1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:01,560 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:05,200 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz. Ben Ferguson with you, Senator. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: One of the best things about getting to do this 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: show is having on brilliant minds from within the administration 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 2: who get to talk directly the American people. And today 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: we get to have another very special guest, a. 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: Good friend of yours. 8 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: The Borders Are is joining us and I'll let you 9 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 2: take it from there. 10 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 3: Well, Tom Homan is serving as President Trump's Borders Are. 11 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: He is the former acting director of the US Immigration 12 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 3: and Customs Enforcement and he has been borders Are since 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 3: Trump resumed office as president. His formal title, which I like, 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 3: is what White House Executive Associate Director of Enforcement and 15 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: Removal Operations. And to be clear, his job is to 16 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 3: secure the border, keep US safe, and remove dangerous illegal aliens. 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 3: He's doing a hell of a job. Tom, Welcome to Verdict. 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: So let's start with just how are we doing? 20 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 3: And we're four months in, almost five months into the 21 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 3: Trump presidency. How are we doing? Tell us what has 22 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: happened since President Trump became president again? 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: On the border? 24 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 4: Well, President Trump today, where I'm talking to today san 25 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 4: Or the Cruz. We have the most secure border in 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: the history of this nation. Today, the most secure board ever. 27 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 4: I mean we even beat Trump forty five. Well, we 28 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 4: hand the Biden administration's most secure boarder ever ahead of 29 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 4: that time. But the Dad is even better now. And 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 4: let me give you a few numbers, just a few numbers. 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 4: Under Biden administration, we were dealing with ten eleven thousand, 32 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: even a few times fifteen thousand aliens to day yesterday 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: it was two hundred and eleven. We went from thirteen 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 4: fourteen thousand to two hundred and eleven. 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: And that's across the entire southwest border. 36 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 4: Yes, gotaways under Biden an average gotaway day and under 37 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:00,559 Speaker 4: Biden was eighteen hundred plus eighteen hundred plus got aways 38 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: yesterday thirty nine. 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: Wow. 40 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 4: And then the most impressive number the first one hundred 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 4: days on President Trump compared to the first the same 42 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 4: time period last year under Biden, Biden released over one 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 4: hundred and eighty four thousand illegal animates in this country. 44 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 4: The Trump administration one there was nine releases. But for 45 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 4: more material witnesses. As you know, we want them to 46 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 4: come here to testifying the Carpol troal so form we 47 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: want to command four came across the border in such 48 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 4: bad shape that we had to call an ambulance and 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 4: take care of the medical needs. We had allowment insided 50 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 4: medical treatment, but we had one one discretionary release compared 51 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 4: to one hundred and eighty four thousand released under the 52 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 4: same time period. Are in biden most secure border history 53 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 4: of nation. Interior enforcement offerings ices arrested three times more 54 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: criminals than Biden did during the same time period. We 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 4: got more to rest, We got many more to rest, 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 4: but they're already hitting the ball out of park. Don't 57 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: keep doing it when you do more of it. And 58 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 4: we're hoping for a budget real soon here so we 59 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 4: can step up efforts there. But it's it's game changing. 60 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 4: President Trump's been a game changer, and the men and women, 61 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 4: vice and men, women, barb stood up taking on the 62 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:15,839 Speaker 4: task and cousindent. Trump did in seven weeks, but Joe 63 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 4: Biden couldn't or wouldn't do in four years. 64 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 3: My favorite line from from President Trump's most recent State 65 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: of the Union address it is when he said, you know, 66 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 3: Joe Biden stood here a year ago and said that 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: he couldn't secure the border without new legislation passing Congress 68 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 3: and then Trump said, it turns out we didn't need 69 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: new legislation, We just needed a new president and and. 70 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: And that's powerfully true. 71 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: So let me ask just just a simple question for 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: those Look, you're you're an immigration expert, but for someone 73 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: at home, how did the numbers drop so precipitously? What 74 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 3: specifically are y'all doing differently than than what Joe Biden, 75 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris did. 76 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: The biggest thing we've done is a president's executive orders 77 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: that are We're a game changer, remain EXCO a game changer. 78 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 4: I have the third State Country Agreements a game changer, 79 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 4: and finally ending catcher release. People know you come to 80 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: a border, now you're not being released, and we're just 81 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 4: followed the law because, as you know, under federal statue, 82 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: an alien arrives at our border without proper documentation to 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 4: enter the language is you shall be detained. Now maybe 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 4: not thinking about it, not problem shall And that's exactly 85 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 4: where we're doing. Those street things, by themselves have been 86 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 4: a major game changer, and all three of them were 87 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 4: EXCO lords by. 88 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 2: President Trump's I want to talk to you real quick 89 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews most of us, 90 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 2: when we go to bed at night, we don't have 91 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 2: to worry about there being an explosion that awakes us 92 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: in the middle of the evening. 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Now, let's be clear, every place they 121 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: build a border barrier, illegal migrations went down, illegal drug 122 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 4: flow went down, But most important walls save lives. Women 123 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 4: and children can't get over that wall, the most vulnerable, 124 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 4: so they go to a place so there's not a 125 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: wall on what's waiting on them the men and women 126 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 4: of the Borderatrol first of all. So the ball saves lives. 