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Once you all 0:01:18.440 --> 0:01:21.240 week and Draft show will get started as Brian and 0:01:21.240 --> 0:01:23.080 I were just talking about on their that'll get started, 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.399 not next week, the week after that, We'll get started. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:28.480 Got a few surprises for you guys there. It's gonna 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:31.880 be gonna be a fun season on on on Draft show. 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.160 All right, so let's talk Cowboys. Let's talk with injuries. 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.360 Yesterday, we find out after some talk that we've been 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.280 having throughout the week, Amber, I think somebody's been listening 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:46.039 to you, and decision was made. This specion was made 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:48.840 that is time to shut it down for mister Cede 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.600 Lamb and he's done for the year. And I was 0:01:52.680 --> 0:01:54.720 I thought it was interesting the way that they phrased it, 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:58.120 which was basically, after kind of reviewing whatever they review, 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.960 they felt like this point, it was at a point 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:05.080 where they he doesn't need to play anymore because that 0:02:05.320 --> 0:02:07.560 there could be more damage. 0:02:07.240 --> 0:02:08.800 That the MRIs were getting worse. 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:11.320 Yeah, and so it's like the yeah, and so at 0:02:11.360 --> 0:02:13.680 that point it was like, Okay, let's just shut him down. 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:15.840 Let's start rehabbing him. Doesn't look like it's going to 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:18.720 need surgery, No it's not. But they're gonna start rehabbing 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.359 him and see if they can get him back. 0:02:20.520 --> 0:02:21.280 Here's my question. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.959 Obviously this game doesn't matter, but to some degree it 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.600 does give you some opportunity here to be able to 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:30.400 look at your wide receiver corps. That being said, who 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:32.560 do you think will be the starting wide receivers this 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:34.880 weekend as Dallas heads to Philadelphia? 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.760 You got an idea on that one? Ag I would say, 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:44.720 I would say that you're probably looking at I don't know, 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:47.440 I don't know if this group you necessarily want to 0:02:47.480 --> 0:02:50.440 play a lot of eleven personnel and Dallas. Dallas has 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.359 gone away from that. Dallas, and I went back and 0:02:53.440 --> 0:02:55.840 checked this because I was curious because I wasn't seeing 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:59.480 it as much. And like in Atlanta week with Dak 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.600 the last game he played, they were like ninety eleven 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:06.720 personnel and now they're down into the like the sixties, 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.760 which is the lowest that they've been playing eleven personnel 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:12.960 last week against the Buccaneers. Every week they've gone less 0:03:13.000 --> 0:03:15.480 and less when we talk about eleven personnel, Jerry Madlan, 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:16.240 I'm doing this for you. 0:03:16.760 --> 0:03:18.400 Uh, the one running back, one tight end. 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:21.000 Yeah, one running back, one tight end. So that's you know, 0:03:21.080 --> 0:03:22.960 with the wide receiver packages and stuff. 0:03:22.720 --> 0:03:24.800 Like real quick for everyone, just the way the easiest 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.480 way to do it. The first number is number of 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:28.600 running backs on the field. The second numbers and number 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:30.519 tight ends on the field. You're going to have five 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.640 skill players and so whatever's left is number wide receivers. 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:35.440 There you go, there you go, thank you big well, 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:35.920 well done. 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:37.680 Jerry would be proud, Jould be found. 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:40.080 Yeah, be a little bigger on set there a little bit. 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:44.000 Be a little bigger if you can. But anyway, that's 0:03:44.240 --> 0:03:46.880 so they're playing a lot more with the twelve personnel, 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:49.200 so with the two tight ends. So you know, and 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.640 that's because I think because the emergence of Luke scoon 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.960 Maker and then you know also to with Span FOURD, 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.120 they're kind of getting him involved in some stuff. The 0:03:56.280 --> 0:03:59.440 running game has improved a little bit because of Rico Dadles, 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:00.720 so you're trying to get a little bit more of 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.400 a heavier package there. I I think that to me, 0:04:03.560 --> 0:04:06.400 when you play eleven personnel against the Eagles, you're playing 0:04:06.480 --> 0:04:09.560 right into their hands because they've got three quality corners. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.240 And so if Dallas comes out in say they come 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:15.240 out in just the bass, let's just say their base. 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:19.880 I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surpried Brooks is 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:25.920 practicing Tolbert Brooks. But how do you incorporate Turpin in there? 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.760 You know, some way, somehow. We haven't really seen anything. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:33.760 If Mingo had shown you anything, maybe it would be 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.960 a Brooks Mingo kind of a combination. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.080 But I think it's going to be he has shown 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:40.839 you stuff, but. 0:04:42.640 --> 0:04:46.000 If you put a seventy number on it, you can 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:49.320 show you and and and you know that's encouraging the guy. 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.080 I mean, he goes out there and they ask him 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.360 to do kind of the stuntman work, like okay, you 0:04:54.440 --> 0:04:56.320 know here bringing the stunt man and you know, okay, 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:58.400 now go block somebody here and you get you know, 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.200 blown up and that kind of stuff. But I just 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:06.480 I don't know how much like eleven personnel you want 0:05:06.520 --> 0:05:10.080 to play against the Eagles because that's their go to defense. 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:14.279 They feel they feel super comfortable playing. You've got three, 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.760 and you've got three guys that are really good. When 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:21.240 you start to talk about Slay Mitchell and Dejon Dejan, 0:05:21.240 --> 0:05:24.720 excuse me that they don't they just when you add 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.039 it all up, they're like quarterbacks are like sixty percent 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.320 against that, you know, completion percentage against those guys, so 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:32.800 it's going to be a little bit tougher. I have 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.360 a feeling both teams are going to get in a 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:37.280 mode of and you asked the question of I think 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:38.760 both teams are going to try and get in like 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:42.000 some heavy personnel stuff and just see which team they 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.040 have a clear advantage or running the ball. I mean, 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:47.360 it's the numbers tell you that. But you know, Daddle 0:05:47.480 --> 0:05:51.560 had some success inside runs against these guys the last 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.640 time they played, and they just couldn't stay with it. 