Speaker 1: It's nine O gene one O engine with Jenny Garth
Speaker 1: and Tory spelling. What a doozy. I guess it's a
Speaker 1: doozy of an episode.
Speaker 2: So can I throw something out to you? Just right
Speaker 2: out the gate?
Speaker 1: Hi, welcome, everyone, here comes Amy. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought this had the potential to be a ten
Speaker 2: out of ten episode, but it faltered and I'm coming
Speaker 2: in at a seven. I have like it should have
Speaker 2: been today, but instead it was like messy MESSI wan
Speaker 2: messy MESSI want wat And so I've been reading all
Speaker 2: the comments. People feel strongly. They agree that season eight
Speaker 2: is rough, but a lot of people say season nine
Speaker 2: and ten come back strong, which cool. Good. Sorry it
Speaker 2: looked like crazy today too, like.
Speaker 1: A look crazy? I like it.
Speaker 2: I'm like back lit. I looked, Uh, that's whatever? Whatever?
Speaker 2: Giving up?
Speaker 1: Wait you guys, Okay, so let's just fill them in.
Speaker 1: We are talking, talking, talking about law and disorder. Law
Speaker 1: and Disorder, episode good title two of season eight. Everybody's favorite,
Speaker 1: and give me the storyline.
Speaker 2: Oh, I need someone to text it to me. But
Speaker 2: while they do that, I have exciting news that Lindsay
Speaker 2: Price wants to come on and we're working on scheduling it,
Speaker 2: which I love that she jumped right. You know, she's
Speaker 2: so nice. She was just like yes, and uh, they're
Speaker 2: finally giving her like morsels to do. It's like, oh,
Speaker 2: you see the future. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: You see the future? Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1: All right, run down me, run down me.
Speaker 2: Valeries in court and her character is called into question.
Speaker 2: Noah's vindicated when his brother makes a roofie confession. Kelly, David,
Speaker 2: and Brandon are called to the stand. David's career takes off,
Speaker 2: but without Jasper's. Noah shows up to Donna's front door,
Speaker 2: but omg, she's overdosed and is lying on the floor.
Speaker 1: Lorraine, okay, everybody, excellent.
Speaker 2: That was That was really one of your one of
Speaker 2: your best.
Speaker 1: Makes that so fun?
Speaker 2: Where do we be? Said?
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 2: Where do we begin? You know what I also thought about.
Speaker 2: I thought a lot about this episode. You know. One
Speaker 2: of the other reasons the fashion is meth I actually
Speaker 2: tried to be like, can I get excited about the fashion?
Speaker 1: It's very dark, it's very you know who had something
Speaker 1: bright on?
Speaker 2: Was?
Speaker 1: Lindsay was oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it still was met The only outfit I
Speaker 2: actually liked. Weirdly was Valerie's court outfit the black.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm, yeah, everybody looked streamline at the court. This
Speaker 1: was directed by Kevin Inch and written by Doug Steinberg.
Speaker 1: Just so y'all know, do we first want to just
Speaker 1: give a little condolences to one of our supporting cast
Speaker 1: members that passed away.
Speaker 2: Who was he?
Speaker 1: James Handy?
Speaker 2: No, I know, but who did he play? I mean,
Speaker 2: he played.
Speaker 1: Tom Rose in He played Tom Rose in Season five,
Speaker 1: the two part finale ps I Love You Part one
Speaker 1: and two. I don't know what character that was.
Speaker 2: That's what I need to remember because he's so familiar. Lorraine,
Speaker 2: can you jump in, Lorraine, jump in and remind us?
Speaker 3: Okay, So he was in the Palm Springs the two
Speaker 3: part finale when you guys went to Palm Springs and
Speaker 3: he was the wealthy mob guy businessman.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, this is when Dylan was in it. Yep,
Speaker 2: in the gondola thing when they were in the Remember
Speaker 2: when they got in that.
Speaker 1: Cup like the rough guy for Tony's dad.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, it's terrible. There was a whister.
Speaker 1: It's you guys. This is crazy, terrible stuff that happens
Speaker 1: in the world. You don't see coming, and then you're
Speaker 1: like what, why? How?
Speaker 2: And you know him from everything, like literally from.
Speaker 1: Everything and around and he's a longtime actor, character actor.
Speaker 1: We're very sorry for his family. To his family, just terrible.
Speaker 2: And in an awkward pivot, I will awkwardly pivot to
Speaker 2: another actor that really is in this right from the jump, yea,
Speaker 2: Chris Pine's dad my favorite from Chips, Sergeant Gatrard. I
Speaker 2: think that's how say it, Gertrard. I can't say the
Speaker 2: name Girtrard. It's a hard name to say. His Chips character,
Speaker 2: but that's Chris Pine's dad playing Valerie's attorney.
