1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: All right, second hour of Clay and Buck kicks off 4 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 2: right now. Thanks for being here, everybody. And we mentioned 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: Joe Biden in the last hour his prospects for the 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four elect and will he even be in? 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: But what about Kamala Harris? Her name came up. I'm 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: telling you this is something we're not going to spend 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: too much time on. 10 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: I just wanted to run it by you here, Clay. 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: Whenever I see a Kamala Harris gaff clip, now I 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 2: have to stop and say, hold on a second, is 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: this a new one, because we just had one. We 14 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 2: just had one a few days ago. I can't even 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: remember exactly what it was now. I think it was 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 2: something about culture, right, Yeah. Culture is like when there's 17 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 2: the thing of culture where people are being cultural and 18 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: are really focused on the creation of culture. Here is 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: a Kamala Harris moment for you all on transportation. Professor 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: Harris has some thoughts for you on transportation. 21 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: Here play it. 22 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 3: I again want to thank the Secretary for your work. 23 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 3: This issue of transportation is fundamentally about just making sure 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 3: that people have the ability to get where they need 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 3: to go. 26 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: It's that basic, Yes, Clay, transportation is about making sure 27 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: people can get to the places they need to go. 28 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 2: Now there's a part of me that says, oh my gosh, 29 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 2: this must mean the Democrats are in a panic, because 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,839 Speaker 2: what happens if she has to ascend in one way 31 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: or the other to the presidency. But you know, I 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 2: even heard this from some Democrats. She was a senator 33 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: from California. The system propped her up. She's now the 34 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 2: vice president of the United States. I think that the 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: systems that we have, or rather on the Democrats side, 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: the systems that they have, are working with very different 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 2: sense of how you assess and how you build candidates 38 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 2: that maybe we're used to like. I just feel like 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: they can make anybody vice presidents. 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 4: The bottom line, Yeah, I think this is the problem 41 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: with a uniparty system, and I think on a larger scale, 42 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 4: with how we determine who is in positions of authority 43 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: in some way other than the meritocracy. Because I can't 44 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 4: imagine that there aren't hundreds of people listening to us 45 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 4: in California right now who would be doing a better 46 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 4: job as vice president than Kamala Harris, of all different backgrounds, 47 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 4: of all different individual talents. Kamala Harris is, to me, Buck, 48 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 4: evidence of cosmetics mattering more than anything. I think they 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:58,799 Speaker 4: decided in the grand powerbrokers of the California Democrat Party 50 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 4: this is a good look for us to have a 51 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 4: woman who is half black, half Indian, who is the 52 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 4: right multi ethnic mix to represent California now, and then 53 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 4: they just pushed her through no matter what. And the 54 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 4: thing I wonder on because I haven't met her face 55 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: to face, I do wonder clearly for public events, Buck, 56 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 4: She's a disaster. She's one of the worst communicators that 57 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 4: has ever existed. But you know, sometimes people are really 58 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: good one on one, and they're better one on one 59 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: than they are in a room. And I wonder whether 60 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: that's Kamala Harris because I've never met her one on one. 61 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: Maybe she is very likable and more personable on an 62 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 4: individual level, you know what I'm talking about. Sometimes people 63 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: project better in rooms speaking to a thousand people then 64 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 4: they do one on one speaking to one person, And 65 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 4: the reverse can be true too. A lot of people 66 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 4: are very good in that hey personal interaction basis. But 67 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 4: you put him up on the stage and they shrink, 68 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 4: they get worse. Because I am boggled by how to 69 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 4: explain Kamala Harris otherwise, because I don't even think she's talented. 70 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 4: Even if your criteria was, hey, we need a black 71 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 4: woman who's half Indian, I think there are black women 72 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 4: who are half Indian in California who are way more talented. 73 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: Than she is. 74 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 4: Right, even if all that mattered was the cosmetics, I 75 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 4: don't even think she's talented in that limited group of people. 76 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: I just I keep going coming back to this though. 77 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: When Joe Biden was Biden, when Joe Biden was Obama's 78 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 2: vice president, everybody was like, this guy is a clown? 