1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Conversations on life, style, beauty, and relationships. It's The Velvet's 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: Edge Podcast with Kelly Henderson. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: Louis Schwarzberg is a renowned filmmaker and director of the 4 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 2: award winning documentary Fantastic Fun Guy, narrated by Bree Larson. 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: It's also on Netflix. It's rated one hundred percent on 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 2: Rotten Tomatoes. I didn't know that was possible. That's great, 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 2: pretty rare. Yeah. Louis has also spent his notable career 8 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: providing breathtaking imagery using time lapse, high speed and macrocinematography techniques. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: He's a visual artist who breaks barriers, connects with audiences 10 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: and tells stories that celebrate life and revealed mysteries and 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: wisdom of nature, of the nature of people and places. 12 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: Thank you for being here, Louis. 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 3: Hi. 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 4: Good to Beauty Kelly. 15 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 2: So as I was, you're here today to talk about 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: your film Gratitude Revealed, And as I was, you know, 17 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: researching you and prepping for the podcast, one of the 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: things that I loved is that you've had this big 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: career and so much of it was focused on the 20 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,760 Speaker 2: visual aspects of life and just visual beauty, and it 21 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: seems that now you're taking that skill set and kind 22 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 2: of incorporating maybe diving a little deeper into the inner 23 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: beauty of people in the world and just combining the two, 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: which is something I completely resonate with. That's kind of 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: how my career has gone too, So I just wanted 26 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:26,559 Speaker 2: to talk about that journey, how you got from really 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 2: focusing on the visual aspects of life to now wanting 28 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 2: to dive a little bit deeper. 29 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 4: Well, in a way, I think they're the same. I mean, 30 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 4: the stories I love to tell are stories about, you know, 31 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: people who overcome adversity but have a lot of joy 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 4: to hope in your life based on the fact my 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,639 Speaker 4: parents were Holocaust survivors. So with nature, it's stories about 34 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: you know, colony collapse, disordered with the bees, AND's sorry 35 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 4: about the mushrooms, you know, being this connective network under 36 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 4: the ground, which is all about resilience. It's all about 37 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 4: being strong and being served oriented. And I think the 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 4: same thing is true with people and their stories and 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 4: so on the visual side. When I shot all those 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 4: interviews and Gratitude Reveal, I mean, I think you probably 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 4: noticed it was all beautiful. Well, that's part of the story. 42 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: That is the story In other words, I don't just 43 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 4: shoot people in a crummy, contrasty ugly light situation because 44 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 4: I'm trying to seduce people to open their hearts. It's 45 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 4: subliminal really that you are engaged in beauty as you're 46 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 4: hearing words of wisdom from people that you know, perhaps 47 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 4: you consider to be the other. You know, we've got, like, 48 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 4: you know, people of color, we've got different genders, and 49 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 4: we have people from different parts of the country Red States, 50 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: Blue States, cowboys. And to be able to kind of 51 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 4: soften that transition by, you know, making it beautiful is 52 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,559 Speaker 4: one way to I think, enhance the storytelling. 53 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, was there a specific moment that you realized that 54 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: or did you I know you mentioned having Paris parents 55 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 2: who survived the Holocaust. Was that some sort of mentality 56 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 2: that you just kind of grew up with because of 57 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: their experience. 58 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,080 Speaker 4: Well, because of my folks, that definitely grew up with 59 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: appreciation or gratitude, you know, because they appreciated all the 60 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 4: little things in life, you know, the food on the table, 61 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 4: the roof over your head, the fact you have a job, 62 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 4: were and the miracles having children that to them was 63 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 4: like heaven on earth, And so definitely learned and in 64 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 4: a way again it's it dovetails to being an environmentalist. 65 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: You know, it's the little guys that make the world 66 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: go around. It's my cilial network that makes soil. It's 67 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: the bees that pollinate the flowers. It gives us the 68 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 4: fruit and nuts, the berries, the vegetables, the healthy food 69 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 4: we need to eat. It's the people on the bottom 70 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 4: of the food chain that is the foundation of life. 71 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 4: And so you know, we are nature. And I love 72 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 4: the fact that you're noticing there's a difference between the 73 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: two and they are like in the sense different spheres, 74 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 4: but it's almost like yin and yang. It's like male 75 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: and female. They're really one and the same. We are 76 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 4: nature and for me to take that exploration. One thing 77 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 4: I did realize though after I finished gratitude revealed and 78 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: way after actually because people kept on asking, like, for example, 79 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 4: you made this pie about mushrooms, fantastic funguy, Like why 80 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 4: make a phone by gratitude and talk to all these people? 