Speaker 1: Robert Pine, Yeah, who works endlessly, endlessly, but he was
Speaker 1: so good in the as the like head dude on Chips.
Speaker 2: He really was great on Chips. I know, I love Chips.
Speaker 2: That's so like our era. Yeah, it's just immediate d
Speaker 2: And I could just see Eric Estrada like roller skating
Speaker 2: around something.
Speaker 1: Maybe you should go after a troop's rewatch because I
Speaker 1: know the I know the female. I know the woman
Speaker 1: that plays the female cop.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but like one badass lady.
Speaker 1: That is my ex husband's girlfriend's mother.
Speaker 2: I have the weirdest memory that someone I knows mom.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if that's proper grammar. Someone I
Speaker 2: knows that's not how you say it. But someone I
Speaker 2: know her mom was her stunt double. But I feel
Speaker 2: like maybe we made that up. I'm gonna find that out.
Speaker 1: Oh that's fun to make up.
Speaker 2: It's so random and it feels right.
Speaker 1: You can get you right in there with Eric Estrata.
Speaker 1: So John just throw.
Speaker 2: Pauncha John and remember when John had a contract negotiation
Speaker 2: and then there was like someone's brother filled in or
Speaker 2: somebody's mother, random and his brother, these two cute blondes. Anyway, Chips,
Speaker 2: I think Brady Bunch is more up our alley.
Speaker 1: Wait, do you want to talk just like one trivia
Speaker 1: thing about this episode? Yes, Donna's cubicle photos. I know
Speaker 1: you need.
Speaker 2: To talk about this. I rewound rewind so many times,
Speaker 2: so many times. Whose dog is that? I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's just this dog, dog dog dog dog.
Speaker 1: Crop guy's dog. Like they just get random pictures. They
Speaker 1: know you're not going to really see them.
Speaker 2: But I wanted to zoom in. We need to put
Speaker 2: it on.
Speaker 1: You couldn't show them in back then.
Speaker 2: I guess that's true. You really couldn't.
Speaker 1: You'd have to notice, you'd have to go up to
Speaker 1: the TV with a like a with.
Speaker 2: A magnifying glass. That'd be the only way to zoom in.
Speaker 2: There's just dog. There's like a picture of you and Tory,
Speaker 2: and like somebody that I can't tell who it is,
Speaker 2: another blonde And also like, why would you have pictures
Speaker 2: of Steve Sanders, like with a dog in your cubicle?
Speaker 1: A dog I've never seen AnyWho that that's the truth.
Speaker 2: Also, there was an uncomforts puff Daddy joke.
Speaker 1: Wait when I didn't hear it.
Speaker 2: Valerie's talking to David when he's fake winning his Grammy
Speaker 2: in the bathroom, and she says something like, okay, puff Daddy,
Speaker 2: Oh I did not age well.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so many things like that in
Speaker 1: the show. Like that, I mean, in general, the show
Speaker 1: has held its own for thirty eight almost forty years,
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of little moments where you're like, oh.
Speaker 2: I was at a memorial on Friday last Friday and
Speaker 2: someone came up to me and said, oh, I love
Speaker 2: you on MG.
Speaker 1: And I was just like, yeah, who they love you, Amy,
Speaker 1: they love you.
Speaker 2: Somebody was so nice, but I was just like, I
Speaker 2: forget people listen. Sometimes I think it's just you and me.
Speaker 1: I know. That's the thing, Like we get so comfortable
Speaker 1: doing this that it is an actual real conversation, and
Speaker 1: who really knows what we're going to talk.
Speaker 2: We don't know what we're saying half the time. And
Speaker 2: then I definitely don't know what I look like because
Speaker 2: anyone that might poke at the Instagram today.
Speaker 1: Prepared to be Let's start in court. Let's start in court. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Valerie has her big day in court so fast,
Speaker 1: by the way, this court system in LA, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for to get it all in there.
Speaker 2: Literally five seconds. The case is ready, the court, the case.
Speaker 1: Is prep She's hired this lawyer guy. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: we jumped a bunch of time, but I don't think so.
Speaker 2: Was there a jury, by the way, was there a jury?
Speaker 1: I didn't see them?
Speaker 2: Or was it a judge?
Speaker 1: Yeah, judge, there was a jury. Oh there was a jury.
Speaker 2: First of all, this isn't even a criminal trial.
Speaker 1: It's like anyway, you guys, I just have to tell
Speaker 1: you my life. I just flew in. I don't even
Speaker 1: know when. I don't know where I am right now
Speaker 1: I had to watch this on one and a half
Speaker 1: speed because I took my mom to the doctors. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: so there's a few things I.
