WEBVTT - Border Czar Tom Homan - Exclusive One on One

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. Ben Ferguson with you, Senator.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the best things about getting to do this

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<v Speaker 2>show is having on brilliant minds from within the administration

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<v Speaker 2>who get to talk directly the American people. And today

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<v Speaker 2>we get to have another very special guest, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Good friend of yours.

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<v Speaker 2>The Borders Are is joining us and I'll let you

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<v Speaker 2>take it from there.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Tom Homan is serving as President Trump's Borders Are.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the former acting director of the US Immigration

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<v Speaker 3>and Customs Enforcement and he has been borders Are since

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<v Speaker 3>Trump resumed office as president. His formal title, which I like,

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<v Speaker 3>is what White House Executive Associate Director of Enforcement and

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<v Speaker 3>Removal Operations. And to be clear, his job is to

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<v Speaker 3>secure the border, keep US safe, and remove dangerous illegal aliens.

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<v Speaker 3>He's doing a hell of a job. Tom, Welcome to Verdict.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's start with just how are we doing?

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<v Speaker 3>And we're four months in, almost five months into the

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<v Speaker 3>Trump presidency. How are we doing? Tell us what has

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<v Speaker 3>happened since President Trump became president again?

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<v Speaker 1>On the border?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, President Trump today, where I'm talking to today san

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<v Speaker 4>Or the Cruz. We have the most secure border in

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<v Speaker 4>the history of this nation. Today, the most secure board ever.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean we even beat Trump forty five. Well, we

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<v Speaker 4>hand the Biden administration's most secure boarder ever ahead of

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<v Speaker 4>that time. But the Dad is even better now. And

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<v Speaker 4>let me give you a few numbers, just a few numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>Under Biden administration, we were dealing with ten eleven thousand,

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<v Speaker 4>even a few times fifteen thousand aliens to day yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>it was two hundred and eleven. We went from thirteen

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<v Speaker 4>fourteen thousand to two hundred and eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's across the entire southwest border.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, gotaways under Biden an average gotaway day and under

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<v Speaker 4>Biden was eighteen hundred plus eighteen hundred plus got aways

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday thirty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>And then the most impressive number the first one hundred

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<v Speaker 4>days on President Trump compared to the first the same

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<v Speaker 4>time period last year under Biden, Biden released over one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and eighty four thousand illegal animates in this country.

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<v Speaker 4>The Trump administration one there was nine releases. But for

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<v Speaker 4>more material witnesses. As you know, we want them to

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<v Speaker 4>come here to testifying the Carpol troal so form we

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<v Speaker 4>want to command four came across the border in such

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<v Speaker 4>bad shape that we had to call an ambulance and

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<v Speaker 4>take care of the medical needs. We had allowment insided

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<v Speaker 4>medical treatment, but we had one one discretionary release compared

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<v Speaker 4>to one hundred and eighty four thousand released under the

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<v Speaker 4>same time period. Are in biden most secure border history

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<v Speaker 4>of nation. Interior enforcement offerings ices arrested three times more

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<v Speaker 4>criminals than Biden did during the same time period. We

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<v Speaker 4>got more to rest, We got many more to rest,

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<v Speaker 4>but they're already hitting the ball out of park. Don't

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<v Speaker 4>keep doing it when you do more of it. And

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<v Speaker 4>we're hoping for a budget real soon here so we

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<v Speaker 4>can step up efforts there. But it's it's game changing.

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump's been a game changer, and the men and women,

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<v Speaker 4>vice and men, women, barb stood up taking on the

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<v Speaker 4>task and cousindent. Trump did in seven weeks, but Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Biden couldn't or wouldn't do in four years.

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<v Speaker 3>My favorite line from from President Trump's most recent State

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<v Speaker 3>of the Union address it is when he said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden stood here a year ago and said that

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<v Speaker 3>he couldn't secure the border without new legislation passing Congress

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<v Speaker 3>and then Trump said, it turns out we didn't need

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<v Speaker 3>new legislation, We just needed a new president and and.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's powerfully true.

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<v Speaker 3>So let me ask just just a simple question for

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<v Speaker 3>those Look, you're you're an immigration expert, but for someone

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<v Speaker 3>at home, how did the numbers drop so precipitously? What

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<v Speaker 3>specifically are y'all doing differently than than what Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris did.

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<v Speaker 4>The biggest thing we've done is a president's executive orders

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<v Speaker 4>that are We're a game changer, remain EXCO a game changer.

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<v Speaker 4>I have the third State Country Agreements a game changer,

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<v Speaker 4>and finally ending catcher release. People know you come to

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<v Speaker 4>a border, now you're not being released, and we're just

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<v Speaker 4>followed the law because, as you know, under federal statue,

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<v Speaker 4>an alien arrives at our border without proper documentation to

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<v Speaker 4>enter the language is you shall be detained. Now maybe

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<v Speaker 4>not thinking about it, not problem shall And that's exactly

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<v Speaker 4>where we're doing. Those street things, by themselves have been

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<v Speaker 4>a major game changer, and all three of them were

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<v Speaker 4>EXCO lords by.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned budget a moment ago and how important it

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<v Speaker 2>is to have the budget for you guys to continue

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<v Speaker 2>your job.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain for everyone listening.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that referencing that the big beautiful bill and what

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<v Speaker 2>is in there that you need so much to continue

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<v Speaker 2>to do your job at the border.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we want to make the border secure permanently, so

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<v Speaker 4>we need more infrastructure, right, so we need to finish

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<v Speaker 4>building that wall. Now, let's be clear, every place they

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<v Speaker 4>build a border barrier, illegal migrations went down, illegal drug

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<v Speaker 4>flow went down, But most important walls save lives. Women

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<v Speaker 4>and children can't get over that wall, the most vulnerable,

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<v Speaker 4>so they go to a place so there's not a

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<v Speaker 4>wall on what's waiting on them the men and women

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<v Speaker 4>of the Borderatrol first of all. So the ball saves lives.

