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Speaker 1: Zef in best start changing it with the beck Del Cast. Hello,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the Bechdel Cast. My name is Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: Miss Jamie, and we're here to talk about movies and

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Speaker 1: how women are portrayed in those movies. Women rule, women rule,

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Speaker 1: not according to movies, So no women suck. And that's

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Speaker 1: especially true of the movie we're talking about today. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot. Yeah, there's a lot to say. I

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Speaker 1: watched this movie once drunk, once sober, and tried to

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Speaker 1: We'll see if I can piece it apart. I watched

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Speaker 1: a much more enjoyable way to watch it. Yes, but hey,

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Speaker 1: let's jump in and introduce our guests. Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: He is an educator, but his most impressive credit is

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Speaker 1: It's j T. Taylor. Guys, thanks for having me. Thanks

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Speaker 1: for being here, my friend. Yeah. Thanks, that was a

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Speaker 1: good introduction. I'm I teach the youth of America about

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Speaker 1: commas and quotation marks and commas inside of quotation marks.

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Speaker 1: What would you say is the most important piece of punctuation? Puberty? Okay, amazing? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's usually where we start at the school year in

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Speaker 1: English class, puberty, and by the end they're shaving. It's great,

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Speaker 1: I miss shaving at school. You're you're in junior high

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Speaker 1: each other. My friends just shaven, shave it away. Yeah. Well,

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Speaker 1: this podcast is inspired by the Bechtel Tests. Right, do

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Speaker 1: that you apply to movies or whatever, anything that has

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Speaker 1: a story. The test requires that the story has two

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Speaker 1: female characters. They have to talk to each other, they

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Speaker 1: have to have names, and their conversation can't be about

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Speaker 1: a man. I would honestly be fascinated if this is

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Speaker 1: the first episode someone would choose to listen to, because

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Speaker 1: it speaks more to their movie taste than anything aft, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is going to be my jumping off point for feminism. Hey, Jes,

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Speaker 1: tell us about your your history. Well we're talking about Twilight,

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Speaker 1: do you know? Oh no, you've misprepared. Were already give

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Speaker 1: it five film. So I'm an educator that means I

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Speaker 1: summer reading included Twilight. Real, what time do I start? Who?

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Speaker 1: In their right mind? For what age? The Massachusetts? There there?

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Speaker 1: It was a high school book for the high school

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Speaker 1: reading list. It's not there anymore, right, So what what

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Speaker 1: year would this have been? Tight? So that was when

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Speaker 1: want to transfer? Yeah? I want to go back in time.

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Speaker 1: My mom loved these books and she bought the box

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Speaker 1: later do the same thing with fifty shades, but I passed.

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Speaker 1: It was like your commings on these books. This is

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Speaker 1: chriss Well. I first encountered Twilight by going to visit

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Speaker 1: Bella's a central character and she has the least personality

420
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,679
Speaker 1: out of everybody, which is kind of done intentionally so

421
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: that the intended audience plugs themselves into that character. So

422
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 1: it's like not like teenage boys are watching this, or

423
00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: you know, at least not to the same degree, but like,

424
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 1: teenage boys are watching this and they're like, I totally

425
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: relate with Edward Colin, but teenage girls almost universally if

426
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: shoe choices at my junior promor to be believed related

427
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: with Bella and I had to model themselves after her. Yeah,

428
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: you make a very good point about how the story

429
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: positions this as true love and your relationship is like this,

430
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: then oh how romantic? What a like a romance for

431
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: the ages, which I guess people fell for that because

432
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,880
Speaker 1: this is a worldwide phenomenon, But I mean that moms

433
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: fell for that, which is even more in my mom

434
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: but like, but moms, we're into this series and that

435
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: it's just like whoo, whoof this goes back? Well, this

436
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 1: came out or this was like kind of the height

437
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: of its popularity right after college for me, I think,

438
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: and I had people my age, like in their early twenties,

439
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 1: and then I remember talking to my friend and her

440
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,919
Speaker 1: older sister who was like late twenties. They were just

441
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: all enamored with this story. And I never understood it

442
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: because I have exquisite taste and self respect. Back to

443
00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 1: the point of her being continually abused throughout this story

444
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: by Edward and standing up for herself. But then also no, yeah,

445
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: she completely acknowledges her the quota. So the lion fell

446
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: in love with the lamb. What a stupid lamb, sick

447
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: masochistic lion, right, and then they're like, let's kiss, yeah,

448
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: and there's a romantic song, right, the music swells. Well,

449
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: this goes goes back a little bit. But Bella's relationship

450
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 1: with her mom is very weird, where I don't remember

451
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: if she's like if it's expressed that she's like a

452
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 1: little bit frustrated or resentful of her mom. In the

453
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: book and the movie, her mom is like, yeah, I'm married, uh,

454
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 1: minor league baseball player, and I'm just gonna go watch

455
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 1: a fun ton of minor league baseball baseball team. But

456
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: but we see her call her mom multiple times, and

457
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: she's like, I missed you, mom, I love you Mom.

458
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 1: I was just like, are you not? But then the

459
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: mom follows up with what about the boys. Are the

460
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 1: boys cute at your new school? Hey? Many new boys? Yeah? Yeah,

461
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: And then she says I don't know, I'm not great,

462
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: and then she's like, Okay, I gotta watch some baseball.

463
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: Feeling she's always it like a batting cage on a

464
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: pay phone or like what are you doing? Like why

465
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: is she not? Why is Bella not furious at her

466
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: mom of like, thanks for dumping me in Washington with

467
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 1: my tom Sel like dad who like rules. But also

468
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: if my mom just abandoned me in the middle of

469
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: high school because she was fucking a minor league baseball player,

470
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: I would be furious. Yeah. Well, and one of the

471
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 1: many conversations that Edward overhears or you know, tries to

472
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: very voyeuristically spy on, He's like, what's in Jacksonville? What's

473
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: what's your story? Tell me everything about it? I can't

474
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: figure you out. I just can't read you. Tell me everything,

475
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 1: and she's like, well, my mom stayed home with me,

476
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: but I could tell it made her unhappy, Like in

477
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: what world? But it doesn't. I'd rather be watching minor

478
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: league baseball than stay home with you, feel like daughter.

479
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: The typical teenager would use that to be like hard

480
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: or the ship out of it right, be like I

481
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: did this for my mom, and I deserve some attention

482
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: because look at what I'm doing with the sacrifice. And

483
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: that's not the story. No, it's like barely a plot point.

484
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: And it's like her mom pops up. I don't even know,

485
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 1: because it's not even like her mom ever provides new

486
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: information or Bella, and Bella doesn't really tell her anything.

487
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: It's just like two actors getting their SAG card. They're

488
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,479
Speaker 1: in a batting cage somewhere in Arizona, and and and

489
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 1: then one time the scene is interrupted by the fact

490
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 1: that Edward has been in her room for hours. Right,

491
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: so he doesn't have to know how to read her

492
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 1: mind if he's just watching her and listening to all

493
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: the words she says at all times. Okay, so that's

494
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 1: one of many very problematic things, is that she's the

495
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: only person who's thoughts he cannot read, because I guess

496
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: as a vampire you also have special powers to funk

497
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: that stupid thing. But he can simple yeah, but for

498
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: whatever reason, we find out later that Bella also has superpowers.

499
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: Everyone has special power. She just needs to become a

500
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: vampire to figure it out. Accepted a voice inside you,

501
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:17,959
Speaker 1: so he can't read her thoughts, and I think this

502
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: is part of what draws him to her, because he's like,

503
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: I have to figure you out. You're my new project.

504
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to make Bella a project. Well, it's it's

505
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: fair to say that the new girl in school in

506
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: a small town, she's new, she's different. I can't read

507
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: her thoughts. That is interesting, right, But it's it's the

508
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: crux of his interest in her that and he becomes

509
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: so grossly obsessed with it too, Like he goes way

510
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: too far with it. In fact, there's a scene where

511
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: he we're lamping. There's a scene where they go into

512
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: the woods and she's figured out that he's a vampire.

513
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: He confirms it. They go up this mountain and at

514
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: one point he like pins her against a rock wall,

515
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: puts both of his arms up, so she's basically trapped,

516
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: and he's like, I have to know what you're thinking.

517
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: Tell me what you're thinking all the time. And it's

518
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: so weird way to try to control someone like he

519
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 1: just he can't read her thoughts, so he's like, I

520
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: need to know what you're thinking. I must control you. Right,

521
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: But if we put that in the context of a

522
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: teenage girl who's never had a relationship before, it's like, oh,

523
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: here's a boy who really cares what I think. Again,

524
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: it's like this very dangerous precedent to set where teenage

525
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: boys are fucking morons obviously and don't understand how to

526
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: function around anyone. Yeah, right, the expert. I'm an educator.