79 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: How could he have become vice president? And some people 80 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: would say, well, you know, he was a senator for 81 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 2: like forty years before this, so he knows how to 82 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: do something. And with Kamala Harris, it is saying she 83 00:04:58,200 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: wasn't a senator for law, but she was a center 84 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 2: in California, have very big, very. 85 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 4: The attorney general of the state Buck That's the part 86 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 4: that really blows my mind. She was in charge of 87 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 4: all law enforcement in the state of California. 88 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 1: This is what I'm this is what I'm saying. 89 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: I know that right now the numbers all look so 90 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: weak for her, but the system is so powerful that 91 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: they've been able to elevate really sub mediocrities. And Joe 92 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: Biden is a sub mediocrity, and he's sitting in the 93 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 2: oval office as President of United States right now. So 94 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 2: I just feel like we have to remember that anything's possible. 95 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 2: Oh yes, well, let me just say this. There are 96 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 2: a lot of really dumb politicians in both parties. 97 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 4: Yes, And I would say that's the thing because I 98 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 4: came out of sports, I tended to have more faith 99 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 4: in the overall intelligence of politicians when I wasn't focused 100 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: in politics all the time. I think there are a 101 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 4: lot of people that are very poor intellectual representatives of 102 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 4: this country right in both Congress, the Senate and governors. 103 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 4: You know, they say that everybody who's in the Senate 104 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 4: looks around and sees themselves as president because they're surrounded 105 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 4: by the other senators. 106 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: I think that there are. 107 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: So many people that are virtually incompetent that exist in 108 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 4: political office. And I didn't have that opinion before I 109 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 4: actually got involved on the side of politics. I meet 110 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 4: a lot of politicians Democrats and Republicans, And I think 111 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 4: I wouldn't want you to work at my company. 112 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: You are a numb thumb skull. 113 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, never underestimate the ability of people 114 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: to fail to meet expectations and politics over on the view. 115 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 2: You like that, you like that, Thank you. 116 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 1: I already know this speaking of dumb people. 117 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: In another transition, Joy Behar she is picking up on 118 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 2: because this is the most this is going to be. 119 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: The problem that is that is you know, given out. 120 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: This is going to be what is. 121 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: The propaganda that is ladled in mush onto the tables 122 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: and the plates of people who are just low information 123 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 2: voters across the country. You're going to hear Joe Biden's 124 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:08,119 Speaker 2: actually it's not so bad. He's doing a pretty good job. 125 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 2: And in fact, the economy, she says here, economy is 126 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: pretty good. 127 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: Play twenty. 128 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 5: By the way, this whole notion that the economy is 129 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 5: in bad shape, it's not that's not true. And we 130 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: are helping you a headline. But the right wing in 131 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 5: this country doesn't want to help Ukraine. I mean, I've 132 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 5: never seen such a lot because because the last guy 133 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: perception matters with the economy, and like consumer prices have 134 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:33,679 Speaker 5: been up fifteen percent over the last two years. 135 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: If people go to the store in a. 136 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:41,120 Speaker 5: World and they all become inflation in Europe. 137 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 2: So I'm just I know it's dumb, and a lot 138 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 2: of people are saying, oh my god, why'd you put 139 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 2: us through this? 140 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: But this is going to be the line. 141 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:53,679 Speaker 2: An economy that is not awful and in free fall 142 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 2: is good enough under Joe Biden. Because you know what 143 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 2: they're gonna do. They're going to compare it. They're gonna 144 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 2: look at all the numbers playing twenty twenty during COVID. 145 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: They're going to look at the unemployment number, which, based 146 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: on how they gauge unemployments low, it is low right now. 147 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: I'm just I'm telling you this is the way it's 148 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 2: going to go. It's the the winning Republican campaign is 149 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: going to have to do more than say the economy sucks. 150 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 2: They're going to have to say, here's how we're going 151 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 2: to make it better for you in a way that 152 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: is meaningful, that changes things that matters. I haven't I'm 153 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: not really hearing a lot from any of the Republican 154 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 2: can you know. There's a lot of talk about other 155 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: things about what would be done specifically to make the 156 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: economy better. And I think that that's going to have 157 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: to be that's going to be a more of an 158 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 2: uphill climb than a lot of people on the right 159 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: recognize right now, because I mean, look at the twenty 160 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: twenty two elections and not what we thought it would be. 161 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 2: Economy is worse than than it is right now. At 162 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 2: least inflation was worse than it is right now. Where 163 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: felt that way to people? 