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Speaker 1: I am Greg Rosental here in the Chris Wesleyan podcast
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some surprising injury news about Jordan Love.
Speaker 1: We'll get to the Packers game later. We will also
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Speaker 1: All right, so we're every week we start with the
Speaker 1: game that has the smallest point spread and then we
Speaker 1: work our way up to the biggest point spread.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it's going to be a blot.
Speaker 1: We saw a lot of underdogs win outright last week,
Speaker 1: a lot of big upsets. But I am kind of
Speaker 1: happy from an old school, traditional TV you know way,
Speaker 1: that we're starting with Ravens and Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the Baltimore Ravens favored by one point greg over
Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys. These teams have a similar issue glaring
Speaker 5: offensive deficiencies in one particular portion. The Ravens still dealing
Speaker 5: with the departure of three linemen. The replacements have been
Speaker 5: kind of slow in getting a start and making things
Speaker 5: productive there. For Dallas, it's seemingly making the run game
Speaker 5: an afterthought both schematically and personnel wise, and they both
Speaker 5: rely on their paid quarterbacks to compensate for that. But
Speaker 5: Deck couldn't compensate Steve for the defense, which got run
Speaker 5: out of the stadium for the second straight game there.
Speaker 5: The Packers did it last last year in the playoffs
Speaker 5: on Sunday. Well, that's why this is the Derrick Henry game, right.
Speaker 3: This is the back that everybody in Dallas wanted for
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and so this is the back that the
Speaker 3: Ravens have not figured out how to use yet.
Speaker 4: Oh and what a doubt.
Speaker 3: So we're looking at a video over Schiechi heat and
Speaker 3: all these great pass plays. You know, they only threw
Speaker 3: the ball nineteen times. The Saints ran all over the Cowboys,
Speaker 3: and I think this is going to be an opportunity
Speaker 3: because of that soft interior as they say, up the
Speaker 3: spine d tackles mid linebacker in safeties in a run
Speaker 3: game for the Cowboys. For Derrick Henry to get that
Speaker 3: run game going, even though those both of those guards,
Speaker 3: as Patrick xcept for the Ravens have been shaky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, they did get the running game
Speaker 1: going late against the Raiders. They ran the ball pretty
Speaker 1: well in the second half before the three and ounts
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. But before that, Henry
Speaker 1: was finally kind of looking like Henry And you said it,
Speaker 1: this Mike Zimmer defense. They could not set the edge
Speaker 1: last week at all. We were talking about Demarvion Overshan,
Speaker 1: Marshawn Neilan, these these young guys for the Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: overshad was barely even playing last week. They were in
Speaker 1: base defense. They had three linebackers on the field and
Speaker 1: they still got run over. You know, you sign a
Speaker 1: couple guys Jordan Phillips and Linval Joseph late in camp
Speaker 1: and you're like starting them week one.
Speaker 2: That is never a good sign.
Speaker 1: And now Phillips is actually going to IR So I
Speaker 1: just don't know if they're that talented defensively, like, which
Speaker 1: is crazy to say when you have Trevon Diggs and
Speaker 1: I like Jordan Lewis, and I of course you like
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and Michael Parsons upfront. But it's more just like,
Speaker 1: can a good offense pick out their weak points? I
Speaker 1: think they have some at linebacker, at defensive tackle, and
Speaker 1: maybe in the secondary.
Speaker 2: They are missing Thround Bland too.
Speaker 5: It was just so difficult for the Ravens to really
Speaker 5: do something in the opener against the Chiefs that wasn't
Speaker 5: directly Lamar related. I mean, even in the in the
Speaker 5: Raiders game where the passing yard is they did get.
Speaker 5: Lamar's having to shift away from Max Crosby. He's having
Speaker 5: to make Christian Wilkins miss in the pocket and then
Speaker 5: come up and do the pump fake thing and get.
Speaker 4: The ball to Zay down the field.
Speaker 5: It's just hard to let go of those images and
Speaker 5: thinking about Micah Parsons being the chase guy.
Speaker 4: It's very tough. I agree.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Michaeh Parsons Zimmer is gonna turn
Speaker 3: them loose. But this is the game I think we're
Speaker 3: gonna see Mike. You know, Mark Andrews and Isaiah likely
Speaker 3: get in there. You talk about in the linebacker issues
Speaker 3: they have. You saw fen them up with an intermediate
Speaker 3: passing game and boom, Derrick Henry can get going. And
Speaker 3: like you said, Greg, he was hitting some nights runs.
Speaker 3: He was doing that against Kansas City as well. And
Speaker 3: then Todd Monkin flashed back to the playoff game and said,
Speaker 3: you know, we don't need to run the ball with
Speaker 3: our running backs anymore.
Speaker 4: Let's make Lamar try and do everything.
Speaker 1: So flipping to the other side when Dallas has the ball.
Speaker 1: And I like the Ravens in this game. It's partly
Speaker 1: because they're zero and two, but it's probably just because
Speaker 1: I think they're a better football team. I might have
Speaker 1: jumped off my I take that the Cowboys were gonna
Speaker 1: be a mess one, you know, one week too early.
Speaker 2: I got it right, and then I jumped off, and
Speaker 2: now I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I'm not really being serious about that, but I do
Speaker 1: think the Ravens are a more talented team. And that
Speaker 1: game last week that the Ravens lost, it was one
Speaker 1: of those where you know, if at football outside of
Speaker 1: FTN now they run the simulations and like, if you
Speaker 1: look at the game, the Ravens should have won that
Speaker 1: game like ninety two percent of the game time it was.
Speaker 1: It was a little fluky how they lost it. And
Speaker 1: then you look at this Dallas offense, which hasn't really
Speaker 1: been right for two straight weeks. Where are the strengths
Speaker 1: for this Cowboys team. Sure it's Dak is there, but
Speaker 1: the offensive line communication I think has been an issue.
Speaker 1: There's been a little bit of talk of like Dak's
Speaker 1: making all the calls at the line of scrimmage, but
Speaker 1: you have a rookie center and communicating to the offensive
Speaker 1: line and them all being on the same page. And
Speaker 1: it's not just the rookie left tackle with Tyler Geyton.
Speaker 1: They're right tackle Terrence Steele had a really bad game
Speaker 1: last week. And you know, the Ravens can maybe get
Speaker 1: after the passer a little bit, they can cook things up.
Speaker 1: And I still think the lack of depth behind cd
Speaker 1: LAMB is an issue and I have more faith that
Speaker 1: kind of in the Ravens infrastructure.
Speaker 5: If the Cowboys are looking for good news, this stat
Speaker 5: was wild that I saw this week. The Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 5: have had the opposing quarterback play action pass drop back
Speaker 5: thirteen times. They are thirteen for thirteen on those dropbacks.
Speaker 5: A rough start both team. Somebody's got to get something
Speaker 5: figured out. But Greg, you mentioned offensive line issues. That
Speaker 5: brings us to our second game, the Chicago Bears OH
Speaker 5: at the Indianapolis Colts.
Speaker 4: The Colts favored by one and a half points.
Speaker 5: The Bears worked their way through the AFC South this
Speaker 5: early season, their third AFC South opponent on the road again.
Speaker 5: This time, the Colts were able to score thanks to
Speaker 5: a couple of spectacular plays by Anthony Richardson and Alec
Speaker 5: Pearson company in Week one. But the run defense has
Speaker 5: been an issue. Can the Bears even run the ball? Greg,
Speaker 5: to make it an issue in this game?
Speaker 1: I mean they couldn't last week that their offense has
Speaker 1: been such a mess, and you would think think this
Speaker 1: is a great week to get off the schneid against
Speaker 1: a Colts defense which has had its share of struggles, but.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like DeForrest Buckner is out of this game. He is
Speaker 1: on injured reserve. And the front four for the Colts
Speaker 1: just haven't been good enough in any respect. This is
Speaker 1: what they were building their defense around. And yet, like
Speaker 1: when a bad offensive line goes up against a bad defense,
Speaker 1: I still tend to trust the bad defense more and
Speaker 1: like they are the number one. Like as much as
Speaker 1: the run defense has gotten some attention, the Colts aren't
Speaker 1: a great pass defense either.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, the Colts have some players, I mean still, You've
Speaker 3: got Quitty Pay, You've got some guys on that defense,
Speaker 3: Aire Franklin Speed, some guys who can make some plays.
Speaker 4: But this is one.
Speaker 3: I mean, soon is Shane Walder and this coaching staff
Speaker 3: are going to start feeling some heat.
Speaker 4: You know. For the Bears.
Speaker 3: We already know they're all on one year potential Green
Speaker 3: Mile deals, so they're going to have to figure something out.
Speaker 2: What's a great mile?
Speaker 4: Okay? So did you ever see the movie Green Mile?
Speaker 4: You know what that means?
Speaker 2: No, I do know what it means, but I haven't
Speaker 2: seen the movie.
Speaker 3: You're on your way to the death. Cham Oh, okay, right,
Speaker 3: you're on the green mile. That's where you're walking. The
Speaker 3: flora's the flora's green. The flora is green, that is
Speaker 3: the path. So that's if they don't get it done,
Speaker 3: that's exactly where they're headed. But you know, when I
Speaker 3: when I look at the Bears and Caleb, just so
Speaker 3: many things they're over complicating. I think they can run
Speaker 3: the ball. I mean, I think they need to get
Speaker 3: Rashawn Johnson involved a little bit more and Khalil Herbert
Speaker 3: a little bit more. I think there's there's certain things
Speaker 3: that those guys do that they could take advantage of
Speaker 3: against the defensive front that is not great against the run.
Speaker 3: I do some quick passing game stuff to get Caleb's
Speaker 3: confidence going.
Speaker 1: The point I wanted to make about the pass defense
Speaker 1: with the Coast, because you're right, the rushing numbers are
Speaker 1: so bad, but are you know an NFL pro Like
Speaker 1: the next ten sets, they look at efficiency and this
Speaker 1: is actually the second worst passing attack in the league,
Speaker 1: the Bears. That's not a surprise that the fact that
Speaker 1: the Panthers exist is the only reason they're at because
Speaker 1: their number are so bad. But the Colts actually efficiency
Speaker 1: wise are the second worst pass defense, so they're not
Speaker 1: too crazy.
Speaker 2: They're not doing anything well.
Speaker 5: And that's considering the fact that we're two games into
Speaker 5: the season, right and Joe Mixon ran for one hundred
Speaker 5: and fifty three cards for them in the very first
Speaker 5: week of the season. It's one of those very very
Speaker 5: movable objects against a very very visible force type matchup.
Speaker 5: Because the Bears offensive line has given up pressures on
Speaker 5: forty seven percent of their drop back not okay. And
Speaker 5: to see Caleb Williams on the ground writhing in pain.
Speaker 5: First of all, he was exhausted towards the end of
Speaker 5: the game, but just getting teed off time after time
Speaker 5: again by will Anderson Junr as well as the rest
Speaker 5: of that Texans pass It's just hard to get past
Speaker 5: that for me. And I know that, like they want
Speaker 5: to get the downfield passing thing. But Steve mentioned the
Speaker 5: the like the danger that this coaching staff might be in,
Speaker 5: and you juxtaposed that with across the street here where
Speaker 5: the Chargers staff comes in and they aren't running the
Speaker 5: ball well at all in the first half, but they
Speaker 5: stick to stick with it, they commit to it. I
Speaker 5: don't know if the Bears feel like they it's safe
Speaker 5: to go out there and try to grind it out
Speaker 5: against a team that can't stop the run.
Speaker 3: And this is the example that we're seeing so many
Speaker 3: with the young quarterback. We drafted a guy high. We
Speaker 3: have to let everybody know that he's going to be
Speaker 3: the savior. Protect him, run the football. They have shown
Speaker 3: that they can do some things in the run game
Speaker 3: if they stick with it. Okay, they're not playing this
Speaker 3: Texas defensive front. You've heard me on here. The Texans
Speaker 3: are too deep at all their front seven positions. They're
Speaker 3: not playing that type of front this game. Stick with
Speaker 3: the ball if it is a ten to seven game,
Speaker 3: because if very well could because the Colts can't score, you.
Speaker 2: Know, that's that though, like they should be able to score.
Speaker 2: Okay the Bears, I do.
Speaker 4: Okay, Bears defense is legit.
Speaker 1: Bears very good on the back end, and so that's
Speaker 1: troublesome for an Anthony Richardson led passing attack, which has
Speaker 1: been erratic. Michael Pittman said it. They're not getting the
Speaker 1: simple plays, they're not getting the chain moving plays. They're
Speaker 1: getting a couple of big plays. Anthony Richardson, I've sold
Speaker 1: him as a guy who is that makes really good
Speaker 1: decisions with the football that it's an underrated trade. Of
Speaker 1: his interception last week, one of them was a bad decision.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's always been making the best decisions
Speaker 1: on when to keep the ball and when to give
Speaker 1: it on the RPO stuff, So that's something that was
Speaker 1: a little off in Green Bay. I think they got
Speaker 1: to build the whole ship out of the run game.