527
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: I educate this fuck dumb. But but it's like, you know,

528
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: that's a very appealing I know when I was sixteen,

529
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, a boy who really wants to

530
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: know my innermost thoughts. Wow, I'll let him pin me

531
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: to a rock. And it's like, you know, ten years later,

532
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: obviously you're like, don't touch me and stay away from me.

533
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: But it's so fucking insidious and a bummer. Some right

534
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 1: after or right before he admits he's like, I've killed

535
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: people's right after it doesn't matter to me, and of you,

536
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that's not you. That scene is so crazy,

537
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: like that whole sequence and then he and then it's

538
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: in the big reveal. Wait, which one that scene where

539
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: after they've admitted everything, they've talked about what it means

540
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: to be a vampire, he takes her through the cloud

541
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: break we finally see the true Edward. Yeah, oh yeah,

542
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: where he That is such a weird real because if

543
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: you don't know that that is the exact reveal it's

544
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: coming in the books, it's like, what is he doing?

545
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: And he walks and it isn't like a dazzling like shing,

546
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: which is how I pictured there was a sound effect

547
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: though there wasn't when the sun hits my skin. I

548
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: was expecting listen not to criticize this amazing movie. I

549
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: wasting a bigger reveal that he was sparkly. If I

550
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: had not known and had been waiting with bated breath

551
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: for that to happen, I would be like what I said, Oh,

552
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: he's got a little body glitter. He goes to players

553
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: and he puts on his body glitters. You remember body glitter?

554
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: That was fun? Are you boss? You ever buy body glitter? Yeah?

555
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: I thought this tube of Victoria's secret body glitter that

556
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: I never wore. I don't know why. I was like,

557
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a sparkly person, like, that's not something I

558
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: would ever put on my body. Why did I buy this?

559
00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 1: And then I ended up throwing it away? We lived

560
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: together in college and I actually saw it and used

561
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: it once. It's like, oh my god, I'm glad someone

562
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 1: used us. The body glitter and he usually smells good

563
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: to five stars reviewing posthumously, irrevocably. That's my favorite adverb.

564
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: So we're not we're not blaming Bella. At the center

565
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: of the story, like, like Edwards medium baggage is he

566
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: hasn't figured out what it means to be a vampire, right.

567
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: He he knows what like popular culture tells him about

568
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: being this mean, evil vampire, but he's not like the others.

569
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: He's not like the other and he just he uses

570
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: Bella to figure it out. He's like figuring out his

571
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: morality and he's using this young seventeen year old to

572
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: do it. He's ruining her right. The other thing one

573
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: just well, fuck, I have a list of eight thousand

574
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: things I want to say, but one of them is

575
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: that it's so fucking creepy and weird to me and

576
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: should be to everybody that he is. So we learned

577
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: that he's turned into a vampire in nineteen eighteen hot,

578
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: which means he was probably born in nineteen hundred. He's

579
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: a trench warfare vampire, and he has gone through high

580
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: school presumably dozens of times. But he well, yeah, because

581
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: we see that all the I actually always remember. I'm like,

582
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: that's a actually a really cool art piece suit in

583
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: your house, And then I saw it this time, I'm like,

584
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: you know what, I stand by it. I like all

585
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: the caps. I like that kind of like I would

586
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: put it in my very fancy all glass home. Right,

587
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 1: don't throw any rocks around that house, the vampire house. Yeah, So, okay,

588
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: we don't know how vampires and they're like mental and

589
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: emotional maturity happens. Maybe when they turn into a vampire

590
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: it stops, or maybe as they age they developmentally age

591
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: like humans, so that he's a nine year old man inside,

592
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: but he's he's stays in like a seventeen year old body.

593
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: Either way, it's weird that he's alive for ninety years

594
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: and you would think has the emotional maturity of a

595
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: ninety year old and then it's still attracted to a

596
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: teenage girl. You're raising your hand, yes, Jamie, what would

597
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 1: you like to draw a parallel. Okay, have you seen

598
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: or read Tuch ever Lasting? No, that is the immortal

599
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: good text to text connection and thank you so much.

600
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: An educator's approval means the world. Um No, but the

601
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 1: Tych ever Lasting is the closest and non too inside

602
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: because I like Tuch ever Lasting much better, But the

603
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 1: Tych over Lasting book is way more fucked up because

604
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: it's like in a hundred year old hot seventeen year

605
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: old and he's like lusting after a ten year old,

606
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: kind of like Jacob Renesme style, if you will. But

607
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: in the movie they aged up so that it's someone

608
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: who was on the Disney Channel lusting after Rory Gilmore

609
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: a little bit older. But it's interesting because the way

610
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: that that story plays out as a sort of a

611
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: similar like it's a family who's drank from the Fountain

612
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: of Youth, and the whole time they discourage the object

613
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: of his affection, who is ninety years too young for

614
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: him but looks age appropriate. They discourage her from drinking

615
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: from the Fountain of youth and she doesn't, and then

616
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: at the end of this story we see a still

617
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: young hot Jesse something I forget his last name, drives

618
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,480
Speaker 1: up on his motorcycle and then he sees, you know,

619
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: the grave of Rory Gilmore. So in that story, it's

620
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: you know, it's more powerful because because she goes off

621
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: and she lives her life life and she does not

622
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: succumb to intense gas lighting from the object for refection.

623
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: And it's also like said that, you know, it's like

624
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: living forever may not be a great thing after all

625
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: and all that stuff. So anyways, that's the closest parallel

626
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: to this story that I can find. And there's not

627
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: any gas lighting in that because they're always like, don't

628
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: do it, and then she doesn't. So maybe it's just

629
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:27,359
Speaker 1: a more boring story. Yeah. I don't think Edwards that strong, right,

630
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: he would never be able to control himself. He's a

631
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: raw dog control himself his own personal brand of Heroin.

632
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: Just for all my Tug ever Lasting heads out there,

633
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: it's Jonathan Jackson who played the Hot guy and Tuck

634
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 1: ever Lasting. They also go to the top of a

635
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 1: mountain to discuss eternal life in that movie. If you're

636
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: living forever and you're an innocent teenage on janu you're

637
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to go to the top of a natural

638
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 1: formation to hash it out. That's a new movie rule.

639
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: Oh man, too bad. We already have the loftist test.

640
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 1: The lattictist hold strong, baldest woman in charge doesn't apply

641
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: to this movie. I don't think no. I'd say the Well,

642
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: the baldest woman in this movie is Alice, and she's

643
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: the I would say she's the best female character because

644
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: she kills someone. Yeah, she rips it that dude's head off.

645
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,280
Speaker 1: I loved that kind. Yeah, she's a real hot topic

646
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: assistant manager. Hey, really quick? Are we to believe that

647
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: Bella was also wearing sleeves and jeans in Phoenix the

648
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: whole time? Because we see her at the beginning like

649
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: I live in Phoenix, Arizona. It's hot. And then we

650
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 1: see her in like two layers of sleeves and jeans

651
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: because she's awkward, right, she can't show her shoulders, she's

652
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: too awkward. She would she'd melt. But I'm just like,

653
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: how did you live in Phoenix for your whole life

654
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: with your chode of a mother. I don't understand your Well,

655
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: that's why she gets kicked out. Remember that hilarious joke

656
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: that everyone like cracks the over. Yeah, the scene where

657
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 1: the fucking Mike Chode, who's like, oh my good Isabella right,

658
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: and she's like just Bella. That's the closest to a

659
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: real high school student that we see. I think, so yeah,

660
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 1: Like that's like he's a Chode in a way that

661
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I would know a choked like that.

662
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: Anna Kendrick plays a high school or in this movie,

663
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: well those she's like or someone says in that scene,

664
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: you're from Arizona, are't she supposed to be like super tan?

665
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: And then Bella I'm just like, I guess that's why

666
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: they kicked me out, and they both ha ha ha ha.

667
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: We have d cups, but we're not cool, Like grow up.

668
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 1: If you have d cups in high school, you're cool

669
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: dealing it. Let's talk about all these scenes that happened

670
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: in the science room where when Bella first walks in.

671
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: By the way, the science teacher's name is Mr Molina.

672
00:38:54,600 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: I know, but it would have been a perfect opportunity. Well,

673
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: you continue to talk about science, I'll figure out what

674
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: offered Molina was I figure out what he was doing instead.

