1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: M m h. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Wrestling 2 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: with Freddy. And when this podcast started, a lot of 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: you know, I've talked about surfing and catching waves. I 4 00:00:14,160 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: wanted to have a very open mind and it was 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: basically just gonna be story time with Freddy and maybe 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: a couple of my friends. But as I've been doing 7 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: this podcast, my passion for wrestling has been growing and 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: growing and growing. And we've had some more guests. But 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: today's a crazy day because we have not only my 10 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: biggest guest, but someone who as I've watched his career 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: and what he's built grow, I felt a lot of 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: weird connections that I want to get into today. Uh, 13 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the amazing owner and the 14 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: boss of a w Mr Tony Corn, now stuffing up 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: for the mic The Hope of Wrestling with Freddy, Freddie 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: Prince June. Yeah, thank you, Freddy. Thanks for writing me 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 1: on your show. Dude, I appreciate it. Man. I uh, 18 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: this is weird, Like I've had a kind of a 19 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: a crash course and self reflection watching what you've been 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: able to accomplish. So and I'm gonna throw a bunch 21 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: of weird stuff at you and if it doesn't click, 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: you just be like Freddie, you're crazy. But I just 23 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: I feel weird connections to you. And in the following regards, 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: we're both in some sense legacy kids, all right. Our 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: father's accomplished a lot against a whole bunch of odds. Uh. 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: They dealt with their own challenges. Now, my father didn't 27 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: deal with the pressure well at all, and his life 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: ended way too freaking young. Your father dealt with the 29 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: pressure incredibly well and was able to raise a family 30 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: um and do this business. So I know what it's 31 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: like to be a legacy kid. I know the pressures 32 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: of that, and I knew I didn't want to do 33 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: exactly what my father did, but I wanted to show 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: respect to it. So I never got into the stand 35 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: up comedy element of it. But he always wanted to 36 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 1: be a film actor, and so I jumped into that. 37 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: Here you are, and I got to do all this 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: before social media. Here you are. Your father. For those 39 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: who don't know, owns the Jacksonville Jackuars. It's a fairly 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: exclusive club to be an NFL team owner, and you 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: have to be test a smidge successful to be able 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: to pull it off. So you're dealing with not only 43 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: that kind of pressure, but your post social media not 44 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: post you're in social media, we're in we're in DS 45 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: during social media, and that pressure is a global pressure. 46 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: What have you found to be And I will get 47 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: into the beginnings of this in a minute, but this 48 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: was the most important thing to me, So I just 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: wanted to make sure we hit it. What have been 50 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: the challenges or what are the things you thought would 51 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: be challenges that were easy? What were the things you 52 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: thought would be easy that were really hard? Um? Can 53 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: you just jump into all that and take as much 54 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: time as you want. The biggest things to me were 55 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: I think And you've worked in the wrestling business, Freddie, 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: so you know that when you get in your kind 57 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: of learning from the ground up because you have all 58 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: these experiences watching wrestling on television and then you get 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: to work in a company and a lot of what 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: you believe in a fan really translates to the business 61 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of you know, things you're seeing for 62 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the first time when you when you get behind the curtain. Yeah, 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: big time. And for my first show, you know, I 64 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: had big picture ideas, big picture thoughts like, you know, 65 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: I felt really strongly about certain aspects of the card, 66 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: like you know, for example, that Kenny Omega versus Chris Jericho. 67 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: I really felt like I had to be the first 68 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: main event um that had done huge business for New 69 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: Japan as the main event of the Dome Show a 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: year prior, and I really felt like that was a 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: big part of my business case was seeing how successful 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: that show had been around the world and knowing that 73 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: bringing that to America, American pay per view, there would 74 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: be an audience for that match. That's an old school philosophy, though, 75 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 1: Like that's old school, Like, hey, Morocco Snooka did great 76 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: business over here, Let's bring that over here. That's old 77 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: That's pretty old school, man. A lot of my philosophies 78 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 1: really are as we talk, you'll see. I think a 79 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: lot of it is that way, Like you know, the 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: way we've we've run the business and routing the tours, 81 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: trying or you know, make the most of what we 82 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 1: got uh service very well through the pandemic. I think 83 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: that might set and and ran the business like a 84 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: territory for a long time and then you know, managed 85 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: to build a developmental component out of it too. Dark 86 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: because we had daily place, we had the crew, we 87 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: had wrestlers, and there's so many wrestlers around Florida and 88 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: Georgia driving distance that wanted to come in and work. 89 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: I follow most of them on Instagram. I mean they 90 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: literally are like, I'm going to do Dark. I'm getting 91 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: in the car right now, Like I've literally seen this happen. 