127 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 4: So we need to finish the border barrier. We need 128 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 4: money to finish the technology within the existing border wall, 129 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 4: because not only did President by And stop the construction 130 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 4: of the wall, he stopped adding the technology in that 131 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: smart wall, technology that lets us know how someone climbs 132 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: that wall, touch this wall, dig under that wall. Technology 133 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: where borbitual agents in the middle of nowhere can get 134 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 4: on the radio and use the wall as a repeater 135 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 4: to talk to other agents for help. There are some 136 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: places on the southern border where they lose all community. 137 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 4: So all that technology needs to be done. More technology yet, 138 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: portive entries to make sure no Ventana's coming through. And 139 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 4: as far as the entire enforcement, we need beds. Right now. 140 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 4: We got about fifty two thousand people in detention. We're 141 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 4: funder that thirty four thousand ICE is already in the hole. 142 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 4: We need about one hundred thousand beds because everybody we 143 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 4: arrest needs a bet. We just don't rest abody in 144 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: New York City and put them on a plane leave. 145 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: We got detained for several days or several weeks, to 146 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 4: get travel doctrines, get flight flight arrangements, flight finances. So 147 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: we need bets. So we need you know, so this budget, 148 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 4: that depending budget right now, the Big beautiful Bill will 149 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: give us money for those beds. They're going to give 150 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: us thousands of more borbitiacens, thousands more ICE agents. It's 151 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 4: going to give ICE a budget to bring in more 152 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 4: contracts up. What I mean by that badgers and guns 153 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 4: shouldn't be sitting at a desk doing reports of processing. 154 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 4: They shouldn't be sitting at a desk doing travel documents 155 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: and all the all the administrative duties that occur within ice. 156 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 4: You can have a contract to sitting there doing that work. 157 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 4: Give that badging gun, get them out on the street 158 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 4: to arrest the public safety thrusts and national security threats. 159 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 4: So we needed the money to Like I said, we're 160 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: doing more than Biden did, but Biden wasn't doing anything. 161 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: We need to do ten times more than buying it too, 162 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 4: not three times more. And I'll leave you with this. 163 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 4: We got seven hundred thousand illegal aliens in this country 164 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 4: with a criminal conviction walking the streets this country. We 165 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 4: got to get them. We got to get it quickly. 166 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 4: We got one point four man illegal aliens who do 167 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 4: have due process, a great taxpayer expense. We're ordered removed 168 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 4: by a federal judge and didn't leave and they become fusitives. 169 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 4: We got a lot of work to do, and we 170 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 4: need money to do more. We're doing good, but more 171 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 4: money we have, the more we can do well. 172 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 3: And Ben I'll say this that Congress, we will get 173 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,720 Speaker 3: this Reconciliation bill passed. It's gonna take time, it's gonna 174 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: be bumpy, but we'll get it done. And when we 175 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 3: get it done, we're gonna have funding to build the wall. 176 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 3: We're gonna have funding for technology on the wall. We're 177 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: gonna have funding for more border patrol agents. We're gonna 178 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 3: have funding for more ice agents. We're gonna have funding 179 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: for more detention beds. We're gonna have funding for more 180 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 3: fixed wing and rhetory way aircraft. We're going to have 181 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 3: funding for more drones and more infrared and technology. We 182 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: are stepping in now. It's going to take a little 183 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 3: bit of time to get the bill across the finish line, 184 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: but I'm confident we'll do it. And I will say 185 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 3: it really underscores something we've said on Verdict many times, 186 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: which is the most important factor in securing the border. 187 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 3: And this is what Tom said just a minute ago. 188 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,119 Speaker 3: It is a policy decision, and it is a decision 189 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 3: what happens when you apprehend an illegal immigrant. And if 190 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 3: the answer is you put them on a plane and 191 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 3: you fly them back home. They all have cell phones. 192 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 3: They pick up their phones and they call home and 193 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 3: they say don't come. They're not letting you stay. And 194 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 3: the flip side is true if when you apprehend them, 195 00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: you let them go. You say what city do you 196 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: want to go to? And you put them on a plane, 197 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: you put them on a bus, and you let them 198 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 3: go in every city in America, which is what Joe 199 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 3: Biden was doing. Again, they all have phones. They pick 200 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 3: up the phone, they call their friends and family, and 201 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 3: the numbers skyrocket. And so when President Trump left office 202 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 3: the first time he had produced the lowest rate of 203 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 3: illegal immigration in forty five years. That's what Joe Biden inherited. 204 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: It immediately skyrocketed to the worst rate of illegal immigration 205 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 3: in history. Joe Biden allowed twelve million of the illegal 206 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: immigrants to come into this country. And regular listeners of 207 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 3: Verdict will recall I predicted, I said, we will see 208 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 3: the numbers plummet. And it won't take a year, it 209 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 3: won't even take six months. It will happen immediately, because 210 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 3: on day one, catch and release is going to end, 211 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 3: and we're going to see the numbers plummet. Now all 212 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: that being said, Tom, let me ask you honestly, I 213 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 3: will admit I predicted loudly that the numbers would plummet. 214 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 3: I'll confess. I didn't think they'd drop over ninety nine percent. 