1 00:00:05,046 --> 00:00:08,046 Speaker 1: A Huddle is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:08,086 --> 00:00:20,006 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. Well well, well, welcome to everybody to the 3 00:00:20,166 --> 00:00:22,646 Speaker 1: l Huddle podcast. I'm being a cost of release with 4 00:00:22,886 --> 00:00:26,886 Speaker 1: Will Selva. Will. This is that time of year where 5 00:00:26,886 --> 00:00:32,006 Speaker 1: I'm like, don't destoy what's happening? Right, because everybody assumes 6 00:00:32,086 --> 00:00:34,566 Speaker 1: that after Super Bowl? How many times do you get 7 00:00:34,566 --> 00:00:37,206 Speaker 1: the question, oh, you got to take some Tino off? Lol? 8 00:00:37,526 --> 00:00:41,166 Speaker 1: Yeah all the time. That's our case. Nope, not the case. 9 00:00:41,446 --> 00:00:45,006 Speaker 1: I wish we can all take a darkness retreat, which, 10 00:00:45,006 --> 00:00:46,846 Speaker 1: by the way, I was it sounds great, doesn't it 11 00:00:46,886 --> 00:00:50,846 Speaker 1: at this point like it does. But you know how skeptical, 12 00:00:51,406 --> 00:00:54,086 Speaker 1: you know how skeptical our families would be if I 13 00:00:54,126 --> 00:01:03,886 Speaker 1: said that I was doing Oh REDI guess guess Rogers. 14 00:01:04,286 --> 00:01:06,446 Speaker 1: My mom is taking the first flight out if I 15 00:01:06,526 --> 00:01:11,166 Speaker 1: tell her I'm going through a darkness room. No, yeah, 16 00:01:12,486 --> 00:01:14,726 Speaker 1: I told you. It's like, I don't think that's something. 17 00:01:14,806 --> 00:01:18,806 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if that's take a 18 00:01:18,886 --> 00:01:20,886 Speaker 1: darkness retreat, but you won't go to mass on Sunday. 19 00:01:20,926 --> 00:01:24,886 Speaker 1: That's what she's gonna tell me. Exactly exactly there is 20 00:01:25,086 --> 00:01:29,806 Speaker 1: there is a guilt vice gript that is consistently honest. 21 00:01:30,286 --> 00:01:35,966 Speaker 1: And when when Aaron Rodgers was being interviewed by this podcaster, 22 00:01:36,766 --> 00:01:44,006 Speaker 1: he did not have shoes or socks on, and he does, 23 00:01:44,126 --> 00:01:47,246 Speaker 1: he does, but that would be my mom would be 24 00:01:47,326 --> 00:01:54,326 Speaker 1: on me all the time the scal so you know 25 00:01:54,686 --> 00:01:57,246 Speaker 1: you're gonna get sick, you know what. The popular phrase 26 00:01:57,326 --> 00:02:03,606 Speaker 1: for that is in Miami, which translates to dirty feet. 27 00:02:04,846 --> 00:02:08,206 Speaker 1: Can't be at Okay, get it together. But that's a 28 00:02:08,206 --> 00:02:12,246 Speaker 1: whole other conversation for another day, because along the same 29 00:02:12,286 --> 00:02:14,646 Speaker 1: lines of this quote unquote no off season, we were 30 00:02:14,886 --> 00:02:19,246 Speaker 1: right into the combine, which I just came back from Indianapolis. 31 00:02:19,286 --> 00:02:21,446 Speaker 1: It's a scene already in the very best way. It's 32 00:02:21,446 --> 00:02:25,086 Speaker 1: like a reunion right of all of everybody across the NFL. 33 00:02:25,646 --> 00:02:28,206 Speaker 1: At twenty four hours there can confirm that's probably the 34 00:02:28,246 --> 00:02:30,686 Speaker 1: perfect amount of time to be there, unless you're a 35 00:02:30,726 --> 00:02:34,606 Speaker 1: prospect getting ready to do drills. So we will have 36 00:02:34,686 --> 00:02:36,646 Speaker 1: Robert Turbin coming up. He is there as well. He 37 00:02:36,766 --> 00:02:39,526 Speaker 1: is one of the coaches for the combine. He's going 38 00:02:39,606 --> 00:02:42,046 Speaker 1: to be mentoring the running backs. Of course, we got 39 00:02:42,046 --> 00:02:45,326 Speaker 1: a little quarterback carousel. But before we get into that, 40 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:55,046 Speaker 1: let's get into okay, so in Indianapolis was also one 41 00:02:55,286 --> 00:02:57,886 Speaker 1: Derek Carr who was meeting with the Carolina Panthers. I 42 00:02:57,926 --> 00:03:00,686 Speaker 1: call that efficiency, like if the teams are already there, yeah, 43 00:03:00,726 --> 00:03:04,766 Speaker 1: just pop on in. We're already doing interviews as well 44 00:03:04,966 --> 00:03:07,406 Speaker 1: doing it. But when asked about the meeting, this is 45 00:03:07,446 --> 00:03:10,766 Speaker 1: what head coach Frank Reich had to see, A good 46 00:03:10,766 --> 00:03:13,766 Speaker 1: meeting with Derek. Really have a lot of respect for 47 00:03:13,846 --> 00:03:16,966 Speaker 1: him as what he's accomplished in his career, the kind 48 00:03:17,006 --> 00:03:21,526 Speaker 1: of player, is the kind of person he is, you know, 49 00:03:21,566 --> 00:03:23,486 Speaker 1: just see what is this the right fit? Is this 50 00:03:23,566 --> 00:03:25,966 Speaker 1: an answer? And I think you know part of that is, yeah, 51 00:03:25,966 --> 00:03:28,206 Speaker 1: this is a good option, but we have to look 52 00:03:28,206 --> 00:03:30,606 Speaker 1: it through. We're looking at all options. This is a 53 00:03:30,606 --> 00:03:32,886 Speaker 1: time of year that we do that. We were excited 54 00:03:32,886 --> 00:03:34,926 Speaker 1: about that meeting and it was a good meeting, and 55 00:03:35,406 --> 00:03:37,126 Speaker 1: you know, we'll take it day by day. I mean, 56 00:03:37,166 --> 00:03:39,726 Speaker 1: of course, standard coach answer. I would say. The other 57 00:03:39,806 --> 00:03:42,006 Speaker 1: layer to that wrinkle is that Derek car is in 58 00:03:42,006 --> 00:03:44,286 Speaker 1: a position here where he does hold a lot of 59 00:03:44,286 --> 00:03:47,846 Speaker 1: the control about his future. I love that for him. 60 00:03:48,006 --> 00:03:52,406 Speaker 1: Do you think though that Carolina could be an landing spot? Well, 61 00:03:52,446 --> 00:03:56,926 Speaker 1: I feel like this was the NFL's version of speed dating, 62 00:03:57,246 --> 00:04:00,806 Speaker 1: because he's going from room to room or to coach 63 00:04:00,886 --> 00:04:04,926 Speaker 1: to coach and GM to GM talking to them. The 64 00:04:05,366 --> 00:04:09,166 Speaker 1: Panthers know they have to get the quarterback situation right. 65 00:04:09,726 --> 00:04:13,526 Speaker 1: They can't just put a temporary solution on that. They've 66 00:04:13,566 --> 00:04:18,846 Speaker 1: gone through different solutions that they thought would work. Baker Mayfield, 67 00:04:19,366 --> 00:04:24,526 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold did show some promise, but it's clear they 68 00:04:24,766 --> 00:04:28,326 Speaker 1: are going to try to get this right whether Derek 69 00:04:28,366 --> 00:04:30,286 Speaker 1: Carr goes there. I'll be honest with you, I think 70 00:04:30,326 --> 00:04:33,526 Speaker 1: this all comes down to what Aaron Rodgers is going 71 00:04:33,606 --> 00:04:38,166 Speaker 1: to do. While I think that Derek Carr has a 72 00:04:38,166 --> 00:04:40,526 Speaker 1: lot of say, I think he has a lot to say, 73 00:04:40,526 --> 00:04:43,206 Speaker 1: but not the most say. I think that is Aaron Rodgers. 74 00:04:43,486 --> 00:04:46,326 Speaker 1: He says he's going to come up with a decision soon, 75 00:04:46,886 --> 00:04:51,606 Speaker 1: and I think once that domino finally falls, that's when 76 00:04:51,646 --> 00:04:55,206 Speaker 1: we'll see. Because I could see Derek Carr with the Jets. 77 00:04:55,566 --> 00:04:59,246 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas was extremely impressed with Carr in his meetings 78 00:04:59,246 --> 00:05:02,326 Speaker 1: with him, and of course he met with the Saints 79 00:05:02,646 --> 00:05:06,326 Speaker 1: twice as well. So he's got suitors, he's got potential 80 00:05:06,406 --> 00:05:09,286 Speaker 1: landing spots. But I think it all comes down to 81 00:05:09,486 --> 00:05:12,406 Speaker 1: Rogers and how he's feeling now that he's had his 82 00:05:12,526 --> 00:05:16,246 Speaker 1: darkness retreat. Oh my god, once again, this man is 83 00:05:16,766 --> 00:05:20,046 Speaker 1: the main headline going into a free agency and just 84 00:05:20,086 --> 00:05:23,166 Speaker 1: like the craziness that goes into the offseason, get it together, 85 00:05:23,446 --> 00:05:25,566 Speaker 1: let us know what's going on. Please, you would think 86 00:05:25,566 --> 00:05:28,566 Speaker 1: out of the darkness some clarity by now, But no, no, 87 00:05:28,606 --> 00:05:31,526 Speaker 1: there isn't now another quarterback Lamar Jackson. He has yet 88 00:05:31,526 --> 00:05:34,166 Speaker 1: to agree, of course, this is the debacle that never 89 00:05:34,286 --> 00:05:36,406 Speaker 1: ends to a long term deal with the Ravens. Now. 90 00:05:36,446 --> 00:05:39,766 Speaker 1: When asked about Lamar and the developments on his signing, 91 00:05:39,886 --> 00:05:43,566 Speaker 1: this is what John Harbaugh had to say. I feel 92 00:05:43,606 --> 00:05:47,166 Speaker 1: like Lamar's doing really well. It's it's just what it is. 93 00:05:47,206 --> 00:05:48,726 Speaker 1: Part of the business, you know. It's what you expect 94 00:05:48,726 --> 00:05:51,006 Speaker 1: when you have a great quarterback, when you make a 95 00:05:51,046 --> 00:05:53,126 Speaker 1: great decision in the draft, you know. And I think 96 00:05:53,126 --> 00:05:55,286 Speaker 1: we I think Lamar has done a great job in 97 00:05:55,366 --> 00:05:57,966 Speaker 1: terms of developing as a quarterback and winning football games 98 00:05:57,966 --> 00:05:59,926 Speaker 1: and competing and doing all the things that he does. 99 00:06:00,566 --> 00:06:02,366 Speaker 1: I feel like we've done a great job in terms 100 00:06:02,406 --> 00:06:05,246 Speaker 1: of bringing out the best in Lamar over the years. 