WEBVTT - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #7

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<v Speaker 1>Coolson Media.

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<v Speaker 2>This is It could Happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly

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<v Speaker 2>newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling

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<v Speaker 2>of the world, and what it means for you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>Garrison Davis today I'm joined by Mia Wong and Robert Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode, we're covering the week of March five to

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<v Speaker 2>March twelve. Trump films a Tesla commercial, RFK Junior eats

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<v Speaker 2>beef tallow French fries at Steak and Shake, and Sam

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<v Speaker 2>Seter commits a mass casualty event on YouTube. How's everyone

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<v Speaker 2>doing today?

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<v Speaker 3>Very happy to join you for ED this week. Huge

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<v Speaker 3>fan of ED, just like just big big ED guy.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, psyched to be here. I feel like we

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<v Speaker 3>should mention up top.

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<v Speaker 4>There's also a bunch of unhinged tariff news and the

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<v Speaker 4>most like electing fucking Caliguli's horse to the Senate thing

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen in a long time, So stay.

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<v Speaker 3>Tuned for that. Lots of good stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we will get to it. First, I would like

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<v Speaker 2>to have a little bit of an update on a

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<v Speaker 2>story that we talked about a few days ago, the

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<v Speaker 2>detention and the revocation of a green card for a

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<v Speaker 2>Palestinian activist Mamood Khalil. As of Wednesday, his lawyers have

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<v Speaker 2>still been unable to even contact their client. There was

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<v Speaker 2>a large rally outside the First Court conference in New

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<v Speaker 2>York this Wednesday. So we talked about this a few

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<v Speaker 2>days ago for some background an episode with James Robert

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<v Speaker 2>and myself. Robert, do you want to like briefly summarize

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<v Speaker 2>the situation and then I'll play a clip from one

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<v Speaker 2>of his lawyers.

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<v Speaker 3>This situation is that this guy got taken into custody.

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<v Speaker 3>My understanding is it was at an apartment that he

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<v Speaker 3>lived in with his wife. He was a US citizen.

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<v Speaker 3>He became aware, it looks like at least about twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four hours before probably became more that he was being

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<v Speaker 3>It's a little clear if he was just like being

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<v Speaker 3>surveilled or there was something else that tipped them off.

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<v Speaker 3>But he contacted the school asking for help convince that

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<v Speaker 3>Ice was coming for him about a day before they

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<v Speaker 3>did when they entered the house. My understanding is based

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<v Speaker 3>on the claims being made by his wife that they

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<v Speaker 3>did not like, they didn't like produce a warrant or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>He's still not charged with any crime, No he's not

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<v Speaker 3>been charged with any and they just took him and

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<v Speaker 3>like turned off the phone when they were on the

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<v Speaker 3>phone to their lawyers, if I'm remembering correctly. Correct, So

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<v Speaker 3>it's like none of this is the way this should

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<v Speaker 3>have gone. Like if this was an arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he was just like black bagged from campus.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's not an arrest again, and they've been very

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<v Speaker 3>clear about this that, like they have specifically stated we're

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<v Speaker 3>not accusing him of like breaking the law, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not what's going on here.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct, And we will get to some of that later.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna play a clip from a press conference outside

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<v Speaker 2>court that happened on Wednesday, March twelfth. This is one

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<v Speaker 2>of his lawyers.

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<v Speaker 5>Mister Khalil's detention has nothing to do with security. It

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<v Speaker 5>is only about repression. United States government has taken the

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<v Speaker 5>position that it can arrest, detain, and seek to deport

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<v Speaker 5>a lawful permanent resident exclusively because of his peaceful, constitutionally

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<v Speaker 5>protected activism, in this case, activism in support of Palestinian

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<v Speaker 5>human rights and an end to the genocide in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 5>The government takes the position that because the Secretary of

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<v Speaker 5>State finds his descent unacceptable or contrary to US foreign policy,

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<v Speaker 5>he can be deported. As Romsey suggested, it's largely unprecedented,

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<v Speaker 5>save for ugly historical precedents, including the Red Scare and McCarthyism.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>We're also talking about a period of repression that the

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<v Speaker 5>Center for Constitutional Rights knows well following nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 5>when we were in the courts trying to get people

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<v Speaker 5>out of secret detention.

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<v Speaker 3>One thing that's different now.

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<v Speaker 5>Is the legal infrastructure is so much stronger, and everyone

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<v Speaker 5>out here on the streets knows that we cannot hide

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<v Speaker 5>in the face of.

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<v Speaker 3>This amount of repression.

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<v Speaker 5>We will be fighting in the courts and fighting in

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<v Speaker 5>the streets to bring Mahmoud home and prevent this level

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<v Speaker 5>of repression from spreading to many others, as the administration

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<v Speaker 5>that's threatened to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>That was on Wednesday. For now, a Khalil will be

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<v Speaker 2>remaining in ICE attention in Louisiana, and ICE director Tom

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<v Speaker 2>Homan said Wednesday that quote, free speech has its limitations.