Speaker 1: I mean, they need to win in the worst way.
Speaker 1: They're at home against a vulnerable Bears team. They're owe
Speaker 1: and two. You can not go to ohero and three
Speaker 1: at home against the Bears. I'm leaning into Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: running and of course I'm leaning into Jonathan Taylor running.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing they have done well. Their offensive
Speaker 1: line has look good, I think through two weeks, and
Speaker 1: they can run the ball. They're one of the best
Speaker 1: running teams in the league. This Bears Eberflus defense is
Speaker 1: built to stop the pass. Really, so I think you
Speaker 1: can win a game because I think Anthony Richardson and
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor should still be one of the very best
Speaker 1: backfields in the league. And to me, that's actually the
Speaker 1: number one thing in this entire game that I trust
Speaker 1: the most.
Speaker 2: Give me the Bears I mean, give me the.
Speaker 5: Colts the high variance aspect, right, but you at least
Speaker 5: believe in one of those variances being able in Anthony
Speaker 5: Richardson being able to make plays. Even though this Bears
Speaker 5: defense is very, very good, It's like it could go either.
Speaker 5: If he's gonna be effectively wild. He's doing it against
Speaker 5: the Bears, but he's also doing it against everybody else.
Speaker 3: The Airs are gonna cover. Caleb's gonna go ahead and
Speaker 3: have oh pretty nice game.
Speaker 2: I like little disagreement.
Speaker 4: We're going ahead there.
Speaker 5: We'll go from there to a matchup of unbeatens, the
Speaker 5: Los Angeles Chargers and the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh for
Speaker 5: their Week three homeover.
Speaker 4: Three yards in a cloud of du Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, it's gonna be a grind out with Justin Fields
Speaker 5: back at the Helm. Favored by one and a half points,
Speaker 5: here comes the Chargers, though they do have some injury
Speaker 5: concerns for Justin Herbert dealing with a foot, but they're
Speaker 5: bringing in one of the most efficient passing and rushing
Speaker 5: efficiency defenses in the entire league. They're number one Steve
Speaker 5: and both of those categories. Do they get it done?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm torn on this, and that's why I like
Speaker 3: the one point five here. I think I think this
Speaker 3: tight game because neither one of these offenses. Well, the
Speaker 3: Charges could score, but Pittsburgh find that end zone is
Speaker 3: a very difficult thing for them.
Speaker 4: Man that defense.
Speaker 3: I like this is where I think Fields, being an
Speaker 3: RPO type of guy, can put some stress on those
Speaker 3: ends because this is where uber talented outside linebacker slash
Speaker 3: defensive ends. They like to use their talent and this
Speaker 3: is going to be a discipline game, right are you
Speaker 3: gonna are you gonna stick with the quarterback?
Speaker 4: Are you gonna take the pitch?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 4: Are you gonna take the the RPO?
Speaker 2: Fake terms of Bosa and Max turns.
Speaker 4: It back in Tully to be a Pilow too. This is.
Speaker 3: I think, you know, boy, I'm torn on this because
Speaker 3: you know, again Pittsburgh can't score. But this is where
Speaker 3: I think Justin Fields and Arthur Smith are gonna be
Speaker 3: able to dial up a couple of things to get
Speaker 3: some yards in that RPO game.
Speaker 1: We're so early in the season, this is to show
Speaker 1: me something game, because what do we really know about
Speaker 1: the Chargers. They've done, They've improved, their their base level
Speaker 1: is obviously better on the lines, and I think the
Speaker 1: defense is playing in sync. But yeah, they've played the
Speaker 1: Raiders and they've played the Panthers. Yeah, the Steelers last
Speaker 1: week are coming off a game against bow Knicks, like
Speaker 1: and Kirk wasn't moving round week one, Like, these defenses
Speaker 1: are going to be excellent, but they've had good matchups
Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks. I have a question is
Speaker 1: like how good is this Chargers offensive line that their
Speaker 1: fans are telling me is going to be great? And
Speaker 1: people are really impressed with Joe All there's some disagreements,
Speaker 1: like if you look at sort of the the metrics
Speaker 1: like pass rush win rate and PFF are are way off,
Speaker 1: Like PFF as them, is a good offensive pass rush
Speaker 1: win rate, run block win rate isn't too kind of
Speaker 1: the Charges right now, I don't put that.
Speaker 2: Much into it.
Speaker 1: But this is the ultimate test because I think this
Speaker 1: is the number one front in the entire league, the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. Cam Hayward, he's done it again, Like he
Speaker 1: was injured last year and he's back to just being ageless.
Speaker 1: Cam Hayward, Canu Bentten had a great game last in
Speaker 1: a Highsmith is good, Like they're just so deep. It
Speaker 1: is going to be a huge test. And you know,
Speaker 1: we tape this show on Wednesdays, justin Herbert missed practice
Speaker 1: entirely on Wednesday. So that's just something to watch because
Speaker 1: if it's Easton Stick, I've seen enough of that movie.
Speaker 2: They're not they're out winning with Easton's thing.
Speaker 1: But we would just have to watch and see Herbert
Speaker 1: did finish out the game, which is usually a pretty
Speaker 1: good sign that you're going to play the next week.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but anytime we're invoking Easton Stick and not in
Speaker 5: a sports equipment up yourself, I can't know. It's it's
Speaker 5: it's every time it comes up. Yeah, that would change
Speaker 5: things entirely. But the numbers for Joe Alt do look good.
Speaker 5: He's he's allowed for pressures on fifty one, blocking snaps
Speaker 5: some of that. It's against Jadavian Clowney coming back. And
Speaker 5: then there was the opener and we did Max Crosby. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's the one they kind of jumps off.
Speaker 4: But t J.
Speaker 5: Watt and the Steelers defense, it's just such a different beast.
Speaker 5: I think it comes into we've seen the Steelers where
Speaker 5: if you're watching the game and you're not necessarily paying
Speaker 5: attention to how things are going. You see them take
Speaker 5: downfield shot after downfield shot with Justin Fields, they're drawing penalties.
Speaker 5: In terms of George Pickens, there's been a couple of
Speaker 5: touchdowns yep that have been called back. It's kind of
Speaker 5: where we looked at the Pittsburgh Steelers last year and
Speaker 5: it's like, well, they just need to rely on this
Speaker 5: big play to George Pickens. It's the same way, but
Speaker 5: the defense is healthier now and the quarterback can make
Speaker 5: more plays.
Speaker 2: There's some real chemistry there.
Speaker 3: Makes me feel between those two there is yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: and if they get the play action going, if they
Speaker 3: get in any type of run game going, this.
Speaker 4: Can be fun. So I was like, guys, we're leaning
Speaker 4: to the home team here.
Speaker 1: I am a little bit partly because of the Herbert injury.
Speaker 1: These are the top two defenses in terms of EPA
Speaker 1: and the Steelers are short handed, like they're counting on
Speaker 1: It's a lot of like Darnel Washington and Van Jefferson
Speaker 1: and Michael Pruitt and Calvin Austin.
Speaker 2: It's like, it's not great.
Speaker 1: And the book on Justin Fields has always been Blitz
Speaker 1: and Blitz and Blitze and he'll struggle. That's what's been
Speaker 1: the approach the first two weeks. The defenses have taken
Speaker 1: hasn't worked at all. He's actually been very effective, maybe
Speaker 1: showing some maturation. But this this Steelers offensive line stinks too.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: They're benching Broderick Jones their first round pick. They have
Speaker 1: not played in SANC. You mentioned the running game. We
Speaker 1: thought this team would be like a good running team.
Speaker 1: They've've been really poor so far actually per play, so
Speaker 1: that's very different. Maybe I'm switching my pick as i'm talking.
Speaker 1: Because only one of these teams has a one time
Speaker 1: guest of NFL Daily.
Speaker 2: JK.
Speaker 1: Dobbins has gotten that bump and he is a man
Speaker 1: of his word since he was on the show with
Speaker 1: us in training camp. I'll let you go on this
Speaker 1: like you're throwing any numbers out there, you got any
Speaker 1: goals in.
Speaker 6: Mind, I'll let you put your numbers out. I'll let
Speaker 6: everyone put their numbers out, and I bet all, I'll
Speaker 6: bet i all beat those numbers that y'all put out.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm thinking like twelve hundred and thirteen hundred yards
Speaker 1: from scrimming something like that. Because they want to share
Speaker 1: the ball a little bit. Gus is going to get
Speaker 1: his work too. But you're looking you can still beat that.
Speaker 1: You're saying, yes, okay, I love it. The look on
Speaker 1: his face is awesome there. And I listened to him.
Speaker 1: I know JK. Dobbins is a man of his word.
Speaker 1: I know this is a very talented man in terms
Speaker 1: of vision and patience and just he's got it. And
Speaker 1: so I told my daughter, you better get JK. Dobbins
Speaker 1: on your fantasy team. She didn't. You know, he's killing
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards. That's nothing right now, he's going to
Speaker 1: pass that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, easy money.
Speaker 5: He his his yards for carry went way down in
Speaker 5: the in Week two, and he had seven point seven
Speaker 5: yards per carry against the Carolina Panthers. Will leave that
Speaker 5: matchup of unbeatens to go to another matchup of unbeatens,
Speaker 5: the Houston Texans, who got that win on Sunday Night football,
Speaker 5: favored by two points on the road in the Hive.
Speaker 3: I mean I love this game, Yes, I absolutely love
Speaker 3: this game. And buzz, Look, you have two offenses that
Speaker 3: run the same scheme, right, Bobby Slowick, Kevin O'Connell, these
Speaker 3: are these are all McVeigh shanahan disciples, right, so it's
Speaker 3: gonna be running the same scheme. And we saw what
Speaker 3: that Vikings defense did to the forty nine ers in
Speaker 3: this game, where you had Rock Purty coming up to
Speaker 3: Brian Flores saying, Wow, that's scheme.
Speaker 2: That game's crazy, bro, crazy bro.
Speaker 4: But the Texans are a different monster. Now.
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how. I mean, they're they're so loaded.
Speaker 3: This this is such a good game. So in me
Speaker 3: talking about Houston's offense going against this defense, I do
Speaker 3: think still that Houston has got some advantages with the receivers,
Speaker 3: the fact that they spread the ball around the way
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 4: You know, Nico Collins is really showing up big time the.
Speaker 2: Leading the league and receiving by like fifty yards.
Speaker 3: But not having Joe mix and is is a is
Speaker 3: a different thing. In this game, we saw cam Akers
Speaker 3: had a couple of good runs, but he coughed up
Speaker 3: the ball. I mean that's been a problem of his
Speaker 3: So CJ. Stroud is gonna have to really show up
Speaker 3: in this game.
Speaker 4: I think this. I mean, he shows up every game,
Speaker 4: but I think this is one where it's going to
Speaker 4: be on his arm.
Speaker 1: Yes, And I've felt that the Texans passing game has
Speaker 1: actually been a little disjointed.
Speaker 2: In the first two weeks. They've been productive. CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud has made a lot of good throws and a
Speaker 1: couple of good throws in rhythm, but he's really counted
Speaker 1: on in both games just making plays, yes, as if
Speaker 1: he's probably been working on that, Like not that he
Speaker 1: wasn't good at that his rookie year, but these two
Speaker 1: games it's really stood out. But the on time winning
Speaker 1: from the pocket throws haven't been as consistent. Now they've
Speaker 1: had pretty tough match you know, pretty tough matchup this
Speaker 1: last week against the Bears, and this is a tough
Speaker 1: one too, But you met it.
Speaker 2: I mean, party's not wrong.
Speaker 1: This game is crazy, bro, Like they're like you said,
Speaker 1: these offenses are similar, the defenses are not because there's
Speaker 1: no defense quite like a Brian Flores defense. And just
Speaker 1: they have like four players I was watching this on
Speaker 1: film this week that are just everywhere. It seems like
Speaker 1: there's two of them. And here's the four. Mattellus is everywhere,
Speaker 1: He's everywhere, Harrison Smith is everywhere, still playing like he's
Speaker 1: twenty five years old. Van Ginkel is everywhere. And then
Speaker 1: the guy I wanted to talk about is Blake Cashman.
Speaker 1: It's the Cashman Revenge game. Blake Cashman was awesome in
Speaker 1: that game. Last week in coverage, Brian Flores said he
Speaker 1: got it like a tip.
Speaker 2: From from a I forget.