81 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: And what I realized and we touch it on it 82 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 4: in you know, fantastic fungi are the people that are 83 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 4: having the treatments with psychedelics for cancer. And the critical 84 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: part of that treatment is the integration that after they 85 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: go on this journey and they have this incredible aha moment, 86 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 4: the important thing is the integration of how you're going 87 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 4: to apply what you experience, what you learn in relationship 88 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 4: with your friends and your family and your work. Well, 89 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 4: I think that when I made Fantastic Fun Guy, I'm 90 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 4: sharing the wisdom from below the ground of this my 91 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,679 Speaker 4: silly oll network, a shared economy not based on greed, 92 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 4: where nutrients are shared for ecosystems to flourish. And then 93 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: you got to say, okay, wow, well, what are can 94 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 4: I do with that knowledge now that I've seen it? 95 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 4: You know? Well, it's because gratitude revealed is a journey 96 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:49,599 Speaker 4: to the soul. How do I take that wisdom Nature's 97 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: operating instructions and apply it to my community, to my work, 98 00:05:54,960 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 4: to my life. So it is an extension from and 99 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 4: to the other. 100 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I'll talk about this a lot on the podcast. 101 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: But just like the last couple of years specifically being 102 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: so difficult for everyone, I mean, I think, you know, 103 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 2: we went through this pandemic, so that was one major 104 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: hit for everyone, But then there's so many more things 105 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 2: that I think have contributed to this like heaviness maybe 106 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 2: or you know, just the divisiveness that we're all having. 107 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 2: And you talk a lot about using gratitude specifically for 108 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: your physical and mental health. So could you talk a 109 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: little bit to that aspect of what you learned? 110 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 4: Well, when you talk about, you know, the pandemic, I 111 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 4: think you know, most people, other than people that unfortunately 112 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 4: got super sick or maybe died, but in general, most 113 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 4: of us experienced disconnection and despair and again gratitude, being 114 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 4: grateful for the little things, going out to dinner with 115 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 4: your friends and family, getting together in person. You know, 116 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 4: we totally took that for granted, you know, being able 117 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: to travel. So gratitude, you know, is I think it 118 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 4: was meant to kind of happen or gratitude reveal the movie. 119 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: The perfect timing was really right after the pandemic. I 120 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 4: mean I've been shooting these little magic moments with people 121 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: for almost four decades, kind of you know, nurturing and 122 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 4: sort of sharing these little nuggets of wisdom with remarkable 123 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 4: but quote unquote ordinary people. They're not ordinary, they're just 124 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 4: not celebrities. Yeah, and so I've been you know, kind 125 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 4: of like a squirrel saving my nuts and the time came. 126 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 4: I think to string these pearls of wisdom onto a necklace. 127 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 4: In the universe a lot of times is the master 128 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 4: marketer that tells you when things need to be born. 129 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 4: And so it is I think a good thing to 130 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 4: happen after the pandemic. Also, to respond to your question, 131 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: I mean the way I relate to it and the 132 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 4: way I use it is the fact that it's easy, 133 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 4: especially now, from the pandemic, from the political discourse, from 134 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 4: environmental degradation, from disconnection to feel despair. And we're all 135 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 4: talking about this mental health crisis, Well, what can we 136 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: do about it? I feel that gratitude isn't like the 137 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 4: antidote to all of it. I do believe it's a 138 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: baby step in the right direction, because you can't have 139 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: a negative thought and a positive thought in your mind 140 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 4: at the same time. So when, and this happens to 141 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 4: me all the time, I go into a negative spiral. 142 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: You know, somebody you know said something wrong to me, 143 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: I got rejected, you know, who knows, maybe someone scratched 144 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 4: my car, whatever it is. For that moment, you know, 145 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: and then you have to take a pause and go, 146 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 4: what can I be grateful for you? Know, grateful that 147 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 4: I'm breathing, grateful that my fingers are moving, grateful that 148 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 4: I'm looking at the light bouncing off a tree, Grateful 149 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 4: for the cracks on the sidewalk that look like the 150 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 4: veins in the leaf. I mean, there's always something you 151 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 4: can find I believe to be grateful for. Yeah, and 152 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 4: when you do that, you shifted your mindset from it 153 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 4: from rumination, which is a problem because it's easier to ruminate. 