675
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure the part was offered to him because that

676
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: could have been homage. Here's what he might have been doing.

677
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: He might have been filming The Ten Commandments playing Ramsey

678
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: is the Pharaoh. Obviously, he might have been providing the

679
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: voice of Professor Jeffries and chill out Scooby doo wait

680
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: chill acts, though not that what they meant. He might

681
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: have been in pre production to be the narrator in

682
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 1: Angels and Demons in two thousand and nine. He was

683
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: probably filming The Pink Panther too. Probably he's busy all

684
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: the time, all right. So she walks into the science room,

685
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: there's a fan blowing, a gust of her scent travels

686
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 1: to edwards nostrils. He borderline pukes, and then she sits

687
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: down beside him, and he has a hissy fit the

688
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: whole time, and then as soon as the bell rings

689
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: he storms out. And Okay, to be fair, she's like

690
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: I was to confront him, to figure out what his

691
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: problem was, Like, she wanted to know what the funk

692
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,879
Speaker 1: his problem was. I'm not that brave. She doesn't get

693
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: a chance, Well, she kind of doesn't get a chance

694
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 1: to do it. Yeah, she does, because the next time

695
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: they're in the science room together, they're looking at the

696
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: onion slides on the microscope, which is a good Shrek reference.

697
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: Onions have layers. We know it, we love it. Where's

698
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 1: the where's the Shrek episode? Right? Where is it? It's coming.

699
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: But that's a fun scene because she looks into the

700
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: microscope and she's like, it's pro phase, and Edwards like, actually,

701
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: can I look at it just a double check your

702
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: work because I don't believe you more gas lining, and

703
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: then he looks into it and then he's like, it's

704
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 1: pro phase. Man's plaining it's unfair because he's been seventeen

705
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: for ninety years, so he's done this experiment for probably

706
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: fifty times. Show off somehow. Yeah, It's like, yeah, I've

707
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: I've got this, I've got this. She so he Man's

708
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: plains to her, but then to her credit, she says, yeah,

709
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: like I said, the thing is like Bella. God. I

710
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: feel Bella has the agency of an above average teenage girl,

711
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: but she's shot down by the narrative repeatedly until she

712
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: is just trapped. Like when I was sixteen, there's no

713
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: way I would challenge anything on anyone any time because

714
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 1: I was wearing a back brace and I was afraid

715
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: of everyone. Like can you imagine confronting a cute boy

716
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: at sixteen, Like that takes fucking guts, especially if you're

717
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: new somewhere, Like I feel like she's displaying above average,

718
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: Like I'm going to figure this out. And then Stephanie Meyer,

719
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: fucking evil puppet master, is like, how can we destroy

720
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: this young girl's agency. She's like, what happened in the

721
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: parking lot? I know what I saw? And then Edwards like,

722
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: no one will believe you, literally, no one will believe you.

723
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: But it's romantic. But it's romantic, it's romantic gas lighting. Hey,

724
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: wait a minute, though, Bella, so she knows all about

725
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: prophase and Anna Face and all that stuff. I would

726
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: call her a woman stem. She is a woman who

727
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 1: has heard of STEM. Yeah, she's a better folly a woman.

728
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: Yet she is a child, and that's part of the problem. True.

729
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,800
Speaker 1: And then oh, but in that scene, in that prophase

730
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: and a Phase scene, we see Edward effectively defeat Bellot too,

731
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: because at the end of that scene she stops checking

732
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,880
Speaker 1: his work, Like the last beat of that He's like,

733
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: do you want to check? She's like I'm good, No,

734
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: and then she's like I trust to. I was like,

735
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: he's a million he knows the difference between prophase and

736
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: I mean, which is better than I can say? Chemistry

737
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 1: times there's there's part of than me. And now I'm insecure.

738
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: I made a list of different times that Edward nags

739
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 1: or gaslights her, and the time codes because it happens

740
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: so frequently. Twenty minutes and he saves her from the

741
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: car crash. Twenty four minutes, He gaslights her, saying, oh's

742
00:42:57,239 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 1: right next to you. No one's gonna believe what you say.

743
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: Can't you just thank me and get over it? Fuck off?

744
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: Thirty minutes. If you were smart, you'd stay away from me.

745
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: What if I'm not the hero? What if I'm the

746
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: bad guy? Fifty minutes, He says Bella, what do we eat?

747
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: A k you? She says, you won't hurt me. At

748
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: this point, she's fully gaslighted, sher agency is dead for

749
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: the remainder of the series. Well, she's irrevocably in love

750
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: with minutes and I've never wanted a humans blood so

751
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: much in my life. Bella says, I trust you. Edwards says,

752
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: don't get there. What are you doing? Oh? I still

753
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 1: don't know if I can control myself. Bella says, I

754
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: know you can she's kind of gaslighting him, but she's sixteen.

755
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 1: There's God. It's the same disturbing interaction over and over

756
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 1: seventy minutes and Bella, I'm not scared of you, Edward.

757
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: You shouldn't have said that, and then he kidnapped her

758
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: with the spider monkey, with this sin and then God,

759
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: and then seventy five minutes and Bella has a scene

760
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: that doesn't pass the actual test in a very infuriating

761
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: way with her mom who is waiting to fuck her

762
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: chowed husband. After he gets out of the batting changes

763
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: and then he comes out, you know, he comes out

764
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: of the shadows and she's like, oh, you were here,

765
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, I've been watching the Sleep for months.

766
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: And that's when I stopped counting the times he was

767
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 1: gaslighting her because it happens so much and this movie

768
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: is very long. Well, that's an interesting scene because the

769
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: first time you see Bella wake up and he's stalking

770
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: her in her bedroom and then she turns dream She's like,

771
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: that was the first night I dreamt of Edward Culent.

772
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: So it's played off. It's like, okay, we used the

773
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: audience think, okay, maybe that was a dream, and then

774
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: when you see that scene again and he admits to

775
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: sneaking into her room and watching her sleep four months,

776
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that wasn't a dream. And then and

777
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: then she's like, all right, time to hook up kiss me.

778
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: Honestly though, this, uh, I almost get it. There was

779
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 1: another when I was very young, there was another vampire

780
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: book series called Cirque to Freak. You guys remember this now.

781
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: I'm not familiar with that as an educator. This is

782
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: a sexy vampire be signed about a vampire named I

783
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: think his name was Darren, and he was thank you.

784
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: I wrote the book, but Darren was the object of

785
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 1: my affection. I was like a little bit younger, it's

786
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: like maybe twelve or thirteen, and I didn't know how

787
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: my vagina informed my thoughts yet. So I was reading

788
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 1: the Cirque to Freaks books and it's about this like

789
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: young boy who was turned into a vampire by a

790
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 1: circuit sounder and goes on the road with these freaks

791
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: and he's he's a road vampire. He's a road vai,

792
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: like a road comic. But I feel like he really

793
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: informed my current lifestyle. He rode tests his vampire. But

794
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: in any case, I had a huge crush on him.

795
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: And in that book series, there was a point where

796
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: he had a crush on a girl and he would

797
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: just like hide around her in various places. And so

798
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,800
Speaker 1: I had like these weird cabinets. I grew up in

799
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: a house with no doors, and and instead of closets,

800
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: we had these weird cabinets built into the walls. And

801
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: so I would imagine that Darren the vampire would hide

802
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: in the cabinet to hide. I wanted him to hide.

803
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 1: So when I see Edward emerged from behind a curtain,

804
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I get it. I wanted Darren in my cabinet.

805
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: In vampire practice, to hide and wait for your prey,

806
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 1: right for kids on them, though only when you're in love.

807
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,479
Speaker 1: Get in my cabinet. It's about how about that scene

808
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: where Edwards like everything about me draws you in. I'm

809
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 1: so handsome and attractive and my voice and my sin

810
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: over yourself. And then he's like, but that's if I

811
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 1: needed it, is if I couldn't outrun you. He's like

812
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: dashing from tree to tree, hite me off. And then

813
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: she's like, I don't care, I trust you you. Oh,

814
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: here's an the fun moment where um, it's a scene

815
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: where he's like, what's in Jacksonville because he had been

816
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: leering at her and listening. Sorry, I just watched you

817
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 1: pour a lot of water out of your month having trouble.

818
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble. I didn't eat for the first time

819
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: until two minutes before this, and then I had a

820
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: mis heart. So I think that my I'm physically compromising. Okay,

821
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: So that was talking her chode friend Mike about going

822
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, and meanwhile Edward is standing in the background

823
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: listening to everything she's saying and just leering at her.