164 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, look Biden, I mean you know that they're going 165 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 4: to try to sell that Joe Biden economy works because 166 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 4: they're trying to try it out Biden Bidenomics as a 167 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: as a thing, and they've got dumb people like Joy 168 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 4: Behar out there trying to sell this as a good 169 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 4: spot to be in. What I would say in general 170 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 4: is I think you have to lay out. Joy Bayar 171 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 4: has no idea what America is actually like, let me 172 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 4: just start here, and this is one I mean, so 173 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 4: the idea that she is speaking as to what she 174 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: thinks the economy is buck. She lives on the Upper 175 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 4: West Side in Manhattan. She probably hasn't driven a car 176 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 4: in twenty five years. She probably hasn't gone into a 177 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 4: real grocery store and bought things, or gone and taken 178 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: kids to a fast food restaurant or gone to a 179 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 4: traditional movie in twenty some odd years. This is where 180 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 4: we started off the show by people innately feel things, 181 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: and you may not be able you're truck driver right now. 182 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 4: I was talking earlier as we finished first hour, I 183 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: was like, can you imagine if we cut fifty percent 184 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 4: of the federal government. I think the federal government would 185 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 4: still work. If we cut fifty percent of lawyers and 186 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: said hey, you have to go find real jobs, the 187 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker 4: economy would be fine. If we cut fifty percent of 188 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 4: truck driver jobs, the entire economy would stop within a week. 189 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 4: And you guys out there listening to us right now, 190 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 4: driving all over the country with your labor keeping this 191 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: country moving, you know what it feels like. Moms and 192 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 4: dads know what it feels like. I mentioned just going 193 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 4: through a fast food restaurant and when you got three 194 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 4: kids in the back, and you got a couple of 195 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 4: their friends with them or whatever, and you order a 196 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: bunch of hamburgers and French fries, and they say, at 197 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 4: McDonald's that'll be seventy five dollars. 198 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: That's not normal, and. 199 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: I know every single person out there who has that 200 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 4: experience feels that. So the Republican candidate. It's not so 201 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 4: much the numbers. And this is where the This is 202 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 4: where I think the Republicans fail. It's expressing the feeling. 203 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 4: And I understand, like I'm a facts guy, but you 204 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: have to be able to connect the facts to an emotion. 205 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: And I think what Republicans fail. 206 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: At a lot of times is the facts tell a story, 207 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 4: but the emotion is what people connect to. And you 208 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 4: understand what inflation has done if you go through the 209 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 4: drive through for a fast food restaurant or buck. This 210 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 4: is why gas prices crystallize things so much. People have 211 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 4: to go to the gas station every week. That was 212 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 4: making fun of joy Bahar. I bet she hasn't filled 213 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 4: up a gas tank in twenty years. But when you 214 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 4: go there and you watch that number keep ticking up 215 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 4: and it's a lot more than you used to pay, 216 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 4: it gets it makes you really angry. And I don't 217 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,079 Speaker 4: think Republicans do a good job of explaining the nitty 218 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 4: gritty of Hey, this is what happens when you go 219 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 4: to fill up your tank. This is what happens when 220 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: you take your kids to McDonald's. They don't really connect 221 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: and tell that story because nine percent inflation, it is 222 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 4: tough to understand what's a percent, what's nine what's normal? 223 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 4: That doesn't connect. People know the feel of what things cost. 224 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 4: They feel it. We don't do a good job explaining 225 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 4: that feeling. 226 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: They're gonna look at the three point six percent unemployment rate. 227 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I've been saying all this is also 228 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: goes to why I would think that Biden would. 229 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Be on the way out. 230 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 2: Uh if if the economy was in a really obviously 231 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: bad place, right then I think if it muddles along 232 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: like this, and really I think what you see with 233 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 2: the way the Fed changes interest rate, the whole point 234 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 2: of the interest rate changes. Yeah, it's fighting inflation, but 235 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 2: it's like they're extending out a recession. As you know, 236 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 2: they're pulling the band aid off. 237 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: As slowly as possible. 