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Speaker 1: Ridiculous Crime is a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Elizabeth Dutton Zaron Burnett got a question for you, Yes, sir, then,

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Speaker 2: since you're out here and how bushy eyed and bright tailed? Right, Uh,

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Speaker 2: do you know what's ridiculous? I do what's ridiculous?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you know how you we've talked about how much

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Speaker 3: you love baths. Oh yeah, right, that's not ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. That is refreshing and salubrious.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, so, but we've also talked about how

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Speaker 3: the biggest mash up culprit so far as Cheetos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think they are the top one.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So Cheetos and baths. That's where I'm going with this. Okay,

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Speaker 3: did you know we got this from a lot of

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Speaker 3: instagram root dudes that there's a Cheetos bath dust?

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Speaker 2: Is that like a bath bomb? But you've floated on

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Speaker 2: the skin of the water.

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Speaker 3: I feel like bath dust is after the production of

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Speaker 3: bath bombs. They just gather like the dust that's left

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Speaker 3: over and package it is. I'm not kidding. I think

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Speaker 3: that's what this is.

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Speaker 2: So this is the hot dog to all the better

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Speaker 2: cuts of meat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's bath bomb scrapple. So it's so anyway

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Speaker 3: there there. We were sent these pictures where there's an

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Speaker 3: icy like the blue raspberry, frozen drink, Sure fruity pebbles,

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Speaker 3: and Cheetos. They guess they came in like a three

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Speaker 3: piece set. If you wanted to buy them, they have

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Speaker 3: this pack on eBay for thirty dollars.

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Speaker 2: I want to take a I'm gonna take a soft pass.

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Speaker 3: It comes to us from Taste Beauty, which I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They're they're all about mixing up like food stuffs, but

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Speaker 3: it's like sweets, right, Okay, So I started thinking about

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Speaker 3: this Cheeto's bath dust. It's citrus scented, by the way,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't it's not cheesy, No, it doesn't. But then

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Speaker 3: I started looking at The Environmental Working Group has a

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Speaker 3: website where they'll break down the hazards of various.

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Speaker 2: Put so they look at the chemical constituents. They say,

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Speaker 2: this one will really set the water.

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Speaker 4: So Cheeto's flame in hot bath dust citrus. They gave

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Speaker 4: a four.

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Speaker 3: So the it's you know scale, it's moderate on a

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Speaker 3: scale one to ten, so it's a moderate cancer risk,

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Speaker 3: high allergies and immuno toxicity risk, low developmental and reproductive

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Speaker 3: toxicity and then moderate use restrictions and the big thing.

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Speaker 3: It's an eight that's high. Higher is worse. It's an

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Speaker 3: eight in the fragrance because there are allergy and immuno

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Speaker 3: toxicity risks, but also like endocrine disruption which is a

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Speaker 3: big deal. On non reproductive organ system toxicity. ECO toxicity

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Speaker 3: is low, and then you know moderate irritation risks. So

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Speaker 3: don't don't use it.

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Speaker 2: On the thank you for It New Jersey Wellness Scale.

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Speaker 4: It got a Yeah, it's it's bad. And you know

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Speaker 4: what else, it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Damn well, you got a second because I got another

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Speaker 2: one that's ridiculous. It doesn't involve any chemical constituents, but

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Speaker 2: it's it's a doozy Okay. Do you know that the

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Speaker 2: FBI's Most Wanted list was started in nineteen fifty? I

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Speaker 2: did not know that March fourteenth, nineteen fifty to be exact, Yes, right,

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Speaker 2: one day shy of the IDEs.

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Speaker 4: The dad was born.

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Speaker 2: Really no, no, being that it was this top ten list. Right,

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Speaker 2: of course, it becomes an instantly, a huge hit. Everybody's

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Speaker 2: talking about. It becomes big publicity for the agency, or

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Speaker 2: I guess I should say the Bureau of the FBI. Anyway.

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Speaker 2: The whole point is that within weeks of being announced

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Speaker 2: on the top ten most Wanted list, often a fugitive

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Speaker 2: would be turned in by some observant citizen, some pain

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Speaker 2: in the neck and isn't bystander like you Hi?

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Speaker 4: You just pointed at me.

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Speaker 2: I was like, wait what, You're totally the type who

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Speaker 2: would actually check out the most Wanted list once it

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Speaker 2: dropped fresh Most Wanted list guys, anyway, they'd call in

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Speaker 2: your boy. Willie Sutton, he was on the OG list

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Speaker 2: nineteen fifty made it, yeah, top of the I think

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Speaker 2: it was number nine or ten. Anyway, long comes the

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Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight most Wanted. That year, the Bureau added

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Speaker 2: a fugitive to the list, one who proved far more

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Speaker 2: elusive than any of the prior top ten criminals. They

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Speaker 2: couldn't catch this dude. The FBI chased him around the

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Speaker 2: country for nearly a year. He was spotted all over

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Speaker 2: the place. People were calling in tips. Wasn't any help

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Speaker 2: in that time. This cat used thirty five different aliases.

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Speaker 2: He stole twenty nine cars. Who he was spotted everywhere Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: There was calls from Seattle to Main, Mississipi, North Dakota,

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Speaker 2: I thought I saw him. These people weren't wrong. I

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Speaker 2: can give you two clues why this particular fugitive was

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Speaker 2: so difficult to catch and capture. For one, he was

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Speaker 2: this blue collar James Bond of mid century America. I

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Speaker 2: it away. The FBI called him the Flying bank Robber.

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Speaker 5: Okay, this is Ridiculous Crime A podcast about absurd and

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Speaker 5: outrageous capers.

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Speaker 2: Heih cons it's always ninety nine percent murder free, a

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Speaker 2: and ridiculous. Okay, yeah, okay, I put my back into

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Speaker 2: that one.

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Speaker 4: Really did.

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Speaker 2: No. This cat I want to tell you about today, Elizabeth.

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Speaker 2: His name is Frank L. Sprinds.

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Speaker 4: Frank L. Sprinds.

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Speaker 2: That's Sprinds like money spends but with an R and

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Speaker 2: ends in a Z and there's no D.

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Speaker 4: But just like that, it's exactly like frank Els.

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Speaker 2: Friends. Now, this cat was born in Akron, Ohio, on

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Speaker 2: February thirteenth, nineteen thirty good mid century American, A hard

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Speaker 2: time in America to be a young and though so

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Speaker 2: he was raised in the deprivations of the Great Depression

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Speaker 2: right now. Being too young to go off to war

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Speaker 2: when World War two came around, he didn't get to

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Speaker 2: or the adventuring abroad. He just got to know the

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Speaker 2: deprivations of rationing and all the stuff that came along

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Speaker 2: with that. So he missed out though luckily for him

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Speaker 2: on all the wanton death, the battlefield bloodshedscic trauma of war,

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Speaker 2: so you know, it was a win win for him

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Speaker 2: in that regard. However, America nineteen forty eight, frank El sprinds,

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Speaker 2: he's now eighteen years old. The warriors are over, America

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Speaker 2: is looking to move on. Everybody's about to create the

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Speaker 2: world that we know right, a new time, a new

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Speaker 2: temper is taken over the country. The fifties are beginning

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Speaker 2: a very different America than the one that you knew

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Speaker 2: before the war years for the warriors, all depression. Now

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Speaker 2: America's becoming industrial. The nation's getting stitched together with freeways,

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Speaker 2: Now we have the New America and Frank el Sprand's

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Speaker 2: eighteen years old. Now, dude, work blue collar jobs. I said,

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Speaker 2: mean he was a young cat, so it's not a

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Speaker 4: Backbreaking the word an office guy.

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Speaker 2: No, he did. He worked a couple office jobs. He

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know it's in the nineteen fifties, rold

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Speaker 2: around Elizabeth. What comes along but beautiful new cars because

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Speaker 2: So of course when the war ends, people they take

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Speaker 2: to these new freeways being built. They have these new cars.