824
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: The next scene, Edwards like, what's in Jacksonville? And then

825
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: she trips a little bit and he goes, she's awkward.

826
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: Can you at least watch where you're walking? Yeah, Like

827
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: for the first half of the movie, he's so mean

828
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: to her. Well, and that also enforces an age old

829
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: thing that my mom told me was true and that

830
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: I feel like every parent and maybe still do like

831
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: they in four is this dangerous? Like if a boy's

832
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 1: mean to you, that means he likes you, you know,

833
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: like if someone's being repeatedly aggressive and rude to you,

834
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: which and it's usually like with younger kids, but they're

835
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: like if they if they're being mean to you, it

836
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: means they like And it's usually boys towards girls, except

837
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: unless you're hell good, attacky, and then you if you're

838
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: hell good, attacky, you're fine. Well sure, and yeah, like

839
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: nagging is a common flirtation technique. However, it's usually like,

840
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: let's say she trips a little bit a flirtatious way. Yeah,

841
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: well he'd be like, He's like, oh jeez, at least

842
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 1: launch where you're walking. He but he like, don't yell.

843
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 1: That's a good rule of thumb. Don't yell at the

844
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,840
Speaker 1: object of your affection. Again, what's at the center of

845
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 1: this is the fact that Edward cannot deal with the

846
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: fact that he's a vampire. He wants to be a

847
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: good person, but he has this this label, this identity,

848
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: and he doesn't know what to do with it, right,

849
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: But he's not true to that. About forty five minutes

850
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: into the movie, everything switches and all of a sudden,

851
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: he's like, all right, let's date. Let's do this. I

852
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: know that I'm a bad guy, but I want to

853
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: put you next to this bad guy that I am. Yeah,

854
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: like that apple scene, right, where he says he's just

855
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: trying to like that symbolism for something I couldn't tell.

856
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: He's just trying to get information out of her, and

857
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: she says, you know, your mood swings are kind of

858
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: giving me whiplash, like completely acknowledges that he is just

859
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: so back and forth. And then as soon as they

860
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: start dating, he develops a personality all of a sudden,

861
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: and he's like, I'm gonna jump on your truck and

862
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:38,399
Speaker 1: and she's like, can you really pretend to be human neighbors?

863
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: It's funny. So there's just flirting and fun. I like

864
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: the scene where they try to kiss and he's like,

865
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: I would I fuck you do that. The sexual aspect

866
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: of the relationship is so problematic. It gets worse and worse,

867
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: where he's like, if I do you die, I'm super

868
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: strong so I could kill you. I want to bite

869
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 1: you all this this is what every man is told

870
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: me that if you'd pass away. But um, but yeah,

871
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: that's no, that's no good. But the scene where they

872
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: do hook up and they can and I will say

873
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: for me, the sparks were flying. Oh there's something there.

874
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 1: I was like, that was a good, like story aside

875
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: a good movie kiss. It's hot. That's a hot kiss,

876
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: but then you know, but then you remember the horrible

877
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: story that's taking place. The aftermath of that is really

878
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: disturbing to me, because they kiss and it's hot. They

879
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: go from like vertical to horizontal really fast, and you're like,

880
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: it's getting exactly and then he's like, stop it, and

881
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: he throws himself off at her, and then she's sort

882
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: of like in her bed, very in a very vulnerable

883
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 1: like she's in her underwear. She's like kind of hunched

884
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: over it, and she's just like she's awkward, very unco

885
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: what it's like. It's clear that she feels ashamed because

886
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: she's like, I'm sorry, he said he told her to

887
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: stop it. Yeah, and then or I don't like, is

888
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: it him telling himself to stop it or is it

889
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: telling her? It's hard to say, but she's like, I'm sorry,

890
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: and she's put in this position where like she then

891
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: feels shame for like trying to be sexual. And it

892
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: made me feel weird not to come to the rescue

893
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: of Edward Colin. But at least he made his needs

894
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: known in the moment and stopped a situation he was

895
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: not prepared to enter for abstinence. What's what's going on there?

896
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,959
Speaker 1: There's definitely some sort of abstinence thing because they wait

897
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 1: for a marriage in the series, don't they Let me

898
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: see if I remember right, JT. You'll know Kaitlyn, You'll

899
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: know you guys will she Is she a vampire? Before

900
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: he can fuck her? Or does he? I think he

901
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: focks her. Well, she's still mortal on their the night

902
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: that they get to the island, right, but then it's

903
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: like there's like restraints, invaulved isn't there, There's like something. Well,

904
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 1: she wakes up the next morning and she's black and blue.

905
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: He like he got really aggressive. They break the beds

906
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: and then the maid comes in in the morning. He's like,

907
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: what the yeah, call the police throw on an island.

908
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: Something disturbing has happened here. I vaguely remember that, and

909
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 1: by the time I read it, I knew it was

910
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: not okay. I'm glad that we at least the first

911
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: movie there's at least a little bit of wiggle room

912
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: where there's at least some parts of the movie that

913
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: might be construed as relatable for someone if they were

914
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: a teenager or a young adult. In two thousand and eight.

915
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: As the book go on, you're just like this just

916
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: spirals out and it gets fucking weird after she wakes

917
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: up black and blue on is las Man during the honeymoon.

918
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: Is that really what it's called? Yes? After his mother

919
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: and then his adopted mother who's younger than he is.

920
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's so upset with himself for hurting her

921
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 1: so badly that the rest of the honeymoon they just

922
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: like play chess. They aren't allowed to touch, but once

923
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: when she's a vampire they can find. They have sex

924
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: all the time. The first month, they move into a

925
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: house just for fucking because it's so loud, just like

926
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: the baseball scene, but different funck house. Are you serious?

927
00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: I'm very serious. I don't know if this happens in

928
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: the movie, but it definitely happens in the book. They

929
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: fucked so loud they need a house. They the Cullens,

930
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: have a house on site that's like a mile away.

931
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: They can't no one could be within a mile of

932
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 1: them because they fucked so loud. That sounds tight, But

933
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: the road we take to get to the the isolated

934
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: house is dark, right alright, So some alternatives. I kind

935
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: of wish that this movie was more about Bella and

936
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: her gay best friend Jacob. How would the movie have

937
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: been different if that was the the a story. You know,

938
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: Edwards just like the b in the background, like who

939
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: cares about the vampire? Well, Jacobs barely in this movie. Unfortunately,

940
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: I know I forgot how little he was because I

941
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: was really like looking forward to look Aunt Taylor Lawtner's wig.

942
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,240
Speaker 1: How little he wasn't it. He's in that great scene

943
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: where um Pilla's like, what did your friend mean about

944
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: the Cullens don't come here? And he's like, oh, you

945
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: heard that that line of dialogue that was very audible

946
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 1: and that everyone was like everyone in the all of

947
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: her friends to stare for a second. Yeah, He's like,

948
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: oh you caught that. Yeah, every fon king person caught that.

949
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: Or another weird scene. I mean, all the scenes between

950
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: Bellett and Jacob are first of all, less weird than

951
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,439
Speaker 1: any scene between Belle and Edward, more dynamic than any

952
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: scene between Bellett and Edward. But also there's always like

953
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: a weird uncanny valley quality to it, where it's towards

954
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: the end where Jacob shows up, walks out of the

955
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: woods or something, and he's like my dad said me

956
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: the spy on you like say it paid me twenty

957
00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 1: dollars to talk to you. And then she's just like, well,

958
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: you better go get that. I was like, this is

959
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: extremely suspect, vaguely dressed up for problem. He's wearing like

960
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: a nice button. But he doesn't go in. He goes

961
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: to a different he doesn't go to this in the reservation. Well,

962
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 1: then day isn't he's really earning that twenty dollars. Like,

963
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: I gotta like the part you went shopping before he came.

964
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: How far does twenty dollars going forks Washington cheese? So far?

965
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: For years? Different time? Well, he's like, my dad wants

966
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: me to tell you to break up and stay away

967
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 1: from your boyfriend. And then Edwards shows up and he

968
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: was like get here, I'll take it from here. Like

969
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: and just another way that he controls here, doesn't let

970
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 1: her talk to any other men. He's just always, oh,

971
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about the scene. Well, Everard does Edward know about?

972
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,680
Speaker 1: I forgot? Does Eward know about the werewolves? But Jacob

973
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: doesn't know yet. He's just like, I'm just wearing a wig.

