1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, presented by Draft Kings Sportsbook, where 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: we're always limited in practice and in reality. 3 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 2: You know, we're old. 4 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,800 Speaker 1: I am Greg Rosental here in the Chris Wesleyan podcast 5 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: studio Beyond Lucky today to be joined by my friends 6 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Patrick Claybon and Steve Weish. It's preview week three times we. 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 3: Go and on day to day. That's the new injury 8 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,040 Speaker 3: vernacular in the NFL. 9 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, we got some surprising injury news about Jordan Love. 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: We'll get to the Packers game later. We will also 11 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: get to our Survivor pick. So tough story, tough times 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: for us here with the Survivor pick. Patrick went out 13 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: week one, I went out week two. Steve wasn't here 14 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: week one, and so you know, as the host of 15 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: NFL Daily, I'm saying we're going to continue this to you. 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: Miss week one. 17 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: So and I'm letting Patrick and us back in or else, 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, so hopefully you weren't listening. So whenever you 19 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: have your pick of the week, just just let I'll. 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 4: Let you know that's a loophole. Nice one, Thank you guys. 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: All right, so we're every week we start with the 22 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 1: game that has the smallest point spread and then we 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: work our way up to the biggest point spread. 24 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: Doesn't mean it's going to be a blot. 25 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: We saw a lot of underdogs win outright last week, 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: a lot of big upsets. But I am kind of 27 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: happy from an old school, traditional TV you know way, 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: that we're starting with Ravens and Cowboys. 29 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, the Baltimore Ravens favored by one point greg over 30 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 5: the Dallas Cowboys. These teams have a similar issue glaring 31 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 5: offensive deficiencies in one particular portion. The Ravens still dealing 32 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: with the departure of three linemen. The replacements have been 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 5: kind of slow in getting a start and making things 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 5: productive there. For Dallas, it's seemingly making the run game 35 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 5: an afterthought both schematically and personnel wise, and they both 36 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 5: rely on their paid quarterbacks to compensate for that. But 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: Deck couldn't compensate Steve for the defense, which got run 38 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 5: out of the stadium for the second straight game there. 39 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 5: The Packers did it last last year in the playoffs 40 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 5: on Sunday. Well, that's why this is the Derrick Henry game, right. 41 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 3: This is the back that everybody in Dallas wanted for 42 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 3: the Cowboys, and so this is the back that the 43 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: Ravens have not figured out how to use yet. 44 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: Oh and what a doubt. 45 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 3: So we're looking at a video over Schiechi heat and 46 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 3: all these great pass plays. You know, they only threw 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: the ball nineteen times. The Saints ran all over the Cowboys, 48 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 3: and I think this is going to be an opportunity 49 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 3: because of that soft interior as they say, up the 50 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: spine d tackles mid linebacker in safeties in a run 51 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 3: game for the Cowboys. For Derrick Henry to get that 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 3: run game going, even though those both of those guards, 53 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 3: as Patrick xcept for the Ravens have been shaky. 54 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, they did get the running game 55 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: going late against the Raiders. They ran the ball pretty 56 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: well in the second half before the three and ounts 57 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. But before that, Henry 58 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: was finally kind of looking like Henry And you said it, 59 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: this Mike Zimmer defense. They could not set the edge 60 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: last week at all. We were talking about Demarvion Overshan, 61 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: Marshawn Neilan, these these young guys for the Cowboys, and 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: overshad was barely even playing last week. They were in 63 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: base defense. They had three linebackers on the field and 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: they still got run over. You know, you sign a 65 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: couple guys Jordan Phillips and Linval Joseph late in camp 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: and you're like starting them week one. 67 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: That is never a good sign. 68 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: And now Phillips is actually going to IR So I 69 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: just don't know if they're that talented defensively, like, which 70 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: is crazy to say when you have Trevon Diggs and 71 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: I like Jordan Lewis, and I of course you like 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence and Michael Parsons upfront. But it's more just like, 73 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: can a good offense pick out their weak points? I 74 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 1: think they have some at linebacker, at defensive tackle, and 75 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: maybe in the secondary. 76 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: They are missing Thround Bland too. 77 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 5: It was just so difficult for the Ravens to really 78 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 5: do something in the opener against the Chiefs that wasn't 79 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 5: directly Lamar related. I mean, even in the in the 80 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 5: Raiders game where the passing yard is they did get. 81 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 5: Lamar's having to shift away from Max Crosby. He's having 82 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 5: to make Christian Wilkins miss in the pocket and then 83 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 5: come up and do the pump fake thing and get. 84 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 4: The ball to Zay down the field. 85 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 5: It's just hard to let go of those images and 86 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: thinking about Micah Parsons being the chase guy. 87 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: It's very tough. I agree. 88 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: I mean, I think Michaeh Parsons Zimmer is gonna turn 89 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: them loose. But this is the game I think we're 90 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: gonna see Mike. You know, Mark Andrews and Isaiah likely 91 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 3: get in there. You talk about in the linebacker issues 92 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 3: they have. You saw fen them up with an intermediate 93 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 3: passing game and boom, Derrick Henry can get going. And 94 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 3: like you said, Greg, he was hitting some nights runs. 95 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: He was doing that against Kansas City as well. And 96 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 3: then Todd Monkin flashed back to the playoff game and said, 97 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 3: you know, we don't need to run the ball with 98 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 3: our running backs anymore. 99 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 4: Let's make Lamar try and do everything. 100 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: So flipping to the other side when Dallas has the ball. 101 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: And I like the Ravens in this game. It's partly 102 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: because they're zero and two, but it's probably just because 103 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: I think they're a better football team. I might have 104 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: jumped off my I take that the Cowboys were gonna 105 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: be a mess one, you know, one week too early. 106 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: I got it right, and then I jumped off, and 107 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 2: now I'm wrong. 108 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm not really being serious about that, but I do 109 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: think the Ravens are a more talented team. And that 110 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: game last week that the Ravens lost, it was one 111 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: of those where you know, if at football outside of 112 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: FTN now they run the simulations and like, if you 113 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: look at the game, the Ravens should have won that 114 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: game like ninety two percent of the game time it was. 115 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: It was a little fluky how they lost it. And 116 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: then you look at this Dallas offense, which hasn't really 117 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: been right for two straight weeks. Where are the strengths 118 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: for this Cowboys team. Sure it's Dak is there, but 119 00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: the offensive line communication I think has been an issue. 120 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: There's been a little bit of talk of like Dak's 121 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: making all the calls at the line of scrimmage, but 122 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: you have a rookie center and communicating to the offensive 123 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: line and them all being on the same page. And 124 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: it's not just the rookie left tackle with Tyler Geyton. 125 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 1: They're right tackle Terrence Steele had a really bad game 126 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: last week. And you know, the Ravens can maybe get 127 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: after the passer a little bit, they can cook things up. 128 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: And I still think the lack of depth behind cd 129 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: LAMB is an issue and I have more faith that 130 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: kind of in the Ravens infrastructure. 131 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 5: If the Cowboys are looking for good news, this stat 132 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 5: was wild that I saw this week. The Baltimore Ravens 133 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 5: have had the opposing quarterback play action pass drop back 134 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 5: thirteen times. They are thirteen for thirteen on those dropbacks. 135 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 5: A rough start both team. Somebody's got to get something 136 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 5: figured out. But Greg, you mentioned offensive line issues. That 137 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 5: brings us to our second game, the Chicago Bears OH 138 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 5: at the Indianapolis Colts. 139 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: The Colts favored by one and a half points. 140 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 5: The Bears worked their way through the AFC South this 141 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 5: early season, their third AFC South opponent on the road again. 142 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 5: This time, the Colts were able to score thanks to 143 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 5: a couple of spectacular plays by Anthony Richardson and Alec 144 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 5: Pearson company in Week one. But the run defense has 145 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 5: been an issue. Can the Bears even run the ball? Greg, 146 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 5: to make it an issue in this game? 147 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: I mean they couldn't last week that their offense has 148 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: been such a mess, and you would think think this 149 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: is a great week to get off the schneid against 150 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: a Colts defense which has had its share of struggles, but. 151 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. 152 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: Like DeForrest Buckner is out of this game. He is 153 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: on injured reserve. And the front four for the Colts 154 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: just haven't been good enough in any respect. This is 155 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 1: what they were building their defense around. And yet, like 156 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: when a bad offensive line goes up against a bad defense, 157 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: I still tend to trust the bad defense more and 158 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: like they are the number one. Like as much as 159 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: the run defense has gotten some attention, the Colts aren't 160 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: a great pass defense either. 161 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. 162 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: Look, the Colts have some players, I mean still, You've 163 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: got Quitty Pay, You've got some guys on that defense, 164 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 3: Aire Franklin Speed, some guys who can make some plays. 165 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 4: But this is one. 166 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,559 Speaker 3: I mean, soon is Shane Walder and this coaching staff 167 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: are going to start feeling some heat. 168 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 4: You know. For the Bears. 169 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: We already know they're all on one year potential Green 170 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 3: Mile deals, so they're going to have to figure something out. 171 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: What's a great mile? 172 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 4: Okay? So did you ever see the movie Green Mile? 173 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 4: You know what that means? 174 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 2: No, I do know what it means, but I haven't 175 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 2: seen the movie. 176 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: You're on your way to the death. Cham Oh, okay, right, 177 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 3: you're on the green mile. That's where you're walking. The 178 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: flora's the flora's green. The flora is green, that is 179 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: the path. So that's if they don't get it done, 180 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 3: that's exactly where they're headed. But you know, when I 181 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: when I look at the Bears and Caleb, just so 182 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 3: many things they're over complicating. I think they can run 183 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: the ball. I mean, I think they need to get 184 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 3: Rashawn Johnson involved a little bit more and Khalil Herbert 185 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: a little bit more. I think there's there's certain things 186 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: that those guys do that they could take advantage of 187 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 3: against the defensive front that is not great against the run. 188 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: I do some quick passing game stuff to get Caleb's 189 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 3: confidence going. 190 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: The point I wanted to make about the pass defense 191 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: with the Coast, because you're right, the rushing numbers are 192 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: so bad, but are you know an NFL pro Like 193 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: the next ten sets, they look at efficiency and this 194 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: is actually the second worst passing attack in the league, 195 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: the Bears. That's not a surprise that the fact that 196 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 1: the Panthers exist is the only reason they're at because 197 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: their number are so bad. But the Colts actually efficiency 198 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: wise are the second worst pass defense, so they're not 199 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 1: too crazy. 200 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 2: They're not doing anything well. 201 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 5: And that's considering the fact that we're two games into 202 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 5: the season, right and Joe Mixon ran for one hundred 203 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 5: and fifty three cards for them in the very first 204 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 5: week of the season. It's one of those very very 205 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 5: movable objects against a very very visible force type matchup. 206 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 5: Because the Bears offensive line has given up pressures on 207 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 5: forty seven percent of their drop back not okay. And 208 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 5: to see Caleb Williams on the ground writhing in pain. 209 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 5: First of all, he was exhausted towards the end of 210 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: the game, but just getting teed off time after time 211 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,080 Speaker 5: again by will Anderson Junr as well as the rest 212 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 5: of that Texans pass It's just hard to get past 213 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 5: that for me. And I know that, like they want 214 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 5: to get the downfield passing thing. But Steve mentioned the 215 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 5: the like the danger that this coaching staff might be in, 216 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 5: and you juxtaposed that with across the street here where 217 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 5: the Chargers staff comes in and they aren't running the 218 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 5: ball well at all in the first half, but they 219 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 5: stick to stick with it, they commit to it. I 220 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 5: don't know if the Bears feel like they it's safe 221 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 5: to go out there and try to grind it out 222 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 5: against a team that can't stop the run. 223 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 3: And this is the example that we're seeing so many 224 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 3: with the young quarterback. We drafted a guy high. We 225 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: have to let everybody know that he's going to be 226 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 3: the savior. Protect him, run the football. They have shown 227 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 3: that they can do some things in the run game 228 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: if they stick with it. Okay, they're not playing this 229 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 3: Texas defensive front. You've heard me on here. The Texans 230 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 3: are too deep at all their front seven positions. They're 231 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 3: not playing that type of front this game. Stick with 232 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 3: the ball if it is a ten to seven game, 233 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: because if very well could because the Colts can't score, you. 234 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 2: Know, that's that though, like they should be able to score. 235 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 2: Okay the Bears, I do. 236 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 4: Okay, Bears defense is legit. 237 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 1: Bears very good on the back end, and so that's 238 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: troublesome for an Anthony Richardson led passing attack, which has 239 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: been erratic. Michael Pittman said it. They're not getting the 240 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: simple plays, they're not getting the chain moving plays. They're 241 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: getting a couple of big plays. Anthony Richardson, I've sold 242 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: him as a guy who is that makes really good 243 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 1: decisions with the football that it's an underrated trade. Of 244 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: his interception last week, one of them was a bad decision. 