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Speaker 1: It's Friday. It gets artsy in these parts. August twenty sixth,

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Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, Luke, are you gonna survive this? Do you

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Speaker 1: have the Colombian COVID? Are you upset that I brought

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Speaker 2: No? I took that. It's not COVID. I mean when

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Speaker 2: what else is new? You know what I mean? Luke?

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Speaker 1: Latin women have taken everything you've worked for, and you've

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Speaker 2: Really, it's really quite true. I had this ship. I

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Speaker 2: it's a difference he just turned thirty six years of age.

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Speaker 2: when he, like every fighter, like every person, his career

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Speaker 1: Before we talk about this, Luke off camera and on DJ,

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Speaker 1: I sort of said, well, what were the topies? I

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Speaker 2: Well, here's my thing to fighters, right, this is my

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Speaker 1: Traveled across three state lines to have pizza with a

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Speaker 2: Really, I'm not saying that, but they should be a

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Speaker 1: Did you see what the opening of this Room Service

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Speaker 2: Bro Okay, what dude, you just talked to him.

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Speaker 1: It's on brand. Let's go to Mighty Mouse on the couch.

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Speaker 1: Looking back at that loss April of twenty twenty one

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Speaker 3: Man, I'll tell you what if to that fight, I

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Speaker 4: They were illegal?

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Speaker 3: They're like, why is that man disqualified? I'm like, guys,

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Speaker 1: Like he's a big ass flyway too, with the with

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Speaker 3: See, the funny thing is that I weigh bigger than

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Speaker 3: I don't know how big they are, like eight weeks

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Speaker 4: I just carry I just carry it differently, right, So.

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Speaker 1: You carry it now in the abs and then.

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Speaker 4: My abs are Look at those abs.

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Speaker 3: So now when I go out and I could pete,

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Speaker 4: So, but he is taller. I mean he's five ten,

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Speaker 3: So there is a range avantity has And even in

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Speaker 4: He isn't the first tall guy I've read.

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Speaker 2: True.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, when I came back home, I don't know

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Speaker 4: There I got blasts in the face. I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Look, if I had abs like that, I'd be showing

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Speaker 1: I would all right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if I was an athlete like that, I mean,

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Speaker 1: He does look a lot taller than that DJ saying

434
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 1: five to ten right there, it is essentially up away class.

435
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 1: But like always, DJ has taken that loss in stride,

436
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 1: no eagle. I mean, look, Luke, I've I've had some

437
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: really good interviews. You're right, really since he signed with one.

438
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,440
Speaker 1: Maybe some of that load was taking off his shoulders

439
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,879
Speaker 1: of Like, you know, he's had some public battles with

440
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,800
Speaker 1: Dana White Company about you know, how they promoted him

441
00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,400
Speaker 1: and he was taking off pay per view a while

442
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,040
Speaker 1: ago and putting on title fight main events on fight

443
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 1: Night cards. But it is seemingly a different DJ now.

444
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: He knows he's happy, secure, He doesn't like crap get

445
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 1: him down. In fact, Luke, I've always said, and I

446
00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,359
Speaker 1: told him, you know when you lost to Shudo in

447
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,280
Speaker 1: that rematch before the trade God we're talking about, does

448
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 1: usman deserve the immediate trilogy rematch? If anyone deserved it,

449
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: it was DJ. But Luke, he never complained once about

450
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 1: the scoring, about the two major injuries he's had. That's

451
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:45,560
Speaker 1: what he's about. But speaking of Henrica, Hudo, dude, they

452
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 1: have hooked up ahead of the for the training camp

453
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 1: ahead of this Shaman or I'm sorry, not Shaman Adriana

454
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 1: Morich's rematch, and that's kind of surprising to me given

455
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 1: their two fight history. Let's hear DJ who does an

456
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 1: incredible impersonation. You're about to hear of one triple Cringe

457
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:02,120
Speaker 1: Henry Sujudo.

458
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 4: You've been training with Henry Shudo though, my man, Harry,

459
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,360
Speaker 4: you and.

460
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: The King of Cringe get hooked.

461
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:09,080
Speaker 4: Up as buddies.

462
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 3: So once again, no ego, right. I reached out to

463
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 3: Wild Harris, I say, yo, Man. I was like, I

464
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 3: got a house in Arizona. I was like, you mind

465
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,399
Speaker 3: if I get Harry shutters then he goes, yeah, called Henry,

466
00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: he goes yo, Demetrius man, he goes. I was kind of,

467
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 3: you know, skeptical. You called me bruh.

468
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 2: That's actually I could actually hear it. I could hear it.

469
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 4: I didn't think you called me.

470
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 1: M's to be thinking about a trilogy?

471
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 2: What's up?

472
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 4: Tetris? Got you gotta place that, you know? Yeah?

473
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, I just want to

474
00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 3: know if you want to You called me just coming

475
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 3: to mix it up and vibe out and just training

476
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 3: goes absolutely, man, I will, I've got some things I want.

477
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 4: To go over with you.

478
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 1: So much come to the house, like, well be ill

479
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: having the history with him. Have you been watching where

480
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 1: fighters are starting to pick him out, and you know,

481
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 1: whether it was Jung Way Lee, whether it was Figuredo,

482
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,919
Speaker 1: they're starting to seek him out and adding his you know,

483
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: but also.

484
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 4: With the Captain Eric elbor scene, let's put respect on

485
00:22:57,400 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 4: his name. I don't worry about Captain.

486
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he's flashy, it's hard to look at.

487
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I see that.

488
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 3: But for me, whether those guys would have seeked him out,

489
00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 3: I mean I've always respected him astudo, even as we

490
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 3: fought each other at both times, and he's done something

491
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 3: in his sport and mixed mush arts I've never done,

492
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 3: and also wrestling, I mean to the visional champion, he

493
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 3: defended both belts. I mean, he's achieved a lot in

494
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: mixed martial arts. So it was a no brainer for me, like, hey, dude,

495
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,160
Speaker 3: like let's let's work out together, right, because even when

496
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 3: we trained together, like we did one full week and

497
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 3: then he went a vacation, but we trained a lot.

498
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 3: He goes, I understand why you were successful, and now

499
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 3: I understand why he's successful.

500
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 4: So it was good. I imagine that Rocky and Apollo thing.

501
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 2: Well I gat to see.

502
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Chuck went out to paying a nice Rocky

503
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 1: Apollo half shirt on the beach picture of the two

504
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: of them. But look, fighters that have gone to to

505
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: Sahudo for advice, which have been a growing number of

506
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: big names lately, they come out more effective in their

507
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: wrestling attacks and using the ground game to better set

508
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: up their offense. They come out better strategically too. Look,

509
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: they've they worked out together for a week. I don't

510
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 1: know how deep they went on game planning for this rematch,

511
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: but it does sort of set up the question of

512
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: how does DJ win the rematch? Knowing he can fight

513
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: any style. I mean, he's among he might be the

514
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: most well rounded mixed martial artists I've ever seen, which

515
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,000
Speaker 1: is why he's included in these upper Upper Room conversations.

516
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: Will we see the suhudo effect on DJ in this rematch?

517
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,359
Speaker 2: I don't think there's enough there for that to really

518
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 2: play a role. And also, you got to remember DJ's

519
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: longtime coach, Matt Hume, is one of the better minds

520
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 2: in all of MMA. I am curious to see how

521
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 2: they solve the problem because in the first fight he

522
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: had a hard time closing the distance and really kind

523
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 2: of and and locking up maraish and so I wonder like,

524
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: what will they do this time? Will they try and

525
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,359
Speaker 2: get him to come to them or what will be

526
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,400
Speaker 2: the role? But it's not so much about the Sahudo

527
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 2: effect and mortis. I just want to say, like, I

528
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,359
Speaker 2: remember when DJ was champion and like all of the

529
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 2: fucking conversation about him, and I'm guilty of committing to,

530
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: you know, participating in this as well. Sorry, I'm just got,

531
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: I've got, you know, I got my eyes are watering

532
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: like crazy. But the reality is this, when he was championed,

533
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: every conversation about Demetrius Johnson was about like why doesn't

534
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: he sell more? And why aren't there more higher ratings

535
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,479
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah, and he's not a draw this

536
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 2: and he's not a draw that, and it all missed

537
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: the point, it all missed the point off. Yeah, listen,

538
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: you know, is he as popular as Connor McGregor. No, not,

539
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 2: not really like and not everyone's going to be. And

540
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 2: that's not really a part of his story. But if

541
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: you want to take time to appreciate a guy who

542
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,359
Speaker 2: is historically good, historically good I think in ways that

543
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: will translate across eras take it for what he's got,

544
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 2: take it for what he's got, take him for what

545
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,359
Speaker 2: he offers the sport at this moment in time. And

546
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 2: while his profile probably is not as high level in

547
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 2: ONE as it is in UFC in terms of the

548
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,919
Speaker 2: general public's awareness about what he's up to, I am

549
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 2: so glad that most of these conversations around him have

550
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: gone away. You don't have to have these conversations anymore

551
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 2: about like why isn't he you know, the kind of this,

552
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: that and the other draw and it's like, how about

553
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: we just talk about a guy who's fucking awesome, who's

554
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 2: in awesome fights, who's really good at it, and let's

555
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: see what he can do. And the shift in that

556
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 2: conversation it looks to MEBC and I'm just speculating here,

557
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: it looks to me like if it's a weight off

558
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: on my shoulders in the media, I can only imagine

559
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 2: how much better he feels about it. And good for him,

560
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: he's it's long overdue.

561
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: Indeed, and I couldn't reference enough not only this chat

562
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,479
Speaker 1: the other ones I've had recently with him, but just

563
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: like how much he's able to be this competitive and great,

564
00:26:56,040 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: but literally separate that lingering like effect that competition has

565
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: on you, where you hold the power of windsor losses

566
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: higher than they're actually meet actual meaning. As he will

567
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: always say, like I just want to go home and

568
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: be a dad or you know, and play video games

569
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: and stream and all that. Like he dude, he's I

570
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: think he's mentally kind of beating the game. And that's

571
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: you know, this was a power move to go to

572
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 1: one financially, but you know, he's not worried about the

573
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 1: things that we worry about for the fighters that we

574
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,400
Speaker 1: assume they should be worried about. So, Luke, I hope

575
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: you're able to survive this show.

576
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: I fear for you.

577
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: I don't know is that people.

578
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,240
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, I mean, here's the thing. I ordinarily,

579
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: if I hadn't been off for two weeks, I for

580
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: sure would have called out today because wow, not that

581
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,199
Speaker 2: I well, not that I can't do the show. I

582
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 2: can do it. But if you're watching my stupid face

583
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: dab kleenexes into my eyes or you know, blow my nose,

584
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,520
Speaker 2: it has to be terrible for the viewer. This is

585
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 2: a terrible show.

586
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: I mean, your worst's actually the worst. It's in a way,

587
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: as I always tell my kids when they try to

588
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: get me to do something on show days, I'm like, sorry, guys,

589
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: got an award winning show to go. Oh you know,

590
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:01,719
Speaker 1: can't do it.