101 00:06:05,286 --> 00:06:07,166 Speaker 1: And uh, and it's just evident the way he plays, 102 00:06:07,246 --> 00:06:09,646 Speaker 1: you know, And so he's my quarterback, he's my guy. 103 00:06:09,646 --> 00:06:12,326 Speaker 1: I love him, and uh as a coach, I just 104 00:06:12,366 --> 00:06:14,006 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing it get done. But it's 105 00:06:14,006 --> 00:06:16,526 Speaker 1: not easy, you know, It's never easy. It's the business 106 00:06:16,526 --> 00:06:19,686 Speaker 1: part of it. So um, but I'm really hopeful and excited, 107 00:06:19,966 --> 00:06:22,446 Speaker 1: fervently hopeful, and I can't wait for it to get 108 00:06:22,446 --> 00:06:25,486 Speaker 1: down there yet. Lamar Jackson joining us now via what 109 00:06:25,566 --> 00:06:30,246 Speaker 1: are these called funko pops? Funkos? Yes with us, we 110 00:06:30,406 --> 00:06:35,966 Speaker 1: ain't for you, Lamar. Look, we know the man represents himself, right, Yeah, 111 00:06:36,006 --> 00:06:39,446 Speaker 1: these are the types of situation. There's complications that right 112 00:06:39,526 --> 00:06:41,446 Speaker 1: where I wish that like he didn't have to do 113 00:06:41,446 --> 00:06:43,726 Speaker 1: this fight right like that there was somebody else in 114 00:06:43,726 --> 00:06:46,886 Speaker 1: the room on his behalf, pounding the table, getting into 115 00:06:46,926 --> 00:06:49,246 Speaker 1: the nitty gritty the business side of it. That can 116 00:06:49,286 --> 00:06:51,846 Speaker 1: get real murky sometimes, like that's just the reality of 117 00:06:51,886 --> 00:06:55,686 Speaker 1: these contract negotiations. But um, I also understand that he 118 00:06:56,006 --> 00:06:58,366 Speaker 1: feels more than capable and wants full of control of this. 119 00:06:58,486 --> 00:07:00,486 Speaker 1: So there's a lot to be said about what's going 120 00:07:00,486 --> 00:07:02,046 Speaker 1: on there. But how long do you think it's going 121 00:07:02,086 --> 00:07:03,926 Speaker 1: to take before this is all resolved? I mean, I 122 00:07:03,926 --> 00:07:06,606 Speaker 1: feel like we've been waiting for this for several seasons 123 00:07:06,646 --> 00:07:11,046 Speaker 1: now because we have It's tough to tell with the timeline, 124 00:07:11,126 --> 00:07:13,526 Speaker 1: but I do have to think that they are going 125 00:07:13,606 --> 00:07:17,806 Speaker 1: to have the franchise tag in mind, whether that's the 126 00:07:18,446 --> 00:07:22,806 Speaker 1: non exclusive one or exclusive one. What's happened with Lamar 127 00:07:22,886 --> 00:07:26,286 Speaker 1: Jackson situation, because he does represent himself at least in 128 00:07:26,326 --> 00:07:29,086 Speaker 1: my opinion, is that he's lost some leverage. He came 129 00:07:29,126 --> 00:07:33,526 Speaker 1: back to play start off, we thought, Wow, he was unbelievable, 130 00:07:33,566 --> 00:07:35,926 Speaker 1: playing like how we've been accustomed to seeing him. But 131 00:07:35,966 --> 00:07:40,126 Speaker 1: then he gets hurt. So that's and the salary that 132 00:07:40,166 --> 00:07:44,726 Speaker 1: he was making was definitely not equal to the talent 133 00:07:45,006 --> 00:07:48,286 Speaker 1: that he brings onto the field. Now, to your point, 134 00:07:48,566 --> 00:07:51,326 Speaker 1: like Eric da Costa and the Ravens, they have done 135 00:07:51,486 --> 00:07:55,726 Speaker 1: several contracts before, they have experience, they've been They've had 136 00:07:55,726 --> 00:07:58,846 Speaker 1: experience with say Roquan Smith, who also represents himself. But 137 00:07:58,926 --> 00:08:02,526 Speaker 1: with the leverage issue with Lamar Jackson. If you take 138 00:08:02,606 --> 00:08:07,206 Speaker 1: the example of Kirk Cousins, he had two franchise tags 139 00:08:07,566 --> 00:08:10,926 Speaker 1: and he still held all the leverage, right, and then 140 00:08:11,286 --> 00:08:16,726 Speaker 1: you go to um Deshaun Watson in Houston, the text 141 00:08:16,726 --> 00:08:19,846 Speaker 1: and said, hey, you know what, Deshaun, you do your thing. Okay, 142 00:08:19,966 --> 00:08:22,086 Speaker 1: you come back with the deal and then we'll figure 143 00:08:22,126 --> 00:08:26,766 Speaker 1: things out. And he had four teams bidding on his services, 144 00:08:27,166 --> 00:08:30,126 Speaker 1: and that contract I think is the hold up because 145 00:08:30,166 --> 00:08:33,006 Speaker 1: of the two hundred and thirty million guaranteed that the 146 00:08:33,166 --> 00:08:37,006 Speaker 1: Ravens don't feel comfortable giving to him. But they have 147 00:08:37,126 --> 00:08:39,286 Speaker 1: to be careful because they don't want to insult him 148 00:08:39,686 --> 00:08:43,446 Speaker 1: with the offer because he is representing himself. So this 149 00:08:43,526 --> 00:08:46,206 Speaker 1: is where it gets a little messy. And also m J. 150 00:08:46,286 --> 00:08:49,086 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw on social media what 151 00:08:49,646 --> 00:08:54,526 Speaker 1: Sean Bateman had tweeted out when I deleted Twitter off 152 00:08:54,566 --> 00:09:02,126 Speaker 1: my phone for a week. Did you really So basically, 153 00:09:02,326 --> 00:09:05,646 Speaker 1: Eric da Costa had said that in terms of the 154 00:09:05,686 --> 00:09:08,526 Speaker 1: problems drafting wide receivers, he said, if I had an answer, 155 00:09:08,566 --> 00:09:12,086 Speaker 1: that would probably mean I would have some better receivers. 156 00:09:12,406 --> 00:09:16,686 Speaker 1: We're gonna keep swinging, so Rashad Bateman then responded, how 157 00:09:16,686 --> 00:09:20,166 Speaker 1: about you play to your player's strength and stop pointing 158 00:09:20,246 --> 00:09:23,006 Speaker 1: the finger at us in number eight. Blame the one 159 00:09:23,206 --> 00:09:25,486 Speaker 1: you let do this. We take keep twenty four to 160 00:09:25,566 --> 00:09:28,086 Speaker 1: seven and keep us healthy. Care about us and see 161 00:09:28,126 --> 00:09:31,366 Speaker 1: what happened ain't no compromise though. Tired of y'all line 162 00:09:31,366 --> 00:09:35,286 Speaker 1: and capping on players for no reason. Now, Lamar any 163 00:09:35,326 --> 00:09:40,446 Speaker 1: exclamation points we're in that tweet? Uh, they're actually no ellipsis. 164 00:09:40,486 --> 00:09:45,166 Speaker 1: There's a lot of ellipsis any caps, all caps right 165 00:09:45,206 --> 00:09:51,206 Speaker 1: like us us that's in caps. I knew it, you know, 166 00:09:51,246 --> 00:09:56,246 Speaker 1: because we've said before Lamar Jackson he needs more weapons 167 00:09:56,286 --> 00:10:00,606 Speaker 1: around him too, right, So now Rashad baby, he's getting 168 00:10:00,766 --> 00:10:04,446 Speaker 1: he's getting hot about this as well. And this comes 169 00:10:04,566 --> 00:10:08,006 Speaker 1: during this contract time. So what do you think? It's messy? 170 00:10:09,046 --> 00:10:11,646 Speaker 1: It's messy, and I love this for us, not for them, 171 00:10:12,126 --> 00:10:15,046 Speaker 1: but the fact that they're out. You know, the things 172 00:10:15,046 --> 00:10:18,686 Speaker 1: have changed so much in terms of us knowing the 173 00:10:18,766 --> 00:10:22,246 Speaker 1: reactions from players in real time, because previously all we 174 00:10:22,286 --> 00:10:24,606 Speaker 1: had was like locker room availability and sort of waiting 175 00:10:24,606 --> 00:10:26,246 Speaker 1: to see the reports that came in through there. If 176 00:10:26,246 --> 00:10:28,246 Speaker 1: you catch a guy on a day where he feels 177 00:10:28,286 --> 00:10:30,566 Speaker 1: like popping off and like really saying how he feels 178 00:10:30,646 --> 00:10:34,126 Speaker 1: right now, we know it. Immediately. All they gotta do 179 00:10:34,206 --> 00:10:38,726 Speaker 1: is open their phone and boom, you know exactly what's happening. Man. 180 00:10:39,406 --> 00:10:41,846 Speaker 1: I always go back to thinking about this franchise tag 181 00:10:41,926 --> 00:10:46,366 Speaker 1: situation because ostensibly, if you just look at it, dollar 182 00:10:46,406 --> 00:10:49,966 Speaker 1: signs wise, the exclusive tag would give him forty five mil. 183 00:10:50,326 --> 00:10:54,166 Speaker 1: But that's just for that one year. So what does 184 00:10:54,206 --> 00:10:56,926 Speaker 1: that say, right, Like, what is the investment that you're 185 00:10:56,966 --> 00:10:59,646 Speaker 1: making in this man? Or lack their up, like you 186 00:10:59,726 --> 00:11:01,526 Speaker 1: know this is the guy. Where else are you gonna go? 187 00:11:01,646 --> 00:11:04,086 Speaker 1: You're gonna risk him going to another team after that 188 00:11:04,166 --> 00:11:06,646 Speaker 1: unless you just it's just insane to me. And so 189 00:11:06,966 --> 00:11:10,366 Speaker 1: when you hear coach saying, that's my guy, that's my dude. 190 00:11:10,566 --> 00:11:13,846 Speaker 1: I love Lamar, I've loved everything he's done for this franchise. 