Speaker 2: Meet any that causes it's just well, I watched it,
Speaker 2: and I watched it like twice because there was so
Speaker 2: many things. I kept rewinding because I'm like, wait, did
Speaker 2: I catch that right?
Speaker 1: I love court scenes. I think that I love the
Speaker 1: court scenes for selfish reasons because you just sit there
Speaker 1: and you don't have to talk. Like everybody loves a
Speaker 1: court day, oh actor, you don't have to be there
Speaker 1: for most of it and you just pop in for
Speaker 1: your close up on the pew on the bench.
Speaker 2: I love the bts here, So do stand in sit
Speaker 2: there most of the time and you only have to
Speaker 2: be there for like when you're coverages or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or like maybe when they're seeing you behind the
Speaker 1: coverage of someone else.
Speaker 2: There's so much to talk about. Because here's my problem
Speaker 2: with Valerie. So she isn't lying this time right in
Speaker 2: that she does think she was roofied. Fact, she thinks
Speaker 2: it was no She did sleep with Noah. She isn't lying,
Speaker 2: but she's lie. This is my problem with her is
Speaker 2: that she doesn't have any self awareness. She's lied and
Speaker 2: schemed and connived and done terrible things so many times.
Speaker 2: But the butt hurtness she has by everyone not believing her,
Speaker 2: and the utter shock and dismay that these so called
Speaker 2: friends don't believe her. How is she not like, well,
Speaker 2: I guess if you lie twenty thousand times, the one.
Speaker 1: Time you don't, yeah, you lose track of your lies.
Speaker 2: That's my like rub with how they crafted this character.
Speaker 1: Right, they make her unredeemable, then they try to redeem her,
Speaker 1: and then they make her unredeemable, and then they no,
Speaker 1: we're just not falling for it.
Speaker 2: And I've been like trying to think about like Joan
Speaker 2: Collins as Alexis on Dynasty, and why she isn't irritating.
Speaker 2: She's like totally evil.
Speaker 1: And she's just bad to the bone, no exception.
Speaker 2: Yes, and they're not trying to redeem her. I think
Speaker 2: the mistake here is that they keep it's just this whiplash,
Speaker 2: and also the self righteousness where she's like, yeah, you
Speaker 2: guys aren't my friends. Well, no, we're not your friends.
Speaker 2: Think of the list of terrible things you've done.
Speaker 1: But then in the next moment they're friends. Like she
Speaker 1: did did you catch the one thing where she comes
Speaker 1: in and says, oh, welcome to my so called life.
Speaker 1: Was that show? Anya?
Speaker 2: Was that? Yes? I think it was. Yes, I think
Speaker 2: I caught that. And also I'm even a little mad
Speaker 2: at Kelly because you go over and you're like, well,
Speaker 2: I do believe you.
Speaker 1: Why does she apply like I don't get it. I
Speaker 1: don't because the scene before that, she's ready to break
Speaker 1: up with Brandon over it because they you know, he says,
Speaker 1: we're not ready for this, are we, because they're arguing
Speaker 1: over Valerie. And then the next like she sits and
Speaker 1: listens to that guy's like, okay, Noah's brother when he
Speaker 1: was on the stand, he was telling the truth. Because
Speaker 1: now even I'm getting confused.
Speaker 2: No, he's the roof heer.
Speaker 1: But he didn't lie on stand. He just said what
Speaker 1: he saw, how well.
Speaker 2: He did, and that he said I don't know who
Speaker 2: put it in her drink, but he does.
Speaker 1: Know why he didn't. Okay, So based on his liar,
Speaker 1: you know, testimonial there, Kelly then goes out of her
Speaker 1: way to say, I want to apologize. I believe you.
Speaker 2: Now my thing is I guess if you Okay, this
Speaker 2: is what I'm thinking about is if someone does ten
Speaker 2: crimes but then they didn't do the eleventh, Are you like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm your friend?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean because she's she has to admit to all
Speaker 1: the things of fake pregnancy, the blackmail, the illegal gambling,
Speaker 1: all the things. I just why is anyone friends and
Speaker 1: then admits that she wanted to be with him because
Speaker 1: he had money.
Speaker 2: She deserved to win, because she was rubey feet. It
Speaker 2: was just the wrong guy defendant. I suppose sort of
Speaker 2: because I don't like, maybe he took advantage of her.
Speaker 2: I don't know. That's all messy and complicated, but she
Speaker 2: doesn't deserve friends just because one time she told the truth.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this line that David said?
Speaker 1: He said to the gang Brandon, Kelly, and Steve, who
Speaker 1: are there and I don't think Donna was in that scene.
Speaker 1: He said, you're either with her or you're against her.
Speaker 2: We're against her.