591
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: You know they're there, listen, this is a terrible show.

592
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,439
Speaker 2: But I can't. I can't call out. I can't. I

593
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: have to just I gotta just mule through it. And

594
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: it's got to be what it's got to be.

595
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: Uh, Luke, let's go to let's go to bad here.

596
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 1: Both are good in rematches. Uh, both are really asked good.

597
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: Mikey is saying this is the Jordan flu Game equivalent.

598
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: I like to think this is knee injury and Ghanu

599
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: contract up in the air. I'm gonna come out and

600
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: wrestle gone. That's who this is today. It's a hero. Nonetheless,

601
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 1: Uh who wins this? And why? Look? DJ doesn't need

602
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: this Luke for his resume, but you have to believe

603
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: he very much wants it. You have to believe if

604
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: anybody can find a way to counteract the length, the power,

605
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: the size difference, the fact that Maurish he's better than

606
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: a lot of us realized, it is Demetrius Johnson. This

607
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: is what he does. He's thirty six. Yes, he said

608
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 1: he hasn't felt a drop off and speed. It's been more,

609
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, harder to recover. And you know, I played

610
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: my son up to twenty one in the driveway two

611
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: days ago, Luke, and I'm still barely walking, So I

612
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 1: can understand that. I feel like he gets this done.

613
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,479
Speaker 1: I feel like in his arc, in his story, this

614
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: would make sense to add this. You know, it's a

615
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: perfect DJ move achieve something that is crazy impressive, but

616
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: that probably people aren't going to really go nuts about

617
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: and rave about. And he doesn't care. He's a sportsman.

618
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: He's a competitor at the end of the day, and

619
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: he has a million ways to win a fight. But

620
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: even more than that, he's great at decoding what you

621
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: do well and taking it away from you. The only

622
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: question is how, Luke, how does he win this rematch?

623
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. I'm also a casual apparently and

624
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 1: not uneducated in the MMA craft, and certainly you are

625
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: the opposite of that. How does DJ or how will

626
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: he win this? If my hunches are correct.

627
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 2: I'm candidly I'm not so sure this is a tough one.

628
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: If you watch the first fight, Ice was able to

629
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: use lateral movement, maintain distance, shut down a lot of

630
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 2: clinch attempts. He got a basically a reversal from underneath

631
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 2: to get on top. He dropped him with an uppercut,

632
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 2: and then the knee obviously is the famous one, but

633
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: he dropped them with a nuppercut just before that. You know,

634
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: so like he's a bigger dude. This is a you know,

635
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: DJ's record of success at one twenty five is better

636
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: than it is at one thirty five for a very

637
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: good reason, Like it's he's much more suited for that.

638
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: Even if I can acknowledge at one thirty five he

639
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: can still do good things. I really believe that he's

640
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 2: got to get Moriich to come to him. If you

641
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 2: see him trying to chase down Mariish. Not that he

642
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 2: can't do that in spurts or in moments, but in general,

643
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: if Maurish is able to play keep away, it just

644
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 2: forces DJ into these like desperate waste to negotiate the distance,

645
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 2: or it puts him in these uncomfortable spots where you know,

646
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: he gets trapped in a slightly degres a narrow window

647
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: of a firefight, and that's why he just can't really

648
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: win that. Plus, the power punching with Marish is still

649
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: going to be significantly higher than it is with DJ,

650
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: so he's's gonna have to find a way to get

651
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 2: him to come to him. Easier said than done. I

652
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 2: think Marish might repeat here. I would love to be wrong,

653
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 2: I really would, and if anybody can do it, it's

654
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 2: Demetrius Johnson. But it's a tough one. This is a

655
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: tough matchup for him. Yeah.

656
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Indeed, rod teng was supposed to be on this undercard

657
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: in a multi match, but he had to withdraw for

658
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: failing to provide a sample for the organization's mandatory hydration test.

659
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: He was not allowed to weigh in and he was

660
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: replaced Luke, So that's off the card. Look, part of

661
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: this fight is trying to make that US first impression, which,

662
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, they tried on TNT last year. It

663
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: was it was some good and bad. There's a lot

664
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: of bad, you know, and just this is a best

665
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: way to get another good chance on a first impression

666
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: ahead of what Luke, I think Neville will be their

667
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: power move. They will make it or break it in

668
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: terms of really cracking the American mix marsh arts market

669
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: by what they do with that US debut, who they

670
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 1: can put on the card, how big they can make

671
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: that feel in comparison to what we already feel from

672
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: UFC Bell to our PFL and all that. But this

673
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: card outside a mighty mouse mariash too, educate me, am

674
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 1: I missing anything? I'm not seeing a I'm not seeing

675
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: a lot. I mean, did I need to be the

676
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 1: dumbed down American fan who watches Eddie Alvarez gett into

677
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: a brawl to feel like I'm there's more to tune

678
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: in here for Luke.

679
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're know a little bit, You're missing a little bit.

680
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: The rod tang Loss is big. He is, you know,

681
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: aside from being very good at what he does, he's

682
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: just fun as shit. So there's that. But the couple

683
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: things you're missing. Number one, Bushsha is on this card.

684
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: Marcus l made a heavyweight athletic like a fucking Puma

685
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 2: three and oh out of the check Matt team, and

686
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: he can do anything in jiu jitsu. He he beat

687
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: Hadro Gracie at Metamoras or excuse me, it was a draw,

688
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: and then in the rematch he got he got he

689
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 2: got worked by Hadra Gracie. But in general he has

690
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: multiple multiple world titles in both his weight class which

691
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 2: was the biggest one, and then obviously in open as well.

692
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: But he a guy who is just insanely talented on

693
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: the mat, and I want to be very clear about this,

694
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: in addition to being big, very very very athletic. So

695
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: he's on this card taking on Karrill gris Grishenko. I

696
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 2: suspect he's gonna run over this guy. We'll see. Also

697
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 2: on the card, Amir ali Akbari. Amir Amir ali Akbari

698
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: has an interesting guy as well. He wrestled for I

699
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 2: think Iran nationally and has had some you know, anti

700
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: doping failures, to be quite clear about it, fought and

701
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 2: rising for a while. Yeah, I know, well what are

702
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 2: you gonna say? But he has wins over Valentine Moldovski

703
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: and from Rizen. He has wins over a fair amount

704
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 2: of guys uh as well, and he hasn't won in

705
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 2: one yet. In fact, he's had two fights on one

706
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: and they haven't gone his way. But he is very athletic. Obviously,

707
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 2: he is very very talented. In general, be curious to

708
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: see if he can right the ship in this contest.

709
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 2: And then also again, I'm not gonna sit here and

710
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: pretend like I'm some muy Thai expert. But Liam Badco,

711
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: remember I got some guy tried to dead wrong me

712
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: and this was his fucking nickname. Liam Harrison bad Co

713
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: is gonna be taking on and I'm gonna fuck this

714
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: guy's name up. But I've seen the highlights on him.

715
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 2: He's obviously quite good. Nong Oh Guy Yang God Godo,

716
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm saying that wrong.

717
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,879
Speaker 1: I'm sure you were just making sounds. They sounds good

718
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: to me, but it just you know, it.

719
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 2: Was like, yeah, well, here you have. This is the

720
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 2: one bansamweight muy Thai championship, so it's their one for them,

721
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: it's their one thirty five obviously, So you're gonna have

722
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: two bantamweight title fights, right bantamweight, You're gonna have Marish

723
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: versus Johnson. That's their MMA title, and then you're gonna

724
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 2: have their muy Thai title here between nong Oh and

725
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 2: then Liam Badco. Harrison and Liam Echo is a fucking

726
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 2: savage dude, a complete savage. He's he can be hit,

727
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 2: so he's not as I've seen him fight many times

728
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 2: he's not as he's an offensive dynamo and he had

729
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: an amazing comeback recently as well. But he's fun because

730
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 2: he's got a little bit of like I want to

731
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: be clear about this, he's extremely offensively dynamic, but he's

732
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 2: got a little bit of that Mickey Ward in him

733
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: where he kind of gets hit and then you know,

734
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: kind of like finds a way through kind of scenario.

735
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: So pure action on that end. Losing losing rod Tang

736
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 2: is bad, but you're gonna get very very fun fights

737
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,919
Speaker 2: that are still up and down this card and again.

738
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 2: And Marcus Almeda Bushetsha, you could maybe make an argument

739
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 2: bc he might be the future UFC heavyweight champion.

740
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean, is he gonna Is he gonna come in

741
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: at heavyweight and do the type of Jesutes type things

742
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: we've never seen before? Is this? Is this like even better?

743
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: Nog What is this?

744
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 2: Luke so here even better? Here's the thing. It's like

745
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: those guys like the Nogaras, they were good at jiu jitsu,

746
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 2: but they weren't great at it. Rieso Ver Doom was

747
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: great at it, but even for Doom wasn't athletic like this,

748
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: This is a different level of athlete altogether. I mean,

749
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 2: I cannot if you've never seen him compete. He moves

750
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: like a goddamn panther or whatever you know, big cat

751
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: you want to use. At this point, now he's only

752
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 2: got three fights, and those three fights he just dusted

753
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: people off pretty easily. It's hard to say exactly how

754
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna look when he's in the third round and

755
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: he's tired and he's been hit. You know, like, how

756
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: does he answer that question? We have no clue. It's

757
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: still so early. But what I would say is, like

758
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: a guy like Haddri Gracie, he wasn't a huge success

759
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 2: in MMA, not because he wasn't good at pure jiu jitsu,

760
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: but because whatever he lacked in athleticism he was able

761
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: to make up for in like extraordinary jiu jitsu acumen.

762
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: I don't think Boushetia has got the same level of

763
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu acumen as Hydra Gracie, but he's got a

764
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 2: little bit less. However, he's got way more athleticism and

765
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: much better wrestling. And so when you take a guy

766
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,240
Speaker 2: like that, that actually I think is better suited for MMA,

767
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: even if I mean he must have. I think he's

768
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: got something like eleven world titles. B see, like something

769
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: fucking insane he's got. So we're talking about a guy

770
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: who is I think he's got the most amount of

771
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 2: world titles in the gee in jiu jitsu history as

772
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: a matter of fact. So we're talking about a guy

773
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 2: like that. Plus he's athletic, plus he can wrestle. I mean,

774
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: you know, we're not talking about a very ordinary guy here.

775
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:27,800
Speaker 2: He's a bit of a unicorn.

776
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 1: I'll give you credit. Not only are you gutting this out,

777
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: you gave us a legitimate one uh one sixty one

778
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: here first on Prime Preview and breakdown. I appreciate that, Luke.

779
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: I mean you may think this show sucks, and it does,

780
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: but we didn't get to watch Joan of Arc burn

781
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: at the stake, you know, and see piece by piece

782
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: as she's falling apart. Here we get to watch that

783
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: with you. I mean, it's like Jack Ruby walking by

784
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: the cameras, right, I'm watching a man die in front

785
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: of me, and I respect that, Luke.

