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Oh babyhtfield. 11 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 1: Here's Craig Griolu, Mike Jarecki and three time pro bowler 12 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: Kyle Van Deenbosch. Four games, four walkoffs. It will go 13 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: down as the greatest weekend in the NFL, But it 14 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: lacked something, gentlemen. It lacked the er was on the Cardinals. 15 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: So many what ifs. Kyle looking back, although it's only 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: been one week since the loss the Rams, yet it 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: feels so so much longer. And I don't know if 18 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: that's just because the four games that we watched on 19 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday respectively. But one week one week ago, 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 1: last night, Cardinals lose the Rams in the wild card. Yeah, 21 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: it does. We were just talking about that off the 22 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: air about it. It It seems like that was a month ago. 23 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean the games this weekend were incredible. 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 1: I think as as somebody that studied this team during 25 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: the season and somebody that's a huge Arizona Cardinals fan, 26 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: I think the frustrating part was, for the majority of 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: this season, I only did the Cardinals look like a 28 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl team. They were by far the best team 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: in the division. And we're staring at two teams in 30 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: our division in the NFC Championship. I think that's the 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: frustrating part is, you know, you felt like we had 32 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: a you know, at four and o at one point 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: in the division, we had a stronghold on the division, 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: and at the very least, we were the best team 35 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: in you know what a lot of people consider the 36 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: best division in football, and here we're staring at an 37 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: NFC championship game with two of our rivals. As owner 38 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: Michael Bidwall said on Monday at a press conference held 39 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: by the Arizona Super Bowl Host Committee, quote, anytime you 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: see your direct competitors in the playoffs. It should bother 41 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: any football fan, and it certainly bothers this one end quotes. 42 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: We'll get into the NFC Championship Game and AFC Championship 43 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Game and the second half of this edition of the 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals read Sea Report. But MJ. It's it's time though 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: to look forward and what it's going to take to 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: get the Cardinals to be playing in the Divisional round 47 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: first of all, and then here coming up on championship weekends. Well, 48 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to figure it out. And if teams 49 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: are making adjustments in the second half of the season, 50 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: they have to make adjustments. And you know it's gonna 51 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: a lot of it's going to come on the coaches, 52 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: but also really, at the end of the day, it's 53 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: not about the X and OSI's about the Jimmy's and 54 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: the joes, and so it was disappointing. Hopefully Kyler and 55 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: the entire team can eat it and learn from it 56 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: and let it never happen again. Well, the roster construction 57 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: has already begun. There are twenty five free agents for 58 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals, twenty one unrestricted free agents, and as 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: head coach Cliff Kingsbury said the day after that loss 60 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: of the Rams. Yeah, the offseason has begun. That's an 61 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: ongoing process and Steve does a great job of getting 62 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: right into it, and there'll be some tough decisions to 63 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: make and we got to figure some things out. Looking 64 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: at the defense, though, Kyle, that's your side of the ball, 65 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: and you look at the number of unrestricted free agents 66 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: on defense, there are nine of them. But the biggest 67 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: name and the biggest question mark probably of any of 68 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: the free agents is Chandler Jones. What do you do 69 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: He's thirty two years old. Yet, if you don't resign 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, what's your plan to get a pass rush 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: because you need a pass rush to effect opposing quarterbacks. Yeah, 72 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: I think that's the big question, right. I think, you know, 73 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: maybe the prudent decision would be based upon what he's 74 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: going to command contract wise and year why years wise, 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: might be to let him hit free agency and explore 76 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: that and potentially let him leave. However, I'm curious to 77 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: see how the Cardinals approach not only this off season 78 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: but going into next season with the Super Bowl being 79 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: here next year. You know, really, the pretty amazing thing 80 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: about the way Steve Kim has done things is he's 81 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: assembled a very talented roster without completely mortgaging our future, 82 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: whereas the Seahawks have, the Niners have, and the Rams 83 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: have and the Rams, you know, it's it's pretty apparent 84 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: they're in an all in when to get to the 85 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: super Bowl this year because they're hosting it. So you know, 86 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: we may not get this opportunity again to get us 87 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: not anytime soon to get another Super Bowl back here 88 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: in the desert, So to be interesting to see what 89 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: our philosophy is. Are we going to mortgage our future 90 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: trying to get to a super Bowl at our home stadium. 91 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: So again, you know, there's no question Chandler Jones is 92 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: one of the most talented pass rushers in the NFL. 93 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: He's a problem, he's a playmaker. He can he's a 94 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: game changer when he's on. But there was long spurts 95 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: this season where he went sacklists and he was you know, 96 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: other than really the first game, he wasn't super productive 97 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: for the rest of the season, So I think they 98 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: need to take a good hard look at it. Yeah, 99 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: you always got to look at what's behind door number two. 100 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to free agents, and you 101 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: know a guy that left here and I put up 102 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: some good numbers of Son Reddick. So he's a free agent. 103 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: We'll see if they put the tag on him. I 104 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: think it's very similar to Patrick Peterson. Hey go out 105 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: there and find what you're worth. But I don't think 106 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: they have any intention of possibly bringing him back, just 107 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: based on the inconsistency over the year. This is just 108 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: me thinking out loud. It takes two to tango, but 109 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: I do think if he would have had he was 110 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: more consistent this year, I think they were willing to 111 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 1: give him an extension, a two year deal. You know, 112 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: maybe you know eighteen to twenty per year, but I 113 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: don't think there's been no negotiations on that. So I 114 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: would anticipate he will touch free agency. Five sacks weeks one, 115 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: five and a half sacks the rest of the season. 