WEBVTT - Live From Melbourne 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:17.280 Okay, Hi everybody, welcome to the Reneetlips Tennis Podcast. We 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:21.120 are bringing you live literally live and in person here 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:23.279 with my great friend Andrea Pekovic. 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.800 Hi, Hi, nice to see you. We are on floor 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:30.320 four of the players. It don't win for though, I 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:33.720 don't want to bother people who are trying to eat. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.440 Actually I wanted to say the players restaurant, but it's 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:41.320 kind of players restaurants here at them. 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:45.680 If we're on the top floor, we are sitting rather 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:49.720 close to the Spanish contingent who are sitting over there. 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.000 So if you hear the names and the voices in 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.440 the background, that is who it is. But yeah, anyway, 0:00:55.480 --> 0:00:57.880 let's get into it. So we started Sunday. I had 0:00:57.920 --> 0:01:00.280 a lot of rain and so we a lot of 0:01:00.280 --> 0:01:03.240 matches were canceled. But give me your first thoughts on 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:05.880 just overall the start of the tournament. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.200 Okay, So let's start with the two matches I did, 0:01:08.240 --> 0:01:10.080 and then maybe the ones you did. So I did 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:14.840 Ankatodoni the qualifier twenty years old against chin Wean Jang. 0:01:15.200 --> 0:01:18.679 It was a fantastic first set. I mean considering in 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.160 the second week we will see better matches. But considering 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.640 it's the first round of a Grand Slam tournament. I 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.160 thought it was really good tennis. Unka to DONI is 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.240 playing well. I think she can do really well this year. 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:34.959 She had kind of a meteoric rise through the challenges 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:39.480 last year and qualified here, qualified in Brisbane, so she's 0:01:39.520 --> 0:01:41.840 been doing really well. Has won six matches. She's already 0:01:41.959 --> 0:01:42.759 twenty years old. 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:45.120 Okay, So you know, it's funny when you think, okay, 0:01:45.160 --> 0:01:48.440 it's huge, huge, huge opportunity there right at twenty years 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:50.560 of age, and then you think Kaka gov twenty years 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:50.880 of ages. 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:54.440 Yeah, that's cricky. But she's like she can, yes, and 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:57.640 alien well, like from another world. I always say that 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.640 about player like immortals, you know, who do things that 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.360 normal people can. There from another world, sent to this 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:06.760 earth to pleasure us with that tennis. 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.840 Yes, indeed, and chin. 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:11.480 When I thought she looked actually she looked fully in control. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.919 She was five three, five four, serving for the. 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:16.160 Member down forty love, but she was down three set 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:17.560 points in the first WLD, so that's the thing. 0:02:17.639 --> 0:02:20.239 She was serving for the set five four forty love 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:22.560 and then got a little bit tight, just pulled back, 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:25.040 and I have to give credit to to Doni because 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:27.280 she could have just as easy gotten and unforced errors 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:29.200 and to Dony just didn't miss. She just went for 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:33.200 her shots. Chin went's speed of Groundstokes dropped a little, 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:35.320 didn't make it first serves, and all of a sudden 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:37.880 it was five six and the other girl had fifteen 0:02:37.919 --> 0:02:40.880 forty two set points. And I will say, man, Chin 0:02:40.960 --> 0:02:43.560 when is good under pressure? Yeah, she is good. 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:45.959 Do you think that she's getting better or do you 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:46.720 think she's always been? 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.799 Like, No, I think she's getting better. I think she's 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:51.760 always She was always good in sort of hiding her emotions. 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.040 I think a lot is going on underneath, but she's 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.760 good in hiding it. But I think the hiding of 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:00.720 it is transferring into what she's actually feeling. Because she 0:03:00.720 --> 0:03:03.120 couldn't find the first surf for a couple of games. 0:03:03.400 --> 0:03:06.200 Fifteen forty boom through first serfs. Yeah, and then in 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.560 the tiebreak the same made our first serfs. And then 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:10.600 it's so easy because her first surf is so good. 0:03:11.040 --> 0:03:13.040 And then once she found her rhythm, and it has 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.079 to be said, this was her first match of the season. 