191 00:11:14,006 --> 00:11:16,686 Speaker 1: Remember earlier in the season two hundred percent, he's going 192 00:11:16,766 --> 00:11:18,726 Speaker 1: to be our guy next year. Then get it done, 193 00:11:19,486 --> 00:11:22,526 Speaker 1: figure it out, figure it out, and make the investment 194 00:11:22,966 --> 00:11:27,446 Speaker 1: the commitment to him. Enough with this runaround, it's exhausting 195 00:11:27,966 --> 00:11:32,286 Speaker 1: just watching along. I can't imagine Lamar's shoes. Yes, but 196 00:11:32,406 --> 00:11:35,246 Speaker 1: do they dare play hardball with them and say, you 197 00:11:35,286 --> 00:11:38,446 Speaker 1: know what they do the non exclusive, We're gonna do 198 00:11:38,446 --> 00:11:41,806 Speaker 1: the non exclusive and let's see what the market bears. 199 00:11:42,206 --> 00:11:45,206 Speaker 1: You try to figure something out and we'll get two 200 00:11:45,246 --> 00:11:47,766 Speaker 1: first round picks. And somebody has to be saddled with 201 00:11:47,806 --> 00:11:52,366 Speaker 1: paying him over two hundred and thirty million guaranteed. I 202 00:11:52,446 --> 00:11:54,246 Speaker 1: don't like that because it's like, what are you? What 203 00:11:54,286 --> 00:11:56,166 Speaker 1: are you doing here? You can't talk out of both 204 00:11:56,166 --> 00:11:57,886 Speaker 1: sides of your mouth. You can't in one breath say 205 00:11:58,046 --> 00:12:00,286 Speaker 1: this is my guy, we want him here two hundred percent, 206 00:12:00,326 --> 00:12:02,766 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. And then play these little games. 207 00:12:02,886 --> 00:12:05,806 Speaker 1: You know, don't play these guys. I hear there now, 208 00:12:05,846 --> 00:12:07,966 Speaker 1: I don't play these games. But you know what they 209 00:12:08,046 --> 00:12:11,366 Speaker 1: are doing in Indianapolis. They're running a lot of drills 210 00:12:11,926 --> 00:12:16,406 Speaker 1: and we're going to see the top signal callers throw 211 00:12:16,526 --> 00:12:19,726 Speaker 1: at the combine. Bryce Young he will throw at his 212 00:12:19,806 --> 00:12:23,246 Speaker 1: pro day. But we're gonna see guys like Anthony Richardson, 213 00:12:23,326 --> 00:12:26,726 Speaker 1: and we're gonna see Will Levis for example, see what 214 00:12:26,766 --> 00:12:30,206 Speaker 1: they're about CJ. Stroud. So we're gonna be joined by 215 00:12:30,446 --> 00:12:34,686 Speaker 1: former NFL star running back Robert Turban. He's mentoring the 216 00:12:35,046 --> 00:12:38,406 Speaker 1: running backs turbo at a very fast forty time. We'll 217 00:12:38,406 --> 00:12:41,366 Speaker 1: get his takes on the quarterbacks, the running backs, and 218 00:12:41,486 --> 00:12:45,286 Speaker 1: what does he think of the whole Russell Wilson Seahawks. 219 00:12:46,246 --> 00:12:49,046 Speaker 1: Ending there, we get into it with them. Make sure 220 00:12:49,246 --> 00:12:59,006 Speaker 1: to stick around Obviously they get the medical during the week, 221 00:12:59,046 --> 00:13:00,646 Speaker 1: but for us to be able to do these formal 222 00:13:00,686 --> 00:13:03,806 Speaker 1: interviews or informal is to me the biggest part of 223 00:13:03,846 --> 00:13:05,926 Speaker 1: all this. It's not even in the working out portion. 224 00:13:06,246 --> 00:13:08,646 Speaker 1: Like to me, you grate them off the tape right off. 225 00:13:08,806 --> 00:13:11,686 Speaker 1: Somebody out here in pajamas running around forty with no 226 00:13:11,766 --> 00:13:16,326 Speaker 1: defender around or an offender. That is from Lyons head 227 00:13:16,326 --> 00:13:21,486 Speaker 1: coach Dan Campbell. They're talking about the combine. Joining us 228 00:13:21,606 --> 00:13:26,086 Speaker 1: from the combine from Indianapolis is former NFL star running 229 00:13:26,126 --> 00:13:29,926 Speaker 1: back Robert Turbin. Welcome to the L Huddle Podcast. Robert, 230 00:13:31,446 --> 00:13:34,926 Speaker 1: it's an honor. Thanks for having me. Yeah, no, it's 231 00:13:35,086 --> 00:13:37,846 Speaker 1: it's listen. It's a pleasure to talk to you. You 232 00:13:38,006 --> 00:13:41,886 Speaker 1: just heard Dan Campbell's assessment of it. We've heard it 233 00:13:41,926 --> 00:13:45,446 Speaker 1: called the underwear Olympics. What do you think is it 234 00:13:45,526 --> 00:13:49,246 Speaker 1: guys just running around in their pajamas and it's more 235 00:13:49,286 --> 00:13:52,166 Speaker 1: important to just look at the tape. Yeah, I don't 236 00:13:52,166 --> 00:13:54,646 Speaker 1: have any cool nicknames like some of these other guys 237 00:13:54,886 --> 00:13:58,406 Speaker 1: as pertains to the combine. But listen, if I'm if 238 00:13:58,446 --> 00:14:01,326 Speaker 1: I'm being honest, I've been through this process. The forty, 239 00:14:01,406 --> 00:14:04,206 Speaker 1: the bench, the most important part of it is those 240 00:14:04,206 --> 00:14:07,246 Speaker 1: opportunities to meet with the teams, you know, get some 241 00:14:07,286 --> 00:14:10,206 Speaker 1: face time with head coaches and general managers and other 242 00:14:10,686 --> 00:14:12,446 Speaker 1: members of the front office, as long as they take 243 00:14:12,486 --> 00:14:15,366 Speaker 1: it seriously, which I think the league has really kind 244 00:14:15,366 --> 00:14:18,526 Speaker 1: of put a stamp on with these teams because we've 245 00:14:18,566 --> 00:14:22,406 Speaker 1: heard in the past even I got some weird questions. 246 00:14:22,406 --> 00:14:24,966 Speaker 1: We'll leave it at weird, all right, at that, But 247 00:14:25,526 --> 00:14:28,566 Speaker 1: the only field portion. Look, I gotta agree with coach Campbell. 248 00:14:28,966 --> 00:14:31,846 Speaker 1: You'll you'll know a guy when you watch the tape. Now, 249 00:14:31,886 --> 00:14:34,206 Speaker 1: if you do something outlandish and you run a four two, 250 00:14:34,806 --> 00:14:36,926 Speaker 1: that can help your draft stock. But I think that 251 00:14:36,966 --> 00:14:40,806 Speaker 1: you can be almost perfect in every drill that you 252 00:14:40,846 --> 00:14:43,726 Speaker 1: do out here on the field and it won't really 253 00:14:43,766 --> 00:14:47,766 Speaker 1: impact you in the draft as far as dropping or 254 00:14:47,806 --> 00:14:51,846 Speaker 1: if anything, you'll drop more then you'll actually go up 255 00:14:51,926 --> 00:14:53,406 Speaker 1: if you don't run like a four to two or 256 00:14:53,446 --> 00:14:56,526 Speaker 1: four to three. What I learned in the very brief 257 00:14:56,566 --> 00:14:58,966 Speaker 1: twenty four hours that I spent in Indianapolis this week 258 00:15:00,086 --> 00:15:02,206 Speaker 1: is that the day and we knew this, but the 259 00:15:02,326 --> 00:15:04,606 Speaker 1: day for the prospects as well as obviously the sco 260 00:15:05,086 --> 00:15:08,406 Speaker 1: Like the front office folks, it's a long day, And 261 00:15:08,486 --> 00:15:10,406 Speaker 1: it's not just what we see on the field, right, 262 00:15:10,446 --> 00:15:13,486 Speaker 1: it's the whole week. It's the interviews, it's getting prepped 263 00:15:13,526 --> 00:15:15,646 Speaker 1: for this, it's trying to get in some conditioning and 264 00:15:15,686 --> 00:15:18,926 Speaker 1: some practice before you hit Lucas Oil Stadium on your 265 00:15:18,966 --> 00:15:22,846 Speaker 1: day to be out there. What do you remember from 266 00:15:22,886 --> 00:15:25,846 Speaker 1: going through let's call it a car wash, right, going 267 00:15:25,886 --> 00:15:28,166 Speaker 1: through that car wash of the combine and getting ready 268 00:15:28,206 --> 00:15:31,486 Speaker 1: for I mean, these guys take it as the biggest job, interview, 269 00:15:31,526 --> 00:15:34,686 Speaker 1: biggest audition of their lives. Yeah, it was a mental 270 00:15:34,806 --> 00:15:38,126 Speaker 1: challenge because you're you're almost rushing to get everywhere that 271 00:15:38,166 --> 00:15:40,366 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be. First of all, you got to 272 00:15:40,406 --> 00:15:43,366 Speaker 1: figure out where you're supposed to go, get that part 273 00:15:43,886 --> 00:15:46,526 Speaker 1: and how to get there. Then it's like you got 274 00:15:46,526 --> 00:15:48,046 Speaker 1: to hurry up and go because you feel like you're 275 00:15:48,086 --> 00:15:49,726 Speaker 1: late to everything, and then when you get there, you 276 00:15:49,806 --> 00:15:53,686 Speaker 1: end up standing around for fifteen or twenty minutes actually 277 00:15:54,326 --> 00:15:57,526 Speaker 1: get started. Yeah. So I say that because there's there's 278 00:15:57,606 --> 00:16:00,486 Speaker 1: mental fortitude in place for these young guys as they're 279 00:16:00,486 --> 00:16:03,006 Speaker 1: going through this process that they have to overcome in 280 00:16:03,126 --> 00:16:06,606 Speaker 1: order to stay sharp. Yeah, that's a really interesting aspect 281 00:16:06,606 --> 00:16:08,486 Speaker 1: of it. Something we were talking about well, just in 282 00:16:08,566 --> 00:16:10,406 Speaker 1: terms of like the preparation of all these guys and 283 00:16:10,446 --> 00:16:14,166 Speaker 1: how they got there to Indy. Yeah, well, with Robert, 284 00:16:14,526 --> 00:16:17,806 Speaker 1: you know, you're mentoring the running backs. This is the 285 00:16:17,846 --> 00:16:22,246 Speaker 1: first year that you're in this role, and you've got 286 00:16:22,286 --> 00:16:26,246 Speaker 1: this really talented group, a lot of big names. Who 287 00:16:26,286 --> 00:16:30,126 Speaker 1: were the guys that we should be focused on or 288 00:16:30,166 --> 00:16:33,486 Speaker 1: at least keep an eye on. Well, I'm still getting 289 00:16:33,486 --> 00:16:36,126 Speaker 1: to know the guys from the group. But I did 290 00:16:36,286 --> 00:16:39,886 Speaker 1: have an opportunity to speak with Mohammed Ibrahim out of Minnesota. 