154 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 4: We all do it, you know, and and it's great 155 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: that you can do it. It's almost like on your computer, 156 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 4: but you got this hard drive, are you going to 157 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,079 Speaker 4: fill it up with good stuff or bad stuff? You know, 158 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 4: negative energy or positive energy. You only have so much 159 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 4: room in that hard drive. You only have so much 160 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 4: room in your in your like memory or your instant 161 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: recall memory, your brain. And if you're in the moment 162 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 4: of appreciating what you can be grateful for, then it 163 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 4: brings you back becoming present. And when you're present, you're good. 164 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 165 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: The thing about the present piece, I love that you 166 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 2: just pointed that out because in most cases, my dad 167 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: always says to me, are you okay right now? And 168 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: in most cases I am, you know, in the actual moment, 169 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 2: I'm okay. And so if you can bring yourself back 170 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 2: to the present, a lot of times it takes you 171 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: out of the future. It takes you out of the past. 172 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 2: And like in this moment, am I okay? 173 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 4: And gratitude does that because when you ruminate, you are 174 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 4: typically thinking about that bad thing that happened, somebody fired you, 175 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 4: somebody broke up with you, right whatever, right, or you're 176 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 4: you know, or the thing you're fearful of that's around 177 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 4: the corner in the future, yeah, anxious about. But in 178 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 4: the moment, yeah, that's when you can find peace and harmony. 179 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 180 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: Well, I love the people of this film. I mean 181 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: to me, I just I learned so much from watching 182 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 2: and listening to people. And I think you put it 183 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: out how important connection is as humans. And I felt 184 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: that in the film. I was telling you before, I'm 185 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 2: from Louisiana, and there's so many references to just you know, 186 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 2: the visual part of even me watching them cook the 187 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: food and just the celebration and being with each other. 188 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: I feel like that was such a heartwarming moment for 189 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 2: me to even watch. And yeah, that just kind of 190 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: reminds me of the simple things of life, I guess 191 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: is what I would say. There was a quote that 192 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 2: someone says, real gratitude doesn't come from what you got materially. 193 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: Everything is a gift. Like I'm alive, I live in 194 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: a house of the roof that doesn't leak. So you 195 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 2: kind of touched on this, But how important is it 196 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: to really pay attention to what's happening in our day 197 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 2: to day life, the simple things, and just focusing on 198 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 2: everything as a gift. 199 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 4: Well, I think it becomes clear, like all of a sudden, 200 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 4: you know, we all say like health is most important, 201 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 4: and when we're sick, yeah, and we face some calamity, 202 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, all those other concerns fall by 203 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 4: the wayside, and now it's like, oh wow, I got 204 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 4: to get better, and I really, more than anything, I 205 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 4: want my health back. Yeah. It's a real wake up call. 206 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 4: You know, we've all had that. I'm sure I had 207 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 4: it recently, And so I'm trying to remember what the 208 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 4: question was. 209 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 3: I know, it's okay. 210 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: I was just pointing out you kind of already touched 211 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: on this a little bit, but just noticing the little 212 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: things that we maybe take for grated day. 213 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 4: To day, and same thing your health is you know, 214 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: it's a big thing, but we take it for there's 215 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 4: a trillion cells in your body that are all working 216 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 4: in harmony. Like what a gift that is. You know 217 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 4: that someone's like managing that whole affair for you. And again, 218 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 4: the stories that I tell are about the little guys 219 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 4: about to be the bats, the honeybirds, the pollinators, without 220 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 4: which we don't have healthy food, without which plants can't reproduce, 221 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: without which life on our plant would probably disappear. And 222 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: the same thing is true with you know, my cilular network, 223 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: bacteria under the ground and fung guy that makes soil. 224 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 4: No soil, no plants. You know. So I love unveiling 225 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: the mysteries of life. But as I do that, I 226 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 4: learned more and more it's the little things that make 227 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: the world go around. And I think the same thing 228 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 4: could be true if you apply that to you know, 229 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 4: people and your relationships. You know that one little smile 230 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 4: that somebody gave you. You know that the one little 231 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 4: adaboy that you heard let you park your car and 232 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 4: somebody you know smiled at you. You know, it's like, yeah, 233 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: that can make someone's day, And you have to really 234 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 4: appreciate those little things and also give them as well. 235 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, we talk about that a lot here on there. 