WEBVTT - S2E6 - Iron Sisters 0:00:34.479 --> 0:00:38.239 Well, good morning, afternoon, dum. It is often for me. 0:00:38.280 --> 0:00:40.239 I know, it's tricky, isn't it. At the time difference, 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.440 It's like, I don't know why it can't just be 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:45.640 the same time. Everybody doesn't make any sense, I know, right, 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.520 especially with daylight savings time, it's just all over the place. 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:51.519 Who knows. I can't even did we go back, we 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:55.160 went forward? I think you went back, but you went 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:57.120 back like a few days after we did over here, 0:00:57.200 --> 0:00:59.920 and so it's just it's all occurdfuffle. It's very confusing, 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:03.400 very unnecessarily confused. I have a watch upstairs somewhere that 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.160 has the world time on it, so I can adjust 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:08.720 it and I can see what the time is another 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:10.840 time zones, which is super useful, but I have to 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:12.800 keep it in the correct time as well, and if 0:01:12.800 --> 0:01:14.560 I don't do that then it's just useless. So well, 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:23.399 that's brilliant, yeah, um, speaking of speaking of indeed, what 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:25.200 are we diving into today? Let's have a little look. 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:29.039 See it's season two, episode six, entitled The Iron Sisters. 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.080 This this end on My Birthday? O no way that dead? Yeah. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:36.400 February six, Written by Alison Reimer, directed by Michael Roll, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:38.600 I don't know why I just called him Michael, It 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.039 says Mike. I think we all called him Mike, but 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:43.840 I just added Michael. Sorry Mike. Directed by Mike Role. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:46.000 What are we in forecap? And what are we getting 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.600 into today? Let's see Isabel's secret maybe revealed. Clary and 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.520 Isabel head to the Citadel looking for answers to help 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:55.160 get answers to what Valentine may be planning. Isabel and 0:01:55.200 --> 0:01:57.640 Clary are sent on a mission to visit the Iron Sisters. 0:01:58.040 --> 0:02:00.680 Once they're more truths may be revealed than Izzy and 0:02:00.720 --> 0:02:03.400 Clary planned. On a mission of their own. Simon and 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:05.919 Maya are determined to find Luke, who is still missing 0:02:05.960 --> 0:02:09.079 after the demon attack at the Institute. Meanwhile, Magnus and 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.160 Alec finally go on their first date. So much happens, 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:15.120 so much happens. Wow, So what are you doing in 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.520 this episode? Nothing? I was just thinking that, I guess 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:21.160 I do nothing this episode. I remember there I we 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.640 did a deleted scene with a Lissa, which was awesome 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:27.079 because she played Lindsay and we had this whole sort 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:30.080 of weird flirty scene on camera, which is really good 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.079 fun to do because she's a great actor. But it 0:02:32.160 --> 0:02:36.000 got deleted, so I think I think, LISTA, you're not alone. 0:02:36.040 --> 0:02:38.320 I think both of our scenes got deleted from this 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:40.639 might be the This might honestly be the episode. And 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:44.120 me scampoard a little. There's me telling you not to 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.320 do something. I think this is weapons cleaning, I really do. 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:50.079 I think that's what I do all episode. This is 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.760 a light episode for me, but it's dull, like you 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:55.040 guys roll off doing stuff like where did you fit? 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.880 We'll get to it, but like you weren't even in Toronto. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:02:59.440 I don't think so. I was just like a week 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.040 and a half to sort of on my own. We well, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:03.800 if some of us were, amarand and I were. We 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.120 were at the Castle of north of the city, where 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:08.519 they also filmed a lot of the X Men movies 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.120 and the Rocky Horror Picture Show remake and a lot 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.239 of other things. It's just this, yeah, and the new 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.399 Gotham Knights on the c W. I think shot there 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:20.399 a lot. It's a it's this one castle that's up 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:23.320 sort of up in the kind of fancier part of 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:25.400 the city, a little bit north of where we lived. 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:32.840 Interesting I am in this episode, like three, It just 0:03:32.919 --> 0:03:36.400 whis post the whole thing barely in it. Um, so 0:03:36.440 --> 0:03:38.920 we get to admire everyone else's performances, which I'm really 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.440 looking forward to fabulous, insanely jealous that I'm not in 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:43.680 this episode, but there you are. Oh, here's a here's 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.520 a little book to screen tidbit. So Lisa Barry, who 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.520 we adore from Supernatural and Everything Else, also one of 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:55.600 the loveliest human beings have come across. She plays Sister Cleophus, 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:57.920 who in the books, Sister Cleophus is Luke's mother, but 0:03:58.120 --> 0:04:00.800 in this we've made it Luke's sister. I think they 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.520 just like the name clear is better to be honest, Yeah, 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.960 to be honest, and that's entirely fair. What was her 0:04:07.080 --> 0:04:09.480 name in the book? Her name in the book was 0:04:09.480 --> 0:04:15.040 a Matis m also pretty good, also pretty solid. Stattle 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.400 Hunters just have badass names. I gotta say, Yeah, you 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:19.919 do have good names. Wasn't one of these one of 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.520 these eight? So the episode is playing now, um and 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:26.480 they're doing the big wire work fight scene. Wasn't one 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:29.400 of these women pregnant? Am I losing my mind? Or 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:31.240 was one of these women pregnant when they did this? No? 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:32.839 I think you're right, but I think it might have 0:04:32.839 --> 0:04:36.599 been one of the stunt doubles. Oh wow. Okay, I 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:39.440 don't remember, but I remember I remember hearing about that. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.760 I don't know, but I just remember how excited Darren 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:44.360 was about this fight scene and about how they planned it. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.080 Because they had to do the wire I think this 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:47.760 was one of the first times when we finally had 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:50.039 our full green screen stage because they had to do 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:53.480 they couldn't hang the wires in the castle, obviously, because 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.799 it's an old castle and it's you I'm not safe 0:04:55.800 --> 0:05:00.080 to throw people around on it. But they they were 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.240 able to do it on our green screen and then 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:05.240 transfer that giant stunt with them clashing in the air. 0:05:05.320 --> 0:05:07.080 Because these what what you're seeing here is all these 0:05:07.080 --> 0:05:08.880 women in white robes, and it's a bit it's a 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.120 bit confusing if you don't know. But the Iron Sisters 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:14.880 are basically like the warrior Nuns of the Shadow World, 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.960 as it were. They create all of our gear and 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:23.279 garb and our weapons and all that stuff. They commit 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.919 their entire lives to forging Atomus into learning how to 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:30.800 handle this supernatural medal because it kills demons. It's an 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.680 angelically aligned element. I don't really remember this episode. If 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:37.160 I'm honest, I'm like, yeah, I'm on. I'm on I 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:39.600 cor or equal duty throughout this so I get to 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:46.040 clean messy swords and that's that's it. That's me. Oh 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:48.440 this is uh, this is the episode as well, whereas 0:05:48.440 --> 0:05:50.080 he's like, hey, Clary, do you want to come on 0:05:50.160 --> 0:05:53.240 mission with me and not you? Jason? Yeah, why don't 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:56.599 I get taken on this mission because you're on equal duty? 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.120 Oh yeah, that's right, You're still in the doghouse. That's right, 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.600 I'm in the doghouse, remember, And we have our two 0:06:01.600 --> 0:06:06.680 favorite vampires having a conversation. Yep, I forget. Did Simon's 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:11.640 mom meet Rafael yet it's happening right now. Actually yeah. 