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Speaker 2: It's just go, go, go. And here's this guy. He's

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Speaker 2: like looking at all these cars and the beautiful they said,

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Speaker 3: One of the most beautiful cars is a forty nine Mercury.

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Speaker 2: Totally great call taste, I do. Now this is as

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Speaker 2: I've said the automobile. Basically, it's becoming America's defining technology,

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Speaker 2: for crime, right, so we'd start seeing interstate crime in.

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Speaker 4: A big, big way. Right, that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Middle all of this, I said Frank L. Sprint, who

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Speaker 2: really loved other people's cars. He's like, they have so

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Speaker 2: So what would he do, Elizabeth? He would borrow them?

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Speaker 4: Oh, quote unquote.

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Speaker 2: Borrow okay, whatever the law would say. He stole them

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Speaker 2: bring them back. I just want to take him for

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Speaker 3: He's a guy who, you know, never he never met

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Speaker 3: a stranger. Everyone's his friends, exactly, borrowing from everybody.

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Speaker 2: He's just Will Rogers behind the wheel exactly. Now. Also,

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Speaker 2: though he'd finally found something he was good at, okay,

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Speaker 2: telling he could stick to as a career. So he's

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Speaker 2: it's amazing he tried to go straight at this point,

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Speaker 2: so like one time he stole a car and he

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Speaker 2: drove over to the recruiting station so he could join

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Speaker 2: the army. Right, He's like trying to mix his his talents.

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Speaker 2: He's like, yo, I got a fresh body, young, I

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Speaker 2: could go.

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Speaker 4: Fight the ticket for one to the forgotten war exactly.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, try as he might, though, going straight didn't

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Speaker 2: last long for him, but he did get into the army.

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Speaker 2: So while he was in the army, he also stole cars,

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Speaker 2: so he was stationed in Baltimore. He stole multiple cars.

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Speaker 2: He claimed the numbers as high as fifteen cars, so

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Speaker 2: he really got to work right anyway, Stanton the army

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Speaker 2: didn't last long. He didn't like taking orders. A lot

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Speaker 2: of the people we cover this is a common theme.

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Speaker 2: I was in the army, didn't last anyway, No surprises there.

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Speaker 2: World War is over, so it really is nothing holding

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Speaker 2: him in Korea hadn't really kicked off at this point,

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Speaker 2: so he gets back to blue collar work. He works

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Speaker 2: as an auto mechanic, like I said, a car guy.

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Speaker 2: By his late twenties, his life path has now begun

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Speaker 2: to take shape, right, so he does the next expected thing,

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Speaker 2: he winds up in prison. You see, he caught a

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Speaker 2: bad rap after he'd robbed the Olympic bar in Akron, Ohio.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, allegedly he robbed a bar in his hometown in

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Speaker 2: broad daylight. Oh yeah, so there was no mistaking and anyway,

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Speaker 2: the daylight robbery of the bar, him and his crew

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Speaker 4: That's a lot then.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Then he had a crew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well a couple guys. Yeah, this year, the year

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Speaker 2: Heck, yeah, right, I don't know many bars to keep

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a lot of these dudes to them impatient.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just like, look I got it, I got

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Speaker 4: Impatient. They don't respect authority.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 4: The names are zaren Saren Hey.

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Speaker 2: So this guy, he's good with tools, right, he's used

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Speaker 2: Now at this point it's April nineteen fifty eight. Frank

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Speaker 2: get caught within two weeks. All four guys sprints. He

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Speaker 2: He's busted out of jail, and they love people bust

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Speaker 2: we can catch these folks, right, and it's like a

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Speaker 2: He disappears into the big western states with the little population.

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Speaker 2: Because remember once again, nineteen fifties, this is like before

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Speaker 2: he's actually in Seattle, far from Akron, Ohio. By September

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Speaker 2: ninth that same year, nineteen fifty eight, the FBI, they

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Speaker 2: I found an AP wire service story about Spriends making

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Speaker 2: nineteen fifty eight. The Spokane Chronicle headline Fancy Dan is

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Speaker 4: Fancy Dan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was his first nickname, Like when he.

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Speaker 4: Was making his way.

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Speaker 2: I just love that headline. I don't know why. So

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Speaker 2: what are you in for? Who are you? They call

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Speaker 2: me Fancy Dan, and I'm in here for Robin a

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Speaker 2: The reason why they called him that was they like

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Speaker 2: that he had these aspirations at preppiness and Ivy League standing.

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Speaker 2: He liked Ivy League clothes. He also wore a two

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Speaker 2: pay to make him look younger. Fancy last yeah, so

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Speaker 2: they called him Fancy Dan. All right, So frank Al

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Speaker 2: most Wanted Fugitives list. The FBI said the twenty eight

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Speaker 2: an extremely dangerous described as quote vicious. Sprinds is reputed

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Speaker 2: to be an excellent marksman who will quote shoot without provocation.

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Speaker 4: They love to.

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Speaker 2: Take the easy shots. Right here we go, and I

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Speaker 2: quote the agency says, Spriends, who likes to wear Ivy

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Speaker 2: the simple addition of a two pay. His moods can

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Speaker 3: Well, listen, they didn't seem to insult him as much

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Speaker 2: Now, but in case you missed the two pay of

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Speaker 2: it all, yeaheah, he doubles back and hits smash on

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Speaker 2: the two pay button right, and the ap the wire Service.

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Speaker 2: This new stories followed suit quote. The FBI circular shows

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Speaker 2: him with and without a two pay, which he sometimes wears.

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Speaker 2: Without the two pay, he looks older than his twenty

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Speaker 2: so good ad for two pays though, yeaway. Of course,

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Speaker 2: Sprinds is an avid gun collector and gun trader, preferring

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, wait, so they're like, did you steal this gun?

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Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, and accidentally also stole fifty Shoot. I

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Speaker 4: shouldn't have said that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, forget the guns. I like, you stole a couple

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Speaker 2: big nerve numbers people. Okay, So now about this point

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Speaker 2: he's made the big time. He's still free out on

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Speaker 4: Elizabeth no, I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well let's take a break, and after this I

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Speaker 2: will tell you all about what my man was doing

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Speaker 4: Ye all right, Elizabeth, okays Aaron, We're back.

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Speaker 2: Yep. So my man Frank L. Sprinds. I asked you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, herunge A good call.

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Speaker 2: Good guess. No, but he was doing what I would

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Speaker 2: was taking flying listens. Oh my god. So while he's

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Speaker 2: You know, he needed some traveling money, some folding cash,

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Speaker 2: Frank's friends, he heads back East, where he knows the

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Speaker 2: So we're so smart because the FBI is not usually

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Speaker 2: my best life, Elizabeth. This man he snuck onto the

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like a wily coyote kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: So what kind of plane did he steal? Remember, I said,

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Speaker 2: he's living my best life. He stole a seaplane so

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Speaker 2: he can land anywhere. Now you know how much I

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Speaker 4: I go somewhere where there's water. I would assume good call.

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Speaker 2: He does the next natural thing. He plans to take

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Speaker 2: bank robber, right, I think flying bandit would have been

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Speaker 4: But isn't there already? Well later on there's a flying band.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course that's because the name was so awesome.

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Speaker 2: flying bandit flying bank rubber. Anyway, So, as I said,

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Speaker 2: Frank el Spran's living my best life. He goes, he

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Speaker 4: Somewhere where there's water.

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Speaker 2: On the East coast. Oh, on the east Coast's in Toronto?

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Speaker 4: Baltimore? Does he go? I don't know. I feel like

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Speaker 4: But uh, somewhere in Virginia.

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Speaker 2: No, you said it, Baltimore he went? He goes to

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Speaker 4: Middle data to Annapolis.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no, he goes to the barn. I guess he

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Speaker 2: was the mood for fresh crabs because he was just like,

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Speaker 4: Toolis best place on it.