236 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: Just even when you're having a bad day, if you 237 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: smile at a stranger, like you said, it really can 238 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 2: turn your mentality around you, even if you're. 239 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 3: The one giving it. 240 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 241 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 2: You interviewed Michael Beck with and in the film he says, ultimately, 242 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: gratitude is a way of life, even the hardships. They're 243 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: activators for our potential, for our growth. And to look 244 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: at it that way is obviously not easy. It's not 245 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 2: my nature to go there first. 246 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: But I loved it. 247 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: He was pointing out that that's just a practice, and 248 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: the more we practice that. So I heard, you know, 249 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: the part of your story about your parents, and this 250 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 2: was kind of a common theme in some of the 251 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: other interviews you did. But it seemed to me that 252 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: some of the people, and I think this has been 253 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: my experience in life too, but sometimes the people who 254 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: have gone through the greatest hardships are the ones with 255 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: the most gratitude at the end of the day. Why 256 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: do you think that is. 257 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 4: Because they've they've developed that sense of appreciation. I mean, 258 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 4: the same thing is true with you know, people that 259 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 4: are born in the circumstances that where they don't have 260 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 4: a lot, you know, uh, they share their food, you know, 261 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 4: they open up their drawery like you know, I've been 262 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: to places in India, Morocco, places where you know, people 263 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 4: don't have a lot, and you'll blows you away how 264 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 4: willing they are to share with you. You know. I 265 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 4: think it's perhaps for people like that in those situations, scarcity, 266 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: you know, makes you appreciate things more. 267 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost like a perspective too. Maybe if you've 268 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 2: gone through great loss you can then experience great joy 269 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 270 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: Absolutely, and yeah, it's it's a way of life. And 271 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 4: also with what Michael said, I think that what's you know, 272 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 4: every phrase that's tried is actually a truth because it's 273 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 4: told many a time. But when you go through an 274 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 4: obstacle or a challenge and you look back and they 275 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 4: say it's a blessing in disguise, you know it's true. 276 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, you broke up from that guy. Well, 277 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: you know at the time it was hard, but then 278 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 4: when you look back, you go, boy, I'm really gree 279 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 4: that happened. Yeah, exactly if from that relationship or that job, yeah, 280 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: we found a better job. Let's say, but at the moment, 281 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 4: you think it's a disaster and it's really hard because 282 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: you have to go through a change and a transition. 283 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 4: But typically when you look back, it's always like you're grateful. 284 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: So true, and every time someone says to me it's 285 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: a blessing and this guy I want to punch him 286 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: in the face, but it is true. 287 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 4: It's a good way to look at it. 288 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never not been true in my life. Yeah, 289 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 2: you know, in hindsight. 290 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, and in the way Michael, I think phrases was 291 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 4: really good too, that these obstacles are a challenge and 292 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 4: work close. Yeah, what he said, so in other words, 293 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 4: like when it so actually in the moment, instead of 294 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 4: looking back later and going, oh yeah, that was a 295 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 4: good idea, that I didn't stay with that person, but 296 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 4: instead like as you're in it in the moment, it's like, okay, 297 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 4: someone just like it is annoying at work or whatever, 298 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 4: and so instead of like getting all stressed out it's 299 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 4: a challenge. Yeah, you know, like how am I going 300 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 4: to do? How am I going to deal with this 301 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 4: in a real positive way, and how is it going 302 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: to make me better? You know and grow to be kinder, 303 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 4: to be more open minded, to be more generous, whatever, 304 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 4: dealing with a difficult situation, So tackle it from that 305 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 4: point of view, as opposed to I'm so angry, I'm 306 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 4: so annoyed, i can't stand this person, you know, Yeah, 307 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 4: and I'm getting all and then you know what they 308 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 4: feel that and all you're doing is accentuating this, you know, 309 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: reciprocal negative energy kill people with kindness, is what I believe, 310 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 4: you know, or another good phrase you have to pick 311 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: between being right and being kind is kindness. And it's 312 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,199 Speaker 4: a miracle what it does for you and for that 313 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 4: other person. 