245 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't think he's always been making the best decisions 246 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: on when to keep the ball and when to give 247 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: it on the RPO stuff, So that's something that was 248 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: a little off in Green Bay. I think they got 249 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: to build the whole ship out of the run game. 250 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 1: I mean, they need to win in the worst way. 251 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: They're at home against a vulnerable Bears team. They're owe 252 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: and two. You can not go to ohero and three 253 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 1: at home against the Bears. I'm leaning into Anthony Richardson 254 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: running and of course I'm leaning into Jonathan Taylor running. 255 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: That's the one thing they have done well. Their offensive 256 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: line has look good, I think through two weeks, and 257 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: they can run the ball. They're one of the best 258 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: running teams in the league. This Bears Eberflus defense is 259 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: built to stop the pass. Really, so I think you 260 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 1: can win a game because I think Anthony Richardson and 261 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor should still be one of the very best 262 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: backfields in the league. And to me, that's actually the 263 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,520 Speaker 1: number one thing in this entire game that I trust 264 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: the most. 265 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,839 Speaker 2: Give me the Bears I mean, give me the. 266 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: Colts the high variance aspect, right, but you at least 267 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 5: believe in one of those variances being able in Anthony 268 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 5: Richardson being able to make plays. Even though this Bears 269 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 5: defense is very, very good, It's like it could go either. 270 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 5: If he's gonna be effectively wild. He's doing it against 271 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 5: the Bears, but he's also doing it against everybody else. 272 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,319 Speaker 3: The Airs are gonna cover. Caleb's gonna go ahead and 273 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: have oh pretty nice game. 274 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 2: I like little disagreement. 275 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: We're going ahead there. 276 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 5: We'll go from there to a matchup of unbeatens, the 277 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 5: Los Angeles Chargers and the Pittsburgh Steelers in Pittsburgh for 278 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 5: their Week three homeover. 279 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:26,680 Speaker 4: Three yards in a cloud of du Yeah. 280 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 5: No, it's gonna be a grind out with Justin Fields 281 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 5: back at the Helm. Favored by one and a half points, 282 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 5: here comes the Chargers, though they do have some injury 283 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 5: concerns for Justin Herbert dealing with a foot, but they're 284 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 5: bringing in one of the most efficient passing and rushing 285 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 5: efficiency defenses in the entire league. They're number one Steve 286 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: and both of those categories. Do they get it done? 287 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 3: Yes, I'm torn on this, and that's why I like 288 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,079 Speaker 3: the one point five here. I think I think this 289 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 3: tight game because neither one of these offenses. Well, the 290 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: Charges could score, but Pittsburgh find that end zone is 291 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,360 Speaker 3: a very difficult thing for them. 292 00:12:58,400 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 4: Man that defense. 293 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 3: I like this is where I think Fields, being an 294 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 3: RPO type of guy, can put some stress on those 295 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:10,319 Speaker 3: ends because this is where uber talented outside linebacker slash 296 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: defensive ends. They like to use their talent and this 297 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 3: is going to be a discipline game, right are you 298 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 3: gonna are you gonna stick with the quarterback? 299 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 4: Are you gonna take the pitch? 300 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: Man? 301 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 4: Are you gonna take the the RPO? 302 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 2: Fake terms of Bosa and Max turns. 303 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 4: It back in Tully to be a Pilow too. This is. 304 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 3: I think, you know, boy, I'm torn on this because 305 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: you know, again Pittsburgh can't score. But this is where 306 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: I think Justin Fields and Arthur Smith are gonna be 307 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 3: able to dial up a couple of things to get 308 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: some yards in that RPO game. 309 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: We're so early in the season, this is to show 310 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: me something game, because what do we really know about 311 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers. They've done, They've improved, their their base level 312 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: is obviously better on the lines, and I think the 313 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: defense is playing in sync. But yeah, they've played the 314 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: Raiders and they've played the Panthers. Yeah, the Steelers last 315 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: week are coming off a game against bow Knicks, like 316 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: and Kirk wasn't moving round week one, Like, these defenses 317 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: are going to be excellent, but they've had good matchups 318 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 1: the first couple of weeks. I have a question is 319 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: like how good is this Chargers offensive line that their 320 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: fans are telling me is going to be great? And 321 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: people are really impressed with Joe All there's some disagreements, 322 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: like if you look at sort of the the metrics 323 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: like pass rush win rate and PFF are are way off, 324 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: Like PFF as them, is a good offensive pass rush 325 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: win rate, run block win rate isn't too kind of 326 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: the Charges right now, I don't put that. 327 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 2: Much into it. 328 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: But this is the ultimate test because I think this 329 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: is the number one front in the entire league, the 330 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. Cam Hayward, he's done it again, Like he 331 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: was injured last year and he's back to just being ageless. 332 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: Cam Hayward, Canu Bentten had a great game last in 333 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: a Highsmith is good, Like they're just so deep. It 334 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: is going to be a huge test. And you know, 335 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: we tape this show on Wednesdays, justin Herbert missed practice 336 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: entirely on Wednesday. So that's just something to watch because 337 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: if it's Easton Stick, I've seen enough of that movie. 338 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: They're not they're out winning with Easton's thing. 339 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: But we would just have to watch and see Herbert 340 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: did finish out the game, which is usually a pretty 341 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: good sign that you're going to play the next week. 342 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, but anytime we're invoking Easton Stick and not in 343 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 5: a sports equipment up yourself, I can't know. It's it's 344 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 5: it's every time it comes up. Yeah, that would change 345 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 5: things entirely. But the numbers for Joe Alt do look good. 346 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 5: He's he's allowed for pressures on fifty one, blocking snaps 347 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 5: some of that. It's against Jadavian Clowney coming back. And 348 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 5: then there was the opener and we did Max Crosby. Yeah, 349 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 5: that's the one they kind of jumps off. 350 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: But t J. 351 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 5: Watt and the Steelers defense, it's just such a different beast. 352 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 5: I think it comes into we've seen the Steelers where 353 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 5: if you're watching the game and you're not necessarily paying 354 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 5: attention to how things are going. You see them take 355 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 5: downfield shot after downfield shot with Justin Fields, they're drawing penalties. 356 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 5: In terms of George Pickens, there's been a couple of 357 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 5: touchdowns yep that have been called back. It's kind of 358 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 5: where we looked at the Pittsburgh Steelers last year and 359 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 5: it's like, well, they just need to rely on this 360 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 5: big play to George Pickens. It's the same way, but 361 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 5: the defense is healthier now and the quarterback can make 362 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 5: more plays. 363 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: There's some real chemistry there. 364 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 3: Makes me feel between those two there is yeah, you know, 365 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: and if they get the play action going, if they 366 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: get in any type of run game going, this. 367 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 4: Can be fun. So I was like, guys, we're leaning 368 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 4: to the home team here. 369 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: I am a little bit partly because of the Herbert injury. 370 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: These are the top two defenses in terms of EPA 371 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: and the Steelers are short handed, like they're counting on 372 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: It's a lot of like Darnel Washington and Van Jefferson 373 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: and Michael Pruitt and Calvin Austin. 374 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 2: It's like, it's not great. 375 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: And the book on Justin Fields has always been Blitz 376 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: and Blitz and Blitze and he'll struggle. That's what's been 377 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: the approach the first two weeks. The defenses have taken 378 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: hasn't worked at all. He's actually been very effective, maybe 379 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: showing some maturation. But this this Steelers offensive line stinks too. 380 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 2: Right now. 381 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: They're benching Broderick Jones their first round pick. They have 382 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: not played in SANC. You mentioned the running game. We 383 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: thought this team would be like a good running team. 384 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: They've've been really poor so far actually per play, so 385 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: that's very different. Maybe I'm switching my pick as i'm talking. 386 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: Because only one of these teams has a one time 387 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: guest of NFL Daily. 388 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 2: JK. 389 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: Dobbins has gotten that bump and he is a man 390 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: of his word since he was on the show with 391 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: us in training camp. I'll let you go on this 392 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: like you're throwing any numbers out there, you got any 393 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: goals in. 394 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 6: Mind, I'll let you put your numbers out. I'll let 395 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 6: everyone put their numbers out, and I bet all, I'll 396 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 6: bet i all beat those numbers that y'all put out. 397 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm thinking like twelve hundred and thirteen hundred yards 398 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: from scrimming something like that. Because they want to share 399 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: the ball a little bit. Gus is going to get 400 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: his work too. But you're looking you can still beat that. 401 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: You're saying, yes, okay, I love it. The look on 402 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: his face is awesome there. And I listened to him. 403 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: I know JK. Dobbins is a man of his word. 404 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: I know this is a very talented man in terms 405 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: of vision and patience and just he's got it. And 406 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: so I told my daughter, you better get JK. Dobbins 407 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: on your fantasy team. She didn't. You know, he's killing 408 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: thirteen hundred yards. That's nothing right now, he's going to 409 00:17:59,480 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: pass that. 410 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, easy money. 411 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 5: He his his yards for carry went way down in 412 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 5: the in Week two, and he had seven point seven 413 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 5: yards per carry against the Carolina Panthers. Will leave that 414 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,119 Speaker 5: matchup of unbeatens to go to another matchup of unbeatens, 415 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 5: the Houston Texans, who got that win on Sunday Night football, 416 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 5: favored by two points on the road in the Hive. 417 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 3: I mean I love this game, Yes, I absolutely love 418 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 3: this game. And buzz, Look, you have two offenses that 419 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 3: run the same scheme, right, Bobby Slowick, Kevin O'Connell, these 420 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,640 Speaker 3: are these are all McVeigh shanahan disciples, right, so it's 421 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 3: gonna be running the same scheme. And we saw what 422 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: that Vikings defense did to the forty nine ers in 423 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 3: this game, where you had Rock Purty coming up to 424 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 3: Brian Flores saying, Wow, that's scheme. 425 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: That game's crazy, bro, crazy bro. 426 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 4: But the Texans are a different monster. Now. 427 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how. I mean, they're they're so loaded. 428 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 3: This this is such a good game. So in me 429 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: talking about Houston's offense going against this defense, I do 430 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 3: think still that Houston has got some advantages with the receivers, 431 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 3: the fact that they spread the ball around the way 432 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 3: they do. 433 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 4: You know, Nico Collins is really showing up big time the. 434 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: Leading the league and receiving by like fifty yards. 435 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 3: But not having Joe mix and is is a is 436 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 3: a different thing. In this game, we saw cam Akers 437 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 3: had a couple of good runs, but he coughed up 438 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 3: the ball. I mean that's been a problem of his 439 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 3: So CJ. Stroud is gonna have to really show up 440 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 3: in this game. 441 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 4: I think this. I mean, he shows up every game, 442 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: but I think this is one where it's going to 443 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 4: be on his arm. 444 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 1: Yes, And I've felt that the Texans passing game has 445 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: actually been a little disjointed. 446 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: In the first two weeks. They've been productive. CJ. 447 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: Stroud has made a lot of good throws and a 448 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: couple of good throws in rhythm, but he's really counted 449 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: on in both games just making plays, yes, as if 450 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: he's probably been working on that, Like not that he 451 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: wasn't good at that his rookie year, but these two 452 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: games it's really stood out. But the on time winning 453 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: from the pocket throws haven't been as consistent. Now they've 454 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: had pretty tough match you know, pretty tough matchup this 455 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 1: last week against the Bears, and this is a tough 456 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,439 Speaker 1: one too, But you met it. 457 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 2: I mean, party's not wrong. 458 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: This game is crazy, bro, Like they're like you said, 459 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: these offenses are similar, the defenses are not because there's 460 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: no defense quite like a Brian Flores defense. And just 461 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: they have like four players I was watching this on 462 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: film this week that are just everywhere. It seems like 463 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: there's two of them. And here's the four. Mattellus is everywhere, 464 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: He's everywhere, Harrison Smith is everywhere, still playing like he's 465 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: twenty five years old. Van Ginkel is everywhere. And then 466 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: the guy I wanted to talk about is Blake Cashman. 467 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: It's the Cashman Revenge game. Blake Cashman was awesome in 468 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: that game. Last week in coverage, Brian Flores said he 469 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: got it like a tip. 470 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: From from a I forget. 471 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: It was like a former Hurricanes coach of Cashman's in 472 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: college that happens to live in Eaton Prairie now or 473 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: something like that. 474 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,359 Speaker 2: And they that's been a great free agent signing. 475 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: And then they have a lot of really smart guys 476 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: who can execute a tough defense. 477 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 5: And and that's the thing because when you when you 478 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,440 Speaker 5: mentioned all those guys, they're all they've all seen a 479 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 5: lot of football, and the communication with them works so 480 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 5: well where there's plays where they line up showing double 481 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 5: a gap, they got a double bug look and they 482 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 5: come out to cover two. 483 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 4: It's like Brock's having to figure that out. 484 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 5: And at one point, cornerback's traveling with Brandon I who 485 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 5: can motion, and instead of running, he runs around the 486 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 5: rest of the secondary and he goes back into a 487 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,679 Speaker 5: single high look and rock Party looks up, like, what 488 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 5: am I supposed to do with this? That's a hell 489 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 5: of an ask of a player too, and he just 490 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 5: has to take a set. It's just there's so much 491 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 5: and a lot can go wrong and c J. Stroud 492 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 5: can make you wrong. But it's gonna be fun to watch. 