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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the program. Mark Vandermier and John

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Speaker 1: Harris with you as we continue our evening shows from

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Speaker 1: the Greenbrier in West Virginia. And you're sick of hearing

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Speaker 1: about this resort and that we're having a good time

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Speaker 1: watching the Texans practice. Listen, this is work, okay, watching

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Speaker 1: the Texans practice get ready for the season. I don't

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Speaker 1: work for a living. I do what I love, so

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Speaker 1: I'm lucky to do that. And we are at Slam

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Speaker 1: and Sammy's Sam Sneed's Sports Bar because he was the

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Speaker 1: pro here a thousand years ago and it's a beautiful

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Speaker 1: place and we've told you that plenty. So let's get

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Speaker 1: down and dirty into the football business, Johnny. But this

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Speaker 1: is our last show from Slam and Sammy's. Tomorrow, best

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Speaker 1: of camp heading into preseason Game one, and I want

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Speaker 1: to start here. It's not like this is the end

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Speaker 1: of training camp once you hit the preseason games, because

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Speaker 1: they'll be back at it next week. Open practice is

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Speaker 1: there's a practice with the Carolina Panthers on Thursday. That's

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Speaker 1: the last practice with all the fans there. There's media

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Speaker 1: at practice, so you're not really out of camp fully yet.

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Speaker 1: But it kind of feels like the end of camp.

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Speaker 1: This is definitely stage one. This is if this were

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Speaker 1: a Broadway play. This is act one. Act two is

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Speaker 1: coming up. It's loaded, but Act one is really important.

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Speaker 1: And it's been over two weeks because they started on

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Speaker 1: July twenty third, Wednesday. So here we are after Thursday practice.

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Speaker 1: They won't have a practice tomorrow. They'll do something, but

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Speaker 1: they'll get on the plane and go to Minnesota for

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Speaker 1: pre season outing number one. But I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: least a big part of it. That's that's kind of

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Speaker 1: the way I felt about this.

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Speaker 2: And obviously you got joint practices, so you'll ramp it

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Speaker 2: up for your joint practices against the Panthers and then

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Speaker 2: the Lions. But from now until September seventh, yes of

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Speaker 2: the day, so we're a month away.

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Speaker 1: We're a month away. A month away. Today we will

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Speaker 1: be out in la taking on the La Rams.

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Speaker 2: Potentially Matt Stafford apparently he's gonna be back at practice.

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Speaker 2: I have a hard time seeing how effective you can

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Speaker 2: be very careful about it.

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Speaker 1: That uh.

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Speaker 2: Sean McVeigh did did They actually said it at his

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Speaker 2: Prescotton Okay, so we'll see. He said he's gonna practice

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Speaker 2: next week, so okay, rock on. But I just I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you it is debilitating. And he was talking

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Speaker 2: McVeigh was about he was taking Stafford was taking epidural shots. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're taking ap duraal shots. It gives you maybe two

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Speaker 2: to three hours of relief.

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Speaker 1: Who reported that McVeigh. I don't know, something's up. This

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Speaker 1: is strange, so we'll get right. We'll see.

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Speaker 2: But either way, Uh yeah, I felt like it was

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Speaker 2: a big injury that happened today in camp.

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Speaker 1: That was all. I mean, everybody saw, everybody saw the reports.

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Speaker 2: I mean everywhere every Texas media remember that was there

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Speaker 2: was tweeting about it and posting about it. And it's

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Speaker 2: unfortunate about C. J. Gardner Johnson and we just we

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Speaker 2: with that now. As you said, we were walking over here,

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Speaker 2: You're like, hey, this didn't happen in the practice with

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Speaker 2: ten days before we play or whatever, you know, two

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Speaker 1: Play, five hard contact meetings, three games, two joint practices.

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, to put the injuries at that position are piling up.

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Speaker 2: You were going into camp already with Jimmy, were in

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Speaker 2: Then in Houston, Jalen Reid got hurt and you don't

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Speaker 2: So you went in to practice with six guys you

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Speaker 2: But it gives as I said in a text as

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Speaker 2: Hey let's let let's let Nick cook. What can he find? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you never know. He's been able to find player along

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Speaker 1: The most of it.

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Speaker 2: So the situation as it sits now is he's kind

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Speaker 1: Now you can justin Simmons and Marcus Williams. There are

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Speaker 2: Made a lot of money last year at safety. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if that's the answer, but I also know

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Speaker 2: it was announced was Jalen Mills. Now, Mills played with

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Speaker 2: There was a guy they worked out last week when

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Speaker 2: right word. He's a highly emotional player. He gets after

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Speaker 2: if they went back to Jalen Mills. Now, you don't

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Speaker 2: we'll see what ends up happening.

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Speaker 1: We was with the Giants and the Jets last year,

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Speaker 1: and you're right, well, he wasn't drafted by the Patriots Eagles,

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Speaker 1: twenty three. And look, everybody knows everybody, and he's thirty

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Speaker 1: one years old from De Soto, and you never know

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Speaker 1: they worked him out. You say, you never know, so

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Speaker 1: very well that going into this game, just this game,

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Speaker 1: it's a preseason game. Guy's got to play a lot

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they get much action at all,

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Speaker 1: Tamiko said, we will hold out some guys. That could

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Speaker 1: mean anything. You and I are going to know more

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Speaker 1: tomorrow after our production meeting. But that stuff is really

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Speaker 1: once we kick off three o'clock in Minnesota. So this

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Speaker 1: to me is it's kind of a survival game, right.

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Speaker 1: You want to see how the team looks, but you

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Speaker 1: don't want to risk too many people today they did

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Speaker 1: and hey, you guys, what are you talking about. This

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Speaker 1: is our chance to see the team. I get it,

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Speaker 1: I understand it. And this is the problem with preseason games.