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:55.880 You know, they just didn't stay with it. And maybe 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.960 now McCarthy's a little bit more committed because he's compromised. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:05.279 But to your question, Brooks and probably and probably Tolbert 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:06.040 would be my guess. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:13.720 I think that's the best answer and the more but 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.839 I was gonna say, I mean, and this is highly 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:21.120 unlikely to see a lot of these three guys together, 0:06:21.520 --> 0:06:26.040 but a combination that would make it interesting for me 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:31.400 to want to watch would be Cooks, Turpin and Mingo 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:38.520 three of them. And just because Cooks, I've seen what 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:40.600 he can do and I think he helps you in 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:44.240 that way to maybe get some attention from the defense 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:48.960 away from the other guys. And then Mingo. Like I said, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:52.760 I'm still curious. I think he's he's shown to have 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:55.520 some talent, but you just you haven't been able to 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:58.080 get the ball to him. So I want to see 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:02.680 how that would look like if it's with the game plan, Like, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.000 if this is the game plan, we're gonna try to 0:07:05.040 --> 0:07:08.280 get you the ball and see if it actually comes 0:07:08.320 --> 0:07:12.760 to fruition. And then Turpin, he's still a guy that 0:07:13.840 --> 0:07:16.320 I mean, we've seen what he can do, but I 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:20.840 don't think they've given him enough chances on offense just yet. 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:23.760 And with his speed and the season that he's been 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.640 having in those moments, I think I would be curious 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.520 just to see how that would look like again with 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.600 more intention in the game plan. 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:34.400 So with that being said, do you think it's gonna 0:07:34.400 --> 0:07:36.600 be Cooks and do you think it's gonna be Cooks 0:07:36.640 --> 0:07:39.160 and Tober? 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.080 I think it'll be Cooks and to Yeah, that's what 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:42.000 makes the most sense. 0:07:42.160 --> 0:07:42.840 I think it will be. 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:44.920 But I will say this, and here's here's where I'm 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:48.000 going with this next question. I think the interesting part 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.160 about this is you look at all five of the 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.160 names I'm gonna give you, they all have something to 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.960 gain by playing really well in these last two weeks. 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.480 Sure, some of them are free agents. 0:07:57.920 --> 0:07:59.960 Some are hopeful that they can get an opportunity to 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.120 maybe be a starter next year or to have a 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:03.120 more prominent role. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:03.880 Uh. 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:07.080 You know there's some like a Turpin that that this 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.320 could he could look at this and be like, maybe 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:11.040 I finally get the chance to prove I should be 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.080 a wide receiver that's playing a lot more at wide receiver. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:16.720 I'm not just a return guy. I can actually change 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:19.520 the game at wide receiver. You look at that, and 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.240 I'm going to give you these five names. I want 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:22.600 you guys to tell me who do you think has 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:28.680 the greater opportunity this weekend? Tolbert Turpin, Flinoy Mingo or Cooks. 0:08:28.920 --> 0:08:30.560 Cooks will be a free agent this year, so he's 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:31.840 trying to show the rest of the league you can 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:32.360 still play. 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.800 Your question is who has the great. 0:08:37.120 --> 0:08:40.120 Game, the most game this weekend if they get an 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:42.839 opportunity to really be able to put themselves in a 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:46.000 in a new light going into next year. 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:55.160 I would say a guy for me would put because 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:56.440 how old is Cooks right now? 0:08:58.720 --> 0:09:02.199 He's got to be Yeah, he's actually I don't think 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.839 he's as old as you think he is. It's funny 0:09:04.880 --> 0:09:05.480 he's playing. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:06.160 Just looks mature. 0:09:06.720 --> 0:09:08.679 He just played for so many teams, just like you 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:09.880 ass at all. 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:15.000 But let me let me do this for you thirty one. 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:23.360 Yeah, I think, thank you, Chris. I think maybe and 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.080 were we out on contracts again? 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:31.160 I think Cooks is a free agent? Is Turping a 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:31.880 free agent. 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:32.320 This year. 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:34.720 Or is it next year? 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.599 Man? You're asking a lot of questions. 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:42.040 Before asking these questions on there, I should have known this. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.800 Before because I think that that that affects the law 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:45.640 of the answer. 0:09:45.800 --> 0:09:48.120 What what we What we know is that I think 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.319 he's restricted. I think he could be thought it was 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:51.480 something with him. Yeah, I think. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:55.400 It's not a free agent obviously, Mingo is not a 0:09:55.480 --> 0:09:59.200 free agent. And I don't mean think and I don't 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.079 I don't think Brooks is either. I think all three 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:02.559 of them still have another year or two. 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.160 This is why this is why Cooks his last for me? Yeah, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:09.000 because I feel like you're probably gonna move on from Cooks. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:11.360 That would be that would be my That would be 0:10:11.440 --> 0:10:11.880 my guess. 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:12.640 Uh. 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.599 As far as the other I think the guy, the 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:18.439 guy that has the most to gain the next two 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:23.640 weeks is Mingo because they've got to they've got to 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.640 try and get him the ball. I mean like in 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:29.640 a legitimate way, not like a Okay, you run forty 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.199 something plays and oh, here's the fifty to fifty ball 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.240 you're throwing down the sidelines. Yeah, you know, try and 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:38.040 get some things. See about the slants, see about the 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:41.160 inbreaking routes. I don't know if you particularly want him 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:43.360 doing a bunch of crossing stuff like that, but do 0:10:43.520 --> 0:10:44.680 the big body routes. 0:10:44.760 --> 0:10:45.960 Yeah, the outs and. 