1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: It looked like real football out there. Finally welcome Bird Gang. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: On today's show, Danny Surrek joins me, but jama Football 3 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 1: is no more. The Cardinals put the pads on Tuesday, 4 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: first time this training camp. The hits were loud, the 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: trash talk even louder. As DJ Huffrey said after, it 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: was fun highlights, straight ahead, plus what the GM had 7 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: to say about Clayton Tune and the twenty twenty four 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: NFL drafts. Yeah, I'm not kidding, but first preseason TV news. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode six fifty eight, and it 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: starts now. 11 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 12 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: Who to Baker? What Heart? 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 3: What rent? 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable. 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,640 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai Crowd partner of 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit Azycardinals 17 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcasts. 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: He's a a ten half of five? He did again? 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: So far? 20 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: Verry Magic. 21 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: Wow, here's Craig Griolude. 22 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: Let's start here. The press release hit my inbox at 23 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:18,199 Speaker 1: eleven fifteen Wednesday morning. It read the Emmy Award winning 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: Cardinals Broadcast Network will produce all three of the Cardinals 25 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: preseason games that can be seen locally in Phoenix on 26 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:29,839 Speaker 1: twelve News beginning Friday, August eleventh, versus Denver. It continued. 27 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: Team reporter Danny Sirek highlights the coverage and it basically 28 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: I just stopped reading after that. 29 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 3: I'm pleasantly surprised because right before we started recording, we 30 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: were talking about what we wanted to talk about on 31 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 3: this episode, and you didn't tell me what you wanted 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: to open with me said I've got something beyond your toes, 33 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: and I was thinking it was going to be something 34 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: bad that I had said, or wait, it's a very 35 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: pleasant surprise. 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Wow, when I say that, your first instinct is. 37 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: Negative, not necessarily negative. But I don't think I've quite 38 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: mastered having a great filter around you guys in terms 39 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 3: of like knowing that if I say something ridiculous or sarcastic, 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: that it's going to end up on the podcast or 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: radio some form or fashion. But thank you. Very excited 42 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 3: to do sideline for those. Normally it's you know, those 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: broadcasts during the season are national, so we don't have 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 3: like that kind of broadcast coverage, with the exception of 45 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: preseason and last year, one of our games was nationally broadcast. 46 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: I was out of town in a wedding for another 47 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: so I only got one opportunity last year in Tennessee, 48 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: which was a lot of fun. So I'm very much 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 3: looking forward to having that opportunity for all three preseason 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 3: games this year. 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: What commissioner, Paul excuse me, what commissioner Roger Goodell? 52 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: Were you gonna say, Paul Coveys? 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no no. I was thinking, actually 54 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: Paul Tagli but which I don't know where that was from. 55 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: But my guess is is based off your experience in 56 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: the past that they said, you know what, forget Cardinals 57 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: national television in the preseason. We need local broadcasts. We 58 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: want more Danny Sirek on the sidelines, so not only 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: people in Arizona can see you. But when the NFL 60 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: network picks up the replays late nights later in the week. 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 3: Mom and Dad watch Tru's exactly what Roger Goodell is 62 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 3: spending his time doing. Uh, well, I'm pretty sure that 63 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: first game against the Chi Broncos against the Broncos is 64 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: already like. 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: Network. 66 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: You're right, so that one will already air there. 67 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: So you've got that one, which is a week from 68 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: this Friday. By the way, you say August eleventh, and 69 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't really register until you say one week from Friday, 70 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: as in this coming Friday. And then you've got you 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: mentioned the Chiefs, and then the game in Minnesota. There'll 72 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: be radio as well. Paul Calvic Drew Stanton will handle 73 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: the Broncos and Chiefs games. Then Calvic and Jay Feely 74 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: on radio at the Vikings game. But again, you know, 75 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: forget Paul, just listening to Dave pash Ron Wolfley. But 76 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: again the highlight is you. Thank you, sis. 77 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 3: I appreciate that you'll be working hard too. 78 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: You tell me, well, I guess that'll to be determined. 