116 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: But to your point, MJ, if they're going to let 117 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: him walk, what's the plan and whether we know that 118 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: now or later. That's the scary part for Cardinal fans 119 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: because what you have currently on the roster Marcus Golden 120 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 1: and then that's it. As far as getting after quarterbacks, well, 121 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: the good news they don't play until September. So this 122 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: is part of the off season. You can build your 123 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: roster three different ways. You can resign your own free agents, 124 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: you can acquire a free agent, you can make a trade, 125 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: and then you throw in the draft. So this is 126 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: the pre planning for the off season and they're gonna 127 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: have a plan. And a lot of people think the 128 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals went in this year. If they would have went in, 129 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: they would have traded for Stefan Gilmore. They made a 130 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: trade for Zach Hurst because Max Williams went down as 131 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: a general manager. You have to look ahead the next 132 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: two or three years, and it's going to be interesting 133 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: what happens with Kyler Murray because I think right now 134 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: they want to see more progress and the way they 135 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: finished the season to even consider giving him a contract extension. 136 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 1: You got, what maybe one more snap left in year, 137 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: one more week, that's it. That's it. Hey, So just 138 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: I think an important signing will be Dennis Gardeck. I 139 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: think you saw what he could do as a pass 140 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: rush role last season and having you know, suffered to 141 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: ACL injuries myself, I was not able to do the 142 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: things I wanted to do that next season, and I 143 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: think he will continue to get healthier and hopefully he 144 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: can at least pick up some of that slack. I mean, 145 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: you want to at least have the known versus the unknown. 146 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: And then as far as filling you know the pass 147 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: rush spot. Um, I think you tried to address it 148 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: in the draft. Um, you know you you need to 149 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: find somebody that can get to the quarterback. But typically 150 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: you have to overpay, and I don't know that this 151 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: team is in a position to overpay for an outside 152 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: pass rusher this offseason. Cardeck on the field for sixteen 153 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: percent of the team's defensive snaps this past season, but 154 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: it was in twenty twenty where we saw that real production. Now, 155 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: he didn't surprise anyone this season, so maybe it's time 156 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: for him to adjust coming up in twenty twenty two. 157 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: But Dennis Cardeck is among the nine free agents that 158 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: the Cardinals have on defense. We'll touch on some others here, 159 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: but head coach Cliff Kingsbury on where this team needs 160 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: to get work done, because, as we talked about, there 161 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: are two teams playing in the NFC Championship Game from 162 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: the NFC West. We've got a lot of work to 163 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: do and we want to be better and finish stronger 164 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: and all those things. But we definitely improved dramatically in 165 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: the first three years, and we're hoping to do the 166 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: same next year, and we're gonna have to. NFC West 167 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: is a challenge year, and you're out with great players 168 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: and great teams, and we got to make some real 169 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: progress that we want to keep up. Aside from pass 170 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: rush MJ, you look at the defense and defensive line 171 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: and cornerback Corey Peters is a free agent. Robert Alford 172 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: is due to become an unrestricted free agent. Two veterans, 173 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: but veterans that contributed, and the case of Alford I 174 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: thought was a huge contributor before getting hurt. He was 175 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: the most physical corner. He would have been a great 176 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: matchup on Odell Beckham Junior. I would bring him back 177 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: on a minimum deal. I mean, just our depth. Obviously, 178 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: you know, you got to hope to see more progress 179 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,000 Speaker 1: from Marco Wilson, Byron Murphy played well in the first 180 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: half of the season, didn't play as well down the stretch, 181 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: and then we'll just see with the draft, and obviously 182 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,839 Speaker 1: you're looking at some free agents. They did bring in 183 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: Brashard Brilliland, even though they didn't tender him for the 184 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: futurest contract, so that's a position to that graft take 185 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: a look at. But I would bring Offord back on 186 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: a minimum deal. And you can never have enough corners 187 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: in this league, especially the amount of times we've seen 188 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: teams across the league past the ball, including this past weekend. Yeah, 189 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: corner depth, it always comes up big, especially late in 190 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: a season, and it was a problem for the Cardinals 191 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 1: this season. So that will definitely be a key. And honestly, 192 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, the biggest improvement I can see on the 193 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: defense this team will be the continued development of your 194 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: two first round draft picks at linebacker. I mean, both 195 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: of these guys, you know, they have the potential to 196 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: be difference makers and playmakers. And this year, at times 197 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: we saw Isaiah Simmons look like, you know, that's the 198 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: kind of player. He was where he was making you know, 199 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: twelve tackles and he was all over the field and 200 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 1: making big time plays, and other times you would disappear 201 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: for stretches and you really hope that next year is 202 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: Zaven Collins can be the player that they envisioned when 203 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: they drafted him as well. Year three four, Isaiah Simmons 204 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: be year two four Zaven Collins, And I thought Jordan 205 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: Hicks had something interesting to say the day after the 206 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: season about did he believe He was asked did he 207 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: believe that those two young kids already? And he had 208 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: full confidence in them, and then added, and I'm paraphrais 209 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: in here, Kyle that sometimes you just because they're drafted 210 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: so high, sometimes you just gotta throw them in the water, 211 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: sink or swim. And that's why you drafted him. You 212 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: might as well play them and then see if they're ready. No, 213 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: that's exactly right. I mean the only way. I mean, 214 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: you can do everything perfect at practice, but the only 215 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: way to really develop, especially as a linebackers is you've 216 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: got to see so many things happening on the field 217 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: at the same time, and you gotta be able to 218 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: recognize and you start to get that muscle memory. But 219 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: you've got to get that experience out on the field. Yeah, 220 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: and you look at Jordan Hicks, he's got a high 221 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: cap number. Curious to see you know, he already was 222 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: you know, on the block last year and maybe you know, 223 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: thinking about going somewhere else. But to me, at this point, 224 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: it's on the players to put the work in. But 225 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: it's also on the coaches to get these guys ready, 226 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: and that has to happen next year with Collins and Simmons. 227 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: And I think Simmons showed flashes but inconsistent at times. 