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.520 The slants and the ends and the things like that, 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:50.760 and kind of see what you got, you know, with 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:52.719 with with him as a player, I think that he 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.440 has the most to gain. The problem is, I'm going 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:57.079 to go once again, I'm going to go into this 0:10:57.200 --> 0:11:00.760 season about with Tolbert and I'm sorry. I'm gonna do 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:02.599 a draft show for you, you know a lot of 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:04.520 days is and I'm going to talk about a second 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.480 wide receiver. I'm going to talk about drafted a kid 0:11:07.600 --> 0:11:11.520 from a burden from uh from Missouri. I'm going to 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:14.920 talk about you know, in Buka from Ohio State. I'm 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.160 going to talk about drafting a guy from one of 0:11:17.200 --> 0:11:20.480 these places. Because doubts I think needs a second wide receiver. 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:22.839 And let me let me ask you this question. I 0:11:22.840 --> 0:11:24.960 would I want to see at this how you feel 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.960 about this. Is there anything that any of these guys 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.000 can do in the next two weeks that changes what 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:31.760 you say when you bring up that. 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.800 The number two not familiar questions here? 0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:40.880 Need it really well? 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.160 They needed two weeks and you're still gonna be like, 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.319 no matter what I see the next two weeks, I 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:47.240 still need a not to You know. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:50.040 What this was when when we all got together and 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:52.520 Ox start and we're watching practice every day and and 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.880 talking about Tolbert, Tolbert, Tolbert, Tolbert Tolbert, and like, got 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.360 someone's gotta someone's got to step up, you know, yeah, 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:00.640 somebody's got to be the second receiver. You know Cooks 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.400 and Cooks got hurt and then it became Tolbert and 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.559 you know, so no, it hasn't changed. They need a 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:08.280 legitimate second receiver. 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.840 No matter what happens here, matter, no matter, no matter, 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:11.160 I mean. 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:13.320 And then the rest of these guys I think are 0:12:13.360 --> 0:12:16.520 playing now. Turpin's got some interesting traits about him that 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:18.679 you know, can you use him in the slot? Can 0:12:18.760 --> 0:12:20.439 you use use him? You know, He's always going to 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.439 be a special teams guy for you. But no, no Brooks, 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.880 you know, Brooks, Tolbert, those guys. I'm going to draft 0:12:27.960 --> 0:12:30.880 somebody that's probably better than those two guys, and that's 0:12:30.920 --> 0:12:32.240 going to be the guy that I'm going to play 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:35.640 next to. Ceed Lamb. I've learned my lesson, you know, 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.480 I've I've I've waited now for Brooks now three years. Yeah, 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:42.079 I've always you know, I'm like, okay, this year, okay, 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:46.880 this year, Okay, no, no, And I'm sorry it sounds harsh, 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:51.280 but this team needs a legitimate second receiver. He makes, 0:12:51.559 --> 0:12:54.800 he makes occasionally, will make a play. You have to 0:12:54.880 --> 0:12:57.480 be better than one or two catches a game. You 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:01.319 have to and he and right now he's not. And 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:03.559 so that's that's kind of where I'm at with him. 0:13:03.960 --> 0:13:06.240 I'm okay with having him on the team, but I 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.719 know in my heart, I got to do better there 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:10.520 at the second receiver, and I think I can. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.679 I think and I totally agree with you having to 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:16.440 draft another receiver. 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:17.280 We've seen him. 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:21.960 We've seen I mean this season, poor Cedie Lamb. At 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:24.400 times he was the only one at times, you know, 0:13:24.559 --> 0:13:27.880 making the place he needs that kind of support on 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:32.679 the offense. But I would say if there was somebody 0:13:32.720 --> 0:13:36.559 that had the most to gain, it could potentially be 0:13:37.440 --> 0:13:42.559 Brooks because even though I like Brooks a slightly better 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:45.960 than Tolbert, I think the team, because of how they 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:51.160 obtain them, the team has Tolbert ahead of Brooks. And 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.680 when I'm trying to say, I could see potentially Tolber 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.680 staying here just as depth not us. 0:14:00.840 --> 0:14:03.720 He signed guy he signed through twenty twenty five, so. 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:04.800 He's got another year. 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:09.600 I mean, you can cut people, be drastic, cut bye 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.959 see you if you're not bringing anything to the table. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.880 But anyway, the point he's staying here. But Brooks he's 0:14:14.920 --> 0:14:17.080 an easier one that you could I could see him 0:14:17.120 --> 0:14:20.280 not being here next year, regardless of his contract not 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:23.320 being over. So I think if he was to have 0:14:23.440 --> 0:14:26.440 a good game this weekend and they use him and 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:30.800 he shines, I think the last taste in your mouth 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.480 is what you're gonna remember the most. So I think 0:14:33.600 --> 0:14:36.440 I do see this two last game being crucial for 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:37.320 guys like him. 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:42.080 Yeah, Tolbert's done, not Tobert Turpin is done, so he 0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:44.960 is a free agent. Yeah, he's with you twenty twenty two, 0:14:45.120 --> 0:14:47.720 twenty twenty three, twenty twenty four, three year deal. 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.440 So he's a restriction free but he'll be tender. 0:14:50.600 --> 0:14:52.600 Yeah, he'll They'll have to tender him either first or 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:53.480 second round. Yeah. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.760 Well yeah, I think I think he has a great 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.520 opportunity just because I think he has the probably the 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.560 most ability of any of these guys to be able 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.240 to really do something special. But I think beyond that, 0:15:05.440 --> 0:15:08.840 I would say Mingo is the guy because I look 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:11.800 at it for Mingo and I think after being after 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:14.760 being traded, like he's got something to prove. And you know, 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:17.960 this is this thing about the NFL, like you get 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.360 drafted by a team, don't really do much there, you 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:24.600 get traded to another team. If he does nothing here, 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:28.040 then the likelihood of him really getting his career going 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.200 at some point is probably going to be really really 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:30.600 But I. 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.360 Feel like he has a little bit more of a 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.200 grace period, yeah, because of the time that he got here, 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:38.640 how he got here. So that's why I don't see 0:15:38.680 --> 0:15:41.000 these last two games as being like, oh my god. 