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<v Speaker 4>So we need to finish the border barrier. We need

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<v Speaker 4>money to finish the technology within the existing border wall,

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<v Speaker 4>because not only did President by And stop the construction

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<v Speaker 4>of the wall, he stopped adding the technology in that

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<v Speaker 4>smart wall, technology that lets us know how someone climbs

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<v Speaker 4>that wall, touch this wall, dig under that wall. Technology

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<v Speaker 4>where borbitual agents in the middle of nowhere can get

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<v Speaker 4>on the radio and use the wall as a repeater

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<v Speaker 4>to talk to other agents for help. There are some

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<v Speaker 4>places on the southern border where they lose all community.

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<v Speaker 4>So all that technology needs to be done. More technology yet,

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<v Speaker 4>portive entries to make sure no Ventana's coming through. And

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<v Speaker 4>as far as the entire enforcement, we need beds. Right now.

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<v Speaker 4>We got about fifty two thousand people in detention. We're

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<v Speaker 4>funder that thirty four thousand ICE is already in the hole.

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<v Speaker 4>We need about one hundred thousand beds because everybody we

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<v Speaker 4>arrest needs a bet. We just don't rest abody in

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<v Speaker 4>New York City and put them on a plane leave.

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<v Speaker 4>We got detained for several days or several weeks, to

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<v Speaker 4>get travel doctrines, get flight flight arrangements, flight finances. So

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<v Speaker 4>we need bets. So we need you know, so this budget,

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<v Speaker 4>that depending budget right now, the Big beautiful Bill will

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<v Speaker 4>give us money for those beds. They're going to give

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<v Speaker 4>us thousands of more borbitiacens, thousands more ICE agents. It's

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<v Speaker 4>going to give ICE a budget to bring in more

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<v Speaker 4>contracts up. What I mean by that badgers and guns

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<v Speaker 4>shouldn't be sitting at a desk doing reports of processing.

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<v Speaker 4>They shouldn't be sitting at a desk doing travel documents

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<v Speaker 4>and all the all the administrative duties that occur within ice.

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<v Speaker 4>You can have a contract to sitting there doing that work.

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<v Speaker 4>Give that badging gun, get them out on the street

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<v Speaker 4>to arrest the public safety thrusts and national security threats.

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<v Speaker 4>So we needed the money to Like I said, we're

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<v Speaker 4>doing more than Biden did, but Biden wasn't doing anything.

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<v Speaker 4>We need to do ten times more than buying it too,

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<v Speaker 4>not three times more. And I'll leave you with this.

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<v Speaker 4>We got seven hundred thousand illegal aliens in this country

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<v Speaker 4>with a criminal conviction walking the streets this country. We

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<v Speaker 4>got to get them. We got to get it quickly.

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<v Speaker 4>We got one point four man illegal aliens who do

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<v Speaker 4>have due process, a great taxpayer expense. We're ordered removed

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<v Speaker 4>by a federal judge and didn't leave and they become fusitives.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a lot of work to do, and we

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<v Speaker 4>need money to do more. We're doing good, but more

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<v Speaker 4>money we have, the more we can do well.

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<v Speaker 3>And Ben I'll say this that Congress, we will get

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<v Speaker 3>this Reconciliation bill passed. It's gonna take time, it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be bumpy, but we'll get it done. And when we

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<v Speaker 3>get it done, we're gonna have funding to build the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have funding for technology on the wall. We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have funding for more border patrol agents. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have funding for more ice agents. We're gonna have funding

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<v Speaker 3>for more detention beds. We're gonna have funding for more

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<v Speaker 3>fixed wing and rhetory way aircraft. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 3>funding for more drones and more infrared and technology. We

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<v Speaker 3>are stepping in now. It's going to take a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit of time to get the bill across the finish line,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'm confident we'll do it. And I will say

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<v Speaker 3>it really underscores something we've said on Verdict many times,

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<v Speaker 3>which is the most important factor in securing the border.

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<v Speaker 3>And this is what Tom said just a minute ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a policy decision, and it is a decision

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<v Speaker 3>what happens when you apprehend an illegal immigrant. And if

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<v Speaker 3>the answer is you put them on a plane and

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<v Speaker 3>you fly them back home. They all have cell phones.

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<v Speaker 3>They pick up their phones and they call home and

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<v Speaker 3>they say don't come. They're not letting you stay. And

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<v Speaker 3>the flip side is true if when you apprehend them,

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<v Speaker 3>you let them go. You say what city do you

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<v Speaker 3>want to go to? And you put them on a plane,

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<v Speaker 3>you put them on a bus, and you let them

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<v Speaker 3>go in every city in America, which is what Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden was doing. Again, they all have phones. They pick

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<v Speaker 3>up the phone, they call their friends and family, and

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers skyrocket. And so when President Trump left office

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<v Speaker 3>the first time he had produced the lowest rate of

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<v Speaker 3>illegal immigration in forty five years. That's what Joe Biden inherited.

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<v Speaker 3>It immediately skyrocketed to the worst rate of illegal immigration

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<v Speaker 3>in history. Joe Biden allowed twelve million of the illegal

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<v Speaker 3>immigrants to come into this country. And regular listeners of

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<v Speaker 3>Verdict will recall I predicted, I said, we will see

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers plummet. And it won't take a year, it

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<v Speaker 3>won't even take six months. It will happen immediately, because

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<v Speaker 3>on day one, catch and release is going to end,

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<v Speaker 3>and we're going to see the numbers plummet. Now all

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<v Speaker 3>that being said, Tom, let me ask you honestly, I

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<v Speaker 3>will admit I predicted loudly that the numbers would plummet.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll confess. I didn't think they'd drop over ninety nine percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you I'm surprised at just how massive the success is.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you a little bit surprised or.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I'm not surprised for all the success. I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 4>how fast that happened. When President Trump, when he called me,

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<v Speaker 4>asked me to be the borders our course, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Has Dak came back and the first meeting who he had,

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<v Speaker 4>he asked me, how long will it take you down

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<v Speaker 4>the secure the border? I says, sir, I need I

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<v Speaker 4>need at least one hundred and twenty days. He says, well,

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<v Speaker 4>I get a ninety. I said, sir, I'll respect one

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<v Speaker 4>hundred and twenty days, even pushing that we did this

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<v Speaker 4>in seven weeks. Seven weeks numbers already down. Yep, ninety.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're exactly right. Everything you said is right. But

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<v Speaker 4>I want to add one thing. When Joe Biden opened

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<v Speaker 4>that border up, he's the first president in the history

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<v Speaker 4>of this nation who came into office and unsecured a

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<v Speaker 4>border on purpose. This wasn't mismanagement, this wasn't incompetence. He

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<v Speaker 4>ran on open borders, and that's exactly what he did.