Speaker 1: It was like a former Hurricanes coach of Cashman's in
Speaker 1: college that happens to live in Eaton Prairie now or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: And they that's been a great free agent signing.
Speaker 1: And then they have a lot of really smart guys
Speaker 1: who can execute a tough defense.
Speaker 5: And and that's the thing because when you when you
Speaker 5: mentioned all those guys, they're all they've all seen a
Speaker 5: lot of football, and the communication with them works so
Speaker 5: well where there's plays where they line up showing double
Speaker 5: a gap, they got a double bug look and they
Speaker 5: come out to cover two.
Speaker 4: It's like Brock's having to figure that out.
Speaker 5: And at one point, cornerback's traveling with Brandon I who
Speaker 5: can motion, and instead of running, he runs around the
Speaker 5: rest of the secondary and he goes back into a
Speaker 5: single high look and rock Party looks up, like, what
Speaker 5: am I supposed to do with this? That's a hell
Speaker 5: of an ask of a player too, and he just
Speaker 5: has to take a set. It's just there's so much
Speaker 5: and a lot can go wrong and c J. Stroud
Speaker 5: can make you wrong. But it's gonna be fun to watch.
Speaker 5: But I do think right since he come he comes
Speaker 5: into the league as a rookie, he is top four
Speaker 5: in yards per attempt against the Blitz and that includes
Speaker 5: his entire rookie season, where yeah, it's still good and
Speaker 5: B flow sense.
Speaker 1: It's but even like that Week one they didn't like.
Speaker 1: You just never know what you're gonna get. This team
Speaker 1: I think could execute anything. I'm I'm torn on this game,
Speaker 1: like I lean Texans, I don't don't have a strong
Speaker 1: feeling you're You're right, though, Steve, this isn't an awesome one.
Speaker 1: It as much as we talk about the Vikings scheme
Speaker 1: and everything, it's like the Texans still have the players
Speaker 1: Stingley and Lasseter and Petrie in the back end. That's
Speaker 1: a tougher matchup than than Sam Darnold.
Speaker 3: And here's the bigger point, and no one talks about
Speaker 3: them and the Texans linebackers. This might be other than
Speaker 3: maybe the Niners and may the best overall group of us.
Speaker 3: He's Al Shayer, Okay, you know the puncher you got
Speaker 3: Henry Toto. Oh, they have dudes who can run and
Speaker 3: get to the ball and deliver you know, some turnover
Speaker 3: changing contact when they get there, and that's gonna be
Speaker 3: a problem for the Vikings. You know, in that run game,
Speaker 3: that intermediate stuff. The way that these linebackers can run
Speaker 3: and get to the ball are going to be an
Speaker 3: issue for the Vikings.
Speaker 4: I do like the Texans to.
Speaker 1: Cover so that like, this was an inter game coming
Speaker 1: into the season, But you just never know what's gonna
Speaker 1: look like.
Speaker 2: To me, maybe the game of the week.
Speaker 1: I have a little hot take here, Okay, that the
Speaker 1: secondary cruise. And so for CBS that's Charles Davis and
Speaker 1: Iron Eagle, and now for Fox that's Greg Olsen and
Speaker 1: Joe Davis. Like they've been getting the better games every week.
Speaker 1: They got Charles Davis is on Texans Vikings. That's intriguing.
Speaker 1: That's a twenty twenty four type of game. Greg Olsen's
Speaker 1: got Saints Eagles. That's a lot of fun. And then
Speaker 1: they stick you know, the big names. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are just you know, Tom Brady's personal team
Speaker 1: for the third stree week.
Speaker 2: That's a good game too.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying sometimes I've been noticing the secondary
Speaker 1: teams are getting the juicier games. I'm looking forward to this.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the rest of this show too.
Speaker 2: But we are going to.
Speaker 1: Take a quick break and we be back right after this,
Speaker 1: back on NFL Daily.
Speaker 2: For what I think is the game of the week
Speaker 2: in the Superdome right here in week three? Are you
Speaker 2: doing games of the week in the Superdome with that?
Speaker 4: And we were a field goal or a cought ball on.
Speaker 5: A crucial third down away from this being a matchup
Speaker 5: of unbeatens in the Mercedes Been super Dome between the
Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles and the Saints instead the one on one
Speaker 5: Eagles on the road and what will be a Banana's
Speaker 5: atmosphere in the Superdome on Sunday. Two and a half
Speaker 5: point favor with the New Orleans Saints bringing in the
Speaker 5: top offensive football Steve that went deep into the second
Speaker 5: half before they even had to drive, that didn't result
Speaker 5: in a touchdown in Dallas.
Speaker 4: How do you see this one going.
Speaker 3: I'm not a gambler, but two and a half seems
Speaker 3: like a small number because the Eagles defense is not good.
Speaker 3: I mean, the issues that they had last year. Then
Speaker 3: their losing streak have surfaced big time their defensive line phages.
Speaker 3: As the game goes along in terms of stopping the run,
Speaker 3: the linebackers get outmatched and their corners, at least one
Speaker 3: of them the veteran. The speed is an issue. Well, okay,
Speaker 3: rashiit chahed. All he does is catch big play touchdowns. Right,
Speaker 3: You've got chrys Olave, Derek carr is hitting these guys
Speaker 3: running game. Alba Kamara looks fantastic. Like I said, for
Speaker 3: that big number that the Saints just put up on
Speaker 3: the Cowboys, you only through the ball nineteen times guys, right,
Speaker 3: they can run the football. They've got guys who can mash.
Speaker 3: We can say all we want about the Eagles offense,
Speaker 3: keeping them close, their defense, Vic Fangio or whatnot. It's
Speaker 3: not there right now. That two and a half number
Speaker 3: seems very very small to me. So you could think,
Speaker 3: you know, the Saints fans gonna hear and stand up
Speaker 3: and get crunk a whole lot in the Dome this week.
Speaker 2: Right, It's just evaluating.
Speaker 1: Do you put stock into the players' names and what
Speaker 1: you thought going into the season, or do you put
Speaker 1: stock into what your eyes are telling you now?
Speaker 2: The Saints have not played a normal game yet.
Speaker 1: They've they've gotten the thirty by halftime in each game
Speaker 1: because they've just put up touch the touch.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: At some point they will play a normal game, and
Speaker 1: I think that'll be a good test of their offensive line.
Speaker 1: Can they do some true drop back passing, not not
Speaker 1: just blowing people open in the running game. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna have to though in this game.
Speaker 1: To your point, Steve, because the run defense for Philadelphia
Speaker 1: has been so bad, especially against the outside zone. That's
Speaker 1: what the Saints have been majoring in. I can't believe
Speaker 1: how in sync the group is. You give a ton
Speaker 1: of credit to their offensive line coach and Clint Kubiak,
Speaker 1: their coordinator, because Caesar Ruiz and Eric McCoy, especially on
Speaker 1: the interier just blowing people up like Trevor Penning is
Speaker 1: making it happen. And this is going up against the
Speaker 1: exact biggest weakness right now of this Eagles group. And
Speaker 1: Derek Carr has shown in this system he'll pass early
Speaker 1: to set up the run.
Speaker 2: That's where I.
Speaker 1: Think people always get it miss is like like you
Speaker 1: pass early, you get a lead to set up their
Speaker 1: run and that's worked perfectly and right now, like Bryce
Speaker 1: Huff isn't getting it done, but no one else, like
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter's not either. Jalen Carter did not have a
Speaker 1: good game against Chris Linstrom on Monday night.
Speaker 2: Either it's a short week, you're you're on the road,
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 1: Is a They wish they had that win just in
Speaker 1: their pocket because like, even though they weren't playing well,
Speaker 1: sometimes you can work your way into it. But now
Speaker 1: they're looking at a one and two record potentially. It's
Speaker 1: amazing how quickly things change, though. I saw on Twitter
Speaker 1: some Eagles fans just saying like, oh, this is the
Speaker 1: schedule lost, just here's one and two.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, like, that's crazy.
Speaker 5: Well, the big and rapid change to me was it
Speaker 5: was not that long ago where we're thinking about this
Speaker 5: Eagles stable of edge rushers and pass rushers that's rotating in.
Speaker 4: They're leading the league in.
Speaker 5: Time off the snap, snap to target times for everybody,
Speaker 5: and then they don't necessarily want to go up on
Speaker 5: that one million dollars for Hassan Reddick. The Jets don't
Speaker 5: want to either, and then Bryce Huff comes in and
Speaker 5: you're kind of starting to wonder if Howie gets back
Speaker 5: on the phone to try to figure something out.
Speaker 1: It's not that crazy if everyone could just swallow their
Speaker 1: pride a.
Speaker 5: Little bit, because it makes sense for all parties, because
Speaker 5: I mean not to get into the contract leads, but
Speaker 5: a son Ridick deserves more than a million. Yeah and
Speaker 5: change here in twenty twenty four, and there's plenty of
Speaker 5: teams that could use an edge.
Speaker 4: That can well the Jets now that Darine Junson's.
Speaker 1: Out, Yes, they absolutely, they absolutely could.
Speaker 5: But now they've got a number two passing efficiency offense
Speaker 5: coming in where they're number twenty six in passing efficiency.
Speaker 5: And it's not like it was last year. Where's the
Speaker 5: comedy of errors on the back end? Right, it's like
Speaker 5: Queenya Mitchell's playing great, Yes he is, and other than
Speaker 5: getting completely diced up by Drake London on the final play,
Speaker 5: the slave played.
Speaker 1: All right, Sure there was a play I think it
Speaker 1: was the last one, and I was listening to an
Speaker 1: evaluation of it on phl y this podcast Egos podcast,
Speaker 1: and they noted, like on that play they're doing a
Speaker 1: stunt on one side and then they do it three
Speaker 1: by one to set up their best pass rusher to
Speaker 1: have a one on one situation at the Eagles, that is,
Speaker 1: and their best pass rusher they believe with the app
Speaker 1: salute game on the line is thirty seven year old
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham.
Speaker 2: Who has played okay through a twoek.
Speaker 1: But that's not a good sign for what's going on
Speaker 1: with the rest of your guys.
Speaker 4: It's it's just I mean, and this is a bad matchup.
Speaker 3: I mean again, you look at the stretch the stretch
Speaker 3: zone scheme, and what's interesting you talked about how even
Speaker 3: someone like Trevor Penning right who we didn't know could play,
Speaker 3: this scheme has really let guys like that resurrect their careers.
Speaker 3: It comes from an Alex Gibbs run scheme from back
Speaker 3: to the day with Mike Shanahan.
Speaker 4: He never wanted first round draft picks.
Speaker 3: He wanted guys who are agile, with athleticism, who moved
Speaker 3: to a spot, not to a man.
Speaker 4: That's what they're doing.
Speaker 3: When you talked about the offensive line playing on a
Speaker 3: thread and just having someone like Alvin Kamara, who this
Speaker 3: is his type of game where he can be patient
Speaker 3: and hit some spots.
Speaker 4: I just think this is tough.
Speaker 3: I mean, Philly Yeah, they might be able to put
Speaker 3: up some points, but we all know that the Saints
Speaker 3: bread has been buttered with his defense.
Speaker 1: To make just to make the case quickly for Philly,
Speaker 1: it's a huge deal of that aj Brown is expected
Speaker 1: to miss another game and there's such a drop off
Speaker 1: their thin But the Saints defense, and at least the
Speaker 1: last few years basically the same defense has struggled with
Speaker 1: good rushing quarterbacks that Jalen hurts his plane at a
Speaker 1: high level. And more than anything, I can see this
Speaker 1: Eagles offensive line mashing this Saints defensive line in the
Speaker 1: running game because I think they can be that good.
Speaker 2: You can push back on me.
Speaker 1: I think they can keep they can move the ball
Speaker 1: on offense, running the ball, and that it's going to
Speaker 1: be more of a game game than the Saints events
Speaker 1: so far.
Speaker 5: Well, speaking of the quarterbacks that can run, Taysom Hill
Speaker 5: d n p at practice Wednesdays, so tight end Patrick Well,
Speaker 5: either way.
Speaker 1: He's a big factor though guys, they kind of dictate,
Speaker 1: they move him all around.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, regardless, having him on the field is probably important. Yes,
Speaker 5: a couple of plays, we'll go from that game to
Speaker 5: another good game, which maybe we wouldn't have thought was
Speaker 5: good a few weeks ago. And that is the Detroit
Speaker 5: Lions a three point favorite on the road in the
Speaker 5: desert against Kyler and company who were all over the Rams.
Speaker 5: On Sunday Chris Meyer's Mark Schlereth on the call, Greg
Speaker 5: Kyler and Marv Junior got it figured out last week.
