1 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're brown a mission. 2 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: Hey Manny, Hey, how is your three day weekend? 3 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 1: EXCELLENTE? I spent it in the I don't know, does 4 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Colorados have rocky mountains? 5 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 2: I think that's the Rockies, correct. 6 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: I spent them in the rocky mountains of Denver, Colorado. Outside. Nonetheless, 7 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: that sounds beautiful. What were you doing there? So there's 8 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: an organization called Girl Trek g A I R G 9 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: I R L trek t R e. 10 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: K What are you spelling? Okay, go ahead. 11 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: It was awesome. It was co founded by a women 12 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: named Morgan and Vanessa, and they just had this concern 13 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: for black women and their health. And so they said, 14 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, if we could just get out and walk, 15 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: like in half an hour a day, it would just 16 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: make a tremendous difference in the health of black women, 17 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: because you know, black women have, like, as far as 18 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: women are concerned, like have the highest incidents of like 19 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: diabetes and like you know, blood high, blood sugar and hypertension, 20 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: all these things they tell you. And so they just 21 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: were like, what if we could create some sort of 22 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: movement to really get black women to move. Then what 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: they realized which I thought was really awesome because Girl 24 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: Trek is six hundred thousand women strong. I think at 25 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: the actual conference, I guess you can't even call it that, 26 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: but for lack of a better word, of conference with 27 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: which they call the Stress Protests, there was about six 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: hundred or so more women. But it was awesome, Like 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: we like Girl Trek. They have these like blue T shirts, 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: and so as soon as I got off the plane, 31 00:01:57,520 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: like and we got to like wherever' supposed to meet, 32 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: you just see blue a sea of blue T shirts. 33 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: And it was just awesome to see all of these 34 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: women all around the country come together and like, like 35 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: do all these outdoor kind of activities. You know, it's 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: so crazy. So I brought my like, last minute, I 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: found my fitt, which I have not been wearing, and 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: I brought it with me. Mandra, I walked over twenty 39 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: five miles in those few days. Damn. You like it 40 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 1: when I tell you, and like and so I went 41 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 1: on a hike, which is really great. I did like 42 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: the intermediate like beginner hike, which was really great. I 43 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: also they had like trap yoga amazing. They had double 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: Dutch overall bigs amazing. 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 2: This sounds like my dream workout class trap yoga. 46 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: It was so because it was like you know, it 47 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: was traditional yoga poses, but like Salams was playing and 48 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: like you know, like it was just like Drake. It 49 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: was just he played like really dope music while working 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: you through like you know, like the sun side and taste. 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: So that was awesome. They also had like this Vogue class, 52 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: like a self love Vogue class. They had something called 53 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: a soundback, which was like you kind of like lay 54 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: on the ground and then like they played like these 55 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: vibrational sounds to kind of like increase your your your 56 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: your your vibrations And honestly, it was really dope. What 57 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: else did that? Oh? I did acupuncture, massage. There was 58 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: so many things, And so it's really. 59 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 2: Like a conference where you like do you stay in 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 2: that same hotel? Is there like a registration fee or something? 61 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's I believe it was like maybe like 62 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: five or six hundred dollars. But what it's so great 63 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: about it includes your your your room, all the food 64 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: and transportation. You have to pay for your flight because 65 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: you know they can't know where you're coming from. But 66 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: so they did it at the why when they said 67 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: it was at the YMCA. I was like what, because 68 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: you know the YMCA where I live, it's like a 69 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: little small little building. But no, this YMCA is a 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: property with like acres and acres and acres of land, 71 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: and so they've got like little cabins we stayed in. 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: Like it was like I don't want to It wasn't 73 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: really a hotel. It it was like I guess it 74 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: was like hotel slash cabin. I guess you can kind 75 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: of call it. It was like two people per room, 76 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: but it was really cute and like like outdoors, like 77 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: everything was like wood trim and stuff like that. And 78 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: then they also have like a main hall, dining hall 79 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: where everyone could eat. So we weren't the only groups there. 80 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: They were like I guess people have Like there were 81 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: like church groups and like families were there and so 82 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: that's when we all ate. But we took over specific 83 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: like lodges where we stayed. But it was just such 84 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: an amazing experience. They even had a napping class. 85 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 2: Okay, napping did you get a little blue and red 86 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: matt and everything. 87 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I missed it. That was so mad. 88 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: Some people were like it was amazing that you literally 89 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: went in and they like did soothing talking and sound 90 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: just to relax and busa. They were just what I loved. 91 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,159 Speaker 1: It was like a mix of because I taught a 92 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,280 Speaker 1: class called financial Wholeness, so it was a mix of 93 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: like you know, like classes, but then also like physical 94 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: activities that were classes, so it was it was just 95 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: and then I know, I don't know how long they 96 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: must have planned for this, because everything was branded in 97 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: this beautiful way. It just was so well done. I've 98 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: been to a lot of conferences and this was like 99 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: the anti conference, because you know, you go to a conference, 100 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: you sit in the room, the person sits at the front, 101 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: and it's like la la la, I know the things 102 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: you want to know me. And then you go to 103 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: the next room, same thing, the experts on the stage, 104 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: La la la, I know the things you want to 105 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: know me. But that wasn't this at all. This was like, hey, 106 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 1: instead of sitting in the classroom, and some things were 107 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: in the classroom, but it was like, hey, I went 108 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: on the hike before I went for this class, and 109 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: the next class for taking a nap, and the next 110 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: class like they literally had arts and crafts. It felt 111 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: like summer camp where you're like, oh, I can paint outside. 