0:03:15.120 --> 0:03:17.800 She pulled out a United Cup did in play since 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:21.920 the WTA finals, so she's had quite a break compared 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.080 to other players, and I thought she did well in 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:26.240 the first set and then very well in the second set. 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.640 Yeah. So Sabalanca last night? 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:30.120 Oh yeah, yeah, perfect? 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.919 Was How would you describe that? Did you watch the match? 0:03:33.960 --> 0:03:35.640 Because I thought it was a little patchy. I didn't 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.920 think it was. Like I said in the coverage with 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.520 Patrick McEnroe and Mary Joe Fernandez, I said, I don't 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.320 think she'll be ultra happy about this, the way she played, 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:45.120 and then Mary Joe said, no, I think she'll be 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:47.560 happy that she's gotten through. And you know, it wasn't 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:51.000 an easy, you know, name matchup. She's playing against Sloane Stevens, 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.000 and you know, it's tough to see Sloan not playing 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:56.480 well because you know, we know what she's capable of doing. 0:03:56.520 --> 0:03:59.000 But you can see just the lack of confidence in her. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:00.880 That's nine matches in a that she's lost in the 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:03.000 first round, and I don't know how many matches you've 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.000 lost in a row, but it starts to five for yeah, mentally, 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.680 it starts to really hurt you. And I think that 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:09.200 lost of the US Open when she was up a 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:11.880 set in three loves and then ended up losing that 0:04:11.920 --> 0:04:15.120 first round because it devastated her. I can't even remember. 0:04:15.240 --> 0:04:19.160 It was just so unbelievable that she ended up losing. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:22.600 But to see Sloan, you know, pulling off a shots 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.880 not committing to them. Yeah, and it was just a 0:04:25.920 --> 0:04:27.760 shit draw, let's face it. I mean, the one person 0:04:27.800 --> 0:04:29.320 you really didn't want to play in the first round 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:31.760 was probably Sabalalnca, just because she comes in with so 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:36.520 much confidence after winning Queensland in Brisbane. So anyway, I 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.680 thought she she did. She played well enough, Saba Anca, 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.719 but I think that she'll be happy to get through 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:43.400 the first round, but I think she'll be looking to 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.320 improve on a few things like just very scratchy the 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:49.159 certain shots that she shouldn't be scratchy on. It'd be 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.880 one thing like if she was, you know, chen Wen 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.040 coming in not having a lot of matches at. 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:54.599 All this year. 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:56.760 She's had a lot of matches. So look, she got 0:04:56.800 --> 0:04:59.680 through the match and I think, as we all know, 0:04:59.839 --> 0:05:02.000 for around for a nightmare, they're very nerve wracking, and 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:03.520 so she got through them. Well. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:07.120 Just to just to underline what you just said, I 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.000 think that really broke her because it was against Clara Burrell, 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.159 and she was not only upset and three oh, she 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:14.440 was up six oh three oh. So she was up 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:17.400 nine zero and then lost the match seven five and 0:05:17.480 --> 0:05:20.200 the third. So that'll do it. Honestly, I just watched 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:23.040 the match until four zero in the first set, and 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:24.520 I thought Sabolenka looked like. 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:26.680 She had never I thought a three love it was 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.640 going to be love and loss. Yes, she was so 0:05:28.720 --> 0:05:30.359 old and she went back to the point. That's what 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.440 I'm talking about the patch. She just went off like 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.520 all of a sudden, like two or three games. It 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:38.280 was just horrendous tns from her. So those are the 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:40.920 things that I feel like, if she's going to win 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:43.400 the tournament, which she's the favorite to do, she needs 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.280 to cut down on those errors when there was really 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.120 no pressure on her, you know what I mean. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.160 When one question I wanted to ask you because I 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:54.120 did see that Sloan almost played only slices on the 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.839 backhead or a lot of slices, and she doesn't usually 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.159 do that. Now, granted I haven't seen her since the 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:02.080 US Open. Do you think there was a tactical choice 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.000 by them or do you think she's just trying to 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:05.000 hit more slices? 