Speaker 1: They absolutely did. He has been so awesome. I still
Speaker 1: feel bad that I nominated that Derek Carr throw tot
Speaker 1: Shaheed as the throw of the week on our Sunday
Speaker 1: Night recap. Let's watch the angle here in the studio,
Speaker 1: and obviously if you're just listing in your car, just
Speaker 1: just pull over and watch it. Because the figure eight
Speaker 1: that he made before he threw on the run and
Speaker 1: had to throw it kind of behind him and time
Speaker 1: it perfectly to the receiver and then he turns around
Speaker 1: like Steph Crey that that really was the throw of
Speaker 1: the week last week. So I apologized to Kyler Murray,
Speaker 1: what do you think that throw would beat the Anthony
Speaker 1: Richardson throw from week one as the throw of the
Speaker 1: year so far?
Speaker 5: The play itself might beat it the throw of the year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, nobody's doing what Kyler does. But the throw.
Speaker 1: The champion still have the belt, then what a fun test.
Speaker 1: Though this is against the I think a good Lions defense.
Speaker 1: Hutchinson's playing well, owned the Rique's playing well, Brands is
Speaker 1: playing well.
Speaker 2: I think the Lions defense has showed up in these
Speaker 2: two games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the one that's gonna be a little
Speaker 3: bit more of a truth tellers to what the Arizona
Speaker 3: Cardinals are because they are exciting. You know me, I'm
Speaker 3: the world's biggest Kyler Murray fan. Is he on the
Speaker 3: island yet?
Speaker 4: Have we gone back?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that we are debating whether to
Speaker 1: do QB Island next week or the week after.
Speaker 2: We have not gone back to the island.
Speaker 4: Okay, so we gotta get I think he's.
Speaker 2: Going to be on there, it's safe to say.
Speaker 4: But with Derek Carr, who we get fired too.
Speaker 3: But I just think this is where this is the
Speaker 3: week where Detroit, though it's offense gets right. I mean,
Speaker 3: they they've kind of been junked up and truncated. They've
Speaker 3: had some tough games, but I think this is where
Speaker 3: their offense gets right again. I think Kyler's gonna put
Speaker 3: some points upon But I think Jared Goff is going
Speaker 3: to not be throwing.
Speaker 4: Picks like he did last week.
Speaker 1: And to get the Lions question for you, Patrick, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just a little theory I had.
Speaker 4: Okay, least the.
Speaker 1: Last couple weeks or like teams catching up to the Lions,
Speaker 1: just like a little bit. On offense, the run has
Speaker 1: been pretty good, not great. They kind of struggled at
Speaker 1: the end of last week's years. But more than I
Speaker 1: just haven't seen the wide open dudes, and Goff hasn't
Speaker 1: looked quite as comfortable. I've just used to seeing like
Speaker 1: those wide open guys. Maybe I'm over over.
Speaker 5: It's always tough to say, hey, you take away the turnovers,
Speaker 5: because it's the NFL.
Speaker 4: You can't take away the turnovers.
Speaker 5: They doubled up the Bucks in terms of first downs
Speaker 5: rushing almost did it in passing. They doubled up in
Speaker 5: total yards, and they doubled their passing yards as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, but they are okay, I have an answer for
Speaker 1: that though. They are sixteen so far through two games,
Speaker 1: and yards per pass just a basic stat like they've
Speaker 1: been pretty average by their passing metrics. Yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 1: dial up some yards when you go back there fifty
Speaker 1: five times but it hasn't been as easy. I don't
Speaker 1: think for Jared. I think he's had a tougher time
Speaker 1: than I would have expected.
Speaker 5: It certainly has not been as easy. And I think,
Speaker 5: of course they're playing against two teams that they'd just
Speaker 5: beaten the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Good point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of familiarity.
Speaker 5: There, a lot of coming alley in the game plan,
Speaker 5: and now they get to kind of go off of
Speaker 5: that into a different place. I'm confident that this guy's
Speaker 5: and that's a loss where Dan Campbell was already saying
Speaker 5: at halftime, I screwed up.
Speaker 4: I blew that. That's on me.
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna come out and we're not going
Speaker 5: to see jerk Off dropping back forty times. I think
Speaker 5: they are going to pound the rocks and that.
Speaker 3: Cold and one thing, you know, one reason why this
Speaker 3: line's offense is successful is the personnel scheme. Defenses into
Speaker 3: a brain maze ahead of time, like they'll come out
Speaker 3: and run personnel. You know, two running backs, two tight ends,
Speaker 3: and they're throwing at thirty yards down field.
Speaker 4: Well, now teams aren't going for the Oki dok.
Speaker 3: Right, there's some situational things they're probably looking at that
Speaker 3: they're discovering. So Ben Johnson's got to kind of get
Speaker 3: back into the lab a little bit. But I'm with Patrick.
Speaker 3: I just think this is a game of their offense
Speaker 3: kind of finally.
Speaker 4: Get to going.
Speaker 2: Is the over under here is fifty one and a half.
Speaker 2: That's not high enough.
Speaker 1: This is the one game where I'm feeling thirty three
Speaker 1: twenty five something like.
Speaker 4: That up and down the field. That the Cardinals haven't
Speaker 4: played a low scoring game home season.
Speaker 2: No, their offense is legit.
Speaker 3: It's legit, man. I mean the offensive line is playing
Speaker 3: in kyler Is. He's feeling pretty good these days, and
Speaker 3: so points.
Speaker 4: Easy to come by in that one.
Speaker 5: Perhaps not in our next game, that is the Green
Speaker 5: Bay Packers in what would be the Malik Willis revenge
Speaker 5: game against the Tennessee Titans, who are at home favored
Speaker 5: by two and a half. But Greg, we just saw
Speaker 5: video earlier today on Wednesday of Jordan Love on the
Speaker 5: field wearing pads and throwing a pass. I'm not going
Speaker 5: to extrapolate it because I'm not a Twitter doctor. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but he's doing that, so take from there.
Speaker 1: He's limited in practice, and they took it all the
Speaker 1: way to the weekend where Matt Lafleur was leaving the
Speaker 1: door open. They had him questionable initially and then downgraded
Speaker 1: him to doubtful. It's one of those where the coach
Speaker 1: has been publicly saying something and the insiders said something
Speaker 1: quite different initially. Just reading between the lines, I still
Speaker 1: think he's unlikely for this week, and that next week
Speaker 1: might be the one that just reading between like how
Speaker 1: these things sort of go well.
Speaker 3: If mattlef Floor plays it like he did last week,
Speaker 3: where they run it fifty three times, right, Jort can
Speaker 3: hand it off fifty three times. I'm with you against
Speaker 3: this defense which gets after people. I mean, this defense
Speaker 3: I think is a little bit more surprising, and the
Speaker 3: way they've been able to get after the quarterback. I
Speaker 3: would not put him out there. This is a long
Speaker 3: term play. This is a guy you just signed to
Speaker 3: a deal. Patrick, you were talking about.
Speaker 2: They just won a game. They bought themselves a week.
Speaker 4: They bought themselves a week. This is going to be
Speaker 4: a very tough game to me.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be on the Packers defense to keep forcing
Speaker 3: Will Levis to make mistakes. But I would not play
Speaker 3: Jordan Love in this game and let Malik Willis try
Speaker 3: to get revenge because it's a very different Tennessee team.
Speaker 1: To Okay, So Milik Willis last week, obviously it was
Speaker 1: a lot of handoffs, Yeah, but when they asked him
Speaker 1: to make a throw, he was effective, and when he
Speaker 1: ran a few times, he was effective. And I just
Speaker 1: thought it was really an outstanding story, especially after his
Speaker 1: former teammate Taylor Lwan said on a podcast last week
Speaker 1: about Malik Willis that he likes him, good human being,
Speaker 1: but the guy doesn't really know ball unfortunately, and then
Speaker 1: went through that when it comes to checks and cans
Speaker 1: that he's a tough time seeing safety see in the field,
Speaker 1: which I thought was an unfair thing to say because
Speaker 1: he's in the locker room with this kid as a
Speaker 1: rookie coming out of college, when you know he is
Speaker 1: very raw. So I thought it was very telling how
Speaker 1: Matt Lafirre said how impressed he was how quickly Malik
Speaker 1: Willis picked up this offense, that there was only one
Speaker 1: moment in the game that there was any sort of
Speaker 1: communication issue or that he could you know, there was
Speaker 1: an issue of like understanding what was going on there,
Speaker 1: and he expected there to be a lot of it
Speaker 1: and that they installed the game plan and he executed
Speaker 1: it to a tee. But Malik Willis was not taking
Speaker 1: the bait this week. Asked whether he wanted to prove
Speaker 1: the Titans wrong, said I could care less. I got
Speaker 1: paid the whole time I was there. I was more blessed.
Speaker 1: I was more than blessed for the opportunity they gave me.
Speaker 1: They brought me into the league, whether those guys are
Speaker 1: there or not.
Speaker 4: You know, so spoke like a true Liberty Universe.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't survive at Liberty University without being able
Speaker 5: to respond.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 5: Ye, two issues that affect you know, many, many different
Speaker 5: aspects of your life. And I think like in terms
Speaker 5: of because with so much coming in, like oh, he'd
Speaker 5: never thrown for one hundred yards, nobody had ever had
Speaker 5: fifty yards receiving in a game that Elik will have started.
Speaker 5: Those are all out And we now see what it
Speaker 5: looks like when a coaching staff is willing to put
Speaker 5: together a game plan, a thoughtful game plan. It's not
Speaker 5: just oh yeah, it's a backoup quarterback. Okay, let's go
Speaker 5: in and or just let's us.
Speaker 1: Run our normal system when the two players are very different.
Speaker 1: This guy is not Ryan tannel Is, not Jordan Love.
Speaker 1: They made it work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's conceivable.
Speaker 5: And again because Steve mentioned the mistakes at a certain point,
Speaker 5: it's not like Ken will Levis not make these mistakes.
Speaker 5: It's just when is it going to happen? And you'd
Speaker 5: have to think that if it doesn't happen here where
Speaker 5: they're playing against a quarterback that they're very familiar with,
Speaker 5: perhaps uh in Milik Willis, where the defense has been
Speaker 5: so good, if it still happens in this game, it's
Speaker 5: just an inevitability, uh, that he's going to give the
Speaker 5: ball to the other team in some hilarious sequence of
Speaker 5: events like the twenty seventeen Jamis style where it's just yeah.
Speaker 4: That's that's it. I mean, that's that is a very
Speaker 4: good point.
Speaker 2: I mean, just you played pretty well last week.
Speaker 4: I mean other than that point, right, but that but
Speaker 4: that's the think about will Levis. He plays pretty well,
Speaker 4: but if you don't protect the ball, it doesn't mean jack.
Speaker 4: I mean, so I think that's part of it.
Speaker 3: Also, real quick to you, Taylor Lawan on Malik Willis,
Speaker 3: that was a knock on the leak and that's why
Speaker 3: he dropped until the third, So salute to Matt Lafleur
Speaker 3: for devising game plans and strategies to play to a
Speaker 3: guy strengths, and so.
Speaker 2: To him to developing as a pro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and being, like you said, in a system that look,
Speaker 1: it set him up because the run game was so creative.
Speaker 1: Like that's what coaching is, like, you take what you
Speaker 1: have and you take advantage. Jaden Reid is this chess
Speaker 1: piece that they're moving all around and is messing with
Speaker 1: the coverages. You could see Jacobs really getting up the
Speaker 1: middle on plays where they got distracted by what was
Speaker 1: happening with Reed. Meanwhile, Tucker Kraft is out there looking
Speaker 1: like Rob Grenkowski, and then it was pretty awesome. The Titans,
Speaker 1: though they need this game, they're owing to they're going
Speaker 1: up against the defense. It's been pretty blah in terms
Speaker 1: of their pass rush in the Packers, so we'll see.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Interesting side note, Calvin Ridley had those problems with press
Speaker 5: coverage last season. He's got zero yards against press coverage
Speaker 5: this season. He's not seeing the ball when he's in
Speaker 5: press and he's not necessarily getting open. So looking forward
Speaker 5: to that game. Taking us to his time for the
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Speaker 2: Is it hotter? I mean, see, I'm oh, I'm a
Speaker 2: dark human.
Speaker 1: And if they were zero and two, I would be
Speaker 1: on like Michael Pennock's watch, And so that would make it.
Speaker 4: Fil a whole lot of right.
Speaker 1: It would just make it like all the bigger and
Speaker 1: now they've sort of bought themselves some times people would
Speaker 1: understand if they lose this game. I think the Falcons
Speaker 1: have a chance to win this game, because I just
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs they've just been okay so far. I
Speaker 1: know they've won the games, but I think you do
Speaker 1: got to look past that.
Speaker 2: Sometimes. They are eighteenth right now in DVOA.