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Speaker 1: The coaches don't want to put everybody out there for risk.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to take the quarterback to the ground

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Speaker 1: because in practice, joint practice, you have control of those things.

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Speaker 1: In the preseason games you don't. Somebody wants to make

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Speaker 1: a name for themselves. Here you go, CJ. Stroud, Your

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Speaker 1: risk injury, your risk injury everywhere up and down the roster.

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Speaker 1: But today they ran a simulated game, so they were

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Speaker 1: going out it pretty hard, and they were doing field

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Speaker 1: in the rhythm of a game. I remember during the

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Speaker 1: preseason games. He did it twice in the bowl in

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Speaker 1: the stadium to get the guys used to football. All right,

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Speaker 1: that's what the preseason games are good for, just getting

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Speaker 1: They did their full pregame warm up today as if

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Speaker 1: they were playing an actual game, and it was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: So they did this on a Thursday knowing they're playing Saturday.

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Speaker 1: To me, that says they're holding out a lot of guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. We'll see now next week at home

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Speaker 1: against the Carolina Panthers, I doubt they hold out as many,

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Speaker 1: but they do have joint practices, so it's anybody's guests.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and today CJ and Davis took all the reps. Now,

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Speaker 2: I do think that Davis will play, and but I

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Speaker 2: don't think. I don't think CJ will play. And again,

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Speaker 2: I understand it gets frustrated the preseason. You're like, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I want to hear these guys that you've been talking about.

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Speaker 1: Just be patient. You'll eventually get to see him.

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Speaker 2: Because I do think Demico will play everybody throughout training

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Speaker 2: camp that's healthy. I don't think Joe Mixon is going

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Speaker 2: to see preseason playing time, even if he were healthy

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Speaker 2: at this point, because of what he's he's been through,

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Speaker 2: see Damian Pierce next week. Maybe we'll see Christian Harris

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Speaker 2: next week. Either one of those guys participated practice today,

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Speaker 2: so it is a slow ramp up for them to

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Speaker 2: get them ready, but hopefully they can be ready by

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Speaker 2: the Panthers joint practice.

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Speaker 1: They could play in the game against the Panthers in

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Speaker 1: the preseason.

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Speaker 2: But the purpose of preseason obviously is to get you

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Speaker 2: you obviously want to be smart about it. You want

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Speaker 2: And it's unfortunate that today in a scribbage situation you

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Speaker 2: lose you know, CJ. Gardner Johnson for the rest of practice.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what it means. It was just one of

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Speaker 2: those things. It was one of the freaky thing.

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Speaker 1: It could have happened in a nontack practice. It wasn't

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Speaker 1: like no contact. There was just a little interaction with

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Speaker 1: John Metro who caught a ball from c. J. Stroud

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Speaker 1: and it was nothing dirty or strange. It just happened.

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Speaker 1: So these things do happen. It's football, it's every sport,

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Speaker 1: and it just sucks because you wanted to see what

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Speaker 1: he could do for this football team, and he looked

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Speaker 2: But since they've put Titus back out to right tackle,

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Speaker 2: I saying that. Look, he's got time, Like they're not

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Speaker 2: There's fifty one, it's fifty five. They're gonna get and

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Speaker 2: they seem me working a lot better together. They're getting

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Speaker 1: What a tremendous plus that.

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Speaker 1: Does he need to play Saturday, regardless of everything else, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think even the offensive line that played, even with

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Speaker 2: Slide, slide, and they've been working on that. And you

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Speaker 1: Hey, today is play action day, Today is deep shot day.

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Speaker 2: then today he has. He has one of the few touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: He had a deep over out on a bootleg, which

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Speaker 1: point route was fantastic.

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Speaker 2: He ran the what I call the Edelman, which is

431
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Speaker 2: one of the great routes I think all time where

432
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Speaker 2: ed Edelman mastered.

433
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Speaker 1: He ran in Super Bowl against the Seahawks.

434
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Speaker 2: He'd run be outside, he'd run hard inside, like he's

435
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Speaker 2: across the field. He'd stop on a dime and then

436
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 2: break right back out. And the dB is the DB's

437
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,919
Speaker 2: like toast because the dB thinks, oh he's going across,

438
00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 2: I'm man, and man, I gotta go with him. So

439
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 2: you start sprinting that way. All of a sudden, Edelman stopped.

440
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Speaker 2: He ran it route like a master. Hutch ran that

441
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Speaker 2: today and got wide open for a two point play.

442
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Speaker 2: And I just remember thinking, as I was writing my book,

443
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Speaker 2: I'm such an idiot. This guy's got to make the

444
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Speaker 2: fifty three. He's got to. He absolutely has to. He

445
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Speaker 2: makes too many plays. He's too good on special teams.

446
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Speaker 2: He might be the number five wide receiver, and yet

447
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Speaker 2: they're gonna find a way to get him involved in

448
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Speaker 2: some way, shape or form.

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure he's not higher than number five.

450
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Speaker 1: Because the way he played today, Johnny, that was almost

451
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Speaker 1: a revelation to me. We've seen him make plays before,

452
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Speaker 1: but Hutchinson was reliable. Yep, he looked really productive out there,

453
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Speaker 1: got himself open. I'm looking at today. You know, it's

454
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Speaker 1: funny we're talking about that yesterday, like, all right, what's

455
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Speaker 1: his role? He's gonna make it right? Yeah, And I've

456
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Speaker 1: emerged from that twenty four hours later, I'm saying, I

457
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Speaker 1: don't even want to see him play on Saturday. Bubble

458
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Speaker 1: wrap him. Of course. Now you're gonna have to see

459
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Speaker 1: him play on Saturday. They got to roll somebody out

460
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Speaker 1: there because they got Johnny Johnson out, Jared Wayne out,

461
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Speaker 1: because those guys got waved injured. They brought and cephas.