291 00:16:40,046 --> 00:16:44,046 Speaker 1: Actually met him at the East West Shrine Bowl before 292 00:16:44,046 --> 00:16:47,806 Speaker 1: the combine. We've developed a relationship. Tank Big Bisbee out 293 00:16:47,846 --> 00:16:50,486 Speaker 1: of Auburn is a good back that I would look 294 00:16:50,526 --> 00:16:53,406 Speaker 1: out for. But right now, I'm still looking at the 295 00:16:53,446 --> 00:16:55,966 Speaker 1: guys as a group. I had an opportunity to speak 296 00:16:56,006 --> 00:17:00,246 Speaker 1: with them last night at dinner, and you know, the 297 00:17:00,286 --> 00:17:03,086 Speaker 1: message that I shared with him, you know, with me 298 00:17:03,206 --> 00:17:05,926 Speaker 1: being in this role serving as an mentor is you know, 299 00:17:05,966 --> 00:17:09,966 Speaker 1: obviously I've gone through this process. I spent eight years 300 00:17:09,966 --> 00:17:13,566 Speaker 1: in the league. I've gone through the transition process, and 301 00:17:13,606 --> 00:17:15,246 Speaker 1: so there's a lot of things, there's a lot of 302 00:17:15,286 --> 00:17:16,726 Speaker 1: knowledge that I know that I want to be able 303 00:17:16,766 --> 00:17:18,886 Speaker 1: to share to these guys, and you know, you're gonna 304 00:17:18,926 --> 00:17:22,046 Speaker 1: get tapped on the behind all through the week while 305 00:17:22,046 --> 00:17:24,166 Speaker 1: you're here, and everybody's gonna tell you how great you are. 306 00:17:24,886 --> 00:17:27,966 Speaker 1: But I'm here to give you the real spiel about, 307 00:17:28,006 --> 00:17:29,726 Speaker 1: you know, the NFL and what it's all about and 308 00:17:29,766 --> 00:17:32,086 Speaker 1: what you should expect. But the one nugget that I 309 00:17:32,126 --> 00:17:34,526 Speaker 1: really wanted to give them that was really important was 310 00:17:35,246 --> 00:17:39,726 Speaker 1: you hear, oftentimes really all the time that the NFL 311 00:17:39,846 --> 00:17:42,206 Speaker 1: is a business, and when you're twenty one and twenty two, 312 00:17:42,246 --> 00:17:45,126 Speaker 1: you may not really understand what that is. But what 313 00:17:45,166 --> 00:17:49,726 Speaker 1: I wanted to reiterate was that this is actually a 314 00:17:49,766 --> 00:17:54,006 Speaker 1: relationship business. And what I meant by that is, you know, 315 00:17:54,126 --> 00:17:58,886 Speaker 1: every person that they need that they run into while 316 00:17:58,886 --> 00:18:01,686 Speaker 1: they're here this week at the Combine is really an 317 00:18:01,726 --> 00:18:05,486 Speaker 1: opportunity for them to then build their network for any 318 00:18:05,526 --> 00:18:08,086 Speaker 1: time down the road. And if there's one thing that 319 00:18:08,126 --> 00:18:10,886 Speaker 1: I wanted to get them to understand quickly, it was 320 00:18:10,926 --> 00:18:14,126 Speaker 1: that that's such an important aspect of it, because you 321 00:18:14,166 --> 00:18:17,206 Speaker 1: hit the nail on the head. These are young men, 322 00:18:17,966 --> 00:18:21,086 Speaker 1: most of them within that twenty to twenty two maybe 323 00:18:21,126 --> 00:18:25,246 Speaker 1: twenty three year old range, So their entire lives have 324 00:18:25,326 --> 00:18:29,166 Speaker 1: been very regimented as athletes, right, and now you're getting 325 00:18:29,166 --> 00:18:31,086 Speaker 1: into the point like now you have to even though 326 00:18:31,126 --> 00:18:32,966 Speaker 1: you have an agent and you have you know, people 327 00:18:33,006 --> 00:18:35,406 Speaker 1: sort of guiding you, you have to be the advocate 328 00:18:35,446 --> 00:18:38,886 Speaker 1: for yourself. You are your own brand and that plays 329 00:18:38,966 --> 00:18:41,846 Speaker 1: just as much into it as the skill side of 330 00:18:41,886 --> 00:18:43,886 Speaker 1: it and all of that other stuff. So so how 331 00:18:44,326 --> 00:18:46,366 Speaker 1: do you square that? And what's been the response from 332 00:18:46,406 --> 00:18:49,086 Speaker 1: these guys? And not everybody's gonna get that, right, Like, 333 00:18:49,166 --> 00:18:51,806 Speaker 1: not everybody's really going to take in the message. Yeah, 334 00:18:51,846 --> 00:18:57,006 Speaker 1: everybody gets it, you know, sooner or later or sometimes never. 335 00:18:57,166 --> 00:19:00,366 Speaker 1: I think it's just about being engaged. You know. I 336 00:19:00,366 --> 00:19:03,446 Speaker 1: remember being a young guy and you know, Michael Vick 337 00:19:03,686 --> 00:19:06,366 Speaker 1: went up to speak one time and he talked about 338 00:19:06,366 --> 00:19:09,606 Speaker 1: how uh, you know, careers are short and you know 339 00:19:09,686 --> 00:19:12,086 Speaker 1: most careers are only two and a half years. And 340 00:19:12,526 --> 00:19:15,486 Speaker 1: you know, it was funny because as he was as 341 00:19:15,486 --> 00:19:18,686 Speaker 1: he was speaking, he mentioned that there's a there's a 342 00:19:18,726 --> 00:19:21,966 Speaker 1: good chucky you guys in the audience right now, dig 343 00:19:22,006 --> 00:19:24,726 Speaker 1: into yourself. Well that's not gonna be me, you know, 344 00:19:24,766 --> 00:19:27,926 Speaker 1: I was one of those guys, you know, but it 345 00:19:27,966 --> 00:19:31,086 Speaker 1: but it happens then it ends up actually happening, you know, 346 00:19:31,126 --> 00:19:35,006 Speaker 1: and so um, I think the important thing is, you know, 347 00:19:35,046 --> 00:19:38,086 Speaker 1: how can I connect with these guys? Not about how 348 00:19:38,126 --> 00:19:40,086 Speaker 1: can I connect with these guys? It's about connecting with 349 00:19:40,086 --> 00:19:42,366 Speaker 1: these guys because I know how. It's about connecting with 350 00:19:42,406 --> 00:19:46,246 Speaker 1: these guys on a people level, on a personal level. 351 00:19:46,846 --> 00:19:49,806 Speaker 1: Then you can get them to understand, like, you know, 352 00:19:49,846 --> 00:19:53,086 Speaker 1: how this business really goes. Share some of the things 353 00:19:53,126 --> 00:19:55,726 Speaker 1: that I went through as a player, Share some of 354 00:19:55,726 --> 00:19:59,606 Speaker 1: the things that teammates of mind went through his players, 355 00:20:00,646 --> 00:20:04,886 Speaker 1: and give him, you know, the reality of how the 356 00:20:04,966 --> 00:20:08,406 Speaker 1: league can go and you know, to avoid some of 357 00:20:08,486 --> 00:20:10,246 Speaker 1: the mistakes that I made as a player, and so 358 00:20:10,326 --> 00:20:14,886 Speaker 1: many other guys. Robert, we have been seeing in the 359 00:20:14,926 --> 00:20:19,926 Speaker 1: news what has happened to Georgia's eventsive tackle Jalen Carter, 360 00:20:20,286 --> 00:20:24,246 Speaker 1: dealing with a serious off the field issue, decided to 361 00:20:24,286 --> 00:20:29,566 Speaker 1: return to the combine. For some of these talent evaluators, 362 00:20:29,606 --> 00:20:32,046 Speaker 1: they're throwing up their hands saying, WHOA, we didn't know 363 00:20:32,366 --> 00:20:36,726 Speaker 1: about this other aspect or this situation that's developing in 364 00:20:36,806 --> 00:20:42,086 Speaker 1: his life. How do you reach somebody like him, for example, 365 00:20:42,726 --> 00:20:46,326 Speaker 1: so that way he can be transparent to these talent 366 00:20:46,366 --> 00:20:49,366 Speaker 1: evaluators because as you mentioned, it is also a business 367 00:20:49,646 --> 00:20:53,126 Speaker 1: and he has to sell himself, but there's also something 368 00:20:53,206 --> 00:20:58,606 Speaker 1: that is serious that's happening that has real consequences as well. Yeah, 369 00:20:58,646 --> 00:21:03,326 Speaker 1: you have to learn a compartmentalize real early for Jalen, 370 00:21:03,406 --> 00:21:05,766 Speaker 1: and you know, so for me being in this position, 371 00:21:05,846 --> 00:21:09,126 Speaker 1: it's you know, sharing examples of times or I had 372 00:21:09,126 --> 00:21:12,966 Speaker 1: to compartmentalize in my life and again leaning on some 373 00:21:13,046 --> 00:21:15,606 Speaker 1: of the other stories that I know about or have 374 00:21:15,806 --> 00:21:20,406 Speaker 1: witnessed where they had to compartmentalize as well. Like I give, 375 00:21:20,926 --> 00:21:23,686 Speaker 1: you know, examples of guys like Mars Shawn, you know, 376 00:21:23,686 --> 00:21:26,526 Speaker 1: who went through some things and still went on to 377 00:21:26,606 --> 00:21:29,766 Speaker 1: have a great career, you know, etc. And so it's 378 00:21:29,926 --> 00:21:33,566 Speaker 1: using those examples that guys can then relate to that 379 00:21:33,726 --> 00:21:38,246 Speaker 1: kind of help them, you know, approach their situations, no question. 