Speaker 1: But is that like, is that a statement that you
Speaker 1: can really So.
Speaker 2: What they were trying to do was say we kind
Speaker 2: of believe her, we kind of don't. They were sort
Speaker 2: of like, yeah, what's that called when you're like trying
Speaker 2: to be on both sides? So his point is correct.
Speaker 2: You're either with her or you're against her. You can't
Speaker 2: be both. Okay, fine, correct, but I can be with
Speaker 2: her on this and still totally against her on the
Speaker 2: thousand other.
Speaker 1: Things, right, because you don't believe her anymore.
Speaker 2: I think she was definitely a victim in this particular situation.
Speaker 2: She's also terrible in every other situation.
Speaker 1: Well, whatever she wins the civil trial.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know if she still gets the
Speaker 2: money now that we know it wasn't Noah, that it
Speaker 2: was Michael Trucco, who's coming on. Also, by the way,
Speaker 2: can't we wait know.
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Will she get the money? Will Noah be vindicated? And
Speaker 1: oh not the is that the word vindicated?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: I feel like Noah is good now because he came over.
Speaker 2: We tied it up with a little bow so fast.
Speaker 2: He came over, tells the truth Donna found which.
Speaker 1: Donna, Wait, we're not there yet, Do not do me
Speaker 1: stay on board.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go with We'll go with David and Silver
Speaker 2: First and his Porsche and his prel shampoo.
Speaker 1: No, finish your sentence. I can't my brain.
Speaker 2: So Noah comes over, knock knock knock. We let him in.
Speaker 2: Hi ahah yeah, you can come in. And he says
Speaker 2: it was my brother, and I'm going to stand by
Speaker 2: you and I'll testify, do whatever you need. So now
Speaker 2: I think he's he's fine now, good guy, He's all fine.
Speaker 2: He's still cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.
Speaker 1: Not a good guy. Okay, I'm so confusing. It's like
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Wait, can we talk about David now? David
Speaker 1: is whilst he's supporting his girlfriend.
Speaker 2: I guess there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now he's getting this well, first of all, there's good.
Speaker 1: There's a new mustache in town and a new sound
Speaker 1: for his band, which is not going to be his
Speaker 1: band anymore. It's going to just be a solo act.
Speaker 1: I mean, did you like the mustache? Let's talk about that,
Speaker 1: because it's is this.
Speaker 2: The new record label guy or or David David weird?
Speaker 1: I feel as if I would have noticed this last week.
Speaker 2: It's just strangely light facial.
Speaker 1: Hairs, strangely skinny. Yeah, just skinny, right, it's on his
Speaker 1: liip line, skinny little.
Speaker 2: I think that the whole storyline is a little bit crazy.
Speaker 1: Wait, you think that it's crazy that David's going to
Speaker 1: break out and be his own artist.
Speaker 2: I just think it's so Johnny Bravo. You don't think
Speaker 2: it's just like you fit the suit. Like here comes
Speaker 2: this new label guy. Oh, we don't want the band,
Speaker 2: we only want you. Oh, just record this track, roll
Speaker 2: this on DAT. By the way, I was like, dat.
Speaker 2: I haven't heard the word dat in a thousand years.
Speaker 2: Remember that, Like it's on a DAT tape.
Speaker 1: But is Jasper history now?
Speaker 2: I don't remember. And then Jasper comes, they have this
Speaker 2: sort of nice exchange. David says he's going to fix everything,
Speaker 2: and then the Porsche showed up, and it's just like
Speaker 2: that's how he fixed it. He bought himself a new car,
Speaker 2: got a Porsche for a week from the label. It's
Speaker 2: just so dumb.
Speaker 1: I mean I'd take it for a week.
Speaker 2: Well for sure.
Speaker 1: But also if somebody came to you and said put
Speaker 1: yourself in his position and said they said, like, we're
Speaker 1: not really feeling the band, but we really want to
Speaker 1: work with you, and so you have this new opportunity
Speaker 1: and it could lead to this huge thing.
Speaker 2: I think Jasper's beef was that he was stealing their
Speaker 2: songs or something, because he recorded on DAT that one
Speaker 2: song that wasn't his. I don't know, some drama and
Speaker 2: Jasper he was right, the Jasper stormed off. I don't know.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is just like.
Speaker 1: Still he leave the band and do his solo thing.
Speaker 2: I don't remember what happens.
Speaker 1: Would you leave the band and do your solo thing
Speaker 1: if you had the same opportunity.
Speaker 2: Like when Lionel Richie left the Commodore.
Speaker 1: Sure, okay, yeah, just like that.