314 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 3: I believe that wholeheartedly. 315 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 2: I want to know in your everyday life, what are 316 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 2: some ways that you practice gratitude. 317 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 4: Well, I always have gratitude in my back pocket, as 318 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,479 Speaker 4: I said earlier, when something negative happens, it's my G spot. 319 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: I know. I imagine this capital G, which is almost 320 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 4: like God capital G. Yeah, and I know it's going 321 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 4: to work, and it's it's it's a it's a little 322 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 4: it's a little challenge of finding that thing I could 323 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 4: be grateful for. But my typical day starts off where 324 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 4: I've got to tim lap studio bedroom actually turned into 325 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 4: a studio where I'm shooting flowers NonStop for four decades, 326 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 4: seven days a week. It's been the studio. Now it's 327 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 4: a bedroom, but it's big enough to explore the world 328 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 4: inside of a flower. First thing I do is I 329 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 4: go downstairs and I try to find out did the 330 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 4: flower open? Is it in focus? Is it healthy? Connecting 331 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:32,199 Speaker 4: to the circadian rhythms of life, connecting to organic you know, 332 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: life energy, plant energy especially is a great way to 333 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: start your day. And then I look in the garden 334 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 4: and I see all the flowers and who's next going 335 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: to be in front of my camera. And that's before 336 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 4: I drink coffee or tea. That's how I start my day. 337 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 4: And I just I drink that in And when I 338 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 4: found out recently there's a book about the Blue Zones, 339 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 4: which is like these of in five places around the 340 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: world where people live the longest. Okay, and he did 341 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 4: a study on that. It's called the Blue Zones. I 342 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 4: forgot the name of the author, but like Okinawa, I 343 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,879 Speaker 4: think it's Sicily and it's like five places where you know, 344 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 4: people live to over one hundred. Well, one of the 345 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 4: things that they do every morning is they go into 346 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: the garden and the attend the garden. Also, they have 347 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: relationships with community. They're not alone, you know, with their neighbor, 348 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 4: their family, whatever it might be. They're very connected as 349 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 4: a community and that's what creates longevity and having purpose 350 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, so yeah, so I wake up. I 351 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 4: got purpose. I mean, I got this ball I'm juggling, 352 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: or I got to keep the cameras rolling NonStop. I 353 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 4: can't miss a single minute or two because it takes me. 354 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: In a twenty four hour period, I capture about five 355 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 4: seconds of film. That's it. So if I let a 356 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 4: day go by, you know, I missed a full day. 357 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 4: But like, it's going to take me a long time 358 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 4: to accumulate the footage. You want to take a guess 359 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 4: how much time lapse flower and mushroom footage I have 360 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 4: filming forty years NonStop. 361 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 2: I would not even know where to start with that 362 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 2: hour and give you it's. 363 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 4: An hour, it's an hours, yes, hours. Do I have. 364 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: Thousands? Higher? Twenty twenty thousand. 365 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:38,440 Speaker 4: Twenty I've squeezed forty years into twenty hours. 366 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 3: How is that possible because. 367 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 4: I only get three to four seconds per day. 368 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, yeah, you're shooting one frame every 369 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 2: ten minutes, one frame every fifteen minutes. 370 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 4: An hour goes by. You got a quarter of a second. 371 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. 372 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: That's that's why I got to keep it. 373 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 2: Going all the time, right all the time. And because 374 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: you don't want to miss a moment. I would imagine, yeah. 375 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: I miss a moment, but every day's precious and uh yeah, 376 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 4: I just got to keep it going because it takes 377 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 4: so long to have an end result. 378 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. Wow, Well you've kind of go ahead. 379 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 4: No, and you know you you know you can't buy 380 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 4: you can't buy time either. 