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Speaker 1: Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. Buck, We'll be

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Speaker 1: back with me on Tuesday. I am back from what

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Speaker 1: might be described as a disastrous golf performance at the

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Speaker 1: Live Nashville Golf event. Hank Haney says he can fix

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Speaker 1: my swing as he once fixed Rush swing, So we'll

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Speaker 1: see whether or not that can become a reality. We

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Speaker 1: have got a lot to discuss with all of you

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Speaker 1: as we roll into the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Right off the top.

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Speaker 1: Still no verdict, no ruling, no decision on what exactly

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Speaker 1: is going to happen when it comes to presidential immunity

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Speaker 1: for Donald Trump as it pertains to the January sixth

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Speaker 1: cases brought by Jack Smith.

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Speaker 2: As we've told you for some.

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Speaker 1: Time on this program, it feels like these are going

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Speaker 1: to be released at the absolute latest time imaginable. Next

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Speaker 1: of days of release from the opinions I believe. I

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Speaker 1: was texting with Shannon Breem earlier. She covers the Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court for Fox News. She said there are still sixteen

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Speaker 1: cases that are outstanding, including the Trump immunity case, and

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Speaker 1: what's going to end up happening with the jan sixth cases,

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Speaker 1: that those charges under Sarvaine's Oxley of basically messing up

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Speaker 1: all of that still to come. And we're sitting six

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Speaker 1: days away from the big debate on June twenty seventh

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Speaker 1: in Atlanta on CNN, no crowds, President, but Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: has to stand for ninety minutes, and Joe Biden has

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Speaker 1: now gone to camp. David basically ended everything on his

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Speaker 1: schedule to prepare for a ninety minute debate that is

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Speaker 1: already being called essentially his camp in that if he

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Speaker 1: does poorly in this, the race is effectively over. I've

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Speaker 1: in the second hour. Of course, we will take your

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Speaker 1: calls on a Friday as we often do eight hundred

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Speaker 1: and two two eight A two, and Kelly Leffler, former

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Speaker 1: Senator from Georgia, is going to be with us in

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Speaker 1: the final hour of the program. She's doing great work

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Speaker 1: her advocacy group down there. We will discuss many different

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Speaker 1: But she's the only guest right now scheduled to be

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Speaker 1: with us. So let's dive in because I think there

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Speaker 1: are a couple of stories that are not getting the

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Speaker 1: amount of attention that they should have that I want

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Speaker 1: to discuss with all of you. First, you probably have

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Speaker 1: heard that Alvin Bragg, who charged Donald Trump with thirty

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Speaker 1: four felonies, who elevated misdemeanors too felonies at a time

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Speaker 1: when he almost always is lowering felonies to misdemeanors, has

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Speaker 1: all of the charges against the Columbia University protesters who

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Speaker 1: took over campus buildings clearly violated laws on trespassing. There

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Speaker 1: are arguable assaults that were created and involved in the

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Speaker 2: But let's listen.

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Speaker 1: I believe it has cut for to a discussion about

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Speaker 1: the charges all being dropped there here.

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Speaker 2: It is now that the Manhattan.

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Speaker 3: District Attorney's office has dropped criminal charges against dozens of

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Speaker 3: anti Israel protesters who barricaded themselves in buildings at Columbia

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Speaker 3: and now there's outrage over this move and it is

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Speaker 3: growing fast. Nate Floy is live with the latest on

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Speaker 3: this story for US Nate.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jackie.

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Speaker 4: So, the cases of thirty one Columbia Universities students and

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Speaker 4: staff members arrested at Hamilton Hall are now dismissed. Prosecutors

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Speaker 1: This is bonkers. I would imagine New York City Mayor

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Speaker 1: Eric Adams is furious about this. This is not a

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Speaker 1: difficult case to actually prosecute. They arrested the protesters illegally

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Speaker 1: But the charges are being dropped and at the same

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Speaker 1: to be seen. The reports have been that the district attorney,

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Speaker 1: So I want to bring this up because there are

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Speaker 1: Now there are lots of examples of this. Certainly we

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Speaker 1: the lies that he's told. Hunter Biden finally getting prosecuted,

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Speaker 1: Merrick Garland, the Attorney General of the United States, is

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Speaker 1: refusing to turn over audio recordings of President Biden being

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Speaker 1: questioned by Robert Herr, the special counsel. You'll recall that

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden came out and claimed that he was misquoted,

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Speaker 1: somehow this being an unfair investigation. And remember the ultimate

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Speaker 1: decision of Robert Herr was that Joe Biden was a

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Speaker 1: well meaning elderly man who didn't have the mental faculties

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Speaker 1: I believe it's incredibly important, particularly because the Biden White

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Speaker 1: that all of us should be able to hear Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden answer the questions of Robert Her. There are audio

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Speaker 1: Don't you believe that, given the fact that Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: This is not a remotely difficult question. And the Republicans

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Speaker 1: in Congress voted and said, we believe that this tape

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Speaker 1: should be released. Merrick Garland said no, They held him

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Speaker 1: We can do whatever we want here. So Merrick Garland

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Speaker 1: clear contempt of Congress, no prosecution at all. He's above

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Speaker 1: Bannon defies Congress's orders and he's put in prison for

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Speaker 1: four months. Merrick Garland defies Congressional request that he merely

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Speaker 1: released the actual audio files of Joe Biden's investigation. That

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Speaker 1: That's pretty significant. Second one, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: audio to his ghostwriter of his book. The ghostwriter, as

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Speaker 1: soon as this classified document investigation began, tried to delete

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Speaker 1: They know this, They uncovered that he had done it.