79 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: I have you know, you'll be working whatever the fine 80 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Almhunter, who is within earshot here of 81 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: this broadcast, tells me to do. That is what I do. 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: You might not be working hard, but you will be 83 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 3: working and we'll take what we can get. 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: Craig, I appreciate that. All right, pleasantries aside. Here On Tuesday, 85 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: August first, the first padded practice of training camp, powered 86 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: by Cox head coach Jonathan Gannon. Before practice, quote We're 87 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: gonna cut it loose end quote. I don't really know 88 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: if they cut it loose. There was some hitting, there 89 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: was some collisions, as DJ Humphreys reference, but I don't know, 90 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,359 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. I didn't feel that same 91 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 1: intensity that I was anticipating. Now. It was the latter 92 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: half of practice, the last forty five minutes in which 93 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: we saw someone on one linemen, pass catchers, dbs, and 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: then teamwork. But okay, they're in pads. It was a 95 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: little bit more physical, but I was hoping for a 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: little bit more, maybe just because it's been so long 97 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: and we're waiting now until day six. So but that 98 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: was just my initial reaction. 99 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 3: Right during those one on ones, you could definitely feel 100 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 3: the extra juice from those dbs, which you would expect, right, 101 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 3: They pretty much have that juice every single day in 102 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 3: or not in pads. I agree. I think maybe that's 103 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 3: also just you know, seeing clips online of all these 104 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: other teams in the hype of pads, right, everyone wants 105 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: to have that big burst of energy or you know, 106 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 3: maybe see like a fight or two, right, like, you 107 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 3: want to see that, but that's just not realistic. That's 108 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 3: not something that Jonathan Gannon is going to tolerate. So 109 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 3: I'm hoping that once we see more padded practices later 110 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 3: throughout the week and then moving on throughout training camp, 111 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 3: maybe we'll see some more of that. This might just 112 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 3: still kind of be trying to not necessarily get your 113 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: feet wet, right, but practicing and pads is very different 114 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 3: than not obviously, and the fact that this was the 115 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 3: first one is maybe just kind of getting settled and 116 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: kind of getting used to things, and maybe once they 117 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 3: start to feel more comfortable, you know, you can start 118 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 3: seeing some of that swag come out and we'll feel 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 3: that energy. 120 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: It's a good point. It's been seven months since these 121 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: players have been in pads, and then I'm sure JG 122 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: has this team so conditioned based off what happened on 123 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 1: back to Football back Back back to Football weekend. As 124 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: far as seeing Dennis Day and LJ. Collier ejected from 125 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: practice because a little pushing and shoving, maybe that's in 126 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: the back of their mind as well. Because any loss 127 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: reps right now are going to be huge, because this 128 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: is all about competing starting spots, backup spots. Just to 129 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 1: make that fifty three man roster. You need to be 130 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: on the football field, right. 131 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: You need to be able to have that energy, have 132 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: that passion and that juice without losing your temper right, 133 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 3: keep it, keep it contained. And that's what you need 134 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: to see because when asked, you know, week one of 135 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 3: training camp at one of his press conferences, I can't 136 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: tell you what day it was because I can't even 137 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: tell you what day it is today. Gannon had said 138 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 3: that the reason there's no tolerance for fighting is because 139 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 3: you can't do it in a game, so why would 140 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 3: you allow it in practice? 141 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: So no fisticuffs, no skirmishes. There was some join and 142 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: the loudest that I heard first of all and then 143 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 1: saw was Michael Wilson and Christian Matthew. 