228 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: And again, when you're playing four different positions, you know 229 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: that's why they drafted him. Maybe he settles on two 230 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,840 Speaker 1: different positions. I don't think he'll rush the pastor though. 231 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: I think more of a slot corner and an inside linebacker, 232 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: and then you can have him covering the tight end. 233 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: So but the players have to put the work in 234 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: and the coaches have to coach him up. The athleticism 235 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: between those two is off the charts. Now it's okay, 236 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: between the years, can you understand what you're being asked to? 237 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: Can you understand to read offenses and be in the 238 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: right spots? Isaiah him and though Kyle does play, has 239 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: played a number of different positions, we at the point 240 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 1: where it's okay, we like the versatility. Yet at the 241 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: same time, how about you just figure out this one 242 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: particular skill and then we branch out. Yeah. I tend 243 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:17,839 Speaker 1: to agree with that. It seemed like, again there was 244 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: games where he settled in was really comforable in those 245 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: other games where he really seemed like he was looking around, 246 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 1: not really sure where he was supposed to be or 247 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: or who he was supposed to cover in. You know, 248 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: a guy like that, you don't ever want them thinking 249 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: too much. With his athletic ability, his ability to close 250 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: and come up and really surprisingly make big hits, you 251 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: don't ever want him hesitating, playing on his heels, you know, 252 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: concerned when a lot of things are flashing in front 253 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: of him. You just want him to go. You want 254 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: to give him direction and go, and I think that 255 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 1: that will give him a lot more success. The one 256 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: bright spot on this defense moving forward, MJ is you 257 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about Buddha Baker, Jalen Thompson. Maybe 258 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:59,719 Speaker 1: some depth safety position, but you are pretty strong, very 259 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: wrong at that spot. Yeah, and Jayalen Thompson and the 260 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: strides that he's made, you know, in his first couple 261 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: of years, maybe third year in the league, it's impressive, 262 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: and that they got a nice tandem there. He's just 263 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: gotta stay healthy. But for the most part, you know, 264 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: you can build around those guys when it comes to 265 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: a secondary Subscribe to Arizona Cardinals podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 266 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: Google Podcasts, and Stitcher. 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First down 274 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: on the forty seven dropping back the throat blobs at 275 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: the far side Barns with the catch to the thirty 276 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: lois and the twenty fars fifteen ten five fuck down. 277 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:08,319 Speaker 1: Zach ERTs forty seven yards becomes the first player ever 278 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: to have touchdown catches in consecutive games for two different teams. 279 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: The newest member of the Cardinals. Man just put this 280 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: one out a ree. Twenty three to five. Boy, that 281 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: is a big time explosive play by the newest member 282 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals. That was back on October twenty fourth, 283 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: a thirty one to five win against the Houston Texans. 284 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: Zach Ertz debut at State Farm Stadium, the first of 285 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: what would be eleven games played for zack Ertz, and 286 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: he certainly made quite the impact. Fifty six catches, five 287 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four yards, three touchdowns, Gentleman, he was 288 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: targeted thirty one times, third and most behind Christian Kirk 289 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: and AJ Green, and doing so in five fewer games. 290 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 1: As we continue here on the Cardinals Red Sea Report, 291 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: we do every Tuesday, year round, eleven to noon here 292 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, Greigriolu, kal Vanibosch and 293 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: Mike Dreki looking at the offense and one of those 294 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: big name free agents for this Cardinals team on the 295 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball is zach Ertz. He made 296 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: no secret about it, Kyle, that he would like to 297 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: be back. He's got ties here to Arizona. Enjoyed his 298 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: three month stay with the Arizona Cardinals and the state 299 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: of Arizona. The question is always when you come to this, 300 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: how many years, more importantly, how many dollars? What are 301 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: you asking for? What are you willing to give me? 302 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: So a lot of give and take back and forth, 303 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: but it's no question that zach Ertz fits within this 304 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: Kingsbury offense. Yeah, Absolutely, he really became you know, Kyler's 305 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: safety valve for a good part of the late part 306 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: of the season, and that's big, especially for a young quarterback, 307 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: but especially for an offense. You know that you know, 308 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: typically is designed to work the ball down the field, 309 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: somebody that can find the void in those underneath zones, 310 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: and he was. He was so reliable, and I think 311 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: it's he does become a priority now saying that, Um, 312 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, I, like most Cardinals fans, am a huge 313 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: Max Williams fan as well. Loved his approach to the game, 314 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: loved the way he played, loved the way he developed 315 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: into a reliable receiving tight end as well. It's hard 316 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: to bring both back, you know, so I think you 317 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: have to weigh, Um, it's just tough to pay to 318 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: tight ends of free agency, but so I think you 319 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: have to weigh, you know, which which player plays better 320 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: in your offense or adds more value. I think the 321 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: goal is to resign zach Ertz, depending on obviously the money, 322 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: two or three year deal, and then they want to 323 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,119 Speaker 1: retain Max Williams, probably on a minimum deal with incentives 324 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 1: based on active on game day. And then we've talked 325 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 1: about this before the draft is deep at the tight 326 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: end position fifteen to twenty dep That doesn't mean they're 327 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: gonna take him in the first round, but I'm saying, 328 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: you have two veteran guys. We know Max is more 329 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: than meat and potatoes on in the eleven personnel. Obviously 330 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:04,199 Speaker 1: there's a connection with Kyler and zach Ertz, and then 331 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 1: you develop a young guy. So I think that's the 332 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: direction they would like to go. We'll see what happens 333 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: once free agency begins, but keep in mind, Cardinals can 334 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: sign their own free agents at any points right now, 335 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: We'll see if that happens with some of these. Perhaps 336 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: was zach Ertz let's hear from the Cardinals tied in 337 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: on the potential of continuing his career in a Cardinals uniform. 