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<v Speaker 4>You know. So when you tell the whole world enter

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<v Speaker 4>the country legally, don't worry about it. We're going to

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<v Speaker 4>release you anyways. And when you got a secondary of

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<v Speaker 4>ma orcust on ice. You can't arrest somebody for being

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<v Speaker 4>here illegally unless they got a serious criminal conviction. The

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<v Speaker 4>whole world's going to come. You can cross the border illegally.

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<v Speaker 4>You get released in twenty four hours. We won't give

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<v Speaker 4>you a free plane ticket to the city of your choice.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to put you in a free hotel room.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to give you three meals a day. We're

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<v Speaker 4>going to give you free medical attention. And guess what,

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<v Speaker 4>hanging out for one hundred and twenty days, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 4>give you a work assization. The very reason they came

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<v Speaker 4>Hery not because of asylum, because they wanted a job. So

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<v Speaker 4>Biden did what he did, I'm purposed, and President Trump

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<v Speaker 4>came back in seven weeks again seven weeks did what

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<v Speaker 4>Joe Biden couldn't do or wouldn't do.

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<v Speaker 3>Repeat the numbers you said about how many illegals are

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<v Speaker 3>in the US right now who have criminal convictions, and

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<v Speaker 3>to be clear, these are convictions for crimes other than

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<v Speaker 3>crossing illegally into the country. Every illegal has committed that crime,

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<v Speaker 3>But how many have convictions for murder, for rape, for

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<v Speaker 3>other crimes other than crossing the border illegally.

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<v Speaker 4>Just under seven hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, that is a stunning number. And what you're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>and I agree with you, is is that Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 3>deliberately chose We're going to leave murderers here, We're going

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<v Speaker 3>to leave rapists in America, We're going to leave child

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<v Speaker 3>molesters in America. We're not going to send ice to

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<v Speaker 3>arrest them, We're not going to pick them up, we're

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<v Speaker 3>not going to deport them. That they put partisan politics

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<v Speaker 3>above protecting American families, about protecting our kids.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why I woke up four years pissed off every morning.

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump when he called me, asked me to come back,

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<v Speaker 4>and he said to me, we've been E've been bitching

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<v Speaker 4>about it for four years. Want to come back and

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<v Speaker 4>fix it. And I did because I knew every morning

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<v Speaker 4>I wake up, and Senator you know this just as

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<v Speaker 4>well as I do. I knew every morning when I

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<v Speaker 4>woke up, how many children died acrossing the borders last night,

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<v Speaker 4>how many women got sexually assaulted. How many people on

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<v Speaker 4>Terrace Roster's got across the border. How many women and

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<v Speaker 4>children were sex traffick in this country? How many billions

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<v Speaker 4>of dollars in the cartels make how many Americans died

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<v Speaker 4>in the last twenty four hours from Fetannah coming across

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<v Speaker 4>the open border for four years, I was pissed off.

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<v Speaker 4>President Trump came back, like I said, in seven weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a border down ninety percent in seven weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, just like you said, it was a

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<v Speaker 4>matter of President the matter enforce the law. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you it's center cruise. And you know, every

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<v Speaker 4>time I seen the meeting, every time I see you

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<v Speaker 4>in the meeting, I call you out. I call you

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<v Speaker 4>out because you've been a tip of the speer on

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<v Speaker 4>this thing. I appreciate your working us. You're from Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, And God bless Governor Abbit. Governor Abbitt did

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<v Speaker 4>he was more of a Secretary of Homeland Security moral

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<v Speaker 4>it's ever been wherever it's thought of being, so, God

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<v Speaker 4>blessed date of Texas. They took the first rail on

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<v Speaker 4>this And again, I can't thank you enough. Every time

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<v Speaker 4>I see I call you out. Thank you for being

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<v Speaker 4>the tip of the spear. I see you everywhere wanting

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<v Speaker 4>the secure border, and you're fighting hard for me, and

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<v Speaker 4>you're fighting hard for the men and women the border

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<v Speaker 4>toe You're fighting hard for the men and women of Ice.

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<v Speaker 4>I love each and every one of those men and

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<v Speaker 4>put their live on line for this country every day,

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<v Speaker 4>men and women, and I appreciate your fight for them.

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<v Speaker 4>You've had their six and day one, and I love

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<v Speaker 4>you for it. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Tom, let me thank you for that. I appreciate that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I appreciate your passion and commitment. You were You're

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<v Speaker 3>showing up, and you said something that I think is

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<v Speaker 3>really important for our listeners to understand. You and President

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<v Speaker 3>Trump right now are quite literally saving lives. You are

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<v Speaker 3>saving lives. There are Americans, and there are significant number

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<v Speaker 3>of Americans who are alive today because a violent criminal

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<v Speaker 3>did not cross the border, was not released, and didn't

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<v Speaker 3>murder them. There are women who have not been raped

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<v Speaker 3>because you've stopped the Biden practice of releasing rapists. There

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<v Speaker 3>are children and the number of children who haven't been

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<v Speaker 3>physically and sexually assaulted by human traffickers. It is already

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<v Speaker 3>I think well into the thousands. And I want you

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<v Speaker 3>to think about that. Thousands of little girls, thousands of

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<v Speaker 3>little boys have not been violently, repeatedly raped by human traffickers.

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<v Speaker 3>Why because President Trump came in and because you've been

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<v Speaker 3>the borders are implementing it and secured the border, and

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<v Speaker 3>those kids are no longer being trafficked. That is a

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<v Speaker 3>profound legacy in just four or five months.