112 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: There were like dance sessions where you're like, oh, they 113 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 1: just played music and everyone was just dancing. When I 114 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: tell you the level of joy. I didn't realize how 115 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 1: anxious I was here in New Jersey until I came back, 116 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: because what I like too is that they didn't really 117 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: have any internet or phone acts, like very little, so 118 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: I was cut off from a lot of like quote unquote, 119 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 1: like the work stuff that I have to do. Plus 120 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: it was a holiday weekend, so it wasn't like anybody 121 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: was doing work anyway. But and then I got back 122 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: to Jersey and I felt like this flood of not 123 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 1: full fledged anxiety, but like anxiety. I was like, wow, 124 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: the difference, and it made me realize, like okay, because 125 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 1: I would never have like classified myself as someone who's anxious. 126 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: But coming back, I kind of felt the world's rushing 127 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: and I was like whoa, whoa, whoa. So one of 128 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: the things I like I was determined to do was 129 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 1: I actually went for a walk because one of the 130 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,039 Speaker 1: classes I took was about how to distress and how 131 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: to get clear and focus and still because I'm like, 132 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm always on ten and so I 133 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: took that class and something she said it seemed like 134 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: so small, but it really resonated. She had us like 135 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: kind of like do this like writing activity where we 136 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: wrote down the last time we felt joy and like, oh, 137 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: the some times that we just feel joy in general. 138 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: And so I did that, and it was like, oh, 139 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: when my niece and my nephew came over, or you know, 140 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 1: talking to my sister on the phone, or laughing with Jarell, 141 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: or taking a walk because I actually like walking. And 142 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: I realized a lot of the things I had on there, 143 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,799 Speaker 1: like I don't do them that often. And we talked 144 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: about like, as a group, why are so many things 145 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: that we say we experience joy, but they are things 146 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: that we're not duplicating in our life over and over. 147 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: Like if hanging out with my niece and my nephew 148 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: gives me joy, I mean, my sister would love for 149 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: me to babysit twenty four hours a day, like go 150 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: see that, especially after work. I know she's exhausted, Like 151 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: they literally live probably not even a ten minute walk 152 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: from my house, a two minute drive. I could be like, Okay, 153 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: I know she gets home at seven. I'm gonna beat 154 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: her at the house. I'm gonna watch the kids relax, 155 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: and then I get joy as she gets rest, you know. 156 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 1: And so I just thought about that that like that 157 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: was like the probably the biggest takeaway from that class, 158 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: which is just to multiply the joy. You write down 159 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: the things that give you joy the last time you 160 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: felt it and ask yourself, how could I do that 161 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: again and again and again? Like I actually enjoy walking, 162 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: but I rarely walk, and I don't know why because 163 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: I work for myself at home. So this morning I 164 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: woke up and I was like, I had a I 165 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: had a PR call myself, Drina and my CEO Karen. 166 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: We have a PR call every other Tuesday. So I 167 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: had a PR call every other Tuesday. And so I 168 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: was walking and talking. I'm like, Timothy, take the PR 169 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: call on a walk, And because Adrina came with me, 170 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: so did Karen, my COO, and so did Tamika, who 171 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: I have several chapter DreamCatcher chapters. So if y'all just 172 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: knew listening like Dreamcatchers were about eight hundred thousand women 173 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: deep were like the beehive, like Beyonce's behive, but for 174 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: personal finance. And so I wanted them all to come 175 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: so we could see how can we enhance our group 176 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: and community experience. So I could see like what it 177 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: looked like when it was done at the level of excellence, 178 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: and girl Check is awesome and it went so well. 179 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: I met with them, one of the founders, Morgan, and 180 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: we're actually going to do things together because we have 181 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: a lot of overlaps. It's a lot of my audience 182 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: is also African American women, most of my audience, and 183 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: since they catered to African American women, and so we're 184 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: gonna start with something called the Wealth Walk, which I'm 185 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: so excited about, which is just girl trekkers walk every 186 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: week together anyway, but like one of those walks, we 187 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,199 Speaker 1: will focus on talking about money. So I'm going to 188 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: create like a series of questions and a series of 189 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: like maybe definitions to talk about, and like a little 190 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: video that they can watch as they're walking, like right 191 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: before they walk, so they can discuss the discuss that 192 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: that Wealth Walks lesson. So it just made me really 193 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: excited about, you know, just some things that we could 194 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: do together. But then I can also bring back to 195 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: dream Catchers so they can do as well. So honestly, 196 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: I had a bomb dot Com weekend, despite the fact 197 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: that we were like in like, you know, I don't 198 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: consider myself an outdoorsy person, but we were that guy. 199 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: Like I said, twenty five plus miles is when I 200 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: walked just from like going to get something to eat, 201 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: going to go paint, going to jump, you know, going 202 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: to going to on our hike or whatever. It was 203 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: just like I said, it was just an amazing experience 204 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: and beautiful too. 205 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 2: That sounds really nice. Yeah, well, yeah, I did that 206 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 2: for Mental Health Month. I try. I took conference calls 207 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 2: on walks and but then it got to be like 208 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: one hundred degrees and one hundred percent humidity, and then 209 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 2: I stopped. But I'm getting back on now that the 210 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 2: weather is nice out. I've been getting out a lot 211 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 2: a lot more. But that makes me actually want I've 212 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: never looked into like doing a wellness retreat or a conference, 213 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: just like for myself, because you always think of conferences 214 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: as being like something you do for work or for 215 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: your business. But especially if you take it's such a 216 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: sounds such a good way to spend time with your 217 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 2: girlfriends and catch up. 218 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, because I like Drina and I because you 219 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: have to you share rooms, so because you know, I 220 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: obviously was going with someone. So it was just so 221 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: nice we got to like because I feel like like 222 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: for me, you know, like I've known Drina, who's my poplicist. 223 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: So if you know jenas use my publicist. She like 224 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: has some really like high level clients and so sometimes 225 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, but she's also my best friend. And I've 226 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: known Drina so she was nine and so sometimes like 227 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: we say that all the time that sometimes we're like, 228 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: you know, we talk, but I talked to Dream every day, 229 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 1: typically multiple times a day, but almost always is about 230 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: oh did you do the thing in CNBC wants to know? 231 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: And can you do the real and so you know, 232 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: and sometimes it's like we don't like when it's the 233 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: last time we just said hey, yeah, you know, just 234 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: like girlfriend out without it leading to also talking about business. 