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.280 But it is an opportunity, is what I'm saying. And 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:45.040 that was the question, Like the way I look at 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:47.960 it is, here's an opportunity for him to show at 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:52.040 least a spark, show us at least a flash where 0:15:52.040 --> 0:15:55.280 we're like, oh wow, that's okay, he's got a little something, 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:58.200 because I think that carries over into next year. And 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.040 as you know the question I asked Brian about the draft, 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:03.400 I agree, I think you gotta draft somebody as your 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:05.600 second wide receiver. But I do think if one of 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:07.560 these guys really steps up these last two weeks, it 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:10.240 gives you a little more hope that Okay, if we 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.560 do move away from Cooks, we still feel good about 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.520 the depth of our wide receiver group. Even if we 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.120 draft a second wide receiver with CD Lamb and now 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:21.480 we feel like this other guy's kind of stepping up 0:16:21.480 --> 0:16:22.960 a little bit more, we think we got a good 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:26.200 crew here. If nobody steps up, then it's like, do 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:27.560 you even have a third wide receiver? 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:29.480 Do you even have nobody you can really rely on? 0:16:29.760 --> 0:16:31.520 Even if you draft some myset or you really need 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.640 to rehaulve this whole room and other than Cede Lamb, 0:16:34.880 --> 0:16:37.560 you basically got to and you're gonna have Cavanti Turpin 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.360 obviously because of what he brings on special teams, But 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:42.640 do you need to revamp the whole room. At that point, 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.920 I think it really is a critical time for these 0:16:44.960 --> 0:16:47.480 young guys to show something. 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Check it out today. 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.600 YEI Official cooler and drinkware of the Dallas Cowboys. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.080 Back to the Break. 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:38.560 At and T, Connecting changes everything. 0:19:38.760 --> 0:19:39.280 Welcome Back. 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:41.159 It is the second segment of the Break Live from 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.280 the SWBC Mortgage studios at the Star. 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.320 It's YETI Time with ag which guy? 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:50.000 This segment is presented by YETI officially licensed YETI Cowboy 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:54.080 Year is now available at Stadium, pro Shops, Concessions and 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:56.560 on yetti dot Com. You're right there. 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.680 Yeah, I keep feeling a cool breeze coming. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.160 I think it's this event over here. It's never usually 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:06.480 blowing like that. But go ahead. I'm sorry, Well, maybe 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.560 that's yet it's the coolness of YETI. It's it's just 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:10.080 I don't know. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:16.760 I don't know. Okay, So I figured since the years 0:20:16.920 --> 0:20:18.879 and then this is not like an end of the 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.760 year review play your evaluation type of thing would show. 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:22.080 Yeah. 0:20:22.720 --> 0:20:26.960 Yeah, But I'm gonna ask you in different areas of 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:31.960 just a year evaluation of the team and just kind 0:20:32.000 --> 0:20:34.800 of how you would rank it currently at the moment. 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:39.000 So we're gonna start with team chemistry. How would you 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:43.440 say the team chemistry was this year overall? 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:48.120 M That's a hard question. 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.920 The reason why I say it's a hard question is 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.080 because I think in a lot of ways, chemistry is 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:58.440 driven by the leadership of the team, and I think 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:02.560 by and large the leaders have been absent due to injury. 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.639 I saw did you see Micah posted on Twitter or 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:13.240 x the infamous picture of Will Smith from from the 0:21:13.280 --> 0:21:15.080 show he was on where he's standing there in a 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.159 room by himself and and and Michael is just kind 0:21:18.160 --> 0:21:19.560 of like, yeah, that's kind of where I am at 0:21:19.600 --> 0:21:23.000 this point now that CD's going yeah, And it made 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.959 me start thinking, like, what are the like you think 0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:31.920 about the leaders on this team, Dak, CD, Tank, even 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:35.080 Micah for a little bit. Sure, if you want to 0:21:35.119 --> 0:21:37.159 call Trayvon one of those guys, he's one of those 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:40.200 guys that is certainly one of the faces of this team. 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.080 You look at all those guys. I'm sorry, Zach Martin. 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:46.440 You look at all those guys, and they've been gone 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.359 for significant amount of time this season. So when you 0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:53.480 ask me about chemistry, it's hard to know because the 0:21:53.840 --> 0:21:56.399 leaders weren't there to be the guys that were setting 0:21:56.440 --> 0:22:00.359 the example. I think the character of this team was 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:02.800 really good, which maybe that's a part of the chemistry 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.640 because the fact that halfway through the season most people 0:22:06.720 --> 0:22:10.040 wrote them off as done and the fact that they 0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:13.680 weren't actually eliminated until last week because they got on 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:16.840 this winning streak, says the character is right, which you 0:22:16.920 --> 0:22:19.159 know that could factor into the chemistry, but it's just 0:22:19.200 --> 0:22:21.440 hard to say with chemistry just because the leadership wasn't there. 0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:25.240 No, he's absolutely right, and the character of this team. 0:22:25.320 --> 0:22:27.960 And but I've also said this, and I don't know 0:22:28.040 --> 0:22:31.240 if this is character or this is just guys realizing 0:22:31.320 --> 0:22:33.160 you you played with just a ton of young guys 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:37.280 that are not established. They kept playing, but they that's 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:41.040 their character that they you know, they're They're not Ceedee Lamb, 0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:44.359 they're not Micah Parsons, they're not Dak Prescott, They're not 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:48.400 you know, Tank Lawrence. When it comes to the compensation, 0:22:48.920 --> 0:22:51.600 I think a lot of guys showed really really high character. 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.320 But I think they showed they showed that like that 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.040 when you when you have when you can, when you 0:22:57.160 --> 0:22:58.919 have to call on them, they were able to answer 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.640 the bell. I think that says a lot about them. 0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.360 I think that maybe you can apply that to the chemistry, 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:08.639 that that the players that they got together are high character, 0:23:09.040 --> 0:23:12.440 they fit together, they're gonna play hard, They're gonna try 0:23:12.520 --> 0:23:16.440 and do what's asked of them. Initially, I'm gonna say 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:19.800 the chemistry on defense wasn't very good. I don't think 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:21.960 it was. I don't think they they I don't think 0:23:22.040 --> 0:23:26.040 the buy in of Mike Zimmer with the who was 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.600 currently playing defense for this team. I don't think there 0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.119 was a real and I use the word buy in, 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:34.200 but I don't think Mike them taught it fast enough 0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.560 or well enough. And I don't think the players they 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:40.240 were all feeling sorry for themselves because of Dan Quinn. 