Speaker 2: Let me give everybody a really current reference. I just
Speaker 2: want to give everyone just a real current reference, like
Speaker 2: when Lionel Richie left the Commodores. I get it, right,
Speaker 2: I get it. Let me think of another good example. Oh,
Speaker 2: Natalie Merchant and the ten thousand Maniacs. I think at
Speaker 2: one point she had to leave those maniacs behind. I
Speaker 2: get an, I get it. But it's messy.
Speaker 1: It's messy. But would you do it?
Speaker 2: Yeah? But I would do it right. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: I would do it right. I would say, Jasper, this
Speaker 2: is what happened. I'm so sorry. If you were in
Speaker 2: my position, you probably would do the same thing. I
Speaker 2: don't blame you. Let's see what happens. Maybe there's a
Speaker 2: world where we all work together. Again, I don't know.
Speaker 2: There's ways of handling it. Yeah, It's like if you
Speaker 2: were up for a Let's say you and I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm making this up. Let's say you and your daughter
Speaker 2: are gonna do a lifetime movie about being in your family.
Speaker 2: I'm making this up. And then they're like, you know what, Jenny,
Speaker 2: you're great, but your daughter just doesn't have the chops yet.
Speaker 2: That could happen and you're like, you know what, kid,
Speaker 2: mama's gotta do the movie anyway, or vice versa. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's even better. Maybe your kid's a bad example. Don't
Speaker 2: do the kid bad example. Ignore, but like you and I,
Speaker 2: you and I are going to write the podcast movie right,
Speaker 2: and they're like, Amy, you're just not as good of
Speaker 2: an actor. Jenny has to do it without you. You
Speaker 2: could be like, hey, we'll still work together, or I'm
Speaker 2: gonna give you credit or whatever.
Speaker 1: There's always ways, ways, there's ways.
Speaker 2: These are bad examples. But I tried, Sarah Bard, I
Speaker 2: tried so hard. So Lionel Richie left the Commodores.
Speaker 1: So good, so good. Well, I'm anxious to see what
Speaker 1: his new mustache is going to do in the next
Speaker 1: episode with his big music career. I'm for it.
Speaker 2: I think like four music career, you really I want
Speaker 2: to bop.
Speaker 1: Around to that though, But here's what I'm confused with.
Speaker 1: Though he was in the mirror practicing his acceptance speech
Speaker 1: for now that was gonna So he's like, power to
Speaker 1: the What did he say something about thanks to the poulation, Yeah,
Speaker 1: making this happen. And then he pretends like he's talking
Speaker 1: to Mick, So I'm assuming that the Jagger and then
Speaker 1: two people who are nowhere near the hip hop nation music,
Speaker 1: It's like, wait.
Speaker 2: They couldn't think of a hippo persons gave me so
Speaker 2: much secondhand cringe, Like, I don't even know how he
Speaker 2: did that scene he did it with the prel literally
Speaker 2: looked green. Maybe it was garnier fruit teas. I'm not sure,
Speaker 2: but it was just like and Valerie watching and then
Speaker 2: that was sort of actually kind of cute. She's fighting
Speaker 2: with everybody in this episode. I mean, oh, but.
Speaker 1: He's really being a good guy and sticking by her side.
Speaker 1: So let's see what happens with that. Okay, Hey, Donna, Donna, Donna.
Speaker 2: I don't even know where to begin. I don't know
Speaker 2: where to begin with the sort of what is happening.
Speaker 1: Why does her boss thinks she's incompetent, Like he keeps saying, right.
Speaker 2: It's just like so weird when she keeps crushing it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess he's just trying to support her,
Speaker 1: but I guess, like.
Speaker 2: She stole the designs, which was just so.
Speaker 1: Troping the evil. Now she's the evil man evil.
Speaker 2: She's evil. She's like, it's not like it's a little off,
Speaker 2: the whole thing and the whole going to the dad,
Speaker 2: and then the dad just dumping pills in a bottle.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't think he's doing that, Like this
Speaker 2: is so weird. Second of all, you still have to
Speaker 2: go to the CBS to get your pills. They don't
Speaker 2: keep them at the doctor's office. I've never been to
Speaker 2: a doctor's office where they just give it to you there.
Speaker 1: Do you well, maybe this was happening in the nineties
Speaker 1: at a free cleaning. Maybe they got pills.
Speaker 2: She's trying to open the thing with a nail file,
Speaker 2: like no.
Speaker 1: It just happened to be like a perfect like long
Speaker 1: daggered nil.
Speaker 2: And then she's like slipt it into her purse, and
Speaker 2: I remember she's already stolen pills from the same doctor's office.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's going back to the well. Something bad's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: And I was thinking, like, she's never okay. She goes
Speaker 1: to the pharmacy, she can't get her pills there because
Speaker 1: the guy's got to go to his birthday.
Speaker 2: She loses her.