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<v Speaker 4>And let me go one step further. Of Trump asked

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<v Speaker 4>me to do three things. Security border, run the large

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<v Speaker 4>largest deep rotation offers I've ever seen, and find these

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<v Speaker 4>children and buy an administration over half a million children

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<v Speaker 4>were smuggling in this country, separated from their family, smuggling

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<v Speaker 4>this country and put in the hands of sponsors, many

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<v Speaker 4>unvetter sponsors. The last administration lost track of three hundred

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<v Speaker 4>thousand of them. Doesn't Trumps committed to finding as many

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<v Speaker 4>as you can. We've already found over seventy five hundred

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<v Speaker 4>of them. Wow. Some of thee were fir free, safe

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<v Speaker 4>with family, some were perfectly safe, and some weren't. Example

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<v Speaker 4>just there for yes, say a fourteen year old little

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<v Speaker 4>girl already to sex traffic, was pregnant living with two

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<v Speaker 4>men who are trafficking there where were going to prison

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<v Speaker 4>and we're helping that little girl. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>rescue every one of these little girls and make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that they're safe because so many of them are going

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<v Speaker 4>to be okay with family members. They just didn't respond

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<v Speaker 4>to problems or so forth. But many, I guarantee, I've

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<v Speaker 4>been doing this for over forty years. Many of them

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<v Speaker 4>are in sex trafficking, many of them are in forced labor,

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<v Speaker 4>living a life of hell every day. We're committed to

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<v Speaker 4>find every one of these little children and making sure

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<v Speaker 4>they're safe.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned finding them all. Let's talk about sanctuary cities

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<v Speaker 2>for a second. It's very clear Democrats are not backing

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<v Speaker 2>off of that. How dangerous is the policy and and

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<v Speaker 2>and who is being harbored in these cities that are

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<v Speaker 2>refusing to work with you guys? Will there be accountability?

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<v Speaker 2>Are they harboring MS thirteen gang members and domestic terrorists,

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<v Speaker 2>foreign terrorists? Uh, those that are putting the fetnol out

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<v Speaker 2>in society. How dangerous are these cities?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, they're the dangerous, the dangerous for everybody because in

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<v Speaker 4>the sanctuary city means you don't have access to the jail.

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<v Speaker 4>Arrust A bad guy public safety threat in the safety

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<v Speaker 4>and security of the jail, where the alien safe, the

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<v Speaker 4>officers safe, on the public safe. When sanctuary cities knowingly

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<v Speaker 4>released a public safety a threat back in the street,

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<v Speaker 4>it certainly puts the community at risk. He even puts

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<v Speaker 4>the alien at risk because anything can happen during the

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<v Speaker 4>street arrest and great it puts the officers that great

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<v Speaker 4>risk because now we've got to arrest a criminal alien

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<v Speaker 4>public safety threat on his turf. We as access to

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<v Speaker 4>who knows what weapons. It's very dangerous and yest will

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<v Speaker 4>host sanctuary cities accountable. Its pam binding has already fought

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<v Speaker 4>lawsuits against several Uh, we're we're we're working with DJ

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<v Speaker 4>now again. We want we want where's that right, where's

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<v Speaker 4>that where's that line? Where when do you cross that line?

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<v Speaker 4>You can sit there and watch ICE do your job.

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<v Speaker 4>Because here's what irritates me the most. I don't care

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<v Speaker 4>what party you're in. If you're an elected mayor, elect,

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<v Speaker 4>a city council person, or elected governor, your number one

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<v Speaker 4>responsibility it's the safety and security of your neighborhoods, your communities.

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<v Speaker 4>ICE has been cleared from the beginning with President Trump

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<v Speaker 4>we're going to prioritize public safety threats and national security threats.

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<v Speaker 4>Why will you not help us make your community safer.

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<v Speaker 4>There's no downside on that. And the sanctuary cities want

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<v Speaker 4>to argue what we're a sanctuary city because we want

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<v Speaker 4>victims and witnesses of crime, if they're illegally United States

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<v Speaker 4>to feel comfortable coming to the law enforcement without fear

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<v Speaker 4>of working with ICE. That is a bunch of crap victims,

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<v Speaker 4>and this is a crime. Don't want the bad guy

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<v Speaker 4>in the neighborhood either. And as far as the illegal

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<v Speaker 4>alien community, I'll say this, despite being here illegally, many

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<v Speaker 4>of them are god fearing family people. They don't want

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<v Speaker 4>a pretor in the neighborhood either. They don't want someone

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<v Speaker 4>to commit to DUI ten times driving to their neighborhood either.

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<v Speaker 4>So you know, if you go to the immigrant community

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<v Speaker 4>and ask the one simple question, would you rather have

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<v Speaker 4>ICE operating in the jail or in your community, what

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<v Speaker 4>do you think they're gonna say. They're gonna say to jail.

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<v Speaker 4>So sanctuousities will be held accountable. Matter of fact, we're

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<v Speaker 4>reissuing the ICE detainer. We just changed the new ICE

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<v Speaker 4>detainer We're letting them black and white, let them know

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<v Speaker 4>this person is a designated terrorist, this person is a

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<v Speaker 4>designated return felon. We're gonna let them know exactly who

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<v Speaker 4>there detaining based on biographic and biometric information and see

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<v Speaker 4>what they do. Are they gonna violate Relates and Riley Act?

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<v Speaker 4>Then we'll go out to prosecution. Now they're going to

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<v Speaker 4>know at least a terrorist. Then we're going to go

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<v Speaker 4>out to prosecution. So it's about to get a lot

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<v Speaker 4>tougher and it's the right thing to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, And let me ask, how worried are you that

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<v Speaker 3>they're a terrorists who came across the southern border in

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<v Speaker 3>the last four years, that are out there and that

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<v Speaker 3>are planning acts of terror in the United States right now?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm convinced we got over two million known guideways. Why

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<v Speaker 4>did two million people pay more to get away? They

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<v Speaker 4>pay the cartels a lot more money to escape apprehension

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<v Speaker 4>and get to New York's Chicago. Whoever, why didn't they

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<v Speaker 4>pay less? Why would you pay more to get away?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you don't want to be vetted, you don't want

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<v Speaker 4>a two things or printed. It's just scared to hell off.