974
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: Well he knows. I think he knows that he's descended

975
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: from like the wolf clan. I think he knows. He

976
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: thinks it's a story though, right, yeah he does, they said,

977
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,919
Speaker 1: because there's that scene on the beach where he basically says, yeah,

978
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: it's just a weird Washington thing. You're just like okay, sure, yeah,

979
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: but like his elders turned into wolves, Like wouldn't he

980
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: know about that? Because Act one, remember all of his friends,

981
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: all of his like reservation friends, are like going off

982
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: and being weird and getting sick. And he's like, I

983
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: don't know why I'm all alone. I haven't hit all

984
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 1: my friends. I want to get sick, like get mono

985
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,400
Speaker 1: and disappear and then come back. And he realized it

986
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,880
Speaker 1: was like a secretly it's like maintained as a secret

987
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:02,959
Speaker 1: until you start going what a horrible way to conduct, Like, Hey,

988
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: a crazy thing is going to happen to you, but

989
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: you can't know about it until it's actually happening to you.

990
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: I don't. That's how I got my period. No one

991
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: told you you were going to get your period. I

992
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: didn't really know what it was. I thought I shopped myself. Anyways,

993
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: that's sorry for another day. Yeah I did. I was like,

994
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 1: that's weird. I thought I would have did you know, really,

995
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: like your mom didn't tell you we were we were defunded.

996
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: We didn't get sex fed at my school, and so

997
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 1: I thought I shipped myself, And I'm like, can I

998
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 1: no longer? I thought that, like my sphincter was un

999
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: or something. But it turns out this is a woman

1000
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: and worked. Okay, so maybe it's not so unbelievable. I

1001
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:46,439
Speaker 1: can relate with Jacob the whorwolf. Why got it? Let's

1002
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: talk about the scene where she goes to Port Angels

1003
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: and those creepy dudes follow her and pray on her. So,

1004
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, she sort of fights back. They're like, hey,

1005
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: pretty lady, where are you going? And she's like, get

1006
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: away from me, don't touch me. Edward shows up saves her,

1007
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: which happens a bunch of times. Don't worry a mentalist

1008
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: of all the times, and he has to save her,

1009
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 1: but as JT You pointed out, I'm an education puts.

1010
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: He takes her out of that one dangerous situation and

1011
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: then puts her immediately into another dangerous situation because he's

1012
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: driving extremely recklessly. Get a bad boy. He yells at

1013
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: her about how she always puts herself in these dangerous

1014
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,320
Speaker 1: situations as you're so awkward. She's always following and then

1015
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: pulls right out in the middle of traffic. It's like

1016
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: beebe like everyone's just yelling at him. And then the

1017
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: aftermath of that scene is when they like show up

1018
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 1: at the restaurant, and I love the restaurants. So it's

1019
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 1: so restaurant, so weird. I love it. So she's like,

1020
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 1: you gotta give me some answers. She's demanding to know

1021
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: what's going on right, still being she should not have

1022
00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 1: let her friends leave first of all, but that's a

1023
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: that's a novice mistake I could see myself making. I

1024
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 1: was I was wriends. We're so mad when she disappeared

1025
00:57:57,880 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: for twelve hours, but then when edwards they're they're like,

1026
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: they're like, we better get going. So she's like, did

1027
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: you follow me? And he's like, I just feel very

1028
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: protective of you. This is okay, Listen, sometimes someone's gonna

1029
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:16,280
Speaker 1: stare at you during your math test and you're gonna

1030
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: be like, I'm just being protected. I'm kidding him. But

1031
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: it's so frustrating that she keeps being like, tell me

1032
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: what the funk is going on? And he's just like,

1033
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm protecting you, and then she keeps following her. And

1034
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: this is also the scene where we finally get some

1035
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 1: answers and he reveals that he can read minds right,

1036
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: and then he can't read her right, and then the reaction, Oh,

1037
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: she's like, is there something wrong with me? You can't

1038
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: read my mind? What's wrong with it? Right? So automatically,

1039
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: I'm the person that's messed up in this situation right

1040
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: where you were just like I'm a mind reader and

1041
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm I'm sorry. But here's the thing. I

1042
00:58:57,320 --> 00:58:59,160
Speaker 1: don't want to relate to this movie in any way,

1043
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: but as I say, exteen or seventeen year old girl,

1044
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 1: well you have to put yourself in the yeah, like

1045
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: when I you know, you're very self conscious. You don't

1046
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: have a lot of self esteem at that age usually,

1047
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: So I think it was it was actually kind of

1048
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: like humanizing a bit too. I found it believable that

1049
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: she'd be like, that's wrong with me. Teenagers of either

1050
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 1: gender are easily manipulated. True, I know this. I was

1051
00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: just doing it to a teenager this morning. I mean, well,

1052
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: it's just him being feeling so protective of her and

1053
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: controlling of HER's just one of the many ways he's

1054
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,880
Speaker 1: abusive toward her. And backtracking a little bit to the

1055
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: scene where they're all at the beach that there is

1056
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: a point where it's the friend who isn't Ana Kendrick, Angela, Angela,

1057
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: she so Angela wants to ask Eric Eric, angel wants

1058
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: to ask Eric to the prompt and Bella And this

1059
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: part literally infuriates me because I know how unfair this

1060
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: whole serious is too women. Where Bella says take control.

1061
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,479
Speaker 1: You're a strong and independent woman, and I'm like, where

1062
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: do you get off? You're about to go vampire man.

1063
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: There's a few moments in this movie where it's like,

1064
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 1: there's Bella's last stand as a as a person with

1065
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 1: any sort of agency or opinions. Bella initially do that

1066
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: a lot in the beginning when Angela first meets Bella,

1067
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 1: Angela's like, hey, I work for the newspaper and I'm

1068
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: just so tired of talking about eating disorders. And Bella

1069
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,680
Speaker 1: is like, what about the boys swim team spidos and

1070
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: and she was like, yeah, you're really good at advice. Yeah, honestly,

1071
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: which here this is a controversial opinion because obviously Mike

1072
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: is a chode, but I think she should have just

1073
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: employed the catch all Jamie Loftus solution of just date

1074
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: Mike so that she can fix him. No, just to

1075
01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 1: kill some time and give the vampire time to get

1076
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: the funk out of her way and not ruin her life.

1077
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,560
Speaker 1: Better to have a chowd for a couple of months

1078
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 1: than be immortal and have a baby that's eating you.

1079
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: Well again, I think she should have dated Jacob. Jacob

1080
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: is her best friend. Jacob. Do you think they had

1081
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: a report? They know they I agree, But do you

1082
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: think he was gay? That first movie? I prayed I

1083
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: don't even believe in God, and I prayed God, he's

1084
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: a great and then Stephanie were ruins him by making

1085
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 1: him a pedophile. I'm cutting off that wig. What did

1086
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 1: you say? Oh, he's so handsome. There's a looking Adam.

1087
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: Another fun scene that Bella. She's like, why did you

1088
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: hate me so much? And he's like, I did, but

1089
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: only for making me want you so badly, which is

1090
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: Victim't blame me. Oh my god, what you said? And

1091
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: it's like, if you weren't so so fucking I won,

1092
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm your blood. I'm good again. It's Edward has a

1093
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 1: problem inside. He's trying to figure out who he is.

1094
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: He hasn't seen that excuse, and he puts it on Bella.

1095
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: It's not definitely not fair. The scene where he makes

1096
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: her say the word vampire, see it vampire, vampire, and

1097
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: then he's not even a good line read no cousin vampire.

1098
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: He grabs her arm and yanks her and literally pulls

1099
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: her through No, no, I trust you, my little spider monkey.

1100
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: And then seconds later he gives the line, so the

1101
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: lion fell in love with the lamb, and that's the like,

1102
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: that's when he decides to fall in love with her.

1103
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: That's it. Oh the scene where they're falling in love

1104
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: and there's fog and Edward Collins flaming the piano, it's

1105
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: actually I remember you're just like ow. The director was like,

1106
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 1: why not? Female director? To add insult to injury, Catherine

1107
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: Hardwick directed this movie. Woman director, female woman screenwriter, adapted

1108
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: by a book written by a woman. Should be a winner,

1109
01:03:18,320 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: should be here we are. But yeah, everyone's the wrong

1110
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:28,680
Speaker 1: woman and they found a bunch of bad ones. Let's

1111
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: talk about act three whenever. This movie ends great. Finally,

1112
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:38,440
Speaker 1: Bella goes after James to be a martyr, to be

1113
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: like again. Right, of course Edward has to step in

1114
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: and save her. One of many times he saves her,

1115
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 1: so we've got saves her from the van, saves her

1116
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 1: from the creepy dudes, and port Angelis, saves her from James.