Speaker 1: The end of the show is her holding a pill
Speaker 1: bottle on her head. I was so like, why that position?
Speaker 1: First of all, why would they go out in that position?
Speaker 1: The second of all, was like, I'm never like all
Speaker 1: the I was watching a thing. She doesn't look like
Speaker 1: she has a problem. Then all of a sudden, she
Speaker 1: looked haggard, like she looked like I wanted her to
Speaker 1: look because she has an addiction problem. Is really struggling, like,
Speaker 1: she looked tired, her hair wasn't great. Finally it looks
Speaker 1: There's some.
Speaker 2: Weird close ups where she's like supposed to be menacing
Speaker 2: and feeling guilty at the same time, and the scurrying
Speaker 2: through the suitcase.
Speaker 1: I mean, she was giving it her all, God bless her,
Speaker 1: like she was doing her job.
Speaker 2: She really was. I feel like Tori was giving it everything,
Speaker 2: but I feel like someone wasn't helping her. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then the someone is Kelly Taylor.
Speaker 2: Like she or the director like it was just like definitely.
Speaker 1: But like wouldn't Kelly notice and be She's so like
Speaker 1: experienced in this world with all her addiction her mom.
Speaker 2: Dad, who's like a world renowned doctor. He's not just
Speaker 2: gonna be like, let me give you eight more pills.
Speaker 2: And then she did you see she took him into
Speaker 2: a handful.
Speaker 1: Like it was just like, yeah, she did think three
Speaker 1: or four.
Speaker 2: Although I thought Noah, whoever plays Noah did great acting
Speaker 2: there at the end.
Speaker 1: What do you mean whoever plays Noah.
Speaker 2: Names out of my head?
Speaker 1: Okay, what is his name? Vince? I think Vince, Yeah, Vince. Uh.
Speaker 2: He did good acting at the end. It's splotchy. Here's
Speaker 2: this episode splotchy. There's some really great things and then
Speaker 2: some real.
Speaker 1: Good gosh yeah. And then when she's going through hoosey
Speaker 1: Butt's luggage to find the meds that she desperately needs,
Speaker 1: she comes across a giant I thought it was a
Speaker 1: chocolate bar at first, but it's a giant box of
Speaker 1: row Hip Nol with his name on it.
Speaker 2: It's just so bonkers because at first she's like, I
Speaker 2: need these pills. I need this. And then she's like,
Speaker 2: and by the way, I caught your hypnol, Like it
Speaker 2: was just like I mean that I all bought because
Speaker 2: she's out of her mind at this point and all that.
Speaker 1: But but is that was real hypnoal ever prescribed for
Speaker 1: someone that has sleep.
Speaker 2: I don't know he had some sort of like reason
Speaker 2: why he had his Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: First of all, I just I don't know. It just
Speaker 1: was so big. It looked like a Hershey's crunch bar.
Speaker 2: So it's just very.
Speaker 1: But thank god Donna un covered the mystery. Now everybody
Speaker 1: can go back to my problem too.
Speaker 2: Like I wish there would have been a different way,
Speaker 2: Like I wish that would have come out with like
Speaker 2: Noah and the brother having some sort of a fight
Speaker 2: and then he's like, well I did it, you know,
Speaker 2: and then you're like, but like, instead, this was.
Speaker 1: Just so swirly and like, I'm sorry, I was disappointed.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie like I was like into it
Speaker 2: and disappointed at the same time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then everything kind of like you said, wraps
Speaker 1: up with the bow. VAL's got her gang of.
Speaker 2: Friends back, Yeah, and now they're all best friends.
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping that this storyline is Oh the.
Speaker 2: I think it is. I mean no, because I know
Speaker 2: what's coming, Jessica Alba's coming. And then there's like a
Speaker 2: baby and you are yeah, you've got a major part
Speaker 2: in the whole baby thing.
Speaker 1: And then oh, it's like shoot, oh this is exciting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's it's a.
Speaker 2: Pretty big storyline coming. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, next week we have episode twenty three of season eight,
Speaker 1: which is making amends.
Speaker 2: Oh sounds like noahen Valerie. Well, and is Donna just
Speaker 2: gonna be recovered in one episode?
Speaker 1: Props?
Speaker 2: How about that we've never fully seen the rug before.
Speaker 2: I was like the hodgepodginess of that living room with
Speaker 2: the cowhide. So there's the cow hide, yeah, because Donna
Speaker 2: is laying on it. So you're finally seeing that living
Speaker 2: room from the other angle, because normally we see it
Speaker 2: when everyone's in the couch with all the floral and
Speaker 2: then the cowhide and then there's this rug that's just
Speaker 2: very not really of the vibe. I was like, I
Speaker 2: think there's a coffee table, you know what.