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:07.000 I think it was a combination. She was a little 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:09.760 bit you know, her foot what wasn't great to it, 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:10.960 and so she's kind of a little bit and I 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:13.840 wouldn't say lazy, she's a bit late to it. But 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:17.680 also it's a good tactic against Sabalanka. You don't really 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:19.760 want to give her pace. She's going to kill you. 0:06:19.880 --> 0:06:21.880 So I think it was a choice of hers to 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.120 hit the slice and try and mix it up and 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.159 in the end it got elicited a lot of errors, 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:30.760 but look overall, sablank is still the player to be 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:31.440 for sure. 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:32.000 Yeah. 0:06:32.160 --> 0:06:32.400 Nice. 0:06:32.400 --> 0:06:35.719 So what the match I did was the Paula Badosa 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.039 match against Oh yeah, Wang Ji knew there was a 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.320 fantastic I did that match as well. Yeah, that was 0:06:40.320 --> 0:06:42.760 really you had to probably leave it way I was leaving. 0:06:43.080 --> 0:06:46.040 I left after the first set in a bit okay, 0:06:46.400 --> 0:06:48.720 and Wang was like very successful coming into the net. 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:50.560 Oh my god. And it was so funny because I 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:53.919 met god On he's her. She has a Serbian coach 0:06:53.960 --> 0:06:56.120 who has moved to China five years ago and has 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.360 been working with her. And I've met him an hour 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:01.080 before the man and I asked him, what did you 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:03.560 guys work on and he said to me, well, she's 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.159 a really good doubles players because she won the French 0:07:06.200 --> 0:07:09.600 Allengaros exactly in doubles, so we want her to come 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:11.680 to the net more often, and I mentioned it in 0:07:11.720 --> 0:07:14.200 the broadcast. And then she came to the net seventeen 0:07:14.280 --> 0:07:16.000 times and won sixteen points. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:18.360 I guess what one she didn't win that point. 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.400 That was really sad. Yeah, she rushed that one a 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.680 little bit. But it was funny because I worked on 0:07:24.760 --> 0:07:27.360 plenty of things and off seasons and they didn't work 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.200 so well right off the bed coming into the first 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.200 grandson after year, so that was really impressive. But I 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:34.800 thought she played man. She had stretches of play where 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:36.720 she looked like the best player in the world. It 0:07:36.760 --> 0:07:40.640 was incredible and badosa. I felt she played a really 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:43.760 good conservative match. She didn't go for too much, she 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:48.200 had big targets, moved well, really extended the rallies long 0:07:48.360 --> 0:07:50.760 and nicely when she needed to, and won all the 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.960 important points. So I think for her for her first round, 0:07:53.960 --> 0:07:57.120 this was a very solid, good performance. I think she 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.680 can definitely play more aggressive in the future. But it 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:02.640 wasn't easy because, as we just mentioned, one came out 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:04.840 firing on our cylinder. So there was a tough first 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:06.720 round for part Life. Yeah, yeah, it was good. It 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:08.480 was good match for her because also one was one 0:08:08.520 --> 0:08:09.080 of the. 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.800 Players just outside of being seated, So that was one 0:08:11.800 --> 0:08:14.080 of the toughest first rounds. I want to get into. 0:08:14.240 --> 0:08:15.920 Let's talk about a couple of matches from today and 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.520 then the looks look at the big picture of the tournament, 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:20.920 because we are going to you know, so you did Coco, 0:08:21.240 --> 0:08:23.960 So I did Coco today? Did you happen to see 0:08:24.000 --> 0:08:24.640 any of the match? 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:26.600 No, I was doing another match at the. 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:28.960 Same So I think it's a match that Coco. 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:29.200 Look. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:31.280 You know she did admit after the match, because I 0:08:31.280 --> 0:08:33.800 did interview her after the match for ESPN and she said, look, 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.680 I was very very nervous. It's a matchup that's not 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.000 been good for her. She's lost. Out of the three 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:41.520 times they've played, she's lost to Sophia Kennon. 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:44.000 Twice, and both of them on Grand Slam level, and both. 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.359 At Grand Slam level, and once here in the quarterfinals 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:49.400 when Sophia Kennon won the tournament. Clearly, Coco Cop is 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.840 much better player than she was back then, and yeah, older, 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.760 and she was stronger. I think she was sixteen, but 0:08:55.240 --> 0:08:57.880 I mean that's pretty but you know, outrageously young, let's 0:08:57.880 --> 0:08:59.280 put it that way. But you know you could tell 0:08:59.280 --> 0:09:02.440 that she was a little nerve us. There's a bunch 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:05.160 of double faults today. I think seven or eight at least. 