238 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: Because the numbers don't have the same impact when it's 239 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 2: just you know, when it's incremental over a long period 240 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: of time. So the recession that everybody thought was gonna 241 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: hit and hit hard, it's hit, but it's kind of 242 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 2: extended over many, many, many months. So you get you 243 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: used to the inflation, You get used to the high prices, 244 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 2: and you feel like investment being down and other numbers 245 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: that should be higher. Well, it could be worse. This 246 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 2: is gonna be the it could be worse reelection campaign 247 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: when it comes to the economy for Joe Biden and. 248 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: For some people that'll be enough. Yeah, And when we 249 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 4: come back, we should mention this too. The mortgage rates 250 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 4: are out of control now, and that's a story that 251 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 4: I think Republicans have to do a better job of telling, 252 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 4: because I know there's probably millions of you out there 253 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: listening to us right now. If you're fortunate enough to 254 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 4: have a two and a half or three percent interest rate, 255 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 4: you're not going to move for the next ten or 256 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 4: fifteen years, because mortgage rates are now up to basically 257 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:40,959 Speaker 4: seven and a half, advancing on eight percent. 258 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: This is crazy. 259 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 4: I want to talk about it because I think it 260 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 4: goes directly to the way things feel and needing to 261 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 4: connect with things feeling wrong as opposed to just looking 262 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: at the numbers. 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Use that promo code Clay and Buck on 281 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 4: the phone or online to take advantage of these twentieth 282 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 4: anniversary offers. Learn and laugh weekdays with Clay, Travis and 283 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: Buck Sexton. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. 284 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: Friend of mine just texted me, we're talking during the break. No, 285 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 4: I don't hear anybody talking about this out on the 286 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 4: campaign trail, for example, Buck and I think the Bidenomics 287 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 4: arguments are so important, but you have to put it 288 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 4: in context and you have to make people understand it. 289 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: I think this is one of the challenges. I was 290 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 4: making fun of Joy Bahart, but I think a lot 291 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: of these politicians are also isolated from the real world 292 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: in many ways because they're on the campaign trail. They're 293 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 4: not living as many as much of a normal life 294 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 4: as you would anticipate, and so it puts them a 295 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 4: little bit out of touch. A friend just texted me 296 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 4: she's getting a new place eight percent that she's gonna 297 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: have to pay on the mortgage right now eight percent, 298 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 4: And so Buck, if you are fortunate enough, I'm one 299 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 4: of these people. I bought my house a bunch of 300 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 4: years ago. I refined, I've got a two and a 301 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: half percent mortgage rate locked in fifteen years. 302 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: I don't know how many years we have left on 303 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: the house or whatever else. 304 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: I would never pay my mortgage off because I could 305 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: never borrow money again at two and a half percent, 306 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: well a lot of our listeners. I hope you were 307 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 4: fortunate enough to lock in at two and a half 308 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 4: or three percent interest rate. But this is important in 309 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 4: terms of understanding. I know you're buying a place right 310 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: now in Florida, which is Miami, like the hottest, craziest 311 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 4: market anywhere. But the idea was that as interest rates rose, 312 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 4: the prices on houses would come back some somewhat substantially, 313 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 4: was the expectation, and that would make homes more affordable. 314 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: But I think this is important to understand from a 315 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 4: pure pocketbook perspective. What's happened instead is a lot of 316 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: people with two and a half and three percent interest 317 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 4: rates are not putting their house on the market because 318 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 4: they can't afford to sell that house and move into 319 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 4: a new place and pay a seven or eight percent 320 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 4: mortgage rate. And that then factors in in a big way, 321 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 4: Like you're probably seeing this on the trail as you 322 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 4: get out and have been looking for houses. 323 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, Florida. 324 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: And the problem you have in Miami and another place 325 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 2: in Florida is people who may be paid years and 326 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 2: years and years ago two hundred thousand dollars for their 327 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 2: house three hundred thousand dollars for their house. They're getting 328 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 2: offers of eight nine hundred k and you turn on 329 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 2: you say, oh, well, why wouldn't they take that's amazing, right, 330 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:20,879 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, you're gonna get like triple. The 331 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: problem is, where do you go unless you want to 332 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 2: move to a different state, And a lot of people 333 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: are locked in at those much better rates. So to 334 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 2: cash out, even in a market that's tight, people have 335 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 2: to be able to find a place to go to, 336 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 2: which makes the housing market continue to be in some 337 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 2: of these places, you know, very expensive, very difficult to 338 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 2: find the house of your dreams. 