462
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Speaker 1: I don't know how much he's gonna be able to do.

463
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Speaker 1: He'll be able to get out there and do something,

464
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Speaker 1: but this is not the same offense he ran when

465
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Speaker 1: he was here last time. So are we looking at

466
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Speaker 1: some sexcents out there in the driving ring? I think

467
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Speaker 1: that's Will Anderson Junior. You got to see this swing

468
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Speaker 1: man we're watching. I think that's Will from a DiscId.

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Speaker 1: These guys are just having I think Will is on

470
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Speaker 1: the left side hitting some balls. They're just hitting some

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Speaker 1: balls on the end. You know what, they're natural athletes.

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Speaker 1: Give him like three swings and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the thing's gonna go a mile.

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Speaker 2: Well, CJ has that. We watch him during pregame. CJ

475
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Speaker 2: does that warm up with that ball thing. So he's

476
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Speaker 2: taken like golf swings open hips. I saw Slovas using

477
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Speaker 2: it too, and I watch watch Will swing. You could this.

478
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Speaker 2: This is the swing of a guy that just is

479
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Speaker 2: a terror on a days. I mean, he gets all

480
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Speaker 2: of it.

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Speaker 1: I think they played in the Texans Charity Golf Classic.

482
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Speaker 1: That one did go too far. I'm not gonna expose.

483
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Speaker 1: We saw fair Baron finishing up yesterday his round knocking

484
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Speaker 1: in this I don't know six seven foot putt to

485
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Speaker 1: get a par when he went up and down on

486
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Speaker 1: this very tough eighteenth whole par three. And Christian Kirk

487
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Speaker 1: was playing so later in the afternoon, you know they're

488
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Speaker 1: off time. They can get out here, and that like

489
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Speaker 1: sticks a little bit. When when we were.

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Speaker 2: Recording yesterday, we're slamming Sammy's we look over and we

491
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Speaker 2: hear a voice. We're like, oh, look over, and Will's

492
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Speaker 2: just sitting at the bar house chilling, having a water,

493
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Speaker 2: and bartender was chopping it up with him for a

494
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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 1: So oh, Johnny, that bartender though, Okay, he's not here today,

496
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Speaker 1: so I can say this, could say this, there was

497
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Speaker 1: a bartender here yesterday. Is basically doing a podcast with

498
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Speaker 1: Will Anderson. Poor Will's just trying to have a moment

499
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Speaker 1: of solitude. Quiet. He's not even drinking alcohol. He's like

500
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Speaker 1: having a water, just a TV, you know, just a

501
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: chill out right, just to just to chill out. And

502
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Speaker 1: the guy is just talking his ears. He's talking about

503
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Speaker 1: Houston sports too. Yeah, and it's like, come on, just stop.

504
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Speaker 1: And the guy's a mile a minute. You know. In fact,

505
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Speaker 1: we should probably hire this guy. Yeah, I mean he's

506
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Speaker 1: an inning. He's definitely you can tell. Will's like, yeah,

507
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Speaker 1: as opposed to our our guy here, Deck from Indonesia,

508
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: who gets us great donold commers, that's perfect. Yeah, he

509
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Speaker 1: just gets us, gets us stealthy. Yeah, you know, as

510
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Speaker 1: we're talking, he gets us arm palm, it gets her

511
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Speaker 1: mind's right for this program, that's what we need. We

512
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Speaker 1: need this out all right. So coming up on the program,

513
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Speaker 1: we gave you what happened on the scrimmage today, simulated game,

514
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Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. Team will travel to

515
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Speaker 1: Minnesota tomorrow and we expect Davis Mills to play back

516
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Speaker 1: at the Greenbrier. Texans leaving tomorrow to Minnesota for the

517
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Speaker 1: preseason premiere Saturday at three. It'll be live right here,

518
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Speaker 1: and one of those guys playing likely to be Davis Mills.

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Speaker 1: Of course, this is his the backup quarterback. You want

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Speaker 1: him to be good. You don't want to see him

521
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Speaker 1: in the regular season, but you're going to see him

522
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Speaker 1: this month. Mills entering year five. John Harris catches up

523
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Speaker 1: with Davis Mills. All right, Davis Mills with me.

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Speaker 2: I told Davis a few weeks ago, I thought, this

525
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Speaker 2: is the best I've seen him throw the ball. You

526
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Speaker 2: seem so very comfortable throwing the ball at Davis.

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Speaker 1: Is that kind of the way you've seen training camp

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Speaker 1: for you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's been fun to get back going. We

530
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Speaker 3: are a really talented team, a lot of guys working

531
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Speaker 3: really hard to earn their spots and keep getting better

532
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 3: and better each day. Great new offensive coordinator and some

533
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Speaker 3: ads to the QB room, and we're just kind of

534
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Speaker 3: pushing every day to get better. And put this team

535
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Speaker 3: together and go out there and have a good game

536
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Speaker 3: on Saturday and going forward.

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Speaker 1: How's it been learning this offense?

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Speaker 2: Are there pieces of this that you're familiar with at

539
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Speaker 2: any point that's made it kind of.

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Speaker 1: A smooter transition. How's that kind of growing in the

541
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Speaker 1: offense been for you?

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Speaker 4: It's been great.