786
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 2: So he has so let me just go through his

787
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu achievements here very quickly. This is from BJJA Heroes.

788
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: He won ADCC in both twenty thirteen and twenty seventeen.

789
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: He won the World Championships in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,

790
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and twenty nineteen.

791
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 2: He won the World Championships in Nogi, which is separate

792
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 2: from ABCC. This is all at the black belt level

793
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: in twenty ten and twenty eleven. He won the pan

794
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 2: ams at twenty twelve and by the way, all those

795
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 2: ones I mentioned for the IBJJF World Championships, so twenty twelve, thirteen, fourteen, sixteen, seventeen,

796
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 2: eighteen to nineteen, all except for I think eighteen, and

797
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: even then I think it's included. In all of those

798
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 2: years he won his division and the absolute, which meant

799
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 2: any weight class wide open. He won first place at

800
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: the uae JJF Abu Dhabi Pro in twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,

801
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, and then so on and so on.

802
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 2: You're talking about a guy who's gotten more medals than

803
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 2: almost anyone else to ever do it, and he can wrestle,

804
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: and he's athletic, and he's in a a week division

805
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 2: at heavy weight, could be interesting, could.

806
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: Be more medals than Pat Tillman, Luke.

807
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: To be fair, I mean, why don't you make more

808
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: Pat Tillman jokes? Every time you do that, the show

809
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: disappears for six months.

810
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of does. I was supporting an American

811
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: hero there. Let's move on to topic number two, Luke,

812
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 1: and that's hey, let's match make the welterweight division in

813
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 1: the UFC. After the fallout of All Things Leon Edwards

814
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: Kamara Usman Part two Luke, Dana White spoke after that

815
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: fight with reporters. I'm a junkie, aggregated the quotes here,

816
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 1: giving updates on the future of other big name welterweights.

817
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 1: Let's get through this and then we can sort of

818
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: map out the future. On Colby Covington, Dana said, Colby

819
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: wants to fight. Colby wants to fight. He's ready to fight,

820
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: and we're making plans for him here soon. It was

821
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 1: to fight Luke okay. On Jorge Mozvital, Yeah, I like it,

822
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: White said when asked about the idea of of Gilbert

823
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: Burns versus Jorge mas Bittol, He said, you like it,

824
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: I do, then I like it, and then he laughed. Okay,

825
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: thank you, Dana Luke. Let's break out the matchmaking machine

826
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: here for one hundred and seventy pounds in the sports

827
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, MMA leader. First off, we tease this earlier

828
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: in the week, but like I just want to ask you,

829
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: percentage wise one to one hundred, how confident are you

830
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: that the Usman Edwards trilogy is next for this division

831
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: and more importantly should be next?

832
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? I do. I do think it should be next.

833
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: I'm not one of these guys who's like a big

834
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: automatic rematch guy, but Kumaru does deserve it for two reasons. One,

835
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 2: his record of achievement is extraordinary. Right, We've been over

836
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 2: a million times on what he has done in this division,

837
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: and I think that when you to thrown a guy

838
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: like that, if they want the rematch in general, they

839
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: should get it. And then when you add in the

840
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: fact that he was winning that fight up until the

841
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: very literally last minute, I think it calls for it.

842
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: So I do think, and we've been over this a

843
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 2: little bit on Wednesday, that they should put this fight

844
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: in the UK, and I think that they will. But

845
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of an automatic rematch in this particular case.

846
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,399
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more because of the decorated pass. It's

847
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: why I still go to bat for DJ even if

848
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: he doesn't give a shit about he should have got

849
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 1: the trilogy with Shudo right then and there. Instead he

850
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: got traded whatever.

851
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 2: Who cares.

852
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: The whole point is this is the fight that's just right.

853
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: It's the right one to make. It is when do

854
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: you okay fluke or not a fluke which people are

855
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: sick of hearing about. It's unexpected. One guy was winning

856
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: by a lot until he wasn't. I think in those

857
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 1: situations when you're that decorated, and who was more decorated

858
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: than Usmann coming into this fight? Very few in the

859
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,400
Speaker 1: history of this damn sport to be very fair in

860
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: his sixth attempt at defending that title. All right, So

861
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: as we look at this top ten and beyond the

862
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: fights that are already on the books is of course

863
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: September tenth, Haamzat Chimaiev, who's ranked number three in the

864
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: division against Nate Diaz and the one we've talked about,

865
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,439
Speaker 1: Blam Muhammad at number five against number eight Sean Brady Luke.

866
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: There was some teasing that WonderBoy Thompson versus number eleven,

867
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: shof Catt rock Monoff was in the works. Wonder Boy

868
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: ranked number seven, But I don't know if you've seen

869
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 1: the news in the past twenty four hours. Wonder Boy said, nope,

870
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: I turned that fight down. It makes no sense for

871
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: me to fight another striker so quickly, or I'm sorry

872
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: to fight another wrestler like this. I want to fight

873
00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 1: a striker. I'm not mad at WonderBoy, by the way,

874
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: for that, Luke, you.

875
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have seen it, just because

876
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 2: I would have loved to have seen rock Monov feast.

877
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 2: But I very much understand wonder Boy's position.

878
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 1: Yes, I do, and he's at a point in his career.

879
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 2: Luke.

880
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: Look, he's out of the title picture, right, He's gonna

881
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: just try to make fun fights the rest of the way,

882
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: get momentum if you can. Hey, who knows we mentioned

883
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 1: who'smont should be next? I think if it wasn't, it

884
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: would be Chremaiah of Off of the DS fight. Nobody

885
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: can justify Mozmital in this case. You really couldn't. I mean,

886
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: it'd be an absurdity. But look, before we match make

887
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: the division, would you be upset if Colby Covington, who

888
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: is coming off a victory over Hojre Mosvidal pay per

889
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 1: view main event. If he got the next shot, would

890
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: that upset you at all?

891
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: The next title shot?

892
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: Yes, instead of Usman and we let Chamaia fight in

893
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: eight and then see what happens next with that.

894
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 2: I just don't know if you that would be absurd

895
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 2: to me.

896
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, you're disgusted at that idea you like, because

897
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: like that to me is Jorge you give me. I

898
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,959
Speaker 1: would be disgusted at Jorge getting the title shot right.

899
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 2: Here, Luke. Yeah, he's advocating for one. I don't I

900
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: don't think it's gonna work. Kobe's got a better claim

901
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 2: to it than Jorge does, I'll say that. But yes, yeah,

902
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,239
Speaker 2: either one of them I don't think would be the

903
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: right choice.

904
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: No, and they're yeah, they're not gonna wait on CHAMAI

905
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: if they can get another fight out of this. So

906
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: here's the deal, Luke, let's match make Usman rake number one.

907
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: As is the case with the UFC won a champ

908
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: defending champion loses Covington. I you got Gilbert Burns at four,

909
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,719
Speaker 1: which is an important name right now, despite coming off

910
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,480
Speaker 1: that loss, to JAMAIAV where he fought his soul out

911
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: Neil at six, Masvidol nine, lu K ten, Kisa twelve,

912
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: mag Knee at thirteen with number seven Thompson now available

913
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: on your board and number eleven shop caught rock monoff

914
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: outside of the title fight, Luke, what's the next best

915
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: fight to make here?

916
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:16,959
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I don't understand for who?

917
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 1: Well, what do you do with that two through six area?

918
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: That's my real question?

919
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: Team? I see, I see, Okay, let's figure this out,

920
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 2: all right, two to six, So we're assuming Edwards and

921
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 2: Usman are going to run it back, right, So then

922
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: you've got Colby and Jamaiah. But Jamaia's got Nate, so

923
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 2: he's kind of on ice for the moment. You got

924
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: Gilbert gonna run a back or not running back or

925
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: running with Jorge, so he's out.

926
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's not official, Luke, that's not official.

927
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 2: Hare so you could not official. But like I'm told,

928
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 2: it's everything, but they've signed the papers like there's or less.

929
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: Okay, I was unaware it was that far because I

930
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: don't want to limit the idea that Gilbert versus Colby

931
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: isn't the perfect kind of I'm.

932
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: I actually like that a little bit more than Gilbert

933
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: versus jorgey. But I think Gilbert versus Jorge is a

934
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: little bit more winnable for Gilbert if you're in that

935
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: scenario right, well, actually, let me ask you who would

936
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: you favor? Who would you favor between Gilbert and Colby?

937
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: Still Colby? Still Colby, but slightly slightly slightly.

938
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 2: See that's interesting. Plus, Colby's got this whole you know

939
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: thing with Jorge where he claimed you know, did he

940
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 2: claim like a traumatic brain injury from it?

941
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, there's a lot of weird shit going on there.

942
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: But I think Colby still got enough company leverage and

943
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 1: fuel and money in the bank with the company where No,

944
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: they're not going to give him the title shot next,

945
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: although I did float that possibility to you, But I

946
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 1: think that they'll be willing to work with him here. Look,

947
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Jorge, they did the Joge fights. It was

948
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: what it was. Are you do you? Are you offended

949
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: by that idea that I believe that I believe Colby

950
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: would edge Gilbert here? Are you offended by that?

951
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 2: Offended? No? No, I just don't think it's very I

952
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 2: think that's a winnable fight for Gilbert for sure, for.

953
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: Sure, for sure. I'm just telling you where my heart.

954
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: You know my heart will go on?

955
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: What about the idea? Do you think Colby accepts a

956
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 2: fight with Jeff Neil? Think?

957
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 1: No, hell no, no, doesn't take it. Nope, dude, Colby

958
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: is at a point. And look what's the criticism against

959
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: Colby right now? That although he fought for the title

960
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: twice and fought really well both times, and then you

961
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 1: know got that pay per view close up, he hasn't

962
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 1: beaten top rank guys in a while, Luke, I think

963
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: he's going to try to just leave himself in celebrity

964
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: mode right now. I mean, he has proven he can

965
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: main event multiple pay per views. You have to believe

966
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: he carries himself out a higher regard than anyone else.

967
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: Would you know, He's got to look at this as

968
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: I've got to get as much cash on the way

969
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: out as I can. Now. Eventually, inevitably you will have

970
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: to fight a hammer contender to keep your spot, but

971
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: that's more when you're coming off a loss. He is

972
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: coming off a win. I think he's in a very

973
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: advantageous spot here, Luke. But if Burns fights Masvidal, which

974
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 1: Dana just said, yeah, I like it. Then what's the

975
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: fight for Colby? What is it?

976
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: Luke Wonderful?

977
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't think Neil. I don't think Neil bro wonder

978
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: Boy as what a fight night main events, stay busy.

979
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: I mean it's it's a name.

980
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't suck it would it would? It would

981
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: match make Okay? It would be received well as a

982
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: main event, right, I mean it be.

983
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 2: Be like biggest troll versus biggest nice guy.

984
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, you know. That might be the

985
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 1: gift that wonder Boy's trying to get here, and he

986
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: would deserve it too. These guys deserve this ship. Luke, Okay,

987
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: what are you doing with Shavcott? Then if wonder Boy

988
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,439
Speaker 1: says no, what are you doing? Does the UFC even

989
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: try Colby?