493 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 5: But I do think right since he come he comes 494 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 5: into the league as a rookie, he is top four 495 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 5: in yards per attempt against the Blitz and that includes 496 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 5: his entire rookie season, where yeah, it's still good and 497 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 5: B flow sense. 498 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: It's but even like that Week one they didn't like. 499 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: You just never know what you're gonna get. This team 500 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: I think could execute anything. I'm I'm torn on this game, 501 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: like I lean Texans, I don't don't have a strong 502 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: feeling you're You're right, though, Steve, this isn't an awesome one. 503 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: It as much as we talk about the Vikings scheme 504 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: and everything, it's like the Texans still have the players 505 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: Stingley and Lasseter and Petrie in the back end. That's 506 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: a tougher matchup than than Sam Darnold. 507 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: And here's the bigger point, and no one talks about 508 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 3: them and the Texans linebackers. This might be other than 509 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,479 Speaker 3: maybe the Niners and may the best overall group of us. 510 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 3: He's Al Shayer, Okay, you know the puncher you got 511 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: Henry Toto. Oh, they have dudes who can run and 512 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 3: get to the ball and deliver you know, some turnover 513 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: changing contact when they get there, and that's gonna be 514 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: a problem for the Vikings. You know, in that run game, 515 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 3: that intermediate stuff. The way that these linebackers can run 516 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 3: and get to the ball are going to be an 517 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: issue for the Vikings. 518 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 4: I do like the Texans to. 519 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: Cover so that like, this was an inter game coming 520 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: into the season, But you just never know what's gonna 521 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: look like. 522 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 2: To me, maybe the game of the week. 523 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: I have a little hot take here, Okay, that the 524 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 1: secondary cruise. And so for CBS that's Charles Davis and 525 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: Iron Eagle, and now for Fox that's Greg Olsen and 526 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: Joe Davis. Like they've been getting the better games every week. 527 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: They got Charles Davis is on Texans Vikings. That's intriguing. 528 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: That's a twenty twenty four type of game. Greg Olsen's 529 00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: got Saints Eagles. That's a lot of fun. And then 530 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: they stick you know, the big names. It's like, oh, 531 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are just you know, Tom Brady's personal team 532 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 1: for the third stree week. 533 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: That's a good game too. 534 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying sometimes I've been noticing the secondary 535 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: teams are getting the juicier games. I'm looking forward to this. 536 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,120 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the rest of this show too. 537 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: But we are going to. 538 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: Take a quick break and we be back right after this, 539 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: back on NFL Daily. 540 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: For what I think is the game of the week 541 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: in the Superdome right here in week three? Are you 542 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 2: doing games of the week in the Superdome with that? 543 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 4: And we were a field goal or a cought ball on. 544 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 5: A crucial third down away from this being a matchup 545 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 5: of unbeatens in the Mercedes Been super Dome between the 546 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 5: Philadelphia Eagles and the Saints instead the one on one 547 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 5: Eagles on the road and what will be a Banana's 548 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 5: atmosphere in the Superdome on Sunday. Two and a half 549 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 5: point favor with the New Orleans Saints bringing in the 550 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 5: top offensive football Steve that went deep into the second 551 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 5: half before they even had to drive, that didn't result 552 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 5: in a touchdown in Dallas. 553 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: How do you see this one going. 554 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 3: I'm not a gambler, but two and a half seems 555 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 3: like a small number because the Eagles defense is not good. 556 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 3: I mean, the issues that they had last year. Then 557 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 3: their losing streak have surfaced big time their defensive line phages. 558 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 3: As the game goes along in terms of stopping the run, 559 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: the linebackers get outmatched and their corners, at least one 560 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 3: of them the veteran. The speed is an issue. Well, okay, 561 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 3: rashiit chahed. All he does is catch big play touchdowns. Right, 562 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,719 Speaker 3: You've got chrys Olave, Derek carr is hitting these guys 563 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: running game. Alba Kamara looks fantastic. Like I said, for 564 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 3: that big number that the Saints just put up on 565 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 3: the Cowboys, you only through the ball nineteen times guys, right, 566 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 3: they can run the football. They've got guys who can mash. 567 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,480 Speaker 3: We can say all we want about the Eagles offense, 568 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 3: keeping them close, their defense, Vic Fangio or whatnot. It's 569 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 3: not there right now. That two and a half number 570 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 3: seems very very small to me. So you could think, 571 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: you know, the Saints fans gonna hear and stand up 572 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 3: and get crunk a whole lot in the Dome this week. 573 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 2: Right, It's just evaluating. 574 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: Do you put stock into the players' names and what 575 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: you thought going into the season, or do you put 576 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 1: stock into what your eyes are telling you now? 577 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: The Saints have not played a normal game yet. 578 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: They've they've gotten the thirty by halftime in each game 579 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: because they've just put up touch the touch. 580 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just crazy. 581 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: At some point they will play a normal game, and 582 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: I think that'll be a good test of their offensive line. 583 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: Can they do some true drop back passing, not not 584 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: just blowing people open in the running game. I don't 585 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: know if they're gonna have to though in this game. 586 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: To your point, Steve, because the run defense for Philadelphia 587 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: has been so bad, especially against the outside zone. That's 588 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: what the Saints have been majoring in. I can't believe 589 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 1: how in sync the group is. You give a ton 590 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: of credit to their offensive line coach and Clint Kubiak, 591 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 1: their coordinator, because Caesar Ruiz and Eric McCoy, especially on 592 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 1: the interier just blowing people up like Trevor Penning is 593 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: making it happen. And this is going up against the 594 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: exact biggest weakness right now of this Eagles group. And 595 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: Derek Carr has shown in this system he'll pass early 596 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 1: to set up the run. 597 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 2: That's where I. 598 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: Think people always get it miss is like like you 599 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: pass early, you get a lead to set up their 600 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: run and that's worked perfectly and right now, like Bryce 601 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 1: Huff isn't getting it done, but no one else, like 602 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: Jalen Carter's not either. Jalen Carter did not have a 603 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: good game against Chris Linstrom on Monday night. 604 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 2: Either it's a short week, you're you're on the road, 605 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 2: like it. 606 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: Is a They wish they had that win just in 607 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: their pocket because like, even though they weren't playing well, 608 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: sometimes you can work your way into it. But now 609 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: they're looking at a one and two record potentially. It's 610 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: amazing how quickly things change, though. I saw on Twitter 611 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 1: some Eagles fans just saying like, oh, this is the 612 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,400 Speaker 1: schedule lost, just here's one and two. 613 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, man, like, that's crazy. 614 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 5: Well, the big and rapid change to me was it 615 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 5: was not that long ago where we're thinking about this 616 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 5: Eagles stable of edge rushers and pass rushers that's rotating in. 617 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: They're leading the league in. 618 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 5: Time off the snap, snap to target times for everybody, 619 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 5: and then they don't necessarily want to go up on 620 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 5: that one million dollars for Hassan Reddick. The Jets don't 621 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 5: want to either, and then Bryce Huff comes in and 622 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 5: you're kind of starting to wonder if Howie gets back 623 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 5: on the phone to try to figure something out. 624 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: It's not that crazy if everyone could just swallow their 625 00:27:58,720 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: pride a. 626 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 5: Little bit, because it makes sense for all parties, because 627 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 5: I mean not to get into the contract leads, but 628 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 5: a son Ridick deserves more than a million. Yeah and 629 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 5: change here in twenty twenty four, and there's plenty of 630 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 5: teams that could use an edge. 631 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 4: That can well the Jets now that Darine Junson's. 632 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: Out, Yes, they absolutely, they absolutely could. 633 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 5: But now they've got a number two passing efficiency offense 634 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 5: coming in where they're number twenty six in passing efficiency. 635 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 5: And it's not like it was last year. Where's the 636 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 5: comedy of errors on the back end? Right, it's like 637 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 5: Queenya Mitchell's playing great, Yes he is, and other than 638 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 5: getting completely diced up by Drake London on the final play, 639 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 5: the slave played. 640 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: All right, Sure there was a play I think it 641 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: was the last one, and I was listening to an 642 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: evaluation of it on phl y this podcast Egos podcast, 643 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: and they noted, like on that play they're doing a 644 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: stunt on one side and then they do it three 645 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: by one to set up their best pass rusher to 646 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: have a one on one situation at the Eagles, that is, 647 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 1: and their best pass rusher they believe with the app 648 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: salute game on the line is thirty seven year old 649 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Graham. 650 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 2: Who has played okay through a twoek. 651 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,000 Speaker 1: But that's not a good sign for what's going on 652 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: with the rest of your guys. 653 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: It's it's just I mean, and this is a bad matchup. 654 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 3: I mean again, you look at the stretch the stretch 655 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 3: zone scheme, and what's interesting you talked about how even 656 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 3: someone like Trevor Penning right who we didn't know could play, 657 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 3: this scheme has really let guys like that resurrect their careers. 658 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: It comes from an Alex Gibbs run scheme from back 659 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: to the day with Mike Shanahan. 660 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 4: He never wanted first round draft picks. 661 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 3: He wanted guys who are agile, with athleticism, who moved 662 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: to a spot, not to a man. 663 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 4: That's what they're doing. 664 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 3: When you talked about the offensive line playing on a 665 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: thread and just having someone like Alvin Kamara, who this 666 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,120 Speaker 3: is his type of game where he can be patient 667 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 3: and hit some spots. 668 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 4: I just think this is tough. 669 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 3: I mean, Philly Yeah, they might be able to put 670 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: up some points, but we all know that the Saints 671 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 3: bread has been buttered with his defense. 672 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: To make just to make the case quickly for Philly, 673 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: it's a huge deal of that aj Brown is expected 674 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: to miss another game and there's such a drop off 675 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: their thin But the Saints defense, and at least the 676 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: last few years basically the same defense has struggled with 677 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: good rushing quarterbacks that Jalen hurts his plane at a 678 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: high level. And more than anything, I can see this 679 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: Eagles offensive line mashing this Saints defensive line in the 680 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: running game because I think they can be that good. 681 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 2: You can push back on me. 682 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: I think they can keep they can move the ball 683 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: on offense, running the ball, and that it's going to 684 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: be more of a game game than the Saints events 685 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: so far. 686 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 5: Well, speaking of the quarterbacks that can run, Taysom Hill 687 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 5: d n p at practice Wednesdays, so tight end Patrick Well, 688 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 5: either way. 689 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: He's a big factor though guys, they kind of dictate, 690 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: they move him all around. 691 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, regardless, having him on the field is probably important. Yes, 692 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 5: a couple of plays, we'll go from that game to 693 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 5: another good game, which maybe we wouldn't have thought was 694 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 5: good a few weeks ago. And that is the Detroit 695 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 5: Lions a three point favorite on the road in the 696 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 5: desert against Kyler and company who were all over the Rams. 697 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 5: On Sunday Chris Meyer's Mark Schlereth on the call, Greg 698 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 5: Kyler and Marv Junior got it figured out last week. 699 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: They absolutely did. He has been so awesome. I still 700 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: feel bad that I nominated that Derek Carr throw tot 701 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: Shaheed as the throw of the week on our Sunday 702 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: Night recap. Let's watch the angle here in the studio, 703 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: and obviously if you're just listing in your car, just 704 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: just pull over and watch it. Because the figure eight 705 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: that he made before he threw on the run and 706 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: had to throw it kind of behind him and time 707 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 1: it perfectly to the receiver and then he turns around 708 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: like Steph Crey that that really was the throw of 709 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: the week last week. So I apologized to Kyler Murray, 710 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: what do you think that throw would beat the Anthony 711 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: Richardson throw from week one as the throw of the 712 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: year so far? 713 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 5: The play itself might beat it the throw of the year. 714 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, nobody's doing what Kyler does. But the throw. 715 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: The champion still have the belt, then what a fun test. 716 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: Though this is against the I think a good Lions defense. 717 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: Hutchinson's playing well, owned the Rique's playing well, Brands is 718 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: playing well. 719 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: I think the Lions defense has showed up in these 720 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 2: two games. 721 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the one that's gonna be a little 722 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: bit more of a truth tellers to what the Arizona 723 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 3: Cardinals are because they are exciting. You know me, I'm 724 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 3: the world's biggest Kyler Murray fan. Is he on the 725 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: island yet? 726 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 4: Have we gone back? 727 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that we are debating whether to 728 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: do QB Island next week or the week after. 729 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 2: We have not gone back to the island. 