Speaker 1: That's total team efficiency, twenty second in defense, twelfth in offense,
Speaker 1: asking a lot out of Xavier Worthy now there's no
Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco. You're shorthanded there. Travis Kelce hasn't broken forty
Speaker 1: yards on the season yet, like total, So that's just.
Speaker 2: Something to keep an eye and they make up for it.
Speaker 1: They still have great players, they have Patrick Mahomes, they
Speaker 1: have great coaches, but they they strike me as a
Speaker 1: little bit of one of those Patriots teams coming off
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl wins. That's like, yeah, they'll find their
Speaker 1: ways to wins, but sometimes it's a little bit on
Speaker 1: fumes and this is just not all there yet.
Speaker 4: You nailed it.
Speaker 3: I mean when I saw the three and a half,
Speaker 3: I was like, that almost seems big. Not because I
Speaker 3: think the Falcons are just gonna have an answer for everything,
Speaker 3: but right now they're just kind of getting by. I mean,
Speaker 3: when you knew the Ravens is gonna be a tough game,
Speaker 3: he saw how a challenging of a game that was
Speaker 3: in the Ravens bade some second half adjustments.
Speaker 4: But they're just kind of getting through it.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: The Falcons are feeling a little spicy.
Speaker 3: They're feeling good about themselves because you saw it with
Speaker 3: Bijon Robinson and Tyler Algyear did in that run game.
Speaker 3: That offensive line, you know, the new o c Zach
Speaker 3: Robinson said, Oh, this offensive line is designed to run
Speaker 3: the ball.
Speaker 4: Let's do that.
Speaker 3: Now. That's tough slutting when you're going up against stone
Speaker 3: Cole Jones and Nick Bolton and and you know some
Speaker 3: of the Jew Tranquil and guys like that for Kansas City.
Speaker 3: But they're gonna stick with it. I mean, they're not
Speaker 3: gonna put too much pressure on Kirk Cuttins, especially with
Speaker 3: the way that the Chiefs can dial up some pressures.
Speaker 3: But I think this is going to be a competitive
Speaker 3: ball game. Again, maybe not so much because of what
Speaker 3: the Falcons do, but because it's Chiefs are just kind
Speaker 3: of we're here and there. One one quick thing though,
Speaker 3: the fact that not having Pacheco, that's a good point.
Speaker 3: The Falcons linebackers in that game against the Eagles did
Speaker 3: not play well.
Speaker 4: They did not well.
Speaker 3: They just did not look good. And if you can
Speaker 3: run the ball, if Kareem Hunt can come in and
Speaker 3: remember some of the plays, Kansas didn't get that run
Speaker 3: game going, it is there for the taking, unless all
Speaker 3: of a sudden they sink Simons Jesse Bates, who is
Speaker 3: out of this world in that game Monday Night can
Speaker 3: make a lot of plays.
Speaker 5: Well, Jesse Bates is gonna have to be out of
Speaker 5: this world in this game, because I understand if you're
Speaker 5: asking a lot of worthy as well as maybe Juju
Speaker 5: Smith Schuster. I don't if Patrick Mahomes has the amount
Speaker 5: of time that Jalen Hurts had on Monday.
Speaker 4: Night, good point. I don't I crazy.
Speaker 5: I feel like, don't care great because we're I'm all
Speaker 5: on lou ANIUMO for Russian three on fourth and sixteen,
Speaker 5: and it's like if Mahomes has time, of course, like
Speaker 5: the game goes and the Chiefs are up and down
Speaker 5: every single year, but just watching like the sheer amount of.
Speaker 4: Time that Jalen Hurts could watch.
Speaker 5: The one time that he didn't have time was towards
Speaker 5: the end when he throws that pick looking for Devonte
Speaker 5: Smith because that's that's the only place he was going.
Speaker 5: I just I can't say, Yeah, the number thirty two
Speaker 5: pressure rate defense in the league thirty two, but Patrick, whoa,
Speaker 5: The Chiefs just benched their left tackle right.
Speaker 4: This is not the Eagles offensive line.
Speaker 1: Probably back in this week. But yes, it shows that
Speaker 1: they're I mean, they've got weaknesses.
Speaker 3: Because Judon did play well. He's just gotten he's playing better.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, he played better. He wasn't seless, but
Speaker 3: in terms of pressure, he was the one guy who
Speaker 3: can win.
Speaker 1: Thirty second in pressure rate. Though that is troubling Grady
Speaker 1: Jared's looked. Okay. Onyamada is on my radar because I've
Speaker 1: watched him closely his whole career and he's another one
Speaker 1: of those guys I mentioned Amari Cooper's kind of one
Speaker 1: of the guys. Either it's great or it's just not
Speaker 1: your year with Onyamada, like you think of him as
Speaker 1: a great player. In some years he's great, And there
Speaker 1: were just a couple of those Saints heres where he's
Speaker 1: like where are you man? And that's what it's been
Speaker 1: the first two weeks. I do think that, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Falcons have a chance. So they just have to dot
Speaker 1: you mentioned it. The offensive line just has to dominate.
Speaker 1: If the offensive line matches and protects like they got
Speaker 1: a shot, they got a shot.
Speaker 5: Bijon goes for two twelve two scores. He has a
Speaker 5: Texas line coming up.
Speaker 1: He could He's the best. I'm already ready to put
Speaker 1: him there. He's the best running back in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He's the guy I would want if I just had one.
Speaker 2: Right, this is.
Speaker 4: Reable, This is a reasonable proposition.
Speaker 1: Sake, right, there probably one two in that game, probably
Speaker 1: won two in that game. All Right, we will take
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Speaker 2: Back on NFL Daily. No survivor picks yet, but there.
Speaker 4: Might be one coming up, do you think so? We'll see.
Speaker 2: We're getting to the end of that this show here.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, let's find out if this is the one.
Speaker 5: Because the undefeated Mike McDonald Seattle Seahawks are a four
Speaker 5: and a half point favorite at home as the Miami
Speaker 5: Dolphins will literally fly from the other side of the
Speaker 5: planet h to take them on with h without to
Speaker 5: a tongue of ioloa. Skyler Thompson getting the start for
Speaker 5: the Miami Dolphins. So how do we feel about this?
Speaker 4: First off? Can I get an amen on the survivor pick.
Speaker 2: This is me, guys.
Speaker 3: Okay, oh wow, Seahawks, that's my survivor Okay, yeah.
Speaker 4: I've been hot. You know I've been hot on them all.
Speaker 4: All right, what about you, guys?
Speaker 2: I mean talk a little pick behind the curtain.
Speaker 1: Let's just be real here where we take a break
Speaker 1: and uh, Steve tells the producers, you know, Eric behind
Speaker 1: the glass hide them there too, and you we're gonna
Speaker 1: you're taking your survivor pick now. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: well that was gonna be my survivor pick.
Speaker 4: And I said, oh, I was gonna take Geno and
Speaker 4: company as well.
Speaker 1: And we could be gout less and spread it out,
Speaker 1: or you could just believe in NFL Daily.
Speaker 2: Don't go down with the ship because this is a lock.
Speaker 2: They're winning this game.
Speaker 3: They're winning this game, and if they don't, they we're
Speaker 3: all suckers on here next week. But Skyler Thompson going
Speaker 3: coast to coast, playing in that stadium in front of
Speaker 3: the twelves.
Speaker 1: Right, No, When I look at this matchup, the offensive
Speaker 1: line of the Dolphins going up against the defensive line,
Speaker 1: I think that four and a half is disrespectful.
Speaker 2: I agree, there's there's five or six more games here
Speaker 2: that have a.
Speaker 1: Bigger line, And I don't get it because the Dolphins
Speaker 1: to me, have not played well. Twa tongue ba Lo
Speaker 1: was in that game when he got hurt. They were
Speaker 1: trailing thirty one to ten. I was not impressed. And
Speaker 1: it's not because it's too necessarily or their receivers, but
Speaker 1: the offensive line has really struggled. The defense has its
Speaker 1: share of issues, and the Seattle front Patrick they got
Speaker 1: something going here with the Leonard Williams, Byron Murphy Boye
Speaker 1: maa Mafe trio. That trio is going to create some
Speaker 1: issues this season, and we saw it.
Speaker 5: With Vets in McDonald's last year here in Baltimore, and
Speaker 5: it seems like those circumstances are reproducing themselves as this
Speaker 5: system continues to kind of snuff out opposing offenses, with
Speaker 5: some of that being the schedule a little bit. We're
Speaker 5: gonna find out a little bit more going up against
Speaker 5: this this Dolphins team.
Speaker 4: But are we though?
Speaker 5: Like I do think we can expect some growth from
Speaker 5: Thompson because the last time we saw him was two
Speaker 5: years ago. He's a young guy as well. But it's
Speaker 5: just it's hard to get out this idea of this
Speaker 5: Dolphins offense even struggling with Tua to where he's throwing
Speaker 5: balls to Robbie Chosen, who we love, but he he
Speaker 5: wants runs the wrong route. There's another ball that goes
Speaker 5: no longer, no longer, yeah, which is which is tough
Speaker 5: because he that's where he wanted to be spoke to
Speaker 5: us in the offseason as well.
Speaker 4: It came in in studio, but it's just it's it's
Speaker 4: not working right now.
Speaker 5: And and now they're going up against the team that
Speaker 5: that's on the come up where everything's going right for Seattle.
Speaker 3: This far right, and you know who's one of the fastest,
Speaker 3: if not the fastest dB in the NFL, Treiq Wollen Right, Well,
Speaker 3: so he's he's a bigger guy. He might not be
Speaker 3: able to handle some of the shiftingness, but he's a
Speaker 3: guy with speed who can play Devin Witherspoon can kind
Speaker 3: of help out in some of that shorter catching yak
Speaker 3: stuff that they'd like to do with Jalen Waddle. So
Speaker 3: look raheem moster, it looks like he's coming back, right.
Speaker 3: That's gonna help out eight Chan in the run game.
Speaker 3: So we'll see. But when I look at a Seahawks team.
Speaker 3: To me, they showed a lot last week because Greg,
Speaker 3: we've talked about how good the Patriots defense is going
Speaker 3: to be this year and the fact they had to
Speaker 3: go there and throw it forty four times to win
Speaker 3: a tough game against that defense on the road, cross country,
Speaker 3: and they did it. It goes to show me, you know,
Speaker 3: we see the playmakers. We're looking at DK metcalf on
Speaker 3: that big TD play against the Patriots. I just think
Speaker 3: that they're going to be able to put up some points.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be it could be a fairly tough game.
Speaker 3: You know, let's just give the Dolphins defense a little credit.
Speaker 3: But the four and a half does seem like a
Speaker 3: small number for me.
Speaker 1: And I know it's just two weeks and that includes
Speaker 1: a quarter and a half without to it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Dolphins offense twenty seventh this year overall in DVOA twenty six,
Speaker 1: running the ball the O line.
Speaker 2: In the past, it was like, Okay, they're banged up.
Speaker 1: In toront Armstead's day to day McDaniel actually said he's
Speaker 1: not overly concerned, which I'm surprised by, Like I would
Speaker 1: always be overly concerned about Toron Armstead, especially when he
Speaker 1: just left the game. By the way, I just don't
Speaker 1: know why I'm thinking about this right now, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to say it. My son was at a Yakult
Speaker 1: Swallows baseball game in Tokyo. I love it, and on
Speaker 1: the loud speaker they were playing at Tehron armstead rap
Speaker 1: song from the Madden soundtrack, and I'm just saying, that's impressive.
Speaker 1: Toront Armstead has gone like international as a rapper, so
Speaker 1: like he's a Walter Payton Man of the Year type
Speaker 1: of guy. He's a great player, and he's got his
Speaker 1: rap songs being played in Japan. Oh and somehow Walker
Speaker 1: knew the song. He's like, yeah, I heard Tron Armstead song.
Speaker 3: That is a major come up from from Kahoki, Illinois,
Speaker 3: right outside of Saint Louis.
Speaker 4: Well done. He's worldwide. Give him the os worldwide.
Speaker 1: I completely forgot whatever point I was actually making. But yeah,
Speaker 1: their run game has been bad. Tron arms said good,
Speaker 1: but the run game is bad.
Speaker 5: They needed to be good and we'll see if they
Speaker 5: can overcome one of the big spreads of the week,
Speaker 5: the next biggest as we go to the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 5: playing hosts to the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Bills favored by
Speaker 5: five against a number twenty rngth passing efficiency offense seventeenth
Speaker 5: rushing efficiency. They haven't been able to figure things out.
Speaker 5: When they have Steve, they've made crucial mistake. What can
Speaker 5: the Jags do to win this.