543
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Speaker 3: I mean been in the league going into five years now,

544
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Speaker 3: and this is my fourth different offense, so it's actually

545
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Speaker 3: been cool. I have some similarities from kind of all

546
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Speaker 3: the offenses I've been in previously, and it's kind of

547
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Speaker 3: a little bit of the best of all of those

548
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Speaker 3: coming together into this one. And it's been a lot

549
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Speaker 3: of fun, uh, talking through a lot of the plays

550
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Speaker 3: and installing concepts and just going back and we wouldn't

551
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Speaker 3: say reminiscing, but just pulling from what I've done in

552
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Speaker 3: the past and thinking of successful things and how we're

553
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Speaker 3: putting it in to utilize our playmakers on the edge,

554
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Speaker 3: and use our line up front and the run scheme

555
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Speaker 3: and our backs strengths. And it's been really fun just

556
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Speaker 3: seeing how it's all come together.

557
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Speaker 2: Got a few new pieces, especially at wide receive.

558
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Speaker 1: What's that been like?

559
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Speaker 2: Kind of growing the communication with Jalen Nole, Jaden Higgins,

560
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Speaker 2: Justin Watson, kind of the new guys of the group.

561
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Speaker 1: What's that been like, kind of growing with them as well.

562
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Speaker 4: It's been great.

563
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Speaker 3: Started off back in OTAs and building going into training camp,

564
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Speaker 3: kind of starting to hit our stride. I think we

565
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Speaker 3: got to keep growing and keep getting better each day

566
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Speaker 3: because it's not close to a final product, but I mean,

567
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Speaker 3: that's what's exciting about it. We have a ton of

568
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 3: flashes in great plays now, and you only know that

569
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Speaker 3: we can keep getting better and better. And I think

570
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Speaker 3: that's one of the strengths of this this offensive scheme

571
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Speaker 3: is it gives guys a lot of freedom to beat

572
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Speaker 3: playmakers and bring out their natural ability and instincts to

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Speaker 3: get open and went on the edge.

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Speaker 1: So I see you wearing long sleeves.

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Speaker 2: No, sometimes you might do at home, but definitely out

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Speaker 2: here at the Greenbrier, you've worn the long sleeves. How's

577
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Speaker 2: it been being up here? Having this cool weather kind

578
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Speaker 2: of bring you back to college a little bit where

579
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Speaker 2: it's a little bit cooler than the ninety five degrees

580
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Speaker 2: plus we've been seeing your five years in Houston.

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Speaker 3: It does the weather up here in West Virginia is

582
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Speaker 3: a little bit cooler than Houston is currently. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm wearing long street long sleeves. I used to have

584
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Speaker 3: to do this in college. I would wear two or

585
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Speaker 3: three undershirts when I practice to try to sweat because

586
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Speaker 3: the dry air when it was sixty five and sunny

587
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Speaker 3: every day, you're not really getting any moisture in the

588
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Speaker 3: air to kind of the sweat.

589
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Speaker 4: So that's been great out here.

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Speaker 3: We're enjoying it.

591
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Speaker 4: It's beautiful.

592
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Speaker 3: You see the mountains in the background of the practice

593
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Speaker 3: field and can't really imagine being on another or a

594
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Speaker 3: better spot to be out here and go through camp

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Speaker 3: with the.

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Speaker 2: Team, game day Saturday vikings seeing a different color jersey.

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Speaker 2: I know for you it's a little different. I mean

598
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Speaker 2: you're facing a different color jersey.

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Speaker 1: But for the rest of the guys, everybody being able

600
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Speaker 1: to hit somebody else.

601
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Speaker 2: You gonna throw against a different defense.

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Speaker 1: What Saturday gonna be like for you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I think

604
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Speaker 3: it's gonna be exciting for me. I mean, obviously, every

605
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: time you step on a football field and competition it's exciting,

606
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 3: So it'll be a lot of fun to do that.

607
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 3: Show what I can do as a playmaker, but then

608
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Speaker 3: also try to elevate all the guys around me and

609
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 3: really let the all the work that's gone in up

610
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: to this point in camp kind of display itself out

611
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Speaker 3: on the field.

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Speaker 1: Davis, I appreciate it. Best of luck, Matt, thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you. There's Johnny with Davis Mills. Now. I had

614
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Speaker 1: a chance to visit with Luke Leche, who was drafted

615
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Speaker 1: late rounds by this team this offseason and his dad,

616
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Speaker 1: Jim Leche, NFL legend. We had him on the show

617
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Speaker 1: earlier this week, three time pro bowler, former Washington player,

618
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Speaker 1: San Diego Raiders, et cetera. Anyway, I talked to Luke

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Speaker 1: about that and about how he's doing in this camp.

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Speaker 1: All right, Luke, it's been a while since we talked.

621
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Speaker 1: How's it going for you?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a great camp so far. A lot

624
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Speaker 5: of great uh, you know, new things to learn and

625
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Speaker 5: everything like that. There's obviously we're in a new place

626
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Speaker 5: right now, so it's just adapting and trying to make

627
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Speaker 5: the most of it.

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Speaker 1: You guys have been in pads a lot. Talk about

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Speaker 1: the blocking part of what you do. How tough is

630
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Speaker 1: that against members of this defense.

631
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we've got a great defense, so you know,

632
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 5: all around a great defense, so it's tough to get

633
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 5: in there and block. So but you know, I feel

634
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Speaker 5: like I've been coming along with that and improving every

635
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 5: single day. So that's that's the biggest thing, I know.

636
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 5: But you know, the defensive coach and all their staff,

637
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 5: they do a really great job of, you know, getting

638
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Speaker 5: them in the right position to.

639
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Speaker 1: Succeed over two weeks into camp and all the off

640
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Speaker 1: season practices and whatever you've done on your own. How

641
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: about learning the offense? How's that going for you?

642
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 1: You know.

644
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 5: Obviously Dalton is a really great help, and all the

645
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Speaker 5: other tight ends in the room. Whenever we have questions,

646
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 5: we can ask them and then coach Morland does a

647
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 5: really great job of coaching that for us.