0:23:40.920 --> 0:23:43.520 They're all, you know, And this is just my observation, 0:23:44.040 --> 0:23:46.119 not it's not anything in the locker room or anybody 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.080 telling me anything. I'm just thinking that you got off 0:23:49.119 --> 0:23:52.280 to such a bad start on defense, and there are 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:55.040 probably some players that are like, oh damn, we gotta 0:23:55.119 --> 0:23:57.200 do this, and this guy that he wants to do this, 0:23:57.480 --> 0:24:01.720 I don't understand. I don't understand. And you know, you 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:03.800 got guys that were brought on here, like and I'm 0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:06.399 sure that Eric Kendricks, you know, he was brought on 0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.000 because he'd played in the system and stuff like that, 0:24:09.320 --> 0:24:11.480 so you know, but there came a point in time 0:24:11.560 --> 0:24:13.800 too where maybe Eric Kendricks was you know, maybe he 0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:15.719 was just the one guy saying, hey, come on, man, 0:24:15.840 --> 0:24:17.800 we could you know, you gotta you gotta buy in. 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:20.320 You gotta do this, you gotta and then they all 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.880 kind of figured out that well, damn, maybe Zim knows 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:26.960 what he's talking about. So the chemistry of Zimmer and 0:24:27.119 --> 0:24:33.720 the defense initially f where it is now C plus B, 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:36.720 you know, because they're all kind of they're playing at 0:24:36.760 --> 0:24:39.879 a better level without some of the guys who were 0:24:39.960 --> 0:24:41.280 leaders that Derek brought up. 0:24:41.520 --> 0:24:45.240 Yeah, okay, so you guys list a whole bunch of 0:24:45.359 --> 0:24:48.560 players that have been out due to injuries. How would 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:52.239 you rate the player growth overall player growth as far 0:24:52.320 --> 0:24:56.119 as like all these younger players have had to step 0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:57.520 in and step up. 0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:03.720 Wide receivers and very poor. That's an area. Offensive line 0:25:03.880 --> 0:25:06.720 I think has been good. Tight End room I think 0:25:06.840 --> 0:25:10.440 got better. You know, quarterback is that's a that's a 0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.720 veteran group, with the exception Trey Lance is not going 0:25:12.800 --> 0:25:16.359 to play. So we start to tell Cooper Rush. I 0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:19.240 think Cooper Rush did the best he could in the situation. 0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:20.239 I'll give you another one. 0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.840 They got better linebackers, Yeah, I think those young linebackers, 0:25:23.880 --> 0:25:24.960 I think they ascended. 0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:27.840 Yeah, the young linebackers got better. I think if you 0:25:27.920 --> 0:25:29.480 what what do you want to say about Rico Daddle? 0:25:29.840 --> 0:25:32.640 I think he got better. I think initially that when 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:34.680 they when they just said, well, let's try and have 0:25:34.880 --> 0:25:38.080 a you know, a two two horse rushing attack here 0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:40.960 with you know, and then they realized that, wait, Zeke 0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.720 can't get this done. And then Hunter Lipke, you know, 0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.120 they they didn't hand the ball to Hunter Lipkey anymore. 0:25:46.200 --> 0:25:49.680 And then you know, duce Faughn is douce fan And 0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:52.160 I mean that in no disrespect. I mean that duce 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.920 Vaughn is. They can't find a role for Douce Faughn. 0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:59.399 So he didn't get better because they can't find a 0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:02.480 role for me. But the but rico'dowdell got better, I 0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:05.200 think because he stayed healthy. You know, when Rico Dallas 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:10.480 stays healthy, he's a better player. The secondary, I can't 0:26:10.560 --> 0:26:13.399 say you got better. He's never had your guys. You 0:26:13.440 --> 0:26:15.160 didn't have your veteran guys there, but your. 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:18.280 Young Carson didn't yet, your young your young cornerbacks did 0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:19.600 not ambly, not not not. 0:26:19.760 --> 0:26:21.560 They didn't progress of them. 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:24.160 Not at all. And I don't think the safety room 0:26:24.240 --> 0:26:26.960 I think kind of stayed the same. I think Wilson's 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.639 a good player. I don't always trust Hooker, you know, 0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:33.320 playing but I think the offensive line, when you ask, 0:26:33.720 --> 0:26:36.280 they've gotten better running the ball in the for the 0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:40.280 last five games, They've given up not many pressures. They've 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:42.640 done their job to try. If Dak was playing behind 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.560 this line, this current line, you know it might there 0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:49.359 might be the offense might be even better. So I 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:52.240 just think they're all the things I thought this wide 0:26:52.240 --> 0:26:55.040 receiver room was going to elevate. No, it's it went 0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:56.920 It went south, went south on me. 0:26:57.040 --> 0:26:59.040 To be honest with you, I think they continue to 0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:00.720 be who they've been with is they can make a 0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.920 play splash here or there, but buying large, none of 0:27:03.960 --> 0:27:05.240 them really stepped up and took. 0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:08.520 You got one guy. It really is and I shouldn't. Turpin, 0:27:08.640 --> 0:27:10.680 I think is when you asked Turpin, put him in 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.159 the backfield, put him in the slot. You could do 0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.600 things with him. Is one of the most dynamic players 0:27:15.600 --> 0:27:17.680 in the league as a kick returner, you know, and 0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:20.440 the rules didn't really affect him all that much. Yeah, 0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:22.560 you know, he was able to bring a couple out. Heck, 0:27:22.600 --> 0:27:24.280 won a game for you there in Inlando. 0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:25.880 He might even be better with the new rules. 0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:28.320 Yeah, yeah, we kind of thought that the OTAs when 0:27:28.320 --> 0:27:30.119 I was at her watching him. You know, by the 0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.040 time he caught the ball and nobody moving, he was 0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.480 already about the thirty five yard line. Yeah, I'm like, whoa, 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:36.399 this is gonna be interesting. The ball's gonna be at 0:27:36.400 --> 0:27:38.360 the fifty all the time. They let him run it back. 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:40.119 Yeah, all right. 0:27:40.720 --> 0:27:44.760 We have talked a lot about Baltiski. 0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:46.240 Real quick too. Do you think the defensive line got 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:50.440 better with Mazie chance chance? Yeah, I'm sorry I didn't. 0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:50.720 Mean enough for that. 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:54.560 That's actually honestly, that might besive line improved. 