730 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 4: Okay, so we gotta get I think he's. 731 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: Going to be on there, it's safe to say. 732 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 4: But with Derek Carr, who we get fired too. 733 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 3: But I just think this is where this is the 734 00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,959 Speaker 3: week where Detroit, though it's offense gets right. I mean, 735 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 3: they they've kind of been junked up and truncated. They've 736 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: had some tough games, but I think this is where 737 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 3: their offense gets right again. I think Kyler's gonna put 738 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 3: some points upon But I think Jared Goff is going 739 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: to not be throwing. 740 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 4: Picks like he did last week. 741 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: And to get the Lions question for you, Patrick, Yeah, 742 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: just a little theory I had. 743 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 4: Okay, least the. 744 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: Last couple weeks or like teams catching up to the Lions, 745 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: just like a little bit. On offense, the run has 746 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: been pretty good, not great. They kind of struggled at 747 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: the end of last week's years. But more than I 748 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: just haven't seen the wide open dudes, and Goff hasn't 749 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: looked quite as comfortable. I've just used to seeing like 750 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: those wide open guys. Maybe I'm over over. 751 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 5: It's always tough to say, hey, you take away the turnovers, 752 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 5: because it's the NFL. 753 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 4: You can't take away the turnovers. 754 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 5: They doubled up the Bucks in terms of first downs 755 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 5: rushing almost did it in passing. They doubled up in 756 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 5: total yards, and they doubled their passing yards as well. 757 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: Okay, but they are okay, I have an answer for 758 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: that though. They are sixteen so far through two games, 759 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: and yards per pass just a basic stat like they've 760 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: been pretty average by their passing metrics. Yeah, you're gonna 761 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: dial up some yards when you go back there fifty 762 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: five times but it hasn't been as easy. I don't 763 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: think for Jared. I think he's had a tougher time 764 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: than I would have expected. 765 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 5: It certainly has not been as easy. And I think, 766 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 5: of course they're playing against two teams that they'd just 767 00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 5: beaten the playoffs. 768 00:33:59,640 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 1: Good point. 769 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a lot of familiarity. 770 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 5: There, a lot of coming alley in the game plan, 771 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 5: and now they get to kind of go off of 772 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 5: that into a different place. I'm confident that this guy's 773 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 5: and that's a loss where Dan Campbell was already saying 774 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 5: at halftime, I screwed up. 775 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 4: I blew that. That's on me. 776 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 5: I think they're gonna come out and we're not going 777 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 5: to see jerk Off dropping back forty times. I think 778 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 5: they are going to pound the rocks and that. 779 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 3: Cold and one thing, you know, one reason why this 780 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: line's offense is successful is the personnel scheme. Defenses into 781 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,279 Speaker 3: a brain maze ahead of time, like they'll come out 782 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: and run personnel. You know, two running backs, two tight ends, 783 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 3: and they're throwing at thirty yards down field. 784 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 4: Well, now teams aren't going for the Oki dok. 785 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 3: Right, there's some situational things they're probably looking at that 786 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 3: they're discovering. So Ben Johnson's got to kind of get 787 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 3: back into the lab a little bit. But I'm with Patrick. 788 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 3: I just think this is a game of their offense 789 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:50,959 Speaker 3: kind of finally. 790 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 4: Get to going. 791 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 2: Is the over under here is fifty one and a half. 792 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 2: That's not high enough. 793 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: This is the one game where I'm feeling thirty three 794 00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: twenty five something like. 795 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 4: That up and down the field. That the Cardinals haven't 796 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 4: played a low scoring game home season. 797 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 2: No, their offense is legit. 798 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 3: It's legit, man. I mean the offensive line is playing 799 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 3: in kyler Is. He's feeling pretty good these days, and 800 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 3: so points. 801 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 4: Easy to come by in that one. 802 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 5: Perhaps not in our next game, that is the Green 803 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 5: Bay Packers in what would be the Malik Willis revenge 804 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,600 Speaker 5: game against the Tennessee Titans, who are at home favored 805 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,319 Speaker 5: by two and a half. But Greg, we just saw 806 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 5: video earlier today on Wednesday of Jordan Love on the 807 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 5: field wearing pads and throwing a pass. I'm not going 808 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 5: to extrapolate it because I'm not a Twitter doctor. Yeah, 809 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 5: but he's doing that, so take from there. 810 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: He's limited in practice, and they took it all the 811 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: way to the weekend where Matt Lafleur was leaving the 812 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: door open. They had him questionable initially and then downgraded 813 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:53,360 Speaker 1: him to doubtful. It's one of those where the coach 814 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: has been publicly saying something and the insiders said something 815 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: quite different initially. Just reading between the lines, I still 816 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: think he's unlikely for this week, and that next week 817 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 1: might be the one that just reading between like how 818 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,279 Speaker 1: these things sort of go well. 819 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 3: If mattlef Floor plays it like he did last week, 820 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 3: where they run it fifty three times, right, Jort can 821 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,760 Speaker 3: hand it off fifty three times. I'm with you against 822 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 3: this defense which gets after people. I mean, this defense 823 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 3: I think is a little bit more surprising, and the 824 00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 3: way they've been able to get after the quarterback. I 825 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 3: would not put him out there. This is a long 826 00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 3: term play. This is a guy you just signed to 827 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 3: a deal. Patrick, you were talking about. 828 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: They just won a game. They bought themselves a week. 829 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 4: They bought themselves a week. This is going to be 830 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 4: a very tough game to me. 831 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,640 Speaker 3: It's gonna be on the Packers defense to keep forcing 832 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 3: Will Levis to make mistakes. But I would not play 833 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 3: Jordan Love in this game and let Malik Willis try 834 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 3: to get revenge because it's a very different Tennessee team. 835 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: To Okay, So Milik Willis last week, obviously it was 836 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: a lot of handoffs, Yeah, but when they asked him 837 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: to make a throw, he was effective, and when he 838 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: ran a few times, he was effective. And I just 839 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: thought it was really an outstanding story, especially after his 840 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,799 Speaker 1: former teammate Taylor Lwan said on a podcast last week 841 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: about Malik Willis that he likes him, good human being, 842 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: but the guy doesn't really know ball unfortunately, and then 843 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,760 Speaker 1: went through that when it comes to checks and cans 844 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: that he's a tough time seeing safety see in the field, 845 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: which I thought was an unfair thing to say because 846 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: he's in the locker room with this kid as a 847 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,920 Speaker 1: rookie coming out of college, when you know he is 848 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: very raw. So I thought it was very telling how 849 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 1: Matt Lafirre said how impressed he was how quickly Malik 850 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: Willis picked up this offense, that there was only one 851 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: moment in the game that there was any sort of 852 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 1: communication issue or that he could you know, there was 853 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: an issue of like understanding what was going on there, 854 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: and he expected there to be a lot of it 855 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: and that they installed the game plan and he executed 856 00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:55,720 Speaker 1: it to a tee. But Malik Willis was not taking 857 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: the bait this week. Asked whether he wanted to prove 858 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: the Titans wrong, said I could care less. I got 859 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: paid the whole time I was there. I was more blessed. 860 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: I was more than blessed for the opportunity they gave me. 861 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: They brought me into the league, whether those guys are 862 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: there or not. 863 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 4: You know, so spoke like a true Liberty Universe. 864 00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, you don't survive at Liberty University without being able 865 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:16,760 Speaker 5: to respond. 866 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 4: Well. 867 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 5: Ye, two issues that affect you know, many, many different 868 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 5: aspects of your life. And I think like in terms 869 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 5: of because with so much coming in, like oh, he'd 870 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 5: never thrown for one hundred yards, nobody had ever had 871 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 5: fifty yards receiving in a game that Elik will have started. 872 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 5: Those are all out And we now see what it 873 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 5: looks like when a coaching staff is willing to put 874 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,560 Speaker 5: together a game plan, a thoughtful game plan. It's not 875 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 5: just oh yeah, it's a backoup quarterback. Okay, let's go 876 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 5: in and or just let's us. 877 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 1: Run our normal system when the two players are very different. 878 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: This guy is not Ryan tannel Is, not Jordan Love. 879 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: They made it work. 880 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's conceivable. 881 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 5: And again because Steve mentioned the mistakes at a certain point, 882 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 5: it's not like Ken will Levis not make these mistakes. 883 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 5: It's just when is it going to happen? And you'd 884 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,319 Speaker 5: have to think that if it doesn't happen here where 885 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 5: they're playing against a quarterback that they're very familiar with, 886 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 5: perhaps uh in Milik Willis, where the defense has been 887 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 5: so good, if it still happens in this game, it's 888 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 5: just an inevitability, uh, that he's going to give the 889 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 5: ball to the other team in some hilarious sequence of 890 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 5: events like the twenty seventeen Jamis style where it's just yeah. 891 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 4: That's that's it. I mean, that's that is a very 892 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 4: good point. 893 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 2: I mean, just you played pretty well last week. 894 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,600 Speaker 4: I mean other than that point, right, but that but 895 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 4: that's the think about will Levis. He plays pretty well, 896 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 4: but if you don't protect the ball, it doesn't mean jack. 897 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 4: I mean, so I think that's part of it. 898 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 3: Also, real quick to you, Taylor Lawan on Malik Willis, 899 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 3: that was a knock on the leak and that's why 900 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 3: he dropped until the third, So salute to Matt Lafleur 901 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 3: for devising game plans and strategies to play to a 902 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 3: guy strengths, and so. 903 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,640 Speaker 2: To him to developing as a pro. 904 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, and being, like you said, in a system that look, 905 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 1: it set him up because the run game was so creative. 906 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: Like that's what coaching is, like, you take what you 907 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: have and you take advantage. Jaden Reid is this chess 908 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: piece that they're moving all around and is messing with 909 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: the coverages. You could see Jacobs really getting up the 910 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: middle on plays where they got distracted by what was 911 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: happening with Reed. Meanwhile, Tucker Kraft is out there looking 912 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,720 Speaker 1: like Rob Grenkowski, and then it was pretty awesome. The Titans, 913 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: though they need this game, they're owing to they're going 914 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: up against the defense. It's been pretty blah in terms 915 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: of their pass rush in the Packers, so we'll see. 916 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 917 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,839 Speaker 5: Interesting side note, Calvin Ridley had those problems with press 918 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 5: coverage last season. He's got zero yards against press coverage 919 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 5: this season. He's not seeing the ball when he's in 920 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 5: press and he's not necessarily getting open. So looking forward 921 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,840 Speaker 5: to that game. Taking us to his time for the 922 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 5: Game of the Week, presented by Draft Games and you 923 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 5: want to match up to got a whole lot hotter 924 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 5: than it was with two minutes to go in the 925 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 5: game on Monday Night, Kirk Cousins and the resurgent Atlanta 926 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 5: Falcons playing hosts to Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs, 927 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 5: who were favored great by three and a half points. 928 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:02,560 Speaker 5: On Sunday Night Football with Mike Rico and Chris Collinsworth 929 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 5: and everybody. 930 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,320 Speaker 2: Is it hotter? I mean, see, I'm oh, I'm a 931 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:06,919 Speaker 2: dark human. 932 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: And if they were zero and two, I would be 933 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: on like Michael Pennock's watch, And so that would make it. 934 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,000 Speaker 4: Fil a whole lot of right. 935 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: It would just make it like all the bigger and 936 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,919 Speaker 1: now they've sort of bought themselves some times people would 937 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 1: understand if they lose this game. I think the Falcons 938 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: have a chance to win this game, because I just 939 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: think the Chiefs they've just been okay so far. I 940 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: know they've won the games, but I think you do 941 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,800 Speaker 1: got to look past that. 942 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes. They are eighteenth right now in DVOA. 943 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,160 Speaker 1: That's total team efficiency, twenty second in defense, twelfth in offense, 944 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 1: asking a lot out of Xavier Worthy now there's no 945 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 1: Isaiah Pacheco. You're shorthanded there. Travis Kelce hasn't broken forty 946 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: yards on the season yet, like total, So that's just. 947 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 2: Something to keep an eye and they make up for it. 948 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,040 Speaker 1: They still have great players, they have Patrick Mahomes, they 949 00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: have great coaches, but they they strike me as a 950 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: little bit of one of those Patriots teams coming off 951 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl wins. That's like, yeah, they'll find their 952 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: ways to wins, but sometimes it's a little bit on 953 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 1: fumes and this is just not all there yet. 954 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,320 Speaker 4: You nailed it. 955 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 3: I mean when I saw the three and a half, 956 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 3: I was like, that almost seems big. Not because I 957 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 3: think the Falcons are just gonna have an answer for everything, 958 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 3: but right now they're just kind of getting by. I mean, 959 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 3: when you knew the Ravens is gonna be a tough game, 960 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 3: he saw how a challenging of a game that was 961 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 3: in the Ravens bade some second half adjustments. 962 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 4: But they're just kind of getting through it. 963 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 5: Now. 964 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,160 Speaker 4: The Falcons are feeling a little spicy. 965 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 3: They're feeling good about themselves because you saw it with 966 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,640 Speaker 3: Bijon Robinson and Tyler Algyear did in that run game. 967 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:33,000 Speaker 3: That offensive line, you know, the new o c Zach 968 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 3: Robinson said, Oh, this offensive line is designed to run 969 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 3: the ball. 970 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 4: Let's do that. 971 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 3: Now. That's tough slutting when you're going up against stone 972 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 3: Cole Jones and Nick Bolton and and you know some 973 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 3: of the Jew Tranquil and guys like that for Kansas City. 974 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,279 Speaker 3: But they're gonna stick with it. I mean, they're not 975 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 3: gonna put too much pressure on Kirk Cuttins, especially with 976 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 3: the way that the Chiefs can dial up some pressures. 