339 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: Seven or eight percent. 340 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 4: A lot of people then don't put their houses on 341 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 4: the market, which means the houses that are on the 342 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 4: market are still appreciating, which means we're in a tough spot. 343 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 4: And I know a lot of you out there. You're 344 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 4: having a new kid, maybe you had somebody you want 345 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 4: to downsize, You can't move, You're locked in because of 346 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 4: how rapidly mortgage rates have risen. That's a real issue 347 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 4: going on everywhere. When a service member or first responder 348 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 4: dies or is severely injured in the line of duty, 349 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 4: who is there for them? 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We haven't talked in a 364 00:18:59,160 --> 00:18:59,640 Speaker 4: few days. 365 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 2: I think about RFK Junior, who is still out there 366 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: getting a lot of attention and people are looking into 367 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 2: what is it exactly that the long term play is here? 368 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: RFK Junior occasionally says things Clay where I go, oh man, 369 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,879 Speaker 2: I really like that a lot. So on COVID. Really, 370 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 2: that's where he that's where he gets me when he 371 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 2: talks about the COVID stuff. We've got to get him 372 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 2: back on and we've been in touch with his team. 373 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 2: He is running around, he's been a little busy. We'll 374 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:35,479 Speaker 2: get him on at some point, hopefully soon, to answer 375 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: other policy questions. I mean, basically, he's running as a Democrat, 376 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: so I assume he disagrees with Republicans on most things 377 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 2: that aren't COVID related, although he did sound pretty reasonable 378 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 2: recently on the border. But here he is again talking 379 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 2: about COVID and bad policy, and he's even said that 380 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 2: he would be willing if you were president, to prosecute 381 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: Fauci if malfeasance was first the Mouthfeasans was uncovered Play nine. 382 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 6: Do I think that he committed crimes. I think he 383 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 6: caused a lot of injury. I think that he particularly 384 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 6: by withholding early treatment from Americans. You know, we were 385 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 6: racked up the highest descount in the world. We only 386 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 6: have four point of the club's population, but we had 387 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 6: sixteen percent of the COVID deaths in this country, and 388 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 6: that is that's was from bad policy. So there are 389 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,360 Speaker 6: many many things that we did wrong in this country, 390 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 6: and and some of those were I would say knowing 391 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 6: knowingly at some of the things that were done by 392 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 6: public health officials at that time, that they knew that 393 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 6: they would be harmful. 394 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: Knowingly harmful, I think that what you could put in 395 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: that category. One thing he leaves out is that the US, 396 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 2: we know that weight was the prime mar comorbidity after age. 397 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 2: That remained true even after all the data, everything's been 398 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,919 Speaker 2: looked at. So the US was in a worse position 399 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 2: that way than a lot of other countries, though though 400 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 2: not all countries. There are some Western European countries, for example, 401 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: that are very pretty close to similar average BMI rates. 402 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: But Clay, when you look at the intentionally bad things 403 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 2: that were done, Lockdown's very high on that list. The 404 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 2: masking policy, which was always absurd, moronic, and people who 405 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 2: believed in it should be embarrassed, people who enforced it 406 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 2: should be you know, should feel awful about themselves. And 407 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 2: also I would say the suppression of herd immunity as 408 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 2: a concept in medicine, which was one of the It's 409 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 2: not a lie that gets spoken about as much, but 410 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 2: it is one of the biggest lies of all. When 411 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 2: they acted like, if you'd already had COVID, that shouldn't 412 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: really make any difference in how you go about your 413 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 2: day to day life. 414 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: What kind of risky art of people that was insane. 415 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 4: Imagine how much different things would be if we had 416 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 4: had the right leadership at the time and they had 417 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 4: come out and said, hey, the number one thing you 418 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 4: can do on an individual basis to combat COVID is 419 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 4: exercised as much as you can and lose as much 420 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 4: weight as you can. Because that was the truth, right. 421 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:21,640 Speaker 4: You can't control your age. It's not like if you're 422 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 4: seventy eight suddenly you can say, okay, well I'm going 423 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 4: to be sixty eight instead. But if you weighed two 424 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 4: hundred and ninety pounds, you could say, Okay, I'm going 425 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 4: to try to get down to two fifty. I'm going 426 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: to exercise instead. We told people to do the exact 427 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 4: opposite buck. We told them to go to their rooms, 428 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 4: go to their homes and don't interact at all, sit 429 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 4: on the couch and watch Netflix. And that to me, 430 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 4: leaving aside what I think is the biggest part of 431 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 4: this public policy health failure, which is shutting down schools. 