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.320 Last episode, Simon told his mom I'm a vampire and 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.480 she laughed and was like, no, it's fine. And then 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.880 Rafael showed up and has 'encantered her and he was, hey, 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:28.480 I'm your band manager. Ah, that's right. She is great stuff, 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.000 great stuff. The dynamic between these three is always so good, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:37.920 Like they have this sort of constant air of like danger, 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:41.040 like impending doom between the three of them, and they 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:43.480 managed to make that last for like three seasons, which 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.320 is crazy. Yeah, Well, if you think about it, if 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.880 any of any scenario, the stakes are the highest. They're 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:52.000 arguably because his mom is human and it's at the 0:06:52.040 --> 0:06:55.680 blink of an eye she could be not human. Yeah, 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.400 steaks pun intended? No, I know, That's what I was 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.160 wondering if you were going to jump onto up with 0:07:00.240 --> 0:07:01.680 that one. And I was like, I'm gonna leave it 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:04.560 just in case this was an accidental part. You do puns, 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:08.840 You make puns, make puns. Do puns? Perform puns so 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.840 often that they're now seeping their way into your subconscious 0:07:11.840 --> 0:07:15.240 everyday life. My god, the poor guys on your set. 0:07:15.680 --> 0:07:20.480 How many eight seventies puns have you found? Ah? Very few, 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.680 maybe about five, And I don't remember any of them 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:25.200 at the moment, but but I've managed to find them. 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.240 I was having a steak dinner once and I went 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:29.840 like this, I sort of raised the steak above my 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:32.040 head on the plate and then what are you doing? 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:35.400 And when I'm raising the steaks, name that. Wow? Did 0:07:35.440 --> 0:07:37.560 it make them laugh or they all tried to kill you? Yet? 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.120 Half laugh? Half grown? Yeah? Okay, cool. Do you have 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.840 someone tasting your water? Like every time someone brings you water? 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:45.840 Like I don't know it. This was this was a 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.800 heavy pun day. So I think they might try and 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:52.200 poison me. Nah, not yet. I'm taking my chances. Mhma. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.280 Good for you. We tried it, just never took. I 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.240 think we accidentally made you immune to a bunch of 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:02.080 different poisons. She's dealing with the yin fan as well. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:03.960 When do we get to the yin fin thing? Wait 0:08:04.000 --> 0:08:06.160 a second, we have alder Tree and Isabelle, so Clary 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.200 isabel how a scene where isabel was checking in and 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:09.840 being like, hey, are you okay? How you doing? Your 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:12.320 mom just died? And Claire is going no, I don't care. 0:08:12.480 --> 0:08:15.160 I have to stay on mission, and as he goes 0:08:15.200 --> 0:08:17.880 I can take Alec and Clary kind of snapster and 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.440 says no, Alec isn't the doghouse too. Yeah, you spend 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.120 a lot of time in the doghouse. We now have 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:26.119 a scene with alder Tree and Isabelle where she goes, hey, 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:29.760 I'm going on mission. Can I get some more drugs? Please? Yeah? Um? 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.839 He's asking her in return to the infan just by 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:35.320 on Clary because they're afraid that Clary may also have 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:40.439 demon blood and planting a seed of doubt, asking me 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:44.760 to sly On Clary, sply, my god, spy, You're asking 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:48.720 me to spy on Clary for drugs. That's not ideal. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:53.640 It's not not ideal. But Aldo Tree knows his his tactics, 0:08:53.800 --> 0:08:56.000 and Simon's moving back to the boat and he's not wrong. 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:59.280 I mean, he's wrong for like buying secrets with drugs. 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.840 That's a horrible thing to do. But like the baseline 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:06.560 of suspicion, he's kind of correct about like I came 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.400 into you my one scene in this episode, I came 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.680 into I'm gonna stop mentioning it probably at no point, 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:13.960 so just gear up because I'm gonna keep bitching about 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.319 the fact that I'm not in this episode at all. 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:17.160 I wonder if I kissed someone off. Do you think 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.080 I pissed someone up? Like I made someone cross at 0:09:19.120 --> 0:09:21.480 me and like one of the writers maybe or someone 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.560 and they were like, funck, Jason, he's going to clean 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.320 swords and that's it. I don't think so. Not Alison, 0:09:27.400 --> 0:09:32.360 at least, because Allison wrote this episode. It seemed very sweetheart. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.199 I'm sorry if I Alison, and that's why this episode 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:40.480 I apologize. Six years later, I apologize. Um, oh, it's 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:42.560 it just keeps going. I need like a like a 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.680 clicker to pause it when I stopped paying attention, or 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:47.840 like I feel like Samsung came up with an idea 0:09:47.840 --> 0:09:50.040 a while ago that if your if your eyes drifted 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:52.720 off the screen, it would it would stop playing, or 0:09:52.720 --> 0:09:54.520 you could like scroll with your eyes it would see 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:55.920 when your eyes got to the bottom or whatever. And 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.200 it never really took off, or maybe it did have Samsung. 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.040 I don't know, Um one of that is relevant to 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.320 the podcast. That's just where my head is at. I've 0:10:03.320 --> 0:10:06.559 had too much coffee and that's where I'm at. Hey, listen, 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:10.520 I've had multiple cans of this today, so I'm just no, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:13.280 it's Celsius White Claude, not in the morning. He came 0:10:13.440 --> 0:10:16.200 half work in an hour, I listen. I don't know. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.600 I don't know how you get by. Everyone has a different, 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:22.080 different vice. Whatever you need, I get it. You know 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.520 mine is caffeine and apples. Pretty much caffeine and apples. 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:28.920 So it hasn't really changed. No, speaking of what else 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:30.920 has it changed. Simon is stuck in the boat base 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:35.600 and again, and it's calling Clary to check in, not 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:38.000 telling her what's going on. Of course, because they're best friends. 0:10:38.000 --> 0:10:39.880 Why would they tell each other everything? It would make 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:43.440 life so much easier. But now there he's now going 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.640 on mission to find Luke, and I'm going with, oh, yeah, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.320 because Luke went missing at the end of the last 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:54.439 episode and then and then appear it's naked Joel LaBelle, 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.480 Sassy Lavelle had a boy. He this I'm going to 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:01.480 screenshot that face. This is the sassist I've ever seen him, 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:04.160 and they send that to him. This is so funny. 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.319 That is my new favorite. That's it's that's going to 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:09.480 be when he calls me. That's what that's going to 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.600 look like. I'm so exciting. Yeah, it's like, oh, what 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:17.040 you're concerned about Luke? Now. Honestly, this relationship, these relationships 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:20.280 in general, these like the sort of power struggle men. 0:11:20.720 --> 0:11:23.280 It's all like very soft and in love and in taste, 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.240 but then also every now and then a little bravado 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.160 gets into it. I love it. I think it's absolutely brilliant. 0:11:28.640 --> 0:11:31.800 I also love all the down world politics and interactions 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:34.120 that we get to see throughout the series. The shadow 0:11:34.160 --> 0:11:36.679 Hunters are one thing, but the different politics between different 0:11:36.679 --> 0:11:38.520 creatures and how they work and how they interact and 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:43.400 the difference between the sort of ingrained assumed differences and 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:47.200 assumed feuds and then assumed you know, the political ones, 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.959 and then as the story come, Yeah, the difference in 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.080 the political and the biological I guess right, Like, especially 0:11:53.120 --> 0:11:55.600 with the whales and the vampire, biologically are very different 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:58.480 creatures that sort of survive in similar ways they ended up. 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:00.199 I think if you were to look at it sort 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.520 of from an evil evolutionary standpoint, they would almost be 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.440 like competitors with each other, um, sort of living in 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.080 the same sort of area. And then the politics, the 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:13.160 politics were taught, right, so there's like the instinctual rivalry 0:12:13.160 --> 0:12:18.240 and then there's the taught the secondary rivalry. Also Maya's 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.199 Rene Jane eyre is that reference is that of note 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:23.160 to us? I think it's a book thing. It's a 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:25.280 book that needs a book thing. I think Maya is 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:28.640 reading that book. Yeah, she's just she's into books. Oh, 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.400 I see it's in the books of our show that 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.600 she's reading that book. It's a book within a book. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:35.680 It's a book within a book. We put a book 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:39.000 within a book, got it? Jeffs get rights for things 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.520 like Jane Eyre ever, I think Jane Eyre might be 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:43.920 what's it called. I don't know, I know what you're 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:45.719 trying to say, and I also can't think of the 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:49.080 word anyway. It's beyond it's so old that is no 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.360 longer copy written. I think got it, got it, got it? 0:12:51.760 --> 0:12:54.719 There you go. Now, next we have naked Isaiah run 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:58.240 into the woods looking at a deer. It's kind of hungry. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:03.800 He's gonna eat a dear for that. Venison is no no, 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.959 but shout out to folks. I was going to say 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:12.040 that looks awesome, yeah, or Isaiah really going for it 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:16.920 here with the contortions, Wow, that's really something. Okay, the 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.280 birds in the trees that kind of fly away as 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.440 he hits, do you think that was happenstance that they 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.440 caught it? Or do you think that's folks? I honestly 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.880 don't know. I mean, if you got there early in 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.360 the morning, you knew the birds are going to be there, 0:13:28.360 --> 0:13:32.000 and you shot off like a blank or like you 0:13:32.000 --> 0:13:33.720 know what I mean, like they do it for like 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:36.520 pheasant hunting. Here you've got like they're called beaters. I've 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:39.040 never been pheasant hunting, but I hear tell that they've 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:40.880 got beaters, and you go and they've got like sticks, 0:13:40.920 --> 0:13:42.600 and they bring the dogs and they bark and they 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.000 make a lot of noise, and then all the birds 0:13:44.240 --> 0:13:46.600 leave the trees. So I would assume that you could 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:48.400 do something like that, But then I would also assume 0:13:48.440 --> 0:13:51.280 that there's probably some sort of legality of protection of 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:53.360 these poor animals. Like first thing in the morning, they're 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:55.280 just getting scared shipless by someone trying to make a 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.600 TV show. I'm just getting credit fleep with that. Then yeah, 0:13:58.679 --> 0:14:01.240 let's say, fleep did it that way? Nobody gets in trouble. 0:14:02.480 --> 0:14:05.360 Magnus is making a grocery list, by the way, I 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.400 keep saying, crops of him in grays and he looks fantastic, 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:11.480 and so does it's a Harry. It's strange to see 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:13.920 him with his hair down though, you know, like we 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:15.640 either saw him on set or he was wearing a hat. 0:14:15.880 --> 0:14:19.000 We very rarely saw him. He loves a hat, so 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:20.800 it's very rare that I saw him without a hot on. 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.120 So it's like watching a different It's like watching a 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.600 stranger kind of who looks exactly like my body. It's interesting. 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.440 He's a chameleon. Oh what I love about this? I 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.320 called you an emergency. I'm not okay because you're not okay. Okay, 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:36.520 he knows that Alec is upset because he accidentally kills 0:14:36.560 --> 0:14:41.640 because he ripped someone's heart out, understand and totally totally fair. 0:14:42.080 --> 0:14:43.640 Even if that was on purpose, I feel like you 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.720 would say, like if you're the worst kind of person 0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:48.600 and you're like, yeah, today's heart ripping day, I feel 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:52.480 like you'd still have some concerns of that. Like that 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.440 was a little much, actually, that one. Yeah, that was 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:56.680 a little like I never saw a Hannibal Lecter ripped 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.080 someone's heart out, you know what I mean? Although I 0:14:59.080 --> 0:15:01.120 guess he must have done. He must have done. I mean, 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.360 unless you're, like you know, Ed Dean or Jeffrey Dahmer, 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.720 I think probably have a little bit of remorse. Agreed, 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.120 maya reachion? Now, Yeah, what's she doing? What's going on here? 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.600 She's a she's checking out our fellow asignment here. Oh 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:15.240 I missed the boat Basin. That was one of my 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:19.240 favorite set. It was good set, like a full practical 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:20.920 set as well. It just is what it is, and 0:15:21.000 --> 0:15:23.200 it was just kind of there for three seasons. It 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:25.520 was just like this little it was because it's literally 0:15:25.560 --> 0:15:28.520 on the back of our studios. So for everyone who 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:31.200 wasn't there except for Cat and I, for everyone listening 0:15:31.240 --> 0:15:34.320 who didn't come to the studio day after day for 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:37.040 four years. Studio let's say it was like a big 0:15:37.040 --> 0:15:38.760 square like this, and then Studio I was on this 0:15:38.800 --> 0:15:40.400 side and Studio he was on this Side's all in 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.960 the same warehouse, and then behind it on this side 0:15:43.000 --> 0:15:44.800 sort of there was like train tracks back here that 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.240 were never really used except for when we were right 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:50.360 there filming, and then the longest trains in the history 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:54.040 of mankind would blow past us. There was like those towers, 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.360 those big staff towers that we call the Raccoon towers 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.400 because the family Raccoons lived up there, and then next 0:15:58.440 --> 0:16:00.720 to that was the boat based and just a big 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.720 like sheds they turned into a boat basin. There you go, 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:09.040 that's the geographical layout of our studio. You're welcome. Welcome 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:12.760 to Shadow Hunters geography with don Um Simon and I 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:17.000 have never met before. And she goes, wait, how do 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:20.040 you know? How do you know, Luke? And then a 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:25.880 budding friendship is born as they to fledgling down rollers 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:29.040 go to find their adoptive father, a little little lesson 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.400 in wearabolfing and a little lesson in uh Simon Luke 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:36.920 history m Vampire. I mean, yeah, you guys are on 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:40.160 green screen here when you arrive at We did this 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.440 on green screen. I think we did this as a 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:44.160 you know those pickups we used to do at the 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.400 end of the season, and we did a million little 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.320 pieces of all the green screen stuff. I think that 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:51.000 was one of those days. I don't think we had 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:52.880 the stage yet. I don't think we ended up with 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.280 the full stage yet. And in fact, all of that 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.040 screen screen does the hands and that all that statute, 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:01.720 that's all. That's all fully. Yeah, it looks great, good job, 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.000 and then they just appear. Welcome to a bunch of 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.680 swords and spears to our threats. Just another power that 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:11.679 we never really explained. We've never really seen the spears before. No, 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:14.720 they end up being if you remember we used those 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.359 in season three, they end up being the Seely the 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:20.080 sely ones, that's what they end up being. I remember, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:21.919 because I had that, I had to stop on my 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.000 forearm for a bit and like one of those things 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:27.399 that you get to that stage of like of stunts 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.680 where you sort of get a little cocky with yourself, 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:32.240 which is where I was, and they were like, do 0:17:32.240 --> 0:17:33.879 you want to do you want an armbracer? And I 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:36.280 was like, I want to embracer. No way is Aaron 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.239 wearing What is my stuntuble wearing one? They were like no. 0:17:38.480 --> 0:17:40.000 I was like, then no, I don't want it. Aaron 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.240 did it three times and I did it forty times 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:44.240 and didn't think about it. So I had like a 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:47.000 golf ball. It looked like it was hiding underneath my 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:49.960 arms every time, and every time, your adrenaline is going, 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.280 your blood's going every time. To the stunt team, I'm like, 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.600 getting there, going really go for it, like because you 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:56.119 don't really feel it at the time, and then the 0:17:56.200 --> 0:18:02.479 next day I'm like, so fain. Anyway, that was those spears. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:07.400 We'll talk about that much later. Much like that. Thank 0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:10.439 you for the audio example of your Yeah, that's what 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.760 I sounded like, just flesh on wood, but the wood 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:16.359 was hitting me and I what just happened there was 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:19.159 I need my need, my desk. We don't do that 0:18:35.400 --> 0:18:37.879 while you're recovering from your wounds. Let's go back to 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:42.600 this episode and the our ancestors are interrogating these ladies 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:45.400 trying to figure out why they're they're they're asking questions 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:49.199 about Valentine a lot of furtive glances because oh guess what, 0:18:49.280 --> 0:18:52.360 I'm Yes, I'm his daughter, but I'm not him, going 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.439 in truthful? Right? So cool? What is it? It was 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:57.760 cold as well? I remember you telling me this was cold, right, 0:18:58.720 --> 0:19:01.480 It actually wasn't so had we thought it was gonna 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.320 be freezing because we shot this in October. But you know, 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.919 as you know, there's there's a difference in October in 0:19:07.160 --> 0:19:11.360 Toronto versus October in other places, and sometimes it's incredibly warm, um, 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.200 in which case this it actually was, and they actually 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:17.879 filled a physical fountain that existed there. Um. But you know, 0:19:17.920 --> 0:19:21.000 it's supposed to be a pool that's five six ft deep, um, 0:19:21.080 --> 0:19:24.119 but this pool was maybe about two ft deep maybe, 0:19:25.000 --> 0:19:27.159 So we had to pretend to be floating in this 0:19:27.600 --> 0:19:30.919 you know, bottomless pit of a pool without hitting the 0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:36.800 tarp that was touching our feet. What scenes man? Yeah, oh, 0:19:36.840 --> 0:19:39.760 just just a little purity trial, which you know, Clary 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.359 and Isabella are both slightly worried about. It's like the 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.720 COVID test of the time. You know, it's like you 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:47.159 just go, I don't think I've got anything going on, 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:50.880 but I hope, but it's probably worth checking out. It's 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:54.200 just for a second. Also, huge shout out to our 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:59.400 construction team because they actually welded this bridge that goes 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.240 into the pool. Um you see it for a brief 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:05.800 moment before scene of view. And yeah, the the little 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.880 separdge that goes into the pool of the Purity Clarity 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:15.080 pool thing that was built by our team from from scratch. Wow. 0:20:15.560 --> 0:20:19.560 M solid work. Solid. Now, speaking of solid work, let's 0:20:19.560 --> 0:20:23.040 watch this scene between you and uh Nick Segar. Look 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:27.919 at those two steely glances who honestly like there was 0:20:27.960 --> 0:20:30.960 so much dure attention in this one. It's wild from 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:34.159 both of us. Both of us will go it's too much, 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.119 it hurts. He's an intimidating man, is Nick Saga, Not 0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:40.399 when he's acting, not in real life real life? Is 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:42.720 a big or softie. Yeah, but it's it's his eye 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:47.320 contact and his focus is amazing. That slap, that shoulder 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:53.919 slap is wild. I remember that. I remember this scene. 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:56.480 This is when they play pool. This is a good scene. 0:20:56.560 --> 0:21:01.040 This is Maleck's first date. Yeah, like seeing the Hunter's 0:21:01.080 --> 0:21:03.200 Moon enough, we haven't seen it kind of happening. We've 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.600 seen it during the day when it's quiet. Yeah, we've 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:07.280 really only seen it for the fight scene. I think, 0:21:07.640 --> 0:21:10.720 look at cute little Alec on his first date being 0:21:10.760 --> 0:21:14.600 a nervous fun fact about fake beer on set. There's 0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.920 a scene later on with Anna, like much much later 0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:20.239 on in the series with Anna where we couldn't really 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:22.119 get through it because Alberta was singing and he had 0:21:22.160 --> 0:21:24.040 his ear wig in and which is a little a 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.480 little speaker in his ear so when he's supposed to 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:28.600 stop when the music stops, and the music didn't stop, 0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:31.359 so he just kept singing. But everything else sort of 0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:33.280 the action has started moving, so we kept laughing and whatever, 0:21:33.280 --> 0:21:35.320 and we had to anyway, long story short, it was 0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:37.640 not Alberto's fault, but we had to keep drinking the beer. 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:39.399 So I kept drinking the beer and kept drinking the 0:21:39.400 --> 0:21:41.960 beer and it makes you really gassy. I didn't know 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.439 this at the time. I thought I had appendicitis. I 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:46.240 like I think I told Silk. I was like, dude, 0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.040 I gotta go to my trailer and sought out some 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:53.879 business and then graphic warning, I farted like nothing like 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:55.800 it like it was like nothing that's ever happened in 0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:59.080 my entire I levitated for about ten seconds. It was nuts. 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:02.480 It was really nuts. So that's what fake be it 0:22:02.480 --> 0:22:05.040 does to you, folks. Just so you know, if you 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:06.320 ever want to look at your actors and go, look, 0:22:06.320 --> 0:22:08.400 they're having a great time, they're drinking, chances are they've 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.480 probably got some tummy pain. So it's not as fun 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:14.320 as you think. Little insight into movie making for you 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:19.760 and BTS secret for all of you at home. I'm 0:22:19.800 --> 0:22:22.040 running out of BTS stories is the thing. And now 0:22:22.040 --> 0:22:23.840 I want to tell the gross ones like I'm running 0:22:23.840 --> 0:22:27.800 out of You may not have family friendly BTS stories, 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:29.880 and I'm gonna have to tell the poop ones. Now. Yeah, 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:32.439 well that's okay. I think they'll be appreciated either way. 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:35.439 But I do have to say, Matt and Harry and 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.160 you as well are all very good at pool, so 0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.040 this scene is quite well. So they always seem to 0:22:40.080 --> 0:22:43.760 put a pool playing scene into any show. We had 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.840 one recently a few a few weeks ago here and 0:22:48.119 --> 0:22:51.680 called a thing in eighteen seventy. Apparently they make those 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:55.919 pool balls so circular. I don't know about all that. Okay, 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.960 what do they make them out of? I would I 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:00.760 assume isn't that what they'm it out of? Oh yeah, 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:02.720 that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. They probably 0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.080 would make of polish woods. You're right, that makes sense. 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.800 Maybe I think that limestone now and I was like, 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:10.040 I don't think they have, or like, they wouldn't be Marvel. 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.439 That would be too expensive to look it up. I 0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:15.080 do know a little BTS thing. When they do a 0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.120 pool scene on set, they also have little foamy rubbery 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.280 balls that are quiet because so if you're doing dialogue 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:25.399 while you're shooting pool, it doesn't go over everything phonolic resin. 0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:28.560 So there you go. And originally they were made out 0:23:28.560 --> 0:23:31.080 of ivory, I think, and stopped doing that because it 0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.560 was to do with poaching. But yeah, somebody's rich in 0:23:33.600 --> 0:23:38.080 Texas in seventy if we have a yeah some ivory 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.480 in eighteen seventy, good lord, all right. Also, this Malik 0:23:41.520 --> 0:23:43.960 date is adorable and I love it's so cute. They 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:45.720 do such a good job with each other. They do. 0:23:46.000 --> 0:23:47.280 You can just watch it all day. I just want 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:52.000 a whole episode of that. Yeah, it spin off m ah. 0:23:52.000 --> 0:23:54.239 And then the awkward car ride when you barely know 0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.639 someone and yet you're trying to in a car that 0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:59.760 smells like gas. Although actually season two they kind of 0:23:59.760 --> 0:24:03.720 fixed that a little and it was less toxic um. 0:24:03.920 --> 0:24:06.320 Is that true. I again don't really ever spend it. 0:24:06.400 --> 0:24:08.320 I spent like one day in it in season three 0:24:08.400 --> 0:24:12.680 when we had like a Scooby Doo murder mystery mission. Yeah, 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:14.919 but I don't remember. I think it still smelled like gas. 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:16.840 I just think it had aired out a bit over 0:24:16.880 --> 0:24:20.440 three years, yeah, right, like they just left it, left 0:24:20.440 --> 0:24:23.040 it somewhere. But that's I mean, there's a leaking something 0:24:23.080 --> 0:24:26.960 in there for short and sleaking just like gas fumes 0:24:26.960 --> 0:24:29.680 into the body of this truck. God, I love that truck. 