215 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 3: Are you I'm surprised at just how massive the success is. 216 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 3: Are you a little bit surprised or. 217 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 4: No, I'm not surprised for all the success. I'm surprised 218 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 4: how fast that happened. When President Trump, when he called me, 219 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 4: asked me to be the borders our course, I didn't. 220 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 4: Has Dak came back and the first meeting who he had, 221 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 4: he asked me, how long will it take you down 222 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: the secure the border? I says, sir, I need I 223 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 4: need at least one hundred and twenty days. He says, well, 224 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 4: I get a ninety. I said, sir, I'll respect one 225 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty days, even pushing that we did this 226 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: in seven weeks. Seven weeks numbers already down. Yep, ninety. 227 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: And you're exactly right. Everything you said is right. But 228 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: I want to add one thing. When Joe Biden opened 229 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 4: that border up, he's the first president in the history 230 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 4: of this nation who came into office and unsecured a 231 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: border on purpose. This wasn't mismanagement, this wasn't incompetence. He 232 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 4: ran on open borders, and that's exactly what he did. 233 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: You know. So when you tell the whole world enter 234 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 4: the country legally, don't worry about it. We're going to 235 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 4: release you anyways. And when you got a secondary of 236 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 4: ma orcust on ice. You can't arrest somebody for being 237 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 4: here illegally unless they got a serious criminal conviction. The 238 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: whole world's going to come. You can cross the border illegally. 239 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 4: You get released in twenty four hours. We won't give 240 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: you a free plane ticket to the city of your choice. 241 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: We're going to put you in a free hotel room. 242 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 4: We're going to give you three meals a day. We're 243 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 4: going to give you free medical attention. And guess what, 244 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 4: hanging out for one hundred and twenty days, We're gonna 245 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 4: give you a work assization. The very reason they came 246 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,679 Speaker 4: Hery not because of asylum, because they wanted a job. So 247 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 4: Biden did what he did, I'm purposed, and President Trump 248 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 4: came back in seven weeks again seven weeks did what 249 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 4: Joe Biden couldn't do or wouldn't do. 250 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: Repeat the numbers you said about how many illegals are 251 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 3: in the US right now who have criminal convictions, and 252 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: to be clear, these are convictions for crimes other than 253 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 3: crossing illegally into the country. Every illegal has committed that crime, 254 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: But how many have convictions for murder, for rape, for 255 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: other crimes other than crossing the border illegally. 256 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 4: Just under seven hundred thousand. 257 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 3: I mean, that is a stunning number. And what you're saying, 258 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 3: and I agree with you, is is that Joe Biden 259 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 3: deliberately chose We're going to leave murderers here, We're going 260 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: to leave rapists in America, We're going to leave child 261 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 3: molesters in America. We're not going to send ice to 262 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 3: arrest them, We're not going to pick them up, we're 263 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 3: not going to deport them. That they put partisan politics 264 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: above protecting American families, about protecting our kids. 265 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 4: That's why I woke up four years pissed off every morning. 266 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 4: President Trump when he called me, asked me to come back, 267 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 4: and he said to me, we've been E've been bitching 268 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 4: about it for four years. Want to come back and 269 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: fix it. And I did because I knew every morning 270 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 4: I wake up, and Senator you know this just as 271 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 4: well as I do. I knew every morning when I 272 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 4: woke up, how many children died acrossing the borders last night, 273 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 4: how many women got sexually assaulted. How many people on 274 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 4: Terrace Roster's got across the border. How many women and 275 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 4: children were sex traffick in this country? How many billions 276 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 4: of dollars in the cartels make how many Americans died 277 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: in the last twenty four hours from Fetannah coming across 278 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 4: the open border for four years, I was pissed off. 279 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 4: President Trump came back, like I said, in seven weeks. 280 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 4: We had a border down ninety percent in seven weeks. 281 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 4: So you know, just like you said, it was a 282 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 4: matter of President the matter enforce the law. You know, 283 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 4: I'll tell you it's center cruise. And you know, every 284 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 4: time I seen the meeting, every time I see you 285 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: in the meeting, I call you out. I call you 286 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 4: out because you've been a tip of the speer on 287 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 4: this thing. I appreciate your working us. You're from Texas, 288 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 4: you know, And God bless Governor Abbit. Governor Abbitt did 289 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 4: he was more of a Secretary of Homeland Security moral 290 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 4: it's ever been wherever it's thought of being, so, God 291 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 4: blessed date of Texas. They took the first rail on 292 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 4: this And again, I can't thank you enough. Every time 293 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 4: I see I call you out. Thank you for being 294 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 4: the tip of the spear. I see you everywhere wanting 295 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: the secure border, and you're fighting hard for me, and 296 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 4: you're fighting hard for the men and women the border 297 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 4: toe You're fighting hard for the men and women of Ice. 298 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 4: I love each and every one of those men and 299 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: put their live on line for this country every day, 300 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,800 Speaker 4: men and women, and I appreciate your fight for them. 301 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: You've had their six and day one, and I love 302 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: you for it. I appreciate it. 303 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 3: Well, Tom, let me thank you for that. I appreciate that, 304 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: and I appreciate your passion and commitment. You were You're 305 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 3: showing up, and you said something that I think is 306 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 3: really important for our listeners to understand. You and President 307 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 3: Trump right now are quite literally saving lives. You are 308 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: saving lives. There are Americans, and there are significant number 309 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 3: of Americans who are alive today because a violent criminal 310 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 3: did not cross the border, was not released, and didn't 311 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: murder them. There are women who have not been raped 312 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 3: because you've stopped the Biden practice of releasing rapists. There 313 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: are children and the number of children who haven't been 314 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 3: physically and sexually assaulted by human traffickers. It is already 315 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 3: I think well into the thousands. And I want you 316 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: to think about that. Thousands of little girls, thousands of 317 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:39,359 Speaker 3: little boys have not been violently, repeatedly raped by human traffickers. 