144 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: That was after one on ones. 145 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: That was one on ones, and it was Wilson who 146 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: got the best of the second year corner. But again 147 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: later on they were still going at one another, but good, 148 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: good respect between the two. But I'm impressed by Michael 149 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: Wilson because I didn't think we had not seen that 150 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: side of him. 151 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: I will say, from my angle, it looked like Christian 152 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 3: Matthew was a little handsy, Okay, looked like there might 153 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: have been you know, he was pretty wrapped up on them. 154 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: So I wonder if you know, just Michael Wilson feeling 155 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 3: that maybe words were exchanged afterwards. That would not be uncommon, 156 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's kind of you know, you want to 157 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: see guys, you know, like kind of stand up fromselves 158 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: and you know their teammates rush tub. But again, you 159 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 3: don't want it to go overbre You don't want anybody 160 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 3: breaking a hand on a helmet or anything like that. 161 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: And it's bragging rights if nothing else, because later on 162 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: during dinner team meetings the next day, it's that I 163 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,439 Speaker 1: got you, and now all of a sudden you're keeping 164 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: score and who's winning, and you want to see that 165 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: good back and forth, and I think we did see 166 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: that during one on once. Then the other side of 167 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: the football field, it was O line, D line and 168 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: trying to get an idea who those five offensive linemen 169 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: are going to be the backups, and then what your 170 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: rotation is going to be at the D line spot 171 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: and then your edge rushers. But again everyone's looking at 172 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: certain individuals, and I found myself focusing on number seventy. 173 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: Paris Johnson Junior is a mountain of a man. He 174 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: looked very, very good, but he had six inches and 175 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: eighty pounds on Dennis Gardak on a couple of those reps. 176 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: So first impressions are important. It was first day in pads, 177 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: but I like what I saw out of the. 178 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 3: Rookie, right, and you don't expect to be perfect. There 179 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,199 Speaker 3: was a move where you know, obviously they're not going 180 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: full contact, they're not tackling, but Cam Thomas did beat 181 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: him honest one move and would have sacked the quarterbacks. Right, 182 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 3: But that's what you expect from rookie. This is the 183 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 3: time to kind of learn all of that. And even 184 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: when DJ Humphries talked to the media after practice, he 185 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 3: was talking about Paris Johnson and John Gains, the rookie 186 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: offensive lineman, and how keen they are to the playbook 187 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 3: and how they've been picking everything up in their effort. 188 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 3: And while it's only day one in pass right, the 189 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 3: fact that you're most tenured, he's the most tenured cardinal, 190 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 3: isn't he at this point? 191 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: Humphries is, yeah, right. 192 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: But to have DJ Humphries recognize that, I think says 193 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: a lot. When it comes to rotation, it really feels 194 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: like that's what they're gonna do with the D line, 195 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 3: that they're truly going to be on a rotation. 196 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: I feel like. 197 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: Throughout camp at this point you can say for most 198 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 3: position groups you have a feel for what the first 199 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 3: team with the starters would look like. Right who's getting 200 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 3: those first team reps pretty consistently. And it feels like 201 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: the defensive line is the one position where they're constantly 202 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 3: rotating the combinations and who's starting, who's second team. That's 203 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 3: what it feels like like that's really gonna just be 204 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 3: a constant rotation overall of practice. It's kind of interesting 205 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 3: to say that I feel like the defense had a 206 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 3: better day than the offense. And I say that because 207 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 3: I mean expectations don't mean anything, but coming into the season, 208 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 3: which we've had other seasons where we said this before, right, 209 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: when you're looking at offense and defense, you look at 210 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: the offense as a stronger unit as a whole. I 211 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 3: would you know, I think the safety duo in Jalen 212 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: Thompson but a Baker that is arguably maybe your strongest, 213 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: you know, pairing on the team, but as a whole, right, 214 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: you look at the offense probably being a little stronger 215 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: than the defense, especially when you start to look at 216 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 3: those front seven on defense. So it's interesting that I 217 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 3: felt like the defense had a better day than practice, 218 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 3: and it wasn't just picks. It just seemed like they 219 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: were reading what the offense was doing and they were 220 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 3: getting through the line of scrimmage, not with ease, but 221 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 3: they were doing it on a consistent basis. So it 222 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: was just kind of interesting to see that the defense 223 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 3: was having a better day than the offense. 