0:24:29.720 --> 0:24:32.360 I want he should have bought it. I know one 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:33.880 of these days we're going to be watching a movie 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:36.000 or a TV show and it's going to be there, 0:24:35.520 --> 0:24:38.840 and we're going to be on set again in Toronto. 0:24:38.960 --> 0:24:41.640 And because in the same wee all out our old 0:24:41.680 --> 0:24:44.240 car and Alberts got it. Imagine like I was thinking 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.560 about this earlier in the boat basin. I don't know 0:24:46.600 --> 0:24:48.520 if we spoke about do we speak about pocket cookies 0:24:48.560 --> 0:24:53.359 when we had him one cookies? So we Alberta and 0:24:53.400 --> 0:24:57.320 I especially we would at lunch we would steal as 0:24:57.359 --> 0:24:59.000 many cookies as we get our hands on, and then 0:24:59.040 --> 0:25:00.879 we would put them in the pocket of our costumes. 0:25:01.200 --> 0:25:03.600 So like you know, in between scenes, like you want 0:25:03.600 --> 0:25:05.639 a pocket cookie and you just open your jacket like 0:25:05.680 --> 0:25:09.440 it's some weird like shady like watch salesman down in alley, 0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:10.639 you'd be like, you want a pocket cookie, and you 0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:13.280 don't be jacket. There's like a different variety. The issue 0:25:13.280 --> 0:25:15.479 with that is we very often forget at the end 0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.080 of the day, take our costume off. Then I get 0:25:17.080 --> 0:25:20.760 my costume back and it's been washed or it's just 0:25:20.800 --> 0:25:22.960 been in the rain or like it's been out, it's 0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.119 been whatever, and there's like a melted, disgusting mush of 0:25:27.200 --> 0:25:29.280 like old cookie that's been there for weeks and weeks 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:32.639 and weeks, which is my fault. It's my doing. So 0:25:32.680 --> 0:25:36.359 again pro tip for you set guys, make sure you 0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:38.760 eat your pocket cookies. Make sure waste not want not. 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:40.640 Make sure you eat your pocket cookies, otherwise you're gonna 0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:45.080 end up with gross, soapy flavored dough. Did you ever 0:25:45.160 --> 0:25:49.760 eat old pocket cookie? When I ate an old one? Definitely, yeah, 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.240 where I would I either thought it was a fresh 0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:55.639 pocket cookie that I got from that lunch or curiosity 0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:56.679 got the better of me, and I was like, I 0:25:56.720 --> 0:25:58.680 gotta try, I gotta try. I gotta see if it's 0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:00.600 still good. I gotta see a Toronto me and cookies 0:26:00.640 --> 0:26:03.960 will stand the test of time. Um, No, they don't. 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.400 Good to know, we're to the wise on we get 0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:10.840 to hear a nice little backstory about how Claire and 0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:13.880 Simon met. How can you not fall in love with Simon? Honestly? 0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:19.919 I love the way she says Jess Whitland, and I 0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:28.119 was so rude, so rude many listen here, who goes 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.280 to ten the first time they meet someone and just 0:26:30.320 --> 0:26:32.480 beats the ship out of someone? You know what I mean? 0:26:32.640 --> 0:26:34.560 She threw a window. I didn't even know the girl. 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.720 I mean, she did think, you know, there was something 0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.000 going on, I think, but I didn't. She acted on 0:26:40.080 --> 0:26:42.760 thoughts but not facts. You know what I'm saying. You 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:44.320 know what I'm saying, not saying that I'm the bad 0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:46.440 guy in that situation, because she definitely lost her friend 0:26:46.440 --> 0:26:49.879 and I was definitely involved in some way. But if 0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:52.199 she'd have let me explain what she did, Nay, she did, 0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:54.320 Nay let me explain. And I got prone to a 0:26:54.320 --> 0:26:59.040 window very true, what a show. We're back at a date? 0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:01.720 Does he get drunk in this episode? I think this 0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.960 is one more strange drunk alic. That's right, because he 0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:09.240 doesn't he say, don't they do the numbers thing? Oh, 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.200 this is the numbers conversations. We're just about to get 0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.479 to it right now. Yeah, you guys are sharply dressed. 0:27:15.480 --> 0:27:18.639 These are They're very like brides maybe, but you would 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:22.560 look beautiful together at someone's wedding dressed in these. Oh 0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:25.040 you know what's funny, we actually took a picture in 0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:29.520 the castle. Um like the shining twins in these stresses 0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:32.480 just ruined that aesthetic for me. Now all I can 0:27:32.520 --> 0:27:34.359 see is the shining twins. Like what I saw is 0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.040 my two friends who look fantastic, and then you just 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:38.919 fucking ruined that for me. And now I see a 0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.439 horror movie. And you know what, I don't want my 0:27:41.440 --> 0:27:43.600 mind to be changed. You've just ruined it forever. That's 0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:44.879 what I'm going to see when I look at you 0:27:45.080 --> 0:27:48.000 and Emerald, whether you're together or individual, I'm just going 0:27:48.040 --> 0:27:51.680 to see horror movie from now on. Anyway, when he 0:27:51.720 --> 0:27:54.439 looked at me, no, no, I care about you. Guys 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:59.760 are used to ah, goodness again doing so well A 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:02.840 fact is just killing it in this episode with all 0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:06.000 this and how pale am I, Oh my gosh, I 0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.960 had not seen the sun in so A lot of 0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:12.639 studio work, a lot of studio work there, so we 0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:16.320 can see your abs through the dress there. Solid work. 0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.080 The hard work with new No is really paying on 0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.280 thanks to new No on that one, and a full, 0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:24.280 a full like Kira knightley atonement moment coming out of 0:28:24.320 --> 0:28:28.040 the solid work that one. You can see both of 0:28:28.080 --> 0:28:29.840 your hands on the floor of the pool though, which 0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:32.399 is funny. You can see both of your hands on 0:28:32.440 --> 0:28:37.439 the pool after the ship. Why did it go like 0:28:37.480 --> 0:28:41.360 all black and bubbly? Oh because she's on there, She's 0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.640 on the infant and that's right, so she had to 0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:47.959 almost chance. The Iron Sisters are doing zero to help zero. 0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:50.600 They are doing no help water. See there is like 0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:52.760 I'm not letting my friend drown. I don't care about 0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.720 your hands. Let's go being an awards. Being in water 0:28:57.080 --> 0:29:00.880 in scenes is fun for the first two takes, and 0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:04.120 then it's dreadful. I used to joke with the writers 0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.240 because every single season they would do something to me 0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.440 with water, whether it was this or the rain in 0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:13.320 season one, or the ice skating or the underwater and 0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:15.760 you know season two and three. It always made me laugh. 0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:17.320 I'm like, what what's your what's your throwing out at 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.960 this time? Let's go well, I mean we were in 0:29:19.960 --> 0:29:22.040 a we were submerged in a pool, like you were 0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:23.640 at the bottom with weights on your feet, and I 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.480 had to dive in and come and get you. That's 0:29:25.680 --> 0:29:28.080 that's like a semi scary experience as well. Then you're 0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:29.719 sort of getting to the point there and like we 0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:31.280 were well looked after and we had divers in this 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.240 and the other, but you are getting to that point 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:36.520 there of like what if something goes wrong here? If 0:29:36.520 --> 0:29:38.160 something goes wrong in a stunt, you're punched in the 0:29:38.200 --> 0:29:41.440 face and you know, something happens, it's a fairly minimal 0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.880 and very healable. But like we're literally underwater, something goes 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:49.640 wrong here, you're forty seconds, about eight seconds for me 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.240 because I was smoking at the time, so it's about 0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.520 eight seconds for me. And then I'm just unconscious. But 0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:58.080 I had the lung capacity of like a tree frog. 0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.200 I don't know. Just something smart. You did, all right? 0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:02.080 They did that breath test with us. I did do. 0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:04.160 I did do okay, thank you that sweet of you. Yeah, 0:30:04.200 --> 0:30:05.600 I felt like I did pretty good, but I was 0:30:05.680 --> 0:30:09.160 I was. It still wasn't great considering my lung capacity 0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.680 wasn't great. But they go, what did we miss? Oh? 0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:15.000 They accused Izzy of something and she's like, I don't 0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.960 know what you're talking about. Oh, they just they just 0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.000 healed me. Oh you didn't know that, you fin was 0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:23.520 made out of vampire venom And she said no, I 0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:28.800 didn't know that. Ah. Shoot, the betrayal goodness. Can't vampires 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.040 in the dark and where wolves see in the dark, 0:30:31.480 --> 0:30:34.520 you know, she would think maybe he still has some 0:30:34.720 --> 0:30:37.920 you know, carry over human habits. Old old habits die hard, 0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:42.680 you know for a while. That's true. Also, both the 0:30:42.720 --> 0:30:46.880 actor Alberto and Alicia are not were wolves nor vampires, 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:48.680 so they can't see in the dark. So this might 0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.920 just have been a little movie magic. I guess we 0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:53.320 didn't have the budget to fly in real wear wolves 0:30:53.360 --> 0:30:59.040 for this. What and then charity, I'll look at that. 0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.640 I can't tell little friendship, Yeah, communicating. Oh we get 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.920 a little Maya flashback too. Oh and young Luke as 0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:10.640 a patrolman in his uniform. Oh, I remember reading this 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:13.240 scene made me cry in the table rain. This is 0:31:13.240 --> 0:31:15.960 a cool episode. I love it. The flashbacks on our 0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.160 show that they're not like in season one they were 0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.040 a bit more stylized because it was Luke telling a story. 