318 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 3: Why because President Trump came in and because you've been 319 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: the borders are implementing it and secured the border, and 320 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 3: those kids are no longer being trafficked. That is a 321 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: profound legacy in just four or five months. 322 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 4: And let me go one step further. Of Trump asked 323 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 4: me to do three things. Security border, run the large 324 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 4: largest deep rotation offers I've ever seen, and find these 325 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: children and buy an administration over half a million children 326 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: were smuggling in this country, separated from their family, smuggling 327 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 4: this country and put in the hands of sponsors, many 328 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 4: unvetter sponsors. The last administration lost track of three hundred 329 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 4: thousand of them. Doesn't Trumps committed to finding as many 330 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 4: as you can. We've already found over seventy five hundred 331 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 4: of them. Wow. Some of thee were fir free, safe 332 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 4: with family, some were perfectly safe, and some weren't. Example 333 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: just there for yes, say a fourteen year old little 334 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 4: girl already to sex traffic, was pregnant living with two 335 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 4: men who are trafficking there where were going to prison 336 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 4: and we're helping that little girl. So we're going to 337 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 4: rescue every one of these little girls and make sure 338 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 4: that they're safe because so many of them are going 339 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 4: to be okay with family members. They just didn't respond 340 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 4: to problems or so forth. But many, I guarantee, I've 341 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: been doing this for over forty years. Many of them 342 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 4: are in sex trafficking, many of them are in forced labor, 343 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 4: living a life of hell every day. We're committed to 344 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 4: find every one of these little children and making sure 345 00:16:58,120 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 4: they're safe. 346 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 2: You mentioned finding them all. Let's talk about sanctuary cities 347 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: for a second. It's very clear Democrats are not backing 348 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,280 Speaker 2: off of that. How dangerous is the policy and and 349 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: and who is being harbored in these cities that are 350 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 2: refusing to work with you guys? Will there be accountability? 351 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 2: Are they harboring MS thirteen gang members and domestic terrorists, 352 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: foreign terrorists? Uh, those that are putting the fetnol out 353 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: in society. How dangerous are these cities? 354 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 4: Well, they're the dangerous, the dangerous for everybody because in 355 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,880 Speaker 4: the sanctuary city means you don't have access to the jail. 356 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 4: Arrust A bad guy public safety threat in the safety 357 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 4: and security of the jail, where the alien safe, the 358 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,479 Speaker 4: officers safe, on the public safe. When sanctuary cities knowingly 359 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 4: released a public safety a threat back in the street, 360 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 4: it certainly puts the community at risk. He even puts 361 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 4: the alien at risk because anything can happen during the 362 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: street arrest and great it puts the officers that great 363 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 4: risk because now we've got to arrest a criminal alien 364 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 4: public safety threat on his turf. We as access to 365 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 4: who knows what weapons. It's very dangerous and yest will 366 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 4: host sanctuary cities accountable. Its pam binding has already fought 367 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 4: lawsuits against several Uh, we're we're we're working with DJ 368 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 4: now again. We want we want where's that right, where's 369 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 4: that where's that line? Where when do you cross that line? 370 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,120 Speaker 4: You can sit there and watch ICE do your job. 371 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 4: Because here's what irritates me the most. I don't care 372 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 4: what party you're in. If you're an elected mayor, elect, 373 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 4: a city council person, or elected governor, your number one 374 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 4: responsibility it's the safety and security of your neighborhoods, your communities. 375 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 4: ICE has been cleared from the beginning with President Trump 376 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 4: we're going to prioritize public safety threats and national security threats. 377 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 4: Why will you not help us make your community safer. 378 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 4: There's no downside on that. And the sanctuary cities want 379 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 4: to argue what we're a sanctuary city because we want 380 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: victims and witnesses of crime, if they're illegally United States 381 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 4: to feel comfortable coming to the law enforcement without fear 382 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: of working with ICE. That is a bunch of crap victims, 383 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 4: and this is a crime. Don't want the bad guy 384 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 4: in the neighborhood either. And as far as the illegal 385 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 4: alien community, I'll say this, despite being here illegally, many 386 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 4: of them are god fearing family people. They don't want 387 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 4: a pretor in the neighborhood either. They don't want someone 388 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 4: to commit to DUI ten times driving to their neighborhood either. 