338 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: I've loved my time here in Arizona. I would love 339 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: the opportunity to continue here. There's a lot of things 340 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: out of my control. Got a lot of good players 341 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: at our free agents as well, so it may not 342 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 1: be even up to me, but it's been a blessed 343 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: thing to be able to be here. I've truly loved it. 344 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: My wife has obviously loved it. Obviously it didn't end 345 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: where we wanted it too, But I still feel like 346 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,479 Speaker 1: we have unfinished business as a team. I would love 347 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: to be a part of it. Let me ask you this, 348 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,919 Speaker 1: if you're a guy like Chase Edmonds Christian Kirk, you know, 349 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk put up good numbers. You see your number 350 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: two or number three receiver who played his natural position, 351 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: Chase Hemmons obviously hasn't been able to stay healthy. They 352 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: would like to retain James Conner at this point being 353 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: a free agent for the first time, trying to get 354 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: that second contract. Yes, they all want to be here, 355 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: That's what I'm hearing. But money talks. So at this 356 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 1: point in time, do you think those guys just test 357 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: free agency to kind of see what they're worth. Yeah, 358 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: I you know, I think you're exactly right. Um, all 359 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: these guys are saying the right thing, and I truly 360 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: believe they, you know, love being on this team. They've 361 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed their experiences in this organization. But you only get 362 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,959 Speaker 1: so many chances at getting a pay day, right and 363 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: when you when you get you know, thirty one other 364 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: teams and potentially if your team is telling them mix, 365 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 1: you get thirty two teams bidding for your services. Sometimes 366 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: you know, you need to take advantage of that, you know, 367 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: and so you know, while players do, especially later in 368 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: their career, it seems like players later in their career 369 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: are I've got my money, I just want to win. 370 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,400 Speaker 1: I think this is my best opportunity. Though those guys 371 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,360 Speaker 1: might stay, But younger players who for the first time 372 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: are hitting the market, um, you know. Typically, um, somebody's 373 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna you know, really like what they see on film 374 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,440 Speaker 1: and they should. Um, all these are good players. Um, 375 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna pay you know, Chase Edmond, someone's gonna pay 376 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk and for your agency. It's nice to be wanted. 377 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: And for those younger players sometimes you need that maybe 378 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: that pad on the back that as a veteran maybe 379 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: you don't need because to your point, Kyle, you've already 380 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: earned that money. Now it's about Okay, I want to 381 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: be able to have a sustained playoff run. You start 382 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: talking thinking about your legacy in that respect. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, 383 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: it's a you know, it's it's the reason every well 384 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: not everybody, but it's the reason most people play the game. 385 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,400 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you want security, you want that paycheck, 386 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: you want to be you know, your kids to be 387 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: taken care of, UM, but you want to win. You 388 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 1: want to have that experience, UM that so few players 389 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: get UM of getting to a super Bowl and potentially 390 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: winning a super Bowl because ultimately that last uh, that 391 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: lasts with you the rest of your life. I mean, 392 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you've already had your pay day and 393 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: you're okay, I think you know you're seeing it actually 394 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: a lot more now than you're used to. Guys taken 395 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: a little bit less to go to the organization that 396 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 1: they both feel comfortable in and they know has it 397 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 1: gives them an opportunity to win that Super Bowl. All right, 398 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: put your GM head on. If you hadn't only signed 399 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 1: one Connor or Edmonds. Connor's a little bit older, UM, 400 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: clearly he fits this offense. You need to compliment some 401 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: They got Jalen Samuel's they signed He's he's got some experience. 402 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,159 Speaker 1: You got, you know, Benjamin, you got Jonathan Ward. I 403 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: don't know if they can sign both. But if you 404 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: put your GM had who would you prefer to see 405 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,919 Speaker 1: in this offense based on what you saw the last year? Uh? 406 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: You know, one of the biggest improvements uh from this 407 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 1: season as opposed to last season, particularly through the you know, 408 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: first two thirds of the season was our success on 409 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: short yard situations and our success in the red zone. 410 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of that is contributed to 411 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: James Connor, how he runs the ball, his his attitude. 412 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: And you know, if you asked me the beginning this 413 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 1: and he would have probably been a toss up. But 414 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: seeing how well James Connor, how well he played in 415 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: the passing game, how big of a threat he was 416 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: on screens to get big gains, he can do most 417 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: of the things that Chase Edmunds can do as well. 418 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: While I'm not sure that Chase Edmunds can do all 419 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: of the things that James Connor can do. Connor thirty 420 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: seven catches, Edmunds forty three catches. Now their yardage total 421 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: is different. But to your point, that Billy to catch 422 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: the ball out of the backfield, I think opened a 423 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: lot of people's eyes. And it went back to training camp. 424 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: But if you weren't following or you want watching training camp, 425 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you see one week 426 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: a one handed grab and in another week a one 427 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: handed grab, and all of a sudden, it's like whoa 428 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to leave the field, and that's what 429 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: you want with your running back is to be able 430 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: to do both run and catch the ball. And how 431 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: many checkdowns to James Connor went for twenty yards or 432 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,719 Speaker 1: were big gainers because he's not just a guy that 433 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: has good hands and he's gonna get tackled. I mean 434 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: he is once he catches the ball in the open field. 435 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: It's just he runs the same way with the ball 436 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: in the open field and runs through contact the way 437 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: he does on a short yards and goal line plays. 438 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: I mean, he really was not just you know, not 439 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: just another option. He was a weapon on offense. And 440 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: he take a look at when Colt McCoy won two 441 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: out of three games on the road against San Francisco 442 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks. He was able to de bait the 443 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: linemen and then the screen game was working. And again 444 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: that's something Kyler was gonna have to learn. Take what's there. 445 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: Obviously you'd like to get some chunk plays, but I 446 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: thought when Colt was in there, they ran. He ran 447 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: the offense the way they wanted. From that standpoint, obviously, 448 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the same skill set as Kyler, Murray, 449 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: Will Connor and Edmonds. Both or one or the other 450 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: or maybe neither both are unrestricted free agents come mid March. 