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.040 But with the way they tell the flashbacks now, it's 0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.920 it's slightly different, just enough, there's a bit of a hue, 0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.960 but it still feels like our show doesn't pull you out. Yeah, 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.480 I'm with you. I sometimes I feel like it's it's 0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:34.480 kind of cheating when you watch a flashback and it's 0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:36.479 like in black and white and we're like, we get it. 0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.520 I understand this is not current events, like I understand 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:41.960 what's going on, unless it's an integral part of the 0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.560 story that ends up sort of lining up with the 0:31:44.600 --> 0:31:47.600 black and white momentum. Is a good example of that. 0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.240 But like sometimes I feel like it's cheating, And sometimes 0:31:50.280 --> 0:31:52.240 I feel like, yeah, you've done this with the storytelling 0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.040 and the performers are doing it and we don't need 0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:57.000 it to be sort of spoon fed as much. I 0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:59.520 don't know, but she's doing Wow, she's doing a great 0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:03.160 job in this ale. Sure you break my heart heartbreaking. 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:05.880 They allay is such a good job with their physicality. 0:32:05.920 --> 0:32:08.280 All the folks who played werewolves on our show. Yeah, 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:12.200 you're right, it's just individual enough, but just just has 0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:14.880 a through line enough that they're all the same creature, 0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:19.080 but they're all individual personalities within that creature as well, 0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:21.040 and they do do a great job with this physicality. 0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:24.880 Congratulations guys, and shout out to Nancy for this wig 0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:28.320 on Alicia. Yeah, if you wouldn't have known. Yeah, there's 0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:31.240 no way. It's awesome. Oh we're back in the woods 0:32:31.320 --> 0:32:33.400 and back to the day. Oh, this is the Numbers conversation. 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.560 This is the Numbers conversation. Who says I'm worded out? 0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:40.440 He's like, he goes, I'm a virgin? That what? But 0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.680 he knew he was a virgin virgin shadow. I thought 0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.000 it was a joke. I always thought that was a 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.280 joke and it was meant to both get Alec there 0:32:49.520 --> 0:32:52.080 and piss jas off a little. I always thought that 0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.560 that line was was him kidding, but also maybe not. 0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.320 I don't know. It's the only real people to ask 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.480 about that. Matt and Harry's my to be the writers. 0:33:02.080 --> 0:33:06.280 I just all of the Mallet conversations are written so beautifully. 0:33:06.280 --> 0:33:08.920 It's it's such a healthy relationship and the way they 0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:12.760 just handle things and talk things out. It's so nice 0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:14.960 to see. Yeah, I think that's why so many people 0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:16.440 fell in love with them. And a lot of it too. 0:33:16.560 --> 0:33:18.040 I mean, the writers did a good job, but Matt 0:33:18.080 --> 0:33:20.480 and Harry had so much input on this and really 0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:26.120 finessing it. How many here we go? To be fair, 0:33:27.000 --> 0:33:30.040 that's a big number. I mean, he's been alive for 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:33.160 six hundred years though. All right, let's do the maths 0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:39.320 on this real quick. I'm just curious now. So six, Oh, yeah, 0:33:39.800 --> 0:33:43.680 that's fair. What's the number? I'm not going to say 0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.440 because I don't I don't think that If you feel 0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:48.240 like you want to do that math out there, then fine, 0:33:48.320 --> 0:33:51.680 But I don't think discussing people's sexual or romantic pass 0:33:51.840 --> 0:33:54.280 is necessarily appropriate, and it's not something I want to 0:33:54.360 --> 0:33:58.880 encourage necessarily that. But I was like, I saw a number, 0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:00.240 and I was like, I kind of get it. Either 0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.800 I did my maths wrong, or he's a handsome dude. 0:34:02.880 --> 0:34:06.040 That makes sense. Look suffice it to say, none of 0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:11.239 that matters because their love and that is you know, 0:34:11.280 --> 0:34:14.759 they're committed to each other and past doesn't matter at 0:34:14.760 --> 0:34:37.799 that point. What matters it's the relationship you're in, man. 0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.560 Speaking of relationships you're in, Jason is in a very 0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:44.719 committed relationship with these rags and the equal Although that 0:34:44.800 --> 0:34:47.919 leather apron looks really good on you, thanks, it works 0:34:47.960 --> 0:34:51.080 for you, honestly, sometimes because the costumes are in such 0:34:51.280 --> 0:34:54.120 there's there's such an aesthetic to what we were wearing, 0:34:54.239 --> 0:34:57.160 the very similar for a lot of it. Just sometimes 0:34:57.200 --> 0:34:59.960 wearing something completely different. Fun Like it's just a fun 0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:02.040 like I'm just wearing an apron and you're like, this 0:35:02.160 --> 0:35:03.879 is a cool, weird bit of costume that I get 0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.160 to like play around with and just you know, mess 0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:08.480 with and whatever. It's good fun and we get to 0:35:08.520 --> 0:35:10.480 have a little fight here. I don't know, I can't 0:35:10.520 --> 0:35:14.160 remember why he's playing this to me, just rubbing it in. Yeah, 0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:17.120 I think he likes this little power play. Just think 0:35:18.840 --> 0:35:22.120 really enjoys it. Yeah that's fair. I hate that. I 0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.080 don't know if it's age man, but I agree with 0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.759 him in this conversation. Not in a lot of what 0:35:26.800 --> 0:35:28.680 he does, but in this conversation I kind of get it, 0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:30.759 Like is he getting a kick out of it or 0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.200 is the real reality? Like his jobs to keep shadow 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:34.920 Onto safe and to do that, they need to know 0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:36.879 everything about their shadow. And you know what I mean, 0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.160 Like if you were a marine and someone lied on 0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:43.000 their form and like said they didn't have epilepsy or something, 0:35:43.040 --> 0:35:44.600 and you're out on patrol and one of you guys 0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:45.880 has a fit and you're like, all of a sudden, 0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:48.160 we're a guy down who has a machine gun in 0:35:48.200 --> 0:35:50.600 his hand or something like that, Like there's a danger. 0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:53.160 I think you need to be responsible enough to tell 0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:56.200 the people around even if we were on set as actors, 0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:58.040 if we were on set and we had like an 0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:00.680 issue that would potentially endanger other people or their jobs 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:04.920 or their livelihoods, or their physical safety or their mental safety. Yeah, 0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:06.920 I think it's your responsibility to tell them. Right, we 0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:09.399 talk about trust all the time. I think I sort 0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.960 of get what he's doing here. Oh I love this 0:36:12.000 --> 0:36:16.520 scene with Lisa Luke's family trying to care about it. Yeah. 0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.560 I love that. Clear he just keeps finding family throughout 0:36:19.600 --> 0:36:21.640 this It's it's a really nice thing. As someone who 0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:23.279 felt so alone in the world, you know what it 0:36:23.440 --> 0:36:25.920 is picking them up because none of these new people 0:36:26.120 --> 0:36:28.320 talk to any of the old people. Because what we 0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.640 say in reality is like don't trust me, save yourself, 0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.960 run away, whatever you can do. Don't join this fucking team. 0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:38.239 It's a nightmare. It's a nightmare. Like and anyone who 0:36:38.520 --> 0:36:40.560 you notice, the guys who have foresight, like the Silent 0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:42.520 Brothers and stuff, they will keep their distance. They're like, 0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:44.319 peace out, man, We're going to hang out in this 0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:49.279 like skull ridden horrible but equally gigantic and kind of 0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:52.360 gothically beautiful basement. That's where we're going to stay because 0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:55.160 we know what happens in the future and that we 0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.160 don't want any part of it exactly. Oh and then 0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:03.360 I forgot. We get this little um tutorial, the magic 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:07.080 mural with the mortal instruments, which we have not seen 0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.719 up until this point. No, we even't even really talks 0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:11.920 about the more instruments, Like I think this is sort 0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:13.960 of the first time with gearing up the end of 0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.839 this season for the first time in this but any 0:37:16.920 --> 0:37:19.120 think we've even really talked about what the more instruments are. 0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:21.879 Sward the mirror in the cup. Oh, now we're back 0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:24.919 with Luke. Come on, Luke, you got this. Hold it together, man, 0:37:25.080 --> 0:37:27.279 Keep it together. Makes you wonder how many times you 0:37:27.280 --> 0:37:29.120 know when you're camping and you hear something in the woods, 0:37:29.320 --> 0:37:34.360 you just kind of go wear a wolves where regular wolf. 0:37:34.360 --> 0:37:37.360 The wolves look so good. Oh my god, the teeth. 