Speaker 1: I do love about it? Like I guess people when
Speaker 1: they were watching it thought, wow, this is like Beverly
Speaker 1: Hill's furnishing. This style is so cool these two.
Speaker 2: I was literally like, can I have this apartment.
Speaker 1: So much back then now? But but as you look
Speaker 1: at it now, you're like, nothing goes with anything. So
Speaker 1: I kind of always thought, and I also love because
Speaker 1: this is two girls.
Speaker 2: They're not right and it's and they're like right, they
Speaker 2: don't have tons of money, so they're getting there. You
Speaker 2: know that's missus Martin's old rug. You know that that
Speaker 2: we put with the killer right exactly. So I did
Speaker 2: see the room from another angle.
Speaker 1: But thank goodness, Noah comes and saves her and kicks
Speaker 1: through the window. Oh the Doris.
Speaker 2: Sively broke the thing. I was like, oh, well, thank god,
Speaker 2: maybe this is how they'll reunite. I find this to
Speaker 2: be a ten to seven at the same time.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I'll accept that. I want to give
Speaker 1: it a good old six.
Speaker 2: Oh whoa low marks.
Speaker 1: Well, it's like I'm like, yeah, good loops.
Speaker 2: Low marks, and I'm gonna get a light so that
Speaker 2: I don't look crezy.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that this was an exceptionally good episode.
Speaker 2: That you gave us six to.
Speaker 1: It was like it felt like filler some for some reason.
Speaker 1: To me, it felt unfulfilled.
Speaker 2: To me, it felt like here comes our crescendo and
Speaker 2: like the orchestra band leader went to the bathroom. God,
Speaker 2: my analogies are like really.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, little Richie now yeah, God wow.
Speaker 2: It just feels like this is gonna be the big one.
Speaker 2: Too much and also too male heavy. Can I say
Speaker 2: that we only have just before we go? I know,
Speaker 2: we have like two minutes you Donna, maybe a dabble
Speaker 2: of Lindsey, But we've got Brandon, We've got David, We've
Speaker 2: got Jasper, We've got Michael Trucco, We've got Steve, We've
Speaker 2: got Noah. It's like so I'm like, maybe that's the
Speaker 2: other thing that I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, well, I mean there's a dominantly male producing
Speaker 1: and writing team. Let's just say, yeah, we got a
Speaker 1: lot of men. Yeah, I mean there were a few women.
Speaker 1: God bless something that way. We could use some more
Speaker 1: like a female energy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like some things, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If we could go back and fix it.
Speaker 2: There's so many changes that you could make this thing
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 1: What if we could go back and fix it and
Speaker 1: then we just messed it up entirely, like to the
Speaker 1: point where no one watched.
Speaker 2: Well, right, exactly, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe they were geniuses. They were building the best shows.
Speaker 2: Think about Melrose Place.
Speaker 1: What do we say?
Speaker 2: Same chaos is happening at Melrose Place where you're like, wait, what,
Speaker 2: who's baby? What takes her hair off? You know the
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 1: Good time, it's spelling nighttime TV.
Speaker 2: What are you watching right now? Are you binging anything
Speaker 2: or watching? I hate that? What are you binging?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: So lam just what are your bag of chips? I'm binging?
Speaker 1: I'm watching this Mystic Bay? Is that the show?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Will Wow Willow's Bay, Widow Bay Whitter? But yeah, maybe
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's about a haunted island.
Speaker 3: Wi.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that lead actress. He's captivating. I love him.
Speaker 2: I'm watching Kate Fear.
Speaker 1: Oh that just came out. Okay, that's that's next on
Speaker 1: my list. But also watching still haven't gotten through the
Speaker 1: end of the Age of whatever the show is about?
Speaker 1: The age difference dating reality show you're watching that, I'm
Speaker 1: watching it. It's a Nick Via album.
Speaker 2: Yes, not for nick I understand, but if you would
Speaker 2: have given me one, I.
Speaker 1: Get why you're watching it because I'm old at n
Speaker 1: dating the younger.
Speaker 2: Correct, But if you would have given me one thousand guesses,
Speaker 2: I would not have guessed you would watch I didn't
Speaker 2: even know you watched reality shows.
Speaker 1: Just once in a while. We'll get one of them
Speaker 1: in just how do you like it? In our groove
Speaker 1: and then be like, I gotta see what happens.
Speaker 2: It's got a season two pickup.
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, well, I'm probably the reason me.
Speaker 2: You really pushed that one Netflix.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what I'm gonna watch right now. But
Speaker 1: I'm going to move on to Cape Fear.
Speaker 2: It's good, it's good, it's good. You gotta do off
Speaker 2: campus too, Like everybody else.