92 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 1: It was great, and a lot of a lot of 93 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: those people then became featured wrestlers now on my Granted, 94 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: you know from the beginning, UM, I was entering it 95 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: as similar to you of an educated wrestling fans, and uh, 96 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: put a business plan together from the beginning. UM so 97 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,799 Speaker 1: as far as like challenges that like you have ideas 98 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: that are great ideas. And there's a big difference between 99 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: booking on paper and booking in real life because you're 100 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: dealing with like, actual human beings and it's very different 101 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: dealing with people than dealing with like wrestlers on paper 102 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: or in your imagination. UH. And similar in sports to 103 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: my experience is working in football, like for example, as 104 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: the Gentleman is your film, working with the players and 105 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: their contracts, sitting down with scouts and coaches, evaluating talent, 106 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 1: I think that gave me a lot of good operation 107 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: to come in. So my experience in a sports business, 108 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: combined with a lifelong fandom of wrestling, I think served 109 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: me well. The thing I probably wasn't prepared for at 110 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: first the first several months was getting my hands around 111 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: doing everything. I don't think anybody ever expected me to 112 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: get so organized. Well, let's so let's jump it. Let's 113 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: jump into that deeper, okay, because look, I tried to 114 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: run a show, right. I had a sitcom back in 115 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: the day. It lasted one season, and it lasted one 116 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: season because I tried to do everything all right. So 117 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: now some people can do this. Their brains are just 118 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: wired that way. I'm left handed, so I'm more right brained, 119 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: so I cannot. Okay, So I it's a this is 120 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: a this is a tricky thing because I was gonna 121 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: ask you, like I'm friends with or friendly with Junie Buss, 122 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: and so I've spoken to her about how she what 123 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: things she takes over versus how her dad approached things. 124 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: Her dad was very much about designating responsibility. What I've 125 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,960 Speaker 1: heard and where I think you're about to go is 126 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: you're in especially in the at least in the beginning 127 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: phases of this you want hands on everything? Is that correct? 128 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: I was not hands on about every I was over 129 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: seeing everything, but it was probably more of a collaborative 130 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: thing the first several months, and I just felt like 131 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: it wasn't was it organized as I would like it 132 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: to be. We had risen to such great heights and 133 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,160 Speaker 1: it's such a great opportunity, and it was all so close. 134 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: And at the end of you know, we launched the show, 135 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: had a huge debut, did really good ratings, and now 136 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: doing really great ratings these past few years. But after 137 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: the first two months or so, uh maybe maybe even 138 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: after the first six seven weeks, started to see it 139 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: dip UM and I think it was probably around late 140 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: November into December and continued through December, and it was 141 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: a trend and I didn't like the way the ratings 142 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: were going, and clearly the way the ratings are going 143 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: were reflecting that the fans didn't. You know, I didn't 144 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: like the direction I was going where we were going, 145 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: and so I made a lot of changes, uh, going 146 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: into that, I felt really good about UM in terms 147 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: of being more organized and just you know, uh doing 148 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: it all shows by hands and they've been a lot 149 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: of you know, more focused, and uh, it's it's great 150 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: having like lots of ideas coming from lots of different places. 151 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: And I do utilize and have lots of different contributors 152 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: bringing ideas to the table. But um, it's just hard. 153 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Like you've been in those writers, they're brutal, so it 154 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: can be very difficult. I mean, I was the kind 155 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: of guy I could handle about, you know, five or 156 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: six storylines on my plate before the work would start 157 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: to suffer. But you're getting pitched forty fifty things a week, 158 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: so you know, it's like you're going to SNL and 159 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we have fifty sketches. Don't worry about 160 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: memorizing all of them, but please memorize mine. And it's 161 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: every talent coming in with their ideas, right, and you're 162 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: the host. You're like, yo, I've never done this. You 163 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: do this every week, like we have to find a 164 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: common ground here. So what I've seen you pull off 165 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: has been nothing short of impressive to me. And and 166 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna take criticism no matter what because it's art. 167 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: So the critics are right as much as the fans 168 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: are right, because we're all conditioned to enjoy things based 169 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: on how we were raised and and how we interpret information. 