235 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: And so it was nice because we didn't talk about 236 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: business because it really you know, like we couldn't really 237 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: use our phones. We couldn't really like it was just like, oh, 238 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 1: isn't that plotter so pretty well? Take our picture by 239 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: this mountain or like you know, like we're just nice 240 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: just to be friends. So that part was really nice. 241 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: So I highly highly highly recommend. If you go to 242 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 1: girltrek dot com, you could join the movement. You can 243 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: like look for the next the next you can find 244 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: a walk local to you which is dope, and you know, 245 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: signing up for a girl for stress protests next year. Honestly, 246 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: it's such an even if you don't go with someone, 247 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: the women are so friendly. Girl, it was just a 248 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: bunch of hey, baby, good baby, Okay are you good. 249 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just black women are just amazing 250 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: and it was just like a love fest of just 251 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: a amazing positive just yeah, it just was just I never, 252 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: I've never I'd never done anything like that before. It 253 00:12:09,160 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: just was like a LoveFest of like of women like me. 254 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: And so I highly recommend it if you guys are 255 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: looking for some way to get out there and something 256 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: that Morgan said that thought was really interesting and then 257 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: we can you know, chat about something else is But 258 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: she said that what they started girl Trek to talk 259 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: about health, but what they found found what it really 260 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: was a cure for loneliness that sometimes as an adult, 261 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: you know it's hard to make new friends, or maybe 262 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: you've moved to a new area, or just maybe you've 263 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,800 Speaker 1: just like you know, you're and your friends just don't 264 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: connected like you used to. And she found that women 265 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: were coming out and just really getting to know other women. 266 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: And then let's just say you've been on a walk 267 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: three or four times and you don't make the fifth 268 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: of sixth to seventh one, like your your your your 269 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: local walk, you know, liaison whatever, they check in on you, 270 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: like maybe where you been girl? You okay, like you 271 00:12:58,640 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 1: haven't been for a walk. No, I don't feel like, 272 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: well we're gonna come get you. No, no, but now 273 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: now we'll be we're here outside, come outside, like and 274 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: I just love that. She was just like that they 275 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: found that because health is not just about I want 276 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: to get snatched or whatever, like health is mental and 277 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: emotional help. And she said that it was just like 278 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: that's an awesome side effect to like walking with others, 279 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:22,679 Speaker 1: that it wasn't just that you were getting healthy physically, 280 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: but like it was really mentally and emotionally helping to support. 281 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: And some walks actually walk and pick up trash. Some 282 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 1: some walk and take pictures, so they're like people are 283 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: using their walks for like like you know, like multitasking 284 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: on their walk and just making the most I just 285 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: thought that that was just really amazing adope or sometimes 286 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: they'll walk and do volunteer work, and so I just honestly, 287 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: I just can't say enough about girl Track and what 288 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 1: an awesome dope organization. And like I said, if you 289 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: want to learn more, it's girl trek dot com and 290 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 1: they're amazing. 291 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we've gotten questions from Remember there was 292 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: a listener who had a question about being lonely, like 293 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: how do you make friends and your late thirties or forties. 294 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: It's something that people don't talk enough about. And having 295 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 2: just moved away from the city to I live like 296 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 2: thirty minutes away from Manhattan now, where a lot of 297 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 2: my friends live, and you know, a lot also our 298 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: friend now I'm in my thirties, our friends are also 299 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 2: moving on to suburbs or different places. And I've definitely 300 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: had weekends where I'm just like, do I have friends? 301 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 2: Where are my people? I'm so lonely. I have nothing 302 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: to do, nowhere to go, no one to see, and 303 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 2: it can be really isolating. And I'm actually I am worried. 304 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: I'm trying not to focus on the negative so much, 305 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: but I am worried because I'm doing the wintertime, there's already, 306 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 2: you know, just to do stuff in my area. I 307 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: got to get in a car and go somewhere, and 308 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: I'm worried, like, what's going to happen when I had 309 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: this baby in the middle of winter and It's going 310 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: to be dark at four pm and I'm going to 311 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: be alone and I'm going to be going nuts and 312 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 2: I'm trying. And I actually posted on this mom's group. 313 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 2: There's all these moms of whatever town facebook groups like 314 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure you have a bunch wherever you guys lived, 315 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 2: and recommended I just like, join this moms of my 316 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 2: town's Facebook group. And I got in and I woke 317 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: up as I do, at like two am in the morning, 318 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 2: you know, because I had to pee, of course, and 319 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: then I'm scrolling and I was like, let me post 320 00:15:12,520 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: something because I was just feeling I was like, I 321 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 2: need to ask this of people in my area. So 322 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: I asked in the group, I just have to comment saying, 323 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: you know, for moms who've had babies in this area 324 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: in the wintertime, what did you do so you didn't 325 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: feel so isolated? Am I even? 326 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: Like? 327 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 2: Am I crazy for even thinking that I'll want to 328 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 2: be able to leave the house with a newborn, and 329 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 2: I forgot about it because it was two am and 330 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: I was delirious. And then a few days later I 331 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: signed in to Facebook and I had like a flood 332 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: of responses from women who who had like winter babies, 333 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 2: and they were like, yes, you have to get out 334 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: of the house, you have to talk. There's like walking 335 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: groups at the mall, and there's ei, there's newborn yoga, 336 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: and made me feel not. 337 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: Not alone, because you're not, honestly, And that's why I 338 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: just think, to me, whether it's girl check or whatever, like, 339 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't obviously have to be this, but it's just 340 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: I think just in general, it's just import and that 341 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: that you you know, that people connect with other people. 