432 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 4: I'm sure yesterday even the New York Times had a 433 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 4: front page news story where it said, Hey, that whole 434 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 4: pandemic learning gap, it's not getting erased, actually growing more substantial. 435 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: And this Democrat party, which claims to care about equity, 436 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 4: actually created the least equitable outcomes in any of our 437 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 4: lives by keeping predominantly black and brown students out of 438 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 4: school the most, further creating gaps between them and white 439 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 4: and Asian students who were more likely to be in school. 440 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: But Buck one thing, I wonder when every time I 441 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 4: hear r f K JR, I would vote for RFK junior. Right, 442 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: people out there say, oh my god, how I would consider, Like, 443 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 4: if you gave me Mit Romney or RFK junior, I 444 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 4: would rather vote for RFK Junior than Met Romney's. 445 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Now that's a tough one. 446 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 4: That's okay. I'm just I'm just saying I. 447 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: Get it. 448 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 4: But he was the nominee not very long ago. I 449 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 4: know and so and so or Paul Ryan. You told me, hey, 450 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 4: you can get RFK junior or Paul Ryan. He was 451 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,880 Speaker 4: the friggin you know, uh, the Speaker of the House. 452 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 4: I would vote RFK Junior. So what I'm saying about 453 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: that you would. 454 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 1: Vote for RFK You're over Paul Ryan. 455 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:07,440 Speaker 2: I would, man. I mean again, I have to hear. 456 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: I have to hear what RFK Junior thinks, because I 457 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 2: think that Paul Ryan is a Republican. 458 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: Is he signed in? Who's established? Yeah? Sure, he has 459 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: no spine. 460 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 4: I want spine over because you're gonna make whatever comments 461 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 4: you're gonna make out there on the campaign trail. I 462 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 4: want somebody that actually has a spine stand up for something, 463 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 4: and I think RFK Junior does. 464 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: So. 465 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 4: My point on this, Buck is, I bet there are 466 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 4: a lot of people out there listening to us in 467 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 4: New Hampshire right now, and I haven't heard anybody discuss this. 468 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: In February. 469 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 4: I think RFK Junior is going to win New Hampshire 470 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 4: for Democrats, partly because independence can go vote. Everybody forgets. 471 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 4: In twenty sixteen, when Trump won New Hampshire, a lot 472 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 4: of people were deciding buck between Trump or Bernie Sanders. 473 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 4: Especially in New Hampshire. There are a lot of people 474 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 4: that just wanted a disruptive candidate. I think in twenty 475 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 4: twenty four, what people want the most is a candidate 476 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 4: that's going to be honest with them. 477 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: I think that more than anything else. 478 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 4: And there are lots of things r Ifk Junior is 479 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 4: saying that I disagree with, But the single thing that 480 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 4: I want the most from a politician in twenty twenty 481 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: four personally is honesty on COVID and a reckoning for 482 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 4: everything that we've gotten wrong on censorship and the First 483 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 4: Amendment and everything surrounding COVID. 484 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: RFK Junior is right on that. 485 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 4: I think Paul Ryan would come out and say, hey, 486 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 4: I think you guys need. 487 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: To go get your boosters. 488 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 4: I think he's a stooge in that way for big 489 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: corporate governance. 490 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 2: Do you think if you had a choice between Andrew 491 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 2: Taate or Mitt Romney or Paul Ryan, would you go 492 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 2: Andrew Tates? I would vote Andrew Tait over vote those guys. 493 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 2: Go Andrew Taate. So here he is Tucker, who is 494 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: doing his show on Twitter these days. Tucker on Twitter. 495 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 2: He had a lengthy sit down with Andrew Tait, oh 496 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 2: over two hours. 497 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Here is what now? Now? Tate? 498 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 2: Just evern's up to speed on this We've talked about 499 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 2: him before on the show. Yes he is controversial. Yes 500 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 2: he says things that we would not agree with or 501 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 2: you know whatever, but he also says some things that 502 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 2: I think are important for people to hear. There's a 503 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: reason he's the most was the most googled man, I 504 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: think on the planet for a few months last year. 505 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: That was at least the story we heard. 