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:56.640 I said, line probably improved the same one. 0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:02.080 Osa and and Mazzi and John C. Chauncey go. Yeah, 0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.040 they stepped up when when we were all kind of 0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:06.480 like going this group, they drafted all these guys and 0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.240 none of them play worth the dam. But they've played 0:28:09.240 --> 0:28:10.760 worth the dam this year. They really have. 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:15.720 Okay, how would you guys rate the team discipline? And 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:20.119 this all involves penalties, turnovers, and other mistakes that have 0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.639 affected the team's performance throughout the season. I know this 0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:27.400 was an area that we have criticized a whole lot, 0:28:27.720 --> 0:28:30.600 just in general, that they have struggled with in the past. 0:28:30.880 --> 0:28:34.879 Have you seen improvement in any of those areas. 0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:36.960 Yeah, I think, just like everything else in this team, 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:39.760 they're way better now than they were at the beginning 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.760 of the year. I think they're much better over the 0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:42.760 last four or five games. 0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:45.560 But what I also don't know is no guiding in there. Yeah, well, 0:28:45.600 --> 0:28:46.280 I think that's part of it. 0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.000 But I also think I also wonder if part of 0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.600 it just is like it's a better team now, like 0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:54.440 a better good teams tend to not do stupid things, right, 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:56.920 And I think they're a better team right now all 0:28:56.960 --> 0:28:59.640 the way around, like they're just playing better football. And 0:29:00.080 --> 0:29:02.440 so yeah, I think I think it's improved. I definitely 0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:03.720 think it's improved. I think you got to give them 0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:06.520 credit for that, because they are better now than any 0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:07.080 word against. 0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:07.440 Yeah. 0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.320 I can't remember how many times had to listen to 0:29:09.400 --> 0:29:14.240 Mike McCarthy opened the press conference on penalties, turnovers, penllies, turnovers, penlly, turnovers, 0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.520 you know, turn Like, I'm like, bro every week and 0:29:18.600 --> 0:29:21.040 you stand up here and you say penalties and turnovers, 0:29:21.520 --> 0:29:24.320 you do something about it, you know, or draft players 0:29:24.360 --> 0:29:26.960 that will not you know, but they they you know, 0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:30.000 Guidon hasn't played as much. The holding calls are down, 0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:33.000 you know, haven't lined up deep in the backfield, and 0:29:33.160 --> 0:29:35.840 that's you know, that's gone down. You know, there's things, 0:29:36.280 --> 0:29:38.600 you know, the corners, like a guy like Carson not 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:42.160 out there playing and they've got the legal contacts and 0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:44.960 things like that have kind of gone down. So yeah, 0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:48.000 that part of it's gotten better. But the players, the 0:29:48.080 --> 0:29:50.920 backup guys you do have been pretty disciplined football players 0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:51.239 out there. 0:29:52.080 --> 0:29:54.240 All right, I'll give a last one before the break. 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:58.480 How would you guys rate the in game decision making? 0:29:58.800 --> 0:30:02.200 So this kind of go to obviously play calling, and 0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.000 then if you want to throw in Mike Zimmer as 0:30:05.080 --> 0:30:08.120 well in there with the defense, how effected they were 0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:11.920 in in game adjustments, time management and the use of 0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:15.400 timeouts or substitutions. So anything that involves any of that. 0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:18.400 Well, I will say that the one thing we were 0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.000 harping on earlier in the year was the fact that 0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:24.240 this team seemed like they weren't as prepared because they 0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:28.440 were first quarter, third quarter, they were not doing much 0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.560 scoring and they were giving up points, and it seemed 0:30:30.560 --> 0:30:33.480 like it was a consistent theme and that has gone away. 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:35.680 That is not the narrative at this point. 0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:38.320 So in that respect, they've gotten better at being more 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:41.080 prepared in those instances when they are coming into the 0:30:41.160 --> 0:30:43.360 game and when they're starting the second half. So from 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.360 that standpoint, you got to give them credit there to 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:47.120 say that that they have gotten better when it comes 0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:48.840 to game management. I just don't think they've had as 0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:50.840 many games of consequence this year, So it's. 0:30:50.720 --> 0:30:54.360 Hard to really judge a lot of the game decisions. 0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.240 Yeah, it's hard to know, Like if you would have 0:30:57.280 --> 0:30:59.000 been in this situation, that's where you really get to 0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.320 see how much the code decisions matters when you in 0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:02.160 those close games. 0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.040 They just haven't had a ton of I. 0:31:04.120 --> 0:31:06.320 Kind of feel like the you know, earliest and I 0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:09.680 mentioned this Zimmer and them, poor job and get it done. 0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.959 You know, did you just the communication the players all 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.520 that was not good And you know, and we we 0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:18.480 we saw that. We saw huge games where huge games 0:31:18.520 --> 0:31:21.880 were rushing yards against them. Seemed like everybody was throwing 0:31:21.920 --> 0:31:24.480 the ball. They couldn't get off the field. There was 0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:27.640 only one game this year where I felt like that 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:32.160 Mike McCarthy was the reason why they lost the game Cincinnati. 0:31:33.600 --> 0:31:35.560 You know, even though they had the block pun and 0:31:35.600 --> 0:31:38.400 all that stuff like that, the running of the football 0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:40.280 and all that, you know. I mean, yeah, I had 0:31:40.320 --> 0:31:42.320 a chance, and you you know, you could have if 0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.440 you could have, you could have taken the game in 0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.720 a direction, if you would have just stayed committed to 0:31:47.920 --> 0:31:51.440 something in that game. And you didn't say. But they 0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:53.239 they were, they were in a lot of game. They were. 0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:59.080 They were knocked out of a lot of games. San Francisco, Atlanta, Philly, Houston. 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:03.520 And that's four games right after the bye, Detroit before 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.920 the bye, you were knocked out of that. That's five 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:08.760 games in a row where Mike McCarthy was not a 0:32:08.880 --> 0:32:12.040 factor in having to make a decision whether the winner lose. 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:14.720 I would hope the next guy you get if the 0:32:14.920 --> 0:32:17.680 fact that's the case. I always talk about difference makers. 0:32:18.400 --> 0:32:20.400 Find me the difference makers out there when it comes 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.000 to the coach and the way the guys are not 0:32:22.120 --> 0:32:24.280 only I think Mike does a great job of getting 0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.360 the team ready to set to Sunday. I just worry 0:32:27.400 --> 0:32:30.280 about being the difference maker on Sunday, that's all. 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:30.520 I mean. 0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:35.760 There were those weeks where everyone was saying bad practices 0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:36.720 all within practice. 