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Speaker 2: You knew it. Knowing these on the FBI's top ten

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Speaker 2: most wanted list, he saides, I've been to fly back

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Speaker 2: so I'm gonna head to somewhere I know. So he

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Speaker 2: where you happen to be. Yeah, oh really, yeah, mid

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Speaker 2: an impression of mid century Elizabeth?

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Speaker 4: Oh god, all right, let me just get into character.

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Speaker 3: Here have a body smith, I'm Elizabeth, and I'm abouts

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Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there it is.

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Speaker 2: So now that we've set the table and we're in

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Speaker 4: Can I hurt myself on the Elizabeth, I'd like you to.

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Speaker 2: Close your eyes and picture ells. You are in a

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Speaker 2: So far. I've just been enjoying the music in this

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Speaker 2: with the art deco light up front, a tune place.

432
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,919
Speaker 2: It is a tune you put on the Louis Jordan

433
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,640
Speaker 2: and his Timpany five track. Ain't nobody here but us chickens.

434
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 2: It's a silly song, but you dig it. Now, you

435
00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 2: get your drink refreshed. You can leave a healthy tip

436
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:44,280
Speaker 2: for the bartender, because you're just like that. And then

437
00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,680
Speaker 2: you raise your glass of non alcoholic wine aka grape juice,

438
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 2: but with a splash of soda cause it's a mocktail.

439
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,960
Speaker 2: But they don't know what that is in nineteen fifty nine.

440
00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 2: So anyway, these working class folks in Baltimore, they have

441
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: little interest in your weird drink. But the bartender, he

442
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,080
Speaker 2: clinks your glasses, his head, cheers anyway, and you step

443
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: outside for some fresh air. Now you walk out onto

444
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: the wooden observation deck that looks out over at the

445
00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 2: Baltimore Harbor. You hear it before you see it, the

446
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 2: propellers of a plane. You look skyward and gauging the clouds,

447
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 2: and then out of the fog over the water. It

448
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:20,520
Speaker 2: appears it is a seaplane. The plane doesn't circle over

449
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 2: the waterfront. You take a drink of your grape juice

450
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,959
Speaker 2: and watch it. Then it flies low, as if it's

451
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 2: judging whether it's safe to land in the harbor. You

452
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 2: call back to the bartender, who you've learned his name

453
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: while you've been there this past hour. Frankie, Frankie, come quick,

454
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 2: you gotta see this. The bartender steps outside, wiping his

455
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: hands on his long white apron. What is it? Yes, luck,

456
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 2: You point at the seaplane. Both of you watches. The

457
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: seaplane comes in low over the water and sets down

458
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: his pontoons and glides across the bay waters taxis over

459
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: to a waterfront. You think he's military, The bartender asks,

460
00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:56,160
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't think that's legal. You surmise.

461
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: Now the two of you watch the seaplane pull up

462
00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,919
Speaker 2: to a dock in the marina. It's a slip mint

463
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 2: for a boat. No plane is supposed to park there.

464
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: The pilot bounce from the plane. He looks around like

465
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: he's expecting company or the cops, and then he walks

466
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,040
Speaker 2: away real quick and walks right order over towards you.

467
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: Guys where the lights are on a bar. He comes

468
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,400
Speaker 2: over the pilot. He gives a conspiratorial smile to both

469
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 2: you and Frankie the Bartender, and then steps inside. Frankie

470
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 2: the Bartender follows him, and then you follow Frankie the Bartender.

471
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,479
Speaker 2: He pulls out a watt of cash, far more than

472
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 2: most folks in this place have seen it forever. They've

473
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: never seen a bank roll like that, in fact, unless

474
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 2: it was in the movies. The strange part, though, is

475
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,239
Speaker 2: it's a role of Canadian money, So the Loonies as

476
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: they called up north. Frankie decides to take the Canadian dollars,

477
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: mostly for the novelty of it all. The stranger orders

478
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 2: a brandy to warm himself up. You ask him if

479
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: he's the one who set that seaplane down in the harbor.

480
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 2: Knowing the answer, this stranger just nods. You ask him

481
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,000
Speaker 2: if he's heard of Tommy Fits aka Lucky Fits, who

482
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,480
Speaker 2: just landed a plane in New York City in nineteen

483
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 2: fifty six. But you remember that that may not be news,

484
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 2: even though you know it from being a time traveler. Well,

485
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: there's yeah, the stranger says, I don't know this Lucky Fits.

486
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: You just smile and nod. Of course he hasn't heard

487
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 2: from him. Maybe it's not been big news anyway. You

488
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: quickly change the subjects and say, Frankie, the bartender ought

489
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: to call the newspaper guy, because if it's true, you

490
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:18,280
Speaker 2: can get this guy in the news, then he'll be

491
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: a big story. The guy landing the Baltimore Harbor. I mean,

492
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 2: come on, that's amazing. Frankie laughs. He says the newspaper

493
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 2: reporter that he knows the only one he knows. He'd

494
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: come down to the bar, and he'd need to get

495
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 2: Patton's fifth Army to get him to leave. So you laugh,

496
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: and you turn to ask the stranger if he'd like

497
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: to even be in the newspaper, and you see that

498
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 2: he is gone. The stranger's back is all you see

499
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,880
Speaker 2: is he heads for the door. Over his shoulder, he says,

500
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: thanks for the drink. He shure to look for me

501
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,439
Speaker 2: in the funny papers, and then the battle above the

502
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 2: door shines, and with that he's gone. The door swings

503
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: shut behind him. The pilot guy doesn't walk back to

504
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,119
Speaker 2: his seaplane. Instead, he hails a cab and he disappears

505
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 2: into the night.

506
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 4: Huh okay, amazing.

507
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 2: Now later that next morning, Elizabeth, you would have stayed

508
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 2: in your quantum late.

509
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 4: Body at Sparrow's Point exactly.

510
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,399
Speaker 2: When the Baltimore PD showed up at the waterfront and

511
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: the cops investigated the scene, namely the stolen seaplane. The

512
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 2: detectives discovered that there were a few clothes left behind

513
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 2: in the plane that gave them a couple clues. The

514
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 2: police also found a couple fake IDs. They assumed they

515
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 2: would be helpful, but at this point those ideas had

516
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: to be burnt and they were unlikely to be used again.

517
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: Pilot was in the wind. Meanwhile, mystery stranger Frank else friends,

518
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 2: what's he doing?

519
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, what is he doing?

520
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: He's feeling cocky, Elizabeth. At this point, he's toying with

521
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 2: the FBI. He's leaving the atrayal of crumbs in the

522
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 2: form of stolen planes. The FBI has trailed this escape

523
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 2: convict all across the country. They almost caught up to

524
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: them in Norfolk, Virginia. Then were the reported sidings of

525
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: him in Seattle. The FBI showed up in Seattle far

526
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: too late. Then there were reports of sidings of him

527
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: in Detroit, and then there were sightings of him in Toronto.

528
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: The fact that he next showed up in Baltimore wasn't

529
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: particularly surprising, as I told you, because been stationed there

530
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 2: in the army. That's where he'd been a successful young carthief.

531
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 2: By this point, though, the FBI is out of leeds.

532
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 2: They don't even know what to do, and their partners

533
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: in local law enforcement are in full pursuit with them,

534
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: but they don't know where to look. Basically, at this point,

535
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: everybody's in hot pursuit, as my man Beautforte Justice was saying,

536
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: but they can't see the bandit because he's a flying

537
00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 2: Now after he'd escaped detection in Baltimore, Frank's friends, where's

538
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: he go? He moves north North, Okay, to this point,

539
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 2: it's February nineteen fifty nine. And what does he do?

540
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,720
Speaker 2: He steals a plane, sure, because that's just how what

541
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: do think he learned to fly for so and he's

542
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: already good at stealing stuff. He just combined interest. Now

543
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: he was in Scranton, Pennsylvania. Oh you know Scranton.