506 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: Clay has said many times that his sons and people, 507 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 2: young boys in their teenage years love Andrew Tait. Now 508 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: he is under house arrest in Romania for human alleged 509 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 2: human trafficking. When he discusses the charges, they do sound 510 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 2: very flimsy. The whole thing sounds very strange. He's not 511 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 2: accused of using force on anybody. He's not accused of 512 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,639 Speaker 2: threatening force against anybody. But anyway, but this is now. 513 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: We haven't actually seen the Romanian prosecution present its case, 514 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: so we'll see. But he talked to Tucker, but this 515 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: is about COVID. Actually, here's what he said about are 516 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: a lesson that we should take from the COVID reality 517 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 2: play ten. 518 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 7: It was interesting for me because and I want to 519 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 7: be an optimist, but I lost so much faith in 520 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 7: humanity during COVID. I really if you would have told 521 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 7: me how COVID would have gone down before COVID, I'd say, no, way, 522 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 7: We're not that bad, you know, like I thought, the 523 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 7: people aren't that dumb. But when I experienced COVID, it's 524 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 7: actually scary. You see how the Nazis managed to do 525 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 7: what they did. You see how they managed to put 526 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 7: people in concentration camps. 527 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 4: You see it. 528 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: Now. I mean, you know the last part. 529 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 2: Obviously he's getting to an extreme, but just the notion 530 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 2: of a disappointment in humanity with how there was a 531 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: general reaction to COVID. I felt that very acutely as well. 532 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: I felt it very much about New York City, about 533 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 2: my fellow New Yorkers at the time, not all of them, obviously, 534 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 2: not the people who were listening to me on radio. 535 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 2: They were listening to me because I was speaking the 536 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: truth about how insane New York had gone. 537 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 4: If here's a good question for you, Buck, if COVID 538 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,199 Speaker 4: didn't happen, would you be speaking to me from Miami 539 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 4: right now? Nope, Nope that I mean, it changed so 540 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 4: much for so many people. 541 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 2: I think because there was also a sense of not 542 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 2: just I don't want to be around for the next 543 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 2: time they go insane. But there was a sense of, 544 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 2: if I don't do something about this and take my 545 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 2: tax dollars away from some of these places, am I 546 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 2: really going to be able to just keep complaining about this? 547 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: Right? 548 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 2: And I think a lot of Californians had felt that way, 549 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 2: a lot of New Yorkers have felt that way, and 550 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: it's something that we're still dealing with, and I don't 551 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: think we've dealt with it very effectively at all. I 552 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: think the fact that there hasn't been more of a 553 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: willingness to have some kind of a you know, truth commission. 554 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: I don't know what you would ely call it about 555 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 2: everything that happened there, but they made a lot of 556 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: people come plicit in it. And I think that when 557 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 2: RFK Junior, just to bring it full circle, when he 558 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: says he'd be willing to look at crimes that were 559 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 2: committed against people, that should be the that should be 560 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 2: the mentality. It should be that we have not gone 561 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 2: past this, the statute has not run. Let's lock some 562 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: people up, over locking millions of people up based on lunacy. 563 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: I one hundred percent agree with all that Buck and 564 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 2: that's why do you feel like Mitt Romney would say that. 565 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: Do you feel like Paul Ryan would say that associated 566 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 2: with COVID. 567 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: Look, I'm not sitting there, you know. 568 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 4: I think that there are tons of people listening to 569 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 4: us right now that agreed with everything you say. And 570 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 4: also we're going to agree with everything I say right here, 571 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 4: which is if you got the biggest issue in any 572 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 4: of our lives wrong, COVID was the ultimate test for 573 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 4: government in our lives. Some of you lived through Vietnam. 574 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 4: I did not, but the legacy of Vietnam lingered for 575 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 4: a generation. People didn't trust their government. They were lied 576 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 4: to for Vietnam. This is our generation's Vietnam. And I 577 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 4: feel like there are tons of people all over the 578 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 4: country around our age buck listening and some older and 579 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 4: some younger that want there to be a reckoning so 580 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 4: desperately for the lies that we were told. That party 581 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 4: is swept off in many ways. There are lots of 582 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 4: things RFK Junior would say that I would disagree with, 583 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 4: But Mitt Romney wouldn't say what you just said. Paul 584 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 4: Ryan would not say what you just said. There are 585 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 4: a lot of Republicans out there that are just like, well, 586 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 4: we didn't know any better, let's just move on. No, 587 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: when the government fails, and worse than when they fail, 588 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 4: when they lie to all of us and there is 589 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 4: zero accountability. My number one issue as an American citizen 590 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: is I want those people held accountable. And I think 591 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 4: RFK Junior would try to do it. I think a 592 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 4: lot of Republican candidates would. But that's my number one issue. 