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<v Speaker 4>Every American scared as hell on me. Somebody's going to be,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, child traffickers. Some of these are Karen patanaw

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<v Speaker 4>and some of these are going to be people from

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<v Speaker 4>the terrorist sponsored country. Under Joe Biden, we wrest over

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<v Speaker 4>four hundred people on terrace. Wass's come in the Southwest border.

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<v Speaker 4>If you don't think a single one of the two

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<v Speaker 4>manin Godaways didn't come from a country sponsoring terror, didn't

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<v Speaker 4>come here to do us harm, then you're just crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>As you know it was what was it? Just not

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<v Speaker 4>a few months ago we arrested eight that we're paying

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<v Speaker 4>a terrorist attack, a Russian type terrorist tack the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>Luckily a tellison community call him on some chair and

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<v Speaker 4>we are able to arrest them. But we're not perfect

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<v Speaker 4>intelligence community. It's imperfect. They weren't perfect in Afghanistan. They

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<v Speaker 4>weren't perfect on a lot of things. So God help us.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they're here just intelligent port stander here. We

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<v Speaker 4>know where some aren't being monitored, but we don't know

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<v Speaker 4>where others are. So that scares the hell on me.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, And as you know, Chris Ray, the former director

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<v Speaker 3>of the FBI, every few months would come to Congress,

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<v Speaker 3>and he would do everything but set off an alarm

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<v Speaker 3>and bang a drum to say we are at major

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<v Speaker 3>risk of a terrorist attack from the open borders. Hamas

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<v Speaker 3>and Hezbelah have declared jahads on America. As you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the border patrol under Joe Biden was advised beyond on

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<v Speaker 3>the lookout for Hamas has Blo and Palestinian Islamic Jehad

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<v Speaker 3>terrorists coming across the southern border. And one of the things,

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<v Speaker 3>Tommy you said that was really important. Of the twelve

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<v Speaker 3>million illegal immigrants that came under Joe Biden, roughly two

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<v Speaker 3>million of those were god aways. That's by far the

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<v Speaker 3>most troubling of all those folks. The other ten million

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<v Speaker 3>are people who are apprehended, and apprehended in many instances

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<v Speaker 3>is the wrong term, because as you know, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>spent a lot of time down on the southern border,

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<v Speaker 3>I almost always go out on midnight patrol with the

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<v Speaker 3>border patrol agents. When I'm there, Apprehended doesn't even characterize

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<v Speaker 3>what they were doing. Most nights, people would cross the

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<v Speaker 3>border and they'd go look for a border patrol agent

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<v Speaker 3>and actively turn themselves in because the result would be

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<v Speaker 3>that Joe Biden would say where do you want to go,

0:22:30.080 --> 0:22:32.960
<v Speaker 3>and would fly them to wherever they wanted to be. Literally,

0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:35.600
<v Speaker 3>the Biden administration was the last mile of the human

0:22:35.680 --> 0:22:38.800
<v Speaker 3>trafficking network. But Tom, what you said is exactly right.

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<v Speaker 3>Those two million guidaways are much more likely to be

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<v Speaker 3>violent criminals, much more likely to be murderers or rapist

0:22:46.840 --> 0:22:50.160
<v Speaker 3>or child molesters, much more likely to be MS thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>gang members, much more likely.

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<v Speaker 1>To be terrorist.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's the population that is most worrisome. And speaking

0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:01.399
<v Speaker 3>of MS thirteen gang members, I thought politics could not

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<v Speaker 3>get weirder. The Democrats have decided to go all in,

0:23:05.560 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 3>making their central party platform be that we should admit

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:13.879
<v Speaker 3>more illegal aliens, and in particular, we want more Venezuelan

0:23:14.000 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 3>gang members MS thirteen gang members here. And they decided

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:21.399
<v Speaker 3>that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is their poster child for the

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<v Speaker 3>Democrat Party. Tom, how confident to tell us about Abrego Garcia?

0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:29.159
<v Speaker 3>How confident are you that he's a gang member, that

0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:29.840
<v Speaker 3>he's a criminal.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm very confident, and I've talked to the head of

0:23:34.240 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 4>Vice numerous times. People are understanding, So he got no

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.440
<v Speaker 4>due process, Yes he did. He got due process from

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<v Speaker 4>two different federal judges who said he's at the United States,

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<v Speaker 4>a citizen Al Salvador, and he gave up order of deportation.

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<v Speaker 4>He had a great two process, a great text. Theyre

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<v Speaker 4>spense on top of that men winter ice and they

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:55.119
<v Speaker 4>sent those two plane loads of tdat MS thirteen. Hundreds

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.959
<v Speaker 4>and hundreds of hours were spent on every case. They

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<v Speaker 4>went to the criminal history the immigration had, They went

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<v Speaker 4>to intelligence report, they went to confidential informance statements, they

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<v Speaker 4>went to wire taps, they went to a bunch of

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<v Speaker 4>stuff to certify these people were members of tvaight MS thirteen.

0:24:12.359 --> 0:24:16.200
<v Speaker 4>So they got due process several times. Obrego Garcia's home,

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<v Speaker 4>he's a citizen Al Salvador. And for those the Democrats said,

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<v Speaker 4>well they made a mistake. I still say it was

0:24:21.880 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 4>a mistake. It was an over temporary Oversecond, here's the

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:27.440
<v Speaker 4>problem he had it withholding order. He had not returned

0:24:27.440 --> 0:24:29.480
<v Speaker 4>to Al Salvador because he feared death from the gang.

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<v Speaker 4>Two things have changed since that order was given. Number one,

0:24:33.480 --> 0:24:35.879
<v Speaker 4>he's a designated terror so that with holding order has

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:38.480
<v Speaker 4>been set aside. Number two, the gang he feared it

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.720
<v Speaker 4>no longer exists now Salvador because the great work, President

0:24:41.720 --> 0:24:45.160
<v Speaker 4>BUCKETI did there, so the circumstances surround that with holding

0:24:45.320 --> 0:24:48.560
<v Speaker 4>order are no longer valid. And here's what would happened.