389 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 4: So you know, if you go to the immigrant community 390 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 4: and ask the one simple question, would you rather have 391 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 4: ICE operating in the jail or in your community, what 392 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 4: do you think they're gonna say. They're gonna say to jail. 393 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 4: So sanctuousities will be held accountable. Matter of fact, we're 394 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: reissuing the ICE detainer. We just changed the new ICE 395 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 4: detainer We're letting them black and white, let them know 396 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: this person is a designated terrorist, this person is a 397 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 4: designated return felon. We're gonna let them know exactly who 398 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: there detaining based on biographic and biometric information and see 399 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 4: what they do. Are they gonna violate Relates and Riley Act? 400 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 4: Then we'll go out to prosecution. Now they're going to 401 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 4: know at least a terrorist. Then we're going to go 402 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: out to prosecution. So it's about to get a lot 403 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 4: tougher and it's the right thing to do. 404 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 3: Well, And let me ask, how worried are you that 405 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 3: they're a terrorists who came across the southern border in 406 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: the last four years, that are out there and that 407 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: are planning acts of terror in the United States right now? 408 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 4: I'm convinced we got over two million known guideways. Why 409 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: did two million people pay more to get away? They 410 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 4: pay the cartels a lot more money to escape apprehension 411 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 4: and get to New York's Chicago. Whoever, why didn't they 412 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 4: pay less? Why would you pay more to get away? 413 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 4: Because you don't want to be vetted, you don't want 414 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 4: a two things or printed. It's just scared to hell off. 415 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 4: Every American scared as hell on me. Somebody's going to be, 416 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 4: you know, child traffickers. Some of these are Karen patanaw 417 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: and some of these are going to be people from 418 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 4: the terrorist sponsored country. Under Joe Biden, we wrest over 419 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: four hundred people on terrace. Wass's come in the Southwest border. 420 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 4: If you don't think a single one of the two 421 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 4: manin Godaways didn't come from a country sponsoring terror, didn't 422 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,159 Speaker 4: come here to do us harm, then you're just crazy. 423 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 4: As you know it was what was it? Just not 424 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 4: a few months ago we arrested eight that we're paying 425 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: a terrorist attack, a Russian type terrorist tack the United States. 426 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 4: Luckily a tellison community call him on some chair and 427 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 4: we are able to arrest them. But we're not perfect 428 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:12,479 Speaker 4: intelligence community. It's imperfect. They weren't perfect in Afghanistan. They 429 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 4: weren't perfect on a lot of things. So God help us. 430 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: I think they're here just intelligent port stander here. We 431 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 4: know where some aren't being monitored, but we don't know 432 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 4: where others are. So that scares the hell on me. 433 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 3: Well, And as you know, Chris Ray, the former director 434 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: of the FBI, every few months would come to Congress, 435 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,879 Speaker 3: and he would do everything but set off an alarm 436 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: and bang a drum to say we are at major 437 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 3: risk of a terrorist attack from the open borders. Hamas 438 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: and Hezbelah have declared jahads on America. As you know, 439 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 3: the border patrol under Joe Biden was advised beyond on 440 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: the lookout for Hamas has Blo and Palestinian Islamic Jehad 441 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: terrorists coming across the southern border. And one of the things, 442 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 3: Tommy you said that was really important. Of the twelve 443 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,239 Speaker 3: million illegal immigrants that came under Joe Biden, roughly two 444 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: million of those were god aways. That's by far the 445 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: most troubling of all those folks. The other ten million 446 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 3: are people who are apprehended, and apprehended in many instances 447 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: is the wrong term, because as you know, and I've 448 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: spent a lot of time down on the southern border, 449 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 3: I almost always go out on midnight patrol with the 450 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: border patrol agents. When I'm there, Apprehended doesn't even characterize 451 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 3: what they were doing. Most nights, people would cross the 452 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: border and they'd go look for a border patrol agent 453 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 3: and actively turn themselves in because the result would be 454 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 3: that Joe Biden would say where do you want to go, 455 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: and would fly them to wherever they wanted to be. Literally, 456 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 3: the Biden administration was the last mile of the human 457 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: trafficking network. But Tom, what you said is exactly right. 458 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,879 Speaker 3: Those two million guidaways are much more likely to be 459 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 3: violent criminals, much more likely to be murderers or rapist 460 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 3: or child molesters, much more likely to be MS thirteen 461 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: gang members, much more likely. 462 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: To be terrorist. 463 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 3: And that's the population that is most worrisome. And speaking 464 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 3: of MS thirteen gang members, I thought politics could not 465 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 3: get weirder. The Democrats have decided to go all in, 466 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 3: making their central party platform be that we should admit 467 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 3: more illegal aliens, and in particular, we want more Venezuelan 468 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: gang members MS thirteen gang members here. And they decided 469 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 3: that Kilmar Abrego Garcia is their poster child for the 470 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 3: Democrat Party. Tom, how confident to tell us about Abrego Garcia? 471 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: How confident are you that he's a gang member, that 472 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: he's a criminal. 473 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 4: I'm very confident, and I've talked to the head of 474 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 4: Vice numerous times. People are understanding, So he got no 475 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,440 Speaker 4: due process, Yes he did. He got due process from 476 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 4: two different federal judges who said he's at the United States, 477 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 4: a citizen Al Salvador, and he gave up order of deportation. 478 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 4: He had a great two process, a great text. Theyre 479 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 4: spense on top of that men winter ice and they 480 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 4: sent those two plane loads of tdat MS thirteen. Hundreds 481 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,959 Speaker 4: and hundreds of hours were spent on every case. They 482 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 4: went to the criminal history the immigration had, They went 483 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 4: to intelligence report, they went to confidential informance statements, they 484 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 4: went to wire taps, they went to a bunch of 485 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: stuff to certify these people were members of tvaight MS thirteen. 486 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 4: So they got due process several times. Obrego Garcia's home, 487 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 4: he's a citizen Al Salvador. And for those the Democrats said, 488 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 4: well they made a mistake. I still say it was 489 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 4: a mistake. It was an over temporary Oversecond, here's the 490 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 4: problem he had it withholding order. He had not returned 491 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: to Al Salvador because he feared death from the gang. 492 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 4: Two things have changed since that order was given. Number one, 493 00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 4: he's a designated terror so that with holding order has 494 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 4: been set aside. Number two, the gang he feared it 495 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: no longer exists now Salvador because the great work, President 496 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 4: BUCKETI did there, so the circumstances surround that with holding 497 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 4: order are no longer valid. And here's what would happened. 