381 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: No, be grateful for every minute. There you go. 382 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 2: Well, we I was going to actually move into the 383 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 2: visual aspect of kind of healing and how you're using 384 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 2: that in your work now, and you're sort of touching 385 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 2: on that now. But you say, beauty is nature's tool 386 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: for survival because we protect what we love. Our appreciation 387 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: for nature's incredible beauty is the first step in preserving 388 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 2: it and all that it provides for humanity. So how 389 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: do you feel that appreciation for the beauty around us 390 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: inspires connection with our sol them with others. 391 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 4: Because you'll protect what you love, We're hardwired to do that. 392 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: You know. That's why puppies are cute, and kittens are cute, 393 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,120 Speaker 4: and babies are cute. We're you know, we we're hardwired 394 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 4: to nurture them and love them because we want or 395 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 4: DNA wants life to go forward. If you look at scientifically, 396 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 4: you know, evolution DNA wants life to go forward. If 397 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 4: you want to look at it spiritually, then it's about love, 398 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 4: you know as well. So given the fact that we're 399 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: hard wired to do it, and perhaps my thesis is 400 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: that nature invented beauty so that we would protect it, 401 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,920 Speaker 4: so that we would care for it, because that's really 402 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 4: the only way I believe we're going to solve this 403 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 4: environmental crisis. You can't tell people like to do list like, oh, 404 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: you should recycle, and you should like, you know, don't 405 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 4: use pesticide and all the you know, things you're supposed 406 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,919 Speaker 4: to do to be environmentally conscious. On the other hand, 407 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 4: if you love trees, I find it's really hard to 408 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 4: throw a paper not because of a reminder that, oh 409 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 4: you're supposed to recycle, and there's a label recycle on 410 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 4: that trash can. It's just that I can't do it. 411 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 4: I can't do. 412 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 3: It because you love trees. 413 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna harm. I'm 414 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: not going to harm anything. Right and again, even going 415 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: back to my parents again, like I'm against extinction of 416 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 4: any kind people, plants, animals, ants, the snails I find 417 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 4: in my garden, I collect them and then I move 418 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 4: them across the street where there's a big patch of ivy. 419 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 4: It's it's like a hillside where you know, I'm gonna 420 00:24:54,119 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 4: be cares. But it's like I'm respectful of the gene 421 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 4: of a snail, even it's a miracle, yeah, of ingenuity. 422 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 4: Who am I to just stop on it, you know, 423 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,239 Speaker 4: even though I don't want it in my garden, So 424 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 4: I just move them around, you know. 425 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 2: Well, I love that you pointed that out earlier a 426 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: little bit when you were mentioning bees. Even you know, 427 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 2: like we don't think about on a day to day 428 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: basis all of the things that are working to keep 429 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 2: this whole world moving and going and functioning. It's the 430 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: same thing as our health. We don't think about all 431 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 2: the things our bodies are doing to function. And it 432 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 2: is interesting to think about slowing down and having appreciation 433 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 2: for those things which we unfortunately don't often do. Until 434 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 2: something goes wrong. 435 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 4: And speaking of the bees, I mean, beauty is what 436 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 4: motivates the bee. It's getting turned on by the color, 437 00:25:54,320 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 4: the scent, the pattern, the nectar, the tape of that flowers, 438 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 4: and its being motivated to land on that flower and 439 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:08,640 Speaker 4: to bring some of that nectar and pollen back to feet. 440 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 4: It's babies, right yeah, And how is that happening with 441 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 4: beauty Because we look at the flowers. They turn us 442 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 4: on as well. They smell great, they look beautiful, right yeah, 443 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 4: and they also motivate us to take care for them. 444 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: I mean I am a slave to my you know garden. Yeah, 445 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 4: out of your garden a little bit. 446 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 3: I try. 447 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: My brother's really good at it though, and so he 448 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 2: has this beautiful garden. It's like therapy for him because 449 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 2: keeping it alive. It's a very rewarding thing, I think. 450 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 4: But like if you get if you bring home some 451 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 4: cut flowers, you immediately have to deal with it. 452 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to cure too, because they're pretty. 