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<v Speaker 4>If somebody was to make this guy return to the

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<v Speaker 4>United States, he would be detained and removed the next day,

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<v Speaker 4>if not to Al Salvador, to another country. He's not here,

0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.240
<v Speaker 4>but as President Boukeley said, he is a pre certified

0:25:01.400 --> 0:25:05.359
<v Speaker 4>national of Al Salvador. He is home. He is home.

0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 4>He is a certified Heminister team member, not just by ice,

0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 4>by local police departments, intelligience reports, Immigration judges in the

0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 4>country of Al Salvador says he's a eministery team member.

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<v Speaker 4>He's home is exactly where he should be. This country,

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:22.280
<v Speaker 4>his wife, his neighborhood is a lot safer because he

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<v Speaker 4>locked up.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to accountability for a second time,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to ask you there are a lot

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>of people that believe that there were laws that were

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<v Speaker 2>broken deliberately in the last administration. They knew they were

0:25:32.960 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 2>breaking the law. One of those would be former Homeland

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:39.240
<v Speaker 2>Security Secretary. My orc is that you mentioned a moment ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Should he be criminally prosecuted for his role in the

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<v Speaker 2>border crisis. If it was as deliberate as it now seems.

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<v Speaker 4>Look, I think what he did was borderline trees in

0:25:49.440 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 4>this I'm not an attorney, I'm not a prosecutor. But

0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:54.920
<v Speaker 4>what he did, he did more damage to this country.

0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:57.200
<v Speaker 4>Him and the by the administration. What they did to

0:25:57.320 --> 0:26:00.520
<v Speaker 4>this country, I can tell you when they opened that

0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:05.440
<v Speaker 4>border up sex trafficking women should to increase tenfold of

0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 4>a record number of migrants died making that journey. Over

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 4>four thousand or record number of Americans died from Fatanah

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 4>that come across that open border. And and it's just

0:26:16.080 --> 0:26:18.280
<v Speaker 4>what he what he calls this country and from a

0:26:18.400 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 4>national securities perspective, because here's what his orders were, process quick,

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:27.040
<v Speaker 4>release quick. They didn't care about the crisis. They cared

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:30.160
<v Speaker 4>about the optics of the crisis. If there's no overcrowding,

0:26:30.520 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 4>there's nothing to see here. So border trades were processed

0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:35.959
<v Speaker 4>as quick as they could, and releases a quick as

0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:39.359
<v Speaker 4>they could. And there's been several instances where they released

0:26:39.440 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 4>so quickly the FBI scan didn't come back and and

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:45.399
<v Speaker 4>it came back hot. Actually they already bember released. They

0:26:45.520 --> 0:26:49.440
<v Speaker 4>came back hot. As a known spectatorian. So yeah, What

0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:53.679
<v Speaker 4>he did was unconsortable. What he did is my opinion,

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:57.440
<v Speaker 4>borderline treason. Is he should be held accountable because a

0:26:57.520 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 4>lot of deaths occurred under his watch. And like, like

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.359
<v Speaker 4>Sandra Cruz said a few minutes ago, right now, ninety

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 4>six percent decline and illegal immigration when ninety six percent

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 4>less people are coming, How many women aren't being raped?

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 4>How many children aren't dying crossing that border. How many

0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:14.920
<v Speaker 4>no inspected terariors aren't getting in the country. How many

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.800
<v Speaker 4>pounds of fatanyl is not getting the country? What are

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 4>you going to see in the President Trump's administration? Ventanyl deaths,

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 4>a decrease, sex trafficking with decrease, smuggling with decrease, and

0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 4>no inspected tarors. They got no open night anymore. Now

0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 4>that we got the board secure, every single borders religion

0:27:30.800 --> 0:27:34.199
<v Speaker 4>is on the lying on patrol. During his National security

0:27:34.320 --> 0:27:37.440
<v Speaker 4>duty under Joe Biden, it was an average most days,

0:27:37.520 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 4>an average seventy percent seven zero seventy percent of agents

0:27:42.320 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 4>were no longer on patrol. They were changing diapers, making

0:27:45.200 --> 0:27:48.399
<v Speaker 4>baby formula, making hospital runs. The last time aren't down there.

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 4>Before the election, I talked to hundreds of board places

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 4>and told me to hang on, hang on, changes coming.

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.080
<v Speaker 4>I really think the President Tump's going to win. But

0:27:55.240 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 4>they told me, no, we're sick of being tour station.

0:27:57.359 --> 0:28:01.680
<v Speaker 4>We're sick of being uber drivers and deliver these people

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<v Speaker 4>to the very same people who pay for their smuggling.

0:28:05.359 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 4>They couldn't recruit. They couldn't people were quitting. They were

0:28:08.320 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 4>quickly for it, even as well for retirement. They couldn't

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 4>red recruiting numbers. You know, last month, Ice, I'm excuse me,

0:28:14.440 --> 0:28:18.479
<v Speaker 4>Bord Patrol had the highst recruiting numbers and the history

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 4>of that agency just last month.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fantastic. And look, I will say Tom's not exaggerating

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 3>at all. Like when I would visit with Border Patrol

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:32.120
<v Speaker 3>agents the frustration. Look, the men and women who sign

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 3>up for the Border Patrol, they do do so because

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 3>they're patriots. They do so because they love America. They

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.120
<v Speaker 3>do so because they want to keep our communities and

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 3>our families and our kids safe, and they want to

0:28:41.920 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 3>be out on patrol. Look, these that's what you sign

0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 3>up in the job. And they were sitting there just

0:28:47.520 --> 0:28:52.640
<v Speaker 3>shuffling paperwork, they were processing and just running a revolving

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:56.200
<v Speaker 3>door to try to release as many illegal immigrants as

0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.640
<v Speaker 3>fast as possible. That's what may Orc has looked viewed

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 3>as job is accelerate illegal immigration, not stop it, but

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<v Speaker 3>make it go more quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me ask you, Tom, you mentioned fentanyl.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we know about the numbers of fentanyl traffic

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<v Speaker 3>over the first four months of the Trump administration.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 4>There's been a decrease, and I've got from three or

0:29:17.520 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 4>four different sources. The percentage of decrease is different from

0:29:20.480 --> 0:29:23.920
<v Speaker 4>every source. The problem is the CDC doesn't have good

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:26.960
<v Speaker 4>metrics on fatanyl. But look across the country. You can

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:30.400
<v Speaker 4>see the decrease in fatanyl. Fatanyl's being c's on the

0:29:30.440 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 4>southern border. And it's the metrics and that's maybe something

0:29:35.760 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 4>you all work on up there in the Senate. Uh.