451 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: Here's head coach Cliff Kingsbury. Huge fans of both those guys. 452 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't ask for two guys that work harder, 453 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: do things the right way. You know, they're they're dialed 454 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: in each and every day, and they both earned good deals. 455 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: As far as I'm concerned, I hope that we can 456 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: afford both guys because they both had fantastic seasons and 457 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: they deserve to get nice contracts. But I would love 458 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: to have them both back. I think they compliment each 459 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: other really well. It's funny listening to Kingsbury when you're 460 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,880 Speaker 1: the head coach, MJ. It's just, you know, I want 461 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: this guy, I want that guy, and it becomes a 462 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: shopping spring and then all of a sudden, down the 463 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: hall and Kingsbury's reference this as well. Down the hall 464 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: you have the general manager and your cap guy going well, no, 465 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: we can't do that. That's okay, we know that can happen. 466 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: So you have all these pieces, yet you have to 467 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: kind of limit or you know, narrow focus. All right, 468 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: what can we do? Well? The thing is they got 469 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: Connor and Colt McCoy on sweet deals. I mean, I 470 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: want to say total, it probably made three and a 471 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 1: half four million. I don't know about the incentives, but yeah, 472 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,360 Speaker 1: which teams have Craig is a positional spending at each position. 473 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: So you know, when obviously Hops numbers going to twenty 474 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 1: five million, can they afford you know, number two? But 475 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: when you look at the running back position, they don't 476 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: have a lot of money invest in there unless they 477 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: sign them one of these two guys to a long 478 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: term contract. So it's like this, they have this pie 479 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 1: and you got to slice it up, and you gotta 480 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: hope you come up with the best fifty three players 481 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: going into the season. Of course, it doesn't matter what 482 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: Connor or Edmunds do running or receiving. If there's not 483 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: holes for them to run through, or if there is 484 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: not protection for the quarterback to throw them the football, 485 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: that becomes to the offensive line. I think you're pretty 486 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: solid there, Kyle, But we do know that they're right 487 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 1: now with Backscarcia scheduled to become an unrestricted pree agent, 488 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: there's a hole right now at right guard. Yeah, and 489 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: you know when when Aaron Donald's in your division. That's 490 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: that's an important spot to fill. It can't just be 491 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: a guy. I think you need to be really strong, um, 492 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: at both center and both guard positions. I think it's important, 493 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: you know. I think that was the offensive line to 494 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: me was kind of um you know, the story one 495 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 1: of the stories of if when this season started to 496 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: go south, because this line was one of the most dependable, reliable, 497 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: and productive units through the first part of the season. 498 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: For whatever reason. Um, you know, there was games where 499 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: they gave up too many pressures, pressure too quickly, and 500 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: we're unable to open some of the holes that they're 501 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 1: able to open up early in the season. So it's 502 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure it's something, um, you know, not just the 503 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: guard position. UM, I think you need to continue to 504 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: always look to upgrade the depth. And saying that with 505 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 1: the running back position as well, whichever one you choose, 506 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: you're going to need that second guy. We saw it 507 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: late in the season with the running backs going in 508 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: and out of the lineup. You need depth, you need 509 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: somebody reliable, and so um, you know, it didn't it 510 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: on paper, it doesn't seem like much adding that extra game, 511 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 1: but it is so hard to manage even a sixteen 512 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: game season and keep everybody healthy and not go through 513 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: position groups that are just devastated by injury. So um 514 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: depth is always going to be huge, and I think 515 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,920 Speaker 1: it'll be important too, especially the offensive line, to continue 516 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: to have that depth. No listen, I give Max Garcia 517 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: a ton of credit that he was playing out a position. 518 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know he was learning on the fly, 519 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: and you know he he's to me, he's a backup. Though. 520 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: They got to get something out of Murray or Josh Jones. 521 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: And again it's on the players. Justus Murray had kind 522 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: of forgotten this year. He could play four different positions. 523 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: Beach him is under contract next year, Humps under contract, 524 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: Hudson's under contract, so we'll see what join Murray. But again, 525 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 1: when you're picking twenty three, you can take a guy 526 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: in the trenches. You're you're picking in the second round, 527 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, late second round, and you can take a 528 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: guy in the trenches, because that's where they got to 529 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,959 Speaker 1: get better in this division, in the trenches. The loss 530 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 1: of Justin Murray, he was I think counted on and 531 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: then suffered a back injury, designated to return, tried to practice, 532 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 1: had a setback, ended up having back surgery. According to Kingsbury, 533 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: expected to be cleared at the end of February and 534 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: then it should be good to go. So if you 535 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: can have him back, that would solve a lot of questions. 536 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: And remember with Guardsia mj he was he was your 537 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 1: backup center and was only moved to the guard spot 538 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: left or right because of injuries and in COVID issues 539 00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: during training camp. Yeah, like I said, I mean, he's 540 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: a good depth guy, but I stilln't think if you're 541 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: lining up the top five, I don't think you know 542 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 1: based on and again he's going against these really good 543 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: fronts in the NFC West. But you got to get 544 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: better in the interior. Catch up on past episodes of 545 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,880 Speaker 1: The Day Pash podcast via your preferred podcast provider. Get 546 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,959 Speaker 1: the latest updates via Twitter at hash pod. We've had 547 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: halftime here on the Cardinals Red Sea reports. When we 548 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: come back, how about we look ahead even further coming 549 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 1: up this weekend championship Sunday the AFC and NFC, and 550 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: already hinted at our thoughts on the NFC title game, 551 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: but we'll break down Bengals Chiefs forty nine Ers Rams. 552 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: That's all straight ahead here on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network, 553 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: Evan McPherson for the Bengals win from fifty two. Vic 554 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: Pierson eyes the uprights, looks down, tell Us Helm he's 555 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: running the snap ball down. McPherson's kick is on the 556 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: way and it is good and the Bengals win. The 557 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals are going to be AFC Title Game. Kevin 558 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: McPherson with the walk off winner from fifty two at 559 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals dream season continues. First and goal at the eight. 