0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:41.680 That's on Zimmer, that's all. That's on the staff, all 0:32:41.680 --> 0:32:43.640 of them, that's on the staff and we I also. 0:32:43.480 --> 0:32:45.800 Have to ding them a little bit. Is early part 0:32:45.840 --> 0:32:48.040 of the season when you had Dak Prescott and by 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.160 and large the offense was relatively healthy. Now Zach Martin 0:32:51.280 --> 0:32:53.840 was playing unhealthy. He was not healthy while he was playing. 0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.080 But all that being considered, like you had an offense 0:32:56.480 --> 0:32:57.920 that should have been able to do more than they 0:32:57.920 --> 0:33:00.880 could do, and it seemed like they just couldn't figure 0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:02.360 out a way to get this offense rolling. 0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:05.160 And so you got to give that to Mike and 0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.320 Mike as Mike the head. 0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:10.520 Coach, Mike, he has to take responsibility for that part 0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.680 of it, because I do think the offense has gotten 0:33:12.760 --> 0:33:15.320 better this latter part of the year, but I think 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.880 early in the year there was some significant problems and 0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:19.800 they were problems that I don't know. 0:33:20.280 --> 0:33:22.080 It didn't seem like they had a real solution for 0:33:24.040 --> 0:33:26.920 all right, But thank you, all right, good good segment. 0:33:26.920 --> 0:33:27.040 There. 0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:28.760 We're gonna take our final break. 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Yeah, they are second in 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:43.680 past defense, they are seventh and rush defense. 0:36:44.040 --> 0:36:46.400 They are fourth in points allowed. 0:36:47.080 --> 0:36:49.400 Uh, they've only allowed a three hundred yard past one 0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:51.480 time the season half. That was in a Week four 0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:54.240 I think it was game where they lost at Tampa 0:36:54.320 --> 0:36:55.920 Bay where they gave up three hundred and thirty. 0:36:55.719 --> 0:36:57.440 Four and they were really banged up. They didn't have 0:36:57.480 --> 0:36:59.200 any of their offensive players in that game too. 0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:01.000 It's tough game for them. But that being said, that's 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:05.759 the only game. So looking at this, Brian, is there 0:37:05.960 --> 0:37:09.200 any part of their of their past defense where you like, 0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.719 if there is a way for Dallas to take advantage, 0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:13.760 here would be the way that they could take advantage. 0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.399 Yeah, I mean you're gonna You're gonna get the one 0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:22.279 thing that it's gonna be difficult without Ceedee Lamb in 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:26.239 this game because they're gonna find a way to match you. 0:37:26.920 --> 0:37:34.280 There guys Slay Mitchell the rookie and and Cooper de jene. 0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:38.360 They got two rookies and Slay and like I said earlier, 0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:43.440 they just don't allow completions. Uh, they stay with you 0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:47.160 and coverage. There's very little separation in the way that 0:37:47.239 --> 0:37:50.640 they play, they're gonna rush for man what what they 0:37:50.760 --> 0:37:53.400 did to Cooper rush And I'm interested to see if 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.160 they do this this time around there ambar And and Derek, 0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.839 they strictly played claw and cover against him the last 0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.279 when he made his opening the start after Dak got hurt, 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:10.200 clogging cover rush four, drop seven, rush for drop seven, 0:38:10.239 --> 0:38:13.000 and they did it the whole game to him. And 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:15.560 so it's like this said, listen, we're not going to 0:38:15.680 --> 0:38:19.160 let him. And what happened was then the ball was 0:38:19.200 --> 0:38:22.320 just kept going check down, underneath, underneath, underneath, underneath. The 0:38:22.320 --> 0:38:26.480 ball never went down the field. And so I have 0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:30.880 a feeling with with no Lamb, are they going to 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.080 take some shots down the field? Are there going to 0:38:33.120 --> 0:38:35.920 be Can you take some shots with Cooks? You know? 0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.120 Can you try and take some shots with Tolbert down 0:38:39.160 --> 0:38:43.600 the field? If I'm Dallas? They they did have watching 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:46.600 the game, Dallas had some success with the inside run 0:38:47.719 --> 0:38:51.400 with you know, with Rico o'dowdle. Do you get in 0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.400 that twelve personnel package, try and make them have to 0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.360 defend your run. Now there they've got some inside players 0:38:57.400 --> 0:39:01.240 that have got some size, you know, Milton Williams, Jordan Davis, 0:39:01.680 --> 0:39:04.520 Jalen Carter, Nolan Smith. Nolan Smith's playing a lot better 0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:08.640 for them. Zach Bond, the the linebacker is going to 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.080 make every single tackle. Dean has been a guy that's 0:39:12.160 --> 0:39:13.600 kind of been a little bit of a sidekick. You 0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.360 thought Dean was going to be the guy that was 0:39:15.400 --> 0:39:17.480 going to be the difference maker here. It's actually Zach 0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.400 Bond is the one that has made the difference. And 0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:24.319 then they're gonna get CJ. Gardner Johnson, They're gonna get 0:39:24.480 --> 0:39:26.359 him down in the box too to have to play 0:39:26.480 --> 0:39:29.360 run defense. So it's gonna be it's gonna be a 0:39:29.440 --> 0:39:31.719 tough game to have to throw the ball. Even though 0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.480 Cooper Rush has done a better job the last four 0:39:34.600 --> 0:39:37.359 games of getting the ball down the field. Those air 0:39:37.520 --> 0:39:40.359 yards have improved, and he and he's and he's he's 0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:44.200 thrown he's got six touchdowns, no interceptions, you know, with those, 0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:48.040 but it's it's going to be a challenge of can 0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:51.040 you can you block this front and then can you 0:39:51.239 --> 0:39:54.839 find a way to win on the outside, And these 0:39:55.000 --> 0:39:56.960 these corners make it very very difficult to do that. 0:39:57.480 --> 0:39:59.880 They were so bad, They were so bad last year 0:40:00.160 --> 0:40:02.520 in the secondary and now they're really good. 0:40:03.200 --> 0:40:05.920 You want to feel a little bit better knowing that 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:10.840 Cooper Bush has improved some and that it wasn't just 0:40:11.000 --> 0:40:13.880 one target. He has been able to complete passes with 0:40:14.320 --> 0:40:19.680 multiple different targets. But again, you not having City Lamb 0:40:20.200 --> 0:40:25.399 changes everything. And that's the big thing for this game, 0:40:25.560 --> 0:40:29.640 because I don't I don't trust this offense to be 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.160 able to do anything without a City Lamb. 0:40:32.239 --> 0:40:35.400 They can now go double Ferguson is what they can do. 0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.239 They don't have to worry about, you know, what they 0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:40.719 what they're gonna do is like in those you know, 0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:43.239 the later it gets in the in the in the 0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:46.480 series third down, they're gonna play those split safeties. They're 0:40:46.480 --> 0:40:48.879 gonna play cover two, and they're gonna try and make 0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:51.520 you throw underneath, is what you know. That's their plan. 0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:56.680 Vic Fangio, the veteran defensive coordinator. Last time you face 0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.960 Vi Fangio was with it was when he was with 0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.520 the Dolphins last year, you know, and that was with 0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.840 Dak Prescott at quarterback. So he's he's got a gauge 0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:06.800 of how to kind of how to how to play you, 0:41:06.920 --> 0:41:09.759 and you just don't have enough. I don't think you 0:41:09.800 --> 0:41:14.240 have enough weapons to to really affect how the Eagles 0:41:14.239 --> 0:41:15.640 are going to play you defensively. 