224 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks scrambling to evade the rush, get out of trouble, 225 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: DB's stepping into the passing lane breaking up passes. Josh 226 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: Woods did have an interception, and I'll say this Danny 227 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: plug here for the Red Seaver Report earlier on Tuesday, 228 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: Josh Woods joining myself and Paul Calvic, you come on 229 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: the Red Sea Report that day in practice, you stand 230 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: out so partially responsible for performance on Tuesday. 231 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: Well, give me a heads up on who you're gonna 232 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 3: interview next week so I can keep my eye on 233 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: them and my phone on them throughout practice. 234 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: Another person that has looked good and not just on Tuesday, 235 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: but flip it over to the offense, and that is 236 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: tight End Noah Tongii, who has zero career catches in 237 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: his career. He was the first official transaction after Jonathan 238 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: Gannon was hired. Yes, Noah is from the Philadelphia Eagles, 239 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: and he just seems to be one always in the 240 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: right spot. Two. Whenever the football is thrown his way, 241 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: he makes the catch, makes the effort, whether it's a 242 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: diving catch or a lunging catch, but he just seems 243 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: to You look up and like eighty one again and 244 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: you look down, you're like, oh, yeah, that's TONGII. Now. 245 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 1: On Tuesday, this Cardinals team was down four tight ends. 246 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:57,079 Speaker 1: No zach Ertz, no Tran McBride once again. For a 247 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: while there, I didn't even see him anywhere on the field. 248 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: He disappeared on me. Jess Wayne was out there but 249 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: not participating in seven on seven or eleven on eleven. 250 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: And then Joel Hungeford, the undrafted free agent out of Michigan, 251 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: he was standing and watching. So an opportunity for the 252 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: tight ends to get a lot of reps. And it 253 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: was eighty one togy I. It was Bernard's Psychovitz number 254 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: eighty getting a lot of those reps with the first unit. 255 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 3: Well, toky I has been getting looks even with those 256 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 3: other tight ends being out there, and we know to 257 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 3: expect more. Twelve thirteen personnel and right now, if you 258 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: don't have zach Ertz, we don't know what's going on 259 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 3: with Trey McBride. All we've been told from head coach 260 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon is that it's nick and bruises. But apparently a. 261 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Couple of nicks, bumps and bruises. 262 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently he's bruised enough to where he's not really 263 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 3: practicing neither as Hollywood Brown. So if you're already down 264 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 3: zach Ertz and Trey McBride, Jeff Swain is next, and 265 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 3: then and then I think Noah TOGII and again. Up 266 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 3: until this point at camp, he's been getting a lot 267 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 3: of it seems like this coaching staff likes what they 268 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: see out of him. 269 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 1: Now, there was a new addition to the tight end 270 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 1: group on Tuesday. Did you happen to see a different 271 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: colored uniform lined up next to the right tackle a 272 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 1: couple of times? Black jersey number nineteen Jeff Driscoll lined 273 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: up in a three point stance. When we got to 274 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 1: the third team offense and I was talking with Darren 275 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: Irberant on the sideline, It's like, what are they doing? 276 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 1: Until I realized, well, they're running out of tight ends, 277 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: you need a placeholder there. But Driscoll at six four 278 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: two thirty five does kind of have that tight end body. 279 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,120 Speaker 1: But it was odd to see whether it was Colts 280 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: or Clayton or David Blowden, and all of a sudden 281 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: there is Jeff Driscoll lined up on the line of 282 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: Scrimmage's like, what are you doing? But when you need 283 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: an emergency tight end, you need to fill that spot 284 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 1: with somebody, and they did it with a quarterback. 285 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I am intrigued when we when we if we, 286 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 3: you know, figure out what what exactly Hollywood Brown Trey 287 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: McBride are dealing with, because you wouldn't think it's injuries 288 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 3: that kind of affected them last year. This time last year, 289 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 3: Trey McBride was dealing with back, however he played throughout 290 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 3: the season. Hollywood Brown had his foot injury, however, he 291 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 3: said he's fine. So it's just kind of interesting of 292 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: what exactly are they dealing with. We don't know, but 293 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 3: they're not practicing. They were at both of them were 294 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 3: out there at one point, you know, helmets in hand, 295 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: pads on, but not not really participating. Hollywoo Brown did 296 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: a few like individual stuff and then when it became 297 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 3: the teamwork, he was not participating. 