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Speaker 1: Nothing has happened to.

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Speaker 2: Him at all.

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Speaker 1: Repeat this because I think this is actually a situation

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Speaker 1: Remember these guys don't actually write their own autobiographies. The

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Speaker 1: Why has he not been this ghostwriter hauled directly in

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Speaker 2: But on a larger scale, how in the world have.

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Speaker 1: No charges been brought against him, to say nothing of

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden willfully retained classified documents, bragged about having them

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Speaker 2: How many of you even know that.

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Speaker 1: One of the big challenges that frustrates me in general

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Speaker 1: how many of you even knew that ghostwriter story? How

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Speaker 1: many of you knew that Joe Biden is on tape

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Speaker 2: All of these files.

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Speaker 1: That is very clear evidence destruction of evidence. It's an

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Speaker 1: nobody has talked about it at all.

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Speaker 2: Why is this not a major point of discussion.

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Speaker 1: Why is this guy, this ghostwriter not hauled immediately before

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Speaker 1: Congress and made to answer questions? And how in the

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Speaker 1: He's not president, he doesn't have presidential immunity. These conversations

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Speaker 1: There's no claim that these are somehow protected conversations. However,

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Speaker 1: Republicans dropped the ball on this. And what might that

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Speaker 1: him in prison, might he turn on Joe Biden and

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Speaker 1: an easy story for everyone out there to understand. Why

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Speaker 1: to lock the doors. If you were in charge of

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Speaker 1: guys should face the most severe punishment, wouldn't you choose

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Speaker 1: for the person who locked themselves inside of a building

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Speaker 1: the public road who decided to burn out on a

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Speaker 1: Pride flag. I don't know how we have reached a

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Speaker 1: place where defacing a Pride mural is considered a hate

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Speaker 1: crime when it's on a public street. And again, I

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Speaker 1: don't agree with the idea of painting public streets with

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Speaker 1: any slogans or do they do Black Lives Matter plaza

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Speaker 2: I think that was stupid to do.

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Speaker 1: I don't think public roads should make and have political

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Speaker 1: slogans on them of any degree. But think about the

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Speaker 1: two tiered aspect of justice that we have created where

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Speaker 1: Democrats try to put you in prison for the rest

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Speaker 1: of your life if you upset them, and Republicans for

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Speaker 1: the most part, do absolutely nothing to democrats. I'm in

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Speaker 1: favor of Lady Justice being blind, that is the aspirational goal.

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Speaker 1: But if Lady Justice is clearly peeking, if you've basically

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Speaker 1: turned the blindfold and ripped it off and you're throwing

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Speaker 1: the book at Republicans or conservatives, I'm sorry you have

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Speaker 1: to do the same thing to democrats because that's how

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Speaker 1: you actually even the scales. And I was seeing the

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Speaker 1: story with what they're doing to people who are burning

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Speaker 1: rubber on Pride flags on public streets. They have surveillance

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Speaker 1: cameras set up to try to catch people not behaving

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Speaker 1: respectfully enough when it comes to driving over the flag

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Speaker 1: on the road. They are setting traps like a speed trap.

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Speaker 1: It's a hate crime trap. They're trying to catch people

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Speaker 1: not respecting the road enough that they have painted, and

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Speaker 1: people are just saying this is totally fine. By and large,

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Speaker 1: people aren't asking the question, which to me is very basic,

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Speaker 1: why do we have to paint roads? Can we fix potholes?

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Speaker 1: I live in Nashville. They're potholes everywhere. At a cold winter,

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Speaker 1: they still haven't fixed them all. My priority, call me crazy,

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Speaker 1: of any road is make me able to drive on

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Speaker 1: it without exploding my tires, without having to basically be

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Speaker 1: off road trying to avoid hitting big potholes. And it

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Speaker 1: seems to me that Democrats are like, no, no, no, we

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Speaker 1: got to make sure that we have the gay pride

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Speaker 1: flag on the road, and if you don't drive over

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Speaker 1: it respectfully enough, we're going to try to put you

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Speaker 1: in prison. It seems to me you would have a

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Speaker 1: First Amendment argument again, if you want to argue that

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Speaker 1: somebody violated the law because they burned rubber because they

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Speaker 1: drove too fast, I understand that on some level, but

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Speaker 1: that's not what they're doing.