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:06.800 A lot of it had to do with the sun. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:07.719 From that end of the. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:10.719 Course, you made us such a great mind earlier when 0:09:10.760 --> 0:09:14.240 we just talked briefly before we started recording. She has 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:17.480 only played indoors. Yeah, since she has that change, both 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:20.680 Wukhan and Beijing have they don't have the fork and 0:09:21.120 --> 0:09:25.600 Perth yes, and Sydney complete they are completely covered even 0:09:25.640 --> 0:09:28.320 but both Beijing and Juan have like this half kind 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:31.080 of thing where you feel protected from the wind. They 0:09:31.120 --> 0:09:33.679 always played at night. They tend to play at night, 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.160 so you don't have the sun. And then of course 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:39.720 the WTA finals which he won was completely indoors, so 0:09:39.800 --> 0:09:41.840 that was a really and you think that's the difference 0:09:41.840 --> 0:09:44.079 the conditions and the weather coming into play. 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:45.959 Yeah. Well, what I said at the start of the 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.200 match today was the one thing I'm interested in seeing 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:51.000 from Coco is how the serve is going to handle 0:09:51.080 --> 0:09:55.400 the pressure outdoors. Because she hasn't played outdoors, she hasn't 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:58.839 had a lot of conditions to deal with sun and wind. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:01.120 And we saw what happen today. There was a seven 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.800 or eight double faults. A lot of it came down 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:05.280 the end with the sun. I get it. But if 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.839 you have a if you have a mechanically sound serve, 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:10.439 you will find a way to throw the ball to 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.160 us up anyway to get it in the court. And 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.160 she had a struggle with that today. So that's a 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:15.600 little concerning. Will she play. 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.320 Sorry, I don't know the words mechanically sound served. 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:22.640 Yeah, can you explain a more in depth. 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:24.640 I don't know what these words mean next to each. 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:58.439 Will have very nice right, very nice right. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.640 But you know, mechanical sounds serve meaning like my look, 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:05.400 I'm not comparing myself to Coco. She's a greater tennis 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:07.320 plan than I could ever be. But I had a 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.120 mechanically sound serve. So if the serve, if the sun 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.000 was in my eyes, I could throw the ball, toss 0:11:12.080 --> 0:11:13.560 all the way to the right and still hit it 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:15.880 in because I could just hit a slider serve, you know, 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:18.720 And so you have to be able to you know. 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:21.959 Serena was famous of throwing that ball, toss like randomly 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.040 here at this train open, just getting in in the court. 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:25.840 Right, She did it to me that one time. 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:26.440 Yeah. 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:29.360 Every time I thought she's serving a slice, she won tea. 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.400 When she threw it for a kick, she went slice. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:32.480 That was so tough to read. 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.559 Yeah, And I mean so mechanically sound is important when 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:38.959 you're nervous and when you're dealing with surroundings like sun 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:40.679 and wind and various things. 0:11:40.760 --> 0:11:44.560 So she's just want to see David Ferrer, the Spanish 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:48.360 contagious that you mentioned. They're sitting here and drinking beer 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.560 and I appreciate that so much. It's five pm, well. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.880 Somewhere, yeah, okay, and listen, five pm in Australia is 0:11:55.960 --> 0:11:58.920 like it's like midnight. Okay, all right, So let's just 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:03.880 I'm happy for this this Spanish contingent. Clearly their players won, 0:12:04.120 --> 0:12:06.040 I hope, and they're celebrated. 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:07.600 Are still is about to play? 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:11.480 That is true, that'll be drunk, yes, well, good for them. 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:14.720 So that's a little bit of a concern. The forehand 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.160 was okay, it wasn't great, but it was okay. I 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.319 thought Sophie can have played tactically, which is unusual for 0:12:20.360 --> 0:12:22.280 her because she's pretty good tactically. I thought she played 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:24.400 a tactically poor match today. I thought she didn't go 0:12:24.440 --> 0:12:27.360 after the forehand enough and she had a lot of opportunities. 