WEBVTT - #256 - Desiigner 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:02.480 Boulet Cat Podcast. We got a special guest in here, 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.120 my guy designer. What's goody? What's goodie? Big cat? What's that? Man? 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:07.560 How you been? Bro? Everything's thirty, Everything's thirty. Man. You 0:00:07.640 --> 0:00:10.440 for me putting out music? Man? Just keep going, staying focused, 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:12.520 staying in the high. You know what I mean? You 0:00:12.560 --> 0:00:17.759 know now out of trouble you had obviously, Man, when 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:19.840 P and B passed away, did that hits you hard? 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:21.560 It hit me hard? Man. He used to record here. 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.200 He's been on my show many times. And I felt 0:00:25.239 --> 0:00:26.760 like for a while there like you kind of might 0:00:26.760 --> 0:00:30.720 have been done with music man. Yeah, they had want 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:33.519 to Uh, I wind up hitting me man, I had 0:00:33.520 --> 0:00:35.199 wound up losing like three friends in a month and 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.400 all that's your big cat word. It just like you 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:40.800 know what I mean? Hit me Right after the session. 0:00:40.840 --> 0:00:44.080 I was just recording you know what I mean on 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:46.879 our journey, you know what I'm saying. And then my 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.519 boy I just called him like, yo, Bro, I love you. 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.279 Uh you feel what I'm saying. It was just like word, man, 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:55.400 we need more love for me. We just lost tape. Yeah, 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.240 and it just was it was bad, man. It was 0:00:58.240 --> 0:01:01.400 bad to hear that ship for me, So I wound up, 0:01:01.400 --> 0:01:04.800 you know what I mean, just before me slamming it 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:06.640 all out for me, I had nobody there to talk 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:08.840 to at that moment, so I just let it all out, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:11.440 you know what I mean, just rebirth myself. You know 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.920 what I'm saying or what I would have to say. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:16.080 How do you feel mentally now? Like are you It 0:01:16.080 --> 0:01:17.880 feels like you're back. You got your head back in 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:20.520 the game on the wrap ship. I appreciate it. I 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.720 get word. It feels amazing. Word man, I feel like 0:01:22.720 --> 0:01:25.880 that was you know tape PMB and my boy. You 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:27.480 know what I mean, I take you passed away in 0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:30.200 the hood. Just they just you know what I mean, 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.520 lose it to industry friends, you know what I mean, 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:36.840 just really just then they just gave me like oohs 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:38.840 bro to just keep going, bro like, don't give up. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.479 You know what I'm saying, Like I feel like none 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:41.720 of them will want me to ever give up, you 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.840 know what I'm saying. On what I put my you know, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.280 my fits that the stone to do, you know what 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:47.600 I mean, what I really wanted to do and this 0:01:47.760 --> 0:01:50.800 keep focused on what we're doing and touching the people 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:52.720 and giving them the energy spider of the messages and 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:54.680 knowledge and just love. You know what I'm saying, keep 0:01:54.680 --> 0:01:57.360 going for me. Yeah, you were talking earlier when you 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:59.639 came in to you you fuck with psychodulcts pretty heavily. 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:03.800 You did, yes, sir, big my boy all the way. 0:02:03.920 --> 0:02:06.440 So you say you've done d MT. Yeah whatever, what 0:02:06.520 --> 0:02:11.400 was that like? Man? It was yo, Man, amazing words. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:15.320 That's it's hard to express express right like, yeah, you 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.320 think what I'm saying, but it's uh, it's it's it's 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:20.040 it's it's lovely. Man. It puts you on so much 0:02:20.040 --> 0:02:21.880 of a highest surface, you know what I'm saying. And 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:24.200 when you can see life front the back, you know 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.160 what I mean, and just like what they say. Last 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:29.280 fifteen minutes, you know what I mean, and it felt 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:31.359 like you did for a lifetime. You for me, you 0:02:31.400 --> 0:02:34.239 feel like you see life now after the journey. It's 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:37.320 way more like and a higher frequency. You know what 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.239 I'm saying, like thinking bigger. You fe what I'm saying, 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:40.720 way larger, like you know what I mean. Even the 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:42.640 words you're using. It's careful you for me, You're more 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.960 careful with certain things. Yeah, word, just understanding. It's an 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:48.840 ultra power installed. You know what I mean, Wars, How 0:02:48.880 --> 0:02:53.400 long ago did you first try it? Suit? Uh? Suit 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.959 