298 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: Keyance Angram again second year running back. He has been present, 299 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: just hasn't done anything, not even position work the past 300 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: two days. The only player that we know of that 301 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: has been given an injury designation is my j Sanders, 302 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: who is wearing a cast on his right hand and 303 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: according to JG, we'll be back quote pretty soon. Now 304 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: what does that mean? I don't know, but at least one, 305 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: it's just good to see my Jay watching practice because 306 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: the first couple of days after he left practice, surely 307 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: he was just mia. 308 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: It does seem like though the cast is getting smaller, right, 309 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: it was like the soft cast and it was a 310 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 3: brace and now it just kind of looks like, I 311 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: don't know if it's a hand or more so, a 312 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 3: thumb doesn't look like a full brace that's covering like 313 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 3: his wrist. In his full hand, it looked like more 314 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: just his thumb was pretty isolated. So who knows. 315 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: Need him back on the field, need b Jo Julari 316 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: to get off pup because without those two you look 317 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: at that pass rush and the inexperience at pass rush. 318 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: Because right now, if Zavian Collins and Dennis Gardick are 319 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: one two, whether which side of the line of scrimmage 320 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: they're lined up against. I mean, Gardik has done it, 321 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: but it's been two years since his breakout season, if 322 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: you will, when Chandler Jones got hurt, and then for Xavin, 323 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: it's a brand new position, and I think it's as 324 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: much as we're all excited about it, that's a lot 325 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: to put on someone's plate. 326 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 3: I also think it's a lot to put on b 327 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: j o Jalari though with right, I mean right he is. 328 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 3: Experience is not a question. He's experienced and call it. 329 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: And so when he comes back, I mean you're hoping 330 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: he comes off the pup list and is able to 331 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: get enough practice in or maybe even a preseason game 332 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:10,920 Speaker 3: or two to try and get some sort of routine 333 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 3: down and get a feel for going up against NFLS 334 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: offensive lineman, right, not just who you're going off in college. 335 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: So obviously he has that experience, But I'm not even 336 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 3: fully confident of expecting that bj can come back and 337 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:28,199 Speaker 3: immediately be one of your starters because we don't know anything. 338 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: He didn't participate on the field throughout the offseason, because 339 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 3: we now know he was nursing a knee injury that 340 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: he had a procedure on after the draft. So there's 341 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: a lot of question marks, and obviously you have high hopes, 342 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 3: but I don't know if it's fair to say we 343 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 3: have high expectations for bj Ojalai. Obviously you do from 344 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 3: where he was drafted and what he did in college, 345 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: but it's just hard to expect a rookie to come 346 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 3: in maybe what a week or two, let's say before 347 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 3: the regular season starts, and be ready to go fully 348 00:17:58,280 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: Week one in. 349 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 1: Washington, miss that first preseason game at this point, perhaps 350 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: play against the Chiefs? Do you play against the Vikings? 351 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: Because you're right, it's that delicate balance that all front 352 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: offices and coaching staffs go through, is especially with young 353 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: guys that you expect to contribute. They need their reps, 354 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: yet if they're dealing with something, you don't want them 355 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: to miss a lot of time. So what do you 356 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: do with an Ojalai who certainly has a role and 357 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: could be your number one pass rusher based off, as 358 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned, what he did in college, But in order 359 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: to do that you need to see it in action. 360 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:43,919 Speaker 3: This might be a situation I kind of think back to, 361 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 3: like Xavin Collins almost where you play them more as 362 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: a utility player as they're starting to understand the playbook 363 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 3: and kind of get used to the speed of the 364 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 3: game and grasp everything, and then throughout the season you 365 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: start to play them more. Is kind of what I 366 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 3: would imagine you might have to do with bi Jo Jalari. 