544
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched The Office. I mean I would if

545
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: I watched TV.

546
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 2: It's home to under Mifflin Paper. If I'm not mistaken,

547
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 2: never mind, you don't watch TV. You do know what

548
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 2: I'm talking about. February nineteen fifty nine, Scranton, PA. Frank

549
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: Elsprinds rolls into town. He's like, is cornpop here? No?

550
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 2: He is. He goes to the local municipal airport. The

551
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 2: picture a local airport, just a small place with hangars

552
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: and some like planes, planes on the tarmac. Thank you,

553
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 2: right now, this is what your people like. Those wind socks, Yes, exactly,

554
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: wind socks. And if you're into planes, picture Piper cubs.

555
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: Picture like Cessna's Diamond DA forties. That's the training.

556
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,360
Speaker 4: Plane basically the litlands Yeah.

557
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 2: Exactly, like a lot of learner planes. Right, So the

558
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 2: single engine propeller plane so forth right, wings over the

559
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 2: cabin for a lot of them, you know, with the

560
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: strauts underneath. So frank el sprints he's snuck out on

561
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: the tarmac of the Scranton Municipal Airport. He finds himself

562
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,360
Speaker 2: a plane, thinks he can fly. He makes sure it's

563
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: gassed up, and then he steals it.

564
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, tommy, right there, right exactly.

565
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 2: Now. I don't know if he wasn't logging flights plans

566
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: with the tower. I don't know if your boy Tommy

567
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 2: fitz did that.

568
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 4: I don't think he did.

569
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if he was required.

570
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 4: I don't know because broken.

571
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 2: Okay, there you go. So either way, this guy steals

572
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 2: a plane, takes off, flies north, and then he flies east.

573
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: He aims his small plane at Vermont. He's like, oh,

574
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: just flying airport over there in the trees somewhere over Burlington.

575
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: Though he had plane trouble. He had to improvise a

576
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: landing and it did not go well, Elizabeth, crash the plane,

577
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: just destroy the plane. According to the Daily Courier, I

578
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000
Speaker 2: looked up this February seventeenth, nineteen fifty nine edition quote.

579
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: The plane was badly damaged in the landing. Police said,

580
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: sprints walked away.

581
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: Why we keep talking about all these people who crash

582
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 3: planes and then just stroll off.

583
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 2: It's making me. It's giving me ideas, Elizabeth, it's giving

584
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: me idea. So I guess he was good enough pilot

585
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,439
Speaker 2: to land on the plane's belly and just and not

586
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 2: nose dive into the earth. That's usually what will kill you.

587
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: I think you can kind of nose dive.

588
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 3: And you and then your feet come through the bottom

589
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: and the bottoms of your shoes get skidded all.

590
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 2: Too exactly Flintstone saw. You know, it's like I'm going

591
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: to duck Lands on water, That's what I picture, but

592
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 2: with the plane on grass. Anyway, he grasses the plane.

593
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,639
Speaker 2: In this case, it was snowy ground because it was

594
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 2: Vermont and it's February. So he lands in snow and

595
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: he just walks away.

596
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 4: Then sweet powder walk.

597
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 2: He continues walking through that fresh pow pow, and he

598
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: gets to share a plane Vermont, and he gathers himself

599
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 2: up and he walks all this, as I said, through

600
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: the snowy woods for a while. So he's got to

601
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 2: be like pretty darn cold and sweaty and just all raggled. Anyway,

602
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: follows the road reaches the.

603
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: Town two roads diverged in a wood.

604
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: Thank you, missus Frost, Yes, exactly. Do you ever hear

605
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: of the town Whinosaki?

606
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 4: What's the state Vermont?

607
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: Vermont Winnessaki? No, I maybe pronouncing it incorrectly.

608
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 4: It sounds like Rhode Island kind of thing.

609
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, I may be wrong. I actually I'm pretty sure

610
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 2: he's Winnasak. Anyway, that's where he walked into a used

611
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 2: car lot. He finds the night attendant there working at

612
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: the used car lot. We guess he's just left in

613
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 2: charge of sales. I'm imagining like some fail sun there

614
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: or like no, like a cousin of the owner. Anyway, charms.

615
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: This guy tells him he was in the market for

616
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: a used car. Guy who goes, oh, sure, it's kind

617
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 2: of late, but are you sure. He's like, oh, yeah,

618
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 2: I'm a traveling salesman or whatever. Right, He manages to

619
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: convince this guy he just needs to take the used

620
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 2: car for a test drive. See this baby's reliable, right,

621
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 2: Guy's like okay and lets him go. He's gone that yeah,

622
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: one of the twenty nine cars he steals. After that,

623
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: the local press reported quote the police had no further

624
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 2: information of his whereabouts at this time, so once again

625
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: he's in the wind now, Elizabeth, do you know about

626
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 2: boarding houses kind of stay in one year familiar?

627
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: I actually when my senior year in college, I lived

628
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 3: in like a converted boarding house, just like rooms, and

629
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 3: you had like a prison sink in the corner of

630
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 3: the bedroom, and then there was like a communal bathroom

631
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: in the hall.

632
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: But did you also do the communal dining room where

633
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 2: everybody from no come down for meals. That's part of

634
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: the boarding house. It does all come down and eat whatever.

635
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: We did not have that, the matron or the whoever

636
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 2: owns the place.

637
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah we didn't have that. But I'm familiar with that kind.

638
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: Okay, well yeah, have you ever seen old movies, You've

639
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: probably familiar. So that's that's pretty much how I'd want

640
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: to travel free at Airbnb, freet hotels, motels. I want

641
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: to be in someone's home and they just make all

642
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: these meals, their home cooked meals. I have a bed.

643
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: I mean that to be is amazing.

644
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 4: I hate that.

645
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: I hate going to like B and b's, like pre airbn,

646
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: those are precious, no, because first of all, like you

647
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 3: have to wake up at a certain time.

648
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: I'm generally a very early riser.

649
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 3: Sure, but like especially like if you're in somewhere like

650
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 3: Scotland where they're like it's seven am, get up.

651
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like people at breakfast?

652
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, but am I'm not.

653
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 2: What's the problem here?

654
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 4: You know you're on vacation. You want to just chill?

655
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, sure, whatever you eat, you can get up,

656
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: eat breakfast and go back to bed.

657
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: I don't like people looking at me.

658
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 2: Oh that's what it is that too. Yeah? Also, and yes,

659
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I don't you know me, I don't

660
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 2: want to go down and sit around a table and

661
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: make small talk. Hell no, but then I can just

662
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: I found that you can avoid that. You just act

663
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 2: like the mystery stranger. You just have one word answers

664
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: and eat your meal. Then they'll tell stories about you.

665
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. That's actually a really good tactic.

666
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: Become the mystery stranger of any event. One word answers.

667
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 2: That's all you do. Anyway, So Franko's friends, he's doing

668
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: my move. He's being the mystery stranger. He's hanging out

669
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: in boarding houses. He's trying to lay low. So basically

670
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: a picture him like an Hitchcock film. And he finds

671
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: a phone book. I guess his recommendation from a local

672
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: any ray, it doesn't matter. I don't know what his

673
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: story is. He phones the promenade in the proprietor of

674
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 2: Missus lv Raddle. She had just returned home from church.

675
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: She was busy doing her duties in the hotel boarding house,

676
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: and according to the April eleventh edition of the Press

677
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: Herald of Portland, Maine, at ten am, Missus lv Raddle

678
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: receives a call. It's from a strange man. He wanted

679
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 2: to let her room, whereas we would say book a room, right.

680
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: She told him that she did indeed have a few vacancies.

681
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: She had a room for him. He said, I'll be

682
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 2: right there. Hey, a couple words. That's the exception.

683
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 4: He's a couple of the mysterious strangers.