Like I tried my first one, but I had the 0:02:57.040 --> 0:02:59.680 pen depends not the same, right, Yeah, I had depend 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:01.880 and then have wine up coming home. Because what happened 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:04.080 was I did in Atlanta. My boy had wind up 0:03:04.080 --> 0:03:05.600 giving it to me. Youfore I'm saying out there we 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:08.760 were chilling out there. It was vibs. You know what 0:03:08.800 --> 0:03:11.120 I'm saying. There was vibs, and I was just like 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:12.960 kicking back. I was like, can when I get to 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.360 l A, I'm gonna do this the right way. You 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:20.120 know what I'm saying? Heavyweight? Yeah, everywhere crazy root, it's crazy, 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.280 crazy stroom. And it took me you know what I mean, 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:25.080 to me on my body. And then from there, I 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:27.600 just was seeing the galaxy being and you know what 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.239 I'm saying, I'm in the galaxy. I've seen the land 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:31.640 of fire. You know what I'm saying. Word like, you 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:34.480 know what I mean, nothing but perception, no legs, no 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:37.480 nothing for me, but just seeing the being and like 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.360 it's just like word this the sole presence. I didn't 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:46.080 see like the beans that was like black aura. But 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.320 I mean black but white aura around them. Bro. For me, 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.200 it was wavy bro before. Yeah, you know what I'm 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:53.560 talking about. You know what I'm saying. So it's like, 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:55.960 so I've not I haven't done DMT. I've done shrooms 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:58.360 heavy and I've had some pretty deep trips. I heard 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:00.880 d m T like you're not the same you see 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.520 you kind of like come out on the other side 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:05.840 of it. I've had like people I know say that 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:08.200 they like were atheists prior to that, and then they 0:04:08.200 --> 0:04:10.520 do DMT and they're like, no, there's a god like 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:13.040 I saw him. I felt that energy. I felt that 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:15.880 presence of higher power up. That's why I locked with 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:17.480 your eyes man, because I feel like, you know what 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.960 I'm saying. Word man? What up? So how often are 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:24.600 you shrewman? You microdosing man? Definitely, Bro, just like yo, anytime, 0:04:24.720 --> 0:04:26.839 like anytime I really like get my chance and I 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:28.680 feel a vibe too, I'm really into. But I'll be 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.039 doing them more than often. Like I just gave it 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:33.040 like probably four days off just now five because you 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:35.160 were just micro doesn't have a productive day, right, Yeah, 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:37.440 what up? What up? That's when Johnny, of the time 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:39.360 I'll be doing I'm microdosing. You know what I'm saying. 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:41.000 If I'm moving through the day, then when I get 0:04:41.000 --> 0:04:43.520 back to the crib, you know, I man like five man. Yeah, man, 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:48.080 take it up. That's fire man. Recently you went online 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.280 because there was this discussion about Kodak Black Verse twenty 0:04:51.279 --> 0:04:57.039 one savage and you're freshman covered now you had something 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.200 to say about that because you do have a I mean, 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:02.280 panda's a fun and how many times platinum? Oh man, 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:07.840 it's diamond eight times platinum. 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My bookie used the promo 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.200 code Bootleg. Let's get back to the interview. But I 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:21.719 saw you kind of like put your like, you know, hey, man, 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.880 don't don't forget about me over here, you know what 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.760 I mean? And I was going to ask you, like, 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:29.479 do you feel like you somehow? Because I feel like 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:35.040 you're overlooked in terms of that freshman class, because you know, 0:06:35.320 --> 0:06:37.600 your freestyle was so legendary that you had to make 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:41.320 a record off Timmy Turner, shit turn into a record, 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.640 you know what I mean. I don't think anybody else 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.880 had a freshman freestyle that turned into an actual song. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.960 Yeah it's love man, Honestly, rob me. I was banging 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.760 on the fridge. I've brung that, you know what I mean, 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:54.479 that talent from the you know what I mean, the neighborhood. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:58.000 I was in the back of clubs, Timmy, Timmy, timoth Tana, Yeah, 0:06:58.200 --> 0:07:00.440 hish forbon is doing that in the back your clubs 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:02.280 and everywhere it was going. It was like, yo, bro, 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.359 what's that? So it was like that day. It was 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.160 that moment that time. I was just like, yeah, I'm 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:07.360 a bust right here. You know what I'm saying. I 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.440 already knew it and then turned into a record. Yeah 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.440 you know what I'm saying. But I'll be like working 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:12.480 on my shirt, you know what i mean, saying in 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.080 front of the people always I'm always good with the performance. Man, 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:17.400 ain't gonna lie you put me anywhere with the performance 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.040 with that, trust me. I've seen it man, the way 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.120 you throw the mic up and I saw you real 0:07:22.200 --> 0:07:24.160 ninety two three, we had a show on like twenty seventeen, 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.040 I think, and then afterwards you did the after party 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:31.120 at Playhouse and you were fucking lip my boy loo 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.440 you were you was doing shit with the mic, and 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:35.880 I was just so impressed because most people would drop it, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.000 bust their lip. You had all kinds of rock star 0:07:38.080 --> 0:07:41.080 ship going. Yeah, I appreciate it. Burn up love Love, Yeah, 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.840 your life show is insane, bro, for sure? For sure? 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:47.360 What is something? Because you know, I feel like you 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:49.560 kind of had like a rough shake in terms of 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:53.160 like the music industry kind of ending up over with Kanye. 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.760 I feel like you were kind of mishandled, you know, respectfully. 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.400 Do you feel like you like, what did you learn 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.320 from your previous label situation that you're you can apply 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:11.560 to your career now? Really just uh well that's a 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:15.760 great question, bro. I love that question. Bird. What I'm 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.080 moving with now is just really just like just a team, 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:19.800 you know what I mean. Just you know what I'm saying, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.880 like word, you know what I mean, respectfully, you know 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.280 what I mean to not no offensive other team that 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.240 I was with, former team I was with, but just 0:08:26.240 --> 0:08:27.920 the team love. You know what I'm saying. It's more 0:08:27.920 --> 0:08:30.240 of a like compassion. It's more of it like we 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.199 talk together morning as they checking in. You fee what 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.520 I'm saying. It's bigger than just music with them, You 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:36.800 know what I mean. It's a family. You know what 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:38.800 I mean. And that's what I got right now. You 0:08:38.840 --> 0:08:40.720 know what I mean with my new situation with Riverton 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:43.160 Andrews Scott and listen, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.800 we moving and it's just that love is that, Yo, 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:47.520 We're going We're going to the top of getting bigger 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.920 and bigger. What do you got in the chamber right now? 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:51.920 Music wise? You got a project coming or you're dropping 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:55.800 obviously you're dropping singles and stuff. What's next? Word? Honestly, man, 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.280 we got a new album we're working on right now. 0:08:58.440 --> 0:08:59.920 You know what I'm saying. Called You know what I mean. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.880 I'm start I'm gonna start off with what's coming out tonight. Though. 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:04.920 You think what I'm saying bigger and bigger. You fe 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:08.240 what I'm saying. Word, Make sure y'all tuned in. It's wavy. 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.280 You pon me Triumphy, you phone me the vibes some 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.960 of my favorite instruments in the world. Yeah, we're going up. 0:09:14.000 --> 0:09:15.880 We're going up. And then I got you. Fee what 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.040 I'm saying the vibe of the album for me. Word 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:20.480 you know what I mean? The album is coming up 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:24.080 new color for me. Word, it's the name of the album, 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:26.839 new color, New color. I like that? Or what's that mean? 0:09:27.040 --> 0:09:30.200 Oh man? It's just I'm the wing I see things nowadays, 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:33.000 big broke, like you feel I'm saying like it's like 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.040 through through a new lens. You fel me? You know 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.839 what I mean. So it's it's seeing and reaching for 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.839 new color. You fee what I'm saying. So observed and 0:09:40.200 --> 0:09:41.680 love of color. You know what I mean? The God 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.520 with God creating is you know what I mean? The 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.480 vibe but just the a one. You fe what I'm saying. 