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 4>CDC needs a track is more, more more accurately. Like

0:29:44.040 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 4>I said, you got you got a number of deaths

0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.040
<v Speaker 4>reported by states. You got a number of deaths reported

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 4>by CDC. None of them match. So, but we do

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.280
<v Speaker 4>know there's been a reduction. You don't see you know

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 4>three hundred people dying every day from fantolic We did that,

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.520
<v Speaker 4>did see? Right? We know? We don't I have two

0:30:00.800 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 4>you know, nine to elevens a week happening from kids

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 4>dying from fatanah. So I don't have exact numbers, but

0:30:06.040 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 4>we already see the effects of a secure board.

0:30:08.360 --> 0:30:10.240
<v Speaker 3>And Tom, let me ask you also, So, one of

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 3>the things we've talked about on this podcast. In twenty eighteen,

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 3>the Mexican drug cartels made roughly five hundred million dollars

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 3>from human trafficking. Last year, the drug cartels made over

0:30:23.200 --> 0:30:28.040
<v Speaker 3>thirteen billion dollars from human trafficking. That's a twenty six

0:30:28.160 --> 0:30:31.200
<v Speaker 3>hundred percent increase. Do we have any data yet? Do

0:30:31.280 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 3>you have any visibility on what has happened to the

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 3>drug cartel's revenue? Because one of the worst consequences of

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:42.920
<v Speaker 3>what Biden's open border did is is it turned these vicious, murderous,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:50.640
<v Speaker 3>transnational criminal organizations into incredibly wealthy powerhouses, and it put

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 3>huge resources in their pockets. Do do you have any

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:54.400
<v Speaker 3>data on what's happened to their revenues?

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 4>Well, one of the first best thing President Trump did

0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.560
<v Speaker 4>is designated terurist organization. Because you start to have killed

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 4>more Americans and every turnance organization were combined. We knew that.

0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:07.720
<v Speaker 4>That's why there's so much buy on some Mexico. The

0:31:07.840 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 4>last four years, cartels were fighting each other for control

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:14.360
<v Speaker 4>of the Plauzas. Why because they're making record amounts of money,

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 4>smuggling people, record amount of money and trafficking women and children,

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 4>and a record amount of money moving dope across that border. Now,

0:31:21.160 --> 0:31:23.080
<v Speaker 4>with the board secure, we're hitting them where it hurts.

0:31:23.720 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 4>Are smugglings down, both drugs and people. Trafficking is down,

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 4>So we're hitting where it hurts. That's why the latest

0:31:30.280 --> 0:31:33.920
<v Speaker 4>intelligence force I see they're trying to produce and push

0:31:34.000 --> 0:31:38.600
<v Speaker 4>more fatanol into Asian European nations because their market here

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:42.800
<v Speaker 4>the United States has been so brutally attacked. I wish

0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:46.440
<v Speaker 4>what would happen is that Mexico would agree with President

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.160
<v Speaker 4>Trump to let us help them take the cartels and

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:50.920
<v Speaker 4>wipe them off the face of the ears. Because right

0:31:50.960 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 4>now they're like the holical cartel. They're in forty four

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.800
<v Speaker 4>countries around the globe. They're like a fortune five hundred company.

0:31:58.120 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 4>It's going to take the United States to take them on.

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 4>Mexico's failed for decades to do it, and a lot

0:32:02.440 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 4>of mech sure you know that military police and government

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 4>forstses are corrupt. I'll say this, A lot of the

0:32:06.720 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 4>corruption is force corruption. Because you're a police officer Mexo.

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 4>You're making you know, four hundred dollars a month, but

0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 4>a Mexican tartel comes up and obviously ten thousand look

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:17.840
<v Speaker 4>the other way, and you're going to take it? Are

0:32:17.880 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 4>they going to kill you and your family? I think

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 4>Mexico will be a much safer and much prosper more

0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:25.440
<v Speaker 4>prosperous country if they let President Trump help them hpe

0:32:25.480 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 4>the cartels off the face of the ear.

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Look that that is absolutely right. And let me underscore

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 3>that point. A lot of people don't realize, particularly those

0:32:33.240 --> 0:32:36.160
<v Speaker 3>on the left, that that what Joe Biden the Democrats did,

0:32:36.240 --> 0:32:39.840
<v Speaker 3>it wasn't just horribly cruel to the American people, it

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:45.560
<v Speaker 3>was horribly cruel to Mexican nationals in Mexico. Turning these

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 3>vicious criminals into the most powerful economic force in Mexico

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.240
<v Speaker 3>has increased the murder rate, the crime rate, the kidnapping

0:32:56.360 --> 0:33:00.120
<v Speaker 3>rate rate. I visited with with a Mexican mayor of

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 3>a town on the other side of the border, and

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to say which mayor because he told

0:33:03.920 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 3>me in confidence because he was afraid.

0:33:06.800 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 1>But he said in his town.

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:15.120
<v Speaker 3>They had had over three thousand disappearances, just people Mexican

0:33:15.440 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 3>nationals living in Mexico who just ran a foul of

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:21.040
<v Speaker 3>the cartel and they just disappear and they find mass

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 3>graves and the suffering and murder and kidnapping that that

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 3>that has happened in Mexico because of the Democrats political

0:33:30.360 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 3>decision I think was cruel and horrible. And and Tom,

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 3>you're exactly right that the US military can take out

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 3>the cartels, and we've done it before in Colombia. President

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Uribe asked the military to come in and take out

0:33:45.280 --> 0:33:48.320
<v Speaker 3>the cartels in Colombia, and we came in and did that,

0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 3>and we could do it again. And and I do

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 3>think it would be much better if the Mexican government

0:33:53.560 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 3>invited US in. It would have transformational impact within Mexico.