498 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,440 Speaker 4: If somebody was to make this guy return to the 499 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: United States, he would be detained and removed the next day, 500 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 4: if not to Al Salvador, to another country. He's not here, 501 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 4: but as President Boukeley said, he is a pre certified 502 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 4: national of Al Salvador. He is home. He is home. 503 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 4: He is a certified Heminister team member, not just by ice, 504 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 4: by local police departments, intelligience reports, Immigration judges in the 505 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 4: country of Al Salvador says he's a eministery team member. 506 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,359 Speaker 4: He's home is exactly where he should be. This country, 507 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 4: his wife, his neighborhood is a lot safer because he 508 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 4: locked up. 509 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 2: I want to go back to accountability for a second time, 510 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,479 Speaker 2: and I want to ask you there are a lot 511 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 2: of people that believe that there were laws that were 512 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,919 Speaker 2: broken deliberately in the last administration. They knew they were 513 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: breaking the law. One of those would be former Homeland 514 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 2: Security Secretary. My orc is that you mentioned a moment ago. 515 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: Should he be criminally prosecuted for his role in the 516 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 2: border crisis. If it was as deliberate as it now seems. 517 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 4: Look, I think what he did was borderline trees in 518 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 4: this I'm not an attorney, I'm not a prosecutor. But 519 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 4: what he did, he did more damage to this country. 520 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 4: Him and the by the administration. What they did to 521 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 4: this country, I can tell you when they opened that 522 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 4: border up sex trafficking women should to increase tenfold of 523 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 4: a record number of migrants died making that journey. Over 524 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 4: four thousand or record number of Americans died from Fatanah 525 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 4: that come across that open border. And and it's just 526 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: what he what he calls this country and from a 527 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 4: national securities perspective, because here's what his orders were, process quick, 528 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 4: release quick. They didn't care about the crisis. They cared 529 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 4: about the optics of the crisis. If there's no overcrowding, 530 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 4: there's nothing to see here. So border trades were processed 531 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 4: as quick as they could, and releases a quick as 532 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 4: they could. And there's been several instances where they released 533 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 4: so quickly the FBI scan didn't come back and and 534 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 4: it came back hot. Actually they already bember released. They 535 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 4: came back hot. As a known spectatorian. So yeah, What 536 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 4: he did was unconsortable. What he did is my opinion, 537 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 4: borderline treason. Is he should be held accountable because a 538 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 4: lot of deaths occurred under his watch. And like, like 539 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 4: Sandra Cruz said a few minutes ago, right now, ninety 540 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 4: six percent decline and illegal immigration when ninety six percent 541 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 4: less people are coming, How many women aren't being raped? 542 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 4: How many children aren't dying crossing that border. How many 543 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 4: no inspected terariors aren't getting in the country. How many 544 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 4: pounds of fatanyl is not getting the country? What are 545 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 4: you going to see in the President Trump's administration? Ventanyl deaths, 546 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: a decrease, sex trafficking with decrease, smuggling with decrease, and 547 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: no inspected tarors. They got no open night anymore. Now 548 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 4: that we got the board secure, every single borders religion 549 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 4: is on the lying on patrol. During his National security 550 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,440 Speaker 4: duty under Joe Biden, it was an average most days, 551 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 4: an average seventy percent seven zero seventy percent of agents 552 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 4: were no longer on patrol. They were changing diapers, making 553 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,399 Speaker 4: baby formula, making hospital runs. The last time aren't down there. 554 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: Before the election, I talked to hundreds of board places 555 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 4: and told me to hang on, hang on, changes coming. 556 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 4: I really think the President Tump's going to win. But 557 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,200 Speaker 4: they told me, no, we're sick of being tour station. 558 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 4: We're sick of being uber drivers and deliver these people 559 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 4: to the very same people who pay for their smuggling. 560 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: They couldn't recruit. They couldn't people were quitting. They were 561 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 4: quickly for it, even as well for retirement. They couldn't 562 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 4: red recruiting numbers. You know, last month, Ice, I'm excuse me, 563 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,479 Speaker 4: Bord Patrol had the highst recruiting numbers and the history 564 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 4: of that agency just last month. 565 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 3: That's fantastic. And look, I will say Tom's not exaggerating 566 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 3: at all. Like when I would visit with Border Patrol 567 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: agents the frustration. Look, the men and women who sign 568 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 3: up for the Border Patrol, they do do so because 569 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 3: they're patriots. They do so because they love America. They 570 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: do so because they want to keep our communities and 571 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: our families and our kids safe, and they want to 572 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 3: be out on patrol. Look, these that's what you sign 573 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 3: up in the job. And they were sitting there just 574 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 3: shuffling paperwork, they were processing and just running a revolving 575 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: door to try to release as many illegal immigrants as 576 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 3: fast as possible. That's what may Orc has looked viewed 577 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: as job is accelerate illegal immigration, not stop it, but 578 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,880 Speaker 3: make it go more quickly. 579 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: Let me ask you, Tom, you mentioned fentanyl. 580 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: What do we know about the numbers of fentanyl traffic 581 00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 3: over the first four months of the Trump administration. 