0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:39.239 I think that was one of the only times he 0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:42.080 got to use his teeth. Mhm. I think that might 0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.200 be the one shot because then they made Joel use 0:37:44.280 --> 0:37:50.080 them later. Yeah, poor Joe ah Man. This wolf Simon 0:37:50.160 --> 0:37:52.560 is always the one when somebody's having a problem to go, hey, 0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:54.560 I'm going to talk you down from this right now. 0:37:55.120 --> 0:37:57.799 He just ser that's what he's good at. Like he's 0:37:57.840 --> 0:38:00.360 got the speed and the blood law still all that 0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:04.600 ship now, but like his real superpower is his words. 0:38:04.600 --> 0:38:06.840 Like Jay doesn't really get to experience that until literally 0:38:06.840 --> 0:38:09.759 the last episode, but he does. It's like, hey, I'm 0:38:09.760 --> 0:38:13.040 going to tell you this beautiful memory and completely so 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.160 I he writes the graphic novel. Oh so this was 0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.520 something that I I didn't understand that they changed the 0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:22.279 mythology of how the sword works from the book. And 0:38:22.360 --> 0:38:25.359 in the book, the mythology is that it it is 0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.759 used as to to activate the Wish, but they made 0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.880 it in our show that it was a weapon that 0:38:32.000 --> 0:38:36.200 could kill all downwolders. Um it was I think originally 0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.200 supposed to be a weapon that could kill all demons, 0:38:38.680 --> 0:38:41.120 but they expanded it so that Valentine had a reason 0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:44.040 to use it to destroy the world. It's you know, 0:38:44.080 --> 0:38:46.480 it's a it's a ticking time mom. In other words, 0:38:47.040 --> 0:38:48.960 we change the mythology, and it's sort of difficult to 0:38:49.080 --> 0:38:52.400 reconcile with the book in a lot of ways. But yeah, 0:38:52.440 --> 0:38:54.239 it made it work in the end. I guess it 0:38:54.360 --> 0:38:56.360 made it work in the end. That's what matters. Speaking 0:38:56.360 --> 0:39:00.160 of Clary's just finding out about No, this is the 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:01.839 first time you use it. You this is the first 0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:04.439 time you show someone, right, Yeah, this is the first 0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:06.680 time I show her the run. But this is the 0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:08.640 first time I know what it can do, and or 0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:10.800 what the Mortal Sword can do. Oh, look, is he 0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:15.600 gonna is He's gonna use the listening room, the far 0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:19.480 away listening room, far away listening room. Yeah, this the 0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:23.239 spying room. We just got one for everything. Well if 0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:27.120 only we had one for logic, right, and maybe we 0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:30.040 would't end up in all these problems communication common sense, 0:39:30.640 --> 0:39:33.080 A common sense room. The amount of time they asked 0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.160 us what room we would like as our characters, and 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:37.640 we were like one for the wings or like whatever 0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:40.319 we should say common sense, that's true. They're I'm going 0:39:40.400 --> 0:39:46.160 to start saying that again, folks is killing it this up. 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:49.279 They've done a really really good job with this. Yeah, 0:39:49.280 --> 0:39:52.839 because it's amazing how much as actors, mostly because we 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.040 know we weren't there, you can then sort of see 0:39:55.040 --> 0:39:58.400 the little bits of disparity between like our bodies and 0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:00.719 then the background or whatever whatever the new thing is 0:40:00.760 --> 0:40:03.200 that's there. But I think what they do that so 0:40:03.239 --> 0:40:07.680 good is really minimize those opportunities where you can tell 0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:10.640 the difference because there are some like even just me 0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:12.520 watching the show, they've been not this episode because some 0:40:12.560 --> 0:40:16.080 barely Inette told you, I mentioned it again, Um, but 0:40:16.160 --> 0:40:19.279 they there are a few instances where I've watched the 0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:21.960 show and gone, I remember going to that place, like 0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:24.000 I don't. I genuinely don't remember being there, and it's 0:40:24.000 --> 0:40:26.680 because I wasn't working there. I wasn't there, and they 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:28.960 just did it down good job making it look like 0:40:28.960 --> 0:40:32.279 I was there, did a fantastic job. And then we 0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:34.760 have a lovely scene with you know, the kids bringing 0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:40.160 Luke back convincing him. So but surely we need to truly, 0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:44.560 you're the only sensible adult in this show. Yeah for real. Yeah, 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.240 but he does do a good job at losing it. Isaiah, 0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:49.120 he does. He doesn't I've ever seen of him later 0:40:49.160 --> 0:40:51.839 on in three Oh Man, like when he comes up 0:40:51.840 --> 0:40:54.759 when he like the hinges come loose, fun Like it's 0:40:54.800 --> 0:40:57.320 so good to watch. You get to learn a lot 0:40:57.560 --> 0:40:59.480 acting in some ways. It's kind of like sports, Like 0:40:59.560 --> 0:41:02.200 the best like the best scene partners are the people 0:41:02.239 --> 0:41:04.239 who are better than you, or you consider better than you, 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.600 or more experienced or more versed in a certain area 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:09.319 of whatever it is. Like it's like a tennis partner. 0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:10.879 You're not going to get better unless you face someone 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.359 who's better than you and sort of figure out like 0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:15.680 how to how to do that dance with them kind 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.799 of thing. And then like Isaiah that that scene in 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.520 particular where he starts to go off the rails and 0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:24.440 season three and would able to sort of sit back 0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:26.319 and go, wow, holy ship, like there's a bunch of 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:30.600 things that I'm stealing, just like my little bag of 0:41:30.640 --> 0:41:34.000 tricks I'm having that that's it wasn't And another good 0:41:34.040 --> 0:41:38.840 Malax scene, ms, stay no, you're not two different guys. 0:41:39.280 --> 0:41:40.680 We've got to get better at this. You and I 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.239 like when the good scenes come on, get so cut 0:41:43.480 --> 0:41:46.080 entirely forget that we're doing a podcast, like all the 0:41:46.120 --> 0:41:48.200 only thing that reminds me. I'm looking up at my 0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.640 my iPad and then I sort of see this, like 0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:52.720 and my instinct is to be like, oh wait because 0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:54.239 it's in the way, and I'm like, oh, that's why 0:41:54.280 --> 0:42:00.200 I'm at work. I'm doing a job right now. Ki 0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.320 they kiss. Yeah, I'm just sitting here cheering because Alec 0:42:03.440 --> 0:42:05.160 is about to leave. And then it comes back. It's like, no, 0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:08.439 I don't care. We're not too different. This is this 0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:11.919 is what's meant to be. They take effort and I'm 0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.839 willing to do it. That's all you want to hear 0:42:14.880 --> 0:42:19.319 from someone, you know. Oh, that's right, I remember the 0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:23.160 ending of this. I remember the ending of this scene. Ah, 0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.120 nothing like your brother coming a cock block you by 0:42:26.120 --> 0:42:29.759 turning up at your boyfriend's apartment. Jesus Jakes, what were 0:42:29.760 --> 0:42:33.120 you thinking, Well, you can't really go to the Jade Wolf. 0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.319 Can't go to the Jade Wolf obviously, can't stay at 0:42:36.320 --> 0:42:40.120 the institute anymore. Wow, those are really Jason's two options. 0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:44.480 That's really quite sad. Well, I mean, let's you want 0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:47.920 to go to Raphael's apartment, but I really don't think Yeah, 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:49.920 I don't think so. I don't think I would be 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:54.520 super welcome there either. Yeah, I the seely Glades. Probably not. 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.759 They're not a fan of us either. Definitely not me. 0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.000 I forgot about this for time. We see Clary get 0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:06.600 jealous because she and sees Simon and Maya. Yeah, you're right, 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:10.040 because we're still brother and sister at this point. Right. Wow, 0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.120 this guys on that goes on for longer than I thought. 