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:30.319 But Coco got through it. Admitted that she was nervous 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:34.880 and this court is quick, so going further in the tournament. 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.720 But interestingly enough, Coco said that she gets less nervous 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:39.959 as the tournament goes on. 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.240 I had the same thing. I mean again, I think, 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.080 but I always tried to explain this to people when 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.440 journalists would ask you before a quarters, before a semis, 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.960 aren't you aren't you so nervous now that you're playing semis? 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:54.959 And I was like, I'm in the semis. I know 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.600 I'm playing well. You know I won like five matches. Yeah, 0:12:57.600 --> 0:12:59.640 of course I'm playing well. It's much worse than the 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.360 first round. You haven't played in the conditions. Anything can 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:07.320 happen in the first round, especially on Sundays. Now that 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.480 they have the Sunday start. The worst thing that can 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.080 happen to you is lose at eleven am on a Sunday. 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.760 The tournament hasn't even started and you're already on the 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.320 plane back, especially from Europe because the planes leave at midnight, 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:22.520 so you're like already like waving from across the ocean 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:27.160 to the planes that haven't even seen. So that's a 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.360 terrible feeling to have. And I agree, But you could 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.960 also tell with her last year here she was scratchy 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.080 at times in the first week and then played a 0:13:35.120 --> 0:13:38.440 really great match against Arena Sabalenka. Yeah, in the semi finals. 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:40.520 Since she's gone. And that's what the top players do, right, 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.520 they get better with the tournaments when it progressed. Yeah. 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.640 I think it's hard for people to understand that because 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.400 they think, well, the first round should be easier because 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:49.720 you're playing at like a lesser less yer. Yeah, but 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.440 it's not because you feel comfortable now you've prepared for 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.320 these big matches. I was the same way. First round, 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:58.240 you're shitting yourself, quarter final, semi final, you're like, let's go. 0:13:58.520 --> 0:13:58.840 Yes. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.360 So it was good hear that from her. So I 0:14:01.400 --> 0:14:02.959 did say to her, and I find it. I go 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:05.559 to see what you thought about this, But I said, 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.280 leading into this match, for the last three or four days, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.240 when you knew the schedule, you knew who you were 0:14:10.240 --> 0:14:13.000 playing in the first round, did you focus on playing 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.439 against Kennon or did you focus on what you were 0:14:15.480 --> 0:14:18.720 doing and for the tournament? And she said for the tournament. 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:20.840 In the last day, I focused on what I was 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:22.720 going to do in my match against Sophia I am 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.040 prior to that, I only thought about what I needed 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:26.720 to do to get through the tournament. So I thought 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.760 that was a really interesting way of thinking, and also 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.600 a little bit of a look into her mind that 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:36.040 she's that confident. So anyway, that was. That was I 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.000 thought a great good start. In the end, it could 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.320 have been better just the way she played, but having 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:43.040 lost to Cannon and the fact that Kenon what a 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:44.240 shitty draw for her, my. 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:46.720 God, And to be fair, the last time she lost 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.440 to Canon, she went on an absolute tear afterwards because 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:52.040 she lost them womens right and then one basically every 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:53.520 tournament that ever happened. 0:14:53.640 --> 0:14:55.200 So maybe it's not a good thing. I'm just kidding. 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:59.080 Laura Robson said something funny, I say she said because 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:03.040 it was about that Catodoni and and Chinwuan Jang match. 0:15:03.320 --> 0:15:06.440 She said, like, when you play this, when you're a qualifier, 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:09.080 you come as a lower ranked player into these tournaments 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:10.880 and you play a hide see, there will always be 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.240 somebody in the locker room telling you, well, it's good 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:15.640 that you get them now, better than to get them 0:15:15.680 --> 0:15:16.440 in the fourth or. 