342 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: There was like this study where they found like this 343 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: small little this small little town in Italy where it 344 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: was either they had no incidents of cancer. I don't 345 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: think it was cancer. I think it was no heart 346 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: attacks or strokes, and they were trying to figure out 347 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: how or why was it diet, was it excesense? Was 348 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: it this was that it wasn't that at all that 349 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: this small little town that people visit each other every 350 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: single day, like they checked it on everyone and they 351 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: found that when you are in community with others, like 352 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: the health benefits cannot be I mean, there's just just 353 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: the health benefits are just extreme. Like even if you 354 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: know you have this big Italian diet of like sauces 355 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: and riches and butter and all that kind of stuff, 356 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, like despite all of that, that those things 357 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: can be offset with just being in community with others. 358 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: So I just think that that's such an important thing. 359 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: And I'm just glad that you got you know, your response, 360 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: and just for anyone listening, because it is if you 361 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: move someone new somewhere new just know like either you 362 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 1: know whether it's girl track or you just hit Facebook 363 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: up and just type in maybe something that you enjoy, 364 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: like moms that travel or traveling, like Newark has a 365 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 1: Newark Mom's group. I know that, or like I know, 366 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: I'm part of No Madness, which is like a brown 367 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: black well it's not just girls, but like a brown 368 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: black traveling group where like you know someone I remember 369 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: when I was first starting to travel. I I joined 370 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: it cause I was traveling alone mostly and I would 371 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: they call it throwing up the back signal. I would 372 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,719 Speaker 1: throw up the back signal and no madness. And I remember, 373 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,880 Speaker 1: like I went to San Francisco for the first time 374 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: and I went by myself and like three women were like, oh, 375 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: I live here, and they took me around. Was a 376 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: jazz singer. It was like, here's tickets to my jazz 377 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: show tonight. So I went and one woman was like, 378 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: this is my favorite restaurant. She took me. It was 379 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 1: just awesome. And so I just encourage people that you're 380 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: you know that if you feel alone to reach out 381 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: and social media, there's a social component to media, to 382 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: social media that you can really lean into. And I'm 383 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: just glad that you did. That's awesome. 384 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, well my weekend. You know, I won't bore you guys, 385 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: but I don't want to like and I certainly don't 386 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: want to overshadow what you did. But I did watch 387 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 2: all eight episodes of that new Styling in Hollywood show 388 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 2: on Netflix with the guys who style like Taraji p 389 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: Henson and like a lot of black actors in Holiday 390 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 2: is so good. I was gonna say, isn't it It's 391 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 2: so good? Yeah, it's great. Well, one, it's like a 392 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: black gay couple, black male gay couple, and their business 393 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: is part styling Hollywood, part interior designing for Hollywood, and 394 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 2: so they're like designing homes for like Gabrielle Union and 395 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: Doula Hill and obviously, yeah, obviously like styling people like 396 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 2: Taraji p Henson and Ava Duverne. It's it's good quality 397 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 2: half hour television if you guys are looking for something 398 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: to fill your mornings with. So that's that's what I did. 399 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 2: And you know, I hope that inspired you guys to 400 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 2: stay connected with people, and you know, just like Tiffany's weekended, 401 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: I felt very connected to my couch. 402 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: No, honestly, I saw I forget. I think I saw 403 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: like something on Instagram about it, and I was like, 404 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: wait a minute, this looks so good. I cannot wait. Oh, 405 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm glass it was good. 406 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,959 Speaker 2: Highly recommend, highly recommend. Well, I'm so glad you had 407 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 2: a good time. Girl check. I'm gonna check it out too. 408 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: Okay, So now it's time for questions. 409 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: I know we always have really great questions. I'm always 410 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: excited when it times question because you guys make me 411 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: stretch and. 412 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 2: Think like, yeah, so let me go to the reader 413 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 2: mail bags again. You guys can hit us up at 414 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: Brandambission Podcasts at gmail dot com with your questions. We're 415 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: also on Instagram at brand Ambisson Podcast, or you can 416 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 2: go directly to our website Brandnambisson podcast dot com and 417 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: click ask us anything to shoot us a question. 418 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: All right, so we have a question, and guess what, guys, 419 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read it because I can read. So Hey, ladies, firstly, 420 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: I just love you. And she's thirty years old, she's 421 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: a CPA. She's living in Europe with her boyfriend. She says, you, ladies, 422 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: continue to feed my passion for personal finance. Woop woop. 423 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 1: My dilemma is dirt as great as I am at 424 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,199 Speaker 1: reading and listening in about personal finance, I still have 425 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 1: about twelve thousand dollars of credit card debt that I'm 426 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: working to pay off. So she just got a bonus 427 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: at work for nine thousand dollars. Great, and she'd like 428 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: to use it all toward her debt. However, that's not 429 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: enough to cover the full balance. She participates in her 430 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: company stock plan where they get shares at a discounted rate, 431 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: and she has some long term shares that she liked 432 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: to trade in for cash and use toward the rest 433 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: of the debt balance. That's three thousand dollars because obviously 434 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 1: nine thousand dollars bonus three thousand dollars from cashing in 435 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: her stock, she'd liked to know if this is the 436 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: best brute to go. She knows that she will owe 437 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: taxes on the stock sale, but the capital tax will 438 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: be lower since she held the stock for more than 439 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: a year, and taxes will be lower than the nineteen 440 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: percent APR being charged on her credit cards, so her 441 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: capital gain SAX, meaning whatever you sell stock, you have 442 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: to pay taxes on the earnings, basically the gains. And 443 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: right now, her interest rate on her credit card is 444 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: nineteen percent, which is kind of high, and she doesn't 445 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: have much savings right now, so she's hesitant to throw 446 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: all the money at her debt. But if she can 447 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: eliminate the credit card debt payments, she can save more 448 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,160 Speaker 1: freely and is appreciated. Thank you. 449 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 2: Did I say her name, Jessica? 450 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: Yeah? I was sure, Yeah, but I was sure if 451 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 1: she wanted to be the same. But I feel like 452 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: that's not a This is not like a you know, 453 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't know, like some crazy question. Thank you, Jessica. Okay, Jessica, 454 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: what's your European boyfriend while living in Europe with her boyfriend. 455 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: So do you want to start Mandra? 