977 00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,160 Speaker 3: But I think this is going to be a competitive 978 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 3: ball game. Again, maybe not so much because of what 979 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 3: the Falcons do, but because it's Chiefs are just kind 980 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,839 Speaker 3: of we're here and there. One one quick thing though, 981 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 3: the fact that not having Pacheco, that's a good point. 982 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,319 Speaker 3: The Falcons linebackers in that game against the Eagles did 983 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 3: not play well. 984 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 4: They did not well. 985 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,560 Speaker 3: They just did not look good. And if you can 986 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 3: run the ball, if Kareem Hunt can come in and 987 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 3: remember some of the plays, Kansas didn't get that run 988 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 3: game going, it is there for the taking, unless all 989 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 3: of a sudden they sink Simons Jesse Bates, who is 990 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 3: out of this world in that game Monday Night can 991 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:27,759 Speaker 3: make a lot of plays. 992 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 5: Well, Jesse Bates is gonna have to be out of 993 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 5: this world in this game, because I understand if you're 994 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,800 Speaker 5: asking a lot of worthy as well as maybe Juju 995 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,800 Speaker 5: Smith Schuster. I don't if Patrick Mahomes has the amount 996 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,359 Speaker 5: of time that Jalen Hurts had on Monday. 997 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 4: Night, good point. I don't I crazy. 998 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,759 Speaker 5: I feel like, don't care great because we're I'm all 999 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 5: on lou ANIUMO for Russian three on fourth and sixteen, 1000 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 5: and it's like if Mahomes has time, of course, like 1001 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 5: the game goes and the Chiefs are up and down 1002 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 5: every single year, but just watching like the sheer amount of. 1003 00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,439 Speaker 4: Time that Jalen Hurts could watch. 1004 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 5: The one time that he didn't have time was towards 1005 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,240 Speaker 5: the end when he throws that pick looking for Devonte 1006 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,359 Speaker 5: Smith because that's that's the only place he was going. 1007 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,920 Speaker 5: I just I can't say, Yeah, the number thirty two 1008 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,319 Speaker 5: pressure rate defense in the league thirty two, but Patrick, whoa, 1009 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 5: The Chiefs just benched their left tackle right. 1010 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 4: This is not the Eagles offensive line. 1011 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,040 Speaker 1: Probably back in this week. But yes, it shows that 1012 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: they're I mean, they've got weaknesses. 1013 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 3: Because Judon did play well. He's just gotten he's playing better. 1014 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 3: I mean, look, he played better. He wasn't seless, but 1015 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 3: in terms of pressure, he was the one guy who 1016 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 3: can win. 1017 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 1: Thirty second in pressure rate. Though that is troubling Grady 1018 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: Jared's looked. Okay. Onyamada is on my radar because I've 1019 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: watched him closely his whole career and he's another one 1020 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: of those guys I mentioned Amari Cooper's kind of one 1021 00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: of the guys. Either it's great or it's just not 1022 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: your year with Onyamada, like you think of him as 1023 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: a great player. In some years he's great, And there 1024 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: were just a couple of those Saints heres where he's 1025 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: like where are you man? And that's what it's been 1026 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: the first two weeks. I do think that, Yeah, the 1027 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,239 Speaker 1: Falcons have a chance. So they just have to dot 1028 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 1: you mentioned it. The offensive line just has to dominate. 1029 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,440 Speaker 1: If the offensive line matches and protects like they got 1030 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,319 Speaker 1: a shot, they got a shot. 1031 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 5: Bijon goes for two twelve two scores. He has a 1032 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 5: Texas line coming up. 1033 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: He could He's the best. I'm already ready to put 1034 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,400 Speaker 1: him there. He's the best running back in the NFL. 1035 00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: He's the guy I would want if I just had one. 1036 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 2: Right, this is. 1037 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 4: Reable, This is a reasonable proposition. 1038 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 1: Sake, right, there probably one two in that game, probably 1039 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 1: won two in that game. All Right, we will take 1040 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: a quick break and then we're going to finish up 1041 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:34,880 Speaker 1: the games just a little bit. Download the DraftKings Sportsbook 1042 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: app now and use the code daily. 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We'll see. 1048 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 2: We're getting to the end of that this show here. 1049 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 5: Okay, Well, let's find out if this is the one. 1050 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 5: Because the undefeated Mike McDonald Seattle Seahawks are a four 1051 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 5: and a half point favorite at home as the Miami 1052 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,800 Speaker 5: Dolphins will literally fly from the other side of the 1053 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 5: planet h to take them on with h without to 1054 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 5: a tongue of ioloa. Skyler Thompson getting the start for 1055 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 5: the Miami Dolphins. So how do we feel about this? 1056 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 4: First off? Can I get an amen on the survivor pick. 1057 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:26,799 Speaker 2: This is me, guys. 1058 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:31,280 Speaker 3: Okay, oh wow, Seahawks, that's my survivor Okay, yeah. 1059 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 4: I've been hot. You know I've been hot on them all. 1060 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 4: All right, what about you, guys? 1061 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 2: I mean talk a little pick behind the curtain. 1062 00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,839 Speaker 1: Let's just be real here where we take a break 1063 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,319 Speaker 1: and uh, Steve tells the producers, you know, Eric behind 1064 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: the glass hide them there too, and you we're gonna 1065 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,239 Speaker 1: you're taking your survivor pick now. And I was like, oh, 1066 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: well that was gonna be my survivor pick. 1067 00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,080 Speaker 4: And I said, oh, I was gonna take Geno and 1068 00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:51,759 Speaker 4: company as well. 1069 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 1: And we could be gout less and spread it out, 1070 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 1: or you could just believe in NFL Daily. 1071 00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,439 Speaker 2: Don't go down with the ship because this is a lock. 1072 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 2: They're winning this game. 1073 00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 3: They're winning this game, and if they don't, they we're 1074 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,759 Speaker 3: all suckers on here next week. But Skyler Thompson going 1075 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 3: coast to coast, playing in that stadium in front of 1076 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:12,920 Speaker 3: the twelves. 1077 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,320 Speaker 1: Right, No, When I look at this matchup, the offensive 1078 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: line of the Dolphins going up against the defensive line, 1079 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: I think that four and a half is disrespectful. 1080 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,399 Speaker 2: I agree, there's there's five or six more games here 1081 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:25,920 Speaker 2: that have a. 1082 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 1: Bigger line, And I don't get it because the Dolphins 1083 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,040 Speaker 1: to me, have not played well. Twa tongue ba Lo 1084 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,440 Speaker 1: was in that game when he got hurt. They were 1085 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,800 Speaker 1: trailing thirty one to ten. I was not impressed. And 1086 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:40,480 Speaker 1: it's not because it's too necessarily or their receivers, but 1087 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: the offensive line has really struggled. The defense has its 1088 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: share of issues, and the Seattle front Patrick they got 1089 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,960 Speaker 1: something going here with the Leonard Williams, Byron Murphy Boye 1090 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: maa Mafe trio. That trio is going to create some 1091 00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 1: issues this season, and we saw it. 1092 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 5: With Vets in McDonald's last year here in Baltimore, and 1093 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 5: it seems like those circumstances are reproducing themselves as this 1094 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 5: system continues to kind of snuff out opposing offenses, with 1095 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 5: some of that being the schedule a little bit. We're 1096 00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 5: gonna find out a little bit more going up against 1097 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:16,080 Speaker 5: this this Dolphins team. 1098 00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 4: But are we though? 1099 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,120 Speaker 5: Like I do think we can expect some growth from 1100 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 5: Thompson because the last time we saw him was two 1101 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,759 Speaker 5: years ago. He's a young guy as well. But it's 1102 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 5: just it's hard to get out this idea of this 1103 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 5: Dolphins offense even struggling with Tua to where he's throwing 1104 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 5: balls to Robbie Chosen, who we love, but he he 1105 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 5: wants runs the wrong route. There's another ball that goes 1106 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,279 Speaker 5: no longer, no longer, yeah, which is which is tough 1107 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,400 Speaker 5: because he that's where he wanted to be spoke to 1108 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,520 Speaker 5: us in the offseason as well. 1109 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,879 Speaker 4: It came in in studio, but it's just it's it's 1110 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:52,759 Speaker 4: not working right now. 1111 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 5: And and now they're going up against the team that 1112 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,240 Speaker 5: that's on the come up where everything's going right for Seattle. 1113 00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 3: This far right, and you know who's one of the fastest, 1114 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 3: if not the fastest dB in the NFL, Treiq Wollen Right, Well, 1115 00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,600 Speaker 3: so he's he's a bigger guy. He might not be 1116 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:06,080 Speaker 3: able to handle some of the shiftingness, but he's a 1117 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 3: guy with speed who can play Devin Witherspoon can kind 1118 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 3: of help out in some of that shorter catching yak 1119 00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,600 Speaker 3: stuff that they'd like to do with Jalen Waddle. So 1120 00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 3: look raheem moster, it looks like he's coming back, right. 1121 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 3: That's gonna help out eight Chan in the run game. 1122 00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 3: So we'll see. But when I look at a Seahawks team. 1123 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 3: To me, they showed a lot last week because Greg, 1124 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 3: we've talked about how good the Patriots defense is going 1125 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 3: to be this year and the fact they had to 1126 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 3: go there and throw it forty four times to win 1127 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 3: a tough game against that defense on the road, cross country, 1128 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 3: and they did it. It goes to show me, you know, 1129 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 3: we see the playmakers. We're looking at DK metcalf on 1130 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,399 Speaker 3: that big TD play against the Patriots. I just think 1131 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 3: that they're going to be able to put up some points. 1132 00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,080 Speaker 3: It's gonna be it could be a fairly tough game. 1133 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,800 Speaker 3: You know, let's just give the Dolphins defense a little credit. 1134 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 3: But the four and a half does seem like a 1135 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,320 Speaker 3: small number for me. 1136 00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,960 Speaker 1: And I know it's just two weeks and that includes 1137 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: a quarter and a half without to it. But yeah, 1138 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: Dolphins offense twenty seventh this year overall in DVOA twenty six, 1139 00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: running the ball the O line. 1140 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: In the past, it was like, Okay, they're banged up. 1141 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: In toront Armstead's day to day McDaniel actually said he's 1142 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: not overly concerned, which I'm surprised by, Like I would 1143 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,160 Speaker 1: always be overly concerned about Toron Armstead, especially when he 1144 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: just left the game. By the way, I just don't 1145 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,560 Speaker 1: know why I'm thinking about this right now, but I 1146 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: wanted to say it. My son was at a Yakult 1147 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,880 Speaker 1: Swallows baseball game in Tokyo. I love it, and on 1148 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:35,239 Speaker 1: the loud speaker they were playing at Tehron armstead rap 1149 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:39,640 Speaker 1: song from the Madden soundtrack, and I'm just saying, that's impressive. 1150 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:43,320 Speaker 1: Toront Armstead has gone like international as a rapper, so 1151 00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: like he's a Walter Payton Man of the Year type 1152 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: of guy. He's a great player, and he's got his 1153 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 1: rap songs being played in Japan. Oh and somehow Walker 1154 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: knew the song. He's like, yeah, I heard Tron Armstead song. 1155 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 3: That is a major come up from from Kahoki, Illinois, 1156 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:57,560 Speaker 3: right outside of Saint Louis. 1157 00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 4: Well done. He's worldwide. Give him the os worldwide. 1158 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,960 Speaker 1: I completely forgot whatever point I was actually making. But yeah, 1159 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 1: their run game has been bad. Tron arms said good, 1160 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,439 Speaker 1: but the run game is bad. 1161 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 5: They needed to be good and we'll see if they 1162 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,919 Speaker 5: can overcome one of the big spreads of the week, 1163 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 5: the next biggest as we go to the Buffalo Bills 1164 00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 5: playing hosts to the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Bills favored by 1165 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 5: five against a number twenty rngth passing efficiency offense seventeenth 1166 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 5: rushing efficiency. They haven't been able to figure things out. 1167 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 5: When they have Steve, they've made crucial mistake. What can 1168 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 5: the Jags do to win this. 1169 00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 3: This is a big number for me because I know 1170 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 3: the Bills have looked unbeatable. The Jags are desperate. I 1171 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 3: think the Jacks come out play a good game. This 1172 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,319 Speaker 3: game with Trevor Lawrence can limits the giveaways. I mean, 1173 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,960 Speaker 3: look at the numbers. Last week, was he fourteen for thirty? 1174 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:45,399 Speaker 3: I mean, do you talk about hit or miss? 1175 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:46,160 Speaker 4: Now? 1176 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 3: He was playing against a very good Browns defense. But 1177 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,440 Speaker 3: now this is where he's got to earn his money, 1178 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:53,919 Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna show up. I think they're 1179 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,239 Speaker 3: going to have a good game plan. I don't know 1180 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 3: if they win this game, but at five looks like 1181 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:00,759 Speaker 3: a big number for me. I do think they're gonna 1182 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,920 Speaker 3: be able to run the ball a little bit. You 1183 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 3: can't ask Trevor to put that ball up, you know, 1184 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,840 Speaker 3: thirty five times a game. They're going to have to 1185 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 3: run the ball. But I think Jacksonville is going to 1186 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 3: give the Bills a very, very tough game here. 1187 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,840 Speaker 1: I look at Trevor, who's thirty first in the NFL 1188 00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: and completion percentage over expected. They were one to four 1189 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 1: in the red zone last year and last week rather 1190 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: which has been a problem. So suddenly you're having problems 1191 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,279 Speaker 1: that are recurring. It's year three with Doug Peterson. There's 1192 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: some real frustration Trevor Lawrence saying he sucks. 1193 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:35,399 Speaker 2: Tug. 1194 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,560 Speaker 1: Peterson seemed pretty downcast after that game. You're not really 1195 00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: used to that. They're twenty six in the league in 1196 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: terms of quick pressure. So the offensive lines not playing 1197 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: well in multiple ways. I think they're twenty ninth and 1198 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,000 Speaker 1: something like contact before getting hit. Their running backs are 1199 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,240 Speaker 1: actually playing well and having a lot of yards after carry. 1200 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:55,840 Speaker 1: But so that's again it's another team where it's the 1201 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,680 Speaker 1: line and it's going up against like a reborn. 