453 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 4: Exactly yeah right, you're life. And so that's one way 454 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,239 Speaker 4: to motivate behavior. Yeah right, same thing with you. Then 455 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 4: you can say, well, look at the extreme other ends, 456 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 4: like a relationship fall in love with somebody you find 457 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 4: them to be attractive, you want to do whatever you 458 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 4: can to you know, honor that relationship in a really 459 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 4: beautiful way. But you're being motivated by it, not because 460 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 4: you're supposed to do it, not because you're guilted into 461 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 4: doing it. You know, if you look at the bees, 462 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 4: this is pretty remarkable, you know. So they're they're they're 463 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 4: being turned on by beauty. They carry up holland back 464 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 4: to the hive to feed their babies, and so they're 465 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 4: a messenger for sexual reproduction for the flowers. I'll take 466 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,480 Speaker 4: a more so I'll take a really kind of dry 467 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: scientific approach here and say that the bee is not 468 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 4: conscious that it's helping the flower. It's simply taking care 469 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,200 Speaker 4: of its need to feed, its to feed the rude right, 470 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,919 Speaker 4: So the fact that the flower seduced the bees to 471 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 4: do that, and the bees do it unknowingly, and perhaps 472 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 4: the flower is not aware that the pollen is actually 473 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 4: feeding baby bees, you know, either that it's it's not 474 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 4: helping that you know, colony, you know, flourish. So what's 475 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 4: really beautiful as they're enabling each other to flourish unknowingly, 476 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 4: as opposed to a quid pro quote. I do this 477 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 4: for you and you do this for me, you know, 478 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 4: which is which is another form of relationship, right, right, 479 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 4: But imagine in a relationship where I do this for 480 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,719 Speaker 4: you unknowingly and it's going to make you it's going 481 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 4: to improve your life because I'm just doing what I'm doing. 482 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 3: Right, So is everyone in that equation? Yeah, that's interesting thought. 483 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 2: Well, let's talk a little bit about the catch the 484 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 2: wave Gratitude Revealed Tour. Yes, tell us what what is that? 485 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 4: Well? I want to spread the gift of gratitude, and 486 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 4: what we're doing is we're making it available both virtually 487 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 4: and screenings because we want people to come together. So 488 00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 4: we have like an educational curriculum. We have a teacher's guide, 489 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 4: a parent's guide. In the movie. I hope you noticed, 490 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 4: Kelly that there's nothing preachy in the movie. You know 491 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 4: what to do and how to practice gratitude at all, 492 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 4: But there are people that do want guidelines and they 493 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 4: want help, and so you know, we actually have a 494 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 4: companion book with research done by the Greater Good Science 495 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 4: Center at DUC Berkeley that can tell you how to 496 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 4: you know, develop practices more gratitude and under values undergratitude, generosity, curiosity, creativity, courage, connection, 497 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: you know, love, all those things kind of add up 498 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 4: to Grady to at least for me. And so there 499 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 4: are guidelines we want to share with people, and so 500 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 4: after a screening, we make that material available, whether it's 501 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 4: in person or not. And that's what we want to do. 502 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 4: So we want to initially get people to come together. 503 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 4: And one of the beautiful ways we've been doing it, 504 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 4: and we just launched it on four to twenty on Thursday, 505 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 4: is the Louis Channel. So the Louis Channel is an 506 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 4: over the top platform that's like Netflix or HBO Max 507 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 4: or you know, Paramount plus. Yeah, and I think I'm 508 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 4: probably the only filmmaker has done this so far. I'm 509 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: making it available on like Apple TV or Roku device 510 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 4: where you can have an immersive experience with really high quality, nutritious, positive, 511 00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 4: celebratory media that makes you feel good. Gosh, now I know, 512 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 4: and we totally need it. So Gratitude Reveal fantastic fun guy. 513 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 4: I got a bunch of shorts about you know, moving 514 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: arts on it. Louis Land is for kids and children's 515 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: hospitals to be able to tap into that. I got 516 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 4: Friends of Louis, which are other people's work that I'm 517 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 4: bringing on, but I'm curating like the best of the best, 518 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 4: Like we just launched Howard Hall's underwater cinematography, one of 519 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 4: the world's best. He does like three d Imax movies 520 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 4: with whales and dolphins and octopus and all kinds of 521 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 4: cool stuff. And yeah, so I want to make that 522 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 4: available because unfortunately, in the world we live in right 523 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 4: now and the dilemma we're facing, it's a battle ground 524 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 4: of consciousness that is happening. And the new currency isn't money, 525 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 4: it's eyeballs, right, And if I can grab your tension, 526 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 4: I own you. And the easiest way for me to 527 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 4: grab your attention is with fear. Or I can be 528 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 4: really gross and vulgar like politicians are, and it's hard 529 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 4: to ignore. We we definitely have to be vigilant, but 530 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 4: it's also easy to get sucked in because when you do, 531 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: you're sucked into their world. I don't want to be 532 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 4: in Trump world. No, I don't know, but I know 533 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,719 Speaker 4: it's really hard to look away. It's like a train, right. 