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Speaker 2: They're trying to do hate crimes. Now.

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Speaker 1: For driving over gay pride flags, you create the problem

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Speaker 1: that is make it impossible basically to not drive over

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Speaker 1: the flag and then try to punish to the full

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Speaker 1: extent of the wall. I haven't heard anybody asking why

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Speaker 1: are we painting, but the second part, why are we

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Speaker 1: painting the roads? Second part, why in.

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Speaker 2: The world, Why in the world is this happening?

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Speaker 1: And almost no one is speaking out about it at all.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy, and I would stand on principle on this,

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Speaker 1: even if it's for July fourth, we painted the American

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Speaker 1: flag on a road. If somebody decided that they wanted

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Speaker 1: to disrespect the American flag, I wouldn't agree with it,

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Speaker 1: but I certainly wouldn't agree with trying to put them

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis buck Sexton show. A lot

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Speaker 1: of you weighing in a variety of different topics that

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Speaker 1: we've had so far against a couple of your calls

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Speaker 1: and layout where we're headed. But a good question from Damon,

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Speaker 1: did the ghost writer succeed in destroying the audio tapes?

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Speaker 1: How much of the evidence was destroyed, how much survived

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Speaker 1: the destruction? Some of us out here would like to know. Hey, Damon,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you. We do not know all of the

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Speaker 1: details publicly about what exactly has happened with Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: ghostwriter and the tapes that he tried to destroy. I

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Speaker 1: believe he claimed that he retained the transcripts. Very interesting

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Speaker 1: decision there, Right, There is a legal canon essentially that

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Speaker 1: says in cases that if it's proven that you destroyed evidence,

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Speaker 1: you can draw an inference that the evidence would not

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Speaker 1: have been helpful to the individual that destroyed it. Pretty basic, right,

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Speaker 1: If you have a gun that you committed a crime

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Speaker 1: with and you throw it into a lake, and there's

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Speaker 1: video of you throwing that gun into the lake, and

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Speaker 1: for some reason they can't find it or you throw

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Speaker 1: it into the ocean. It's reasonable to presume that you

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Speaker 1: didn't want that gun found because it might be a

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Speaker 1: negative for you.

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Speaker 2: That's not crazy at.

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Speaker 1: All, and so alarm bell should immediately set off in

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Speaker 1: your head when you hear that Joe Biden's ghostwriter tried

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Speaker 1: to destroy all of the audio recordings of Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: the minute that the investigation into the classified documents that

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Speaker 1: Biden retained began. And this to me, for Judge Eileen

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Speaker 1: Cannon in South Florida, who has the classified documents case

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Speaker 1: against Trump, all of this evidence to me is quite

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Speaker 1: clear that all the classified documents cases should be dropped.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump's going to win in November in this

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Speaker 1: case will basically vanish. And I think She's done a

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Speaker 1: good job dragging her feet on this process and actually

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Speaker 1: holding Jack Smith accountable for everything that has been going on.

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Speaker 1: But this is crazy that we would ever have reached

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Speaker 1: the point where Biden is legitimately destroying evidence and there's

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Speaker 1: audio of him bragging about having classified documents when he

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Speaker 1: had no presidential privilege at all, and they say that

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Speaker 1: his brain doesn't work well enough for him to be

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Speaker 1: charged with a crime. Meanwhile, he's trying to run for reelection,

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Speaker 1: arguing that his brain is working so well that he

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Speaker 1: should be trusted in, trusted with the biggest and most

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Speaker 1: important job in America for the next four years. That

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Speaker 1: to me all feels like a major point of the

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Speaker 1: emphasis that should become a big Republican talking point that's

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Speaker 1: being totally missed right now.

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Speaker 2: Joe in Colorado, what you got.

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Speaker 7: Whether or not the ghost Rada had a clearance.

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Speaker 2: Security clearer military.

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Speaker 7: For twenty years, and I held a top secret clearance,

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Speaker 7: and we ever gave all that information out with the

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Speaker 7: in Fort Leavenworth campus.

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Speaker 1: Yes, thank you for the culture. It's a great question.

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Speaker 1: Buck has talked about this when he was at the CIA.

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Speaker 1: If he had done what Joe Biden did, Buck says

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Speaker 1: he would be lucky to be a trying to avoid

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Speaker 1: prison time potentially years in prison, and to brag about

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Speaker 1: finding the classified documents on tape to your ghost writer

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Speaker 1: makes it quite clear that you willfully retain that information. Now,

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Speaker 1: the next step, of course, is why do you think

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Speaker 1: that some of them might have involved Ukraine, might have

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Speaker 1: involved Russia, might have involved China, and in some way

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Speaker 1: aided and abetted Hunter Biden and being able to argue

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Speaker 1: that he deserved tens of millions of dollars from foreign

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Speaker 1: interest I don't think that's a crazy connection to make.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that and more rolling through the Friday edition.

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Speaker 1: I'm Clay Travis. Thanks for hanging