456 00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 2: So the key question here is she's got twelve thousand 457 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,119 Speaker 2: dollars of credit card debt. She has nine thousand dollars 458 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,320 Speaker 2: coming from a bonus, but it's not even going to 459 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 2: be enough to cover the full balance. So she wants 460 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: to sell three thousand dollars worth of stock to pay 461 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: off her credit card. Is that a good idea? 462 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: Yes? 463 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 2: I mean I can't fault her. 464 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: I knew it because you know me. I know you 465 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: many like I can't. 466 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: Fault her logic. I can't fault her lodge. I'm very 467 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: debt averse. Yes, I'm sure that three thousand dollars. You know, 468 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: there's a chance it could make more than nineteen percent 469 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 2: in the market, but over the next thirty years probably 470 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: not on average, like probably looking more like seven and 471 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 2: eight percent. And honestly, if it's keeping you up at night, 472 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 2: I have done this before. I have had RSUs vest 473 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: at a company, and I've used a chunk of it 474 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: to pay off credit card debt. Just to one fell swoop. 475 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 2: Just get rid of it and feel better. And if 476 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 2: that makes you feel better, I say, go for it, 477 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: and it doesn't sound like you're completely trading in all 478 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: the equity that you have access to at your job, 479 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 2: so why not and plus those you know, I think 480 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: when employer gives you shares or RSUs or whatever stock 481 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 2: buying options, like if they give you that you know 482 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 2: you can, that's another type of bonus and being one 483 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: hundred percent. Like for some people who have jobs where 484 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,920 Speaker 2: they get equity or they get bonus or they get 485 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 2: some kind of equity grant from their employer, if that's 486 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: their only money, you know, being invested, it's a little 487 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: to me, it's a little dangerous because you're sort of 488 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,639 Speaker 2: like tying up all your earning, all your wealth in 489 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 2: one company. Like not only did they give you your paycheck, 490 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 2: but you're also also your investments are tied up with 491 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: them too. So if you're lucky enough to be granted 492 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: stock and it you know, invests or you have access 493 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: to it, I generally think go ahead and either diversify, 494 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: you know, sell it, get rid of it, you know, 495 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 2: use it to pay off debt if you have it, 496 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 2: or you know, diversify it into other investments so you're 497 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 2: not you know, tied up with just that one company. 498 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: But that's just me. 499 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,480 Speaker 1: That's what I feel like. My concern is not so 500 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: much like you know, like catching your stock or whatever. 501 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: My concern is that the nine plus the three you 502 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: basically like you're letting. I mean, I'm if I'm not 503 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: reading like it correctly, but I'm pretty much this means 504 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: you have no savings, right that that would be My 505 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: biggest concern is that you because I always say this 506 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: that no savings and no debt is debt. I'll say 507 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: it again, no savings and no debt is debt because 508 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: if you have no savings whatsoever, you know you you've 509 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: ditched it all. You put it all towards debt. You're like, ooh, 510 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm debt free. Then the car breaks down. How are 511 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 1: you finn to fix the car? You're gonna flip your 512 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: guard because you're gonna get right back in debt because 513 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: as an adult, unexpected expenses happen. So that's my biggest 514 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,239 Speaker 1: concern with this is that I think that you know, 515 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: using definitely some of this money toward the debt, and 516 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: even if you want to use the majority of it, 517 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: but I just encourage you to like leave yourself a 518 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: little bit of savings for cushion because as an adult, 519 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: things happen, and I would hate for you to pay 520 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: off this debt only to have to swipe the card 521 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: again because something happened unexpectedly. So that's probably just like 522 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: my little two cents is that, you know, leaving yourself 523 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,880 Speaker 1: with absolutely no savings. It's just something because I'm debt 524 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: at versus as well. But you know, I'm also someone 525 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 1: who is like yany so something happens, at least want 526 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: a few thousand dollars in the bank to be able 527 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: to manage some like, you know, some minor to slightly 528 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: major emergency. 529 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 2: No, I think you're absolutely right. That's a great point 530 00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: to make. 531 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for bringing me back because I get it, because 532 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Mandy and I are so. I mean, 533 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: I'm someone who brought my house in cash, okay, in 534 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: cash why And I'm not gonna lie when I look 535 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: back on it, it probably wasn't the best financial like financially 536 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: financial well, I vacillate back and forth whether it was 537 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: like the best use of our money. I mean, it 538 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: wasn't all of our money, but still, but it's because 539 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, I too am dead at verse 540 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: and so sometimes I try to take a step back 541 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: and say, Tiffany, it's just the wisest choice. I mean, 542 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we did because I'm mentally and emotionally 543 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: having my first house lost to foreclosure was traumatizing. So 544 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 1: I was like, what you're not gonna do is take 545 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 1: this house. So I understood why I made that choice, 546 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: and I'm not you know, I'm glad that we did 547 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: because also it was a foreclosure and we got a 548 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: half off, so either way it was still a good investment. 549 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: But still sometimes I navigate too heavily on the debt 550 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: averse side, and I'm like, it's it's not it's not helpful. 551 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 1: It's like the law of diminishings. So sometimes you know, 552 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: you do something over and over and over and again, 553 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: which is something good, like pay off that pay off 554 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 1: that payoff debt, but at some point you reach a 555 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 1: block where anymore paying off of this debt in this 556 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: way actually actually brings back diminishing returns, meaning actually is detrimental. 557 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 1: It's like drinking water is great until you drink too 558 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 1: much water, and then actually you are drowning your body 559 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: from the inside. So, like any good thing can be 560 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: turned into a bad thing if if you overdo it, 561 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 1: It's what I'm saying. So I just don't want that 562 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: for you because I know it's something that I struggle with. 563 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: I still struggle with because, like I really look at 564 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, did we really have to pay for like 565 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: the six figure renovation of the house in cash? Because 566 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, Dad gone to Tiffany. You could have put 567 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: it and grown it, and then you know, I just 568 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: I'm trying to like I'm trying to be a reformed 569 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: anti detaholic, And like I said, I know that is 570 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,200 Speaker 1: not a good thing, but sometimes you can put money 571 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: toward things that can and grow, then you can actually 572 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: be more effective in attackling that debt and still have 573 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: money left over. And so I'm just giving you the 574 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: advice that I wish somebody you know would give me 575 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: some time. So just go, huh so. 576 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 2: With that nine k, like how much you know, maybe 577 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: save like put a thousand, you know in your emergency 578 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: fund or something like that. That seems like a decent 579 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 2: cushion to start with. And then if you were to 580 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 2: pay the whole credit card off that full twelve k, 581 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 2: then it just you just have to like change your 582 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: habits to get to a place where you're not you're 583 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: not going to be going back into debt, and that 584 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: you'll be able and that you have some like, you know, 585 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 2: start actively paying down whatever is left because you didn't 586 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 2: cash out your entire bonus to pay it off, like 587 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: actively pay off and make that you're a new priority 588 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: so that you're not in the same you know, situation later. 