990
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:47,479
Speaker 2: You could do Shavcott Neil or Shovcott Luka Okay, which

991
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: one of those do you like the most?

992
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Neil Shofcott Neil would be a good fight right now

993
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: because Neil has has Neil Neil has earned a big

994
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: fight and this is, you know, arguably the hardest of

995
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: those big fights order the title picture. But it also

996
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: would be a high reward. Do that'd be? How does

997
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: Jeff Neil crash this overall party. How about beating that

998
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: guy who looks untouchable.

999
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, you want some hyphe you know, beat beating

1000
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 2: Luke in his last fight. The way he did was

1001
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: pretty fucking incredible. You do that to shot cut Rockmanov

1002
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 2: and you know, buddy, you are You're gonna I mean

1003
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: talk about a rebound in his career. That would be

1004
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 2: huge for him, huge but also enormous risk because Rockmanov

1005
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 2: is a cyborg from the year twenty fifty sent back

1006
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:36,399
Speaker 2: in time to fuck everyone up. So there's that as well.

1007
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: To close on this topic, Luke and Well to add

1008
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 1: another closure on there, uh Sean Brady versus Blah mohammon

1009
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 1: might end with me get in a tattoo. It might

1010
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: tacos and tattoos, Luke and Philly, it might.

1011
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 2: It might end with that. I really hope that it

1012
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: does for me as well. I'm looking forward to it.

1013
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: Look, this could just be Mike Keck entertaining me and

1014
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: filling time on his show. Luke shout out to New

1015
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Hampshire's Mike Heck. But as you die there, Luke. He

1016
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:05,799
Speaker 1: created the scenario in which the Night of Nate versus Hamza. Hey,

1017
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: let's say Hamza catches COVID and then Tony gets bumped

1018
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: up for the Nate Tony pay per view main event,

1019
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: and then Diaz wins and they're both bloody and it's

1020
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 1: an absolute war, and Nate Diaz exits not only the

1021
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: UFC a hero, but he goes into a Jake Paul

1022
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: fight with the kind of momentum that matching him against

1023
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: Hamzad would never ever create. Right, I know that's like

1024
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: a romantic dream scenario there, do you.

1025
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, well, how romantic is it when

1026
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, one of these guys is gonna catch

1027
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 2: a communicable disease?

1028
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think Mike offered COVID. I just like,

1029
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: I mean, that made it. That made it more risky, right, Yeah.

1030
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: Girl's gonna be like, that's an oddly specific thing for

1031
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 2: him to have it, Like, yo, you go, Okay, here's

1032
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen. Motherfucker's gonna catch COVID and then the

1033
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 2: gates of heaven are going to open up. Yes, under

1034
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: the circumstances he's somehow out you could do that, I

1035
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: don't know. Yeah, yeah, I would like that better.

1036
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 1: And the Leach are on that card. They could break

1037
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: that shit up in a second. All right, look, let's

1038
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: go to topic three, and that is UFC fight announcement.

1039
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: It goes without saying, guys, since we just spent an

1040
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: hour on one that this is a light, very light

1041
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: combat weekend after arguably the busiest of all time on

1042
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: Saturday of last week. Let's go to number three fight announcements. Luke,

1043
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: good lord. We didn't talk about this when we were

1044
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: ranking our top five strikers on Wednesday show. This is

1045
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: related to that. I can't believe I missed this. UFC

1046
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 1: two seventy nine is going to offer us Kevin Holland

1047
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: versus d rod Daniel Rodriguez.

1048
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: No I saw that. I was like, dude, that's the

1049
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: BC's special right there.

1050
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: Give that shit to me. And it's an important fight,

1051
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 1: right like in terms of who's going in which direction

1052
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: coming out of this, someone's gonna get a boost from

1053
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 1: this fight. Look, this is gonna be a war, baby.

1054
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 2: I love that contest. I think it's I think it's

1055
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: winnable for for Daniel Rodriguez. A win over Kevin Holland

1056
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 2: would do dramatic things for his career it's gonna be

1057
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 2: all action. Wow, that one is impossible to dislike.

1058
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: In two seventy nine, Luke, two seventy nine is not loaded,

1059
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: not loaded at all, right.

1060
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: But there's a couple of gems on there, a couple

1061
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: of gems.

1062
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: This adds to that. So I'm happy to see that, Luke.

1063
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 1: Are we overlooking Kevin Holland's potential here at walter weight?

1064
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: Now that he can make this weight, given the wrestling,

1065
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: given his he takes big chances. I just wonder if

1066
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: we're overlooking I mean, like.

1067
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: As a title contender. I mean, beating Daniel Rodriguez wouldn't

1068
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: necessarily tell us that, but I think in general, after

1069
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: all we saw at one five from him, it only

1070
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,399
Speaker 2: makes sense that the guy fought Thiago Santos, you know, like,

1071
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 2: this is not the right and I realized that was

1072
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: not the right way class for Santos either. But I'm

1073
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: just sort of pointing out, like he one seventy, whatever

1074
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 2: else happens from here, this is the right place for him.

1075
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 2: I think you're gonna get, you know, this year or

1076
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 2: next or whenever it happens, whatever, the very best that

1077
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 2: Kevin Holland has to offer. It's gonna be one seventy.

1078
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 2: I really believe that. I think it one's seventy.

1079
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: I had reservations about what would he be able to

1080
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,240
Speaker 1: jump in and make this big of an instant impact,

1081
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 1: and so far looking looking pretty damn good, So I'm

1082
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: readjusting the calibration. Look the other fight announcement I wanted

1083
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: to get your reaction to. December third is the targeted date.

1084
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: I believe that's a UFC Orlando fight night would be

1085
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: the rumor Mark Jacasey versus Michael Johnson, you get down.

1086
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: With this.

1087
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: Interesting because Ksey was sort of a striker when he

1088
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: first came to UFC and has really turned into a

1089
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: wrestler of late, and Johnson is well rounded but obviously

1090
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: loves to mix it up on the feet. I wonder

1091
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 2: what might happen in that one. Could he lure g

1092
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 2: case back into a striking contest or is he gonna

1093
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: have to spend most of his time.

1094
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 1: He's gonna have to, He's gonna have to, Luke. Yeah,

1095
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: Casey has turned a corner. He's turned a corner, Luke.

1096
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: And also, Michael Johnson's takedown defence is the best part

1097
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,359
Speaker 2: of his game. I think it's a pretty fair way

1098
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 2: to put it. That's the fact that that that one

1099
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: could be that what could be boring. I'll be honest

1100
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 2: about it. It could be. But I'll say this, I'll say

1101
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 2: this way for each of those guys right now, very

1102
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 2: relevant challenge. I think that's the way I look look

1103
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 2: at it.

1104
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: Speaking of MJ, what do you categorically identify as the

1105
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 1: peak of coolness for Michael Jackson in your personal life

1106
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: before the child allegations, before the videos, watching him spend

1107
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: a million dollars on weird antiques with Martin Basher before

1108
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: the death Luke and a lot of the bad shit

1109
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: that went down. I mean, what do you think in

1110
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: your period watching the King of pop was his mountaintop

1111
00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 1: of coolness?

1112
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: Man? What was that video? See? In the eighties, he

1113
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 2: was popular in ways you could just never describe today.

1114
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 2: It wouldn't even make sense.

1115
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:58,839
Speaker 1: It doesn't know. Look, they erected statues of him while

1116
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: he was in his prime in various parts of Asia,

1117
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: where people would bow in front of the statue and

1118
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 1: wail in tears as if they were in Jerusalem. Luke

1119
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: on like the crying Wall. I mean, it's it's it's

1120
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: some of the most bizarre reaction to a human being

1121
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: we've ever seen in modern times.

1122
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: We live in a world of micro celebrities, where you know,

1123
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 2: I someone likes I like this Twitch streamer, or I

1124
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 2: listen to this podcast and they have a decent audience

1125
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 2: or whatever. But there's very few people that transcend culture

1126
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: in that way. I was, I was reading about this

1127
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 2: the other day. Did did you realize that the finale

1128
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: of Seinfeld had over seventy million live viewers? Damn seventy million?

1129
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: What is it? What is an NFL game? A big

1130
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,040
Speaker 1: NFL game? Like Brady versus the Patriots, Right, that's gonna

1131
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: get you like probably seven million nowadays.

1132
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 2: Right? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that gets you. That'll

1133
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 2: get you thirty forty I mean that'll get you a lot.

1134
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,280
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, perspective.

1135
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 2: Okay, oh yeah, that'll get you a lot, like like,

1136
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 2: for example, Brady versus Mahomes or something. That don't get

1137
00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 2: you thirty forty mil. But like, that's it, and we're

1138
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 2: talking that. That was the end of a nine season

1139
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 2: fucking sitcom, you know, but it was different.

1140
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: And pre streaming. Let's be honest, it was different pre streaming.

1141
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: I mean when when you know when they screwed Halkogan

1142
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: of the WWF title against Andre the Giant in that

1143
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 1: ww main event on a Friday night in nineteen eighty

1144
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: seven in Market Square Arena in Indianapolis. Luke, it did

1145
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 1: thirty three million live viewers with the twin referee double

1146
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: switch thing. There's only one NBA Finals game in the

1147
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 1: history of the NBA that's done more than that. It

1148
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: was Game seven, Uh, Steph Corey versus Lebron So Uh,

1149
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 1: it was a different time back then. I mean, thirty

1150
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,160
Speaker 1: three million people watched the wrestling match, Luke.

1151
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much. I knew that Michael Jackson

1152
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: was popular for the not for the first time, but

1153
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 2: like you in a world where there was just mono culture,

1154
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 2: you had the radio stations in your town and everyone

1155
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 2: watched the same things on TV. Do you remember there

1156
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 2: was a time where, like especially when he was doing

1157
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,359
Speaker 2: like the Pepsi commercials. Yeah, where like everywhere you looked

1158
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: you would see a Michael Jackson impersonator. They were doing

1159
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,120
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson jokes on the Tonight Show. There were a

1160
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson. Everyone had the glove and shit like that.

1161
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 2: Like everywhere I remember there was a point where it's

1162
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 2: like you couldn't there was nowhere you could go to

1163
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: get away from him.

1164
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: Corey Feldman tried to turn into him. Corey Feldon, who

1165
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: was already famous, was cos playing Michael Jackson on a

1166
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: full time basis. Luke, the worship was out of control

1167
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: for this man.

1168
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. He was popular in ways that no one alive

1169
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 2: today is. People are like, oh, Joe Rogan's popular, and

1170
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: which he is. He's obviously very popular. Joe Rogan is

1171
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: in terms of like the peak of Michael Jackson as

1172
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: a pimple on the ass, like it's not even cool.

1173
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like bo Jackson in the late eighties, which

1174
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 1: was something that was a phenomenon. Mike Tyson in nineteen

1175
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,800
Speaker 1: eighty eight, right, yeah.