0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:18.799 From the episode eleven of season one, I think it's 0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:23.520 all of season two. No, is that true until the 0:43:23.640 --> 0:43:30.200 very end? No, that's not true. That's not true because no, wait, huh, 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.360 it's a good better season two. It's a it's a 0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:35.759 decent way through season two ship. Yeah you're right, because 0:43:35.760 --> 0:43:40.160 the midway through a bit oh ship. Yeah, yeah, you're right. Wow, 0:43:40.440 --> 0:43:42.759 we really hung onto this storyline longer than we should. 0:43:42.800 --> 0:43:46.680 I just bat everywhere I mean to be. It's been 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:50.640 a good podcast for me that hopefully that video is 0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:52.280 not the one that we end up getting on Instagram. 0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:56.280 I started it by talking about the world's longest part 0:43:56.280 --> 0:43:58.560 that I've ever done, and I'm ending it by spitting 0:43:58.560 --> 0:44:02.080 all over myself. Good Lord put a mess to be 0:44:02.200 --> 0:44:05.400 fair in the books. It lasts for about five books. 0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:08.600 I remember you saying this, Yeah, that's that's it's that's 0:44:08.600 --> 0:44:11.120 a lot. It's a lot because they find out at 0:44:11.120 --> 0:44:12.960 the end of book one, and I think it's not 0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:17.400 till book five or six that they find out. Does 0:44:17.440 --> 0:44:20.560 the audience Do the readers know that they found out 0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:25.000 and they're like making out and stuff. Yeah, that's a 0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.480 that's a long time. That's a long time for this 0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:29.719 because I sort of figured like, at least if the 0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.120 reader knows, they're like, oh, it's okay, don't worry, You're 0:44:32.120 --> 0:44:35.040 allowed to be in love and just swim fighting these 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:40.319 instincts or whatever that they don't know either. Yeah, it's 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:45.000 not till because then then Clary has a whole, Like 0:44:45.040 --> 0:44:48.960 the whole Clary Sebastian thing is a lot more because 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:53.040 you know, there's it's still not Jason and Simon is 0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.440 off on his own. I think, so I'm in Isabella 0:44:55.520 --> 0:44:58.200 together in the books at that point, more close to it, 0:44:58.800 --> 0:45:01.239 and then she meets the Bastion and she's like, you 0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:03.280 sort of remind me of this guy that I loved, 0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:05.759 but he turned out to be my brother, so maybe 0:45:05.800 --> 0:45:08.160 I'll fall in love with you instead, and that just 0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:11.560 the way. Now, I was just watching the last thirty 0:45:11.560 --> 0:45:13.680 seconds of this, and I remember this scene happening either, 0:45:13.920 --> 0:45:15.920 and I'm not sure I saw what I saw. It 0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:17.839 kind of came out the corner of my eye. Does 0:45:17.880 --> 0:45:20.640 she get stabbed? Hold on? Sorry, I'm still in the 0:45:20.680 --> 0:45:25.279 scene with Isabelle and alder Tree where she's like, what 0:45:25.480 --> 0:45:29.239 the hell? Oh yeah, I almost died, almost drowned at 0:45:29.239 --> 0:45:31.520 the citadel because he didn't tell me. And then he 0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:37.000 pulls information out of her because he's again holding the drugs. Yeah, 0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:40.040 he's so good at the subtlety of this too. He 0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.279 just kind of holds it and looks at it. And yes, 0:45:42.320 --> 0:45:45.400 Cleophus does get stabbed because no, no, no, it's the 0:45:45.440 --> 0:45:50.280 other one. It's not Cleophus. No, yeah, it's it's um Magdali. 0:45:51.239 --> 0:45:54.520 That's wait, does she stabbed her own? I heard, sister? Yeah, 0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:58.080 why does this happen? I think it's because somebody's threatening Clary. 0:45:58.280 --> 0:46:02.680 Oh no, because she's a circle member, oh ship, Yeah, 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:06.279 because that one times back. I remember that. Yeah, I 0:46:06.440 --> 0:46:11.160 remember that happening at all. Mom, looks, sister, that's what 0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:16.680 I said, sister, Yeah, I just have an accent. O. Wow. 0:46:17.160 --> 0:46:20.440 Well on that note, wow wow, we did a real 0:46:20.480 --> 0:46:23.200 good job there. I'm proud of us, super proud of us. 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.640 Lights from this episode. What was your favorite part? Ah, 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.680 just my stellar performance in all the scenes that I 0:46:31.719 --> 0:46:38.440 was in. I think that they really utilized my I 0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:40.680 think that's what it was. No, I like, I like 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.359 the flashback. I think Alicia did a really amazing job 0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.799 in that, and so did Isaiah. That little bond and 0:46:47.040 --> 0:46:49.359 watching what someone goes through the night they find out 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.520 was really quite harrowing. So that was probably my favorite party. 0:46:52.800 --> 0:46:55.920 That's great. I don't know, I gotta shout out folks, VFX, 0:46:56.040 --> 0:47:00.160 I gotta shout out all of the Malik date us 0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.279 makes my heart so great. It was really weird and 0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:08.879 hopefully we'll see a lot more of that the future. Yeah, 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:12.120 fingers crossed. We don't know. It honestly turns out that, 0:47:12.160 --> 0:47:14.640 like there's whole chunks of this show that I don't remember, 0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:17.359 actual bits of it that I don't remember filming. Its 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.120 no memory whatsoever. And maybe it's because we didn't have 0:47:22.160 --> 0:47:24.600 a fight scene, like because I can connect them to 0:47:24.719 --> 0:47:27.239 like the stunt or the fight or like whatever it was. No, 0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:30.640 that can't be true, because the story points that I remember, 0:47:30.680 --> 0:47:32.120 I think it's just because I had sort of a 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:35.279 fairly flustered story in this one. I think also we 0:47:35.280 --> 0:47:37.480 were so busy and the pace got so quick at 0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:39.320 a certain point, we were just in a in a 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.520 routine and a machie happens to me on every series 0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.439 they do. I'll be watching it back and going, oh, 0:47:44.480 --> 0:47:47.800 I totally forgot this scene because you do you block it? 0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:49.799 We didn't block sho on Shadow and did we know? 0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.239 We just didn't know it was episode by episode. Did 0:47:52.239 --> 0:47:55.400 you do you block shoot on Walker independence We did 0:47:55.520 --> 0:47:59.399 on our first well, our episode two, three and four 0:47:59.440 --> 0:48:01.840 because we were two and three had the same director, 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:03.880 and then episode four we were kind of waiting for 0:48:03.920 --> 0:48:06.200 our sound stages to be ready because they were still 0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:08.640 building our sets, so we had to kind of crossboards 0:48:08.640 --> 0:48:11.319 and things. And so for anyone who doesn't know, block 0:48:11.360 --> 0:48:14.040 shooting is when you take a chunk of whatever it is, 0:48:14.040 --> 0:48:17.080 So it's anything two episodes and above. So some block 0:48:17.120 --> 0:48:19.680 shooting is episode one and two, three and four, or 0:48:19.680 --> 0:48:21.480 five and six, so on, so forth. Some of them 0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:23.640 is the first half of the season, the second half 0:48:23.640 --> 0:48:25.719 of the season, sometimes three episodes, you know whatever, And 0:48:25.760 --> 0:48:27.839 it's a convenient way of scheduling things because you can 0:48:27.880 --> 0:48:29.480 put all the bits in the same location in the 0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.640 same place. However, for an actor sometimes that can be 0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:35.399 especially when it's on a series where you do each 0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:37.200 episode is sort of a little chunk of the story, 0:48:37.200 --> 0:48:39.840 little chapter of the story that can get a little confusing, 0:48:39.840 --> 0:48:42.239 where you're chopping backwards and forwards between these big plot 0:48:42.239 --> 0:48:44.360 points that happened at the end of episodes, and that 0:48:44.360 --> 0:48:46.400 can get a little trickier. So it's it's sort of 0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:49.560 similar to how you would shoot a movie in its entirety, um, 0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:52.560 except you don't know how and the series is not 0:48:52.560 --> 0:48:54.799 written yet. It was a lot more hours of a 0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.520 story that you have to remember at that point, but 0:48:57.840 --> 0:49:01.160 they can give hours of story. Next uppisode is actually 0:49:01.600 --> 0:49:05.399 I think one of our first, um big fight scenes 0:49:05.440 --> 0:49:09.280 together that you and I did all of Really, yeah, 0:49:09.320 --> 0:49:12.000 I think what episode is it? When I went to seven, 0:49:12.680 --> 0:49:15.080 which I think had something to do with a roof 0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:20.600 and some shale. What our camera operators would always outcry 0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:23.000 when ever there was a hard day on set is 0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:29.279 that very iconic moan we should have had Glenn do 0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:32.160 it when he was on the podcast. That's true, we 0:49:32.160 --> 0:49:35.040 should have it's also yeah, it's the date with Sarah 0:49:35.080 --> 0:49:40.719 as well. Oh yeah, the Jace Simon Double Day Shots episode, 0:49:40.760 --> 0:49:47.319 wasn't it. I just finished working with Jeff shots on Walker. Yeah. Yeah, 0:49:47.440 --> 0:49:50.040 he came and did um did one of our episodes 0:49:50.080 --> 0:49:55.640 just a few ago, and he was so good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, 0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:58.560 on that note, looking forward to the next episode, We've 0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:00.200 got lots to talk about. Thank you all for the sening. 0:50:00.239 --> 0:50:03.480 As always, take her We'll be back next week, Kyle, 0:50:03.600 --> 0:50:11.000 thanks for listening. Return to the Shadows as hosted and 0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.440 executive produced by me Dominic. Sherwood and Katherine McNamara are 0:50:14.520 --> 0:50:18.400 executive producers Langley. Our senior producers are Liz Hayes and 0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:21.920 Diego Tapia. Our producer is Hannah Harris and Kristin Vermeilia, 0:50:22.120 --> 0:50:25.800 and our intern is Sam Katz. Original music by Alex Kinzy, 0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:29.120 performed by Alex Kinzy and Katherine McNamara, and the episode 0:50:29.200 --> 0:50:30.640 was mixed by Seth Lanski.