684
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 2: At eleven am, the stranger walks into her boarding house

685
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: and missus lv rattle recalled to the press. I didn't

686
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 2: even have to show him the room. He just took it.

687
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: I'll take it. See once again, the changer said he

688
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: had to name. His name was Jerry Bona of Burlington, Vermont. Bona, Hey,

689
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: Jerry Bona, you know. And he explained that he'd been

690
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 2: traveling for a long time. He hadn't slept in two days.

691
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 2: He was real, real tired. So she took him to

692
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: the room and then she didn't see him again. Ever.

693
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 2: He slept all Sunday afternoon and all not Sunday night.

694
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: He woke up on Monday, so he sleeps the whole

695
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: day away.

696
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: She wasn't banging on the door at seven, like, come

697
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 4: down house.

698
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 2: They don't want to rash you like that. Yeah, they

699
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: do well maybe in Scotland. So he wakes up Monday afternoon,

700
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 2: he tries to sneak out of the boarding house. He

701
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: takes the backstairs and you know, as if someone were

702
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: looking for him, you know, the old like, hey, I'll

703
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 2: take the musicians entrance exactly. So it turns out the

704
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: stranger Frank al Sprints is on the FBI's most wanted list,

705
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: so that's why he would take the backstairs. Someone was

706
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: looking for him, all of Jaegger's boys. So the daughter,

707
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: missus Donna Lafleur, she's the only one to spot him.

708
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: She happened to be in the kitchen in the back

709
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 2: of the house. She hears footsteps on the backstairs. Nobody

710
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,239
Speaker 2: ever uses the backstairs, so she's like, oh, what's that.

711
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: Being a good busy body, she gets up from where

712
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: she's like snapping green beans or whatever. Yeah, and then

713
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 2: she goes and she goes to look to see who

714
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: it is. She sees the guy that she only knows

715
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: as they're one lodger that nobody's talked to. She finds out, yeah,

716
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 2: that it's this guy, you know, mister Boner.

717
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 4: And because he has a speech impediment, that's.

718
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: What he's saying no. So she she basically makes some

719
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: noise at the glass or where maybe like moves some

720
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 2: something in the sink, and he hears the.

721
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 3: Noise up and she puts her face on the glass

722
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 3: and then blows out so you can see all her teeth.

723
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 2: Yes, like the blowfish. But look at my grill.

724
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.

725
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: So she does that and he looks and he's like, wow,

726
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: nice grill. And then they catch eyes and she notices

727
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: that he's got this like look in his eyes. She

728
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: doesn't recognize it, but she recognizes it's trouble. And then

729
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: he looks at her. He sees that she sees a look,

730
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: and he takes off right. He's like, I'm out of

731
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: here now. The daughter, she she grows mad, suspicious, So

732
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: what does she do? She phones the local police. The

733
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: police come over. They listen to her version of events,

734
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,959
Speaker 2: and then they ask her if she'd look at some photos.

735
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: They show her. It was called a rogue's gallery, which

736
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 2: is basically a bunch of mugs shots right. She agrees

737
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: to look them over. She picked out Frank Alsprind's boom

738
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: right out of the bat. That's him. Officers. Now turns

739
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: out she had just spent the you know, a couple

740
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: nights with number two on the top ten most wanted list. Yeah,

741
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 2: we'll not like a couple of nights that way. But yeah, Anyways,

742
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: the good news for the FBI was he paid in

743
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: advance for multiple nights. Oh, he'd also left a bunch

744
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: of his stuff behind. It was likely he was headed

745
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: back and he had no reason to be super suspicious

746
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: other than that one weird look from the daughter.

747
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:17,919
Speaker 4: Yeah.

748
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: So the FBI they called in reinforcements, Elizabeth, and they

749
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 2: set up a trap.

750
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 4: Did they hide under the bed, Yes.

751
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 2: They did, and they said he's coming back. Nobody say

752
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: anything that means you, Tony. So let's take a little break.

753
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:33,840
Speaker 2: We'll see if Tony can be quiet and not jinx.

754
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 6: Frank al sprinds sounds good?

755
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: All right, Elizabeth, we're back, Yes we are. We got

756
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: the FBI under the bed for Frank l. Sprints. Now,

757
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: at this point, the local cops, you know, they've been

758
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: chasing their tail, and they'd also been chasing any leads

759
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: that they got because they know the FBI. There's a

760
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: little competition but amongst law enforcement, right, so now they

761
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 2: know they've heard that the FBI guys are in town.

762
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: They're not supposed to tell anybody, but they're trying really

763
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: hard to catch this guy on their own. So Burlington

764
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 2: Daily News they ran a story of February eighteenth, nineteen

765
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 2: fifty nine, about in Saco, Maine, the state troopers pulled

766
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 2: over a yellow car with New York plates. There was

767
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 2: one man driving, and when the main state troopers threw

768
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: on their lights, the man of the yellow car floored it.

769
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 2: He led the police on one hundred mile long high

770
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 2: speed chase. Wow, eventually he did, ed the police. Yes

771
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: he makes it way, Yes, he he's still good cars. No,

772
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: well just listen. So the state police are diligent, though,

773
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: so they go scouring everywhere they can, and they finally

774
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 2: catch up to this yellow car because there's not a

775
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: lot of yellow cars at the time apparently, and they

776
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 2: find one hiding out in Sacho, Maine or Saco Maine.

777
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: They find the driver and it's not Frank al Sprinds.

778
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 2: It's just some panic to New Yorker who were like,

779
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: who were these crazy redneck cops chasing after me? So

780
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 2: he'd take an off on one hundred mile long chase,

781
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: That's what he said.

782
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 4: I don't know if that's true, filthy.

783
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: I think yeah, I think he was like, you know,

784
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: maybe with the bent nosee. I'm with the thing, you know,

785
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: our thing, our special things. So back to missus Raddle's

786
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: boarding house, FBI they set up they have a steak

787
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: out going or I don't know, raid, I don't know

788
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 2: what you'd call it a trap.

789
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 3: Missus Raddle's boarding house is like a Lost Beatles track

790
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 3: and they're like.

791
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: Anyway, it sounds like something Paul would write to explain

792
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: the sudden presence of a bunch of well groomed square

793
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 2: jobs special agents. The FBI agents had booked a bunch

794
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: of rooms in the boardinghouse, and they're gonna pretend to

795
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: love it. Other people in the boarding house, they decide

796
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: that they're going to be traveling musicians.

797
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 4: Stop, yes, didn't we have an another story?

798
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: We got the Tommy fit stuff. Oh wasn't it Bumfardo.

799
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 3: They all pretended they were in like a karate tournament.

800
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right.

801
00:36:58,960 --> 00:36:59,959
Speaker 4: So I'm seeing a past.

802
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 2: So these guys pretend like they treated like their al

803
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 2: Capones boys. They're going to show up with musical instrument

804
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 2: cases loaded with guns. That's why they pretend to become

805
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: traveling musicians. They need to get away to get their

806
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: guns into the boarding house, so they have pistols, revolvers,

807
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: submachine guns. So they're coming in. This is a big band.

808
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 2: This is what I'm saying. They've got a lot of instruments.

809
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: So as I remember, also Sprints, he's got a reputation

810
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: is being a very dangerous man. So yeah, the FBI

811
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 2: agents they've investigated what Sprints has left behind in the room,

812
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 2: and they found a dozen different car keys. He has

813
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: one that's a master key for a particular model. I

814
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: think it's for Chevy's based on some of the car Z.

815
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: Steel so like, you know the kind of security flawed

816
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 3: that a Chevy would have.

817
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 2: Oh shots fired, huh, you know, whatever fix or repair daily. Now.

818
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: He also left behind clothing, a top coat, jeans, boots,

819
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 2: a cap, and there was a newspaper that was left open,

820
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: and it was left open on a page about him.