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:51.600 Word Star Wars vibes. I know Star Wars. Yo. Another 0:09:51.679 --> 0:09:53.400 situation that you were a part of earlier this year 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:55.800 that kind of a viral, was you and EStG kind 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.760 of have like a public spat because you didn't like 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:58.839 that he was going to charge you. I think it 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.040 was fifty k for a verse, right, oh man, seventy 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:05.680 five seventy five christ I remember that number of all time. 0:10:05.880 --> 0:10:07.360 But yeah, but you had called him out, like I 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:08.880 think a lot of people were kind of critical of 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:10.360 you because they're like Hey, well he doesn't know you 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:11.880 this what he charges like. It is what it is. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:16.120 But you guys kind of got past that. Liked Was 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:19.839 there anything you took from that situation? Really? You know 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:22.079 what I mean? I had to really come with artists, 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:23.880 you know what I mean nowadays with the new artists, 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:27.200 I guess with like features and stuff, because you know, look, 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.000 I was I was the dude in the game. You 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:31.400 knowee what I'm saying. I ain't the number one Diamond records. 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:33.520 Like we going up man connext to Kanye West. We 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.320 were selling out arenas we're doing We're doing things. I 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:38.520 wasn't really charging people like that. You were doing ship 0:10:38.600 --> 0:10:40.000 like a lot on the strength to be fun with 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.440 them if you love you know what I mean, Like 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:44.760 we seeing each other. I'm a fan of you all, 0:10:44.920 --> 0:10:46.679 Like I see your work, Yo, let's put something together. 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:48.560 We just on the planet and this is the hip 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:50.920 hop culture of just making music. So I think, you know, 0:10:51.080 --> 0:10:53.200 just the supporters outside, you know, they like to see 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.199 like collaborations. Yeah, and I just was trying to put 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:59.520 something together, so you know what I mean. Where that's all? Yeah, Yo, 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.600 Obviously coming into the game with the song like Panda 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:05.960 I want to say, Drew Ski put me onto that record, 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.040 my boy shout out. He had to be one of 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:14.559 the first guys Towns and the Ray drew Ski, you know, 0:11:14.600 --> 0:11:17.160 Bobby trans shake the block. Yeah, but it's crazy because 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.200 that record was like such a movement out of New 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:22.160 York City, right, and then you end up on good music. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.840 The version of that song ends up on you know, 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:27.600 The Life of Pablo, which is one of my favorite 0:11:27.640 --> 0:11:30.960 Ya albums. When did you first, like initially find out 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:34.480 Yay was going to use part of Panda on the 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:37.560 Life of Pablo. Oh Man, Like, bro, when we was 0:11:37.600 --> 0:11:41.640 over there in the city and be driving, we just 0:11:41.679 --> 0:11:43.320 came you know, it's eleven label bit and will be 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:46.040 going crazy. Everyone's trying to sign you yo, everybody yo 0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:51.280 on tables up, going crazy, being a taxi cat all. 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:52.800 He gets a call like, Yoya, you want to do 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.480 something with the record? You know what I'm saying now? 0:11:56.040 --> 0:11:58.480 My Lloyd He like, hey, y know, I think you 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.400 want to do something with the ad libs like you 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:01.839 forel me like you want through the dollar? You even 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:05.240 think you want to long story short, he like to 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:06.960 let's fly out to la He tell us to pack 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:10.079 up go to l A. We go off there, y'all. Bro, 0:12:10.400 --> 0:12:12.480 I'm over there like that whole day. You fee what 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:14.920 I'm saying, like something. You're just pulling up, you know, 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:16.920 y'all see us chomping out the car. He just in 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:18.640 the car. You just had the record right there for us, 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.760 like you for me, like yo, you like this like 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:23.800 all right, bet, that's the fire. You feel what I'm saying. 0:12:24.000 --> 0:12:26.520 At first, you know what I mean? And I thought 0:12:26.559 --> 0:12:28.200 he was gonna go longer. 