170 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: There's types of TV series now that give you everything 171 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: in the pilot, and when I was a kid, they 172 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: made you wait, but with binging shows they don't anymore, 173 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: so that the style has changed. But that's not my thing. 174 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: I don't go around crapping on it. I just know 175 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: what I like, so I'll just go watch Clue the 176 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 1: movie or something like that great movie. So you know 177 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: every every single work, Yeah, me too. I'm not handid 178 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: and I know every word of yo. So here's the 179 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: side quest real quick. When we were doing I Know 180 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: You did last summer, we were in North Carolina and 181 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: Madeline Khan, who was Mrs White, was in the bungalow 182 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: next to me, and I was cooking food and it 183 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: was gonna be for the cast, and Madeleine Khan literally goes, 184 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: whatever you'll smelling or whatever you're cooking smells marvelous, darling, 185 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 1: and I went, oh my god, thank you so much. 186 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: And she came to this little white picket fence we 187 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: were staying in these cottages and she goes, I'm coming 188 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: to have dinner with you, and I legit snubbed the 189 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: whole rest of the cast and had dinner with Madeline, 190 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: who I was completely in love with, a total crush 191 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: on her. It was like a Portobello mushroom pop. My 192 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: mom was a chef. She talked about a cook and 193 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: the cast didn't even talk to my white My future 194 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: wife didn't even talk to me the next day. And 195 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: it's all Madeline cons fault. But I didn't care, and 196 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: I love her and I love her in that movie 197 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: when she's like flames on the side of my face, 198 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: he's greatest anyway, side quest over her and Tim Curry 199 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: had all the best dialogue in that movie. There was 200 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: an animated Star Wars show called The Clone Wars, and 201 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 1: he did in the final season. He was the I 202 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: don't know people are supposed to know that, but yeah, 203 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: he was the Emperor's voice. I didn't know that. Yeah, 204 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: they played with it a little bit. But his acting 205 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: is so sick that people like, yeah, we're good, so okay. 206 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: Howard Hessman passed away recently. Uh you know, he played uh, 207 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: the religious guy who turns out to be an undercover 208 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: top at the end The Kingdom of Heaven Is Real. 209 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 1: Had to hold back. I was like wrestling plans aren't 210 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: gonna get this, but I wanted to post. I can't 211 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: believe the clue just got us to this. This is amazing. 212 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: Clue was huge in the wrestling business, like so many 213 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: people in wrestling wealth Clue. Did you know that it 214 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: they played different endings in different theaters all across the country. 215 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 1: They should have been and that's why the movie bombed 216 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: in theaters that they didn't get people all three. So 217 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: satisfying to see the three endings. But is you you're 218 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: such a clooner. This is amazing. So Howard has been 219 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:09,599 Speaker 1: passed away, and I should have done it if I 220 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: wanted to post the meme of like him saying like 221 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand, because I thought 222 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: that would be really appropriate set off for Howard Hussement. 223 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: You're allowed to meme whatever you want. Man, you don't 224 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: have to worry about that. It's out of respect. You know, 225 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: it's not like you're slandering the good man. People don't 226 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: get stuff. I don't know. I should have done it, 227 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: So Howard Custment, I want, I wanted to do it. 228 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: I should have done it. He was great in w 229 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: therapy Cincinnati. Yes, absolutely, that's great. So he that is one. 230 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: The other thing that he just reminded me of with 231 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: Tim Curry is uh the Emperor, you know, the in 232 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: the actual movie Game McDermott. I had never seen him 233 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: in another movie until this weekend Winbert passed away. Wait wait, 234 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: oh yeah he did. And I've never seen Rky Park 235 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: and I've heard it's good. So I watched Roky Park 236 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 1: and it's really good, except that, like it's one of 237 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: those things where like all the Russian acts there, all 238 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: the Russian characters are played by British actors, so it's 239 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: like Star Wars where it's just like all the homes 240 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: of British vilains, but the Russian and and all the 241 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: all the Romans in movies are English as well. It 242 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: always works out like that. They got they got a 243 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Scottish Russian once with Sean Connery, but he just he 244 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 1: basically says fuck it in the pirst scene and does 245 00:13:20,320 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: his own thing in Entreet October. That's so true. Yeah, 246 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: and he's got a great wig too. That's a power wig. Man. 247 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: When I tell my hair, it kind of gets that 248 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: like Kevin Nash, Sean Connery, Red October looked to it. 249 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: It's pretty hot and we just we just lost you know, 250 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: William heard and I had never seen him Mcgermand in 251 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: another movie, but he was in the working park and 252 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: he plays like this Russian professor with a British accent. 