821
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 2: He was reading his own press. He's like, yeah, that's right,

822
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: look at that. So the FBI agents they hunker down,

823
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: they're hoping he's gonna reach turn. They got their walkie talkies.

824
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: They're keeping in contact with each other, Like Tony, you're

825
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: there Ye, this is a moon moondiver over stat Now

826
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: they end up staying at this boarding house.

827
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 4: For a week to the other guy's moondiver.

828
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 3: Tony doesn't get a no expect for Tony or is

829
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: Moondiver like early hippie parents.

830
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 2: You know me up the good point high with hippie

831
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 2: parents before hippies existed, Agent Moondiver, he got like og

832
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: nineteen thirties hippie parents. They're like just old socialists or

833
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: you guess young socialists at then. Anyway, so oh, in all,

834
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: there are thirty FBI agents hidden in around the Portland

835
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: main area, and there's a bunch in the boarding house.

836
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,840
Speaker 2: They're there for a week and none of them, not

837
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,280
Speaker 2: a single one of them spot frank als friends because

838
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: he's long gone. He got that look from the door.

839
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 4: He's like exactly.

840
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: So he stole a car, drove down to Salem, New York,

841
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 2: ditched it, stole another car in Portsmith's, New Hampshire, and

842
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: then after he bummed a ride from a small like

843
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 2: a sawmill worker, he met this guy named Robert the Air.

844
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: He also that guy he picks Frank el sprends out

845
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 2: from a Rogues gallery. So we know it was him.

846
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: Then the sawmill worker dropped him off at a garage

847
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: in Kennebunk, Maine. He asked the garage man, this is

848
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 2: Frank el Sprinds. He asked the garage man if he

849
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 2: could borrow a wrench. The guy's like, oh, sure, buddy.

850
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: He never returned the round over the head. No, no, he's

851
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 2: not like that kind of violent. But the garage man's like,

852
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: and he never returned the wrench, right, So he used it,

853
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: of course to steal a car and drive off. Then

854
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: he ditched that car in Sanford, Maine. So he's just

855
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: moving like yeah, as fast as he can. According to

856
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: the February twenty first edition of the Boston Globe, Quote,

857
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: state police set up roadblocks from the Massachusetts line to

858
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 2: the Canadian border last night in an effort to capture

859
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 2: Frank L. Sprinds, public Enemy number ten. At some point

860
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 2: he stole another car, because that car gets left behind

861
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: in Portsmouth, New Hampshire. He's just zig zagging across the

862
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 2: sleepy towns of New England, and for traveling money, he'd

863
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: stop and rob a bank. So in Hampden, Connecticut, he

864
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: robbed a bank for twelve grand and then just like

865
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 2: always disappears, and then he's the surfaces again the next

866
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: month in a Hamelin, Ohio. He's moved west. Now he

867
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 2: robs a bank there for twenty five nine and fifty

868
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: five dollars. The FBI hears about this bank job. They're like, wait,

869
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 2: he's not in New England anymore. They go racing out

870
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: to the first National bank and Trust company the description

871
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: of the bank robber. They go, that's him, that's our man,

872
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 2: that's Frank. Al Sprins Now to the agent says, he said,

873
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 2: there was little doubt that it was Frank. Now, how

874
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 2: do they know it was him? Because he was so

875
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 2: damn polite? Oh that the FBI. They've been telling the

876
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 2: public the whole time that he's this violent, gun collecting,

877
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: gun trading, desperate man. But the FBI agents know for

878
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 2: a fact from all the reports that he's actually super

879
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: nice and kind. He's been going along. Yeah, he thanked

880
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 2: his bank robbery victims and then he wished them a

881
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: good day. And that's how they knew it was him.

882
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 2: They're like, it has to be him. He's the only one.

883
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 2: He's doing this.

884
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 4: I love it.

885
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 2: So, yeah, you can take the boy out of the Midwest.

886
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 2: You can't take the Midwest out of the boy. So hey,

887
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: Frank al sprands number ten most wanted. He's feeling the

888
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 2: heat at this point. He knows he needs to get

889
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: out of the out of this area of Ohio, and

890
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 2: he also knows he needs some gas money, so he

891
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: robs the bank, as I told you. Then he heads

892
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 2: out to the Ohio Municipal Airport steals a plane. He

893
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: flies at one hundred and sixty miles north until I

894
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 2: assume he ran out of gas, because yet again, he

895
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: crashes a plane and the small craft slams into the

896
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 2: ground near someplace called Cooshockton, Ohio. Okay, so yet again

897
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: he walks away unscathed. Again, my man, he walks into

898
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: downtown Kashockton, Ohio or Cashington, and he walks to a

899
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: used car lot. Four hours later, fifty five miles north,

900
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 2: the car he just bought was found abandoned.

901
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 4: Right, so he actually bought Oh yeah, yeah.

902
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: He's not always stealing cars. He only stealshim with. But

903
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 2: he's desperate. If he's robbed the bank recently, then he'll

904
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,959
Speaker 2: give money to somebody. He's like, look, I canna even.

905
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,720
Speaker 4: To make it deals true, you need to be true.

906
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 2: So he leaves that car parked behind a bar, then

907
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: hes he's seen removing the dealer plates. He goes into

908
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: the bar with a paperback filled with money. At this

909
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: point it's about twenty five thousand dollars, but I assume

910
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 2: about twenty to maybe he spent a couple grand for

911
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: the car. So he tells the bartender he needs to

912
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: wait for a friend. He said, is that cool? Is

913
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 2: that cool if I wait here? And the guy's like,

914
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: oh yeah, of course. He's got to be bleeding and

915
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: bruised from the plane crash. He's survived, right. The bartender's like, sure, buddy,

916
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: you just sit down right. So he takes up residence

917
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 2: in the phone booth. He starts making calls, and he's

918
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: got a lot of dimes because he makes a lot

919
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: of calls. Like a half hour later, an old Nash

920
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: Rambler pulls up outside of the bar. Sprince walks out,

921
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 2: gets in the car, disappears. That's it. Doesn't say anything.

922
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 2: Nobody knows anything. This is all the FBI get. He

923
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: showed up and an old Nash Rambler. That's what she

924
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: got for us. Thanks. So the FBI, once again, trail

925
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 2: has ended. He has ghosted yet again, crashed a plane

926
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: and all of it. They were pretty close on him,

927
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: and then he gets to Ohio and makes his escape.

928
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: So at this point, what does the FBI do, Elizabeth.

929
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: They they've got to explain all this to Jagger Hoover.

930
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: He is not a patient man. This is now making

931
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 2: headlines across the country. They are looking like fools on

932
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: a Monday morning. Every Monday morning.

933
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: Don't even catch number ten.

934
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 2: No, exactly, he's not even in the top.

935
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 3: Five, Like the lower part of the list should just

936
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 3: be rotating really quickly.

937
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 4: As that's the thing.

938
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 2: And so anyway, the Cleveland Field Office they are put

939
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: in charge of running this investigation, right, They're like, look,

940
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 2: you're he's he's come back to his home state. We're thinking,

941
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 2: maybe he's gonna something will come of this. He's yes.

942
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: So they're also at this point they're working with Canadian authorities.

943
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: They're like, if he comes down, if he goes up

944
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: to you guys, please let us know. They contacted Mexico.

945
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: They look, if he goes he steals plans. So he

946
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 2: may come in on a stolen plane. He may not

947
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: just cross the border, he may fly over it. They're

948
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: like Okayota, we'll look out for it. So its essentially

949
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: at this point he's uh. He's also given officially the

950
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 2: new criminal moniker, the flying bank robber.

951
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:45,479
Speaker 4: The flying bank rubber.

952
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 2: Still tell you the flying bandit anyway. So with all

953
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 2: this newfound notoriety and is much cooler nickname, he knows

954
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 2: it's time to get out of the country. It'll only

955
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: be so long until somebody says something helpful to the FBI.