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Yeah, definitely, 0:14:36.720 --> 0:14:42.640 were many people try to sign Man. Even you chose 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:45.480 Kanye probably over everybody because at that time that record 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.760 was so bad, I mean you know what I mean, 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.680 Like it was different. Well, and obviously there was like 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.760 the highs of the good music situation, but obviously they 0:14:52.760 --> 0:14:54.240 were the lows. And that's not just for you as 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.080 an artist. There's a lot of artists that were all 0:14:56.080 --> 0:14:59.280 good that, like, you know, probably deserve more attention. Word, 0:14:59.360 --> 0:15:00.760 you fell what I'm saying it was it was a 0:15:00.760 --> 0:15:02.240 lot of people that were trying to sign me. And 0:15:02.240 --> 0:15:03.520 the reason why I'm saying that, you know what I mean, 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:06.520 because you know some artists that's you know, other artists 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:07.800 that you try to sign me as well. You know 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.560 what I'm saying, Well, yeah, just as you know who 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:12.160 else trying to sign you that like, who is the 0:15:12.160 --> 0:15:14.600 closest besides ya that you were that you were looking 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:18.320 at in terms of just like potentially signing with other artists, 0:15:18.720 --> 0:15:23.880 other artists ross mmg, the artists, anybody out of New York, 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:28.880 bad boy, I ain't gonna lie shign up French. Oh, 0:15:29.040 --> 0:15:32.280 Cooke boys, Cooke boys. That would have been crazy. And 0:15:33.000 --> 0:15:34.960 that was real. You know that ship for real? For real? Bro, 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:37.440 every time I see you, it's a movie, man, that's movie. 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:39.760 And that's the reason. It was a couple of artists, 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.720 you know what I mean. Or it's a couple of artists. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.200 Though my boy, French ain't gonna say all the artists, 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.640 but no, that's the French. Yeah, French. French is a 0:15:46.640 --> 0:15:52.600 great ceo too, man him. Recipes of Chinks say it's 0:15:52.640 --> 0:15:54.600 dope too, man, because I feel like you're in a 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:59.160 really rare position where you know, a lot of people 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.840 might have had your journey in this music industry and 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.960 like been discouraged or allowed it to Like I'm sure 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:08.480 at times it was like mentally taxing for you, but 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:10.320 it feels like, man, you're coming out on the other 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.480 side of like this shit. I'm pret sure know what 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.640 I'm saying. Yeah, do you feel like musically you're in 0:16:15.680 --> 0:16:17.320 the best space you've been in a long time in 0:16:17.360 --> 0:16:19.840 terms of just being creative and there were definitely being 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:21.520 able to be zone them with myself, you know what 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:24.280 I'm saying, Like I had, I was in a relationship 0:16:24.280 --> 0:16:25.760 and ship. You fel what I'm saying, just got off 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:29.840 that situation positive or negative, toxic not toxic for Shawn 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:33.880 Rock Blueface type of shit, but it you know what 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.480 I mean. You know I had to you know, I 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.320 had to just get my vibes. I felt like I 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:39.720 had to gain myself, you know what I'm saying, Like word, 0:16:39.840 --> 0:16:41.960 you know, just had to really sad myself, man, and 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:44.600 just build up pandemic. It was just a little different, 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.320 you know what I'm saying. I felt like I was 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.200 doing my I was seeing myself in the same cycle. 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.720 That's for me and Shorty like kind of like separated 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:54.040 at that time, you feel me, it wasn't as close 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:55.640 as much. So it was just like, you know, she 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:57.400 on the East coast, I'm on the West coast, right, 0:16:57.520 --> 0:16:59.080 I'm out here. I'm building the crib out, you know 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.160 what I'm saying, doing shit with crib. So I just 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.200 was like more alone, if I'm saying to myself. And 0:17:03.200 --> 0:17:05.800 then from that, you know what i mean, flights all 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:09.359 that stuff, COVID people being separated, and it's like, you 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:11.960 know what I mean, we just became like more like this, listen, 0:17:12.000 --> 0:17:14.200 you know what I'm saying. And then word, I feel 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:15.640 like it was a good thing though, for real, because 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.800 it changed me. Bro. That's where you know, the journey 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.160 Psychoelicy started. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. It started 0:17:20.160 --> 0:17:24.680 seeing life from from small from the end, to from 0:17:24.720 --> 0:17:26.440 the plant to you know what I mean, to the 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:28.480 way I'm eating, you know what I'm saying, To how 0:17:28.480 --> 0:17:31.199 I fix my diet, how I fixed my mom yea 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.359 for me? Hey, what up y'all? 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