648
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 4: So it's it's been really uh you know, kind.

649
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 5: Of seamless, uh with with all of them, and you know,

650
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 5: it's just it's just a lot of studying on my

651
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 5: own just to make sure that I'm really getting it

652
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 5: down and uh, just making sure that I'm good to go.

653
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: How's it been for you guys at the Green Brier

654
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 1: in the off hours. I know you have meetings and everything,

655
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: but what about whatever else you're able to do here?

656
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know it's great. I mean, obviously the biggest

657
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 5: difference is the weather. Uh you know, to be out

658
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 5: here and not not sweat every single time you walk

659
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 5: outside as a big deal. But you know, obviously the

660
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 5: Green Brier is a great resort, so uh, just whether

661
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 5: you're walking around the resort itself going I did a

662
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 5: bunker tour the first off day we had here, so

663
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 5: to learn about a little bit of history and uh

664
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 5: some some stuff like that.

665
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 4: It was really cool. So, uh, it's it's really cool

666
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 4: to be here, though.

667
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: What about having your family here, Luke, how was that? Yeah?

668
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 5: It was it was really special, very very grateful that

669
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 5: they could make the trip. It's about four and a

670
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 5: half hour drive from Columbus, so they they came over

671
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 5: and got to watch some practices, so it was cool

672
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 5: to be able to see them after and you know,

673
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 5: spend a little time with them during the downtime.

674
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: So your dad, a buck guye legend wearing the Iowa

675
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: football gear here, that's got to go over tough in Columbus.

676
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I might, but you know what he he he

677
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: loves the hot guys. You know, obviously he supports me

678
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 5: a lot, so uh, it's cool that, you know, they

679
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 5: still love the hot guy so much. They've they've been

680
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 5: talking about and I don't Ohio State bye week when

681
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 5: he's not working, about going to an Iowa game. So

682
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 5: you know, we'll see if they get to do that

683
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: or not. But yeah, it's awesome.

684
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: So it was your last game. He goes to the

685
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: game and Ryan Day provides him a private plane to

686
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: get back for his Buck Guy radio broadcast. That was

687
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: strong stuff.

688
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was that was awesome.

689
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 5: It was a couple of days before I found out

690
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 5: that was happening, and you know, I was really grateful

691
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: that he was able to go do that because I

692
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 5: know how much he loves to call the games with

693
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 5: you know, his his his uh uh coworker, Paul Keels.

694
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 5: So it was it was really special that Ryan Day

695
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 5: offered that, and you know, I was just grateful that

696
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 5: he got to come to my game and then also

697
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 5: get to go call that one.

698
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: What about you playing in your first NFL game of

699
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 1: any kind on Saturday? How excited are you for that?

700
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 5: I'm really excited, Uh, you know, just to to go

701
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 5: against a different set of people, a different set of defense,

702
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 5: and it'll be it'll be a lot of fun just

703
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 5: to go out there, play in a new stadium and

704
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 5: you know, just go and compete.

705
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: Still big ten country too, That's it.

706
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, right there in the Midwest.

707
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: It's all right. Cool. Thanks a lot, Luke, Thank you.

708
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: You'll see Luke Leche play plenty on Saturday at three

709
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: against the Vikings. Now, Steven Ruiz, he's from the Ringer

710
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: and he did some extensive research on your Texans the

711
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 1: last couple of days I visited with him. All right,

712
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 1: So Steven, tell me you came to look at c

713
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 1: J Stroud, among other things. What are your impressions of CJ? Overall?

714
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 6: I just think, just reading the stuff from before I

715
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 6: got here, that he seems to be taking more command

716
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 6: of the offense before the snap. I know that's been

717
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 6: a talking point all the off season. And I think

718
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 6: he as a quarterback is his third year. I think

719
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 6: he's ready for that, and I think he's ready for

720
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 6: that step, and I think it's going to allow him

721
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 6: to kind of express himself more than maybe he was

722
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 6: able to. And then Kyle Shanahan's style offense, so I'm

723
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 6: really excited to see how that helps his game and

724
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 6: how that boosts his performance next year.

725
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: Who else are you looking at around the AFC who's

726
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: going to have a year where they rise up a level.

727
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: Perhaps we could talk about some of the other guys,

728
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: but is there anybody else you have your eye on.

729
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 4: I'll just stay in division. I'll go with Jacksonville.

730
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 6: I'm really interested to see how Liam Cohen's staff kind

731
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 6: of helps Trevor Lawrence out.

732
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 4: I don't think he's ever been in an offense that.

733
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 6: Has made things easier for him. It's going to depend

734
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 6: on how good the offensive line is. The Bucks had

735
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 6: a good offensive line where Cohen was last year. But

736
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 6: I think getting that style of offense and putting him

737
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 6: in an offense where you take a little off his

738
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 6: plate mentally, I think he's going to bring the best

739
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 6: out of him because we know he's a physical talent.

740
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 6: We know he could throw the football well, it's just

741
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 6: about making the right decision over and over and over again.

742
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: Where were you at with him when he was drafted

743
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: and early in his career. I know it's only year

744
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: five now, but versus now.

745
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was very high on him. I was one

746
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 6: of the people thrown around the generational.

747
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 4: Tag like you weren't alone. No, yeah, I wasn't alone.

748
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 6: I think Jacksonville thought so too, and I think while

749
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 6: he hasn't lived up to that, I think we have

750
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 6: to separate generational prospects and put the emphasis on the

751
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 6: word prospect.

752
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 4: And generational player.

753
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 6: I think he qualified as a generational prospect, but we

754
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 6: haven't seen him become that generational player yet. But I

755
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 6: think when you watch him, like whenever I get down

756
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 6: on him, I'm like, well, maybe he's not as good

757
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 6: as I think he is. I turn on the film

758
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 6: and an hour later, I'm like, all right, I'm back

759
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 6: to where I was day one.