956
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure so.

957
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: And it's also getting harder and harder for him to

958
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: walk in and rob banks and then go and steal planes.

959
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 2: Both the airports and the banks are catching on to it.

960
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: Decides time to make a run for it. Where does

961
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: he make a run for it, Elizabeth, No, he's already

962
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 2: been there.

963
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 4: Mexico, Maico.

964
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 2: Time to steal a plane. So now he's smarter than

965
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,359
Speaker 2: this about than U just going and stealing a plane.

966
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:20,959
Speaker 2: He's done the bank jobs, and now he has cash.

967
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: He goes he buys a plane. Oh wow, less attention.

968
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: So he gives gets himself a plane for the low

969
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 2: low cost of twenty eight hundred dollars.

970
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 4: Wow.

971
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 2: And this point he's in Carrington, North Dakota, Okay. Because

972
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,279
Speaker 2: he's trying to lay low and by a plane where

973
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: nobody's going to talk. Okay, So it almost works except

974
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: for for the FBI catches win that Frank L. Sprinds

975
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 2: has been spotted in North Dakota. So at this point

976
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: he's posing as a highway engineer. That's what he's telling.

977
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 2: Everybody's his cover story. And because he open once again,

978
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 2: as he said in the fifties, freeway building is big business,

979
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 2: and it makes sense that he would be anywhere that

980
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: he is. He's like, Oh, I'm scouting and I need

981
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: to get a plane to look for places to build

982
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: the freeways and stuff. Everyone's like, all that's great, we're

983
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: gonna get a freeway. He's gonna go to Fayett Town

984
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 2: or whatever. Anyway. So he also looked like what people

985
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,279
Speaker 2: expected of an engineer. He's youthful yet balding, so you know.

986
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: And also he's like, you know, college student up front

987
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:12,959
Speaker 2: and college professor up.

988
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 3: Well, and they said that he's like the fancy lad.

989
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 3: So he's well dressed, and it's like he has like

990
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: the air the authenticity of it, and he also has

991
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: the credibility of like an office job, but he can

992
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: be out and about because like he said, you know, he's.

993
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: This totally and he's nutty as a fruit kick, so

994
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: he's always going to say whatever he has to do perfect,

995
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: so it really works. It's like, oh, what do you

996
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: think I am? Yeah, I'm a professor of theology. Yes,

997
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: so yeah, sorry. Anyway, so the highway engineer at this point,

998
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 2: the FBI, they don't know this, so they've put out

999
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 2: a fifteen state alert just hoping anybody will tell them anything,

1000
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: because they're like, he's in North Dakota, he could be

1001
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: anywhere then, So they get a call from Mississippi that

1002
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: they've spotted him. They going to call in Indiana they

1003
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: spotted him. They get a call from Texas that they

1004
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 2: spotted him. All of them have spotted a small red

1005
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: and white plane. It's a piper paste that he had

1006
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 2: purchased in North Dakota. Now, these are likely law enforcement

1007
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 2: and not normal citizens at this point because they're working

1008
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 2: off of like a very close circular. The FBI is

1009
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: putting it out saying look for a red and white plane.

1010
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: It was recently blah blah blah. So he makes his

1011
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: way all the way down to a small Texas town

1012
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: where he lands just long enough to gas up. Then

1013
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: he makes his run for the border. He next touches

1014
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 2: down in a little town called Tekalutla. Now that's just

1015
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: over the border in Mexico. He'd made it. He'd crotten

1016
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 2: into Mexico. He's almost good. He hit out there for

1017
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 2: a while. In fact, he hit out there long enough

1018
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: to make friends with a hotel owner of the nicest

1019
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: hotel in town. He offers to take that dude up

1020
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: for a flight, and his playing like, you say thank

1021
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: you for letting him stay in the nicest hotel in town.

1022
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: So he's up there in his pleasure flight with his

1023
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: new friend as his passenger, and they're actually, I say,

1024
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: up there. They haven't taken off yet. He's on the

1025
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 2: ground and he's about to go and like taxi on

1026
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,919
Speaker 2: down there like makeshift runway, and a cow walks onto

1027
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 2: the runway. He swerves to avoid the cow because there's

1028
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:56,879
Speaker 2: got a propeller in the front and he'll just turn

1029
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: that cow into like beef. And he also'll probably handed

1030
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: him damage. You know, you can damage the plane. So

1031
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 2: he swerves avoid the cow. And what does he do.

1032
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: He hits a palm tree, wrecks his plane. Oh no,

1033
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: so now he can't fly out of there, and he's like, oh,

1034
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 2: this is bad news, all right, this bad business in Mexico.

1035
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: Authorities are gonna come around asking questions. So at this

1036
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 2: point he's in a town out just outside of Veracruz

1037
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 2: if you know Mexico. He's about one hundred miles east

1038
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 2: of Mexico City. He's on the Gulf side.

1039
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:21,040
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1040
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 2: Now he knows he can't say there long. So what

1041
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 2: does he do? Frank El sprinds he keeps it moving.

1042
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: So he travels six hundred miles south and east down

1043
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: to the Yucatan Peninsula.

1044
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 4: Okay.

1045
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 2: There he goes to the capital city of Marida, and

1046
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: he rents a room at the best hotel in town.

1047
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: Because once again he's got money. He says, always where's

1048
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 2: the best?

1049
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, you're down Mexico way.

1050
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 2: Oh it up, exactly. He books a flight out to Cozamel.

1051
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,560
Speaker 2: Then this time he wouldn't fly the plane because it

1052
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: was a commercial flight. Right, this is a mistake. April six,

1053
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: he's in Cozamel town, small little spot home to about

1054
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: two thousand people, laying low things. He's cool, he's been

1055
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: hiding out. Once again, it's hold your rich highway engineered,

1056
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 2: not too many people asking questions, and true to his role,

1057
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 2: he's like, I want to go take in some sport fishing.

1058
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: They're like, okay. He rans a boat, takes a crew

1059
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: out to go deep sea fishing, living the good life.

1060
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: Once again. He's made it, Elizabeth. He's out there, look

1061
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: at the wide expanse of ocean. What is that a

1062
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: boat on the horizon. Oh no, well it was a

1063
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: boat on the horizon. It was actually two boats on

1064
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 2: the horizon, and it was the Mexican Security Police approaching.

1065
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 2: They get to the boat at six pm and they're like,

1066
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Speaker 2: are you Franco Springs. So they board the boat, they

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Speaker 2: arrest Franco Sprids and Mexican security apparatus. They contact the FBI.

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Speaker 2: The FBI is like, hold them, We'll be right down

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00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 2: the Jagger Hoover boys. They get down there. Remember at

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00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: this point they failed for almost a full year. Yeah,

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00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 2: it's mid April the fourteenth, to be exact, it's almost

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Speaker 2: one year to the day that he escaped April sixteenth.

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Speaker 4: So is this fifty nine fifty nine that we are now.

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00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: So we started fifty eight two days shy of a

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Speaker 2: year on the lamb. He'd escaped from the Ohio jail

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00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 2: April sixteenth, nineteen fifteen. In that time, in that one year,

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Speaker 2: he had learned to fly a plane. He'd seen Canada,

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00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,280
Speaker 2: he'd seen Mexico, he'd seen multiple US states. He'd stolen

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00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 2: at least three p lanes, twenty nine cars, used thirty

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Speaker 2: five fake identities, which just goes to show we all

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Speaker 2: have the same three hundred and sixty five days in

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Speaker 2: a year, which what.

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Speaker 4: You choose to do with them.

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Speaker 2: It's the Beyonce principle, it's what are you doing here

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00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 2: your three hundred and sixty five days. So by June nineteenth,

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Speaker 2: nineteen fifty nine, Frank el Spriends, he's back in America.

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Speaker 2: He's in custody. He's already had his day in court.