380 00:21:38,286 --> 00:21:40,046 Speaker 1: And look, I think there's there's something to be said 381 00:21:40,086 --> 00:21:44,686 Speaker 1: about adversity creating developing your character right and how you 382 00:21:44,726 --> 00:21:46,726 Speaker 1: respond to certain things and how you deal with it. 383 00:21:46,726 --> 00:21:49,006 Speaker 1: But there is a lot of pressure whether you have 384 00:21:49,806 --> 00:21:53,166 Speaker 1: off the field stuff going on or not coming into 385 00:21:53,726 --> 00:21:56,366 Speaker 1: combined week. I think one of the big things is 386 00:21:56,406 --> 00:21:58,686 Speaker 1: even though we talk about like the drills right, and 387 00:21:58,726 --> 00:22:00,486 Speaker 1: how much stock there isn't it or not? And that 388 00:22:00,526 --> 00:22:02,206 Speaker 1: depends on the coach and on the front office of 389 00:22:02,206 --> 00:22:04,806 Speaker 1: the team that's evaluating you. But one thing I'm sure 390 00:22:04,966 --> 00:22:08,246 Speaker 1: you'll remember, Rob was getting ready for those drills right, 391 00:22:08,326 --> 00:22:11,526 Speaker 1: and like what that feels like this year I got 392 00:22:11,726 --> 00:22:13,206 Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you all in on a little secret. 393 00:22:13,206 --> 00:22:14,766 Speaker 1: Maybe you've already seen this. If not, I got to 394 00:22:14,766 --> 00:22:18,846 Speaker 1: plug for you, Rob Uma. There is now a whole 395 00:22:18,926 --> 00:22:22,926 Speaker 1: Athlete HQ in Indianapolis for these guys to like prep 396 00:22:23,046 --> 00:22:27,246 Speaker 1: and train and rehab. They get swag from Noble, they 397 00:22:27,246 --> 00:22:31,686 Speaker 1: get like all this treatment. It's very different than the 398 00:22:31,726 --> 00:22:35,126 Speaker 1: combines of the past, and I'm I'm excited for these 399 00:22:35,166 --> 00:22:36,846 Speaker 1: new guys. But I also talked to a bunch of 400 00:22:36,846 --> 00:22:39,086 Speaker 1: folks who where they're like, wait a minute, we didn't 401 00:22:39,086 --> 00:22:40,926 Speaker 1: have any of that. Like these kids are coming in 402 00:22:40,966 --> 00:22:43,406 Speaker 1: here walking into the combine like, oh, I feel a way, 403 00:22:43,486 --> 00:22:45,606 Speaker 1: I feel a little special. And they are. They're treated 404 00:22:45,646 --> 00:22:48,526 Speaker 1: like superstars already in that aspect. I think it's great 405 00:22:48,526 --> 00:22:51,166 Speaker 1: that they get a chance to practice on an actual field, 406 00:22:51,406 --> 00:22:54,566 Speaker 1: actual churf to do the forty. They have weights, all 407 00:22:54,606 --> 00:22:56,326 Speaker 1: of the actual stuff they'll be doing, they'll be using 408 00:22:56,326 --> 00:22:59,006 Speaker 1: in the drills. But it is a very stark difference 409 00:22:59,246 --> 00:23:02,966 Speaker 1: from combines of the past. I guess of the game. 410 00:23:04,806 --> 00:23:07,166 Speaker 1: You got to credit the league, uh you know for 411 00:23:07,726 --> 00:23:10,966 Speaker 1: evolving this way. But how can we put these guys 412 00:23:10,966 --> 00:23:13,526 Speaker 1: in the best position to be the best version of 413 00:23:13,566 --> 00:23:16,566 Speaker 1: themselves when they have to go out and perform, you know. 414 00:23:16,646 --> 00:23:19,366 Speaker 1: So they've done that by providing them more uh you know, 415 00:23:19,406 --> 00:23:22,606 Speaker 1: more things the weight room the field. We didn't have that. 416 00:23:22,766 --> 00:23:24,566 Speaker 1: I mean, we we got all the swag and stuff 417 00:23:24,566 --> 00:23:29,126 Speaker 1: though you know, hey it was not it was nice. Now, 418 00:23:29,166 --> 00:23:32,086 Speaker 1: I don't want to undermine it at all. It's nothing 419 00:23:32,126 --> 00:23:34,846 Speaker 1: like no board though Noble is doing something. You know, 420 00:23:34,966 --> 00:23:37,966 Speaker 1: it's I've never seen anything like that before. Yeah, yeah, 421 00:23:37,966 --> 00:23:39,966 Speaker 1: but you would be warming up in the hallways though, 422 00:23:40,006 --> 00:23:45,726 Speaker 1: of the of the convention stadium, right right, yeah, right, 423 00:23:45,726 --> 00:23:48,326 Speaker 1: you'll be doing your forty starts in the in the 424 00:23:48,366 --> 00:23:51,286 Speaker 1: hallways and and and stuff like that. Really, when when 425 00:23:51,566 --> 00:23:55,566 Speaker 1: during our time in twenty twelve, we just we just 426 00:23:55,606 --> 00:23:57,406 Speaker 1: waited till it was time to get on the field 427 00:23:57,486 --> 00:24:02,286 Speaker 1: to really like have an opportunity to work on our stuff. Um, 428 00:24:02,286 --> 00:24:04,206 Speaker 1: and so a lot different putting these guys in a 429 00:24:04,246 --> 00:24:06,766 Speaker 1: position to be the best version of themselves. I love 430 00:24:06,806 --> 00:24:10,806 Speaker 1: the evolution. How does it compare to like the biggest 431 00:24:10,926 --> 00:24:14,326 Speaker 1: game that you've ever had in your college career. It 432 00:24:14,406 --> 00:24:21,046 Speaker 1: does not compare. It doesn't compare. I mean, it's a 433 00:24:21,046 --> 00:24:23,126 Speaker 1: big deal, don't get me wrong, the scouting combine, it's 434 00:24:23,126 --> 00:24:25,246 Speaker 1: a big deal. You know. I don't want to undermine 435 00:24:25,246 --> 00:24:27,926 Speaker 1: it at all. But it doesn't compare to playing in 436 00:24:27,966 --> 00:24:31,606 Speaker 1: the super Bowl at all. You know. Like as a 437 00:24:31,646 --> 00:24:35,326 Speaker 1: ball player, I felt like I was great on the field. 438 00:24:35,806 --> 00:24:39,206 Speaker 1: I was a horrible drill guy Cones. I hated the 439 00:24:39,246 --> 00:24:45,726 Speaker 1: sight of anything orange because of Cones. I couldn't I 440 00:24:45,726 --> 00:24:49,166 Speaker 1: couldn't get around him. I'd always knock him over, you know. 441 00:24:49,646 --> 00:24:52,046 Speaker 1: But it never looked like that on the field. Some 442 00:24:52,086 --> 00:24:54,846 Speaker 1: guys can really relate to that, you know. So you know, 443 00:24:54,926 --> 00:24:56,726 Speaker 1: you want to see how a guy moves, that's great. 444 00:24:56,766 --> 00:24:58,846 Speaker 1: But the best way to see how a guy moves 445 00:24:59,366 --> 00:25:01,246 Speaker 1: is how he moves against the fenders. And that's why 446 00:25:01,246 --> 00:25:06,246 Speaker 1: I really backward, coach Dan Campbell said from the Lion. Yeah, 447 00:25:06,286 --> 00:25:08,966 Speaker 1: we were, we were saying that the other day. I'm like, 448 00:25:08,966 --> 00:25:11,766 Speaker 1: wait a minute, remember when like a four four or 449 00:25:11,806 --> 00:25:14,926 Speaker 1: a four three with like a rare thing, like one 450 00:25:15,006 --> 00:25:16,646 Speaker 1: maybe two guys would do it. Now, these guys are 451 00:25:16,646 --> 00:25:19,006 Speaker 1: out here running four two s four threes like it's nothing, 452 00:25:19,206 --> 00:25:21,686 Speaker 1: Like it's nothing. Yeah. I run a four four four 453 00:25:21,966 --> 00:25:25,166 Speaker 1: and a four four seven and my two attempts, and 454 00:25:25,286 --> 00:25:28,606 Speaker 1: I got the nickname Turbo, you know, So I had 455 00:25:28,606 --> 00:25:31,046 Speaker 1: to have some kind of speed at some point in 456 00:25:31,046 --> 00:25:35,486 Speaker 1: my life. That's nothing now, right, offensive linemen are running 457 00:25:35,486 --> 00:25:40,006 Speaker 1: four fours. These kids are built different. Man. I got 458 00:25:40,086 --> 00:25:42,126 Speaker 1: in right, I got in right at the right time. 459 00:25:42,206 --> 00:25:46,486 Speaker 1: Y'all boys are fast. Yeah. Yeah. The things that you 460 00:25:46,846 --> 00:25:50,286 Speaker 1: carved out an incredible career. You did play in Seattle. 461 00:25:50,606 --> 00:25:54,406 Speaker 1: You played with with Russ there, you had Pete Carroll 462 00:25:54,526 --> 00:25:59,526 Speaker 1: as your coach, knowing those two, those two guys and 463 00:25:59,566 --> 00:26:05,566 Speaker 1: the Seahawks organization. And there were reports that US wanted 464 00:26:05,686 --> 00:26:10,926 Speaker 1: to fire Pete Carroll and John Schneider too, Like what 465 00:26:11,006 --> 00:26:13,606 Speaker 1: did you make of that situation when you heard that report? 