Speaker 3: This is a big number for me because I know
Speaker 3: the Bills have looked unbeatable. The Jags are desperate. I
Speaker 3: think the Jacks come out play a good game. This
Speaker 3: game with Trevor Lawrence can limits the giveaways. I mean,
Speaker 3: look at the numbers. Last week, was he fourteen for thirty?
Speaker 3: I mean, do you talk about hit or miss?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: He was playing against a very good Browns defense. But
Speaker 3: now this is where he's got to earn his money,
Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna show up. I think they're
Speaker 3: going to have a good game plan. I don't know
Speaker 3: if they win this game, but at five looks like
Speaker 3: a big number for me. I do think they're gonna
Speaker 3: be able to run the ball a little bit. You
Speaker 3: can't ask Trevor to put that ball up, you know,
Speaker 3: thirty five times a game. They're going to have to
Speaker 3: run the ball. But I think Jacksonville is going to
Speaker 3: give the Bills a very, very tough game here.
Speaker 1: I look at Trevor, who's thirty first in the NFL
Speaker 1: and completion percentage over expected. They were one to four
Speaker 1: in the red zone last year and last week rather
Speaker 1: which has been a problem. So suddenly you're having problems
Speaker 1: that are recurring. It's year three with Doug Peterson. There's
Speaker 1: some real frustration Trevor Lawrence saying he sucks.
Speaker 2: Tug.
Speaker 1: Peterson seemed pretty downcast after that game. You're not really
Speaker 1: used to that. They're twenty six in the league in
Speaker 1: terms of quick pressure. So the offensive lines not playing
Speaker 1: well in multiple ways. I think they're twenty ninth and
Speaker 1: something like contact before getting hit. Their running backs are
Speaker 1: actually playing well and having a lot of yards after carry.
Speaker 1: But so that's again it's another team where it's the
Speaker 1: line and it's going up against like a reborn.
Speaker 2: Bill's line with Vod Miller's playing well, Greg Russo's playing well.
Speaker 2: Oliver played well in that game, so.
Speaker 4: Vanessa, that's huge.
Speaker 5: And it's this version of safety Josh that we've seen
Speaker 5: where he's not taking the big risk, mainly because the
Speaker 5: offense is structured differently. The volume of receivers out on
Speaker 5: the field just isn't the same where he's taking deep
Speaker 5: shots down the field and putting the ball in dangerous situations.
Speaker 4: He's been very careful with the football. He's distributed the
Speaker 4: ball very well.
Speaker 5: He did have that one Yeolo Josh run where he
Speaker 5: hurt his hand, but fortunately it got a week after.
Speaker 5: The Dolphins really didn't have a lot to offer against
Speaker 5: the Bills on Thursday night, and then you know Ta
Speaker 5: gets hurt as well, so not a lot of pressure
Speaker 5: to make him deal with that. And here comes the
Speaker 5: struggling Jags scene where the Bills might just march on
Speaker 5: to three and O.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know the one thing I do like about the Bills,
Speaker 3: and we all knew coming in because of what they
Speaker 3: did at wide retiever they were going to be a
Speaker 3: tight end centric team and do some things with James Cook.
Speaker 4: They have done that.
Speaker 3: Plus, I mean they have accentuated a two tight end look.
Speaker 3: James Cook has been absolutely fantastic. Now there's two games
Speaker 3: of film on that, all right. Is Joe Brady gonna
Speaker 3: continue to be because he's always been known as a
Speaker 3: great play schemer. It was a play calling that was
Speaker 3: something he had to learn.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 3: He looks like he's learned his butt off in terms
Speaker 3: of calling a great game. And I think this is
Speaker 3: gonna be a good challenge for him because we do
Speaker 3: you know, the Jags d front. They've got some talent
Speaker 3: there and they've got some linebackers who can run and
Speaker 3: not let James Cook get runs like good runs off
Speaker 3: like this. So again, I think it's going to be
Speaker 3: a really really good challenge. But you know, salute to
Speaker 3: Joe Brady with those guys are doing up there with
Speaker 3: that two tight end look offense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think the Jacks offense has been
Speaker 1: their issue. They've scored thirty points on offense through two weeks,
Speaker 1: I believe, and so you know that's been the issue.
Speaker 1: And they are playing though a couple rookies or young
Speaker 1: players rather in the secondary. Jerry and Jones is a
Speaker 1: rookie and then Buster Brown is a young player because
Speaker 1: they're without Darnell Savage at least last week they were
Speaker 1: who's their nickelback, and they're without the best cornerback, Tyson Campbell,
Speaker 1: So that that worries me. Going against a pretty diverse
Speaker 1: passing attack with the Bills. I like this Bills team.
Speaker 1: They were my Super Bowl team.
Speaker 4: They are good.
Speaker 1: They could change their game plan week to week. I
Speaker 1: noticed that in the Miami game. No blitz and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's what you get with a veteran team, a veteran coach.
Speaker 1: Like they're a little People say, oh, it's the preseason.
Speaker 1: It's extended preseason team like the Bills, a veteran team
Speaker 1: maybe are a little more ready.
Speaker 4: Five points feels like a little a bit much.
Speaker 5: I would feel more comfortable in another spot where the
Speaker 5: Jags ro and two, but they were in.
Speaker 4: They were in both of those games, and we're kind
Speaker 4: of fun.
Speaker 2: This is the early Monday night game.
Speaker 1: We should point out, Yes, Chris Fowler or Lavski and
Speaker 1: Riddick action, we're back to the double headers. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about the doubleheaders?
Speaker 4: Guys love it? I love it. You don't like it? Patrick?
Speaker 4: I support every decision the night.
Speaker 5: Here's, here's and again exceedingly diplomatic because again I support
Speaker 5: and carry the shield and we'll stand in front of
Speaker 5: it and take whatever fire.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I like the afternoon slate on Sundays. It's where it's
Speaker 5: where our work, we do Game day Live. I don't
Speaker 5: like losing a game. Wow from the afternoon on Sunday,
Speaker 5: because sometimes we run into a situation where we get
Speaker 5: the Cowboys in the Saints and people are out there
Speaker 5: looking for a game to watch.
Speaker 4: Sure, and the game might not.
Speaker 1: Where's Jack's bills? It's on Monday night early. The only
Speaker 1: issue I have is just don't why put them at
Speaker 1: the same time. Let's go back to back. You can
Speaker 1: deal with whatever little ratings hit you have for starting
Speaker 1: it at five thirty or I don't care, You'll get plenty.
Speaker 2: It's an NFL game.
Speaker 1: Go back to back and have about fifteen minutes in
Speaker 1: between for everyone to get a beverage.
Speaker 3: Wait, I know you stand behind the shield. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: step in front of it and want to take a
Speaker 3: big hit because you know how they're going to compute
Speaker 3: the numbers.
Speaker 4: Oh, THEOK combine not right? For Monday night?
Speaker 3: Are gonna be seventy eight million viewers on all platforms
Speaker 3: with these two games?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: Because and then too many people miss the game because
Speaker 1: they're watching one or the other. Titans Dolphins last year
Speaker 1: was the perfect example. That was one of the most
Speaker 1: astounding football game I have ever seen, and most people
Speaker 1: didn't see it because they thought the game was over
Speaker 1: and they're too busy watching Tommy Cutlets over.
Speaker 2: There on ABC.
Speaker 4: Picture and Picture guy.
Speaker 1: I was downstairs to you know, working for a Channel
Speaker 1: five shout out to the UK audience, but yes, if I.
Speaker 5: Could get TV manufacturers to understand that we've been in
Speaker 5: sixteen by nine by over a decade now, we got
Speaker 5: to figure out a picture and picture that serves both parties.
Speaker 5: In the picture of picture, I'll hop off my floatbox
Speaker 5: and we'll go to the return of the line himself,
Speaker 5: Andy Dalton starting for the Carolina Panthers at the Las
Speaker 5: Vegas Raiders, who were favored by five and a half points.
Speaker 5: Dave Canalis was emphatic he is not making quarterback change.
Speaker 5: He believes in Bryce. Less than twenty four hours later,
Speaker 5: Bryce Young going to the bench in favor of the
Speaker 5: veteran Andy Dalton and the Raiders and Gardner Minshew coming
Speaker 5: off a big win in Baltimore over the Ravens greg
Speaker 5: five and a half points.
Speaker 4: Feel comfortable there.
Speaker 2: No, you know, Andy Dalton. I love you, man, I
Speaker 2: love that.
Speaker 1: I love that your court side at the US Open,
Speaker 1: just chilling the weekend before the season starts. I love
Speaker 1: that our great friend Chris Westling came up with the
Speaker 1: Dalton scale ten plus years ago now that if you
Speaker 1: have a quarterback better than Anti Dalton, you have a
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, and if you don't, then you need a
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. And that is the Dalton scale. And here
Speaker 1: we are in twenty twenty four in the studio named
Speaker 1: for Chris and it's still true. He's still that guy.
Speaker 1: You need a solid starter, a veteran to come in
Speaker 1: and just be average, to be your version of Gardner Minshew.
Speaker 2: Andy Dalton to do that for you.
Speaker 1: As long as he stays healthy, I would take him
Speaker 1: over Gardner Minshew, he.
Speaker 4: Would do that for you. With those Bengals teams he
Speaker 4: played on, I feel bad for him playing.
Speaker 1: He looked pretty good when he played for the Panthers
Speaker 1: last year with a shootout one game.
Speaker 4: But it was a shoot last year, Okay last year.
Speaker 3: Right now, he's wishing he was Ryan Tannehill, who was
Speaker 3: publicly said a few times times, I am only going
Speaker 3: to expose my body to the right situation, Ryan Tannehill,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The red rifle.
Speaker 7: Andy Dalton, you know, think he wants to play a
Speaker 7: little football again. Maybe, but behind these guys, look I watched.
Speaker 7: I was at that Raiders Ravens game. That Raiders defense
Speaker 7: is real. Patrick Graham has some real dudes, and he
Speaker 7: is coming up with some creative schemes. Getting an athletic
Speaker 7: d tackle like Christian Wilkins has allowed him to run
Speaker 7: a ton of games up front. Max Crosby not just
Speaker 7: winning coming off the edge. You saw him duck under.
Speaker 7: They were doing some great twist and stunts up there.
Speaker 7: And we have seen that the Carolina Panthers have looked
Speaker 7: at that there's one right there. We have seen the
Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers have not been able to block anyone. Greg,
Speaker 7: you and me are gonna combo for at least a
Speaker 7: half sack against that front.
Speaker 2: I think I would struggle to get off my block
Speaker 2: off the ground.
Speaker 4: I mean, I look this.
Speaker 3: The Carolina Panthers are a hot mess. Is much as
Speaker 3: we could blame it on Bryce and he has not
Speaker 3: played well.
Speaker 4: He has earned not.
Speaker 3: Playing, but not everything he's been exposed to this against
Speaker 3: this defense, that five and a half number is small.
Speaker 3: I think I think the Raiders defense might get a
Speaker 3: score too.
Speaker 1: That's fair. J Davin Clowney, you mentioned coming off an
Speaker 1: injury did not have any impact in that game. No
Speaker 1: quarterback hits. So far the scene, jac Horn has showed
Speaker 1: up made some big plays. The Raiders are a really
Speaker 1: weird offense, Patrick. They only have two first downs rushing
Speaker 1: on the season. They're averaging two point five yards per carry.
Speaker 1: That would obviously be the worst rushing team in the
Speaker 1: history of football. And yet brock Bauers looks like, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe already the best tight end.
Speaker 4: In the league. You can make real deal.
Speaker 2: And Gardner Minshew is in the top three.
Speaker 1: I could not believe this on intermedia and deep throws
Speaker 1: this year, he's in the top three in every metric.
Speaker 1: Now he hasn't thrown that many, but when he's thrown them,
Speaker 1: they've been very effective, a lot of them.
Speaker 5: And shout out to Josh Norris were pointing out the
Speaker 5: particular route that brock Bowers is running a ton right now.
Speaker 5: He's dragging across the middle and then using that speed
Speaker 5: and versatility to come back out to the outside where
Speaker 5: nobody is. And so now you're in a bind where
Speaker 5: you're having to defend Brockbowers literally fifty yards all across
Speaker 5: the field, as well as DeVante Adams behind that. I
Speaker 5: don't know when they figure out the run game in
Speaker 5: Zamir White and how that goes. I don't think winning
Speaker 5: the game is going to be a question here because
Speaker 5: even right which is apparently reck conning the greatest start
Speaker 5: of all time by Andy Dalton two years ago in
Speaker 5: Seattle where they lose the football game anyway, and he
Speaker 5: throws the ball fifty eight times for three hundred and
Speaker 5: sixty one yards, I just all love to Andy Dalton.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm not seeing it with this Carolina Panthers. Oh,
Speaker 5: I feel so bad, but maybe you know, the offensive
Speaker 5: genius of Dave Canalis shows something to me. It improves
Speaker 5: that why is he's in this position in the first
Speaker 5: when they.