1202 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,880 Speaker 2: Bill's line with Vod Miller's playing well, Greg Russo's playing well. 1203 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 2: Oliver played well in that game, so. 1204 00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 4: Vanessa, that's huge. 1205 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 5: And it's this version of safety Josh that we've seen 1206 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,880 Speaker 5: where he's not taking the big risk, mainly because the 1207 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 5: offense is structured differently. The volume of receivers out on 1208 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 5: the field just isn't the same where he's taking deep 1209 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 5: shots down the field and putting the ball in dangerous situations. 1210 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,800 Speaker 4: He's been very careful with the football. He's distributed the 1211 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 4: ball very well. 1212 00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,360 Speaker 5: He did have that one Yeolo Josh run where he 1213 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 5: hurt his hand, but fortunately it got a week after. 1214 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 5: The Dolphins really didn't have a lot to offer against 1215 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 5: the Bills on Thursday night, and then you know Ta 1216 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,240 Speaker 5: gets hurt as well, so not a lot of pressure 1217 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 5: to make him deal with that. And here comes the 1218 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 5: struggling Jags scene where the Bills might just march on 1219 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:45,520 Speaker 5: to three and O. 1220 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:45,879 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1221 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 3: You know the one thing I do like about the Bills, 1222 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 3: and we all knew coming in because of what they 1223 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 3: did at wide retiever they were going to be a 1224 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 3: tight end centric team and do some things with James Cook. 1225 00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 4: They have done that. 1226 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 3: Plus, I mean they have accentuated a two tight end look. 1227 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 3: James Cook has been absolutely fantastic. Now there's two games 1228 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,479 Speaker 3: of film on that, all right. Is Joe Brady gonna 1229 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,040 Speaker 3: continue to be because he's always been known as a 1230 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,000 Speaker 3: great play schemer. It was a play calling that was 1231 00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:12,960 Speaker 3: something he had to learn. 1232 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,160 Speaker 4: Well. 1233 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 3: He looks like he's learned his butt off in terms 1234 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 3: of calling a great game. And I think this is 1235 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 3: gonna be a good challenge for him because we do 1236 00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,359 Speaker 3: you know, the Jags d front. They've got some talent 1237 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 3: there and they've got some linebackers who can run and 1238 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,440 Speaker 3: not let James Cook get runs like good runs off 1239 00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,080 Speaker 3: like this. So again, I think it's going to be 1240 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,400 Speaker 3: a really really good challenge. But you know, salute to 1241 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:34,480 Speaker 3: Joe Brady with those guys are doing up there with 1242 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:35,880 Speaker 3: that two tight end look offense. 1243 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think the Jacks offense has been 1244 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:41,600 Speaker 1: their issue. They've scored thirty points on offense through two weeks, 1245 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,400 Speaker 1: I believe, and so you know that's been the issue. 1246 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: And they are playing though a couple rookies or young 1247 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,400 Speaker 1: players rather in the secondary. Jerry and Jones is a 1248 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,319 Speaker 1: rookie and then Buster Brown is a young player because 1249 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,040 Speaker 1: they're without Darnell Savage at least last week they were 1250 00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,480 Speaker 1: who's their nickelback, and they're without the best cornerback, Tyson Campbell, 1251 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,560 Speaker 1: So that that worries me. Going against a pretty diverse 1252 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,960 Speaker 1: passing attack with the Bills. I like this Bills team. 1253 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 1: They were my Super Bowl team. 1254 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 4: They are good. 1255 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:10,800 Speaker 1: They could change their game plan week to week. I 1256 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,960 Speaker 1: noticed that in the Miami game. No blitz and stuff. 1257 00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:15,239 Speaker 1: That's what you get with a veteran team, a veteran coach. 1258 00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: Like they're a little People say, oh, it's the preseason. 1259 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,399 Speaker 1: It's extended preseason team like the Bills, a veteran team 1260 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:21,479 Speaker 1: maybe are a little more ready. 1261 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,319 Speaker 4: Five points feels like a little a bit much. 1262 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,920 Speaker 5: I would feel more comfortable in another spot where the 1263 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 5: Jags ro and two, but they were in. 1264 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,520 Speaker 4: They were in both of those games, and we're kind 1265 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:32,759 Speaker 4: of fun. 1266 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,440 Speaker 2: This is the early Monday night game. 1267 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,600 Speaker 1: We should point out, Yes, Chris Fowler or Lavski and 1268 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: Riddick action, we're back to the double headers. How do 1269 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:41,239 Speaker 1: you feel about the doubleheaders? 1270 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 4: Guys love it? I love it. You don't like it? Patrick? 1271 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,319 Speaker 4: I support every decision the night. 1272 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 5: Here's, here's and again exceedingly diplomatic because again I support 1273 00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 5: and carry the shield and we'll stand in front of 1274 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:53,640 Speaker 5: it and take whatever fire. 1275 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1276 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:58,160 Speaker 5: I like the afternoon slate on Sundays. It's where it's 1277 00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:01,279 Speaker 5: where our work, we do Game day Live. I don't 1278 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:04,840 Speaker 5: like losing a game. Wow from the afternoon on Sunday, 1279 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 5: because sometimes we run into a situation where we get 1280 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,920 Speaker 5: the Cowboys in the Saints and people are out there 1281 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 5: looking for a game to watch. 1282 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 4: Sure, and the game might not. 1283 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,200 Speaker 1: Where's Jack's bills? It's on Monday night early. The only 1284 00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: issue I have is just don't why put them at 1285 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: the same time. Let's go back to back. You can 1286 00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,520 Speaker 1: deal with whatever little ratings hit you have for starting 1287 00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: it at five thirty or I don't care, You'll get plenty. 1288 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,200 Speaker 2: It's an NFL game. 1289 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: Go back to back and have about fifteen minutes in 1290 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,360 Speaker 1: between for everyone to get a beverage. 1291 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 3: Wait, I know you stand behind the shield. I'm gonna 1292 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:38,440 Speaker 3: step in front of it and want to take a 1293 00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:40,200 Speaker 3: big hit because you know how they're going to compute 1294 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 3: the numbers. 1295 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,200 Speaker 4: Oh, THEOK combine not right? For Monday night? 1296 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,359 Speaker 3: Are gonna be seventy eight million viewers on all platforms 1297 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 3: with these two games? 1298 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:48,799 Speaker 4: Right? 1299 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: Because and then too many people miss the game because 1300 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,399 Speaker 1: they're watching one or the other. Titans Dolphins last year 1301 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,879 Speaker 1: was the perfect example. That was one of the most 1302 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: astounding football game I have ever seen, and most people 1303 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: didn't see it because they thought the game was over 1304 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 1: and they're too busy watching Tommy Cutlets over. 1305 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:08,840 Speaker 2: There on ABC. 1306 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,399 Speaker 4: Picture and Picture guy. 1307 00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,320 Speaker 1: I was downstairs to you know, working for a Channel 1308 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:16,600 Speaker 1: five shout out to the UK audience, but yes, if I. 1309 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,640 Speaker 5: Could get TV manufacturers to understand that we've been in 1310 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:22,080 Speaker 5: sixteen by nine by over a decade now, we got 1311 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,960 Speaker 5: to figure out a picture and picture that serves both parties. 1312 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,920 Speaker 5: In the picture of picture, I'll hop off my floatbox 1313 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 5: and we'll go to the return of the line himself, 1314 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 5: Andy Dalton starting for the Carolina Panthers at the Las 1315 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:39,840 Speaker 5: Vegas Raiders, who were favored by five and a half points. 1316 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,160 Speaker 5: Dave Canalis was emphatic he is not making quarterback change. 1317 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 5: He believes in Bryce. Less than twenty four hours later, 1318 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 5: Bryce Young going to the bench in favor of the 1319 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:51,760 Speaker 5: veteran Andy Dalton and the Raiders and Gardner Minshew coming 1320 00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 5: off a big win in Baltimore over the Ravens greg 1321 00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 5: five and a half points. 1322 00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 4: Feel comfortable there. 1323 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 2: No, you know, Andy Dalton. I love you, man, I 1324 00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:03,200 Speaker 2: love that. 1325 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 1: I love that your court side at the US Open, 1326 00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: just chilling the weekend before the season starts. I love 1327 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 1: that our great friend Chris Westling came up with the 1328 00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:18,280 Speaker 1: Dalton scale ten plus years ago now that if you 1329 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,480 Speaker 1: have a quarterback better than Anti Dalton, you have a 1330 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,160 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, and if you don't, then you need a 1331 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. And that is the Dalton scale. And here 1332 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,560 Speaker 1: we are in twenty twenty four in the studio named 1333 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,960 Speaker 1: for Chris and it's still true. He's still that guy. 1334 00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:37,280 Speaker 1: You need a solid starter, a veteran to come in 1335 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 1: and just be average, to be your version of Gardner Minshew. 1336 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,000 Speaker 2: Andy Dalton to do that for you. 1337 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,800 Speaker 1: As long as he stays healthy, I would take him 1338 00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:44,880 Speaker 1: over Gardner Minshew, he. 1339 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 4: Would do that for you. With those Bengals teams he 1340 00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,640 Speaker 4: played on, I feel bad for him playing. 1341 00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: He looked pretty good when he played for the Panthers 1342 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,080 Speaker 1: last year with a shootout one game. 1343 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,280 Speaker 4: But it was a shoot last year, Okay last year. 1344 00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 3: Right now, he's wishing he was Ryan Tannehill, who was 1345 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,560 Speaker 3: publicly said a few times times, I am only going 1346 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 3: to expose my body to the right situation, Ryan Tannehill, 1347 00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,720 Speaker 3: I'm sorry. The red rifle. 1348 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 7: Andy Dalton, you know, think he wants to play a 1349 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 7: little football again. Maybe, but behind these guys, look I watched. 1350 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 7: I was at that Raiders Ravens game. That Raiders defense 1351 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 7: is real. Patrick Graham has some real dudes, and he 1352 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:26,360 Speaker 7: is coming up with some creative schemes. Getting an athletic 1353 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 7: d tackle like Christian Wilkins has allowed him to run 1354 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 7: a ton of games up front. Max Crosby not just 1355 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 7: winning coming off the edge. You saw him duck under. 1356 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,960 Speaker 7: They were doing some great twist and stunts up there. 1357 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 7: And we have seen that the Carolina Panthers have looked 1358 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:43,560 Speaker 7: at that there's one right there. We have seen the 1359 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:47,480 Speaker 7: Carolina Panthers have not been able to block anyone. Greg, 1360 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 7: you and me are gonna combo for at least a 1361 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:51,640 Speaker 7: half sack against that front. 1362 00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:53,520 Speaker 2: I think I would struggle to get off my block 1363 00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:54,800 Speaker 2: off the ground. 1364 00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 4: I mean, I look this. 1365 00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 3: The Carolina Panthers are a hot mess. Is much as 1366 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 3: we could blame it on Bryce and he has not 1367 01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 3: played well. 1368 01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,560 Speaker 4: He has earned not. 1369 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 3: Playing, but not everything he's been exposed to this against 1370 01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 3: this defense, that five and a half number is small. 1371 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 3: I think I think the Raiders defense might get a 1372 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:14,320 Speaker 3: score too. 1373 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 1: That's fair. J Davin Clowney, you mentioned coming off an 1374 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,080 Speaker 1: injury did not have any impact in that game. No 1375 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,440 Speaker 1: quarterback hits. So far the scene, jac Horn has showed 1376 01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: up made some big plays. The Raiders are a really 1377 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,800 Speaker 1: weird offense, Patrick. They only have two first downs rushing 1378 01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:32,720 Speaker 1: on the season. They're averaging two point five yards per carry. 1379 01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,680 Speaker 1: That would obviously be the worst rushing team in the 1380 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,040 Speaker 1: history of football. And yet brock Bauers looks like, you know, 1381 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: maybe already the best tight end. 1382 01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 4: In the league. You can make real deal. 1383 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 2: And Gardner Minshew is in the top three. 1384 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: I could not believe this on intermedia and deep throws 1385 01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,280 Speaker 1: this year, he's in the top three in every metric. 1386 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Now he hasn't thrown that many, but when he's thrown them, 1387 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,760 Speaker 1: they've been very effective, a lot of them. 1388 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,720 Speaker 5: And shout out to Josh Norris were pointing out the 1389 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 5: particular route that brock Bowers is running a ton right now. 1390 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:01,240 Speaker 5: He's dragging across the middle and then using that speed 1391 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,480 Speaker 5: and versatility to come back out to the outside where 1392 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,840 Speaker 5: nobody is. And so now you're in a bind where 1393 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,680 Speaker 5: you're having to defend Brockbowers literally fifty yards all across 1394 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,200 Speaker 5: the field, as well as DeVante Adams behind that. I 1395 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 5: don't know when they figure out the run game in 1396 01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 5: Zamir White and how that goes. I don't think winning 1397 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,080 Speaker 5: the game is going to be a question here because 1398 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,919 Speaker 5: even right which is apparently reck conning the greatest start 1399 01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,720 Speaker 5: of all time by Andy Dalton two years ago in 1400 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,480 Speaker 5: Seattle where they lose the football game anyway, and he 1401 01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,320 Speaker 5: throws the ball fifty eight times for three hundred and 1402 01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,320 Speaker 5: sixty one yards, I just all love to Andy Dalton. 1403 01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,960 Speaker 5: I'm just I'm not seeing it with this Carolina Panthers. Oh, 1404 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,600 Speaker 5: I feel so bad, but maybe you know, the offensive 1405 01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 5: genius of Dave Canalis shows something to me. It improves 1406 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 5: that why is he's in this position in the first 1407 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:53,040 Speaker 5: when they. 1408 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,600 Speaker 3: Show this game, can you imagine the cutaways to Pribace 1409 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:57,160 Speaker 3: young on the sidelines. I mean, they're going to be 1410 01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 3: living on those cutaways just to see him. 1411 01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 2: Let's go and look, he's their backup. 1412 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,240 Speaker 1: And Andy Dalton has has has struggled the difference between 1413 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,440 Speaker 1: young Andy Dalton and older any Olton that I've been 1414 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,160 Speaker 1: able to tell us that he just can't stay on 1415 01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 1: the field lately. 1416 01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 2: He's been getting hurt pretty quickly when. 1417 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 3: He number ninety eight Max Crosby, who is who's arguably 1418 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 3: playing better than anybody in the NFL. Uh is coming Sunday, 1419 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 3: which which is bananas because he still doesn't come off 1420 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 3: the field. No, it was bananas a couple of years 1421 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,640 Speaker 3: ago when we're talking about mac crosby playing every single snap. 1422 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 5: He's still doing it, which is a certa. But like, 1423 01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 5: what do you even say he's at that point? I 1424 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 5: would you even say? I just don't know. I feel 1425 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,480 Speaker 5: bad Brandy Tallton this week, man, we'll see. We'll see 1426 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,960 Speaker 5: Andy show, US show US, Dave show, US Carolina Panthers. 1427 01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,800 Speaker 5: Let's go to the New York Giants who had a tough, 1428 01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:52,520 Speaker 5: heartbreaking loss. Perhaps they figured out, uh, if they're going 1429 01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:53,800 Speaker 5: to have a kicker and if they're going to have 1430 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,480 Speaker 5: that kick the football at the Cleveland Browns, who are 1431 01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 5: favored by six and a half. 1432 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:03,320 Speaker 4: Wow, over is not a big number. Thirty eight and 1433 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 4: a half. There's gonna be enough points to get there. 