0:41:15.960 --> 0:41:18.360 When you look at their run defense, that is the 0:41:18.440 --> 0:41:20.800 worst of the two. There's still seventh in run defensive. 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:23.400 They're pretty good there as well. But what have you 0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:25.279 seen that other teams may have been able to do 0:41:25.360 --> 0:41:28.280 against them? From a standpoint of running the balls inside? 0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:28.880 Dallas can do. 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:31.680 Yeah, the inside run stuff, I think is where you're at. 0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:34.279 I mean, you've you know, you've got to find a way. 0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:39.240 Like sometimes these defensive tackles Smith David, they'll play xpect 0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:43.320 Carter and ut Smithy, they will play upright, and so 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:46.320 you have big heavy guys that come out since and 0:41:46.400 --> 0:41:48.640 play upright and they don't have them they don't have 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.800 the lateral. So now you've got bodies in them. And 0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:54.520 then you've got rico' daddle hitting that hole or hitting 0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:57.520 that that crease, you know, getting. I mean, all you 0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.680 really are trying to do against the Eagles defense is 0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:03.320 have successful runs four plus yards, you know, four plus yards. 0:42:03.880 --> 0:42:06.719 Just put a bunch of successful runs together, and that's 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:09.239 really how you, I think the best way to try 0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:11.640 and move the ball in these guys, because if it 0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:13.840 turns into now now Cooper Rush will get rid of 0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:15.719 the ball. He's one of the tops in the in 0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.359 the in the UH, in the in the NFL when 0:42:18.400 --> 0:42:21.480 it comes to time throat when he when he gets back, 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:23.359 when he gets that ball, it's getting out of his hands. 0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:25.879 So you don't get a lot of pressures. You don't 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.480 get a lot of sacks. You get sacks when breakdowns happening. 0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.920 Then he stops. But I kind of feel like, though 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:34.680 that Dallas, if it's just a matter of winning on 0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:37.600 the outside and and but you asked me about the run, 0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:40.960 and I think it's just inside between the tackles, and 0:42:41.080 --> 0:42:43.839 then trying to take advantage of those big bodies, get 0:42:43.920 --> 0:42:46.600 to get somebody into them, get a double team on, 0:42:46.840 --> 0:42:50.439 and then have have the ball cut off that double team. 0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:52.879 There one more quick note before we end the show. 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:55.520 It's looking more and more like the Cowboys will not 0:42:55.600 --> 0:42:58.719 fake Sjalen hurts. He's had that con custom protocol. Canny 0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.560 Pickett has been taking first reps, so it looks like 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:04.160 they may be without their quarterback as well. I think 0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:07.600 this week, obviously, this game is of little consequence of 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:10.080 the Cowboys from the standpoint of playoffs. So I don't 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:11.640 know that we necessarily need to pick the game. But 0:43:11.680 --> 0:43:12.800 here's what I want to do. I want to go 0:43:12.840 --> 0:43:14.279 around the table and I want you guys to tell 0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.000 me if the Cowboys win, this is how it likely 0:43:17.120 --> 0:43:20.439 has to happen. That makes sense, Yeah, all right, ambe, 0:43:20.480 --> 0:43:21.040 let's start with you. 0:43:23.320 --> 0:43:26.040 I would say, if they win, it's because they were 0:43:26.120 --> 0:43:30.879 able to run the ball successfully on offense. I think 0:43:31.040 --> 0:43:35.319 that you cannot solely rely or trust a passing game 0:43:35.440 --> 0:43:40.960 currently without a CD Lamb especially, I think I trust 0:43:41.000 --> 0:43:44.480 the Dallas defense to be able to create pressure and 0:43:44.640 --> 0:43:48.520 do their job and keep it competitive at least. And 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:54.719 I would say obviously not turning over the ball like 0:43:55.000 --> 0:43:58.480 Cooper Rush, going back to making some of those mistakes 0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:00.680 where all of a sudden he's throwing the ball just. 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:01.040 To throw it. 0:44:01.120 --> 0:44:03.320 You're like, oh, where who are you throwing it to? 0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:07.680 I think I hope he's able to progress from last 0:44:07.760 --> 0:44:11.720 week and keep improving in that area and just be smarter. 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:15.360 I think we've seen them be capable of moving the 0:44:15.440 --> 0:44:19.120 ball down the field, but it's just again what happens 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:20.680 in the red zone and all of that, And I 0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:23.319 think it all starts with the running game and how 0:44:23.440 --> 0:44:26.640 successful Rico dal will be in this game. 0:44:27.200 --> 0:44:30.560 Yeah, make Kenny Pickett a passer and then win it 0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:33.879 with Turpin in the special teams. If you could find 0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.080 a way to get off the field, make Turpin that 0:44:36.160 --> 0:44:39.680 those hidden yards, whether the punt returned stuff. You know, 0:44:40.480 --> 0:44:43.600 we've seen the Cowboys go to the Philadelphia and win 0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.319 games with block punts and things like that and big 0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.120 special teams place. I think you're gonna need some big 0:44:49.120 --> 0:44:52.719 special teams place. Create some field position here, but make 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.480 Kenny Pickett have to beat you throw in the football. 0:44:55.480 --> 0:44:57.680 They're very, very capable with the wide receiver spot and 0:44:57.760 --> 0:44:59.879 all that, but if you're making him throw the ball, 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:02.680 that means you're choking the run. But make Canny pick 0:45:02.760 --> 0:45:04.560 it be. If Dallas wins this game, it's because they 0:45:04.600 --> 0:45:05.759 made him a passer. Yep. 0:45:05.960 --> 0:45:07.440 I agree with that wholeheartedly. 0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:09.160 I think in addition to that, the way I look 0:45:09.200 --> 0:45:10.800 at it is you're gonna have to get some scoring 0:45:11.160 --> 0:45:13.200 from other parts of your team. I think defense, special 0:45:13.239 --> 0:45:14.399 teams are gonna have to get some score. 0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:16.800 Washington game, it's gonna have to be a Commander scame. 0:45:16.640 --> 0:45:17.919 Or they're gonna have to give you short field. 0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:19.920 Yeah, sure, short of fields, so you can take advantage 0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:21.120 and get a couple of plays here and there, and 0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:22.680 then you're in the inn zone. But this is gonna 0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:24.359 be a game where the defense special team is gonna 0:45:24.360 --> 0:45:24.840 have to win it for you. 0:45:24.960 --> 0:45:26.960 Remember, remember they gave you a short field, they gave 0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:28.400 you the ball in the five, and Dallas kicked a 0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:29.440 field goal the last time. 0:45:29.520 --> 0:45:32.239 There's team different team back then, Yeah, different I think 0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:35.200 different different team, right, different team. All right, we'repprecaid you 0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:38.000 got more banged up team. Yeah, we apprecid you guys. 0:45:38.040 --> 0:45:40.279 Johonna back on Monday. We'll let's you know what went 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.399 right and wrong for the Cowboys till then. For Brian 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:44.279 brought us Namagarcia. 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