367 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 3: The longer you you know he's out, the closer you 368 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 3: get to the regular season. 369 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: Starting at this point, obvious passing downs second and long, 370 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: third and long to where all of a sudden, there 371 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: runs eighteen out on the football field for one snap, 372 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: and it's the role is very defined. Go get the quarterback, 373 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: and that's basically what you tell them until you're right. 374 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: You get those reps, more comfortable within the playbook, your 375 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: conditioning is better. I hope we don't get to that point, 376 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 1: but this is the first full week of training camp. 377 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 1: And again, pass rush to me remains the biggest question 378 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: mark because if you don't have anyone to get after 379 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: the opposing quarterback, then all of a sudden, those guys 380 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: in the second area, as good as they might be, 381 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 1: especially at safety, doesn't matter because no one can cover 382 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: for five, six, seven, eight seconds. 383 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: Right and again, it's like, yeah, the safeties, we know 384 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: we have trust in the safeties, right, I think people 385 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: have trust even in Isaiah Zimmons coming in, which from 386 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: what we've seen in the open practices, look like he's 387 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 3: gonna come in as the nickel. When when the Cardinals 388 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: have one linebacker and then it's when they've had two 389 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 3: linebackers come out there, it's usually been Kaiser Why and 390 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 3: maybe a Josh Woods. That's when Isaiah leaves the field. 391 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: But I mean, even looking at cornerbacks in the coverage, 392 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 3: I feel I think I was talking to you about 393 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: this the other day at practice. On the field, it's 394 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 3: you know, I feel confident that Marco Wilson can make 395 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 3: that jump as you're starting cornerback. It's intriguing to me 396 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: of what this coaching staff sees at Antonio. Hamilton is 397 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 3: getting more reps on the third string as opposed to 398 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 3: being a starter or even like second string cornerback, which 399 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: he's getting a few, but a lot of those third 400 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: team reps. But having Christian Matthew has been the starting 401 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 3: cornerback opposite of Marco Wilson, which was interesting to me. 402 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: Again a player who this time last year was already 403 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 3: wearing the pads for being a little grabby, and like 404 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 3: I said, the one on ones on practice Tuesday with 405 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 3: Michael Wilson again had his hands all over him. So 406 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 3: it's it's it's a question mark for me for sure 407 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 3: on who's going to be your second starting cornerback. 408 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: What you like about Matthew is his length six ' 409 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 1: two one ninety five. Key Treill Clark, your sixth round pick, 410 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 1: has been getting consistent first and or second team reps. 411 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: And that's someone that I was not expecting a whole 412 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: lot from just because of where he was drafted. Late 413 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: on Day three, Garrett Williams I have seen on the sideline, 414 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: not yet in uniform, but he does seem to be 415 00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: maybe closer. And then again, this is just me reading 416 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: the tea leaves as far as how was that ACL 417 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: recovery that he suffered a year ago in Syracuse. Can 418 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: he get back on the football field sometime here at 419 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: State Farm Stadium, not back in Tempe or in Minnesota, 420 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 1: but here at State Farm Stadium and then perhaps play 421 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: his way back into the rotation. Yeah. 422 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 3: Again, a lot of question marks of these rookies that 423 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 3: you know you with what you would expect from how 424 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 3: they performed in college, and you know, assuming the transition 425 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: into the NFL, rookies that could come in and make 426 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: an impact and be first or second string, but dealing 427 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 3: with an injury and having to be careful, just it 428 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: changes the way you build a team. 429 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: One more rookie to discuss, and that is the quarterback 430 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: Clayton Tune, who on Tuesday we did see work behind 431 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: the first team offense. He got his regular reps with 432 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: the second team, and that is someone that has certainly 433 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 1: captured a lot of people's attention. With Kyler Murray on 434 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 1: the sideline, not sure when he will be back, and 435 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: then Colt McCoy, I still believe, and I'm gonna say 436 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: one hundred percent Colt McCoy is your starter week one. 437 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: But there seems to be this ground swell with Clayton 438 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: Tune and more and more people want to see him, 439 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: And yes, I'm intrigued. I just think that is so 440 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: much to put on someone's plate as a fifth round 441 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, let alone a first or second round rookie quarterback. 