1176
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 2: Mike, Like Mike Tyson was like, dude, Mike Tyson was

1177
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 2: the Boogeyman you know of the nineteen eighties and parts

1178
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 2: of the nineties. That's who he was.

1179
00:56:58,000 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, especially when he had the public marriage thing

1180
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: with Barbara Walters, like that interview, like it was like

1181
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: musty TV. I remember like a crowd of people watching

1182
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 1: it around the TV, and like, you know, picking apart

1183
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: how he's drugged down any a lot to get into there.

1184
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: I think the answer to your question, you could say

1185
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: anything regarded to around the launch of the Thriller album

1186
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 1: in eighty four. In fact, remember when he did the

1187
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: moonwalk at the at the Award show and it looked

1188
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: like he was Yeah, it looked like he was doing magic. Basically,

1189
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: he's never been cooler than that. But you have to

1190
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: ask yourself as when did it turn. I think it

1191
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: might be the Dangerous album in ninety one with do

1192
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: you remember the Black or White video actually started with

1193
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: eight minutes of him grabbing his crotch in an aality

1194
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 1: like punching out windows in a car, and it was

1195
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: really weird. He touched his dog like eight and eight

1196
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: or nine hundred times and like seven right, yeah, and

1197
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: they it was in such bad taste that it was

1198
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: pulled from TV. I really think like he was throwing

1199
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: straight no hitters, except for lighting his hair on fire

1200
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 1: in the Pepsi commercial before that. Luke he would That

1201
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: really was like the last time he was cool as shit, right,

1202
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: Like the Jam video with Michael Jordan. That may have

1203
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: been the mountaintop.

1204
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 2: That was big. Also, like if you if you weren't

1205
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 2: around at the time, the beat It video was like

1206
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 2: when the guys had the two when they were knife

1207
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: fighting and they had like their wrists tied together and

1208
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: they were like, I mean, dude, Billy Jean.

1209
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: Video with the yeah shit ever, dude, the Thriller video was.

1210
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a music video that was like

1211
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: twenty minutes long.

1212
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,560
Speaker 2: Dude. It was like a place which at the time

1213
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 2: was completely unheard of.

1214
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: It was like a movie. I mean, it's ridiculous. Anyway,

1215
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: Luke that December third card, in which the other MJ

1216
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: will be fighting on two other matchups of no Emily

1217
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 1: Ducatti in her second UFC appearance against Angela Hill, who's

1218
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 1: fresh off of a much needed split decision win.

1219
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding. By the way, I love this fight Ducatti.

1220
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 2: I've been following her for a long time. Yeah, she's

1221
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 2: a fucking beast. Her UFC debut against Jessica Penny. By

1222
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: the way, Penny and Hill are best friends, so she's

1223
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 2: going through everyone's friends on the same side here, it

1224
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 2: looks like, but it's a tough fight. Hill is much

1225
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: more active and a bit of a mover in ways

1226
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: that Penny was not. Uh So that's gonna be interesting

1227
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 2: for to see how she navigates that. On the other hand,

1228
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: du COTTI is a fucking sledgehammer, So.

1229
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: She's really technically strong and she believes in her boxing.

1230
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: I really like what she could be. She's got to

1231
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,440
Speaker 1: finish people, though, Luke, on on this level to make

1232
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: a real impact. But we'll see Clay Guida, Scott Holtzman

1233
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: also on that card. I know you're gonna see. Yeah,

1234
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna like that a lot, Luke. Uh, let's go

1235
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: to topic four quickly. Here it's this weekend in boxing,

1236
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: Mikey writing down Netflix making a reality series about Tyson

1237
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 1: Fury and his family. Luke, you got any interest in that?

1238
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 2: Zero?

1239
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: Really?

1240
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 2: I think less than zero?

1241
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: No, No, dude, I think you're missing this. Look Tyson,

1242
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: the Gypsy Travelers, the Fury Fail, I mean they're wild.

1243
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 2: I've seen all that shit before. I'm not dude.

1244
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: His his dad, John, Big John. He's you can't turn

1245
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: away from him when he has a microphone. Luke, I

1246
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: think this may be this may be like this, This

1247
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: has Ozzy Osbourne potentially. Remember when that they launched that ship, Dude,

1248
00:59:59,560 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: that was like.

1249
00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 2: A that show train wreck it was.

1250
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: But dude, do you remember how like grandmothers who never

1251
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: would have listened to metal music were like into that show, like, oh,

1252
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: he's so cute. Like he he became like George Foreman

1253
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: in the nineties, Luke, he was like everybody's dad suddenly.

1254
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 2: Yes, speaking of George, he's been accused of rape.

1255
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go, let's transition. It has been by

1256
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 1: the way back in the nineteen seventies with underage girls.

1257
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: Uh, several women, by the way, It's not just one.

1258
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is not not good, but we'll see what

1259
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 1: happens with that, Luke. Also, this weekend in the box

1260
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: ESPN Top Rank has a card, Luke, both guys had

1261
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: big time losses to elites in this lightweight division. But

1262
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 1: how about Jose Padrazza versus Richard Komy this weekend? Uh,

1263
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: you know Comy's only big losses of late where to

1264
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: Lomachenko and Tayo Fimo. We know Padraza pushed Lomachenko, gave

1265
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 1: him a very good fight, even though those scores were wide.

1266
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 1: You know, there's still some business to be done here

1267
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 1: at lightweight. If you got a name, Luke, do you

1268
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: care about this fight at all?

1269
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: A little bit? A little bit? You know the thing is.

1270
01:01:04,760 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 2: I here's what my question for you is. I think

1271
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 2: it'll be good. I definitely think it'll be fun. If

1272
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 2: you're looking for a fun fight, I don't have any concerns.

1273
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: I guess what I would say is what's really left

1274
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: of Komi? I don't really I don't have a clear

1275
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 2: sense of that at this point.

1276
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: Well, we're gonna find out. He can punch, he's aggressive.

1277
01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: We've certainly seen his ceiling against the very elite boxers,

1278
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: you know, and Teo Femo not only out to Taylor

1279
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: film got him the hell out of there. That was

1280
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: in a shocking way. I mean, for people, forget we

1281
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,800
Speaker 1: had doubts about Tayo Femo entering that fight because of

1282
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 1: that stinker he had against the Japanese fellow Luke, and

1283
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: he he turned that around in a hurry. Petraji, you know,

1284
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: makes fun fights at this age. Man, he's so skilled,

1285
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 1: but he pushes the pace and he gets in there.

1286
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: The winner gets a big fight against a big name.

1287
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: You know how this game works. Big Baby Jared Anderson,

1288
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 1: not Big Baby, the other the drug user, that guy

1289
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: Luke who's also come backing at close to three hundred pounds.

1290
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: Big Baby Jared Anderson will be in the co main event. Look, Luke,

1291
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: he's a minus twenty thousand favorite. Is that accurate? It

1292
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 1: could be twenty million. He might be somebody to watch. Look,

1293
01:02:14,360 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, right, we're spoiled right now with Wilder, Joshua,

1294
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: fury uh Sik and others. Luke, but you gotta worry

1295
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: about who's coming next, and there isn't a ton of

1296
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: there's there's a ton of overly impressive young heavyweights. I

1297
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: wonder if Big Baby can be that. Also on this

1298
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: card Richard Torres Junior, who didn't he lose the gold

1299
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: medal match for the US against Jallaalov, who was on

1300
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: Showbox recently. He's gonna get pushed by top Rank. You know,

1301
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't know yet what's under the tank there. But

1302
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 1: he's also a minus twenty million favorite in his fight

1303
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: fa at Jogball. Also on that card, Luke, are you

1304
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: gonna be tuned into.

1305
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: Josh People's lights out?

1306
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: Although yes he can. Yeah, he's had some issues of

1307
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 1: Lady switched from PBC to Top Brank. We'll see if

1308
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: he can turn things around. He hasn't been over impressive.

1309
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: But Luke, do you care about his own back this weekend.

1310
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: Ks I facing speaking of.

1311
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: George, like two guys who are like arcade video arcade attendance.

1312
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: Here's he's facing off here against both of them. I mean,

1313
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure one is driving the uber, Luke, and one

1314
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: is like the catering manager of the of the event.

1315
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: But I don't even know. I have not done my

1316
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: responsible due diligence to find out who these guys actually are.

1317
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 2: Luke.

1318
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: Will you actually watch it?

1319
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: Though? No, I couldn't imagine spending five seconds watching.

1320
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm not saying you need to look. I'm not defending

1321
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:39,080
Speaker 1: it at all. I mean this is this is gonna

1322
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: be interesting.

1323
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 2: I didn't want to earth would be the appeal unless

1324
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 2: you already knew who ks I was and you care.

1325
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 2: I mean, like I know who he is, but I

1326
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 2: don't care about him, Like I don't care whether he

1327
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 2: lives or dies.

1328
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,240
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I mean I don't. I don't hate him, Luke.

1329
01:03:54,320 --> 01:03:56,400
Speaker 1: I've actually interviewed him. It seems like a decent guy

1330
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: interviewing pressure.

1331
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's a nice guy. But I'm just saying,

1332
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 2: if you're not into that stuff and not on, what

1333
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 2: would be the appeal. It's like you're gonna watch atrocious boxing, Like.

1334
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: You know, I would almost want I would want him

1335
01:04:10,280 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: to have to fight both, like in the same fight,

1336
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: not one against two, but like alternating rounds or so.

1337
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:15,720
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1338
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't care at all, Luke, Saturday, do you care?

1339
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,680
Speaker 1: Bare Knuckle Fighting Championship back off of this London pay

1340
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: per view with MVP and Mike Perry has a card

1341
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 1: in Albuquerque and look at the main event. I'll say this,

1342
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 1: I don't love BKFC, but they do catch me sometimes.

1343
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: Christine Ferreira, who won the vacant women's Flyway title from

1344
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: britten Hart Beltran in their last fight, which was the

1345
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,479
Speaker 1: rematch between the two of them. She's fighting Taylor Starling. Luke,

1346
01:04:41,520 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: are you aware of who Taylor Starling is? She is

1347
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: one of the rising figures in that division, which has

1348
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: such a mix of like x UFC people and people

1349
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: that look like they're ready to be in reality shows. Luke,

1350
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: this is a pro wrestling drive ins, diners and dives

1351
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:58,479
Speaker 1: type of event.

1352
01:04:58,560 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 2: Here.

1353
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: Taylor Starling, who was criticized heavily about how much she

1354
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: does on OnlyFans, but says she needs to do it

1355
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: in order to train full time. She's coming on. Do

1356
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: you see John Jones posted a picture whether her, Luke,

1357
01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: you have no, you have no knowledge or care of

1358
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: this at all.

1359
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 2: Right, that's correct, Yes.

1360
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 1: All right, we'll keep that going. Uh uh, this is this.

1361
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,240
Speaker 1: This is so grimy that I can't not watch it.

1362
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, John Dotson and the co Maine. Luke

1363
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 1: is going to take on Ryan Benoit Ryan ben.

1364
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 2: That's actually pretty good. Here's the thing about Dotson. He's

1365
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 2: not what he used to be, but he can fucking thump.