560 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: Mall Holmes gets the shotgun snapped, pumps throws from the 561 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: zone to Kelsey, but justusting takes the catch. Tous Travis 562 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: Kelsey with a touchdown in the back right corner of 563 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: the zong. Kansas City wins it forty two thirty six 564 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: and over time and the Cheeks full hosta forty straight 565 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game, first in NFL history, by the way, 566 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: Bengals first title game appearance since nineteen eighty eight. The 567 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: AFC down to two teamsles at the Chiefs one oh 568 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: five Sunday afternoon on CBS, Ryan Radkey Kevin Coogler on 569 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: Westwood One with the final calls. Bengals upset the Titans. 570 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: Chiefs rally passed the Bills and overtime before we get 571 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: into this matchup, which is a rematch of a contest 572 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 1: in week seventeen. I gotta get your thoughts, Kyle on 573 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: watching that Chiefs Bills game, in which the quarterbacks combined 574 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: for over seven hundred passing yards and seven touchdowns. As 575 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: a defensive guy, do you enjoy that? Were you on 576 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: the edge of your seats or are you throwing things 577 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: at the tv? Going someone get a stop? As a 578 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 1: also avid fantasy football play, I enjoyed those type of games. 579 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: I enjoyed those. No, that was I mean, Mike and 580 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: I were talking about it earlier. I feel like that's 581 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: the best two teams right now in the NFL. And 582 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: you feel like if those two teams played, you know, 583 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: ten times, it might be five and five between the 584 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: two of them. And you know, those two quarterbacks just 585 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: for comino games, and you know the future is bright 586 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: because they're both both young quarterbacks. But Man's that was 587 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: a great way to cap off an incredible football weekend. 588 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: Twenty five points, three lead changes over the final two 589 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: minutes of regulations. Chiefs move on. They'll host the Bengals 590 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday afternoon. The Bengals again, they've adopted that mantra, 591 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: MJ about you know why not us? I mean, they 592 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: weren't favored last week, go in upset the Titans. They're 593 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: certainly not going to be favored coming up this weekend. Yet, 594 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: don't count out Joe Burrow even though he's still very, 595 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: very young in this game. If I'm not mistaken. Cincinnati 596 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: beat Kansas City this year, so they got that to 597 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: you know, go back to but you look at Joe 598 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: Burrow sixteen hundred and fifty four passing yards to Jamar Chase. 599 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: The duo was younger than twenty five years old entering 600 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 1: the conference championship game. The other guys who did it 601 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: was Dante Colepepper and Randy Moss, and then Patrick Mahomes 602 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill. But right now under twenty five years old. 603 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,719 Speaker 1: They and then you got Joe Mixon. You gotta give 604 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor a lot of credit. He looked like a 605 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: deer in the headlights his first year. Duke Tobin his 606 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 1: father's Bill Tobin, the uncle of Vince Tobin. He's done 607 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 1: a really good job at that roster. They went out 608 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: and signed some good free agents Trey Henderson. Henderson and 609 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: a couple other guys they brought in. But clearly he's 610 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: took in a lot of hits. When you when you 611 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: get sacked nine times, but Tannehill, he starts the game 612 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: with a pick and then he throws two picks in 613 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: the second half. That was really the difference in the game. 614 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: Nine sacks and you win the ball game. It's do 615 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: you talk about taking a hit and getting back up. Yeah. 616 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: You can't say enough about his toughness, especially the way 617 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: he was injured last year. I mean, you would think 618 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: he would be, you know, trying to get rid of 619 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 1: the ball as quick as he could, but he stands 620 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: in there, gets the ball down the field and you know, 621 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm I don't know what the stats are, but I 622 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: I can't imagine a team getting sacked nine times, one 623 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: quarterback getting sacked nine times and winning the game. It 624 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: just never works out that way. But yeah, he's showed 625 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: tremendous toughness and he's got you know, his future is 626 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 1: definitely bright because he knows where he's going with the 627 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: ball and he can deliver it, put it anywhere on 628 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: the football field. It's got a good command for the offense. 629 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: You know, you expect him to have a tremendous career 630 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: just based upon what he's done thus far. But he 631 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: needs offensive line help because he's now gonna last at 632 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: this rate. Well, there was that decision not too long ago. 633 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: What do you do if you're the Cincinnati Bengals. Do 634 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: you draft an offensive tackle or do you go wide receiver? 635 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: They went wide receiver Jamar Chase, pairing him up with 636 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: his LSU teammate Joe Burrow. And all Chase is done 637 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,680 Speaker 1: is rewrite the record books when it comes to wide receivers, 638 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 1: rookie wide receivers in terms of yards, catches, and touchdowns. Yea, 639 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 1: and they got three good wide receiver. You look at 640 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: Higgins and you know, Boyd, I mean they and they 641 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: got a good running back and Joe Mixon. I mean again, 642 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: you gotta give him a lot of credit just you 643 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: know he you know, Burrow's twenty five years old, where 644 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: you got some younger guys like Kyler Murray's younger than him, 645 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: and I think game maybe Josh Allen's can be twenty five. 646 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean he's he's a mature guy. And 647 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: the funny thing is he goes to Ohio State, and 648 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: then if Greg Schiano got the Tennessee job, he was 649 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: going to go there. He didn't get the job, so 650 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: he goes to Lshoe and he wins a national championship. 651 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: And then, yeah, I'll tell you what, guys, the AFC. 652 00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: You know we had Brady in Manning and Roethlispringer for 653 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: all these years. This AFC is fascinating. Mahomes, Josh Allen, 654 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. We'll see what happens when Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert. 655 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: I mean, they are loaded with guys under twenty seven 656 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: years old. In the AFC, it was Burrow getting the 657 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: best of Mahomes. In Week seventeen, thirty four thirty one, 658 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: Evan mcpherrison kicked a twenty yard field goal as time expired. 