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Speaker 1: Hey, Marlins fans, Welcome to a new edition of Big

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Speaker 1: Fish Small Pod for Thursday May second, twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 1: here on the Fish on First podcast channel, presented by

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Speaker 1: MPT College Consulting. I am Eli Sussman presenting for you

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Speaker 1: postgame audio recorded by our very own usual Small Pod

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Speaker 1: host Daniel Rodriguez. This is from wednesdays Marlin's win over

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Speaker 1: the Rockies. So you're going to hear first from manager

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Speaker 1: Skip Schumacher.

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Speaker 2: Scip finally got a series from two in a row.

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Speaker 2: Do you feel maybe collective sigh of relief from the

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Speaker 2: guys in there now they can maybe focus and stuff,

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Speaker 2: stoping pressure on themselves.

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Speaker 3: Maybe.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I honestly hope they don't feel that way,

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Speaker 4: just because I just feel like every day was a

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Speaker 4: new day. I get I get the record, I totally understand.

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Speaker 4: But if you look too far ahead, then you're not

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Speaker 4: folks us on today, And if you look too far behind,

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Speaker 4: then you're not focused on today.

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Speaker 3: I know it's cliche, but I really truly believe that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think the players feel that as well

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Speaker 4: from our staff. So I just I'm proud of, you know,

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Speaker 4: how they go about their business, even in the midst

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Speaker 4: of that streak that we were on some really good

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Speaker 4: wins last couple and it started with the starting pitching.

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Speaker 3: And Roddery was amazing today.

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Speaker 4: Six innings, seventy percent strikeout strike rate, the slider was real,

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Speaker 4: fastball command was great.

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Speaker 3: So just excellent job by rodri As.

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Speaker 5: Good as his stuff is.

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Speaker 2: How big does his composure playing to his early success?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was good. I thought.

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Speaker 4: I thought CB did really good with him behind the

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Speaker 4: plate as well. You know, there's some shaking going on,

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Speaker 4: you know, a couple of innings and there's some conversation

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Speaker 4: that dug out about you know, why you're shaking me

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Speaker 4: type deal. But I thought, you know, meld had a

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Speaker 4: really good game plan with with Roddery and CB. And yeah,

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Speaker 4: the demeanor was great out there, excited. You saw some

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Speaker 4: fit pumps maybe after every clean inning, but that's you know,

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Speaker 4: that's a rookie being excited out there, and we're excited

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Speaker 4: for him. And he's again three hit with three hits,

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Speaker 4: seven strikeouts.

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Speaker 3: I mean, as good as you could ask for.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of rookie, s Moltonado gets his first career save

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Speaker 2: or screw. When at what point did you decide to

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Speaker 2: go to him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Tanner's not gonna be happy with me. He wasn't

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Speaker 4: happy with me in the dugout, and I get it. Uh,

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Speaker 4: that was three.

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Speaker 3: Games in a row.

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Speaker 4: He was going to be, in my mind available for

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Speaker 4: one inning. To me when McMahon was at the plate,

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Speaker 4: that was the game. So I was not gonna wait

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Speaker 4: and not use Tanner in the ninth inning and give

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Speaker 4: my horse in the bullpen and not not use him.

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Speaker 4: So I had to make a call, and I had

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Speaker 4: a longer bottom of the inning. I just didn't feel

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Speaker 4: right sending him back out. I know he wanted to save.

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Speaker 4: I'm a I'm really aware that he wanted to save

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Speaker 4: after talking with him, and I know it's not because

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Speaker 4: I didn't think he could do it. I care about

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Speaker 4: I don't want to look back on this game may

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Speaker 4: first of like, why did I try to stretch him out?

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Speaker 3: Uh three?

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Speaker 4: I know it was three in a row, but there

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Speaker 4: was a couple uh really quick outings in between, you know,

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Speaker 3: Dan Myers obviously helped that he should yell at.

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Speaker 4: Danane, not me forgetting the RBIs and uh but yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's that was kind of the reason behind it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, how do people those conversations as a manager can

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I like you, you want a guy

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Speaker 3: I want him to be out there too.