1366
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 2: I'll tell you that much. He can fucking thump.

1367
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:39,240
Speaker 1: Uh Luke. In the opener on this card, strawweight Cassie

1368
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: rob is back against Jamie Henshaw. Do you know who

1369
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: Cassie Rob is?

1370
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:46,040
Speaker 2: Luke? You know, I don't know. Why are you asking me?

1371
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,080
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you. She's nicknamed the Hulk. She's two

1372
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: and eleven as a professional mixed martial artist. But in

1373
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: her pro debut she fought Laura Sanko.

1374
01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: Luke Senko beat her ass right.

1375
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,960
Speaker 1: And Adam Victa FC four and twenty thirteen Sanka rear

1376
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: naked choke round two.

1377
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, beat the fuck out of her. I've seen that fight.

1378
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought it was historically relevant. You're like, I don't,

1379
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to do this anymore.

1380
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 2: BC.

1381
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: I hate you. Okay, there you go.

1382
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,960
Speaker 2: No, no, BCBC, I love you. I love you. Bro.

1383
01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 2: I'm just I just have ebola leaking out of my eyes.

1384
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a true fact.

1385
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 4: All right.

1386
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: We've only got a couple of them here. Maybe I've

1387
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: done great in Luke's absence, but we do give you

1388
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,520
Speaker 1: the opportunity to email us every week Morning Combat at

1389
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Send in your artwork on Wednesdays, but

1390
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,720
Speaker 1: on Fridays you get to point the barrel back at us.

1391
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: It's something that we call dead wrong. Yeah, but you

1392
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: better have receipts, bitch, Yes, yes, all right, Luke. This

1393
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: is from a few of them here, one of them

1394
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: from down Under. At two hours and twenty two seconds

1395
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: of Monday Show BC Talks during have you seen this

1396
01:06:57,400 --> 01:07:00,880
Speaker 1: shit about the NFL and the Denver Bronco's fan who

1397
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: did the war cry and then threw up, then proceeds

1398
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 1: to show an Australian NRL clip of the Brisbane Broncos

1399
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: versus the Melbourne Strom. HEYBC, it was a rugby league match. Yeah,

1400
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 1: I told you. In mid form there that I did

1401
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 1: wrong myself. I didn't know what that was. I guess

1402
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 1: I thought it was college football. But it's rugby. I

1403
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: guess that maybe it makes more sense, Luke, it's Australian.

1404
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 1: People will stand up shirtless and let out a war

1405
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: cry and then throw up, right, it's normal.

1406
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: I didn't see that clip, but I'll just say this.

1407
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 2: A lot of people are casual NFL fans of a

1408
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 2: lot of different types of people, like middle class, rich, poor, white, black, whatever.

1409
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 2: But if you're like a hardcore NFL team fan, it's

1410
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: a guarantee you're an absentee father.

1411
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: Or by hardcore you mean tattoo of the team on you? Automatic?

1412
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: Right?

1413
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 1: Automatic?

1414
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, if you've got a tattoo of the team

1415
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 2: on you, like child services have threatened to take away

1416
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 2: your kids? Oh wow, you've given you one of your

1417
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 2: partners at STD knowingly.

1418
01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: Well, okay, what about face paint at a Raiders game?

1419
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:09,959
Speaker 1: What level of person are you at that point?

1420
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 2: Look, definitely had your car repossessed for like no good

1421
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 2: reason other than you were too lazy to pay the bill.

1422
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, here we go. All right, we got another

1423
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 1: dead wrong for you. This one's from Edgar during episode

1424
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: three thirty eight. When answering a question about which current

1425
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: champion in the UFC would be most likely to move

1426
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:34,559
Speaker 1: up and win another title, BC answered John Jones, except

1427
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 1: John Jones hasn't been a champion since August fifteenth, twenty twenty.

1428
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: I can't diagnose BC's mental deterioration, but I recommend consulting

1429
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: leading health experts such as Tim Ferriss and Michael Gervais.

1430
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: Shut out to ag one Edgar, that was that was brilliant.

1431
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: I didn't realize in the moment that you're right, He's

1432
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,719
Speaker 1: not a current champion at the moment, So shut up, BC,

1433
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: I did. That's dead wrong. Have your say that how

1434
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: the show works. Hey, wow, Luke, you were going for

1435
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 1: like a month and I only got two dead wrongs.

1436
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad, Luke.

1437
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 2: I'm proud of you, my friend.

1438
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,840
Speaker 1: All Right, we closed this show on this non news

1439
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: heavy combat weekend with what a filler segment produced by

1440
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: your boy BC. Right here, Luke, here's what we're gonna do.

1441
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 1: We've done this before. I'm gonna read a sentence, but

1442
01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:23,479
Speaker 1: one of the words are gonna be missing, almost like

1443
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: mma mad libs. It's up to you, Luke, to fill

1444
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:27,839
Speaker 1: in the blank.

1445
01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 2: Okay, now let me ask a question. Is this trivia

1446
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:34,559
Speaker 2: or is it like? What is this?

1447
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: These are questions, provocative statements, potential takes, and you would

1448
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: need to fill in based on your opinion what the

1449
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: missing answer is. But I try to stop you here

1450
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:47,919
Speaker 1: and say I'm looking for one answer, not the Luke Thomas.

1451
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: Let me read up and down Wikipedia and give you

1452
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: seventeen and so I cover all my basis. I'm really

1453
01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,840
Speaker 1: looking for one answer. Here we go number one, Luke,

1454
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: If Amanda Nunas were to retire tomorrow, the UFC's best

1455
01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:03,320
Speaker 1: option regarding what to do with the vacant featherweight title

1456
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,839
Speaker 1: would be blank.

1457
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 2: Man in noon is we're to retire tomorrow, the UFC's

1458
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: best option regarding what to do with the vacant featherweight

1459
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 2: title is to throw it in the garbage.

1460
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, you're not not wait for Kyla Harrison to

1461
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,920
Speaker 1: come win it or win women's heavyweight or whatever.

1462
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,720
Speaker 2: You could do that, and I would be happy to

1463
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 2: do to see Kayla get an opportunity like that. But

1464
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 2: the big fight is Kayla versus Amanda. You're talking about

1465
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 2: a world war AMANDAG just says, fucking them out. Yeah,

1466
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,960
Speaker 2: what do you have left after that? You're gonna just

1467
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 2: build it around Kayla. I guess you could do that.

1468
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,600
Speaker 2: I just don't believe that UFC is gonna do that.

1469
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: So they're just gonna punt that, you know, the fucking

1470
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: belt right into the right into the trash and pivot.

1471
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:51,880
Speaker 1: True. In true UFC fashion, they probably just wait a year,

1472
01:10:52,160 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: then stripper and then just leave a vacant and not

1473
01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 1: talk about it. I mean, look, we do know that

1474
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,800
Speaker 1: if you go to ufc dot com slash rankings, the

1475
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: women's featherweight division has never had a top ten on

1476
01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: that website. They populate every other division updated weekly. They

1477
01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 1: have not once presented us with a list of who's

1478
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,280
Speaker 1: in that division, how they should be, orged or any

1479
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,720
Speaker 1: of that. So maybe you're right, Luke fill in the

1480
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 1: blank's number two. The one food or drink with the

1481
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,920
Speaker 1: best shot at giving you instant diarrhea that you avoid

1482
01:11:23,960 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 1: like the plague in public is blank.

1483
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,280
Speaker 2: This is this is easy easy. Well, you know what,

1484
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 2: when I drink a lot, I'd have diarrhea all the time.

1485
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: Who doesn't you know the old beer shits we you

1486
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: don't have the nineties staple.

1487
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,400
Speaker 2: Luke, I would have to be on it. I would

1488
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 2: drink constantly, and you you know, there's like I would

1489
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:45,360
Speaker 2: have to have pepto Bismo on the at all times,

1490
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,640
Speaker 2: and now I don't need pepto bismo at all. So

1491
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,120
Speaker 2: the answer is basically alcohol. But if we're gonna say

1492
01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 2: food boy, this one's easy. Uh Taco Bell, I mean, oh.

1493
01:11:57,439 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes. That's why Taco Bell remains the king of

1494
01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: fast food. Why because it doesn't make you. It's the

1495
01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 1: only one that doesn't make you feel like shit after

1496
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: during the next day, the next week. In fact, it

1497
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 1: cleanses you, Luke. It shoots all that shit.

1498
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,439
Speaker 2: Out of there. Yeah, dude, Taco Bell. You know, I

1499
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,000
Speaker 2: used to my number ones were like, I get a

1500
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 2: soft taco. They don't even make him any more than

1501
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 2: to Taco Bell. So long, but like a double decker taco.

1502
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 2: Those were my favorites. And then maybe like a seven

1503
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 2: layer of burrito. Oh buddy, whatever.

1504
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: If anyone ever asked me what was prime Luke forget MJ,

1505
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 1: what's prime Luke's moment in your relationship BC, It's when

1506
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: you were in Vegas together and you text me, Hey,

1507
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: just go back because Vegas has that Taco Bell cantino

1508
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: with the alcohol. Just got back from the Taco Bell Cantina.

1509
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: Spent seventy nine dollars. You know we'll probably eat you know,

1510
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 1: a dollar fifty of it. I mean that was prime,

1511
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: Luke Thomas, you.

1512
01:12:52,840 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: Know, yes, yes, Taco Bell is for sure. Like, oh,

1513
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm a little stopped up, yo yo, go have a

1514
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:02,480
Speaker 2: bean burrito that is solved, lickety split.

1515
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 1: Damn right for me, Luke, it's apple juice. Can't can't

1516
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,479
Speaker 1: do it. I can't do it, Luke, I'm gonna get juice,

1517
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 1: apple juice if I took if I drank a glass.

1518
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 2: Or are you my daughter?

1519
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 1: I think so, Luke, I'm sorry. All right, It gets

1520
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:18,360
Speaker 1: gets gets ah. It turns into warfare after that number three, Luke,

1521
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: imagine you could switch bodies with one professional boxer for

1522
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: twenty four hours and turn DM requests into conquests without hesitation.

1523
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:33,760
Speaker 2: You would pick Anthony Joshua. Anthony josh Anthony Joshua is

1524
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,600
Speaker 2: built like a fucking I mean it's funny that, like

1525
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: people don't understand this, Like you can be real athletic

1526
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 2: and have a nice physique, but the guys who win,

1527
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: like the big bodybuilding contest, Ronnie Coleman being the famous,

1528
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:47,719
Speaker 2: most famous among them. But like others like Jay Cutler

1529
01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 2: and stuff or even Schwarzenegger, like from our generation, they

1530
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 2: have a certain aesthetic quality to it, right, like Wilder

1531
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,400
Speaker 2: is bricked or you know, muscular as well, or you know,

1532
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,800
Speaker 2: pick somebody. There's a lot of guys that are pretty

1533
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: much but aj oh to his d MS must just

1534
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:06,920
Speaker 2: be you know, I can only imagine. I can only

1535
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:10,439
Speaker 2: imagine the kind of you know, let's put that way

1536
01:14:10,439 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 2: that he's fielding. It must be amazing.