589 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, because I mean, yeah, because that too, 590 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: because it's like that twelve thousand dollars that didn't come 591 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: from nowhere, and so that's just a concern that like, okay, 592 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: you might slip back into it, and now you don't 593 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: don't have any fallback of like to grab money from 594 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: someplace because you've used your whole bonus toward this. But 595 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: I mean, all in all, you seem like you're in 596 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: a good position. Just don't overextend yourself with getting rid 597 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: of all of your savings. 598 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 2: And thanks for your question, Jessica. Yeah, can we do 599 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,959 Speaker 2: one more. We have a little bit of time, we 600 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: shull care. Okay, Then this one comes from the gram 601 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 2: where did it go? I just think this one's kind 602 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: of funny. So this is from all Hail Queen Bee 603 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 2: on Instagram. She says, I have a question on behalf 604 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 2: of a friend. This friend has a remote job that 605 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: pays a little over eighty thousand dollars, and she decided 606 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: to pack her bags and leave California to go where 607 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 2: her money goes further. She decided to buy a home 608 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: in Atlanta, but she's a little afraid with the recession looming, 609 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: and she's wondering, is now the right time to buy 610 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 2: a home? What of atl Everyone's going to atl right now? 611 00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: Yes they are. They happened for them for the last 612 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: few years. So yeah, it's the Black Mecca. 613 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 2: I know I left too soon, so good. Interesting question, 614 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: I mean one, I think if you have no kids, 615 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 2: no family, no ties, like I don't know, especially because 616 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 2: you can work like anywhere now and like everyone should 617 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: just move to a place with a low cost of 618 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 2: living because then you're instantly creating where wealth for yourself. 619 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 2: So I think that's really smart. Does she need to 620 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: buy a home right off the bat? I don't know 621 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: about all that? 622 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: Is she where's she moving from? Does she say? Again? 623 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: From California to Atlanta, Georgia. 624 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, child, that's gonna be much lower. 625 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: So eighty k and there's fun. There's like cost of 626 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 2: living calculators. I think, I think I forget where I 627 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 2: saw one. I'll try and put a link in, but 628 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: you put in your you put in where you live now, 629 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 2: your income now, and then you can put in where 630 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: you're moving to, and it'll just show you how much 631 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: more your money is worth. I did that once to 632 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: compare what I'm earning here and how much it'd be 633 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: worth in Georgia, and I was like, I need to leave. 634 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 2: But then you know, marriage and children and stuff and dog. Yeah, 635 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: but the question, like, you know, is it a good 636 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 2: time to buy a home with the recession looming? I mean, 637 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,959 Speaker 2: that's really difficult to say. And this recession is, like 638 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: we said in the last week's episode, it's shaping up 639 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,680 Speaker 2: to be very different than the housing crisis. 640 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, this is not a housing crisis. Recession. 641 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 2: Yes, and Atlanta was hard hit. 642 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 3: You know. 643 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: I had had family in the real estate business whose 644 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 2: businesses almost tanked, you know, did go bankrupt because of 645 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 2: the crisis there. Because I lived in one of those 646 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 2: neighborhoods that was next door to the big development projects 647 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: with all those like half million dollar houses that just 648 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 2: stayed empty in two thousand and six and seven. The 649 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: problem back then was that people were getting approved for 650 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: houses they couldn't afford on paper with their income. As 651 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 2: long as you are getting a house that you can't afford, 652 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 2: and you know, if things were to go belly up, 653 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 2: like you can afford your mortgage payments, you have savings. 654 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 2: It's not like it's a super terribly you know, risky 655 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: financial choice and you're in danger of ending up like 656 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 2: these people were back in you know, the early two thousands, and. 657 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: I just looked on lending Tree, you know, the property 658 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: you work for in say Heay, and the interest rates 659 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: actually really good right now, they're. 660 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 2: So good they're better than when I got my house 661 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 2: a year ago. 662 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Because a thirty year fah loan is three point two percent, 663 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: that's what the interest rate is. And a thirty year 664 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: fixed rate loan so FAHA is typically if you're like 665 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: the first time you know home buyer, that you can 666 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: qualify for that. There's some other things you have to do, 667 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 1: but a thirty year fixed rate is three point six 668 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: y nine, I mean that's three point anything for a 669 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: mortgage is actually excellent. So it actually might be because 670 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: right now What that means is money is cheap right now, 671 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: so you can I mean I don't know if like 672 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, housing prices for drop I mean many and 673 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: obviously we can't know that, but I do know that 674 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: interest rates just a year ago were like five percent 675 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: I think when we were when when Jerrell and I 676 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: were looking, so we thought we were gonna get a mortgage. 677 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: And this is a year ago before this house came 678 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: on the market and the bank was like, no, we're 679 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,080 Speaker 1: only going to sell for cash, but we were looking 680 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: at like five percent. This was like a year ago, 681 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: and so the interest rates are really good right now. 682 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: So it's not a bad time as far as interest 683 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: rates are concerned to borrow money for a home. But 684 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: like I would look to see where where you are 685 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: buying the as housing has it gone up pretty steadily? 