442 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: I mean, there's no there's no way I'm telling you 443 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 3: that right now, there's no way Clayton toon is starting 444 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 3: the regular season over Colt McCoy if they are both 445 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 3: equally healthy. I mean, that's just Colt has so much 446 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 3: more experience and understanding of so much more about the 447 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 3: game at this level. You're right, I honestly really think 448 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,199 Speaker 3: that's fair to put a rookie drafted that late, a 449 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback in that position. It is great, though. It 450 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 3: is great that it seems like he's earned that spot 451 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 3: right now, as you know, QB two behind Colt McCoy 452 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 3: with Kyler Murray still sidelined, And that's that's what you 453 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: want if you're going to draft quarterback. You want him 454 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: to be able right to probably draft him for the 455 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: future and have him be Kyler Murray's backup moving forward. 456 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 3: I think it's also partially of you got to start 457 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: mixing guys, right. You can't just have the starters only 458 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 3: practice with the starters and seconds, You're right, because that's 459 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 3: not how the regular season is going to pan out. 460 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 3: So I think we're starting to see a little bit 461 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 3: of that combination, right, mixing people around, and I think 462 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 3: that's probably what we were seeing with some of the 463 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: Clayton tune. But to me, it makes it really just 464 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 3: doesn't make it as to why you want to start 465 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: a rookie quarterback and then try and get Kyler right. 466 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 3: You're trying to keep yourself afloat, and I think Cole 467 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 3: mcguig g iss you a better chance to do that 468 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: than starting Clinton Tune. 469 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: Now you say that, I say that. We heard from 470 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: GM Anti Austin Ford after practice and he was very 471 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: complimentary of Tune. He has approached training camp quote like 472 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 1: a pro. Fun to see him grow, and the early 473 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: looks quote have been promising. Now people can read into 474 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: that as you wish you're asked a question as a 475 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: general manager, you're giving of a response. But it does 476 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: seem like they won. They drafted him for a reason 477 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: and then two he's made them look good so far. 478 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: But it is well early, not only in his career, 479 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: but training camp here. 480 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean again, that's what you would want at 481 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 3: this point is quarterback who seems like he's putting in 482 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 3: the work on and off the field and be prepared 483 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 3: and have already earned that spot behind again QB one 484 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 3: at the moment. And but there's still a lot to learn, 485 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: There's still a lot of football to be not necessarily played. 486 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 3: But I guess practice right and through preseason games, and 487 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: I think those preseason games are where we're going to 488 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 3: learn a lot about how this coaching staff in front 489 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 3: office even views the quarterback battle behind Colt McCoy. 490 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: Did it strike you as odd the number of questions 491 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 1: Moni got about twenty twenty four and the number of 492 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: draft picks and the potential of picking a high or. 493 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: Quarterback or what position there. Yes, that did strike me 494 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 3: as odd in his press conference, considering in fact we're 495 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 3: at training camp and we're far ways away from from 496 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: the draft, and it's also like, i mean, come on, like, 497 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 3: do you really think your general manager is going to 498 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 3: answer the question of yeah, I'm really going to start 499 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 3: looking at drafting a quarterback aka special quarterback out of 500 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 3: the West Coast who's now spending time with the former 501 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: head coach of the Arizona Cardinals. I mean, all but 502 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 3: saying Caleb Williams's name, right, I mean, we're not going 503 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: to hear that, especially this far away from the draft 504 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 3: and when everyone is focused on this seas and the 505 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 3: players on this team. Yeah, it was a little strange 506 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 3: to me. 507 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: I love Moni's response quote, I'm just trying to get 508 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: through Tuesday when asked about what may or may not 509 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,320 Speaker 1: be on the table with respects to next year's drive, 510 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: I understand it from a fan perspective, even