1537
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: Okay, knee jerk, I'm going with Ryan Garcia, but he

1538
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: does attract a younger crowd. Maybe I'm an old bitch

1539
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: and I need to translate that and take it off.

1540
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,960
Speaker 1: Canalo would not be a bad answer, you know, maybe

1541
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 1: even Tyson Fury wouldn't. But uh aj does have to

1542
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: be Okay, all right, damn you hate Tyson Fury. I'm

1543
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: finding out.

1544
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:34,880
Speaker 2: No I like Tyson Fury. Well, I mean he hates

1545
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 2: the immigrants, but I mean as a boxer, I think

1546
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: the world of him.

1547
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,559
Speaker 1: But I mean, whatever category you are, he has one

1548
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:43,679
Speaker 1: hundred percent said something offensive about you at some point, there's.

1549
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 2: No question about it, you know. Yeah, Yeah, that's probably fair.

1550
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: I mean, he used to be known for that, and

1551
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 1: he's kind of cleaned that up in the He's He's

1552
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: he's used his comeback to rework his image in many ways.

1553
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, Number four, if Charlie Olive's decapitated Islam

1554
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: Mahachev and and Habib came out of retirement to avenge

1555
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 1: his brethren, blank is the number that odds makers would

1556
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: assigned to Nirmaga Medoff as the opening line.

1557
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: Minus two hundred.

1558
01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: Wow, instantly the favorite.

1559
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:21,639
Speaker 2: Instantly, Luke, well again to open the line. Yeah, okay, okay, yeah,

1560
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 2: I think you're talking about the greatest lightweight of all

1561
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: time who said he would never come back. Now he's

1562
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,840
Speaker 2: going to be back. What line do you open with?

1563
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: To induce spending and also kind of tell the truth

1564
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 2: about how you might see the matchup. I think most

1565
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,280
Speaker 2: odds makers would favor Habib, whether they should or they shouldn't,

1566
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,680
Speaker 2: they probably would, and they probably would juice it a

1567
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 2: little bit to get some money down on it. Yeah,

1568
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 2: for sure.

1569
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 1: In this fake scenario, his like values and integrity is

1570
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: so firm that that we we never think it will

1571
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,559
Speaker 1: happen or could happen, that he can come back. But

1572
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 1: in this fake scenario, if he came back to avenge

1573
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: his fallen brethren who got like head kicked in the

1574
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: first minute, Luke, he'd be on like the warperd. He

1575
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:04,080
Speaker 1: would come in there and uh yeah, yeah, he's like

1576
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: a superhero at this point. Wollw Luke. Let's see if

1577
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,800
Speaker 1: you can get through this. Here we go. Number five, Luke,

1578
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: if your wife was nine months pregnant in a broken elevator,

1579
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,800
Speaker 1: blank would be the male Malca employee you would most

1580
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 1: trust to deliver the baby.

1581
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, these fucking zeros are going to deliver my child.

1582
01:16:26,160 --> 01:16:28,559
Speaker 1: Well more than just delivering the child. Look, they're gonna

1583
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: go where no man but you has gone before, you know, I.

1584
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 2: Mean, we can't even rely on them for consistent audio.

1585
01:16:34,520 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: Good lord, h.

1586
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 1: A lot of people wait on here.

1587
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm teasing. I'm teasing a.

1588
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: Lot of people waiting with their reputation and the balance

1589
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,240
Speaker 1: to see if you call their name right now, Luke,

1590
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 1: it's like the draft. Right, we're looking at the green.

1591
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:53,719
Speaker 2: You know who has surged up the Mulka power rankings.

1592
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,679
Speaker 2: This is not my answer. But I do I have

1593
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 2: to say this, I really do. Do you know who

1594
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: has I mean, this person was a complete not even

1595
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 2: on the fucking list, and now like top five, maybe

1596
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 2: even top three. You know who has made a huge

1597
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 2: change Ashley.

1598
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 1: Ashley, Oh wow, wow, as he's.

1599
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 2: Gotten a lot better, a lot better. My kid got

1600
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,040
Speaker 2: real sick. When my kid got real sick, she was

1601
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:21,920
Speaker 2: the only one who reached out and asked and stuff

1602
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:22,240
Speaker 2: like that.

1603
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 1: Like it's probably because she gave us all COVID that

1604
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:25,240
Speaker 1: time she felt bad.

1605
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,839
Speaker 2: She did, she did, she was, She's a walking super spreader.

1606
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 2: But in general, I would say Ashley, but the answer

1607
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: would be I mean, well, it definitely wouldn't be Phil.

1608
01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 1: Phil, Yeah, filthy Phil gave help give Bert that was great.

1609
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, Tristan would just you know, oh god, I

1610
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:44,040
Speaker 2: don't know.

1611
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: He'd get a tatto with the baby on his arm

1612
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 1: next to that wolf.

1613
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: Dude. He and you'd probably just be covered in blood

1614
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 2: for no reason. I mean, look, James, but I know

1615
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 2: that I have my answer. I have my answer. And

1616
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 2: by the way, it's not Pennington. James, who would try

1617
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: to write a fucking song in the middle of them.

1618
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 1: Might be Jake, Dude, it might be Jake is Cory's ear.

1619
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 2: It's Corey Corey. Wow, Corey is the guy. Cory is

1620
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 2: the guy, like you know, all right, He's the one

1621
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:16,799
Speaker 2: who's centered.

1622
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Wow, jumping in saying I

1623
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 1: don't even know you're working today. That's great.

1624
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, Corey is also a zero as well. I want

1625
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,320
Speaker 2: him to know that as I talk on the air,

1626
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:27,679
Speaker 2: but he's less of a zero.

1627
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 1: All right, Wow, okay, Gaff, you can deliver any further

1628
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,000
Speaker 1: offspring I have as well. Okay, even though I had.

1629
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 2: That gas on that list, gas on that lists on.

1630
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 1: My libido, and yeah, all right, let's keep it going here.

1631
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,560
Speaker 1: Number six, Luke, on this fill in the blank, I

1632
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: don't know if the segment will ever come back. It's

1633
01:18:43,160 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 1: up to the people here. With the exception of Tuki,

1634
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 1: your wife, or anything to do with Latin American culture,

1635
01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:52,800
Speaker 1: the category you have most in common with a buela

1636
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: right now is blank.

1637
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 2: I don't understand the question when you.

1638
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: Talk to aboila on the regular, outside of talking to

1639
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: her about Tuki or your wife or or like you know,

1640
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: things to do directly with Latin American culture, what do

1641
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: you guys talk about what's.

1642
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,759
Speaker 2: Your connect think we sit around and talk about Latin

1643
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 2: American culture, Like I don't even understand what that means.

1644
01:19:18,479 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: You could say, oh, we always talk about the damn

1645
01:19:21,400 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: Bruno movie, or we always talk about this food that

1646
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,280
Speaker 1: we love so much. I mean, Luke, what the hell

1647
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:27,840
Speaker 1: do you and that lady talk about? That's what the

1648
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: people want to know.

1649
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 2: Well, the reality is I mean, you say it's distinct,

1650
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 2: but it's just a big part of my life. A

1651
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 2: Bueila and I have a very similar taste in food. Oh,

1652
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,200
Speaker 2: not just Latin American, not just Latin American, like all kinds.

1653
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:48,200
Speaker 2: We like to eat at the same places. We like

1654
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 2: the same kinds of foods. So I can usually if

1655
01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 2: she's with us, I can usually rely on her like, hey,

1656
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:54,880
Speaker 2: let's take a vote, because you can.

1657
01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:57,639
Speaker 1: Use that influence to win the debate, to win the vote.

1658
01:19:57,640 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 1: That's that's Trump level genius, Luke.

1659
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so that usually. Uh, I can play a

1660
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:03,879
Speaker 2: Trump card with that, a little.

1661
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: Bit literally a Trump card like that. Yeah, nice work

1662
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: right there. All right, boy, does she like it spicy?

1663
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 2: Luke? Uh? Some stuff, not not like I like it,

1664
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: but some stuff. All this is not spicy at all.

1665
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: It's not.

1666
01:20:19,160 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: Just the women. Yes, got it all right? Number seven, Luke,

1667
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 1: Outside of BC reinventing the Risen debacle on a much

1668
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: larger scale, blank, is the most likely reason that m

1669
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: K would come to a sudden end over the next

1670
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: two years.

1671
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 2: Well, one of us is surely going to die in

1672
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 2: early death, right, I mean.

1673
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: That's so it's a it's an acceptable answer, Luke.

1674
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 2: I mean, look at me. I have to get a

1675
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:50,040
Speaker 2: colonoscopy in two weeks. Oh boy, dude, have you had

1676
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 2: one yet?

1677
01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: No, my wife didn't. I can't, I don't, I can't,

1678
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: I can't and I don't.

1679
01:20:55,240 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 2: Would you speaking every year? Man?

1680
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: One every year? Yeah, dude, I'm still negotiating with my

1681
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,400
Speaker 1: doctor whether I'll ever get another prostate check.

1682
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:10,599
Speaker 2: Luke. Well, I'm told that like after you turn forty,

1683
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 2: as like a medical screening, is supposed to get one

1684
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 2: every year. So I have to go and get mine

1685
01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,439
Speaker 2: checked in a couple of couple of weeks. I mean,

1686
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 2: there's no way, like even if it's not even for

1687
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 2: the health issues, like one of us is going to

1688
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 2: get hit by a bus, yeah, you know, fall fall

1689
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,160
Speaker 2: down a manhole text.

1690
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: I think the people if they're being honest, because this

1691
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:32,600
Speaker 1: is America here, Luke. They want to see us have

1692
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 1: a violent breakup, right, And then we go our own

1693
01:21:35,880 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: ways and we talk bad about each other and we

1694
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 1: do this whole thing, and we're was trying to one

1695
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:41,760
Speaker 1: up each other. But then we both get to a

1696
01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:43,759
Speaker 1: certain point in our careers where we have nothing nowhere

1697
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: else to go, and then we reunite, not because we

1698
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: want to, because there's nothing else to do. And then

1699
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:51,679
Speaker 1: the people would just be like fucking a right, man.

1700
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: I always knew these guys would get back together. And

1701
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 1: it's like when Harry met Sally podcast edition.

1702
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 2: All Right, Yes, there's that theory as well, But I

1703
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,840
Speaker 2: tend to think that if something breaks us up, it

1704
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 2: is most certainly going to be death.

1705
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: All right, all right? Number eight, Luke Blank is the

1706
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:14,160
Speaker 1: best active MMA fighter today to never win an interim

1707
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,400
Speaker 1: or undisputed UFC title.

1708
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 2: Uh, Like, are we talking about a veteran here?

1709
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 1: We're talking about among active MMA fighters globally, who is

1710
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: the best one right now in terms of where they

1711
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:35,160
Speaker 1: would rank pound for pound right now, not in their

1712
01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 1: in their legacy and what they've accomplished, but who they

1713
01:22:37,720 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 1: are right now who has never won a piece of

1714
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:41,040
Speaker 1: the UFC.