534 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 4: We all know that. It's like because again, we're hardwired 535 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: for survival. The fear thing is the thing that you know, 536 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 4: the brain goes to first for survival. It takes more energy, 537 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 4: more talent to make you laugh and cry to turn 538 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 4: you onto art, but at least it's an emotion. Because 539 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 4: if I said don't look at that stuff, it's bad 540 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 4: for you, that's not going to stop you from doing it. 541 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: If I say don't watch horror films, don't watch violence, 542 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 4: don't watch guns and killing on TV, it may not 543 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 4: dissuade you because it is a bit of an adrenaline rush. 544 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 4: But what I can do is offer you a choice. 545 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 4: I can turn you on in a different way. I 546 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 4: can give you an adrenaline rush. I can make you, 547 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 4: you know, instead of building cortisol in your body and 548 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 4: anxiety and from the from looking at negative imagery of 549 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 4: torture and you know, fear and guns, it's like you 550 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 4: can do that with love and beauty. You get turned on. 551 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: Yes, And like you said, that's where people, that's where 552 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 2: if you find that in something you really want to 553 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: keep going back. Yes, you connect with that, well, I 554 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: love that. I'm going to put all the links to 555 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 2: where to find that. And then also just the Louis 556 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 2: Channel and things like that for people in the description 557 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: of this podcast. 558 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, louis channel dot TV, so it's available on your 559 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 4: phone as. 560 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 3: Well, or oh that's cool, Okay. 561 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 4: It is, but I wanted it to be available in 562 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 4: Okay again, let's go going back to beauty. Why do 563 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 4: I care about you watching you and four K on 564 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 4: a big screen TV. I care because that detail. Yeah, 565 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 4: nature created the subtlety of colors, or the myriad of colors, 566 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 4: and the zillion colors and the contrast and all those patterns. 567 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 4: They touch the deepest part of your soul. So I 568 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 4: don't want to dial that back. You know. It's like 569 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 4: if you're listening to beautiful music, you don't listen to it, 570 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 4: you know, to a tiny little you know, earpod or something, right, 571 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 4: I mean, you want to hear the fidelity of the 572 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 4: entire orchestra, right, So you want to you want all 573 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,399 Speaker 4: of it. You want to get turned on to all 574 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 4: of it. And guess what it's wavelength energy, it's I 575 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 4: think it's medicine that's hitting your retina, that's sending electrical 576 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 4: impulse to the brain, that is making your heart feel good. 577 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 2: Like I couldn't believe some of those images were real. 578 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: It doesn't look it doesn't even it can't Like I 579 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: couldn't process it. 580 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 3: It's crazy, it's very. 581 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 4: That's because it's stretching the norms of perception, which is 582 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 4: really healthy. Because we have a narrow point of view. 583 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 4: It's why do a lot of time laps for slow 584 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 4: mo macro micro. So we have to step out. I mean, 585 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 4: it's a good metaphor, don't we have to step out 586 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 4: of our little safety zone, our little cocoon. You travel, 587 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 4: you want to see the world. You want to see differences. 588 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 4: People in Louisiana different than the farmer in Verbon. This 589 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 4: is true, yet they're the same, just another version of themselves. 590 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 4: They want the best for their kids, They want a 591 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:52,280 Speaker 4: healthy life, they want to maintain their culture, right music, 592 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,320 Speaker 4: have good food, play their music. 593 00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true. Thank you for this. 594 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 2: I'm just so happy to have people like you out 595 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 2: there just putting out positivity and love and gratitude and 596 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,879 Speaker 2: those things that I feel we just need so much 597 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 2: in our culture right now. So appreciate what you're doing 598 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: and I appreciate you being here. Thank you, Thank you 599 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 2: guys for listening. 600 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Velvet's Edge podcast with Kelly Henderson, 601 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: where we believe everyone has a little velvet in a 602 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: little edge. Subscribe for more conversations on life, style, beauty 603 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: and relationships. 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