1117
01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 1: He steps in to save her. There's vampire venom all

1118
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,280
Speaker 1: up in her. So she's lying on the floor. She

1119
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,439
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything. She's supposed to be the protagonist, she's

1120
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: the hero of this story. She doesn't do anything to

1121
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:10,440
Speaker 1: resolve the conflict. She's rendered completely inactive and totally passive,

1122
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: and she doesn't do anything to determine the outcome of

1123
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: the story, which is not how storytelling works. How do

1124
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: you know so much about storytelling? Oh, it's just because

1125
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 1: I have a master's degree in screenwriting from Boston University.

1126
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: Alfred Molina is to Jamie as screenwriting degree is to Caitlin.

1127
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 1: That was one of the questions on my g r E,

1128
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: which I did have to take to go to grad

1129
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 1: school for his screenwriting. Man, what year did Alfred Molena

1130
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 1: joined the Royal Shakespeare Company? Seven? Okay, so the protagonist

1131
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: of this that's my security question. The protagonist in this movie,

1132
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: in her most dire moment, is paralyzed. Yeah, right, well

1133
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: that this kind of reminds me to just bring Alfred

1134
01:04:55,560 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: back into it, Freddie Sorry, um of sort of that

1135
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 1: one an off moment in Spiderman two at the climactic

1136
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: scene where Mary Jane makes one attempts to hit a

1137
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 1: blow in the villain and it is just ceremoniously thrown

1138
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: to the side. And that's pretty much what happens to Bella.

1139
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: She she makes the choice to go. She we see

1140
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: her making a choice. Things are bad, but at least

1141
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: you know, you're like, all right, she's making a decision.

1142
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,800
Speaker 1: It's bad, but it's well, it's a stupid as hell

1143
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: choice because she's not equipped to fight these vampires you

1144
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,480
Speaker 1: know who is the other vampires who she's friends with now,

1145
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 1: But she makes a choice, and that happens so rarely already.

1146
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 1: So it's like at that point I was like, I

1147
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,520
Speaker 1: know what happens, but that is misleading and that maybe

1148
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: she'll do something. And then she does make like one

1149
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: attempt to go against what was like, what were we

1150
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:51,440
Speaker 1: calling him the sniffer. She tries to get the sniffer

1151
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: and then he sniff, he's he sniffs her right to

1152
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: the side. She's she's done. He touches her leg and

1153
01:05:57,320 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 1: it breaks right and you're just like, well, there goes

1154
01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 1: the protagonist. She's done. So God, it was just so

1155
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: annoying that she is completely ineffective in doing anything to

1156
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,960
Speaker 1: determine It's a moment in the story. It's a big

1157
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,960
Speaker 1: moment for the relationship though, between Bella and Edward. Remember,

1158
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 1: she's bleeding profusely, and Alice can't control herself. She might

1159
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:20,080
Speaker 1: like bite off her head at any time, and that's

1160
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 1: why she did just rip off someone else's Carlyle sends

1161
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: her off to actually do some damage, and that's when

1162
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 1: Edward learns about himself that he won't eat her because

1163
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 1: he loves her so much and he doesn't want her

1164
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: to die. But I know it's so romantic. Well, and

1165
01:06:37,240 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: then the scene after that when she's when Bella is

1166
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: in the hospital, her mom's like, what, you don't want

1167
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 1: to move to Phoenix again? You want to stay in

1168
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 1: Forks with hot ass Charlie Swan, Well, okay, and then

1169
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: she leaves. Let's just say as Charlie Swan and then Edward,

1170
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: who had been pretending to be asleep because guess what,

1171
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: he doesn't need to sleep. Great, I bet you get

1172
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,680
Speaker 1: so much done, except you don't because you just go

1173
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,760
Speaker 1: to high school. Exactly. You don't have to go to

1174
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: high school. You could just stay inside. Rob is classically

1175
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: trained as an actor in Sleeping. He's really good. I

1176
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 1: believed it classically trains Sleeper. Well, okay, so the scene

1177
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 1: in um the hospital whenever Edward's like, you know what,

1178
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:27,320
Speaker 1: I don't maybe we shouldn't be together. I'm putting you

1179
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 1: in too much danger Allah spider Man, but She's like,

1180
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: I can't live without you, baby. We gotta get one

1181
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:43,960
Speaker 1: last infuriating moment in there where he's like, I've treated

1182
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 1: you shitty this entire movie, and now I'm saying that

1183
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't be together, and she's just like, no,

1184
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: but I'm irreflacably in love with you, irrevocably there. I mean,

1185
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: there are consequences to being with Edward right, Like, she's

1186
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: literally broken after this fight. Um, she's broken up with

1187
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: her dad. After spending months trying to fix this relationship

1188
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: that she hasn't had since she was four or whatever,

1189
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: she has to lie to him. What she says that

1190
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,840
Speaker 1: was a painful scene to watch. She really breaks his

1191
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 1: heart with like they both do a really good job.

1192
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to end up like mom just stuck here, right,

1193
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:18,839
Speaker 1: And he's like, I am boring, that's all she's implying.

1194
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:22,759
Speaker 1: It's like, you're such a drag dad um really quickly

1195
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,080
Speaker 1: on the subject of Catherine Hardwick, because it is extremely

1196
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: difficult and was relatively historic at the time for a

1197
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: female director in two thousand and eight to be given

1198
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: the reins to this massive blockbuster. Her previous directorial history

1199
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 1: prior to this included a movie I used to love

1200
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: that I would probably not love as much if I

1201
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 1: revisited now, called Thirteen. It came out in two thousand

1202
01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: three before I was thirteen, so I was like, this

1203
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: is what I have to look forward to. And it's

1204
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: like young girls fucking and doing drugs and messing their

1205
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 1: lives up. But anyways, that was like her big debut

1206
01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: and and she graduated out of that started getting bigger

1207
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: Hollywood gigs, gets Twilight does almost every installment, I don't

1208
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: think she does the last one. And then just speaking

1209
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: to women in Hollywood in general, since Twilight this massively

1210
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:25,120
Speaker 1: for all of its shortcomings, of which there are many.

1211
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: For all of its massive success, she has had very

1212
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: little major release work since then, which I think is

1213
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 1: a testament she sorry not to correct her man's plain, Um,

1214
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:44,759
Speaker 1: you are my least favorite man in the one. Uh.

1215
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:49,439
Speaker 1: New Moon was directed by Chris Wentz, so not not her,

1216
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: but she well maybe she was was directed by David Slade.

1217
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,400
Speaker 1: Breaking Dawn was directed by Bill Condon, so it seems

1218
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 1: like it was all men after this first one. Wait

1219
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 1: a second, Okay, So yeah they didn't. It was a success.

1220
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 1: It was a huge success. It was a huge success.

1221
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: Oh okay, So she sorry, I was misreading that. Yeah,

1222
01:10:14,360 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: she dropped out of the New Moon sequel. She was

1223
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: offered the New Moon sequel but ended up not being

1224
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,920
Speaker 1: able to do it because of a scheduling thing, which

1225
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:26,759
Speaker 1: is like, Katherine, make it work, got it. It seems

1226
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:31,759
Speaker 1: as though the screenwriter, Melissa Rosenberg, did work on Slash

1227
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:36,960
Speaker 1: right most of the sequels, so she returned for the others.

1228
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: It's bizarre because yeah, if you look at Katherine Harberg's

1229
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: filmography since then, she didn't direct another movie for three

1230
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: years after the first Twilight and has only directed three

1231
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: movies total in the past ten years, so I'm ready

1232
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:54,920
Speaker 1: for her comeback. You know, right. She directed Lord of Dogtown,

1233
01:10:55,080 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 1: the skateboard movie for gran outline. Yeah skip that one.

1234
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. She also directed The Nativity Story

1235
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: that also, you know, let's not rule up the fact

1236
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 1: that maybe she's not a great director, but also crummy

1237
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: male directors getty second chances. Katherine Hardwick has not been

1238
01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: as fortunate, and it just feels worth mentioning. I can't

1239
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: speak to the quality of her work because you know, Lord,

1240
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 1: every movie that I'm thinking of that she's directed kind

1241
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 1: of sucks. I have a day dream where this story

1242
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,879
Speaker 1: isn't about Edward and Bella. It's about Bella and Charlie

1243
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: and a comeback story where a young daughter learns to

1244
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: love her dad again. And sure there's a vampire in

1245
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,040
Speaker 1: the background, but at the end of the day, Charlie

1246
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: really loves his daughter. You know, Charlie is so bad

1247
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,479
Speaker 1: at his job. He's a police officer and crime is

1248
01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: running rampant. There are other worldly creatures and most of

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Speaker 1: the time he's at a diner ordering food for Bella.