Speaker 3: Show this game, can you imagine the cutaways to Pribace
Speaker 3: young on the sidelines. I mean, they're going to be
Speaker 3: living on those cutaways just to see him.
Speaker 2: Let's go and look, he's their backup.
Speaker 1: And Andy Dalton has has has struggled the difference between
Speaker 1: young Andy Dalton and older any Olton that I've been
Speaker 1: able to tell us that he just can't stay on
Speaker 1: the field lately.
Speaker 2: He's been getting hurt pretty quickly when.
Speaker 3: He number ninety eight Max Crosby, who is who's arguably
Speaker 3: playing better than anybody in the NFL. Uh is coming Sunday,
Speaker 3: which which is bananas because he still doesn't come off
Speaker 3: the field. No, it was bananas a couple of years
Speaker 3: ago when we're talking about mac crosby playing every single snap.
Speaker 5: He's still doing it, which is a certa. But like,
Speaker 5: what do you even say he's at that point? I
Speaker 5: would you even say? I just don't know. I feel
Speaker 5: bad Brandy Tallton this week, man, we'll see. We'll see
Speaker 5: Andy show, US show US, Dave show, US Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 5: Let's go to the New York Giants who had a tough,
Speaker 5: heartbreaking loss. Perhaps they figured out, uh, if they're going
Speaker 5: to have a kicker and if they're going to have
Speaker 5: that kick the football at the Cleveland Browns, who are
Speaker 5: favored by six and a half.
Speaker 4: Wow, over is not a big number. Thirty eight and
Speaker 4: a half. There's gonna be enough points to get there.
Speaker 1: Greg probably not, but the Giants defense is involved and
Speaker 1: it got it passed. Meant my notice that they did
Speaker 1: not have a stop last Sunday that the Washington Commanders,
Speaker 1: Now they didn't score touchdown, I get it, but they
Speaker 1: got the ball and they scored every single time they
Speaker 1: got the ball.
Speaker 2: That that does not happen too often. That is insane.
Speaker 1: They're not doing anything well, like the big defensive line
Speaker 1: up front, they're not really doing much, and then they
Speaker 1: kind of play this soft zone where they allow a
Speaker 1: lot of short passes. Their their run game, in terms
Speaker 1: of their defense, has not been good. Their defensive backs
Speaker 1: are getting put in position where they have to make
Speaker 1: tackles and they're not making tackles. And I just think
Speaker 1: Stefanski will be good enough like you, and the run
Speaker 1: game will be good enough. You could see it against
Speaker 1: Jacksonville when they were in that first fifteen script. Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson looked very comfortable. They knew what they were doing.
Speaker 1: They were all instinct. The rest of the game wasn't
Speaker 1: so great. He weirdly just doesn't look that athletic anymore
Speaker 1: and his arms looks a little weird, but it was enough.
Speaker 2: He was much better in week two.
Speaker 1: If they can get that version of Deshaun Watson, which
Speaker 1: is just like good enough, they can score on the Giants.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's wasn't that a crazy game?
Speaker 3: I mean they score three touchdowns, they don't get any
Speaker 3: padies and then Washington because Jayden Daniels is getting every
Speaker 3: third nineteen and running for first downs over and over
Speaker 3: wins by getting what.
Speaker 1: Eight Sometimes they were just hitting like these like short
Speaker 1: passes and then running for it, like come on, it's.
Speaker 5: Almost the game directly decided upstairs before the game. One
Speaker 5: team has a kicker problem. They go sign a kicker.
Speaker 5: He comes in that week and hits seven field goals.
Speaker 5: The other teams makes a decision to have the punter
Speaker 5: kick extra points and field goals. He misses one, and
Speaker 5: then they pun on that plan literally figuratively, and and
Speaker 5: it's just all over and they lose the game because
Speaker 5: because they can't do one or the other.
Speaker 1: I do have something positive to say about the Giants
Speaker 1: have this Okay, We've been talking on this on the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast and then now on on NFL
Speaker 1: Daily that the Giants offensive line has never once been
Speaker 1: good since I've covered the NFL. Maybe I guess back,
Speaker 1: you know, and Eli Manning it was great, but I
Speaker 1: mean in the in the like caught the late Cofughlin
Speaker 1: to now era, the offensive line has not been their
Speaker 1: issue the first two weeks. This will be a much
Speaker 1: tougher test but by the metrics, by the eye test. Actually,
Speaker 1: they've been quite good through two weeks, and their offense
Speaker 1: was fine against Washington. Now it was a much, much,
Speaker 1: much tougher matchup. I don't know if the offense can
Speaker 1: continue to be Hey, ask on the sideline to Maleak Neighbors,
Speaker 1: what plays do you like? That's what Brian Dealey do
Speaker 1: and then and then doing them that'll work against Washington.
Speaker 2: I think you just need more. You need more than
Speaker 2: just that he's special.
Speaker 5: And then over on the other side, right, because offensive
Speaker 5: line issues have been a problem for Cleveland as well,
Speaker 5: who have not had their starting tackles at any point.
Speaker 5: Aren't they coming back though, haven't even practicing And we'll see. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think Jack Conklin Okay, I'm gonna have to say.
Speaker 1: I think they're both back, but Dwan Jones was not,
Speaker 1: so now we'll see that. I think they're hopeful. Maybe
Speaker 1: they might get their tackles back this week. Yeah, their
Speaker 1: original starters.
Speaker 5: I think one thing, and it comes from another game
Speaker 5: on Monday night where I saw Eagles fans talking about
Speaker 5: Jaylen losing a step before he had those big rushes,
Speaker 5: and the difference to me was the decisiveness on that.
Speaker 5: When Jalen was decisive, he put his foot in the
Speaker 5: ground and he was getting upfield.
Speaker 4: He was getting a lot of yardage.
Speaker 5: We haven't seen a decisive Deshaun Watson other than like Greg,
Speaker 5: you mentioned those those scripted players. They get things get
Speaker 5: in the second half and they get weird. He starts
Speaker 5: bouncing with the football. Some of that's probably not having
Speaker 5: the tackles. Some of that is just him regressing as
Speaker 5: a football player. I think we'll learn something a little
Speaker 5: bit if they can get those tackles real quick.
Speaker 3: Do you think he's an opportunity? Him and a Marik
Speaker 3: Cooper have not hit it off so far these first
Speaker 3: two games. Is this a game where the they foresheet
Speaker 3: him again early?
Speaker 4: I think this is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, You're going up against Cordell flat and no known
Speaker 1: na Joku Dori Jackson knowing Djoku that this this Giants
Speaker 1: team just isn't isn't very talented, and the defensively, I
Speaker 1: think they've been left wanty. I think they were hoping
Speaker 1: to be better defensively and so far they haven't been
Speaker 1: any better on defense.
Speaker 3: Just don't ask Brian Dable about his job security. Greg,
Speaker 3: He's gonna tear you down. Well, elite neighbors has job security,
Speaker 3: Yes he does.
Speaker 5: If we want to be positive about the New York Giants,
Speaker 5: protect that man at all costs less. One day, the
Speaker 5: biggest win of the week, like it was this week
Speaker 5: for the Giants, was celebrating somebody else dropping a football
Speaker 5: on Monday Night Football, where the entire Giants beat is
Speaker 5: talking about Saquan.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they can get something to enjoy out here
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 5: Greg, Maybe maybe next game the Denver Broncos at m
Speaker 5: VP candidate Greg Baker Mayfield the Tampa Bay Buccaneers six
Speaker 5: and a half point favorites at the big Pirate ship
Speaker 5: down there in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 4: Greg, you scoff at the idea, I do.
Speaker 5: If they've voted today, would Baker Mayfield not be the
Speaker 5: most Valuable player in the National Football I don't know.
Speaker 1: I haven't thought that through. I'm not in favor of
Speaker 1: MVP talk before week seven. Oh, I'm giving it to Kyler.
Speaker 2: How about that?
Speaker 4: I thought it might be Kmara josh Allen. Maybe Kamara
Speaker 4: Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: Camara would be fun.
Speaker 1: You're right, though, when Baker Mayfield is like the best
Speaker 1: runner on the team, you know things are going crazy.
Speaker 1: I yeah, I guess I'll pose this question to you guys, like,
Speaker 1: do you think Baker is just more athletic now or
Speaker 1: is he just like on a heater because he actually is.
Speaker 1: The thing people would get on him for is like
Speaker 1: he would try to make plays in the pros that
Speaker 1: he would try to make in college. But it's like,
Speaker 1: you can't do that in the pros. But the last
Speaker 1: weeks he kind of has been doing that in the pros.
Speaker 4: Greg, sounds like you're insinuating he's on some special gatorade.
Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying is he
Speaker 1: on a hot streaker? Is he legitimately just better that
Speaker 1: now he can be like creator Baker?
Speaker 3: Hey, look, man's he looks fantastic. His offensive line is
Speaker 3: playing well. I just think he's having fun and seeing
Speaker 3: the game better.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: He knows when to use whatever athleticism he has to
Speaker 3: his advantage. But I just think he's playing with supreme confidence.
Speaker 3: We know he is a talented player, right, He's a
Speaker 3: football player too. He's got that in him. He's got
Speaker 3: something to him and the way his teammates respond to him,
Speaker 3: that's such a big part in playing that position. Those
Speaker 3: guys clearly like playing with him and they believe in him.
Speaker 3: So knowing that your teammates have your back, it's got
Speaker 3: something he is. He'sn't playing fantastic and this game for
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, the six and a half seems a little
Speaker 3: wide to me, even though they're at.
Speaker 4: Home playing a Denver team. Poor Bo Nicks.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's baptism by fire all these defenses he's
Speaker 3: had to play, coming off of playing the Steelers, now
Speaker 3: coming into a game where Todd Bowles is going to
Speaker 3: show him seventy five different looks, It's going to be
Speaker 3: a challenge, But I think this is going to be
Speaker 3: a tighter game at what we expect. When I see
Speaker 3: this over under at forty, I think that's probably about
Speaker 3: the perfect spot.
Speaker 5: It's just a question of how many points to the
Speaker 5: Broncos that offer into that equation. Because we've talked now
Speaker 5: for two weeks, Greg, Yeah, about the depth of target
Speaker 5: for bow Knicks. The weird NFL prost that came up
Speaker 5: to me. He has the deepest dropback depth in the
Speaker 5: NFL right now. He's nine point one yards behind the
Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. And so you take Bo Nix's difficulty
Speaker 5: getting the ball down the field and make the fact
Speaker 5: that he's he's actually even throwing the ball farther does he.
Speaker 4: Have a negative plus minus?
Speaker 2: It's right well, and that puts your tackles in a
Speaker 2: bad spot.
Speaker 4: Hate it now.
Speaker 1: Garrett Bowles is coming off of an injury and hasn't
Speaker 1: maybe been at his normal form, and they they lost
Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey.
Speaker 2: He is out I believe about a month their right tackle.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you do wonder if Sean Payton just doesn't
Speaker 1: have it anymore, because the one thing you always knew
Speaker 1: about Sean Payton teams is they were going to block
Speaker 1: better than you expect they were, and they were gonna
Speaker 1: have a running game. That was always a secret sauce.
Speaker 1: And actually the Broncos last year I thought did that
Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't have thought they would have been a
Speaker 1: good offensive line.
Speaker 2: They were.
Speaker 1: This couple weeks, they've they've looked a little broken and
Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's Nicks. But this is a tricky matchup
Speaker 1: because of the scheme. On the other hand, Klijah Kansi
Speaker 1: has been out for the last couple of weeks. Vita
Speaker 1: Vea's out of practice Wednesday, We've talked about Winfield. They're
Speaker 1: shorthanded in the secondary, so there are a lot of
Speaker 1: injuries for the Bucks who are getting great play by
Speaker 1: the way by Zion McCollums.
Speaker 2: So that's good internal scouting. You trade away Carlton Davis.
Speaker 1: People were like, really you're gonna start Zion McCollum, and
Speaker 1: he's looked really good.
Speaker 3: Well again and Todd Bowles he gets off the bus blitzing.
Speaker 3: I mean that that whole expression. Bo Nix's going to
Speaker 3: see a lot of looks. Now, something Sean Payton is
Speaker 3: unfamiliar with. With Bowennix taking that deep drop. Maybe Drew
Speaker 3: Brees did it, but the one thing Drew Brees did
Speaker 3: would climb the pocket six yards. I mean that might
Speaker 3: be something Bowenix has to do because Sean Payton would
Speaker 3: build his offensive lines guard center guard instead of with
Speaker 3: the tackles, and that's something they've just got to get
Speaker 3: better at.