in the media, 511 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: And yes, you have the opportunity to talk to the 512 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: general manager during training camp, which since I've been covering 513 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: this team, Danny, and that goes well back to two thousand, 514 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: the general manager, to my knowledge at least my immediate recollection, 515 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: has never addressed the local media during training camp. So 516 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: props the money for speaking, and I understand that. Yeah, 517 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: we're all curious, but I mean, these twenty twenty three 518 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: rookies haven't even completed their first year yet, and we're 519 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: already we're already looking ahead at twenty twenty four and 520 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: the eleven picks if you include the one cop pick 521 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: that's projected. So it did strike me as a little 522 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 1: odd as opposed to, why are we just focusing on 523 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: the roster right now? I'll and perhaps the decisions that 524 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: need to be made at certain positions or contracts or whatever. 525 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, there were three or four questions and some 526 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: follow up questions like what can we just play twenty 527 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: twenty three and then deal with twenty twenty four? When 528 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 1: we get there. 529 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 3: All right, see how everyone pans out. Let's see what 530 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 3: we've got, and then we'll talk about the draft after 531 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 3: the season. 532 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: Anything else stand out on Tuesday, Danny outside again of 533 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: the brilliantly written press release that I just focused and 534 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: and the other thing is because you know via the 535 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: mailbag it's not Team Reporter Danny Shrek, it's the great 536 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: Danny Shrek and that and that was not parts of 537 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: the press release. So I didn't know if you could 538 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: certainly know that it was not Darren who wrote the 539 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: press release or myself that wrote the press release. 540 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 3: And we talk about high expectations for the players the 541 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: way you and Darren talk about me, she's high expectations. 542 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: Well, you are part of the Emmy Award winning Cardinals 543 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: broadcast network. 544 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: So right, yes, But. 545 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: And you are not a rookie. We're not talking about 546 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: we're not talking about your replacement a year from now 547 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: or two years from now. 548 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 3: Gosh, Craig, geez, Louise. I'm gonna I'm gonna take a 549 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 3: page from Monty's book and say, I'm just trying to 550 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 3: get through what is today Tuesday, Come on, bird. 551 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: Gang, write it down. Friday, August eleventh, make sure you're 552 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: in front of your television set six thirty pre games 553 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,239 Speaker 1: seven pm kickoff on twelve News. For those that are 554 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: listening out of the area, just hope that the NFL 555 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: network is carrying it live, which they are on that 556 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: first game, or you catch the replay down the road. 557 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 3: Should be a fun time and at least like we'll 558 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 3: be indoors with roof in all three games, so. 559 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: You're the only one that cares about any of that. 560 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm always indoors. Oh. 561 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: I learned in Tennessee. It was so human, It was 562 00:28:54,800 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: so human. Yeah, I'm very grateful for all three preseason games. 563 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: Three games. Yeah, and then I'll be totally fine with 564 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: weather for games until we hit December. 565 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: What happens if Calvic misses a game or has to 566 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: miss and you've got to go to Philadelphia or Chicago, 567 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 1: and well, that's. 568 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing is I've you know, when we 569 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: normally have to kind of rotate rolls on the broadcast side, 570 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: it's usually on the Christmas or Christmas Eve game when 571 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 3: Paul heads up to the booth and I fill in 572 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 3: for Paul down the sideline for radio, and I believe 573 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 3: the Christmas Eve game is in the Windy City and 574 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 3: lovely Chicago, beautiful place to visit at the end of December. 575 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: I'm already looking forward to it. 576 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: Talk about looking too far ahead here, Yeah, all right, well, 577 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: I'll let you get back to your prep for a 578 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: week from Friday. It will be here before you know it. 579 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: Again Emmy Award winning Cardinals Broadcast Network featuring Danny Shrek. 580 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on 581 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Yundai, proud 582 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to 583 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Amro also our associate producer Cody Fincher. 584 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: For Danny Sirek, I'm praigrial Lou. We'll talk to you 585 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two.