466 00:26:14,486 --> 00:26:17,926 Speaker 1: It was a lie, it was not truth, it was 467 00:26:17,966 --> 00:26:23,606 Speaker 1: not fact. Russell never wanted anybody fired, He never asked 468 00:26:23,686 --> 00:26:27,646 Speaker 1: for anybody to be fired. That's true. The other thing 469 00:26:27,726 --> 00:26:31,446 Speaker 1: that's true is Russell has always had a strong relationship 470 00:26:31,606 --> 00:26:35,046 Speaker 1: with coach Sean Payton, especially when they when they went 471 00:26:35,126 --> 00:26:36,726 Speaker 1: when he went to the Pro Bowl and Sean was 472 00:26:36,766 --> 00:26:40,846 Speaker 1: coaching the NFC side, They had a great relationship. The 473 00:26:40,846 --> 00:26:43,126 Speaker 1: other thing that's true is coming out of the draft, 474 00:26:43,606 --> 00:26:46,886 Speaker 1: Russell's favorite player was Drew Brees. He looked up to 475 00:26:46,966 --> 00:26:49,326 Speaker 1: Drew Brees a lot. Part of the reason why he 476 00:26:49,406 --> 00:26:51,086 Speaker 1: moved to San Diego was to be able to work 477 00:26:51,086 --> 00:26:55,526 Speaker 1: out with Drew Brees in the off season. So they are, 478 00:26:56,006 --> 00:26:58,286 Speaker 1: they are, And he admired, you know, he admired Sean 479 00:26:58,326 --> 00:27:00,566 Speaker 1: Payton from AFAR. He really talked about it all the time, 480 00:27:00,766 --> 00:27:04,646 Speaker 1: you know, but he never went to ownership and saying, hey, 481 00:27:05,086 --> 00:27:07,966 Speaker 1: I'd rather have Sean paid over over Pete Carroll. You know, 482 00:27:08,006 --> 00:27:11,046 Speaker 1: were there was there relationship perfect? No, but um, you know, 483 00:27:11,086 --> 00:27:13,446 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I think they got 484 00:27:13,446 --> 00:27:17,686 Speaker 1: a great relationship. Now, uh, they were both winners and 485 00:27:17,726 --> 00:27:20,406 Speaker 1: they both cared about people a lot, you know, and 486 00:27:20,446 --> 00:27:23,166 Speaker 1: so um that's what I make of that article though, 487 00:27:23,166 --> 00:27:25,086 Speaker 1: I mean, I I don't mean to call anybody a liar. 488 00:27:25,126 --> 00:27:29,326 Speaker 1: That's kind of disrespectful, But it wasn't fact that that 489 00:27:29,486 --> 00:27:34,366 Speaker 1: was what was reported there. Contact and perspective change a lot. 490 00:27:34,926 --> 00:27:37,286 Speaker 1: It's very very important, so to add that layer there. 491 00:27:37,326 --> 00:27:40,686 Speaker 1: Thank you for for for bringing that on here with us. Um. 492 00:27:40,766 --> 00:27:44,886 Speaker 1: You were fourth row picked in twenty twelve NFL Draft. 493 00:27:45,406 --> 00:27:47,926 Speaker 1: How different and what's your view on how like the 494 00:27:48,006 --> 00:27:51,006 Speaker 1: first rounders are treated basically the guys m who are 495 00:27:51,086 --> 00:27:54,326 Speaker 1: later on in the draft. Oh man, there's so many 496 00:27:54,486 --> 00:27:57,926 Speaker 1: layers to that, mj um. You know, guys who are 497 00:27:57,966 --> 00:28:00,646 Speaker 1: who were picked in the first round, they get a 498 00:28:00,686 --> 00:28:04,646 Speaker 1: lot more leeway their rookie years. But I want to 499 00:28:04,886 --> 00:28:07,726 Speaker 1: ask forward to when you have the opportunity to get 500 00:28:07,766 --> 00:28:13,406 Speaker 1: your second contract. It's very interesting when despite how you 501 00:28:13,486 --> 00:28:17,726 Speaker 1: may have performed on the field, you know, teams will 502 00:28:17,846 --> 00:28:21,846 Speaker 1: view you like, hey, you were you were a fifth 503 00:28:21,926 --> 00:28:27,886 Speaker 1: round pick, your extension probably isn't as deserving to be 504 00:28:27,966 --> 00:28:31,486 Speaker 1: as much as a first round pick. He's in line 505 00:28:31,566 --> 00:28:35,446 Speaker 1: for the same extension and maybe from a statistical standpoint, 506 00:28:35,566 --> 00:28:40,686 Speaker 1: might not even be as good. But it's already a bias. Correct, 507 00:28:40,886 --> 00:28:44,086 Speaker 1: it's already a bias on no matter what you came 508 00:28:44,126 --> 00:28:49,526 Speaker 1: in as a sixth round pick, you're ready for an extension. Yeah, 509 00:28:49,526 --> 00:28:51,926 Speaker 1: I mean you did really well, but you're I mean, 510 00:28:51,926 --> 00:28:54,686 Speaker 1: you're you got the most interceptions in the league. You're 511 00:28:54,726 --> 00:28:57,566 Speaker 1: drafted in the sixth round. Don't don't know if I 512 00:28:57,606 --> 00:29:01,366 Speaker 1: can give you as much as a first rounder, so 513 00:29:01,446 --> 00:29:04,686 Speaker 1: maybe you have to go elsewhere. Like those are the 514 00:29:04,806 --> 00:29:08,126 Speaker 1: things that happened when you're drafted in a little round. Somebody, 515 00:29:08,206 --> 00:29:12,166 Speaker 1: somebody yesterday talk to the guys. It's funny, says it 516 00:29:12,206 --> 00:29:17,566 Speaker 1: doesn't matter where you get drafted. It doesn't, right, because 517 00:29:17,566 --> 00:29:19,846 Speaker 1: you can make the team. You have a career, right 518 00:29:19,926 --> 00:29:24,206 Speaker 1: Jerry Bright, Tom Brady, We've seen it. But in something 519 00:29:24,606 --> 00:29:29,366 Speaker 1: is most instances, it kind of matters. Yeah, business wise, 520 00:29:29,446 --> 00:29:32,046 Speaker 1: it's something. It's something to think about, especially when you're 521 00:29:32,086 --> 00:29:35,126 Speaker 1: building game. I guess perhaps there are so many layers 522 00:29:35,126 --> 00:29:37,446 Speaker 1: down right with like the college kids, because there as 523 00:29:37,486 --> 00:29:40,766 Speaker 1: an I AM now, there's brand partnership. So but in 524 00:29:40,886 --> 00:29:44,166 Speaker 1: terms of just the playing football aspect of it. There 525 00:29:44,366 --> 00:29:46,686 Speaker 1: that's the reality of it, like there just is there 526 00:29:46,766 --> 00:29:49,566 Speaker 1: is a difference between the two. Well, and I try 527 00:29:49,566 --> 00:29:51,646 Speaker 1: to dig into layers a bit, but you know, we don't. 528 00:29:51,686 --> 00:29:53,326 Speaker 1: I talk about people's money because that's some of our 529 00:29:53,366 --> 00:29:56,686 Speaker 1: business though, but it's not it's not even just about 530 00:29:56,686 --> 00:29:59,086 Speaker 1: the money, it's just it's just how you're viewed. Yeah, 531 00:29:59,446 --> 00:30:04,566 Speaker 1: the respect right. Yeah, Like I was drafted, Okay, when 532 00:30:04,606 --> 00:30:08,526 Speaker 1: I came in and I talked to the Seahawks, they said, listen, 533 00:30:08,526 --> 00:30:12,686 Speaker 1: we're drafting you to be the backup running back. And 534 00:30:12,766 --> 00:30:15,806 Speaker 1: so once you're once you're kind of labeled that from 535 00:30:15,806 --> 00:30:18,926 Speaker 1: the beginning, it's really hard to break that ice into 536 00:30:19,206 --> 00:30:23,846 Speaker 1: into becoming something else. And that happens all across the league. 537 00:30:24,606 --> 00:30:27,406 Speaker 1: That's real. You know, you know you're you're mentoring the 538 00:30:28,046 --> 00:30:30,566 Speaker 1: running back. So it'll be fun to see how those 539 00:30:30,606 --> 00:30:35,566 Speaker 1: guys perform when their their name is called. Also, the 540 00:30:35,686 --> 00:30:40,446 Speaker 1: quarterbacks will be showcase as well, and there's a lot 541 00:30:40,486 --> 00:30:43,446 Speaker 1: of intrigue with some of these prospects, whether it's Will 542 00:30:43,526 --> 00:30:48,966 Speaker 1: Levis or Anthony Richardson CJ. Stroud. What is your take 543 00:30:49,046 --> 00:30:51,846 Speaker 1: on some of these young signal callers that we're going 544 00:30:51,966 --> 00:30:55,446 Speaker 1: to see because it seems like all of them have 545 00:30:55,806 --> 00:30:59,246 Speaker 1: a flaw or two and there's a little bit of risk, 546 00:30:59,766 --> 00:31:03,326 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of talent and there's no question. Yeah, 547 00:31:04,526 --> 00:31:07,126 Speaker 1: I think I think the bigger question because you you 548 00:31:07,766 --> 00:31:10,006 Speaker 1: nail that these guys have talent. There's a couple of 549 00:31:10,086 --> 00:31:13,806 Speaker 1: question marks with these guys. So for me, the question 550 00:31:13,886 --> 00:31:16,046 Speaker 1: really kind of goes to the team. In my opinion, 551 00:31:16,646 --> 00:31:19,206 Speaker 1: if a team is looking at c. J. Stroud or 552 00:31:19,206 --> 00:31:22,126 Speaker 1: Anthony Ridgardson or any of these guys, how do you 553 00:31:22,686 --> 00:31:27,246 Speaker 1: plan on utilizing him within your system? Let's use the 554 00:31:27,286 --> 00:31:30,206 Speaker 1: forty nine ers for an example. All Right, they go out, 555 00:31:30,206 --> 00:31:32,326 Speaker 1: they get Trey Lance, they trade a bunch of picks. 