760
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I like that generational prospect. I'm gonna use that. Okay, Steven,

761
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: what about cam Ward? What are your thoughts on how

762
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: he might be?

763
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 6: I'm excited for him just because I was a huge

764
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 6: fan of his game. I didn't I don't watch a

765
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 6: lot of college football during the season because I'm covering

766
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 6: the NFL, But turning on his film, it was I

767
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 6: don't know if I've had more fun watching a quarterback

768
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 6: prospect before the draft, and I did with his film.

769
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 6: And I'm not saying that's a good like. That's not

770
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 6: always a good thing, like sometimes you're thrown across your

771
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 6: body and it gets picked off. But I think if

772
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,479
Speaker 6: he can find that mill ground, because he definitely puts

773
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 6: some plays on tape where he looked like the cerebral quarterback,

774
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,319
Speaker 6: the guy who doesn't make mistakes and can go, you know,

775
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 6: go on a ten play drive. If you can find

776
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 6: the middle ground between that and the playmaking stuff, I

777
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 6: think he can. He can be a top ten starter someday.

778
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are your thoughts on Anthony Richardson versus Daniel Johnson.

779
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 6: I'm still one of those guys that's not ready to

780
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 6: sell my stocking. Anthony Richardson.

781
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 4: I think he's He's two years.

782
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 6: Younger than BONNICKX, who just had his rookie year, and

783
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 6: I think there are very clear areas of hef informed

784
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 6: at the guy you can just go see to pass

785
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 6: under five yards. I think that opens up a lot

786
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 6: of his game. But it sounds like from what I've heard,

787
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 6: that he's doing the right things now. Maybe he's taking

788
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 6: his job more seriously.

789
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 4: He's acting like.

790
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 6: Him pro and it sounds like he's separating himself from

791
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 6: Daniel Jones. I was kind of confused by the Daniel

792
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 6: Jones scien. It's a lot of money to, you know,

793
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 6: kind of light a fire under your young quarterback. But

794
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 6: it seems to be working, so maybe it's money well spent.

795
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 6: But I'm really exciting to see him, excited to see

796
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 6: him in the preseason because I think with where he's at,

797
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 6: it's gonna be very easy to see to check the boxes,

798
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 6: you know, is he completing passes, is he taking his

799
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 6: check down?

800
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: Is he not taking bad sacks?

801
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 6: Is he's not taking big hits in the pocket or

802
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 6: outside of the pocket. So I think it's gonna be

803
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 6: an informative preseason for Anthony Richards and I think we're

804
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 6: gonna know very early on if he's gonna be the

805
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 6: starter for the full season.

806
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: Steven, give me a quarterback or two in the league

807
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: that does not get the respect they deserve. They're a

808
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: lot better than people think. The numbers might not show it,

809
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 1: or maybe they do. What do you think I'll go

810
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: with Gino smith Man.

811
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 6: I've always been a Gino smith fan, Even before his

812
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 6: breakout with Seattle. I thought he got a raw deal

813
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 6: in New York. But just I honestly think he's a

814
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,239
Speaker 6: glimpse into CJ. Shroud's future. Like the pocket quarterback who

815
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 6: isn't afraid to hang in there, isn't afraid to give

816
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 6: his guys an extra beat or two to get open,

817
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 6: and he's gonna make the throws. I don't want to

818
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 6: say that he's like a risky thrower, like a gunslinger,

819
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 6: I guess, but he's smart with it and he's gonna

820
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 6: give his guys a chance. And when you have good

821
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 6: receivers like the Texans have here, like he had in Seattle,

822
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 6: like that's the admirable way to play quarterback.

823
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 4: That's that's the word I would use to describe it.

824
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 1: When people ask you about all right, who's better Josh Allen,

825
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes. Let's just put Mahomes,

826
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: I guess, in his own category. But what about those

827
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: other guys? They're all so different in a way, But

828
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: how do you answer questions like that?

829
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 6: It's kind of impossible because they have different supporting casts,

830
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 6: they're asked to do different things. I think that's what

831
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 6: makes so it's so hard to compare quarterbacks and why

832
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 6: people get so upset when you, like rank a quarterback

833
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 6: ahead of another one. They're not asked to do the

834
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 6: same things. Like even with CJ, he's obviously asked to

835
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 6: do carry out a different role this year before the

836
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 6: snap and stuff like that. But like a guy like Lamar,

837
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 6: the thing I always say is he's a top ten

838
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 6: offense starter pack all on his own. Like, you know,

839
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 6: the running game is gonna be a top five unit

840
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 6: as long as he's back there. You know your offensive

841
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 6: line's gonna be gonna do well because they're afraid to

842
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 6: rush the passer and kind of get out of their

843
00:36:58,239 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 6: rush lanes. You know, you're not gonna get a lot

844
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 6: of coverage, so it doesn't matter if your wide receivers

845
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 6: can't separate because they don't want to turn their back

846
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 6: to the pocket that's gonna run for twenty yards. So

847
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 6: I've always been high on LAMARV and I feel like

848
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 6: my procession of him is finally caught up to the

849
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 6: results that we're seeing.

850
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 4: Uh.

851
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 6: He's the one guy that I would say he might

852
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 6: be up there with Pat.

853
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, very good, all right, Steven, thanks to love for

854
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: being with.

855
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 4: Us, Thanks for having me.

856
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: All right, there's Steven Ruiz coming up. Johnny and I

857
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: go around the league the Horseshoe plays tonight, among many

858
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 1: other things we have to discuss. It's next here on

859
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: Texans All Access Saturday start, probably, but you never know. Look,

860
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say CJ's definitely out. Dimiko did not

861
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: say that today. I'm not gonna speak for the coaching.