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Speaker 4: I also understand that the five more months at the season,

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Speaker 3: Maybe the last couple of pitches, and he.

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Speaker 4: we got a couple more runs. It started becoming a

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Speaker 4: don't put him back in there, So, yeah, he's not happy.

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Speaker 4: I'll let him vent to you guys, and then he'll

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Speaker 4: be fine with me tomorrow. But he's a horse. He's

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Speaker 4: huge and strong, and if there's one guy that could

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Speaker 3: I just I didn't feel comfortable with it.

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Speaker 6: Over the weekend.

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Speaker 7: Peter said they would be opportunities for guys like six

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Speaker 7: Joe RODERI, I mean even all the night in this case,

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Speaker 7: say what have they shown you over the course of

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think first of all, I think the PD's

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Speaker 4: JP and Brownie down there have been really good with them.

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Speaker 4: Scottie and the communication with j P, Brownie and and

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Speaker 4: an idea of what's going on down there. We watch

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Speaker 4: all the video down there, so we have an idea

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Speaker 4: of what these guys who they are. First of all,

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Speaker 3: Stuff gonna play up here? And then you watch it.

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Speaker 4: I think, you know Rottery and maldon Auto, I mean

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Speaker 3: The ball, and guys can't pick it up.

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Speaker 4: And then when you mix that in with ninety seven,

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's tough to figure out at the play,

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Speaker 4: especially if it's seen it. And then you know all

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Speaker 4: these slider is real. I mean, you know it's coming still,

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Speaker 4: it's like the Robert Stevenson kind of like you know

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Speaker 3: So it's it's been awesome to watch.

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Speaker 4: And then obviously six to Do is still is growing

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Speaker 4: next couple starts. Not really fair for me to judge

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Speaker 4: stuff is real, and it's credit to the PD guys.

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Speaker 3: And then obviously our big league staff up here.

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Speaker 7: You mentioned that Sixto Roader, you're doing well, idealing O

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Speaker 7: Braxton is getting healthy, easier in return, hopeful Lozardo. So

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it all works out.

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Speaker 4: I mean we are trying to figure that out in

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Speaker 4: spring training, right, and then five guys go down or

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Speaker 4: whatever it was, and it was like, who are we

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Speaker 4: going to have? So it's a luxury if you have

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Speaker 4: all these guys help. You want all of them healthy.

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Speaker 4: You want to have tough decisions and then you figure

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Speaker 4: it out. But yeah, Bras went five innings today, one hit.

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Speaker 4: I think already got the report, so obviously he's looking good.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, Zoos looked great today. That's what you want.

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Speaker 4: You have depth, your depths being tested, and then it

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Speaker 4: gives guys opportunities, so you never know what's going to happen,

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Speaker 4: and for not only this year, but for their career.

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Speaker 3: So it's so far, so good with those guys.

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Speaker 2: Do you think for Munio is the difference from his

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Speaker 2: first right to a second store was maybe incorporating this

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Speaker 4: He threw it quite a bit in Chicago, probably more tonight,

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Speaker 4: but he threw it quite a bit, and talking with

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Speaker 3: I don't. I haven't talked.

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Speaker 4: Obviously with you know, any of the other side today,

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Speaker 4: in between innings and it's just like strike to ball

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Speaker 4: real late or yeah, strike to ball real late, and

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Speaker 4: so when you're striking it and then strike to ball

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Speaker 4: when you if you can expand it, that's when you

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Speaker 4: see the week contact and strike out. So yeah, it's

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Speaker 4: a good cutter slider, whatever you want to call it

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Speaker 3: You know both shapes are real.

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Speaker 8: You used Anthony Monaldo in different ways so far in

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Speaker 8: and this time as a closer. Is that the way

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Speaker 8: you want to use them in different ways or are

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Speaker 3: Far, I'm trying to win the game. That's literally it.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to win the game. I didn't plan on

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Speaker 4: using Tanner in the eighth inning. You have a plan

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Speaker 4: when you go in the game, and then you watch

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Speaker 4: it Rotgery went six.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know that was going to happen.