659 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: That wasn't that long ago, Kyle. It was not Week 660 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 1: three or Week seven, Week seventeen. How much does that 661 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: factor into game planning for an AFC Championship game? I 662 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: would say quite a bit. Actually, I mean it's it 663 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: doesn't it Not much has changed. I mean it's not 664 00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 1: like you know, sometimes a game this season you have 665 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 1: almost a pletely different personnel. The second time around, it 666 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: was so recent so. But one of the things I love, 667 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: especially with a team like Kansas City in their offense, 668 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: is they're just so unpredictable. They come up with so 669 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: many creative ways to beat you, and what they do 670 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: on offense one week, they will give you a completely 671 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: different look the next week. And it's it's you know, 672 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: they really confuse and keep defenses on their heels with 673 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,439 Speaker 1: all of their pre snap shifts and motions and things 674 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,959 Speaker 1: they do after the snaps. So you know, I would 675 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: think probably the bigger advantages to Kansas City with a 676 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 1: you know a little bit more of a conventional offense 677 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: like they have in Cincinnati. Man, Tyreek Hill when he 678 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: puts his foot in the ground, Wow, I mean now, 679 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: Tyrone math he wasn't out there and he's in cutching protocol. 680 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: Looks good that he will return, But man, he put 681 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: his foot and then the cutch by Kelsey and the 682 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: end zone I mean two feet in I mean Mahomes 683 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: just yeah, he does a lot of things. You just 684 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: shake your head and you're like no, and then yes, 685 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: But I'm just it's I think they're gonna have a 686 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: hard time stopping them, unless they get into a shootout. 687 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: Because the Bills fans think if they won the coin toss, 688 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: they win the game. They couldn't stop Josh Allen. Yeah, 689 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 1: all came down to a coin toss in the divisional round. 690 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 1: We talked a lot about playoff experience for the Cardinals 691 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 1: going into their first playoff matchup in Wildcard weekend. And 692 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: now you look at playoff experience here and the Chiefs, 693 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: as we heard on the final call, four straight years 694 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: hosting this game, not just playing, but hosting this game. 695 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: And the Bengals, who the little team upstart that now 696 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: is kind of re emerging from the darkness coming in. 697 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: And I don't know how if they're phased at all 698 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: by any of this, from the head coach on down 699 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 1: to the players. Right, I don't know who has the 700 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: advantage there, because you're right, experience, particularly playoff experience, it 701 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: is a big deal. You know, you've been through the routine. 702 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 1: You don't get too emotional, but now saying that a 703 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: team like the Bengals that nobody expected to be here 704 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: and is playing like they deserve to be there. Sometimes 705 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: what you don't what you don't know is good, right, 706 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: You don't know that you should be overwhelmed. You don't 707 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 1: know that, Hey, we don't stand a chance against an 708 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: offensive juggernaut like the Chiefs. You just go in and 709 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,759 Speaker 1: you're like, well, you know, nobody expected us to be 710 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: here anyway, so let's go out there and give it 711 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,479 Speaker 1: our best shot. So it's it's a really intriguing matchup. Well, 712 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: looking at the division, I mean, Pittsburgh is trying to 713 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: find their next quarterback. You know, we'll see if Rogers, 714 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: I know he likes Mike Tomlin, and then you look 715 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: at Baker Mayfield, what's going on there? And then Lamar 716 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: Jackson just hasn't been able to stay healthy. So I 717 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: gotta think the team to beat in the future is Cincinnati. 718 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 1: And we'll see because now all of a sudden, they're 719 00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: not going to surprise anybody there. They're gonna be the 720 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,760 Speaker 1: the hunted versus the hunter and it changes. But they 721 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: got a good roster and if they can continue to build, 722 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 1: they'll be the team to beat in that division. We 723 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: keep talking about like the Chiefs are this old team. 724 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: Mahomes is not that old. He's still maybe he's twenty six. 725 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,399 Speaker 1: He can play based off what other quarterbacks said donal league, 726 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: he can play for another twenty years if he wants 727 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: to now he probably won't. He's got enough money already 728 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: in the bank not to play. But you know he's 729 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: not going anywhere in that conference, no, right, and again, 730 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,240 Speaker 1: watching him, the things he can do with the football 731 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: is still pretty incredible. The way he changes his arm, 732 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 1: angles can throw back all the way across the field, 733 00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: and the way he can I mean, he can still 734 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: stick his foot in the ground and gain yardage in 735 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: a hurry too. So you know, he's still just a 736 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: tremendous player to watch Bengals at the Chiefs AFC Championship 737 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: Game coming up on Sunday afternoon kickoff one oh five 738 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,320 Speaker 1: on CBS. Check out season one of our Cardinals Folktales 739 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: on our official YouTube channel. Visit YouTube dot com slash 740 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: Asy Cardinals to get the story behind the stories from 741 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,840 Speaker 1: several remarkable moments in Cardinals history at Cardinals Fooktales. Available 742 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:51,719 Speaker 1: at YouTube dot com slash Asy Cardinals. Original audio podcasts 743 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:56,360 Speaker 1: also available by searching Cardinals Fooktales wherever you get your podcasts. 744 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,239 Speaker 1: When we come back the NFC Championship game, yes, we'll 745 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 1: talk about forty nine Ers Rams Part three here on 746 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: the Arizona cartin Oals Radio Network. Four seconds to play, 747 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 1: tied a ten, and here comes Robbie gold Is, seventeen 748 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: year veteran. This is in the snow, This is in 749 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,560 Speaker 1: the wind, This is in Lambeau. Forty five yard field 750 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: goal on the snowy grass. We're snow stee will hold 751 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 1: copper of the snap, high, stamp, put down, kick is 752 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: and the kick is god. He got a clock at zero. 753 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:39,479 Speaker 1: San Francisco is one. San Francisco is stunt Green Bay. 754 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 1: Nobody has a time out. Four seconds to go. In regulation, 755 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: Mat gay On to win it for the Rams. Snap 756 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: ball down, the kick is up, and the kick he's god. 757 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: The Rams are going to the NFC Championship Game. And 758 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,799 Speaker 1: have we seen the last on the most decorated four 759 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 1: back in NFL history, Tom Brady? Is he done? The 760 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: Rams looked like they were done the way the Buccaneers 761 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 1: came back, but they still went it in regulation thirty 762 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: to twenty seven. They'll host the forty nine Ers at 763 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,120 Speaker 1: SOFI Stadium next Sunday for the right to go to 764 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl third time. The NFC West Division rivals 765 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:30,240 Speaker 1: will meet forty nine Ers at the Rams on Sunday 766 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: for forty in the afternoon on Fox Kevin Harvel and 767 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: Dave Pash Westwood one. Yes, the voice of the Arizona 768 