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:19.320 Well, actually I have said that to somebody this week, 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:22.240 a young player from Australia who's playing one of the 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.440 best players in the world as well, give out it 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:26.920 to get them in their And it is true. 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:29.120 And there will always be somebody who will tell to you, 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:30.600 over qualifier, that's tough. 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:34.680 They have already won, play three matches, not just those 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:38.320 tennis stereotypes that every time you play somebody like this 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.760 you will hear in the locker room at least once. 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:45.160 Yeah, exactly. We just I just interviewed Francis Tiafo after 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.880 his battle. Five set match was incredible, My god, five sets, 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.520 puking on the court, hitting under armed serfs. I mean, 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:55.240 it was the most Francis Tiafo match I've seen in 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.720 a long time. But he got through it and he said, 0:15:57.720 --> 0:16:00.000 you know, look, I know I'm getting to the second 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:02.440 part of my career. And so he said, if I'd 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.120 been in a reddit, I think he's I'm not sure, 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:08.720 I'll have you look it up, but he understands it. Look, 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:12.800 his end rate maybe is mid thirties, thirty six, and 0:16:12.840 --> 0:16:14.960 so he is technically getting to the second part of 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:17.240 his career, right, he's probably like twenty six or twenty 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:22.640 seven six. So he said, I would have defaulted that 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:25.160 match today if it wasn't a Grand Slam. And so 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.880 that's how much he fought through. He was cramping, he 0:16:27.920 --> 0:16:31.640 was having side cramps. He was like tanking return games 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:34.760 to conserve energy for his service games. And actually, in fact, 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:37.920 he tanked the last game and he was started diting 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:39.640 winners all over the place and ended up winning the game, 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:42.800 which was important because he would have had to serve 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:45.760 into the wind uphill, which he probably thinking, what do 0:16:45.760 --> 0:16:50.280 you mean uphill? There's a slight little, a little tilt 0:16:50.320 --> 0:16:52.040 on the courts here at this strain, open the tilt 0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:54.560 down to the river. It's very minor, but when you're 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.080 out there, you feel it. And he would have been 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:57.960 serving uphill into the wind. And let me tell you 0:16:57.960 --> 0:16:59.360 something that would have been hard for him. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.200 And I don't know if you've ever cramped. I cramped. 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:05.320 I have cramped indoors and stood out playing doubles. How 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:06.280 embarrassing that is? 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.600 Weird? We will just glaze over it. As if it 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:09.840 never happened. I'm glad. 0:17:09.560 --> 0:17:11.119 I know what it feels like. 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:15.040 Yeah, well, I will say I crammed once and then 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.000 I retired three months later because I was like, I'm 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.119 out of here. I'm not fit anymore. And it is 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:25.200 really hard on those quick explosive motions, which for Francis 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.720 is the serf, so there would have been hard to 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:28.280 serve out. 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:30.480 It was not easy. It was painful. He was and 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.399 he was puking, so he's clearly lost a condition. He's like, 0:17:34.040 --> 0:17:35.720 you know that's going to make the cramp. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:36.760 Jack Draper puke. 0:17:37.080 --> 0:17:39.800 He Jack Draper puked all over he was Yeah, but 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:43.040 he did it strategically, really smart thing. He puked right 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.600 near the baseline, so they had to take forever to 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:48.560 clean it up. So I think the people that clean 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:52.000 that stuff up need to get a race. Just frankly, 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:53.000 and the dude that did. 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.960 It, even we ran into his girlfriend. Even his girlfriend 0:17:56.040 --> 0:17:56.920 was like the poor girl. 0:17:57.840 --> 0:17:59.159 Yeah, well there was a girl that cleaned up. There 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.080 was a guy there was like he was puking all 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:03.879 over the place. But anyway, it was a great effort 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:05.720 from him. And let's see how he handles that. Because 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.080 you've got a couple of days off now to recover, 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.879