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01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,320
Speaker 1: He's like, she'll have this is not a jump Oh yeah,

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01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,440
Speaker 1: that's true, which like, what is this? He cal Hockley's

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01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:08,639
Speaker 1: orders her. You like, lamb right, sweepy, that's all right,

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01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: it's about time, you know. Yeah, he does make some

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01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 1: questionable choices with his career as the town police officer.

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01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 1: He's the chief of not even just like a random officer.

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01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,320
Speaker 1: He's the chief. So they're animal tax happening all around

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01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: town and he arms Bella with some mace you know,

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01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: the vampire stopper mace um. At one point after the

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01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,000
Speaker 1: field trip where Bella has a horrible time with Edward,

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Speaker 1: she comes home and he's already on his second beer

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Speaker 1: at lunch, and she immediately starts cleaning up after him.

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Speaker 1: She does. Yeah, so that's why I wanted that to

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01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: be the focus of the story. I understand why Bella's

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01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 1: mom left him, because he does seem to be a

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01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: bad at his job and be an alcohol However, both

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01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 1: parents are really horrible and like, it's so amazing that

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01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: Bella is alive. Hey, listen, if Robert Pattinson is raw dogging, hey,

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01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,320
Speaker 1: you're like, I wasn't raised right. There's a fun scene

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01:13:12,520 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 1: where they're like talking about going to prom and Bella

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01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,640
Speaker 1: is like, but I can't dance and Edward says, I

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01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: can always make you very romantic. And another moment where

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Speaker 1: she's not like the others was where he makes some

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01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 1: sort of numbers joke and then she's like, I don't

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01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:30,880
Speaker 1: need to know what the square root of pie is.

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01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh she is, she's a smart cookie, and

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01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 1: he's swoon and he's like, you know, or when she

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01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,840
Speaker 1: knows women in stem you are, and then when she

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01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 1: knows the name of a composer and she's like, oh, yeah,

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01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 1: he's really good, and then he's like, you know that

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01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: is and then he's like, I have to take out

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Speaker 1: my fog machine. I need to play your piano right now. Well,

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01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: that's one of my big problems with this movie, just

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01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: in a narrative sense, is that we don't really ever

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01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,720
Speaker 1: know why they like each other are except for the

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Speaker 1: fact that they're attracted to each other. But they're like,

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01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 1: but he's you're right, They're just both so devoid of

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Speaker 1: personality that like it's confusing why they like each other,

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01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:15,719
Speaker 1: Like what are they compatible about? Nothing? Well, Edward can't

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01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,040
Speaker 1: you know. He hears everyone's thoughts all the time, and

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01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: people are gross. Right, It's like sex, sex sex cats, right,

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01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: and like that should be annoying, right, So, like he

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01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: comes across young Bella and like, I get why it

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01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: would be enticing, but he paints this picture of like,

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01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: this is fate, this is destiny. We have to be

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01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: together right now, I have to stalk you. And that's

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01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: just not how it should have been. Well, like, if

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01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: he finds her intriguing that he doesn't have to listen

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01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,160
Speaker 1: to her thoughts all the time, I'm fine, I guess

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01:14:39,200 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 1: I get that. But then he demands to know what

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01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: she's thinking all the time. He's like, you're the only

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01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: person I can't read, so you need to tell me

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01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,600
Speaker 1: what you're thinking all the time. And then she's like

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:53,440
Speaker 1: and unfortunately, she's probably like, um, sex and cats. Unfortunately

1304
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: you have a blind spot. But I am a person

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01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: and thinking about sex and pats as well. But she's not.

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01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,519
Speaker 1: She's thinking about numbers and I don't want to dance.

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01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm awkward. One thing I do want to point out,

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01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: which does not redeem this movie in any way, but

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Speaker 1: I do like that there's pretty equal gender balance in

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Speaker 1: terms of about half the characters are women whose names

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01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: we know and have at least some role in the story.

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Speaker 1: Because a problem we come up with on the podcast

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Speaker 1: a lot is that there are hardly any women in

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Speaker 1: this whatever story we're talking about. And it's nice that

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:35,040
Speaker 1: Bella has some female friends. She's got Jess, she's got Angela,

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01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,240
Speaker 1: she's got Alice. They like develop more of a friendship

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Speaker 1: in the later movies and books, and she has a

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Speaker 1: relationship with her mom. So it's nice to see that

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01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,439
Speaker 1: there are some like female bonds. They have thoughts, they

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01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: all have opinions, they all have conflicts. Except for Victoria

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Speaker 1: the vampire. I think she's just trying to eat people.

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Speaker 1: But everyone else, well she gets made at the very

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Speaker 1: very end because she's that prom watching as vampires do.

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Speaker 1: She's no the blonde one. Is that Rosalie. She's a star.

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01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 1: Oh Nicky Reid. Uh, it's one of those directors and

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01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: now you know, bringing back the cast, get the gang

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Speaker 1: back together. But Victoria is one of the evil vampires ladies,

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01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 1: the one the last person you see in the movie

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01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: for some reason, because well she was with she was

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01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:31,479
Speaker 1: dating James, whose head gets ripped off, kissed and she's mad.

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: She's like, you've ripped off my friend's head. If for

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01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 1: I loved this hip for so she has a personal

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01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:42,840
Speaker 1: vendetta against Bella now, which becomes the story. It was real.

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01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't just like a teenage romance where they just

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01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:46,519
Speaker 1: like sort of like the way each other looked like

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01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: they like they were together for a while. They were

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Speaker 1: as vampires do. Does anyone have any final thoughts about

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01:16:53,479 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 1: the Have you gotten three or seven pages of notes? So? Yeah,

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01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 1: overprepared because I'm a type a educator. I think I

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01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 1: loved this movie ten years ago because I didn't know

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01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,880
Speaker 1: what it meant to be a feminist, and I didn't

1342
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: know what it meant to love myself or love another person.

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01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: And now I am sort of a feminist and I

1344
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 1: myself yeah, I mean I have some t shirts what

1345
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:20,360
Speaker 1: the Future is Female? Check me out on Twitter. Um.

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01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 1: But now I have a good sense of what it

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01:17:22,439 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: means to be in a stable, normal, respectful relationship. And

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01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: I can look back and say, this was a fun

1349
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: movie to pre Game two before I went out to

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01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:33,320
Speaker 1: the club. But I don't think that it's a very

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01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 1: positive film, and I don't I wouldn't recommend it to

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01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 1: any of my students, thank you. I think that that

1353
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: is a sentiment that a lot of us can relate to. Yeah,

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01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:44,640
Speaker 1: we're like ten years ago, it was a not a

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01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 1: simpler time. It was a it was a more lectris time.

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01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:50,759
Speaker 1: And the further you go back, the worse it gets.

1357
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,880
Speaker 1: So we're doing better now. We're in a better place

1358
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: as a culture. Moana came out, and since then things

1359
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,720
Speaker 1: have been on well, the up and up, except then

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01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:02,360
Speaker 1: the but then Transformers came out of game. I mean,

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01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if we're in a better place as

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01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: a culture, but we as individuals are in better places

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01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 1: killing Donald Trumps president. So you know that's not too good. No,

1364
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:16,400
Speaker 1: it's not too good at all. We as a culture

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01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 1: don't like that. But my taste has gotten even more

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01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,840
Speaker 1: exquisite if you could believe it from ten years ago.

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01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: So Spider Man two is still in my top five

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01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 1: and has been for over ten years. Check out a

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01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 1: Spiderman Homecoming. I really enjoyed it. Oh, I haven't seen

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01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:33,879
Speaker 1: it yet. I want to say, I want to describe

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01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:38,439
Speaker 1: it as irrevocably, but that one irrevocably a movie I've seen.

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01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 1: It's true. You can't go and see it. Take it back.