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: Cardinals day passion a little extra work. Sure it was 769 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: awkward more than anything else calling a Rams victory like that, 770 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: but he does a solid job. But he is ours 771 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: as we welcome you back here to the Cardinals, Red 772 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: seare Port, Craig Rio, Lukavanibosch, and Mike Direcky before we 773 00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: discuss Part three forty nine Ers at the Rams. This 774 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: little bit of news around the nation, you know, Football 775 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: League NFL Networks Ian Rappaport the first two reports citing sources, 776 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,760 Speaker 1: Sean Payton has informed the Saints that he is stepping 777 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:14,080 Speaker 1: away Cardinals and Jay hosts the Saints next season. Yeah, 778 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we'll see what they happens at 779 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: the quarterback spot. I think if Sean Payton was there 780 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, that could have been an option for him. 781 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: They do have Dennis Allen as a defensive coordinator. He 782 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: was a head coaching league with the Raiders. I want 783 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: to say so obviously you got to go through the 784 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 1: running role. But based on Tony Romo and some of 785 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: these other guys, they're giving like ten fifteen million a 786 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:38,880 Speaker 1: year to be a broadcaster. No stress, show up on 787 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: you know Friday or Saturday, get home Sunday night. Well, 788 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: maybe Drew Brees and Sean Payton can be reunited in 789 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: the broadcast booth. Peyton or Breeze already working for NBC. 790 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: We'll so we'll see b Yeah, that's I was not 791 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: expecting that coaching move this offseason, Kyle. That's but that's 792 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,799 Speaker 1: just me without reading a bunch of tea leaves. Yeah, yeah, 793 00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 1: I had heard whispers about that something may happen, and 794 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: really over the last twenty four hours. And um, it's 795 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: it's surprising. I mean, I have to imagine he's one 796 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,799 Speaker 1: of the you know, two or three longest tenured head 797 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: coaches with the team he's at, and um, he's had 798 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: tremendous success there, and um he's done great things in 799 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: the in the New Orleans community as well. So UM, 800 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: it is a bit of a surprise. But um, like 801 00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: you said, I'm sure he's got plenty of opportunities to 802 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: go make money elsewhere. And and the thing is, um, 803 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: when when you look at it from you know, um, 804 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:34,040 Speaker 1: Sean Payton's the tweet is he's stepping aside. So if 805 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 1: you're Jerry Jones, if he's stepping aside, that means he's 806 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: not coaching and they would probably be able to get 807 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: draft picks. But stepping aside is different because Jerry Jones, 808 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: I think he's dating Mike McCarthy, but he's not married 809 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: to him. Well, he is talking about Sean Payton leaving 810 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 1: contract years and a lot of money on the table 811 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: with this decision, if we're to believe Ian Robert Borton, 812 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: no reason not to believe him. But let's focus back 813 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,760 Speaker 1: again on the NFC Championship game. Forty nine Ers and Rams. 814 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,520 Speaker 1: They met twice in the regular season. Forty nine Ers 815 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,399 Speaker 1: won both meetings, thirty one to ten in Week ten, 816 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 1: which really turned their season around. And then to end 817 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: the regular season Week eighteen, twenty seven, twenty four to 818 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: get the forty nine Ers in to the postseason, they 819 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: rallied from a seventeen nothing first half deficit. But you look, 820 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 1: it's hard enough, Kyle to beat a team twice in 821 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: one season. Now you're gonna have to do it three times. 822 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,239 Speaker 1: But we say all this, and we know the history 823 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: between these two teams. Forty nine. Ers are beating the 824 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: Rams six straight times, including three times at SOFI Stadium. Yeah, 825 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,720 Speaker 1: this division is so weird. How how teams have success 826 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: against other teams? Yeah? And that that last game they 827 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: played that went into overtime, what that was another epic game. 828 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: And you know what I love? There's good things I 829 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: like about both teams. I really like the Niners toughness 830 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: when you have when your best players are you know, 831 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: deep Samuel and George Kittle, and you see them. Watched 832 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: them last week hobbling around on one leg and Deebo 833 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: picking up a big first down the given opportunity to 834 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 1: win the game. And Kittle, you know, he's obviously banged 835 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: up as well out there, has a big catch at 836 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 1: the end of the game. Those are the type of leaders. 837 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: When your leaders are your hardest workers and your toughest players, 838 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: they inspire the entire team. And you can see just 839 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: a different level of excitement really from both the Niners 840 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,840 Speaker 1: and the Rams. Then, you know, I don't want to 841 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:30,839 Speaker 1: keep bringing up then you saw with the Cardinals last 842 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,239 Speaker 1: Monday night. I'll say this though, Matthew Stafford, I mean 843 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: he's quieting the critics in Todd Bowls. Whether he was 844 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: going to blitz or not. Stafford versus the Blitz this 845 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,160 Speaker 1: year one hundred and thirty two five passing first, seventy 846 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: five percent, completion percentage, first, fifteen, touchdown second. So it's 847 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: not so much getting him off a spot, but he's 848 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,879 Speaker 1: protecting the ball. Beckham has been a huge edition Von 849 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: Miller Cooper Cup. Hey, listen, next year, the Cardinals are 850 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: hosting the Super Bowl. Hopefully we're talking about the Cardinals 851 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: making a run the playoffs, but I don't want to 852 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: see the Rams represent the NFC conference and I know 853 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,919 Speaker 1: Stan Crunkie is telling those guys, you guys better win. Well, 854 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: it's the first time a conference championship game will be 855 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: playing in the stadium that will host the Super Bowl, 856 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,439 Speaker 1: and potentially second straight year that the host team will 857 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:24,880 Speaker 1: be in the Super Bowl, Tampa Bay Rams. Potentially. That 858 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 1: is what's at stake this weekend. And of course piggybacking off, 859 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 1: which you said, MG following year at State Farm Stadium, 860 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: so hey, as they say, dreaming is free, of course, 861 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,800 Speaker 1: it is going to be awkward watching this one. On 862 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: Sunday forty nine. Ers at the Rams again kickoff at 863 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: four forty on Fox and then we'll discuss it one 864 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: week from today, as we will the AFC Championship game. 865 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: On that note, special thanks to those behind the scenes. 866 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 1: Senior broadcast Manager and producer Jim I'm one hundred, Technical Director, 867 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: Jeff darge Fork Debosch, Bike Jarecki, I'm preg Riel Lou. 868 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you in one week's time. Here on 869 00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals Red Sea Report. Every Tuesday, year round on 870 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. You've been listening to the 871 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals Red Sea Report. 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