Speaker 1: I want to continue this Baker talk at some point,
Speaker 1: because yeah, it did start.
Speaker 4: He's not on the island either.
Speaker 1: Started to occur to me though, is he gonna he
Speaker 1: is trending towards more of a Jared Goff type career
Speaker 1: than like a Jacoby Brissette type of career and I'm dangerous,
Speaker 1: that's right. I Mean, he got a nice contract, but
Speaker 1: he kind of got the he kind of got the
Speaker 1: geno in between this first contract. But if he's really
Speaker 1: Jared Goff and having that kind of career like after
Speaker 1: this year or the next like and then he gets
Speaker 1: another big, one fifty three million year, we will we
Speaker 1: will see. Also keep an eye on Patrick Certan, who
Speaker 1: has traveled with the teams opposing best wide receiver in
Speaker 1: both games against Mike Evans. That's a fun matchup. This
Speaker 1: Broncos team has been blitzing like crazy. Actually more than
Speaker 1: the Bucks, more than any team in the NFL. The
Speaker 1: Broncos have been blitzing. We will take one final break,
Speaker 1: and yes we'll talk about the NFC champions from a
Speaker 1: few years ago and last year and the AFC champions
Speaker 1: from a few years ago ago. Back on NFL Daily,
Speaker 1: starting with a NFC West game. That was the NFC
Speaker 1: championship a few years back, and we thought maybe it'd
Speaker 1: be a potential one this year. Meanwhile, on Wednesday's NFL Daily,
Speaker 1: Jordan rod Rieg of The Athletic our Friend was saying, yeah,
Speaker 1: the real battle might be with the Cardinals and the
Speaker 1: Seahawks in this division that's getting a little over our skis.
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to the forty nine, I.
Speaker 5: Don't know that it is Greg Wow, everybody's getting hurt
Speaker 5: this right, game is between two teams who are dealing
Speaker 5: with the litton any of injuries. Yes, it is the
Speaker 5: San Francisco forty nine Ers who are a seven point
Speaker 5: favorite at SOFI Stadium against the Los Angeles Rams. Gonna
Speaker 5: be a Fox game with Adam I Mean and Mark
Speaker 5: Sanchez on the call. The Rams decimated by injuries, Steve,
Speaker 5: they could not stay on the field with the Arizona
Speaker 5: Cardinals last week. And over on the other side, this
Speaker 5: is a forty nine Ers team that without Deebo Samuel
Speaker 5: takes a significant drop off.
Speaker 3: I see he seems a significant drop off. This is
Speaker 3: the Brandon Ayuk breakthrough game, right. Brandon Ayuk's been quiet
Speaker 3: the first two weeks. This is his game because the
Speaker 3: Rams defense is battered, right, we talk about energies on
Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. They you know, in the secondary,
Speaker 3: they're banged up. They're not getting a ton of pass rush.
Speaker 3: I think this is where Ayuk really gets his Jordan
Speaker 3: Mason's gonna continue to run the ball. I think the offense, yes,
Speaker 3: you're gonna miss Deebo Shami. You can scheme up everything
Speaker 3: you want, but just this is personnel personnel, and I
Speaker 3: think that's where you know, the forty nine ers are
Speaker 3: defense's best. And then defensively for the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 3: this is where they could eat. I mean, Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 3: he's going to be feeling it. Bosa Floyd and you
Speaker 3: talked about your MVP, we talk about Baker. Maybe, Fred
Speaker 3: Warner and Max Crosby to me have been playing better
Speaker 3: than any players in the NFL.
Speaker 4: I just can't see how the Rams are going to
Speaker 4: get to the end zone.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine Fred Warner improving because I think
Speaker 1: he's on a Hall of Fame trajectory, and yet he
Speaker 1: seems to be at another level these last two games.
Speaker 2: Is as good as a linebacker can play.
Speaker 1: That's the thing with the forty nine ers, like, yes,
Speaker 1: they're missing really important pieces that they probably can't get
Speaker 1: to where they want to go without having most of
Speaker 1: them back. On the other hand, they still have more
Speaker 1: talent than I would say twenty seven teams in the
Speaker 1: league with the talent that is remaining on both sides.
Speaker 2: Compare that to the Rams, where.
Speaker 1: Yeah they're twenty eighth in DVOA right now, twenty ninth
Speaker 1: in defense, where the defense really hasn't been that injured.
Speaker 1: I know they lost John Johnson their safety week, but
Speaker 1: most of those, almost all the injuries has been on
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football, where they're just decimated
Speaker 1: and they're just not they're not good enough. They do
Speaker 1: get Alec Jackson back from suspension, who's their left tackle,
Speaker 1: But it's kind of an organizational gut check type of
Speaker 1: game because that was embarrassing a week ago. It's your
Speaker 1: home opener against your biggest rival. I tend to think
Speaker 1: that they're going to show up in this game and
Speaker 1: give it a great effort and a representative game where
Speaker 1: it's going to be a close game. These games, even
Speaker 1: when the Rams were really bad a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: early in the season when they were struggling, they showed
Speaker 1: up for these forty nine ers games and made them close.
Speaker 2: Then they would lose. But I have a feeling that
Speaker 2: that will happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're making it close and lose part plays into it.
Speaker 5: It's just very because I'm looking at last season with him,
Speaker 5: without Cooper Cup, Matthew Stafford's pass or numbers rating wise
Speaker 5: drop twenty three points. You take a cup off the field,
Speaker 5: that happens instantaneously. Now they have to do it with
Speaker 5: no Cup and no Puka. With all the issues that
Speaker 5: they're facing up front on the offensive line, the defense
Speaker 5: is worse. Other than some promising guys up front.
Speaker 1: To believe it, I just you say, by the way
Speaker 1: Ayuk season, I say, Juwan Jennings season, boom sticks.
Speaker 3: And we know this is also going to be a
Speaker 3: road game for the Rams, even though they're playing it
Speaker 3: so far, there will be fifty thousand Niners fans in
Speaker 3: that stadium. They take over stadiums, and especially.
Speaker 1: So far, it's it's it has potential to get dark fast,
Speaker 1: and it makes you wonder bigger questions about this This
Speaker 1: Rams team.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is real interesting.
Speaker 1: When they get we will see We'll see.
Speaker 5: In defensive because I know people here ste'se point, which
Speaker 5: is true. Uh didn't have football here in Los Angeles
Speaker 5: tract for a very long time. San Francisco was good
Speaker 5: for a very long time. There are a lot of Rams,
Speaker 5: There are a lot of Niners fans that don't have
Speaker 5: to travel, right they live, they live down the street.
Speaker 4: They just walk up to the game like the home team.
Speaker 3: Let's take the next closest team while an Explosia team
Speaker 3: because its Charger with Shan Diego list follow forty nine
Speaker 3: ers and that's what they've done.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a rough spot for some fans for
Speaker 5: a long time. Speaking of fans who were in a
Speaker 5: rough spot for a very long time, the Washington Commanders
Speaker 5: and the second Monday night football game coming up. Joe
Speaker 5: Bucken Troy Aikman will be on that game. Are seven
Speaker 5: and a half point dogs at the winless Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 2: Talk about disrespect struggled early.
Speaker 4: On in the season. Come on, is what did Jayden
Speaker 4: and company have to do? Greg?
Speaker 1: Get some And yet I this will not be one
Speaker 1: of my three games that I pick Man versus Model
Speaker 1: Me versus Cynthia that that show is going to go
Speaker 1: up a Friday afternoon. But if I had to choose
Speaker 1: this one and this little preview for our show on
Speaker 1: NFL Network Game to View, I would take the Bengals
Speaker 1: still to win by like ten, because they need this
Speaker 1: so bad and I do think they're that much better
Speaker 1: that The one route that the Commanders have is that
Speaker 1: their backfield of Brian Robbinson and Ekeeler have been one
Speaker 1: of my most pleasant surprises of the entire season. Cliff
Speaker 1: Kingsbury's always been able to scheme up a run game.
Speaker 1: I think that's his biggest strength in the NFL and
Speaker 1: has gotten his offensive lines to play pretty cohesive at
Speaker 1: the NFL level. And they're playing well, but I'm giving
Speaker 1: more credit to the running backs. So they're breaking tackles,
Speaker 1: they're making moves. I have never seen Brian Robinson play
Speaker 1: this well. He's been outstanding. And Ekeler looks like twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two.
Speaker 2: Ely.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting him back into twenty twenty, but I'm
Speaker 1: putting him back into twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: Two when he was still a very effective player.
Speaker 3: They're getting them in space and that's, you know, one
Speaker 3: of the reasons what they're going to break the first tackle,
Speaker 3: break or shake them, and that's one thing that they
Speaker 3: have they've been able to do. And jayde Yana is
Speaker 3: gonna but he's gonna be running right, you know. Sam
Speaker 3: Hubberd and Trey Henderson are going to be putting some
Speaker 3: pressure I.
Speaker 1: Just tucked myself out of it because the Bengals run
Speaker 1: defense has been terrible and they lost bj Hill and
Speaker 1: they lost who else sh Sheldon Rankins up front.
Speaker 4: Sheldon Rankings up front. That's a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a recipe for a close game out least.
Speaker 4: That's and that's a lot of those linebackers.
Speaker 3: I mean, Pratt and Wilson are fantastic, hyper athletic, not
Speaker 3: the bigger, biggest guys, but they can run. But with
Speaker 3: those running backs and Jayden Daniels, you know, we'll see
Speaker 3: if Cliff can go against his instincts and not throw
Speaker 3: it thirty five times. But yeah, to me, that seven
Speaker 3: and a half number looks wide. I get it, but
Speaker 3: they are zero and two. There's some things going on
Speaker 3: in Cincinnati that aren't quite right. Well, you guys mentioned it.
Speaker 5: The third most rushing yards between the tackles this season
Speaker 5: and given up. Yeah, and here comes Brian Robinson junior.
Speaker 5: Jayden's gotten rid of the ball very quickly this season.
Speaker 5: In terms of time to throw. He's leading the entire
Speaker 5: NFL in time to throw.
Speaker 1: Now, that's that's because he only throws the ball yards
Speaker 1: behind the line of scribbing.
Speaker 5: We gotta get Terry, gotta get Diami Brown. We got
Speaker 5: to get them deeper down the field, get him into
Speaker 5: some routes and keep Jayden safe because this Bengals defense
Speaker 5: is built to defend the pass yep but if if
Speaker 5: Jayden wants to go yolo, as he is wont to do,
Speaker 5: I think seven and a half is too many points.
Speaker 5: I think the Commanders can move the ball and shortened
Speaker 5: the game because at a certain point, all love to
Speaker 5: Benjamin Saint ju Just and everybody in that secondary for
Speaker 5: Washington if it doesn't work with Dan Quinn to the
Speaker 5: extent that it's not working now, I'm having difficulty picturing
Speaker 5: this group in the secondary, like getting significant time in
Speaker 5: another spot.
Speaker 4: They are not good right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, their corners that they're having a hard time figure
Speaker 3: out what to do with their corners they're not getting.
Speaker 1: Might be the worst of the league. Te Higgins might
Speaker 1: be coming back in that spot, that's the recipe, right, Jamar.
Speaker 3: Chase might not be getting unsportsman like type penalties for
Speaker 3: not getting the ball and things like that.
Speaker 1: And look, I think the Bengals should have won that
Speaker 1: game in kansasaity that's just because of the penalty call,
Speaker 1: But just in terms of game flow and the drives,
Speaker 1: they look like it wasn't by a ton, but they
Speaker 1: look like the better team to me in that game.
Speaker 1: And Joe Burrow, who had that rough Week one, looked
Speaker 1: a lot better. Yes, looked a lot more like Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: So now you potentially get Higgins back and you're looking
Speaker 1: at these cornerbacks that look like barbecue chicken, and I
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's coming. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the big offensive day is coming for this Bengals team.
Speaker 5: And also in defense of Jamar Chays, yeah, he can't
Speaker 5: see what's happening in that interaction with the tackle. He
Speaker 5: feels the defender grabbing the towards the shoulder in the
Speaker 5: back and landing on his knee.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that he was off on that.
Speaker 4: He was calling for a.
Speaker 5: Horse tackle because in his body and his experience, he
Speaker 5: felt like that's what happened.
Speaker 4: He's like, son, are you trying to hurt me?
Speaker 3: I don't have my money yet, and that insurance company
Speaker 3: that fifteen million might take a couple months exactly, so
Speaker 3: do not put me on the sideline.
Speaker 1: Just a little injury note before we go. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: listed Ceedee Lamb and Trevon Diggs as not practicing on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: so we'll monitor that throughout the week, but they both
Speaker 1: did finish last week's game, which is usually a good sign.
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