862
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: I don't know this lean. I'm not highing anything. I

863
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm look, I'd love to see him too,

864
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: but I don't want to see people get hurt. So

865
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: it's a conflicted thing for me. But anyway, Johnny caught

866
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: up with Davis Mills. I caught up with Luke Lache.

867
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 1: We also have Stephen Ruiz the program and he's from

868
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: the Athletic And later on we'll go around the league

869
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,959
Speaker 1: because there's some Lee info and somebody's playing tonight. Let's

870
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: get you ready. We'll do a mini Horseshoe pregame show

871
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: for tonight's outing. Whether you like it or not, it's

872
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: Texans Radio All our final journey at the Green Brier

873
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: as Tomorrow's show will be a best of camp show,

874
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: really great stuff tomorrow. Can't wait for that one and

875
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: the game of course Saturday at Minnesota three o'clock start.

876
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: But John Harrison and I wrapping things up at Slamming

877
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: Sammy's at the Green Briar overlooking the golf course and

878
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: some Texans on the range and it's a beautiful day,

879
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: and Johnny around the league. Some beautiful things going on,

880
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: like preseason football tonight featuring our favorite it's foe. And

881
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: when I say favorite, I mean you know the one

882
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: I like to hate the most, well two.

883
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 2: Of them actually, Okay, Oh, because you've got Brown's Jags.

884
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't realize Jags for tonight too. Yeah, I

885
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 1: think that's tonight. I believe it's tonight.

886
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:55,760
Speaker 2: And then you've also got the Horseshoe taken on the Ravens,

887
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 2: So you've got those games going on in the late

888
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 2: game I believe is Seahawks not take it back, No

889
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: Jacks tonight.

890
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: It's Bengals Eagles.

891
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: Okay, Colts Ravens, Bengals, Eagles, Raiders, Seahawks tonight.

892
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: That's the late My gosh, is NFL network not going

893
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: to feed me the Colts because they think I want

894
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: to watch the Bengals and the Eagles. Oh no, he's

895
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: just red zone this thing.

896
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: But you remember our friend Kay Adams upping Adams. We

897
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 2: shared a picnic table in about forty five minutes. A

898
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 2: good discussion. Last year, missed her this year? Where was

899
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 2: she when we needed her? Well, she's in Jacksonville.

900
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: Oh okay.

901
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 2: She had to sit down with the Unicorn, Travis Hunter,

902
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: and she asked him what it's been like going through

903
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: training camp. Is a two way player. I want you

904
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 2: to react to this. His quote and I quote, it's

905
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,759
Speaker 2: not hard at all.

906
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy. You know this is just Kay

907
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: Adams mesmerizing you into an answer that you're gonna regret later.

908
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: That's what it is. She has a mesmerizing quality.

909
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: I still think, though, Mark, he believes that it's not

910
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 2: going to be hard at all. I can go cover,

911
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: I can go cover Icocollins the next series. I can

912
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 2: run routes against Derek Stingley. He thinks that's going to

913
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 2: be easy to do.

914
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: It's not. I know, it's not. I know it's not.

915
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: What Adams said is such this seventeen games of this look.

916
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: He played really well for Colorado, right, what was the

917
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: record again? Never mind, it's not his fault, but I

918
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: feel like it's just going to be too difficult at

919
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,440
Speaker 1: this level to do it on a sustained basis now

920
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: moments here and there and a package here and there. Wait,

921
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 1: which is the one where he's listed first team? Is

922
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: it dB? But he's watched. No, he's said first wide

923
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: receiver and then DB's on the back line. He is

924
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: an OR for the second team. However you want to

925
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: define that, oh, or okay, or could be a starter

926
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: or no, he's he's OR for the second team or

927
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: for the second second team.

928
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: He's not quite the first first team. But yeah, it's

929
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 2: not hard at all. So I would imagine that that

930
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 2: comment will be posted in the Texans locker room.

931
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: When what is it? We three? He's listen, he's gonna

932
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: get you answer this? Which position? Will he get more

933
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: grace from dB or w R? Uh? Oh oh wr? Yeah?

934
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: Because lack of production in division game, he'd better be

935
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: playing dB one hundred percent of the time. Well, I'm

936
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:27,840
Speaker 1: just talking about if he's not producing like crazy on offense,

937
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: it'll be well, you know, he's playing defense also, so

938
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: what do you expect? Right? But if he's giving up

939
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: touchdowns at an alarming rate, and look, he's a rookie corner,

940
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you're perfect. I mean it's a rookie season.

941
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 1: I don't care if you're full time, part time, whatever time,

942
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult.

943
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 2: And look, DFC South has not thought to be a Juggernau.

944
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 2: In fact, Madden has it as the worst.

945
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 1: Division of football.

946
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: However, what that does mean is he gets six games

947
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: of Nicocollins, Christian Kirk, the Jet, the Cyclones, Calvin Ridley,

948
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 2: also the Culture receivers. I think the Culture receivers are

949
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 2: incredibly underrated. Yep, He's gonna face all those receivers. I mean,

950
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 2: it's no walking to park what he's gonna be facing

951
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 2: this year. And then it's the it's the AFC West,

952
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 2: NFC West, So he's gonna have opportunities against Pouku Nakua.

953
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: Or Defonte Adams. He's gonna have to face Marvin Harrison.

954
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: I mean, he's.

955
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 2: Gonna face a boatload of really good wide receivers and

956
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: then have to turn around and try and beat some

957
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 2: of the defensive backs and in those divisions.

958
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's got to go up against the Charger defense. Okay,

959
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: the Bronco defense, which is the best in the world, right,

960
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: you're about to tell me that, yep, And the Kansas

961
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: City Chiefs defense, and the list goes on. It's not

962
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: gonna be easy.