1434 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:11,880 Speaker 1: Greg probably not, but the Giants defense is involved and 1435 01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: it got it passed. Meant my notice that they did 1436 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:23,000 Speaker 1: not have a stop last Sunday that the Washington Commanders, 1437 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 1: Now they didn't score touchdown, I get it, but they 1438 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: got the ball and they scored every single time they 1439 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 1: got the ball. 1440 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 2: That that does not happen too often. That is insane. 1441 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,720 Speaker 1: They're not doing anything well, like the big defensive line 1442 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:38,800 Speaker 1: up front, they're not really doing much, and then they 1443 01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:41,160 Speaker 1: kind of play this soft zone where they allow a 1444 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,960 Speaker 1: lot of short passes. Their their run game, in terms 1445 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,560 Speaker 1: of their defense, has not been good. Their defensive backs 1446 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 1: are getting put in position where they have to make 1447 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 1: tackles and they're not making tackles. And I just think 1448 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 1: Stefanski will be good enough like you, and the run 1449 01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: game will be good enough. You could see it against 1450 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Jacksonville when they were in that first fifteen script. Deshaun 1451 01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 1: Watson looked very comfortable. They knew what they were doing. 1452 01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 1: They were all instinct. The rest of the game wasn't 1453 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,520 Speaker 1: so great. He weirdly just doesn't look that athletic anymore 1454 01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:12,480 Speaker 1: and his arms looks a little weird, but it was enough. 1455 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:13,840 Speaker 2: He was much better in week two. 1456 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,919 Speaker 1: If they can get that version of Deshaun Watson, which 1457 01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:19,400 Speaker 1: is just like good enough, they can score on the Giants. 1458 01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's wasn't that a crazy game? 1459 01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,960 Speaker 3: I mean they score three touchdowns, they don't get any 1460 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:28,800 Speaker 3: padies and then Washington because Jayden Daniels is getting every 1461 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 3: third nineteen and running for first downs over and over 1462 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 3: wins by getting what. 1463 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 1: Eight Sometimes they were just hitting like these like short 1464 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: passes and then running for it, like come on, it's. 1465 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:47,280 Speaker 5: Almost the game directly decided upstairs before the game. One 1466 01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 5: team has a kicker problem. They go sign a kicker. 1467 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 5: He comes in that week and hits seven field goals. 1468 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 5: The other teams makes a decision to have the punter 1469 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,000 Speaker 5: kick extra points and field goals. He misses one, and 1470 01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,760 Speaker 5: then they pun on that plan literally figuratively, and and 1471 01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 5: it's just all over and they lose the game because 1472 01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,520 Speaker 5: because they can't do one or the other. 1473 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,960 Speaker 1: I do have something positive to say about the Giants 1474 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,720 Speaker 1: have this Okay, We've been talking on this on the 1475 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,919 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast and then now on on NFL 1476 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 1: Daily that the Giants offensive line has never once been 1477 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 1: good since I've covered the NFL. Maybe I guess back, 1478 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, and Eli Manning it was great, but I 1479 01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,720 Speaker 1: mean in the in the like caught the late Cofughlin 1480 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,760 Speaker 1: to now era, the offensive line has not been their 1481 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 1: issue the first two weeks. This will be a much 1482 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,120 Speaker 1: tougher test but by the metrics, by the eye test. Actually, 1483 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:35,280 Speaker 1: they've been quite good through two weeks, and their offense 1484 01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,919 Speaker 1: was fine against Washington. Now it was a much, much, 1485 01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:41,040 Speaker 1: much tougher matchup. I don't know if the offense can 1486 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:45,320 Speaker 1: continue to be Hey, ask on the sideline to Maleak Neighbors, 1487 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,760 Speaker 1: what plays do you like? That's what Brian Dealey do 1488 01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: and then and then doing them that'll work against Washington. 1489 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:52,760 Speaker 2: I think you just need more. You need more than 1490 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:53,960 Speaker 2: just that he's special. 1491 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,200 Speaker 5: And then over on the other side, right, because offensive 1492 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 5: line issues have been a problem for Cleveland as well, 1493 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,000 Speaker 5: who have not had their starting tackles at any point. 1494 01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 5: Aren't they coming back though, haven't even practicing And we'll see. Yeah, 1495 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,680 Speaker 5: I think Jack Conklin Okay, I'm gonna have to say. 1496 01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: I think they're both back, but Dwan Jones was not, 1497 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,640 Speaker 1: so now we'll see that. I think they're hopeful. Maybe 1498 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 1: they might get their tackles back this week. Yeah, their 1499 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:16,560 Speaker 1: original starters. 1500 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,880 Speaker 5: I think one thing, and it comes from another game 1501 01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,919 Speaker 5: on Monday night where I saw Eagles fans talking about 1502 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,120 Speaker 5: Jaylen losing a step before he had those big rushes, 1503 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,920 Speaker 5: and the difference to me was the decisiveness on that. 1504 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 5: When Jalen was decisive, he put his foot in the 1505 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 5: ground and he was getting upfield. 1506 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:33,840 Speaker 4: He was getting a lot of yardage. 1507 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 5: We haven't seen a decisive Deshaun Watson other than like Greg, 1508 01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 5: you mentioned those those scripted players. They get things get 1509 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:43,120 Speaker 5: in the second half and they get weird. He starts 1510 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 5: bouncing with the football. Some of that's probably not having 1511 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 5: the tackles. Some of that is just him regressing as 1512 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:52,400 Speaker 5: a football player. I think we'll learn something a little 1513 01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 5: bit if they can get those tackles real quick. 1514 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:55,439 Speaker 3: Do you think he's an opportunity? Him and a Marik 1515 01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,720 Speaker 3: Cooper have not hit it off so far these first 1516 01:06:57,720 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 3: two games. Is this a game where the they foresheet 1517 01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:00,439 Speaker 3: him again early? 1518 01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:01,440 Speaker 4: I think this is. 1519 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, You're going up against Cordell flat and no known 1520 01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 1: na Joku Dori Jackson knowing Djoku that this this Giants 1521 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 1: team just isn't isn't very talented, and the defensively, I 1522 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,080 Speaker 1: think they've been left wanty. I think they were hoping 1523 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 1: to be better defensively and so far they haven't been 1524 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,560 Speaker 1: any better on defense. 1525 01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:22,680 Speaker 3: Just don't ask Brian Dable about his job security. Greg, 1526 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:27,040 Speaker 3: He's gonna tear you down. Well, elite neighbors has job security, 1527 01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:27,560 Speaker 3: Yes he does. 1528 01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,880 Speaker 5: If we want to be positive about the New York Giants, 1529 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:33,440 Speaker 5: protect that man at all costs less. One day, the 1530 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,439 Speaker 5: biggest win of the week, like it was this week 1531 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:38,480 Speaker 5: for the Giants, was celebrating somebody else dropping a football 1532 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,120 Speaker 5: on Monday Night Football, where the entire Giants beat is 1533 01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:43,160 Speaker 5: talking about Saquan. 1534 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,440 Speaker 4: Maybe maybe they can get something to enjoy out here 1535 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:48,680 Speaker 4: a little bit. 1536 01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:55,160 Speaker 5: Greg, Maybe maybe next game the Denver Broncos at m 1537 01:07:55,280 --> 01:08:01,480 Speaker 5: VP candidate Greg Baker Mayfield the Tampa Bay Buccaneers six 1538 01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:04,680 Speaker 5: and a half point favorites at the big Pirate ship 1539 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:06,600 Speaker 5: down there in Tampa Bay. 1540 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,240 Speaker 4: Greg, you scoff at the idea, I do. 1541 01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:13,120 Speaker 5: If they've voted today, would Baker Mayfield not be the 1542 01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,360 Speaker 5: most Valuable player in the National Football I don't know. 1543 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:20,640 Speaker 1: I haven't thought that through. I'm not in favor of 1544 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:29,759 Speaker 1: MVP talk before week seven. Oh, I'm giving it to Kyler. 1545 01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:30,240 Speaker 2: How about that? 1546 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:34,080 Speaker 4: I thought it might be Kmara josh Allen. Maybe Kamara 1547 01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:34,840 Speaker 4: Josh Allen. 1548 01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:36,000 Speaker 2: Camara would be fun. 1549 01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 1: You're right, though, when Baker Mayfield is like the best 1550 01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,280 Speaker 1: runner on the team, you know things are going crazy. 1551 01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 1: I yeah, I guess I'll pose this question to you guys, like, 1552 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:48,720 Speaker 1: do you think Baker is just more athletic now or 1553 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 1: is he just like on a heater because he actually is. 1554 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,439 Speaker 1: The thing people would get on him for is like 1555 01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,280 Speaker 1: he would try to make plays in the pros that 1556 01:08:56,320 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 1: he would try to make in college. But it's like, 1557 01:08:57,960 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 1: you can't do that in the pros. But the last 1558 01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:02,240 Speaker 1: weeks he kind of has been doing that in the pros. 1559 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,480 Speaker 4: Greg, sounds like you're insinuating he's on some special gatorade. 1560 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: No, no, I'm not saying that. I'm saying is he 1561 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,040 Speaker 1: on a hot streaker? Is he legitimately just better that 1562 01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 1: now he can be like creator Baker? 1563 01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:18,360 Speaker 3: Hey, look, man's he looks fantastic. His offensive line is 1564 01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:21,040 Speaker 3: playing well. I just think he's having fun and seeing 1565 01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:21,720 Speaker 3: the game better. 1566 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:22,479 Speaker 4: Right. 1567 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:26,080 Speaker 3: He knows when to use whatever athleticism he has to 1568 01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,600 Speaker 3: his advantage. But I just think he's playing with supreme confidence. 1569 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:34,640 Speaker 3: We know he is a talented player, right, He's a 1570 01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,400 Speaker 3: football player too. He's got that in him. He's got 1571 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 3: something to him and the way his teammates respond to him, 1572 01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:44,559 Speaker 3: that's such a big part in playing that position. Those 1573 01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,639 Speaker 3: guys clearly like playing with him and they believe in him. 1574 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,120 Speaker 3: So knowing that your teammates have your back, it's got 1575 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,479 Speaker 3: something he is. He'sn't playing fantastic and this game for 1576 01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,760 Speaker 3: Tampa Bay, the six and a half seems a little 1577 01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,679 Speaker 3: wide to me, even though they're at. 1578 01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,400 Speaker 4: Home playing a Denver team. Poor Bo Nicks. 1579 01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 3: I mean, he's baptism by fire all these defenses he's 1580 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:07,880 Speaker 3: had to play, coming off of playing the Steelers, now 1581 01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,760 Speaker 3: coming into a game where Todd Bowles is going to 1582 01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:13,439 Speaker 3: show him seventy five different looks, It's going to be 1583 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,080 Speaker 3: a challenge, But I think this is going to be 1584 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,320 Speaker 3: a tighter game at what we expect. When I see 1585 01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 3: this over under at forty, I think that's probably about 1586 01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 3: the perfect spot. 1587 01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 5: It's just a question of how many points to the 1588 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 5: Broncos that offer into that equation. Because we've talked now 1589 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 5: for two weeks, Greg, Yeah, about the depth of target 1590 01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:34,760 Speaker 5: for bow Knicks. The weird NFL prost that came up 1591 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 5: to me. He has the deepest dropback depth in the 1592 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,840 Speaker 5: NFL right now. He's nine point one yards behind the 1593 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:44,600 Speaker 5: line of scrimmage. And so you take Bo Nix's difficulty 1594 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,960 Speaker 5: getting the ball down the field and make the fact 1595 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:49,200 Speaker 5: that he's he's actually even throwing the ball farther does he. 1596 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:50,360 Speaker 4: Have a negative plus minus? 1597 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,519 Speaker 2: It's right well, and that puts your tackles in a 1598 01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:54,040 Speaker 2: bad spot. 1599 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:54,760 Speaker 4: Hate it now. 1600 01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 1: Garrett Bowles is coming off of an injury and hasn't 1601 01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 1: maybe been at his normal form, and they they lost 1602 01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:02,160 Speaker 1: Mike McGlinchey. 1603 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:06,320 Speaker 2: He is out I believe about a month their right tackle. 1604 01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:10,400 Speaker 1: And yeah, you do wonder if Sean Payton just doesn't 1605 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,439 Speaker 1: have it anymore, because the one thing you always knew 1606 01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,439 Speaker 1: about Sean Payton teams is they were going to block 1607 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,479 Speaker 1: better than you expect they were, and they were gonna 1608 01:11:17,479 --> 01:11:19,439 Speaker 1: have a running game. That was always a secret sauce. 1609 01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 1: And actually the Broncos last year I thought did that 1610 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:24,519 Speaker 1: Like you wouldn't have thought they would have been a 1611 01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:25,400 Speaker 1: good offensive line. 1612 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 2: They were. 1613 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,920 Speaker 1: This couple weeks, they've they've looked a little broken and 1614 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:33,679 Speaker 1: maybe maybe that's Nicks. But this is a tricky matchup 1615 01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 1: because of the scheme. On the other hand, Klijah Kansi 1616 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: has been out for the last couple of weeks. Vita 1617 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,799 Speaker 1: Vea's out of practice Wednesday, We've talked about Winfield. They're 1618 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 1: shorthanded in the secondary, so there are a lot of 1619 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 1: injuries for the Bucks who are getting great play by 1620 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:47,360 Speaker 1: the way by Zion McCollums. 1621 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 2: So that's good internal scouting. You trade away Carlton Davis. 1622 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,640 Speaker 1: People were like, really you're gonna start Zion McCollum, and 1623 01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:53,559 Speaker 1: he's looked really good. 1624 01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:56,360 Speaker 3: Well again and Todd Bowles he gets off the bus blitzing. 1625 01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,560 Speaker 3: I mean that that whole expression. Bo Nix's going to 1626 01:11:58,600 --> 01:12:01,040 Speaker 3: see a lot of looks. Now, something Sean Payton is 1627 01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 3: unfamiliar with. With Bowennix taking that deep drop. Maybe Drew 1628 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 3: Brees did it, but the one thing Drew Brees did 1629 01:12:05,800 --> 01:12:08,240 Speaker 3: would climb the pocket six yards. I mean that might 1630 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,439 Speaker 3: be something Bowenix has to do because Sean Payton would 1631 01:12:10,479 --> 01:12:13,600 Speaker 3: build his offensive lines guard center guard instead of with 1632 01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:15,760 Speaker 3: the tackles, and that's something they've just got to get 1633 01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 3: better at. 1634 01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,720 Speaker 1: I want to continue this Baker talk at some point, 1635 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: because yeah, it did start. 1636 01:12:20,120 --> 01:12:21,080 Speaker 4: He's not on the island either. 