Speaker 1: In the world, what's off campus?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jenny, everybody knows about this, and I
Speaker 2: know everybody in America knows about off campus. It's number
Speaker 2: one on Amazon Prime, right, Okay.
Speaker 1: I think you're just making a general broad statement.
Speaker 2: It's like the cut in American College and and sort
Speaker 2: of the smart girl gets the honky guy, but it's
Speaker 2: really faked to get the other hunky guy.
Speaker 1: Never heard of this.
Speaker 2: Oh, oh my gosh, it's so it's it's really.
Speaker 1: Really really is it like supposed to be? Like the
Speaker 1: summer I turned pretty kind of.
Speaker 2: It's kind of of that era. It's sort of like
Speaker 2: teen television that adults are watching.
Speaker 1: Hmm, curious where they got that idea. There is so
Speaker 1: many now I love it.
Speaker 2: You know, it's so funny. It is the nine O
Speaker 2: two one oher of now it literally is it literally
Speaker 2: is well, kids got to watch TV too, and fun fact,
Speaker 2: I've told this on a bunch of shows. The main
Speaker 2: girl's mom.
Speaker 1: I grew up with her, the main girl's mom on
Speaker 1: no in real life.
Speaker 2: So Ella Bride's mom, I grew up with her, went
Speaker 2: to middle school. I know that.
Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. That means nothing to me. Why
Speaker 1: that's so like what I've never I don't even know
Speaker 1: this show existed until.
Speaker 2: You know what everybody listening knows and they're like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's funny. Amy knows Ella Bright's mom.
Speaker 1: Can anyone please comment and let me know that they
Speaker 1: don't they don't know about this, shope because it make me.
Speaker 2: Fun nobody let's even get one?
Speaker 1: Well, would I would take one?
Speaker 2: What's going on on your cute cup?
Speaker 1: But this is an Eagles mug?
Speaker 2: Oh that's your team, that's right? Yeah, Happy uh birthday
Speaker 2: to your husband.
Speaker 3: By the way.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, my husband turned forty five, saying god, oh
Speaker 1: my god. He's like I've been waiting for him to
Speaker 1: get old forever, not happening. The problem is I get
Speaker 1: older and then he gets old, like it's like forty five.
Speaker 2: He's like a JBB.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: So when you were driving, he was going to second grade.
Speaker 2: That's what I love. I think I'm gonna do that too.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna I'm gonna date younger, do it.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's more fun. And also nobody cares. I've
Speaker 1: gotta get better lighting and then I will lose carry
Speaker 1: around a ring light with you all the time. But
Speaker 1: Dave is you know, he's grown into an incredible man.
Speaker 2: So oh, I love your husband. He's the best. Has
Speaker 2: he been wearing the sweatshirt I gave him?
Speaker 1: Sure, it's got a bleach stain on it. Sorry, he works.
Speaker 2: That's fine. That just makes it look vintage. I love you.
Speaker 2: What else should we talk about? I think you have
Speaker 2: to go somewhere.
Speaker 3: I have to go.
Speaker 1: I'm going to record Valerie Burton Nellie's Oh.
Speaker 2: My gosh, by the way, ask her first of all,
Speaker 2: you know, I love her so much, And she just
Speaker 2: did that she made the cake and a cup. I
Speaker 2: think I saw her doing that on her Instagram. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: well I follow completely watch all her everything. Wow, I
Speaker 2: love she This is what I love. You can ask
Speaker 2: her about this. She's so willing to be vulnerable. She
Speaker 2: will just like you know what, Hey, guys, my day sucks.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna tell you about it. I'm gonna cry. We're
Speaker 2: gonna feel better together, like and I'm like, girl, yeah.
Speaker 1: No, she's like everybody's next door neighbor.
Speaker 2: She's like the coolest lady who's like really embraced her
Speaker 2: whole trajectory and I am just here for it from
Speaker 2: one day at a time. And like she's such an
Speaker 2: awesome mom. She's she's a great you know, like she
Speaker 2: was a great wife, and she was a great divorced wife.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like so many things about
Speaker 2: her that I'm like, Yes, yes, she's a good egg.
Speaker 2: Yeah she's legit. Oh enjoy that I forgot that was
Speaker 2: coming up. Well, everybody tune into that on I Choose Me.
Speaker 2: When is it coming out? We'll tell you.
Speaker 1: She's already been on I Choose Me. I'm going on
Speaker 1: her podcast. She has a new podcast called getting naked.
Speaker 2: Excuse me, Oh my gosh, how good you'll tell her.
Speaker 2: I wanted to make her lemon cake, but I didn't
Speaker 2: like the lemon part.
Speaker 1: CA I'll tell her bye, guys, see you next week.