686 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: Is it like an up and coming neighborhood. That's also 687 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: a good thing, you know, just look at housing prices 688 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: in the area, do your comps, make sure you just 689 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: do your research so you know that. So it's either 690 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: like two coins, Like my parents live in the house 691 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: and live in a neighborhood in Westfield, New Jersey where 692 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: it's pretty like a really nice neighborhood and even during 693 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 1: the recession, they you know, they may have taken a dip, 694 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: but they're right back at the top of the market 695 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: as far as like homes are concerned. Because Westfield has 696 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: a great school system. It's very a really beautiful, solid 697 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: town with direct trains and transportation to New York. Now 698 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: where I live now in Newark is very much like 699 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: pre Brooklyn, you know, nineteen ninety eight or whatever, where 700 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: like Newark, it's a great time to buy because it's 701 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: just starting to take off. Well, I mean, if you 702 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: could even find anything quite honestly now because no one. 703 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: Newark is situated by New York, which has Brooklyn. Harlem 704 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: is also situated by Jersey City. These are cities that 705 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 1: it's the cost of living is so expensive that people 706 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: are now looking to Newark, which normally was not considered 707 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: a desirable town because they had some riots in the 708 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: sixties and it really like tore New York down. But 709 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: now because the surrounding area is so expensive, Newark has 710 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: an airport, Newark has transportation so now, and Newark has 711 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: like some of the lowest taxes in the state of 712 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: New Jersey. Well in this area that the northeast part 713 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: of New Jersey where I live, And so as a result, 714 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: you find houses that you know, like you know, our house, 715 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: even at full price at like three eighty or whatever, 716 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: it's still cheap compared to two towns over. And so 717 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 1: I would also look to see, like, am I buying 718 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: in a really solid neighborhood where like, okay, these home 719 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: prices are pretty rock solid they don't really dip in train, 720 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,280 Speaker 1: Or am I buying an upcoming neighborhood where the surrounding 721 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: neighborhoods are really expensive and so people are starting to 722 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: spill over here and I can still get a good deal. 723 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: So just remember that buying a house is an investment, 724 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: and so think about it that way, Like, am I 725 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: purchasing a home that years from now, it's going to 726 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: be the value is going to hold steady and grow 727 00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: a little bit or grow dramatically because I've brought in 728 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: a neighborhood where I like the houses is undervalued momentarily. 729 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, those are all really good questions, and there's so 730 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 2: many resources online that you can use, from zillo to 731 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 2: truly to look at the history of home values in 732 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,919 Speaker 2: your exact zip code, because really, like, yes, on the 733 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 2: macro level, like recession looming, sure, but is one looming 734 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 2: in the town that you're buying in Atlanta? Like it's 735 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 2: almost like you need to look at the microeconomy and 736 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 2: what's happening and where you live and not the whole 737 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 2: country does not respond to recessions in the same way. 738 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: It really depends on the location. So I agree, look 739 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 2: at your specific location, talk to other homeowners in the area, 740 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 2: and ultimately make the best decision for you financially, and 741 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,800 Speaker 2: definitely don't try and get more than you can afford. 742 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 2: And you know, tell your friend that quote unquote friend 743 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: who's his friend? I don't know, all right, I'll just 744 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 2: say if I could buy something in Atlanta, as my 745 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,920 Speaker 2: next goal is to buy an investment property back in Georgia, 746 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 2: So hopefully that's not a bad decision. But we'll see, 747 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 2: all right, guys, thank you very much for your questions. Again. 748 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 2: We are Brandabission Podcast at gmail dot com. If you 749 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,160 Speaker 2: want to hit us up on email. You can also 750 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 2: go to Instagram. We're at Brandonbision Podcast on the Gram. 751 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: Yes, now it's time for Boost to break for all 752 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: our family. Will you boost? Will you break? What will 753 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: it be? Many. 754 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a quick boost. I downloaded this book 755 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 2: on my vacation because I went to I went on 756 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 2: vacation with the novel and it was too short, and 757 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 2: you know, you finished a book too early, and I'm like, damn, 758 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 2: I have a whole other week lift. So I got this. 759 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 2: I have downloaded this audio book a while back. I 760 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,760 Speaker 2: don't even know why. I must have had some audible 761 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,640 Speaker 2: credits I needed to use before they expired. But it's 762 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 2: been really, really good and if you are leading a team, 763 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 2: especially if you're a new leader, or even if you're 764 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 2: a veteran leader, I've really enjoyed this book. So it's 765 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 2: by Brene Brown. Who do you know Brene? Yes, I know, 766 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 2: I'm like the last person to know about her. I 767 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: just again, I randomly download this book, but I googled 768 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: her and I'm like, oh, she had the viral ted 769 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 2: talk about leadership and vulnerability, and so her book and 770 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: she has a couple of a few different books at 771 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 2: this point, but this one's specifically for managers, and it's 772 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:46,280 Speaker 2: called Dare to Lead, Brave Work, Tough Conversations, Whole Hearts. 773 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 2: And I'm about halfway through it now and I've been 774 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: taking notes like a good student, and it's been really helpful. 775 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: Like one, it's been one of it's sort of an 776 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 2: affirmation for some of the styles that I have personally 777 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: adapted from my own management style, but it's also like 778 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 2: giving me a different way to think about how I 779 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: speak to people on my team. And and she does 780 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 2: talk about being vulnerability as a leader and how it's 781 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: okay to show some of that to your people, especially 782 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: because I'm about to give birth, and that's I can't 783 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 2: think of anything more vulnerable than becoming a new mom 784 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,480 Speaker 2: and also leading a team. And it's helping me be like, understand, Okay, 785 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: it is okay to I'm not trying to hide the 786 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,320 Speaker 2: fact that I'm having a baby. I can still be 787 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,759 Speaker 2: a boss and a mom and I can still open 788 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 2: up about, you know why, I'm going to be out 789 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 2: for a few days or a few hours to go 790 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,880 Speaker 2: to doctor's appointments and I shouldn't be ashamed of that. 791 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 2: And so it's been it's good. I reckon I highly 792 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 2: how they recommend it. It's been really great so far. 793 00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: So it's dare to lead, brave work, tough conversations, whole 794 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 2: hearts and the audiobook is good, it's not boring. I 795 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: like that she reads it herself and she's got a 796 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: really good like presence to her voice. It's very like conversation. 797 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I love Rene Brown honestly, Like I watched that 798 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: viral ted talk and it was like, waits. 799 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm behind. It's so behind the world. 