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Speaker 4: Things change, Hoeing ends up getting a couple, had a

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Speaker 4: quick first inning, roll them out in the second inning.

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Speaker 4: I see that lefty Lane come in. I'm trusting Tanner

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Speaker 4: and so after that, then you're like I can't. I

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Speaker 4: lead with you know, and I haven't used Tanner if

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Speaker 4: if I wouldn't feel good about that. So I felt like,

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Speaker 4: and we talked about it with Scott that you know,

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Speaker 4: the the best matchup in that lane for us was

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Speaker 4: was Maldy and he proved us right.

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Speaker 3: So it's credit to him.

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Speaker 4: He's the one that got the guys out. You know,

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Speaker 4: it's just put him in the lineup.

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Speaker 1: Here is the winning pitcher, right hander Roderie Munyos.

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Speaker 2: How do you keep that composure in just your second

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Speaker 5: Uh? Time is the come?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's just a matter of staying stay focused on

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Speaker 9: the whole game, work on every pitch that you have

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Speaker 9: and try to repeat it every time to study, study

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Speaker 9: all the hitters as much as you can, and then

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Speaker 9: just give all you got out there.

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Speaker 2: How much confidence do you have and the way that

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Speaker 2: your stuff plays at this level?

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Speaker 9: Albert come come.

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Speaker 10: Anyway you foco can see would pay me your yay,

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Speaker 10: it's it's really good.

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Speaker 9: I have to put this focus u during my book

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Speaker 9: sessions and then from there I have a plan and

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Speaker 9: then I'll go and execute it. During the game.

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Speaker 2: We saw you shaking off in court a little bit earlier.

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Speaker 2: How did you guys get on the same page.

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Speaker 9: Uh see, it's just a strategy to confuse some some hitters.

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Speaker 9: You don't have to say yes all the time. Sometimes

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Speaker 2: How excited are you to just be back here with

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Speaker 5: Told him to get it. Are you going to keep us? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: It feels good. Uh, it's great to be back with

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Speaker 7: Different types of fastballs and and the slider kind of

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Speaker 5: Local, yes, Solomon.

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Speaker 7: From I guess six does out on yesterday that you

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Speaker 5: But yo yo, y okay.

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Speaker 2: Base four times for two runs.

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Speaker 9: What's been working for you?

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Speaker 5: Look and plung.

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Speaker 9: Nothing, just going out there with the plan. Every time

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Speaker 5: That's that's the plan.

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Speaker 10: And see little part in the defensive Well, defend.

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Speaker 10: So that's about That's what I see that back then,

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Speaker 9: It's a it's very important for the game. It helps

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Speaker 2: Very proud of after finally winning a series, finally winning

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Speaker 5: And FILA.

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Speaker 9: Don't know. The so the movie is, we have a

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Speaker 1: And taking us home. Rookie outfielder Dane Myers.

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Speaker 11: Back to bad games coming off the bench, big hits

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels good. Being up in the big leagues.

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Speaker 5: So I appreciate.

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Speaker 7: That that's a routine like for you when you've got

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Speaker 6: Yeah, once it gets into like the fourth or fifth

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Speaker 3: You enjoy being up for situations?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I enjoy it. It's kind of been my type

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Speaker 7: To right field. Is that kind of or maybe even

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Speaker 9: Maybe?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. That's when I think I'm not

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Speaker 3: A lot of emotion from there.

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Speaker 4: You know, obviously had the walk off yesterday, but today

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Speaker 6: You know, how good did that feel? You know for

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Speaker 5: In holding to get that save.

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Speaker 4: You know, you've been with him for a long time

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not surprising at all. I've watched Molly pitch

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Speaker 6: You guys are seeing that a lot of swing and miss.

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Speaker 6: And he's a good guy too, a good teammate, and

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Speaker 3: Same, what does it mean?

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Speaker 4: You know, back to back wins for this team first

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it feels good. I think the team need a

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Speaker 11: And for you, what's been the biggest difference. What's the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I'm I'm getting comfortable up here. I

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