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01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: There's a lot of female characters. For how bad this

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01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,599
Speaker 1: movie is. Two women, true, like you were just saying,

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01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: which is and I hadn't even thought of it. It

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01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: probably is about half and half in terms of male

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01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,799
Speaker 1: versus female characters, which doesn't happen a lot in movies,

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01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 1: but also said just as bad that all the female

1379
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: characters are just well. There are many more opportunities for

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01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: the movie to pass the Bechdel test than we see

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01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:15,400
Speaker 1: in the average movie. What was Your Reads? I think

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01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: it does, but only very, very minimally, and often in

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01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 1: a conversation where they then shift the focus to a man, right,

1384
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: so like it's we're talking to line exchanges. At one point,

1385
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: Bella and Angela and Jess are talking about their prom dresses, right,

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01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 1: and then the subtext is it's about the boys and

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01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 1: how the boys will react to the dresses. Yeah, right,

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01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,600
Speaker 1: So still technically passes. But there's one scene in the

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01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: kitchen in the Vampire House between Alice and Bella. She says, hi,

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01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,800
Speaker 1: I'm Alice, Bella says hi, and then Alice says, you

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01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: do smell good. And then as May is like, are

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01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,040
Speaker 1: you hungry? And Bella is like yes, right, and and

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01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:04,559
Speaker 1: then you're like a weird dramatic unnecessary she just ate

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01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 1: and all right, and then Rosalie is like she breaks

1395
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: the glass right, and I'm just like, calm down. She's

1396
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 1: really upset to be To be fair, a family of

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01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,719
Speaker 1: one year old vampires are trying to quart a seventeen

1398
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 1: year old so they make an Italian meal. And then

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01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 1: Twilight is a movie that forever changes the Bechtel test.

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01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: It's like, how does the Bechtel test change when women

1401
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:36,439
Speaker 1: can be food? You know, I'm into I'm into this

1402
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 1: line of thing. I don't think it passes because they're

1403
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,120
Speaker 1: always talking to food, not to people, not to other women.

1404
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 1: It's like, you're not be Where were you on that?

1405
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: What if women can also be eaten? Right? It's like

1406
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 1: two meals talking to each other. That doesn't pass the

1407
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: Bechtel test. I would say the scene where Bella and

1408
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,240
Speaker 1: just meet each other in the gym after she's just

1409
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: spiked of volleyball at chowed Mike's head passes because Jessica goes,

1410
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:07,000
Speaker 1: I'm Jessica, by the way here from Arizona, right. Bella

1411
01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 1: was like yeah, and use aren't people from Arizona supposed

1412
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: to be like really tan? And Bella is like, maybe

1413
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:17,360
Speaker 1: that's why they kicked me out que uproarious laughter from everybody,

1414
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: like we love me girl, She's funny. Yeah. I mean

1415
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 1: this movie as a movie that they're you know, books

1416
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 1: written on how bad it is to women, does pass

1417
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: the Bechdel test if you can believe it. But as

1418
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 1: we often acknowledge, the Bechdel test is not like the

1419
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 1: end all be all. It is literally syndicator. Right, Yeah,

1420
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:45,760
Speaker 1: let's start here and then so Twilight, for all of

1421
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 1: its shortcomings, gets to step one. But that's as far

1422
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: as it stops. Right there. With that, let's rate the

1423
01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: movie our nipple scale. To our listeners who are not

1424
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:03,360
Speaker 1: familiar with the nipple scale, Let's start with the Twilight episode.

1425
01:22:04,280 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: Go back and listen to Thelma and Louise come on

1426
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: or mo wanna come on, and then revisit this episode.

1427
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: Go listen to Gli No, do not endorse that No

1428
01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: Julie is a good episode. Hey, I give it one

1429
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: nipple because we're rating it based on its portrayal of women.

1430
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,759
Speaker 1: One nipple because I do like that there's a pretty

1431
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:30,200
Speaker 1: equal gender balance in terms of male versus female characters,

1432
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,120
Speaker 1: pretty equal across the board, and I like that you

1433
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:38,680
Speaker 1: do see Bella often standing up for herself again. It

1434
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter because she ends up in this abusive relationship,

1435
01:22:43,240 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 1: but you do, at least, on many many occasions, see

1436
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: her and be like, no, don't touch me, No I

1437
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,840
Speaker 1: want answers, No, stop gaslighting me. I know what I saw, like,

1438
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 1: bye bye bye. Two thirds away into the movie, it's

1439
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 1: she's done for, but we do the dying breaths of

1440
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:06,680
Speaker 1: what was once a somewhat confidence in the work. She

1441
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: is awkward, but someone who can at least ask, you know,

1442
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,360
Speaker 1: not afraid of confrontation, not afraid of asking a question

1443
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:18,400
Speaker 1: that is reasonable to a man. Sure, yes, So that's

1444
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: why it gets one star and not zero stars stars.

1445
01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so sorry. Okay, one nipple, one

1446
01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: nipple for Caitlin, one nipple for me would have gotten

1447
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: a zero nipple rating. But it has a tiny little

1448
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 1: thing going for it. Isn't there a thing where you like,

1449
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 1: give the nipple to someone, Yeah, we will. We describe

1450
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: the nipple. My nipple belongs to Jacob, whose nipple we

1451
01:23:51,080 --> 01:23:54,640
Speaker 1: see in New Moon. He's like, I'm riding on a motorcycle.

1452
01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 1: I gotta take my shirt off, and you see his

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Speaker 1: nipple and it's a good Nipple highly endorsed that nipple,

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01:24:01,960 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: so Team Jacob, Team Jacob agree. I'm gonna give it

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01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 1: one and a half nipples because technically, with R. Rubric

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01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 1: it does pass the bactial test, which I was honestly

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01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: very surprised that it does technically more than once there

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01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:19,360
Speaker 1: are a lot of female characters and then almost exclusively

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01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 1: wasted potential. But this is to be clear, the one

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01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 1: and a half is for this movie only, not in

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01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,839
Speaker 1: any way for the whole series, which gets negative nipples

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01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: because it actively removes more and more agency from its

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01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 1: female characters as the series goes on, begins to kill

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Speaker 1: them off, etcetera. But for this movie alone, I'll give

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01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,599
Speaker 1: it one and a half because, like you were saying,

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01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 1: we see Bella not be totally gaslighted that at the beginning,

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01:24:47,439 --> 01:24:50,680
Speaker 1: we see her fight as she goes down, uh and

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01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 1: descends into the worst years of her life, which presumably

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01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 1: lasts forever. Uh. It's I give one and a half,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to give one to that fucking Jacksonville

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01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:08,240
Speaker 1: batting cage showed Phil, and then I'll give half of

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01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: one to Angela because she was the closest we got

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01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 1: to anything. She was a strong independent woman. She asked.

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01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: She asked Eric and he said, yes, they go to

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01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,639
Speaker 1: prom together. They sure do good for her. Go angela

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Speaker 1: half a nipple for you. Um, I interesting premise. I

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01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:29,760
Speaker 1: mean it didn't really deliver, But I think this would

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01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,439
Speaker 1: have been a great movie if it were about Bella

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01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:33,839
Speaker 1: and her dad or Bella and her gay best friend Jacob.

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01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 1: It was not about those things. So I'm gonna give

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01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 1: it one What can it be about Bella and her mom?

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01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: Why can it be about a female in Florida? That

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01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: doesn't have to happen when you're rewriting the story. Okay,

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01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: so we're rewriting. Okay, I'm still giving it one and

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01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,520
Speaker 1: a half nipples. And that is because in the trailer

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01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 1: to New Moon, there was a lot of controversy about

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01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:57,560
Speaker 1: edwards left nipple. If you guys haven't read about Nipplegate,

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01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:03,799
Speaker 1: people really went to town Twitter about Edwards. Maybe funked

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01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: up body, Maybe he wasn't as perfect as everyone thought.

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01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 1: I actually kind of remember that one and a half

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Speaker 1: nipples for Rob Pattinson's left nipple. Thank you, dear God,

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Speaker 1: Hey JT, my dear friend. Yes, thanks for being here,

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01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,120
Speaker 1: thank you for having me We've had a swell time.

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01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 1: This is really different from my day job, which is

1495
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: an educator. Right, do you want some followers? Where can

1496
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: people find you? On Twitter at JT in the Cloud.

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01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: I say funny things about culture and video games and

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01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 1: education and feminism. Hey, you can follow the Bechtel Cast

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01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: on many different platforms for instance, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Bechtel

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Speaker 1: Cast some variation on it. Fucking banger in Out. You'll

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01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: find it. We have a live show kind of in

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01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 1: New York in September. UM. We'll be posting more about that.

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01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 1: Probably by the time this comes out. You'll be able

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01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: to buy tickets. That's exciting. Check our various media places.

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01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 1: Find out a place to buy things. To that thing

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01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: and we'll see you at that thing, and we're gonna

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01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: have a big old fun time. We're gonna chillax, chillax.

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01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: We're gonna be lamping in New York City. Push baby, Okay,

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Speaker 1: bye bye. Say it.