253 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: Does it take you out of it knowing he's the emperor? 254 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: Was the role? That was the Emperor's role? That impactful 255 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 1: that you're almost like or was it? Okay? It's a 256 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: pretty crazy pay a pretty crazy character. He's like the 257 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: scientist who like, uh, like, you know, I don't want 258 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,199 Speaker 1: to spoil that. I don't know. I haven't seen it yet, 259 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: so for sure I liked it. I wanted to go 260 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,320 Speaker 1: back and watch something with blame hurt. I hadn't seen 261 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: a free pass and I rarely get free time to 262 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: do anything, and I had a couple of hours, so 263 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: I watched it. So so we had so much in comment, 264 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: as we've established here. Uh so, yeah, man, I want 265 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: to get back into this, Like and you said this earlier. 266 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: You you were basically learning on the job with a 267 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: hyper amount of success right away, but still having to 268 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: learn valuable and sometimes rough asked lessons I had. I 269 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: was a rocket ship, like from my first little job, 270 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I was doing movies, movies, movies, 271 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: but I was so green that I always felt like 272 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: I wanted to redo every single scene by the time 273 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: the movie was over, because I felt like I was 274 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: a better actor, but I was getting to work with 275 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: like legends, right, So I tried to sponge it. And 276 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: I always hated everything I did early in career to 277 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: the point where I don' I've only seen three movies 278 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: I've been into my life because I always felt like 279 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: I wanted to change everything. Did you go through something 280 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: like that or is it just you have to steam 281 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: roll and be like throwing away every week. I still 282 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: go through that every like at the end of every week, 283 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: at the end of every taping. It's rare, like like 284 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: revolution all out. There are times where like it's just 285 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: so perfect that you come out the original Revolution. There 286 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: have been times where like you you're done with it, 287 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 1: and you're like, that could not have gone any better. 288 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: Let's celebrate one of the greatest nights we're ever gonna have. 289 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: But more, you know, we've done a twenty seven episode 290 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: to Dynamite and thirty something episodes a rampage, and a 291 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: lot of times when I come out of TV, even 292 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: though even some of the ones that have been the 293 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: best received, most popular shows, there's like one thing I 294 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: want to have back, And I'm just like banging my 295 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: head and ripping my hair and yelling at myself, like 296 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: what was I thinking just about one thing? You know, 297 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: like you could have flipped these two segments around. Um, 298 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: you know, I would have probably put this later in 299 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: the show, or I could have maybe held the rating 300 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: up higher if I go on with these is the 301 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: lead segments. So I think about that stuff all the 302 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: time and beat myself up. But I would also rather 303 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: beat myself up than beat anyone else stuff Again, like 304 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: a lot of it lives in my head. It's one 305 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: of the reasons why we don't have as much leaking 306 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: of surprises their secrets and stuff, because like it all 307 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: right here anyway. So you know. So it was a 308 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: lot of learning on the job, and I think there 309 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 1: was like a big moment. We only lost the demo once, 310 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: like we went I think we're head to head with 311 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: nx SKI for like seventy six weeks, and we went 312 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: like seventy five and one in the demo and the 313 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: work where the one was the one to reset me. 314 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: We have been losing the overall number, which was not 315 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: the number of the network tired as much. You know 316 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: that the number that was like the lead number on 317 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: the report that they would talk to us about, like 318 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: the actual scoreline lead to week number eighteen forty nine 319 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: that they focused on. But also you know, looking at 320 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: the total viewers in December, we were losing it the 321 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: total viewers, but we were still holding out to the demo, 322 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: and I I dropped. I quit being in denial when 323 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: we lost the demo. And then it's the only week 324 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: off I've ever had since we started. This is Christmas 325 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, because we've done a show every single week 326 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: since October two often except for Christmas twenty nineteen, we 327 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: were off because it was Christmas Day. We didn't do 328 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: a show that day. How is your brain allowing you 329 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: to step away or did your brain make it? Did 330 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 1: someone tell you, hey, man, take a week? Did you 331 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: need to do? Like what what's going on? And tell myself? 