800 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 2: I'm caught up now. 801 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she's awesome. And since then she's just exploded 802 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: all over everywhere. She's just really dope. So yes, and 803 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,879 Speaker 1: maybe I'll pick up that book. I'm not. That's one 804 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 1: of my things, my joy things, remember I said earlier, 805 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: like make a list of things that bring you joy. 806 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: Like I used to be such a big reader. And 807 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:18,919 Speaker 1: now I mean not that I don't read now, but 808 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: everything is like reading to learn more about you know, 809 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:25,880 Speaker 1: these dogs, to learn more about you know, like marketing, 810 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: but like reading just for the joy of reading, like 811 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: I have not done that, and so like I used 812 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,280 Speaker 1: to like plow through books. 813 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 2: You know, Oh I got a dad one. What do 814 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,760 Speaker 2: you have a fun summer read? No, summer's not over yet. 815 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 2: Really good books. So it's a quickly little I think 816 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,479 Speaker 2: I read this novel in like three days on the train. 817 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,840 Speaker 2: But it's called My Sister the serial Killer, and it's 818 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 2: it takes place in Nigeria, so hey, and it's about 819 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 2: two sisters and one of them's a serial killer. It's 820 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 2: really good. Yeah, it's good. It's like funny. It's a funny. 821 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 2: I don't know, a dark comedy. I can't wait for them. 822 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 2: Sure it's going to be a TV show or like 823 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: a movie or something. It's really good. 824 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,760 Speaker 1: But okay, My Sister the serial Killer. Okay. 825 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,280 Speaker 2: If you guys want a little quick, easy summer read recommended. 826 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 1: Yes, oh and please you can. They're definitely like at 827 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: Me the Bunjanista, if you've got some really great reads, 828 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: I like, I'm like, I don't have like a specific 829 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 1: John and like, oh I'm a I'm such and such 830 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,320 Speaker 1: like I I love like like I love Malcolm Gladwell 831 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: with all his books on research. I like, like one 832 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: of my favorite books. 833 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 2: Is he buying his books and not reading them. I 834 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 2: gotta read what I'm supposed to want to. I'm supposed 835 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 2: to read them, right, I have audio books, I got 836 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: the paperbag. I need to read his books. 837 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: That's really good. I don't know how he makes research 838 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 1: like it feels like a novel, you're like, tell me more. Malcolm. 839 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,360 Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite authors honestly, so his books 840 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: are great. I love like, of course thee Alchemist by 841 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,320 Speaker 1: Powell Couelo, So I love There's this book called Jonathan 842 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 1: Livingston Seago, which is like one of my favorite books. 843 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: It's very like alchemist esque if you like The Alchemist. 844 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: But I also love like trashy like romance novels, you know, 845 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: So I'm all over the is my reading. So if 846 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: you have a book that you just think is amazing, 847 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: at me the budgetista on Twitter or even Instagram. And 848 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 1: because I you know, like I said, I don't have 849 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: a specific genre that I'm like, oh like I yeah, 850 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: I just love to read, although I have not made 851 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: reading for pleasure a priority. But we off that now 852 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: we back on it. So my booze is actually four. 853 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: So as you know, did we talk about that VMA's 854 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:26,720 Speaker 1: that they were in Newark? 855 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, talking about that. 856 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: Oh so if you guys didn't watch, there was a 857 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: young woman named Lizzo who was amazing. She she's breaking 858 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 1: down all these barriers. So her her song truth Hurts 859 00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: where she's like I just took a DNA test and 860 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,879 Speaker 1: the results came back, I'm I'm that bitch or something 861 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:46,840 Speaker 1: like that. But it's amazing. 862 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 2: Now, Okay, go ahead, you just you just said it 863 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 2: so like I just took a DNA test and my 864 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 2: results came back, and I'm one hundred percent that bitch, 865 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 2: even when I'm crying crazy, I got boy problems. Is 866 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,919 Speaker 2: to human me. No, I'll stop. Now continue now, dude, 867 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 2: I'm like any rate it could have had a bad bitch, 868 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 2: noncommittal help you with your career, just a little need 869 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 2: to hold you down, like saying it as if I'm 870 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: just talking to my mom. Yeah, but continue, Yeah, a 871 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 2: lot of. 872 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, She's amazing. And the fact that like she has 873 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 1: like you know, the number one because you know, as 874 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: you know little nas X and Billy ray Cyrus for 875 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 1: Old Time Road. I think he was like number one 876 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: for like seventeen or eighteen weeks in ago he broke 877 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: like the record, mari I Carrey's record. So anyway, what 878 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 1: I love about her is that she is quirky, She 879 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:42,240 Speaker 1: is talented. She herself specifically said, she told Time Magazine 880 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,279 Speaker 1: back in April, I have to be that person because 881 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't see that person because of who I am 882 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,560 Speaker 1: my story happens to have a message to it. The 883 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: space I'm occupying isn't just for me, It's for all 884 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: the big black girls in the future who just want 885 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:56,280 Speaker 1: to be seen. And I just just like, go ahead, 886 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,719 Speaker 1: Lizzle And she plays the flute. She's just amazing, and 887 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,920 Speaker 1: I just yeah, I just honestly, I'm just really happy 888 00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: for her, and yeah, she's just I just wanted to 889 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,480 Speaker 1: just give a shout out to someone who was like, 890 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to show up as myself and you will deal. 891 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,719 Speaker 1: Not only will you deal, you will love it. And 892 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,040 Speaker 1: we are loving it. And Lizzo, congratulations, mama. 893 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: Shout out to Lizzo her flute, Sasha be fluting on Instagram. 894 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,720 Speaker 2: I guess I follow her flute on Instagram. 895 00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love. 896 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 2: That you can follow her flute. Yeah, she's the best. 897 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: So we had a great show. I thought we had 898 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: some really great questions. Please keep asking your questions. If 899 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: you have not told a friend, tell a friend to 900 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: tell a friend and her friend to listen to Brown Ambition. 901 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: We love that you guys like tweet us, that you 902 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: facebook us, that you instagram us, and you know, we 903 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,359 Speaker 1: just love to keep you know, we love showing up 904 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: for y'all, ask your questions, Share a brown break or 905 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: brown boost with us, because quite honestly, sometimes I'm at 906 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: a loss. So if you have a great brown break 907 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,439 Speaker 1: or brown boost, certainly like share them with us because 908 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: we can read them out loud and credit you. Yeah. 909 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: I think I think that we are good. 910 00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 2: We're great, all right, guys, We will see you next week, 911 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 2: all right, all right, bye, t have a good night. 912 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 2: Fingers crossed. The audio is good. I think it's good. 913 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 1: I think