556 00:31:32,966 --> 00:31:35,726 Speaker 1: They go and get Trey Lance. Okay, because they feel 557 00:31:35,766 --> 00:31:40,126 Speaker 1: like he's going to be their next franchise quarterback. But 558 00:31:40,286 --> 00:31:43,086 Speaker 1: before he was injured, if you look at the way 559 00:31:43,086 --> 00:31:46,526 Speaker 1: that they utilize him, I don't know if they utilize 560 00:31:46,606 --> 00:31:48,486 Speaker 1: him to the best of his strengths. We knew that 561 00:31:48,486 --> 00:31:51,046 Speaker 1: he can use his feet, so they try to do that. 562 00:31:51,766 --> 00:31:55,406 Speaker 1: But quarterbacks don't train to run the football. They train 563 00:31:55,606 --> 00:31:57,726 Speaker 1: to throw it. So when you put them in these 564 00:31:57,726 --> 00:32:00,326 Speaker 1: positions where they're running the football all the time, what happened? 565 00:32:00,326 --> 00:32:05,366 Speaker 1: They get hurt? R Jackson, you know, Josh Allen Ham Newton, 566 00:32:06,606 --> 00:32:09,166 Speaker 1: examples go on and on. Right, So, if you're looking 567 00:32:09,166 --> 00:32:12,806 Speaker 1: at a guy like CJ. Stroud, Anthony Richardson and these 568 00:32:12,806 --> 00:32:15,126 Speaker 1: and these guys who can do some dynamic things with 569 00:32:15,166 --> 00:32:18,486 Speaker 1: their feet, how do you plan on utilizing that player? 570 00:32:18,566 --> 00:32:21,646 Speaker 1: Do you have a plan to develop them as passers 571 00:32:22,366 --> 00:32:25,206 Speaker 1: or do you want them to be extension extended running backs, 572 00:32:25,206 --> 00:32:27,606 Speaker 1: Because if that's the case, they're all gonna they're all 573 00:32:27,646 --> 00:32:30,966 Speaker 1: not gonna do well. They're not. And so I'd love 574 00:32:31,006 --> 00:32:33,126 Speaker 1: that that you put the onus on the team because 575 00:32:33,166 --> 00:32:35,206 Speaker 1: it's true. They're coming in, they're showing you this is 576 00:32:35,206 --> 00:32:37,326 Speaker 1: who I am. These are the skills that I bring 577 00:32:37,366 --> 00:32:39,166 Speaker 1: to the table for your organization. How are you going 578 00:32:39,206 --> 00:32:41,206 Speaker 1: to build me up now and put me in a 579 00:32:41,246 --> 00:32:44,806 Speaker 1: position to succeed? Now, sometimes they do that and it 580 00:32:44,846 --> 00:32:47,646 Speaker 1: may or may not work out, But I do like 581 00:32:47,686 --> 00:32:50,446 Speaker 1: that the that theonus has put on the teams there 582 00:32:50,486 --> 00:32:54,046 Speaker 1: to do right by the talent that they are investing in, right, 583 00:32:54,086 --> 00:32:55,726 Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, everything has to 584 00:32:55,926 --> 00:32:58,926 Speaker 1: has to line up. Yeah, and these guys are rookie still, 585 00:32:58,966 --> 00:33:02,646 Speaker 1: even the quarterbacks, you know, they have so high expectations 586 00:33:02,686 --> 00:33:05,606 Speaker 1: when you come into the league as a quarter back. Well, 587 00:33:05,646 --> 00:33:07,886 Speaker 1: guess what, just like a young dB who's got to 588 00:33:07,966 --> 00:33:10,846 Speaker 1: learn how to backpedal and get his very quickly. Man, 589 00:33:10,926 --> 00:33:15,246 Speaker 1: those those same developmental you know, flaws that may exist 590 00:33:15,246 --> 00:33:18,966 Speaker 1: in a quarterback have to be developed over time as well. 591 00:33:19,766 --> 00:33:21,846 Speaker 1: And so yeah, I think the onus is more on 592 00:33:21,886 --> 00:33:24,686 Speaker 1: the team because, especially because of the type of quarterback 593 00:33:24,686 --> 00:33:28,446 Speaker 1: class that we have, there's not one guy you say, oh, 594 00:33:28,486 --> 00:33:32,446 Speaker 1: you know Trevor Lawrence Andrew Luck. You know he's got 595 00:33:32,486 --> 00:33:36,486 Speaker 1: all the tools, right, these guys need development, So how 596 00:33:36,526 --> 00:33:40,166 Speaker 1: are you going to go about that process? Just a 597 00:33:40,246 --> 00:33:45,406 Speaker 1: fascinating conversation with you, Robert Turbin. I'm sorry, Turbo, now 598 00:33:45,446 --> 00:33:50,246 Speaker 1: that we know you're forty time, it has been a 599 00:33:50,286 --> 00:33:52,366 Speaker 1: pleasure to talk to you. Felt like I learned a 600 00:33:52,366 --> 00:33:56,966 Speaker 1: lot and you did give context and nuance and good 601 00:33:57,046 --> 00:34:00,686 Speaker 1: luck with mentoring these these young running backs and these players. 602 00:34:01,086 --> 00:34:03,366 Speaker 1: Just based on the small sample side of us getting 603 00:34:03,366 --> 00:34:05,486 Speaker 1: a chance to talk to you, I think they're gonna 604 00:34:05,526 --> 00:34:08,886 Speaker 1: get a lot of wisdom coming their way. So, Robert Turbin, 605 00:34:09,206 --> 00:34:11,486 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us on the El 606 00:34:11,526 --> 00:34:15,166 Speaker 1: Huddle podcast. Very enlightening. Please come back again, my friend, 607 00:34:15,646 --> 00:34:29,686 Speaker 1: Will I will thanks for having me appreciate it. Oh well, 608 00:34:30,486 --> 00:34:32,566 Speaker 1: as we mentioned earlier in the episode, this is a 609 00:34:32,606 --> 00:34:35,926 Speaker 1: time of year worth things go off the rails. So 610 00:34:36,046 --> 00:34:38,966 Speaker 1: to get us back in order, we're gonna jump on 611 00:34:39,006 --> 00:34:43,766 Speaker 1: the carousel quarterbacks, the QB carousel, y'all, because we have 612 00:34:43,886 --> 00:34:46,366 Speaker 1: quite a few who need a little landing spot. They 613 00:34:46,366 --> 00:34:48,726 Speaker 1: need to jump off find a team. So let's go 614 00:34:48,806 --> 00:34:51,246 Speaker 1: through some of them, and we talked about one briefly. 615 00:34:51,326 --> 00:34:55,006 Speaker 1: But let's go to Derek Carr first. And we understand 616 00:34:55,166 --> 00:34:57,286 Speaker 1: he talked to the Panthers in Indie. But where would 617 00:34:57,326 --> 00:35:01,246 Speaker 1: you love to see him next season? I would love 618 00:35:01,286 --> 00:35:05,806 Speaker 1: to see him with the Jets have a strong supporting 619 00:35:05,846 --> 00:35:08,526 Speaker 1: cast there. I would say Aaron Rodgers goes there, but 620 00:35:08,766 --> 00:35:11,886 Speaker 1: I think in the end Aaron Rodgers stays. But who 621 00:35:11,886 --> 00:35:15,606 Speaker 1: the hell knows. I just think Derek Carr to the 622 00:35:15,726 --> 00:35:19,406 Speaker 1: Jets sounds very plausible to me. And I know that 623 00:35:19,566 --> 00:35:24,206 Speaker 1: Robert Sala thought highly of Car, so that's what I'm 624 00:35:24,206 --> 00:35:26,326 Speaker 1: going with. I love that too. That would be my 625 00:35:26,366 --> 00:35:29,486 Speaker 1: spot as well, just because I think the combination of 626 00:35:30,006 --> 00:35:33,526 Speaker 1: Salah and Car could be really, really good. They've got 627 00:35:33,526 --> 00:35:35,686 Speaker 1: great playmakers, they're already I think it's a young team, 628 00:35:35,726 --> 00:35:38,766 Speaker 1: but a team that is definitely clearly ready to win. Now, 629 00:35:38,886 --> 00:35:44,726 Speaker 1: all right, James Richard Garoppolo, where's my boy, Jimmy gonna go? 630 00:35:44,766 --> 00:35:49,926 Speaker 1: In your mind? HEMI I think that is going to 631 00:35:50,046 --> 00:35:57,206 Speaker 1: go to the box. This old Kyle Trask business because 632 00:35:57,446 --> 00:36:00,686 Speaker 1: Kyle trash Bluss. If they were sold on it, then 633 00:36:01,966 --> 00:36:06,646 Speaker 1: why didn't they have him as the backup than Blaine Gabber? Right, 634 00:36:06,846 --> 00:36:10,006 Speaker 1: So I think that he Me would be a perfect 635 00:36:10,046 --> 00:36:13,606 Speaker 1: fit for them. But for the Bucks, they have a 636 00:36:13,606 --> 00:36:15,446 Speaker 1: lot of work to do. It feels like they got 637 00:36:15,446 --> 00:36:18,206 Speaker 1: a little older, a little slower. But that seems to 638 00:36:18,286 --> 00:36:22,966 Speaker 1: be a nice logical landing spot for Jimmy GQ me. Yeah, 639 00:36:22,966 --> 00:36:25,526 Speaker 1: I remember last season there was like a lot of 640 00:36:25,606 --> 00:36:28,126 Speaker 1: us here we're saying on ta like, oh, maybe Seahawks. 641 00:36:28,166 --> 00:36:30,886 Speaker 1: We already know what the Seahawks situation seemingly will be. 642 00:36:31,046 --> 00:36:35,406 Speaker 1: So huh he Me in Florida. I don't hate it, Yeah, 643 00:36:35,446 --> 00:36:37,286 Speaker 1: I don't hate it. Let's talk about the newer guys 644 00:36:37,326 --> 00:36:44,126 Speaker 1: coming through Bryce Young. Where could he land Bryce Young? 645 00:36:46,806 --> 00:36:49,326 Speaker 1: It was because then you have to bring up the 646 00:36:50,126 --> 00:36:56,526 Speaker 1: height differential. Then you have to also bring up the 647 00:36:56,526 --> 00:37:00,126 Speaker 1: the stature his body and whether he can absorb all 648 00:37:00,166 --> 00:37:03,566 Speaker 1: the hits. I think that's also a concern. But he 649 00:37:03,686 --> 00:37:06,686 Speaker 1: is a winner. He makes all the throws, he can 650 00:37:06,766 --> 00:37:10,606 Speaker 1: process really well. He is well liked in the locker 651 00:37:10,686 --> 00:37:13,326 Speaker 1: rooms that he's been in. I think that it's the 652 00:37:13,326 --> 00:37:19,766 Speaker 1: Texans guys. What Oh I like that under Demiko. Yeah awesome. 