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Speaker 2: He's pleaded guilty on quote, three counts of auto theft,

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Speaker 2: one of jail break, and two of armed robbery. They

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Speaker 2: don't load all the charges against him. He gets sentenced

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Speaker 2: to a total of forty two to one hundred and

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Speaker 2: ten years in federal prison.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 2: Those terms were to run concurrently with his twenty year

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00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: state sentence in Ohio and the twenty five year term

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Speaker 2: he already had for bank robberies.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: So On June fifth, nineteen fifty nine, the Pittsburgh Sun Telegraph,

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Speaker 2: covering the mini trials of frank El's friends across all

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Speaker 2: of the various states, reported that quote Frank Eusepriends, who

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00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: says he wanted to join Fidel Castro's rebel forces when

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Speaker 2: he held up a bank here last March. Has been

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Speaker 2: sentenced to two more prison terms.

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Speaker 3: Wait, so when he held him up, he's like, hey,

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00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: by the way, like, so, what's a fun fact about you?

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Speaker 4: Guys? They all say something like, you know, I just

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00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: really got into knitting.

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Speaker 2: Was great.

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00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,280
Speaker 4: Guess what I want to go help Castro.

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Speaker 2: We have to remember this is like there's probably like

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Speaker 2: June June, nineteen fifty nine, and Fidel is all the top. Sure,

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Speaker 2: he's the coolest revolutionary. This is before he's gone commune.

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Speaker 2: So America is in love with him.

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Speaker 4: Right in the midst of a bank robbery. How does

1115
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: he share just one cool it on a T shirt?

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00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: No, No, this is just one cool guy saying I saw

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00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: that other other cool guy's work and like I was

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00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 2: headed his way because we were to get our powers together.

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Speaker 4: Who did he tell to some reporter or the cops.

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Speaker 2: Either way, I think it's I think it's BS, but

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Speaker 2: I think he also is just like you know.

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00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 4: But there's a truth sun Like he said it in

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Speaker 4: the middle of a robbery.

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Speaker 2: Well, there's some truth. When he was first in Mexico,

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Speaker 2: he told the guys in the hotel that he was

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Speaker 2: flying to Cuba. So he his original plan was to

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Speaker 2: fly to Cuba. Who was he going to go join

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Speaker 2: the revolution? I don't know about that. I think he

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Speaker 2: was going to go hide out in Fidel's cast in

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Speaker 2: Fidel's Cuba.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, could be anyway. Whatever, it was.

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Speaker 2: Indeed true, he'd been ready to go. I said, go

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Speaker 2: fly to Cuba. Whatever. He refueled his red white and piper,

1134
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: red white piper, and he did not. You know, if

1135
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 2: weren't for that cow, he would have been in Cuba.

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00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 2: So really it was that cow that ended his crime spree.

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00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 2: He was not taken down by the FBI. He was

1138
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Speaker 2: brought low by a Mexican cow, and like so many others,

1139
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: you know, he was glad it was all over when

1140
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: he was caught and he could now finally sleep peacefully.

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00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: So we hear this over and over again. Yes, as

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00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 2: Frank's friends said it once he was arrested. Quote. Ever

1143
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: since I made the list, I felt like I was

1144
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: walking down a glass sidewalk that might break it any minute.

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00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: I'm glad it's over. Frank. I think you need to

1146
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: work on your analogies. If you were walking on a

1147
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,160
Speaker 2: glass sidewalk and it broke, you'd fall what three four inches?

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00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: If it's over the sky.

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00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: That's a skywalk. Is it skyway? I don't know, but

1150
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: it's not a side. If I was walking on a

1151
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 2: glass sidewalk, I would not worry about a dark bridge.

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00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 3: Well, Ankles, sure, I'm you a glass sidewalk, Yeah, sure, okay, and.

1153
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:55,760
Speaker 4: The ankle injury magnet.

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00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: Before we say good bye to frank Cal's friends, can

1155
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 2: I just say that his ex wife was a stone

1156
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 2: cold piece of work. When he was finally caught, the

1157
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 2: press caught up to her for a comment, and she

1158
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: was only too happy to oblige them. She gave the

1159
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: news reporters like a quote and a half and now

1160
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: let me just set the scene. Quote. The family of

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00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: acron bank robber Frankel Sprinds sat waiting for each news

1162
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 2: broadcast through a long Tuesday evening, huddled around the television

1163
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:21,919
Speaker 2: set where the ex wife, children, and mother in law

1164
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: of the man whose story of crime and escape made

1165
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: him one of the FBI's most wanted criminals. Now the

1166
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,959
Speaker 2: face of the captured fugitive, it flashes on the TV

1167
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: news before these reporters, and then when we were writing

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00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: about it, the kids are thankfully out of the room

1169
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: when this happens. The reporters dutifully note, because there is

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00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: David Sprands five and his sister Debbie four, or, as

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00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: a paper calls, are pretty little Debbie who played happily

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00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,240
Speaker 2: with her pet dog Rusty.

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00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 4: Wait those are his kids, Yeah, he's got kids so

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00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 4: and a family pet.

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00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yes, So. After the reporter noted that the kids

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00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 2: missed the image of their daddy's capture in Mexico, missus

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00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 2: Alberta May Sprinds, quote attractive twenty six year old ex

1178
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: wife of the fugitive, said that the last time it

1179
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 2: appeared on the screen, the boy recognized his daddy. Thank god,

1180
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: Debbie has already forgotten him, said Missus Sprinds. The brunette

1181
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 2: sacclad ex wife. Oh yeah, now, don't get it wrong, Elizabeth.

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00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 2: She argued that she was heartless as she's about to

1183
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: sound now, missus Sprind said quote, I'm happy Frank wasn't

1184
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 2: killed or didn't kill anybody when he was captured, But

1185
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 2: it would have been easier in years to come to

1186
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 2: tell the children their father is dead. Now I will

1187
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 2: just have to wait until they are grown up enough

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00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: to explain everything, which has been so much easier if

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00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: he was dead, Elizabeth, But that was not all the

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00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 2: young mother had plans to protect her kids. She go

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00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: back to her maiden name. I am changing our name

1192
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 2: to Hall. I've been correcting the children when they say spriends,

1193
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,160
Speaker 2: and they'll soon forget I hope. I'm glad it happened

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00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 2: before David starts school in the fall. This is the

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00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 2: end of that chapter. Wow. She also wondered if the

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00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 2: FBI guys had informed her ex husband that she was

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00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: divorcing him. As for her dating future, in case you

1198
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 2: were wondering about that, the Exmasi's friends said, one thing

1199
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 2: is certain. I'm not even thinking about another man or

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00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 2: another marriage at this point. I haven't even met another

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00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 2: man i'd want to marry, though I've been on a

1202
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 2: few dates. So she's looking fun and flirty, single, still

1203
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 2: under thirty. I don't want to tell you what this anyway.

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00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 2: You see that hope springs eternal always and for my

1205
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 2: man frank Al's friends, he hopes eternally. But eventually he

1206
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: got caught and then he was staying in bars and

1207
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: he would have a terrible future that I don't even

1208
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: want to get into. And that's when he's stopp being

1209
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 2: my man. But until that point, I'm with this cat.

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00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 2: When he comes back out of prison, things I don't

1211
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 2: want to know. He goes let's just say he goes

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00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 2: back to prison again.

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00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 3: Okay, So we're just talking about the ridiculousness up until.

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00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: I like him when he's young man, I like anyway.

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00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 4: So it's a ridiculous takeaway here, Elizabeth.

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00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: My takeaway is that you should be really wary of

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00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 3: people who are desperate to know how to fly.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, shots fired again.

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00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 3: So what's your ridiculous takeaway? Thanks for asking. I have

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00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: to race and get it in there.

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00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: Ridiculous takeaway is how hard is it to get a

1222
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: pilot's license? Anyway? As always prided this online Ridiculous Crime

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