593 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 4: So I would be willing if you told me, Hey, 594 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 4: Mitt Romney, who's like, you know, pharmaceutical companies are really good. 595 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 4: Paul Ryan, who's gonna sit around and say, you know, 596 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 4: we need to give tax cuts to Johnson and Johnson 597 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 4: Adviser because of what they did to get this COVID 598 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 4: shot ready, And RFK Junior is going to be like, 599 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: f that, we need to hold these guys accountable. 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Encourage you to go download the 625 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio app. Also you can subscribe to Clay and Buck 626 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 4: make sure you don't miss a moment just as a preview. 627 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 4: At some point in the third hour, Kamala Harris decided 628 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 4: that she needed to describe AI, and she began by 629 00:32:55,120 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 4: defining what AI stands for. She really does. I mean 630 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 4: sometimes I believe the way you talk to your audience 631 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,640 Speaker 4: tells when you're a politician, us way more about you 632 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 4: than it does them. Right, she is convinced that America 633 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,959 Speaker 4: is filled with the dumbest people on the planet because 634 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 4: it's not only that she is not a very good 635 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 4: communicator herself, it's that she begins with the proposition of 636 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 4: I am talking to a not particularly astute kindergartener. She 637 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 4: talks to the entire American public like she is a 638 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 4: kindergarten teacher and not even a kindergarten teacher for kids 639 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 4: that are capable of learning, like for kindergarten kids that 640 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 4: need extensive help with basic communication skills. And ultimately that's 641 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 4: telling on her way more. I just anyway, we're gonna 642 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 4: play that for you, Buck, I were talking about RFK 643 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 4: junior in the crazy Did you see what they are now? 644 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 4: Transactivists have a new name for the vagina. I was 645 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 4: penises and women have vaginas, as we memorably learned in kindergarten. 646 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 4: Cop you were talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger earlier, the new 647 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 4: documentary on Netflix. They are trying to introduce a new 648 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 4: name in the trans community for the vagina. Do you 649 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 4: know you have any clue? I tell I told you that. 650 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: You told me, and I legitimately thought that you were 651 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 2: making it up for a second and just seeing if 652 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 2: I would go for it, because it really does seem 653 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 2: more and more like the transactivist community is just trying 654 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 2: to see how far they can push the insanity. 655 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 1: It's never enough, there's no end to it. 656 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 4: Well, it's they're already talking about men who menstru weight 657 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 4: and men that just chest feeding now instead of breastfeeding. 658 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: I've come across this like looking up you know, basic 659 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 4: medical stuff, you know, and you're like, oh, like you know, 660 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 4: I have like a ringing in my ear and you 661 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: google something, and I've come across now on some of 662 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,200 Speaker 4: the big medical sides they'll refer to, you know, oh, 663 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 4: you should be aware if you're if you're a person 664 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 4: who gets a period of the and it takes you 665 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 4: a moment to processes. 666 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 2: You go, oh, be aware of the following. If you're 667 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: a woman, Yeah, they don't want to right women anymore. 668 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not pregnant woman anymore, it's pregnant person. So 669 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 4: the new and I can't make this up, the new 670 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,800 Speaker 4: word for vagina that the Left is trying to bring 671 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 4: to the American public bonus hole. They are, I swear 672 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 4: to you this is true. They are now trying to 673 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 4: refer to the vagina as a bonus hole, presumably because 674 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 4: everyone has the other hole women. Buck don't have a vagina, 675 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 4: they have a bonus hole. 676 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: I just I just I can't And I know all 677 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: of you out there are like this, what what in 678 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: the world is going on? A bonus hole? Good luck 679 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 1: with that? 680 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 4: And if you're if you're, if you're going home with 681 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 4: the wife hoping. 682 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,439 Speaker 1: To get lucky the bonus hole. 683 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 2: Buck, I'm gonna let you take this one out to 684 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: the end here, Clay, You're you're, you're, you're on your own, buddy. 685 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 4: I don't think I don't think that's gonna aid in 686 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 4: your romantic aspirations for the evening. I just I you 687 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 4: you hear some of this stuff Buck and I just 688 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 4: I can't help but just laugh. I mean, I I 689 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: shared this story online because I wanted to see the comments, 690 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,720 Speaker 4: and they're amazing, But what are they doing. 691 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 1: They're they're degrading your ability. 692 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,360 Speaker 2: They're degrading the ability of people to think and speak 693 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 2: the truth about anything