653 00:37:20,526 --> 00:37:23,206 Speaker 1: I like the way I can see that happening. All right, 654 00:37:23,366 --> 00:37:27,326 Speaker 1: one more CJ. Stroud also getting a lot of buzz 655 00:37:28,406 --> 00:37:32,726 Speaker 1: mm hmmm. I think that CJ. Stroud, out of all 656 00:37:33,006 --> 00:37:38,326 Speaker 1: of these draft prospects, is the most polished. Uh. He's 657 00:37:38,446 --> 00:37:44,366 Speaker 1: got the numbers, the measurables, can make, throws, can process 658 00:37:44,446 --> 00:37:47,406 Speaker 1: really well. I think that he ends up going to 659 00:37:47,526 --> 00:37:50,686 Speaker 1: the Cults because they've been desperately trying to find a 660 00:37:50,766 --> 00:37:55,406 Speaker 1: franchise QB and they will finally find one in CJ. Stroud. 661 00:37:55,926 --> 00:37:58,646 Speaker 1: I mean, this is why don't why aren't your Jennifer 662 00:37:58,646 --> 00:38:07,286 Speaker 1: and office already? I mean, this is insane, flare concise no, 663 00:38:07,366 --> 00:38:08,806 Speaker 1: but I'm right along there with you. I like I 664 00:38:08,806 --> 00:38:10,366 Speaker 1: hadn't thought about him to the culture, but that it 665 00:38:10,406 --> 00:38:12,246 Speaker 1: actually does make a lot of sense. Um. I think 666 00:38:12,286 --> 00:38:14,486 Speaker 1: the fit would be good. Good for I love that 667 00:38:14,486 --> 00:38:16,166 Speaker 1: for him. Let's see, because you know what Draft Night's 668 00:38:16,166 --> 00:38:19,006 Speaker 1: gonna be crazy. Um, all right, I like these will 669 00:38:19,206 --> 00:38:21,806 Speaker 1: I like these a lot. Yeah. So, so it's always 670 00:38:21,846 --> 00:38:24,846 Speaker 1: time to put a little bow on the l Huddle podcast. 671 00:38:24,886 --> 00:38:32,206 Speaker 1: That means ibunto. So my ibunto is Tom Brady reportedly 672 00:38:32,246 --> 00:38:38,806 Speaker 1: wants to try stand up now. Nobody asked for this. Tom, No, no, 673 00:38:39,566 --> 00:38:42,406 Speaker 1: I feel you know what you can't do. Tom. You 674 00:38:42,446 --> 00:38:45,926 Speaker 1: just can't go behind the mic and say, let's I think, 675 00:38:46,006 --> 00:38:52,886 Speaker 1: go right, that's funny. You gotta say more than that. Um. 676 00:38:52,886 --> 00:38:56,046 Speaker 1: He just doesn't strike me as somebody who could have 677 00:38:56,686 --> 00:39:01,166 Speaker 1: the the premise punchline. Premise punchline. You know, it's like, 678 00:39:01,206 --> 00:39:05,126 Speaker 1: oh boy, I was in this huddle with uh, you know, 679 00:39:05,766 --> 00:39:08,326 Speaker 1: Gronk there, and then Gronk you know, he decided to 680 00:39:08,366 --> 00:39:11,686 Speaker 1: put his hand underneath his armpit and then he started 681 00:39:11,726 --> 00:39:14,166 Speaker 1: to do arm farts. I mean, how great is that? 682 00:39:14,246 --> 00:39:19,246 Speaker 1: Everybody timing would need to worry. There's a Yeah, stand 683 00:39:19,326 --> 00:39:27,286 Speaker 1: up comedy is hard. It's very very difficult, and it's Matt. Yes, yes, 684 00:39:27,406 --> 00:39:30,766 Speaker 1: I've dabbled it. I did a long time ago a 685 00:39:30,766 --> 00:39:34,646 Speaker 1: friend of mine, Al Madrigal, who's very successful, successful actor now, 686 00:39:35,406 --> 00:39:38,406 Speaker 1: and I remember following him and and we would go 687 00:39:38,446 --> 00:39:41,566 Speaker 1: to different comedy clubs and see what worked, what killed, 688 00:39:41,606 --> 00:39:46,886 Speaker 1: and what didn't. And it's hard, really really hard. And 689 00:39:47,086 --> 00:39:48,846 Speaker 1: I just think going up there and saying, hey, I'm 690 00:39:48,846 --> 00:39:52,286 Speaker 1: TV twelve and you're not. I just don't think that's 691 00:39:52,326 --> 00:39:55,126 Speaker 1: gonna gonna be funny. So that's my EPOOM film. Something 692 00:39:55,126 --> 00:39:57,726 Speaker 1: to be said about his confidence though, all right, Tom, 693 00:39:58,166 --> 00:40:00,806 Speaker 1: the world is yours. Do what you want to do. 694 00:40:01,206 --> 00:40:03,646 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it in the other direction. Um to 695 00:40:03,926 --> 00:40:07,766 Speaker 1: a young up and humming draft prospect in Will Levis, 696 00:40:07,806 --> 00:40:10,646 Speaker 1: who I got to speak with in Indianapolis and the 697 00:40:10,686 --> 00:40:12,606 Speaker 1: brief time that I was there, So we go from 698 00:40:12,646 --> 00:40:17,566 Speaker 1: Thomas Edward Patrick Brady Junior to will wait for it, 699 00:40:18,286 --> 00:40:22,406 Speaker 1: Donovan Levis. We had we were going, I was hanging 700 00:40:22,446 --> 00:40:25,606 Speaker 1: with the noble folks. And by the way, it was 701 00:40:26,366 --> 00:40:28,206 Speaker 1: not on Wikipedia, so I was like, does he not 702 00:40:28,326 --> 00:40:30,406 Speaker 1: have Is he like a Brock Purty? Brock no middle 703 00:40:30,486 --> 00:40:32,406 Speaker 1: name Purty, and you know how I feel about full 704 00:40:32,446 --> 00:40:35,526 Speaker 1: government names. Can also confirm he is not a William 705 00:40:36,366 --> 00:40:39,886 Speaker 1: Will just Will. He told me that his parents thought 706 00:40:40,006 --> 00:40:44,006 Speaker 1: William would come across to pretentious, so they just wanted 707 00:40:44,086 --> 00:40:47,926 Speaker 1: him to be Will. So it's Will Donovan Levis. I 708 00:40:48,006 --> 00:40:51,406 Speaker 1: was really really impressed by him. He was. He was 709 00:40:51,446 --> 00:40:54,646 Speaker 1: also very polished. He's like a regimented guy, right Like 710 00:40:54,686 --> 00:40:56,606 Speaker 1: he has his schedule, he has his watch, He's like, 711 00:40:56,606 --> 00:40:58,406 Speaker 1: at this time, I'm doing this interview. With MJ. Then 712 00:40:58,406 --> 00:41:00,486 Speaker 1: I'm going here like he was on it in a 713 00:41:00,486 --> 00:41:03,966 Speaker 1: professional level. But in my conversation with him, which there 714 00:41:04,046 --> 00:41:06,446 Speaker 1: was no prep for, right, like we just were chopping 715 00:41:06,486 --> 00:41:10,126 Speaker 1: it up. Um, he was very likable. He reminded me 716 00:41:10,166 --> 00:41:12,526 Speaker 1: of Aidan Hutchinson in the term in the way that 717 00:41:12,686 --> 00:41:15,886 Speaker 1: he wasn't contrived, but he was very put together. So 718 00:41:16,206 --> 00:41:18,606 Speaker 1: that makes me root for him even more now going 719 00:41:18,646 --> 00:41:21,046 Speaker 1: into the combine and ahead of the draft. So will 720 00:41:21,446 --> 00:41:25,686 Speaker 1: Donovan levis looking out for what you're gonna do? Man, Yeah, 721 00:41:25,726 --> 00:41:28,206 Speaker 1: it's good stuff, I thought, he said, like, like, I 722 00:41:28,246 --> 00:41:30,966 Speaker 1: thought he was really really likable, like and I thought 723 00:41:31,006 --> 00:41:34,766 Speaker 1: you were gonna say me, I'm not gonna of course, 724 00:41:35,846 --> 00:41:38,286 Speaker 1: but that's a high benchmark. That's a high bench I 725 00:41:38,286 --> 00:41:40,766 Speaker 1: don't just throw out Willson like Will Sell. That's to anybody, 726 00:41:40,806 --> 00:41:42,526 Speaker 1: all right, I only talk to him. You know. He's 727 00:41:42,526 --> 00:41:45,486 Speaker 1: a star. Yeah, he's he's a star on TikTok by 728 00:41:45,526 --> 00:41:47,766 Speaker 1: the way that he puts mayo in his coffee and 729 00:41:47,806 --> 00:41:51,686 Speaker 1: he also eats bananas with the banana peels on there. Yeah. 730 00:41:51,726 --> 00:41:53,126 Speaker 1: I didn't have enough time to get into all that 731 00:41:53,166 --> 00:41:55,206 Speaker 1: because that's very layered, and I was like, we I 732 00:41:55,286 --> 00:41:57,366 Speaker 1: need a full, like two hours with you to talk 733 00:41:57,406 --> 00:41:59,686 Speaker 1: to you about this, okay, because I feel like there's 734 00:41:59,926 --> 00:42:03,326 Speaker 1: no there's more there. Bless him, yeah, bless him. But 735 00:42:03,366 --> 00:42:07,046 Speaker 1: he's a TikTok star. You are a star. That is 736 00:42:07,766 --> 00:42:12,206 Speaker 1: another podcast in the books. We appreciate everybody who was 737 00:42:12,446 --> 00:42:15,766 Speaker 1: listening to us. This l Huddle podcast we're very proud of. 738 00:42:16,366 --> 00:42:21,246 Speaker 1: Make sure to subscribe to like to download. We appreciate 739 00:42:21,366 --> 00:42:26,086 Speaker 1: your hanging with us. As always, MJ meet Brima Ermana 740 00:42:26,166 --> 00:42:45,806 Speaker 1: as always. Heay next week. And Huddle is a production 741 00:42:45,846 --> 00:42:49,446 Speaker 1: of the NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts 742 00:42:49,446 --> 00:42:53,686 Speaker 1: from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 743 00:42:53,806 --> 00:42:55,006 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.