582 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 4: There's been a decrease, and I've got from three or 583 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 4: four different sources. The percentage of decrease is different from 584 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 4: every source. The problem is the CDC doesn't have good 585 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: metrics on fatanyl. But look across the country. You can 586 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: see the decrease in fatanyl. Fatanyl's being c's on the 587 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 4: southern border. And it's the metrics and that's maybe something 588 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 4: you all work on up there in the Senate. Uh. 589 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 4: CDC needs a track is more, more more accurately. Like 590 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 4: I said, you got you got a number of deaths 591 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 4: reported by states. You got a number of deaths reported 592 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 4: by CDC. None of them match. So, but we do 593 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 4: know there's been a reduction. You don't see you know 594 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: three hundred people dying every day from fantolic We did that, 595 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 4: did see? Right? We know? We don't I have two 596 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 4: you know, nine to elevens a week happening from kids 597 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 4: dying from fatanah. So I don't have exact numbers, but 598 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: we already see the effects of a secure board. 599 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: And Tom, let me ask you also, So, one of 600 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 3: the things we've talked about on this podcast. In twenty eighteen, 601 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 3: the Mexican drug cartels made roughly five hundred million dollars 602 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: from human trafficking. Last year, the drug cartels made over 603 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 3: thirteen billion dollars from human trafficking. That's a twenty six 604 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 3: hundred percent increase. Do we have any data yet? Do 605 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: you have any visibility on what has happened to the 606 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 3: drug cartel's revenue? Because one of the worst consequences of 607 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 3: what Biden's open border did is is it turned these vicious, murderous, 608 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: transnational criminal organizations into incredibly wealthy powerhouses, and it put 609 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 3: huge resources in their pockets. Do do you have any 610 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: data on what's happened to their revenues? 611 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 4: Well, one of the first best thing President Trump did 612 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 4: is designated terurist organization. Because you start to have killed 613 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 4: more Americans and every turnance organization were combined. We knew that. 614 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 4: That's why there's so much buy on some Mexico. The 615 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 4: last four years, cartels were fighting each other for control 616 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: of the Plauzas. Why because they're making record amounts of money, 617 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 4: smuggling people, record amount of money and trafficking women and children, 618 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 4: and a record amount of money moving dope across that border. Now, 619 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 4: with the board secure, we're hitting them where it hurts. 620 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 4: Are smugglings down, both drugs and people. Trafficking is down, 621 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 4: So we're hitting where it hurts. That's why the latest 622 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 4: intelligence force I see they're trying to produce and push 623 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 4: more fatanol into Asian European nations because their market here 624 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 4: the United States has been so brutally attacked. I wish 625 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 4: what would happen is that Mexico would agree with President 626 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 4: Trump to let us help them take the cartels and 627 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 4: wipe them off the face of the ears. Because right 628 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 4: now they're like the holical cartel. They're in forty four 629 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 4: countries around the globe. They're like a fortune five hundred company. 630 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: It's going to take the United States to take them on. 631 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 4: Mexico's failed for decades to do it, and a lot 632 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 4: of mech sure you know that military police and government 633 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 4: forstses are corrupt. I'll say this, A lot of the 634 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 4: corruption is force corruption. Because you're a police officer Mexo. 635 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: You're making you know, four hundred dollars a month, but 636 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 4: a Mexican tartel comes up and obviously ten thousand look 637 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 4: the other way, and you're going to take it? Are 638 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 4: they going to kill you and your family? I think 639 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: Mexico will be a much safer and much prosper more 640 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 4: prosperous country if they let President Trump help them hpe 641 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 4: the cartels off the face of the ear. 642 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 3: Look that that is absolutely right. And let me underscore 643 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 3: that point. A lot of people don't realize, particularly those 644 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 3: on the left, that that what Joe Biden the Democrats did, 645 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 3: it wasn't just horribly cruel to the American people, it 646 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: was horribly cruel to Mexican nationals in Mexico. Turning these 647 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 3: vicious criminals into the most powerful economic force in Mexico 648 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 3: has increased the murder rate, the crime rate, the kidnapping 649 00:32:56,360 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 3: rate rate. I visited with with a Mexican mayor of 650 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 3: a town on the other side of the border, and 651 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 3: I'm not going to say which mayor because he told 652 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 3: me in confidence because he was afraid. 653 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: But he said in his town. 654 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 3: They had had over three thousand disappearances, just people Mexican 655 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 3: nationals living in Mexico who just ran a foul of 656 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: the cartel and they just disappear and they find mass 657 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 3: graves and the suffering and murder and kidnapping that that 658 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 3: that has happened in Mexico because of the Democrats political 659 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 3: decision I think was cruel and horrible. And and Tom, 660 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 3: you're exactly right that the US military can take out 661 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 3: the cartels, and we've done it before in Colombia. President 662 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,239 Speaker 3: Uribe asked the military to come in and take out 663 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 3: the cartels in Colombia, and we came in and did that, 664 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 3: and we could do it again. And and I do 665 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 3: think it would be much better if the Mexican government 666 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 3: invited US in. It would have transformational impact within Mexico. 667 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 5: To say a lot of lives, like say, lexing cartoons 668 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 5: have killed thousands of judges and prosecutors and journalists, yeah. 669 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 4: And citizens. 670 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 5: So you know, I wish they I wish they'd joined 671 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 5: with President Trump and that would be a game changer, 672 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 5: uh for Mexico and the United Things. 