332 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: Like you know those things you do and you know 333 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: firstanding I know you all know exact what I'm talking about, 334 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: Like you know, and like there's something you don't believe 335 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: in and you're like I'm just gonna do it because 336 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: like made it right. And and then like by the 337 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: end of that first year, at the end of twenty nineteen, 338 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: we did do in the show for like three months 339 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: and it just felt like I had that moment. I 340 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna do anything anymore. I don't 341 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: believe in And and then like you know how you 342 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: sat like in New Years Resolution like that, like and 343 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, going into this New Year, we 344 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,679 Speaker 1: get this. Christmas all of New Year's Day was one 345 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: of the best shows we've ever gone, and not just 346 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: because of everyone involved, Like you know, the wrestling was 347 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: off the charts and everybody brought it. There was such 348 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,439 Speaker 1: a We had a huge main event with the arm 349 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 1: Bucks and Kenny Omega versus Pack and the Looser Brothers 350 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: before they became the Death Drawing Gold but but as 351 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: a trio that was originally supposed to be the Fighter 352 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: in Festimating then in the first Fighter in fest foot 353 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: Pack at a Visa issue and so arrato, kid, I 354 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: love Pack by the way, I he look, you have 355 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: some guys and some girls that can talk, that can 356 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: talk to the point where I don't believe you're you're 357 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: you use writers I don't believe you do. Um. I 358 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: was always I have always agreed with this is weird 359 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: for me to say it, but I always agreed with 360 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: this philosophy. I felt I should only be there for 361 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: the people who can't write their own promote that you 362 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: won't get a mouthpiece four. So that was sort of 363 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: my approach was, Okay, you're not a talker, let me. 364 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 1: And there was one time I won't say the wrestler, 365 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: but I put an ear piece in his ear, just 366 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 1: like Marlon Brando used to do, and I in backstage 367 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: read him line for line how to cut it the emotion. 368 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: But because he literally, he goes, bro, I'm a robot, 369 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: just tell me how to do it. And I'm like, 370 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: you gottah. He's I can't memorize this, but if you 371 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: tell me how to say it, I'll say it. And 372 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: I was like, let me think of something. And so 373 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: we went to magic and I was like, can I 374 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: get like an earpiece? They go, we don't have that here, 375 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: but we can get you one from the truck, and 376 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: they grabbed me an earpiece and we stuck a little. 377 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: The tiny little receiver is here, not the one with 378 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: like the loop or anything. Just a tiny receiver. And 379 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 1: I was in Guerrilla and just cutting lines, telling him 380 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: and telling him good job, Like I even screwed him 381 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: up one time. I was like, that was really nice, 382 00:19:58,320 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: and he kind of like smiled and I was like, 383 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I've never done it. I've never done 384 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: that before. But yeah, so you have, so you do 385 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: have some talkers. And that leads me to somebody. Oh 386 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: I absolutely fell in love with because I hate him 387 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: um and he needed to get beat up. But to me, 388 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: he is not only the future, but the right now. 389 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: And that's m JF. You guys told a story with 390 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: him and Punk that was so the opposite of the 391 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: stories being told in mainstream wrestling right now. You took 392 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 1: your time. It lacks it's nothing felt rushed. You didn't 393 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: give anything away. And he wore a white suit. He 394 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: wore a I literally when I saw that Punk had 395 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: the white teacher, he had the white suit. I told him. 396 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: A fan of horror movies, I was like, oh, there 397 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: will be blood, and that's such a beautiful representation. Like 398 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: I've said this and you'll you'll click with this. I 399 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: think I've a He's felt wrestling is the purest form 400 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: of art because it's the literal blood, sweat and tears 401 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 1: on an actual canvas, and it's that's Jackson Pollock. Man, 402 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,160 Speaker 1: Like that to me is what those bloody, those bloody 403 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: matches are. It's Jackson Pollock. And he wasn't for everyone, 404 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 1: but he's what made modern American artists respectable around the 405 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,119 Speaker 1: world was because of him and his willingness to just 406 00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: sort of vomit his emotions on a canvas, which is 407 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 1: what it was compared to by his critics, but it 408 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: literally set American contemporary art on a whole new level 409 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: that rested on his and a handful of other artists shoulders. 410 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: But Ed Harris played him, so he gets to be 411 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: the most famous one. Um, you guys, Sorry, you guys, 412 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: that's the cynical side of me sneaking in once in 413 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: a while. Um, you guys have something. And I call 414 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: him JF one of the pillars of A. E. W. Right. 