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.520
<v Speaker 5>To say a lot of lives, like say, lexing cartoons

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:07.440
<v Speaker 5>have killed thousands of judges and prosecutors and journalists, yeah.

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:08.040
<v Speaker 4>And citizens.

0:34:08.120 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 5>So you know, I wish they I wish they'd joined

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.680
<v Speaker 5>with President Trump and that would be a game changer,

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.240
<v Speaker 5>uh for Mexico and the United Things.

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 3>All right, final question, we saw just this week that

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:25.640
<v Speaker 3>that New Jersey Democrat Congresswoman Lamonica mac Ivor was charged

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:30.040
<v Speaker 3>for assaulting law enforcement at an ICE facility. Uh, tell me,

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 3>tell us how important that is and and what do

0:34:32.560 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 3>you think about about the fact that that charges were

0:34:34.840 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 3>brought for assault. We saw during the Biden administration repeatedly, Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>law enforcement, Customs, border patrol, ICE agents were subject to

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<v Speaker 3>physical assault, no charges were brought. How important is it

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<v Speaker 3>that that these charges were brought?

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<v Speaker 4>The suns of strong messs is very important and also

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<v Speaker 4>proves that on bluff I'd said them the David auguration.

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<v Speaker 4>If you want to not support ICE, well, shame mind you,

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<v Speaker 4>but you have that right. You want to protest against

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<v Speaker 4>ICE and to protests against Trump's policies, that's fine. If

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<v Speaker 4>you want to watch ICE come in and clean your

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<v Speaker 4>city up because you're a sanctuary city, don't want to help,

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<v Speaker 4>you can do that too, But ICE had from day one.

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<v Speaker 4>You can't cross that line. You can't cross the line

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<v Speaker 4>of impediment. That's a felony. You can't cross the line

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<v Speaker 4>on noialing and harboring, concealing and able to go amis MICE,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a felony. You certainly can't commit criminal trespasses at

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<v Speaker 4>our facilities, and for God's sake, you can't put hands

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<v Speaker 4>on I ice officers. And this happened during the same

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<v Speaker 4>time frame. The same week I went to Blue Mass

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<v Speaker 4>in Washington, d C. And Remembrance of the men and

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<v Speaker 4>women in law enforce and put their lives on the

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<v Speaker 4>lines of this country every day. So we spent a

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<v Speaker 4>week just just just praising these men and women, talking

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<v Speaker 4>to their families who also paid the ultimate sacrifice. They

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<v Speaker 4>lost the loved one forever, children lost their fathers and mothers,

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<v Speaker 4>and mothers and fathers lost their sons and daughters. In

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<v Speaker 4>the same week we're supposed to be honor in law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 4>you got some of the member Congress putting their hands

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<v Speaker 4>in shoving an ICE officer, which makes that facility very unsafe.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm sick and tired of hearing what we have

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<v Speaker 4>congression oversight responsibilities. There is a right way and wrong

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<v Speaker 4>way to do it. You don't force your way in

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<v Speaker 4>the facility. You don't put hands on an officer. We

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<v Speaker 4>do oversight all the time. And what are they finding

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<v Speaker 4>out as people are getting tours in that facility that

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<v Speaker 4>they have the highest detention standards in the industry and

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<v Speaker 4>It puts every every other detention center in jail in

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<v Speaker 4>the state of New Jersey, whether it is a county

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<v Speaker 4>or state. It puts them to shame because our detention

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<v Speaker 4>standards are so high. So when you go and calls

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<v Speaker 4>that kind of practice, where we're trying to maintain a

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<v Speaker 4>facility with very dangerous people inside, we got to protect

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<v Speaker 4>not only the criminals, we gotta protect the employees and

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<v Speaker 4>the citizens on the outside. What she did was just horrendous.

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<v Speaker 4>She put hands on an officer. Like they said for

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<v Speaker 4>four years, no one's above the law. You're damn right.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not above the law, even members of Congress. The

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<v Speaker 4>president is above the law, but these are members of Congress.

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<v Speaker 3>Look amen, And I will say, Tom, I've I've visited

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<v Speaker 3>dozens of ICE facilities and CBP facilities. I've never found

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<v Speaker 3>it difficult to refrain from physical assault on an officer. Somehow,

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<v Speaker 3>that temptation was never there for me, and in fact

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<v Speaker 3>for the opposite. It is my job to have their backs.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a job I take incredibly seriously. And I just

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<v Speaker 3>want to say, Tom, you were a patriot, You were

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<v Speaker 3>a great American. We have roughly a million unique listeners

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<v Speaker 3>who listened to verdict and I want to say, on

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<v Speaker 3>behalf of all of them, and on behalf of thirty

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<v Speaker 3>one million Texans, thank you for what you are doing.

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<v Speaker 3>You are keeping my children safer and Tom I am

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<v Speaker 3>grateful you are on that frontline for us, and you

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<v Speaker 3>and President Trump are making a massive difference for the

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<v Speaker 3>entire country.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I appreciate that, but I'm not going to take credit.

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<v Speaker 4>Please give the thing for your listeners. You see a

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<v Speaker 4>borbous agent, Yes, just say thank you, because I cannot

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<v Speaker 4>believe that. We knew they're going to take hate as

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<v Speaker 4>soon as President Something got back in. But say thank

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<v Speaker 4>you because these men, women, their mothers and fathers too.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't hang their heart on a hook at home.

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<v Speaker 4>When they go to work, they see a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>terrible things. They put the life on the line. At

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<v Speaker 4>three o'clock this morning, when everybody is sleeping, Me and

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.360
<v Speaker 4>Sender is sleeping. At three am this morning, there's borbite

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<v Speaker 4>laces and standing on a dirt trail someplace going to

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:18.040
<v Speaker 4>take something on. They don't know if it's just an

0:38:18.080 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 4>illegal alien or heavily armed drug smunker. They're going to

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<v Speaker 4>take it on in the nearest back of us miles away.

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<v Speaker 4>God bless the men and women of borbetow, God best

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<v Speaker 4>the women of Vice, and God bless this great nation.

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<v Speaker 4>We're taking it.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen.

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