1637 01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,439 Speaker 1: Started to occur to me though, is he gonna he 1638 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,280 Speaker 1: is trending towards more of a Jared Goff type career 1639 01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:32,920 Speaker 1: than like a Jacoby Brissette type of career and I'm dangerous, 1640 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:34,800 Speaker 1: that's right. I Mean, he got a nice contract, but 1641 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,560 Speaker 1: he kind of got the he kind of got the 1642 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:41,080 Speaker 1: geno in between this first contract. But if he's really 1643 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:43,280 Speaker 1: Jared Goff and having that kind of career like after 1644 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:44,920 Speaker 1: this year or the next like and then he gets 1645 01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:47,560 Speaker 1: another big, one fifty three million year, we will we 1646 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:51,519 Speaker 1: will see. Also keep an eye on Patrick Certan, who 1647 01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:54,680 Speaker 1: has traveled with the teams opposing best wide receiver in 1648 01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,600 Speaker 1: both games against Mike Evans. That's a fun matchup. This 1649 01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,360 Speaker 1: Broncos team has been blitzing like crazy. Actually more than 1650 01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,120 Speaker 1: the Bucks, more than any team in the NFL. The 1651 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: Broncos have been blitzing. We will take one final break, 1652 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,680 Speaker 1: and yes we'll talk about the NFC champions from a 1653 01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,519 Speaker 1: few years ago and last year and the AFC champions 1654 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 1: from a few years ago ago. Back on NFL Daily, 1655 01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,880 Speaker 1: starting with a NFC West game. That was the NFC 1656 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:37,040 Speaker 1: championship a few years back, and we thought maybe it'd 1657 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:42,280 Speaker 1: be a potential one this year. Meanwhile, on Wednesday's NFL Daily, 1658 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,760 Speaker 1: Jordan rod Rieg of The Athletic our Friend was saying, yeah, 1659 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 1: the real battle might be with the Cardinals and the 1660 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 1: Seahawks in this division that's getting a little over our skis. 1661 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,320 Speaker 1: I think when it comes to the forty nine, I. 1662 01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,760 Speaker 5: Don't know that it is Greg Wow, everybody's getting hurt 1663 01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,400 Speaker 5: this right, game is between two teams who are dealing 1664 01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:01,400 Speaker 5: with the litton any of injuries. Yes, it is the 1665 01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:04,000 Speaker 5: San Francisco forty nine Ers who are a seven point 1666 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 5: favorite at SOFI Stadium against the Los Angeles Rams. Gonna 1667 01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,840 Speaker 5: be a Fox game with Adam I Mean and Mark 1668 01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:14,439 Speaker 5: Sanchez on the call. The Rams decimated by injuries, Steve, 1669 01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,479 Speaker 5: they could not stay on the field with the Arizona 1670 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,400 Speaker 5: Cardinals last week. And over on the other side, this 1671 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,439 Speaker 5: is a forty nine Ers team that without Deebo Samuel 1672 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,559 Speaker 5: takes a significant drop off. 1673 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:28,560 Speaker 3: I see he seems a significant drop off. This is 1674 01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:31,719 Speaker 3: the Brandon Ayuk breakthrough game, right. Brandon Ayuk's been quiet 1675 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 3: the first two weeks. This is his game because the 1676 01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:39,080 Speaker 3: Rams defense is battered, right, we talk about energies on 1677 01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,160 Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. They you know, in the secondary, 1678 01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:44,320 Speaker 3: they're banged up. They're not getting a ton of pass rush. 1679 01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,639 Speaker 3: I think this is where Ayuk really gets his Jordan 1680 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:52,360 Speaker 3: Mason's gonna continue to run the ball. I think the offense, yes, 1681 01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:54,599 Speaker 3: you're gonna miss Deebo Shami. You can scheme up everything 1682 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:57,519 Speaker 3: you want, but just this is personnel personnel, and I 1683 01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:59,960 Speaker 3: think that's where you know, the forty nine ers are 1684 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,400 Speaker 3: defense's best. And then defensively for the forty nine Ers, 1685 01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,919 Speaker 3: this is where they could eat. I mean, Matthew Stafford, 1686 01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:12,160 Speaker 3: he's going to be feeling it. Bosa Floyd and you 1687 01:15:12,240 --> 01:15:14,360 Speaker 3: talked about your MVP, we talk about Baker. Maybe, Fred 1688 01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:16,639 Speaker 3: Warner and Max Crosby to me have been playing better 1689 01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:18,599 Speaker 3: than any players in the NFL. 1690 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:21,320 Speaker 4: I just can't see how the Rams are going to 1691 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 4: get to the end zone. 1692 01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 5: Right. 1693 01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:25,559 Speaker 1: It's hard to imagine Fred Warner improving because I think 1694 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,720 Speaker 1: he's on a Hall of Fame trajectory, and yet he 1695 01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:30,720 Speaker 1: seems to be at another level these last two games. 1696 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:34,040 Speaker 2: Is as good as a linebacker can play. 1697 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:35,760 Speaker 1: That's the thing with the forty nine ers, like, yes, 1698 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,800 Speaker 1: they're missing really important pieces that they probably can't get 1699 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,680 Speaker 1: to where they want to go without having most of 1700 01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,040 Speaker 1: them back. On the other hand, they still have more 1701 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,400 Speaker 1: talent than I would say twenty seven teams in the 1702 01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,360 Speaker 1: league with the talent that is remaining on both sides. 1703 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,479 Speaker 2: Compare that to the Rams, where. 1704 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 1: Yeah they're twenty eighth in DVOA right now, twenty ninth 1705 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,599 Speaker 1: in defense, where the defense really hasn't been that injured. 1706 01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:00,439 Speaker 1: I know they lost John Johnson their safety week, but 1707 01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 1: most of those, almost all the injuries has been on 1708 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,880 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football, where they're just decimated 1709 01:16:06,080 --> 01:16:08,800 Speaker 1: and they're just not they're not good enough. They do 1710 01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,040 Speaker 1: get Alec Jackson back from suspension, who's their left tackle, 1711 01:16:12,080 --> 01:16:15,240 Speaker 1: But it's kind of an organizational gut check type of 1712 01:16:15,320 --> 01:16:17,519 Speaker 1: game because that was embarrassing a week ago. It's your 1713 01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:21,320 Speaker 1: home opener against your biggest rival. I tend to think 1714 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,040 Speaker 1: that they're going to show up in this game and 1715 01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:28,720 Speaker 1: give it a great effort and a representative game where 1716 01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:30,720 Speaker 1: it's going to be a close game. These games, even 1717 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:32,720 Speaker 1: when the Rams were really bad a couple of years ago, 1718 01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,519 Speaker 1: early in the season when they were struggling, they showed 1719 01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,800 Speaker 1: up for these forty nine ers games and made them close. 1720 01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:39,920 Speaker 2: Then they would lose. But I have a feeling that 1721 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:40,599 Speaker 2: that will happen. 1722 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:44,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, they're making it close and lose part plays into it. 1723 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,519 Speaker 5: It's just very because I'm looking at last season with him, 1724 01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:53,599 Speaker 5: without Cooper Cup, Matthew Stafford's pass or numbers rating wise 1725 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,599 Speaker 5: drop twenty three points. You take a cup off the field, 1726 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,439 Speaker 5: that happens instantaneously. Now they have to do it with 1727 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,320 Speaker 5: no Cup and no Puka. With all the issues that 1728 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 5: they're facing up front on the offensive line, the defense 1729 01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,240 Speaker 5: is worse. Other than some promising guys up front. 1730 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 1: To believe it, I just you say, by the way 1731 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:15,960 Speaker 1: Ayuk season, I say, Juwan Jennings season, boom sticks. 1732 01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 3: And we know this is also going to be a 1733 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 3: road game for the Rams, even though they're playing it 1734 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 3: so far, there will be fifty thousand Niners fans in 1735 01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:26,880 Speaker 3: that stadium. They take over stadiums, and especially. 1736 01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 1: So far, it's it's it has potential to get dark fast, 1737 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,360 Speaker 1: and it makes you wonder bigger questions about this This 1738 01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:34,080 Speaker 1: Rams team. 1739 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:35,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is real interesting. 1740 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,879 Speaker 1: When they get we will see We'll see. 1741 01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:41,280 Speaker 5: In defensive because I know people here ste'se point, which 1742 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 5: is true. Uh didn't have football here in Los Angeles 1743 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:47,160 Speaker 5: tract for a very long time. San Francisco was good 1744 01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,599 Speaker 5: for a very long time. There are a lot of Rams, 1745 01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 5: There are a lot of Niners fans that don't have 1746 01:17:51,040 --> 01:17:53,240 Speaker 5: to travel, right they live, they live down the street. 1747 01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:58,080 Speaker 4: They just walk up to the game like the home team. 1748 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,880 Speaker 3: Let's take the next closest team while an Explosia team 1749 01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,280 Speaker 3: because its Charger with Shan Diego list follow forty nine 1750 01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:04,200 Speaker 3: ers and that's what they've done. 1751 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a rough spot for some fans for 1752 01:18:06,280 --> 01:18:07,880 Speaker 5: a long time. Speaking of fans who were in a 1753 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,440 Speaker 5: rough spot for a very long time, the Washington Commanders 1754 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:16,479 Speaker 5: and the second Monday night football game coming up. Joe 1755 01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,599 Speaker 5: Bucken Troy Aikman will be on that game. Are seven 1756 01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 5: and a half point dogs at the winless Cincinnati Bengals. 1757 01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:27,240 Speaker 2: Talk about disrespect struggled early. 1758 01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:30,160 Speaker 4: On in the season. Come on, is what did Jayden 1759 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:31,800 Speaker 4: and company have to do? Greg? 1760 01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,639 Speaker 1: Get some And yet I this will not be one 1761 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:38,240 Speaker 1: of my three games that I pick Man versus Model 1762 01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,800 Speaker 1: Me versus Cynthia that that show is going to go 1763 01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,000 Speaker 1: up a Friday afternoon. But if I had to choose 1764 01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 1: this one and this little preview for our show on 1765 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 1: NFL Network Game to View, I would take the Bengals 1766 01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:51,120 Speaker 1: still to win by like ten, because they need this 1767 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,120 Speaker 1: so bad and I do think they're that much better 1768 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 1: that The one route that the Commanders have is that 1769 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:02,000 Speaker 1: their backfield of Brian Robbinson and Ekeeler have been one 1770 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:04,960 Speaker 1: of my most pleasant surprises of the entire season. Cliff 1771 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Kingsbury's always been able to scheme up a run game. 1772 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 1: I think that's his biggest strength in the NFL and 1773 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:13,200 Speaker 1: has gotten his offensive lines to play pretty cohesive at 1774 01:19:13,240 --> 01:19:15,800 Speaker 1: the NFL level. And they're playing well, but I'm giving 1775 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,960 Speaker 1: more credit to the running backs. So they're breaking tackles, 1776 01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,280 Speaker 1: they're making moves. I have never seen Brian Robinson play 1777 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,840 Speaker 1: this well. He's been outstanding. And Ekeler looks like twenty 1778 01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:26,360 Speaker 1: twenty two. 1779 01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:26,679 Speaker 2: Ely. 1780 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,800 Speaker 1: I'm not putting him back into twenty twenty, but I'm 1781 01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:30,320 Speaker 1: putting him back into twenty twenty. 1782 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,320 Speaker 2: Two when he was still a very effective player. 1783 01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 3: They're getting them in space and that's, you know, one 1784 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,040 Speaker 3: of the reasons what they're going to break the first tackle, 1785 01:19:37,120 --> 01:19:39,439 Speaker 3: break or shake them, and that's one thing that they 1786 01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:42,519 Speaker 3: have they've been able to do. And jayde Yana is 1787 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,679 Speaker 3: gonna but he's gonna be running right, you know. Sam 1788 01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,800 Speaker 3: Hubberd and Trey Henderson are going to be putting some 1789 01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 3: pressure I. 1790 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:50,040 Speaker 1: Just tucked myself out of it because the Bengals run 1791 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:52,960 Speaker 1: defense has been terrible and they lost bj Hill and 1792 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,080 Speaker 1: they lost who else sh Sheldon Rankins up front. 1793 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:57,519 Speaker 4: Sheldon Rankings up front. That's a lot. 1794 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean, that's a recipe for a close game out least. 1795 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 4: That's and that's a lot of those linebackers. 1796 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,840 Speaker 3: I mean, Pratt and Wilson are fantastic, hyper athletic, not 1797 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:07,479 Speaker 3: the bigger, biggest guys, but they can run. But with 1798 01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:10,120 Speaker 3: those running backs and Jayden Daniels, you know, we'll see 1799 01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:12,720 Speaker 3: if Cliff can go against his instincts and not throw 1800 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:16,519 Speaker 3: it thirty five times. But yeah, to me, that seven 1801 01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:19,000 Speaker 3: and a half number looks wide. I get it, but 1802 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,920 Speaker 3: they are zero and two. There's some things going on 1803 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,240 Speaker 3: in Cincinnati that aren't quite right. Well, you guys mentioned it. 1804 01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:27,240 Speaker 5: The third most rushing yards between the tackles this season 1805 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 5: and given up. Yeah, and here comes Brian Robinson junior. 1806 01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:34,920 Speaker 5: Jayden's gotten rid of the ball very quickly this season. 1807 01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:38,439 Speaker 5: In terms of time to throw. He's leading the entire 1808 01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,240 Speaker 5: NFL in time to throw. 1809 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:42,920 Speaker 1: Now, that's that's because he only throws the ball yards 1810 01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:43,799 Speaker 1: behind the line of scribbing. 1811 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,080 Speaker 5: We gotta get Terry, gotta get Diami Brown. We got 1812 01:20:46,160 --> 01:20:48,360 Speaker 5: to get them deeper down the field, get him into 1813 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:52,120 Speaker 5: some routes and keep Jayden safe because this Bengals defense 1814 01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,599 Speaker 5: is built to defend the pass yep but if if 1815 01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,760 Speaker 5: Jayden wants to go yolo, as he is wont to do, 1816 01:21:00,760 --> 01:21:03,120 Speaker 5: I think seven and a half is too many points. 1817 01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:05,320 Speaker 5: I think the Commanders can move the ball and shortened 1818 01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,400 Speaker 5: the game because at a certain point, all love to 1819 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,560 Speaker 5: Benjamin Saint ju Just and everybody in that secondary for 1820 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:13,640 Speaker 5: Washington if it doesn't work with Dan Quinn to the 1821 01:21:13,680 --> 01:21:17,160 Speaker 5: extent that it's not working now, I'm having difficulty picturing 1822 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:20,800 Speaker 5: this group in the secondary, like getting significant time in 1823 01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:21,559 Speaker 5: another spot. 1824 01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:23,680 Speaker 4: They are not good right now. 1825 01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, their corners that they're having a hard time figure 1826 01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:28,760 Speaker 3: out what to do with their corners they're not getting. 1827 01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 1: Might be the worst of the league. Te Higgins might 1828 01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,200 Speaker 1: be coming back in that spot, that's the recipe, right, Jamar. 1829 01:21:33,080 --> 01:21:36,040 Speaker 3: Chase might not be getting unsportsman like type penalties for 1830 01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:37,479 Speaker 3: not getting the ball and things like that. 1831 01:21:37,720 --> 01:21:39,640 Speaker 1: And look, I think the Bengals should have won that 1832 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,479 Speaker 1: game in kansasaity that's just because of the penalty call, 1833 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,559 Speaker 1: But just in terms of game flow and the drives, 1834 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,760 Speaker 1: they look like it wasn't by a ton, but they 1835 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,639 Speaker 1: look like the better team to me in that game. 1836 01:21:48,720 --> 01:21:50,599 Speaker 1: And Joe Burrow, who had that rough Week one, looked 1837 01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,880 Speaker 1: a lot better. Yes, looked a lot more like Joe Burrow. 1838 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:56,280 Speaker 1: So now you potentially get Higgins back and you're looking 1839 01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:01,320 Speaker 1: at these cornerbacks that look like barbecue chicken, and I 1840 01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:03,880 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's coming. I mean, I think 1841 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:08,280 Speaker 1: the big offensive day is coming for this Bengals team. 1842 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,000 Speaker 5: And also in defense of Jamar Chays, yeah, he can't 1843 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,360 Speaker 5: see what's happening in that interaction with the tackle. He 1844 01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:19,080 Speaker 5: feels the defender grabbing the towards the shoulder in the 1845 01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:20,679 Speaker 5: back and landing on his knee. 1846 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that he was off on that. 1847 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 4: He was calling for a. 1848 01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:26,040 Speaker 5: Horse tackle because in his body and his experience, he 1849 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,479 Speaker 5: felt like that's what happened. 1850 01:22:28,439 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 4: He's like, son, are you trying to hurt me? 1851 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,960 Speaker 3: I don't have my money yet, and that insurance company 1852 01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 3: that fifteen million might take a couple months exactly, so 1853 01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:36,840 Speaker 3: do not put me on the sideline. 1854 01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,919 Speaker 1: Just a little injury note before we go. The Cowboys 1855 01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:44,000 Speaker 1: listed Ceedee Lamb and Trevon Diggs as not practicing on Wednesday, 1856 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,760 Speaker 1: so we'll monitor that throughout the week, but they both 1857 01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,840 Speaker 1: did finish last week's game, which is usually a good sign. 1858 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:54,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for watching NFL daily. Just a treat for you 1859 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:56,719 Speaker 1: guys to have you here in the studio. 1860 01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 2: We will be here. 1861 01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:04,160 Speaker 1: Every single Thursday morning in your ears, previewing every game. 1862 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,960 Speaker 2: And of course we're gonna be with you Thursday night. 1863 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:10,760 Speaker 1: I got my old friend Dave Damashek, Hey, fella join 1864 01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 1: me for Thursday night recap Jets Patriots. We're gonna be 1865 01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,320 Speaker 1: live on YouTube, so come about ten minutes after the game, 1866 01:23:19,080 --> 01:23:19,800 Speaker 1: we'll recap it. 1867 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:20,240 Speaker 4: See that