1715
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: Title maybe Rockmanov or Chamiav.

1716
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: See that's it. That that that's why I that that

1717
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: was the creation of this question was to force you

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01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,800
Speaker 1: to sort of jump early and say, maybe it really

1719
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: is those guys. So it's what it's because we don't know.

1720
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: It's what we don't know.

1721
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 2: We don't we don't actually know, which is the problem.

1722
01:23:06,120 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 2: So I'm guessing. But if I had to guess, I'm

1723
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,680
Speaker 2: gonna put one of them too, as like, you know,

1724
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 2: one of them is going to have a belt on

1725
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three or twenty twenty four for sure.

1726
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: Well, the real answer is Lamaha Jeb. But let's let's

1727
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:19,559
Speaker 1: be fair.

1728
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Yeah, you can put them on that list too.

1729
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mikey says Joel Romero. But at the moment he's not.

1730
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 2: At the Yeah, I say, at the moment, though, is

1731
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 2: that really true?

1732
01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,120
Speaker 1: No, at the moment, this isn't a question to say

1733
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 1: who's the best to never win UFC titlest that's Dan

1734
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 1: Henderson probably probably right, Probably that's a different question. That's

1735
01:23:39,160 --> 01:23:41,400
Speaker 1: two more. Here we go, number nine, Luke, I'm filling

1736
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 1: the blank vaping, delta products, and childcare. Notwithstanding, the one

1737
01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: item in your life that you currently spend way more

1738
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: money on than you should is blank my.

1739
01:23:55,240 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 2: Home, Jim, my home, Jim. It's more expense than you

1740
01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 2: could ever imagine, like this, you know, And I bought

1741
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 2: into the scam, you know, because not that not that

1742
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,920
Speaker 2: having a stuff at home is bad. Actually it's great,

1743
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 2: but you know, to get the kind of stuff you

1744
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 2: actually need or want. In my case, it turns out

1745
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 2: you have to buy a lot of shit and it

1746
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 2: just ends up being way more expensive than you ever imagined. Oh,

1747
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:28,280
Speaker 2: I got this seven hundred dollars deadlift bar. I got this,

1748
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:30,920
Speaker 2: you know, one hundred and fifty dollars kettlebell, I got this.

1749
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,439
Speaker 2: I don't know, I got my wife got me a

1750
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 2: pull up bar that was like two hundred bucks and shit,

1751
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 2: and you add it all up. Man, it's a fucking

1752
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:39,160
Speaker 2: minivan I could buy with that fucking thing.

1753
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: And then you got to move it out to the

1754
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: front yard every time you lift.

1755
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's right, all the weights and everything

1756
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 2: I have to transport out to the front yard to

1757
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:46,720
Speaker 2: go lift and then bring everything back.

1758
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: How did you not see the future and see this

1759
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 1: was going to be a filled right do you have

1760
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: an in.

1761
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 2: Because I'm a fucking idiot, dude. We mean you know this.

1762
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: Look we all have I am stupid. I have a

1763
01:24:58,000 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 1: lot of them. I just don't bring them up the

1764
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 1: Oh my wife will tell you about them though. Look,

1765
01:25:02,280 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 1: thank you for answering that. Answering that. Honestly, we have

1766
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,600
Speaker 1: one more to close this. Luke number ten, outside of

1767
01:25:07,600 --> 01:25:12,080
Speaker 1: Connor McGregor or Dana White blank, is the boxing or

1768
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,960
Speaker 1: MMA related guest that would drive the most traffic for

1769
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,880
Speaker 1: room service diaries if they met up on our couch

1770
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: in Jersey City.

1771
01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 2: Oh oh, that's a big one, Mike Tyson.

1772
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,520
Speaker 1: Great answer, Great answer.

1773
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,680
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson is a good one. I think is he

1774
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 2: would do sick numbers, believe it or not.

1775
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 1: What about Jake Paul Not that I'm pushing for it necessarily.

1776
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,600
Speaker 2: But I don't even want to talk to him on

1777
01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:47,240
Speaker 2: the I mean, you know, I'll cover his fights or whatever.

1778
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 1: But like, yeah, I won't hang out with him.

1779
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get well, it's not even that. It's just like, dude,

1780
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 2: I mean the guys, what is he twenty five, twenty six?

1781
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:56,439
Speaker 2: Like you haven't seen life yet? You know.

1782
01:25:58,400 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: Gsp is in this conversation.

1783
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 2: No, he's not. Noos both Valentina sisters. You mean Chefchenko

1784
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:09,960
Speaker 2: fu face and I've had both Chef Chenko sisters on

1785
01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 2: the air before together at the same time.

1786
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:14,640
Speaker 1: Wow, double Rainbow, that's fantastic.

1787
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, No, that wouldn't do the numbers either. Uh.

1788
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:23,559
Speaker 2: I feel like they, you know, you know who show

1789
01:26:23,600 --> 01:26:25,559
Speaker 2: Time is pushing on us. We haven't said this on

1790
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: the air. They really want us to interview Liver King,

1791
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,200
Speaker 2: and I'm like, get the fuck out of here. I

1792
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 2: do that in a second, Luke liver King, Oh, we

1793
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 2: think I want to talk to this zero. We just

1794
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:36,480
Speaker 2: made up fucking.

1795
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:38,519
Speaker 1: Challenge the ship out of him, Luke.

1796
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 2: Okay, what does that do. He's just gonna deny.

1797
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: It, do you know, Luke, we're both forty four.

1798
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well he's on all the drugs and you're not.

1799
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: So Yeah, I'm on other ones, Mike. He wants Colby Covingon. Yeah,

1800
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: nobody would nobody would.

1801
01:26:55,640 --> 01:26:57,800
Speaker 2: No, No, why would you want Colby Covington. He's just

1802
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,719
Speaker 2: gonna dude. I want people that are gonna tell interesting

1803
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 2: stories about their interesting lives, not pro wrestling characters. We're

1804
01:27:05,439 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 2: gonna tell us fucking everyone's a nerd and virgin who

1805
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,720
Speaker 2: likes Spider Man or something. Yeah. I don't give a

1806
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,120
Speaker 2: shit about that stuff anymore. You know.

1807
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: There you go, there's our show for the week. Luke.

1808
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:17,040
Speaker 2: Okay, we're talking about no, no, no, you know who because

1809
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 2: he's a combat sportsman. You know who would do the

1810
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:23,479
Speaker 2: biggest numbers. And I'm being dead serious, Donald Trump, Donald Trump.

1811
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: We could talk to him about affliction, We could talk

1812
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,519
Speaker 2: to him about Vitor versus Evander Holyfield and all that shit.

1813
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Man the UFC, My man, my man would be ratings bonanza.

1814
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 1: I mean, our fans would love it, Luke, my parents

1815
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: would probably love it too. Good God, Yeah, all right,

1816
01:27:42,360 --> 01:27:44,120
Speaker 1: there we go. Thank you Florida for that one.

1817
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 2: Luke.

1818
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:46,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna let you die in peace because I think

1819
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: we're done with this show. But a reminder to folks,

1820
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: if you want to wear the same merch that we're wearing,

1821
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:54,680
Speaker 1: that we're drinking out of. In fact, I'll tell you

1822
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,840
Speaker 1: this one used if you really want it, go to

1823
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Morningcombat Dot store. I'm telling you the merch is high quality.

1824
01:27:59,880 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: The bomber jackets that are for sale now until they

1825
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: run out it's really probably the best stuff we sell.

1826
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,760
Speaker 1: You'd actually buy it if if it was in like

1827
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: H and M or some shit.

1828
01:28:08,360 --> 01:28:08,640
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1829
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,320
Speaker 1: I don't know where you shop. I don't care, but

1830
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 1: you chop at Tommy Bahama Bahamian. I don't know what

1831
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 1: what even is? That is Luke alive anymore? Uh? You

1832
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 1: can support us on Showtime by trying out for thirty

1833
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,759
Speaker 1: days free showtime dot com. Why don't you get that app?

1834
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,080
Speaker 1: Wy don't you stream that ship? Okay? Bella tour boxing movies?

1835
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 1: Bill Cosby?

1836
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Hey, what happened to Michael brow Bell interview?

1837
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:38,639
Speaker 1: I think it's in the same closet where they keep

1838
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 1: us when we have that free throw contest in the

1839
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,160
Speaker 1: Billy Madison out.

1840
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 2: We got to figure that out.

1841
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was a great day. It was a

1842
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 1: great day. When we die, they'll posthumously postumeus.

1843
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,120
Speaker 2: Like, hey, we want to send you to wash Dads,

1844
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:56,760
Speaker 2: to the middle of gang Turf to go do some

1845
01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 2: free throw shooting. It's you know, we want to it's

1846
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 2: sort of a real urban blight background. Can we go

1847
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 2: do that and then never publish it? And I'm like, yeah,

1848
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 2: that's exactly what.

1849
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: People were yelling at us from adjoining buildings there while

1850
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:09,479
Speaker 1: we were playing.

1851
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 2: And also the court was made of milk rates. I mean, yes, yes,

1852
01:29:14,720 --> 01:29:16,080
Speaker 2: very well thought out decisions.

1853
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:18,600
Speaker 1: And then some guy go out of a car and

1854
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna go to my car get my

1855
01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: other knife. Cut all you fools up, you know, and

1856
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: I was like, wait then, can't jump all over again.

1857
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 1: It was great, Luke, that you look uncomfortable by that joke.

1858
01:29:28,120 --> 01:29:31,599
Speaker 1: That's the show for today, all right, oh good, okay,

1859
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,200
Speaker 1: that's just your regular default look. Thank you to Minich

1860
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: Gaff Long Island, Luke, Mikey Morms, all the people that

1861
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: work well, I mean they they checked their phone a lot,

1862
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:43,679
Speaker 1: but that are worked behind the scenes on this show.

1863
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,560
Speaker 1: My name is Brian Campbell. That's Luke Thomas. It's a

1864
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: slow weekend, but you can spend that slowness by voting

1865
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:55,439
Speaker 1: for US World MMA Awards dot Com Slash nominees Morning

1866
01:29:55,479 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 1: Coombat Best MMA Broadcasting. I think I don't know for

1867
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: Luke to time, I am your boy BC. Take care

1868
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:06,040
Speaker 1: of yourself this weekend, have fun, enjoy the sun, and

1869
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: may all your hosts stay loyal. They never they never

1870
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:13,599
Speaker 1: do though, I mean they ain't loyal. They're not they're

1871
01:30:13,640 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: not loyal at all. Right, you know, you find yourself

1872
01:30:16,880 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 1: a good one. You're lucky, Okay, you.

1873
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:19,200
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.

1874
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,680
Speaker 1: It's yeah, wow, right, you know what I mean. I

1875
01:30:21,720 --> 01:30:25,800
Speaker 1: got ninety nine problems, you know, but you know I mean,

1876
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 1: I don't we live? Okay, great, good, that's great.