963
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: So going down my timeline today on x Twitter, Benjamin Albright,

964
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: who is a media member in Denver, tweeted this, I've

965
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: had a half a dozen coaches and Niners, Niners beat

966
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: people reaching out gushing over the Broncos defense in the

967
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 2: last forty minutes. Basic, the Broncos and forty nine Ers

968
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 2: are doing a little joint practice and apparently the Broncos

969
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: defense just completely destroyed the forty nine Ers offense today.

970
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 1: Well, we know they can be good. We know they

971
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 1: have some elite players. They do that, YadA, YadA, YadA.

972
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: It's a joint practice. It's great. The Texans defense looks

973
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: great right now this time of year. Let's just see

974
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: what happens when we play the games. We'll be able

975
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: to match up with the Broncos and find out and

976
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers for that matter, and find out

977
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: how we stack up. And both those games are at home.

978
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 1: That'll be good.

979
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: Let's go to the AFC West, all right. It's also

980
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 2: a team we have to play now. We don't play

981
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 2: him until later in the year, but he just signed

982
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: a big contract from out in your neighborhood from Clements

983
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: High School.

984
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: Rayshawn Slayers.

985
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,319
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, cart is out appeared to be a left

986
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: leg issue.

987
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: He's carted inside.

988
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 2: Teammates all coming up to Hug Rayshawan Slayer sucks.

989
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: That is awful.

990
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 2: They just gave him a lot of money. He is

991
00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 2: along with Joe All those two are one of the

992
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 2: better young Shoot, they're just one of the better offensive

993
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,280
Speaker 2: tackle duos in the NFL.

994
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: I just hate this.

995
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: And within a day, I mean, he's who knows now,

996
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 2: who knows what that's gonna be. Obviously, Yeah, the reports

997
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: came out of here about you know, CJ. Gardner Johnson,

998
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 2: So we'll see. But just you hear that and you're like,

999
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: oh man, this sport is so fun and it's so

1000
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 2: great to cover. And then you see a guy that

1001
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: just got a massive extension, a guy that has been

1002
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 2: really really good obviously from Houston. So I cheer for

1003
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 2: him because he's a Houstonian. Just a one day that

1004
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: we play them. I don't want him to, but he

1005
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: is really good. He's been a great player and.

1006
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: Goes down Andre's gonna be thick about it and knows

1007
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: his dad of course, and it's just terrible to see that. Look.

1008
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 1: I wish everybody could just stay totally healthy. I know

1009
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: I used to openly root for Andrew Luck to retire,

1010
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,399
Speaker 1: but that wasn't I wasn't rooting for him to get hurt, right,

1011
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: I just thought he should retire for safety purposes so

1012
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: he doesn't get hurt. And he did what I I suggested.

1013
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: So I'm very grateful that Andrew. That was weird. That

1014
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: was weird. That was weird.

1015
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: I remember I interviewed DeAndre Hopkins down on the sidelines.

1016
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 2: As soon as I got done, you were like huge

1017
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: news at Indianapolis.

1018
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: And I look over and there are guys on the

1019
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: sideline and they're all huddle around a cell phone. They

1020
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: found a cell phone. They heard found a cell phone,

1021
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: and they're like oh, they look at So. I mean,

1022
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: this is a big one.

1023
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 2: Leave that Andrew Luck had retired, Yeah, retired.

1024
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,479
Speaker 1: This is like, where were you when Kennedy was shot?

1025
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: Now I wasn't alive yet most of us listening were not.

1026
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: But it's one of those things. Okay, John Lennon dying, Uh,

1027
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to for instances, who who anno, ladies

1028
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: and gentlemen.

1029
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: The one that did that one other piece of around

1030
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: the NFL info Titans and Bucks today cam Ward apparently

1031
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: some good, some bad through the interception. Has Son Reddick

1032
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 2: had two other balls that probably should have been intercepted,

1033
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 2: but apparently Titans and Bucks people gushing about one a

1034
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: Mecca Buca.

1035
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: Oh boy, here we go the Bucks, Here we go,

1036
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: and we go to see him week two. We're seeing

1037
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 1: week two with Mike Evans. It's week one of the

1038
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: home game schedule, week two of the entire schedule.

1039
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,959
Speaker 2: Don't know if we'll see don't know who all will

1040
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: see with the Buccaneers at that point, don't know if

1041
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: Chris god will be back. But I'm telling you they

1042
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: had a coup there, a couple of highlights that popped

1043
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 2: up a Mecca book. I know that was a guy

1044
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: that a lot of people in Houston had talked about.

1045
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: There were some feelings. I'm both saw he's not a

1046
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,799
Speaker 2: great athletes, not this. Apparently he is tearing up the

1047
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: Titans secondary and gonna be a major major piece for

1048
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

1049
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: Okay, good team, no doubt, and we're gonna see him

1050
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: weapons yep. And we'll see the Titans a couple of

1051
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: times as well. Can't wait for that. Can't wait for

1052
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: the preseason opener Saturday at three, Chinny, you'll be in

1053
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,479
Speaker 1: the booth. I'm gonna miss you, yeah, I mean wave

1054
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: a wave, but you'll do a great job there. People

1055
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 1: will be watching you on ABC thirteen, and we'll be

1056
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: on the air with me, Andre Robert Hen's, the whole

1057
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: gang will be there, will be broadcasting NFL Houston Texans football.

1058
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: It is a joy. Can't wait Saturday at three tomorrow,

1059
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: Best of Camp Andre Johnson among others on the program.

1060
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: Can't wait for that as well. Have a great night everyone,

1061
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: Area forty five coming up. Go Texans.