415 00:21:54,440 --> 00:22:00,400 Speaker 1: He is ten years from now when he's still there, 416 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: and it's probably gonna be the highest paid wrestler on 417 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: the face of the planet. He is going to be 418 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: one of those guys that you're building multiple at least 419 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: this is my opinion, multiple, multiple men off of where 420 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: And I already saw it with Wardlowe just for a second, 421 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: like where it was just like he's been a robot 422 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: and now he's vulnerable for the first time and he's 423 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 1: actually like expressing himself with some vulnerability. And I was like, 424 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: if they pulled it off on their first try, like 425 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: on their first try, a man, hallelujah. But I honestly 426 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: feel you guys are on such a great path. I 427 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: know you can't blow too much smoke at this kid, 428 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 1: but can you just talk about m JF Where you 429 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: found him, who helped you get eyeballs on him? Where 430 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: was the first? Like if you're cool talking about that stuff. 431 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: The first time I saw him was on MLW and uh, 432 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: I was watching MLW that summer team. It was really 433 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: big for me. The only people that really first took 434 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: this seriously were Matt Jackson and Chris Yech and I 435 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: talked to both of them almost every day and uh 436 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,639 Speaker 1: and from the air they brought in a lot of 437 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: other really good people like obviously Matt rod Nick his 438 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: brother and his white Gana runs our merchandise and she's 439 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 1: a big part of the company too, And then obviously 440 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: with Kenny with Kenny Omega, Tody Rhodes. You know when 441 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: I want to talk to Matt. I wanted to get 442 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: the Bullet Club together, especially inarticular the Elite with Matt 443 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: and Nick and Kenny, which I thought it was the 444 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: best trio in the world. And I really saw Teddy 445 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: coming in as a singles headliner and Matt Nick as 446 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: the top tag team, and I wanted to get Jericho 447 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: and the business case. I knew there were a couple 448 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: of things happening and not so, so let me go 449 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: back to MJF who was the person you've asked about, 450 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: And that's the reson I'm focusing on here. But but 451 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: that's the way I found him was on MLW. I 452 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: was watching a ton of wrestling and other people like 453 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: him too. Like once I started talking to so, he 454 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: brought up that he thought would be great. Um. But 455 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: in my scouting, he was one of the first people 456 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 1: I saw outside of that group of names I just mentioned, 457 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,679 Speaker 1: uh And and Trent, Trent Bratta would be people that 458 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: remember Trent Dode. You want to side quest real quick? Okay. 459 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: It was my second stint a w W E and 460 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: I'm just running basically an acting class. Okay, so the 461 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,439 Speaker 1: same techniques that we would do, like repetition, we're saying, Tony, 462 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: it's a pleasure to meet you. You're locked into those words. 463 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: You can go it's a pleasure to meet me. It's 464 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: a pleasure to meet and we go back and forth 465 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: until someone feels so stupid I have to change the line. 466 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: Whoever changes the line to loses right. So we would 467 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: do all this stuff like MS would kill it, that 468 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, because he's just like, f you, let's go. 469 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: But Trent was in there with with with a J 470 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: and um Mendes and they were going to do repetition, 471 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: and he was I don't remember what his name was 472 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: back then. They gave him a terrible name, as they 473 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: do sometimes, but I don't think so. I think it 474 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 1: was I don't think so Bretta is cool, but it's like, 475 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: what's that FCW. So they came up and they did 476 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: a repetition, but it was Pokemon, and I had never 477 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was too old, I didn't 478 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: know what Pokemon was. So he goes something like, hey, 479 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: that's a that's a sweet, right you or something like that, 480 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: and she goes, that's a sweet right and it's going 481 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 1: back and forth, and I literally look over to Big 482 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 1: Show and Cardona and I went, what the fund is 483 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 1: it right you? And and Big Show pop too loud. 484 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 1: I go, you guys, what are you talking about right now? 485 00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: And it was literally, we're going back with the bottom Pokemon. 486 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 1: That was my introduction to Pokemon. And then A j 487 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,399 Speaker 1: went on to become a freaking world champion after I left, 488 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: and then a best selling freaking author. And now she's 489 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: about to take over Hollywood and she's now running another 490 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 1: wrestling She's gonna run Wow. I don't know if that's public, 491 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: but she's gonna run Women of Wrestling. And she's written 492 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: some scripts that aren't announced yet, but one of them 493 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: is going to be and it's like with the biggest 494 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: freaking director in the world man, So she's killing it. 495 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: So she's also left handed and she's also right brain, 496 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: just like us. So shout out to to all the 497 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: south Paws in the world right now, everybody. Thanks for 498 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: listening to Part one of the Tony con Interview. Tune 499 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: in next week for the conclusion, aptly named Part two. 500 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: This has been a production of I Hearts Michael podcast Network. 501 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: For more podcasts for My Heart Radio Hop, visit the 502 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: I heart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen 503 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: to your favorite show. H