673 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 3: All right, final question, we saw just this week that 674 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: that New Jersey Democrat Congresswoman Lamonica mac Ivor was charged 675 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 3: for assaulting law enforcement at an ICE facility. Uh, tell me, 676 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 3: tell us how important that is and and what do 677 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 3: you think about about the fact that that charges were 678 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 3: brought for assault. We saw during the Biden administration repeatedly, Uh, 679 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 3: law enforcement, Customs, border patrol, ICE agents were subject to 680 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: physical assault, no charges were brought. How important is it 681 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:48,919 Speaker 3: that that these charges were brought? 682 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 4: The suns of strong messs is very important and also 683 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 4: proves that on bluff I'd said them the David auguration. 684 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:58,840 Speaker 4: If you want to not support ICE, well, shame mind you, 685 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 4: but you have that right. You want to protest against 686 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 4: ICE and to protests against Trump's policies, that's fine. If 687 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 4: you want to watch ICE come in and clean your 688 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 4: city up because you're a sanctuary city, don't want to help, 689 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 4: you can do that too, But ICE had from day one. 690 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,439 Speaker 4: You can't cross that line. You can't cross the line 691 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 4: of impediment. That's a felony. You can't cross the line 692 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 4: on noialing and harboring, concealing and able to go amis MICE, 693 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 4: that's a felony. You certainly can't commit criminal trespasses at 694 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 4: our facilities, and for God's sake, you can't put hands 695 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 4: on I ice officers. And this happened during the same 696 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 4: time frame. The same week I went to Blue Mass 697 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 4: in Washington, d C. And Remembrance of the men and 698 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 4: women in law enforce and put their lives on the 699 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 4: lines of this country every day. So we spent a 700 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 4: week just just just praising these men and women, talking 701 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,279 Speaker 4: to their families who also paid the ultimate sacrifice. They 702 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 4: lost the loved one forever, children lost their fathers and mothers, 703 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 4: and mothers and fathers lost their sons and daughters. In 704 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 4: the same week we're supposed to be honor in law enforcement, 705 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,319 Speaker 4: you got some of the member Congress putting their hands 706 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 4: in shoving an ICE officer, which makes that facility very unsafe. 707 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 4: And I'm sick and tired of hearing what we have 708 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 4: congression oversight responsibilities. There is a right way and wrong 709 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 4: way to do it. You don't force your way in 710 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 4: the facility. You don't put hands on an officer. We 711 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,640 Speaker 4: do oversight all the time. And what are they finding 712 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 4: out as people are getting tours in that facility that 713 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 4: they have the highest detention standards in the industry and 714 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:25,320 Speaker 4: It puts every every other detention center in jail in 715 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 4: the state of New Jersey, whether it is a county 716 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,720 Speaker 4: or state. It puts them to shame because our detention 717 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,319 Speaker 4: standards are so high. So when you go and calls 718 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 4: that kind of practice, where we're trying to maintain a 719 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 4: facility with very dangerous people inside, we got to protect 720 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 4: not only the criminals, we gotta protect the employees and 721 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 4: the citizens on the outside. What she did was just horrendous. 722 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 4: She put hands on an officer. Like they said for 723 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 4: four years, no one's above the law. You're damn right. 724 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,320 Speaker 4: They're not above the law, even members of Congress. The 725 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,920 Speaker 4: president is above the law, but these are members of Congress. 726 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,640 Speaker 3: Look amen, And I will say, Tom, I've I've visited 727 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 3: dozens of ICE facilities and CBP facilities. I've never found 728 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 3: it difficult to refrain from physical assault on an officer. Somehow, 729 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: that temptation was never there for me, and in fact 730 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,720 Speaker 3: for the opposite. It is my job to have their backs. 731 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 3: That's a job I take incredibly seriously. And I just 732 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 3: want to say, Tom, you were a patriot, You were 733 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,280 Speaker 3: a great American. We have roughly a million unique listeners 734 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 3: who listened to verdict and I want to say, on 735 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 3: behalf of all of them, and on behalf of thirty 736 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 3: one million Texans, thank you for what you are doing. 737 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 3: You are keeping my children safer and Tom I am 738 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 3: grateful you are on that frontline for us, and you 739 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 3: and President Trump are making a massive difference for the 740 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 3: entire country. 741 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 4: Well, I appreciate that, but I'm not going to take credit. 742 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 4: Please give the thing for your listeners. You see a 743 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 4: borbous agent, Yes, just say thank you, because I cannot 744 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 4: believe that. We knew they're going to take hate as 745 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 4: soon as President Something got back in. But say thank 746 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 4: you because these men, women, their mothers and fathers too. 747 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 4: They don't hang their heart on a hook at home. 748 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 4: When they go to work, they see a lot of 749 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 4: terrible things. They put the life on the line. At 750 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 4: three o'clock this morning, when everybody is sleeping, Me and 751 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,360 Speaker 4: Sender is sleeping. At three am this morning, there's borbite 752 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 4: laces and standing on a dirt trail someplace going to 753 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 4: take something on. They don't know if it's just an 754 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 4: illegal alien or heavily armed drug smunker. They're going to 755 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 4: take it on in the nearest back of us miles away. 756 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 4: God bless the men and women of borbetow, God best 757 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 4: the women of Vice, and God bless this great nation. 758 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 4: We're taking it. 759 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,720 Speaker 2: Amen. 760 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,800 Speaker 1: Amen, don't forget. We do this show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. 761 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 2: Hit that subscriber auto download button on those in between days. 762 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,760 Speaker 1: Grab my podcast, the Ben Ferguson Podcast. 763 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 2: I'll keep you update on the latest breaking news there 764 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,239 Speaker 2: as well and the Center, and I will see you 765 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 2: back here on Friday morning.