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<v Speaker 3>Unquote, Yeah, I have found some stuff today of people

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<v Speaker 3>on the right attacking the judge who put out as

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<v Speaker 3>I guess called a stay on this in part because

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<v Speaker 3>the judge is Jewish, so it's nice to see the

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<v Speaker 3>anti Semitism being used in that way as well in

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<v Speaker 3>this instance. Just fascinating. We're really breaking new ground in

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<v Speaker 3>all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>A White House official did tell friend of the Pod

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<v Speaker 2>the Free Press not necessarily our favorite publication, but they

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<v Speaker 2>do have an exclusive quote here that the basis for

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<v Speaker 2>targeting Khalil is being used as a blueprint for investigations

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<v Speaker 2>against other students, saying Khalil is quote a threat to

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<v Speaker 2>the foreign policy and national security interests of the United

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<v Speaker 2>States unquote, said the official, noting that this calculation was

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<v Speaker 2>the driving force behind the arrest, saying, quote, the allegation

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<v Speaker 2>here is not that he was breaking the law. So

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<v Speaker 2>we have this official like openly saying, like, he's not

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<v Speaker 2>charged with a crime. We're just wanting to see if

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<v Speaker 2>we can do this. Can we deport a legal permanent

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<v Speaker 2>resident for saying something that we don't like?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And I think there's been a lot of comparisons

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<v Speaker 4>to this to direct maccarthyism. I think that's accurate to

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<v Speaker 4>some extent. I think the most direct compared to this

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<v Speaker 4>is not maccarthyism. It's the Palmer Raids yep, which I

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<v Speaker 4>think people tend to be way less familiar with. That

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<v Speaker 4>was the first Red Scare, which is largely targeted at

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<v Speaker 4>the industrial workers of the world for their opposition to

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<v Speaker 4>World War One, and they did basically the same shit.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people would give anti war speeches and

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<v Speaker 4>then a whole bunch of IWW organizers and other sort

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<v Speaker 4>of like leftists would get fucking deported for it. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that was a absolutely terrifying period of repression. If the

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<v Speaker 4>line is not drawn here, and it should have been

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<v Speaker 4>drawn like two hundred miles back from here, but if

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<v Speaker 4>isn't drawn here, this is going to continue. This is

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<v Speaker 4>going to continue to get worse.

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean all of this is in relation to

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<v Speaker 2>Trump's executive order, you know about quote unquote anti Semitism. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 2>today in the Oval Office he said something incredibly anti

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<v Speaker 2>Semitic and also anti Arab somehow, like in this same

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<v Speaker 2>statement saying, quote, Schumer is a Palestinian as far as

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<v Speaker 2>I'm concerned, he's become a Palestinian. He used to be Jewish,

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<v Speaker 2>He's not Jewish anymore. He's a Palestinian unquote, which is

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<v Speaker 2>just an unbelievably anti Semitic and anti Arab statement all

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<v Speaker 2>at once, like removing someone's Jewishness because of how they

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<v Speaker 2>act or things they've said or things they believe in.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's one of those things. Again, Like it's

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<v Speaker 3>worth like covering this as it develops. There's not much

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<v Speaker 3>to say other than like, this is incredibly illegal and

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<v Speaker 3>has to be opposed immediately and vigorously. Like yeah, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really bad. And of course you're not gonna have

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<v Speaker 2>the ADL coming out against Trump hero.

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<v Speaker 3>The ACLU did, which I should note because I heard

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<v Speaker 3>some people saying they did not expect the ACLU too

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<v Speaker 3>they have. But yeah, the ADL is fully in the

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<v Speaker 3>camp of lock any one up who's ever protested Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're not gonna call Trump anti Semitic for making

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<v Speaker 2>a statement like this, Yeah, because their interests are are

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<v Speaker 2>fairly aligned at this point. Read what's happening in Gaza.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think now we're gonna play a special report

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<v Speaker 2>from James, who can't be on the recording here today,

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<v Speaker 2>but he does have a report on deportations in Panama.

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<v Speaker 2>So James take it away.

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<v Speaker 6>So something that we've seen in the last week is

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<v Speaker 6>that the people who the US government has deported to

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<v Speaker 6>Panama who it can't deport to their home countries, have

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<v Speaker 6>in some cases been released by the Panamanian government and

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<v Speaker 6>given a thirty day visa or thirty days to essentially

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<v Speaker 6>exit Panama, and they're not really been given any support.

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<v Speaker 6>So they're in some cases like just sleeping on the

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<v Speaker 6>streets in Panama City, right just wandering around trying to

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<v Speaker 6>work out how to get home and trying to work

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<v Speaker 6>out like what they should do next.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, these people who.

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<v Speaker 6>Have fled places like Afghanistan, Iran, right, places where they

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<v Speaker 6>can't go back to, they would face persecution just for

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<v Speaker 6>the act of having tried to lead they weren't already

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<v Speaker 6>facing persecution before, which many of them were.

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<v Speaker 3>That that's why they fled.

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<v Speaker 6>So they've just kind of kicked it down the road

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<v Speaker 6>a little bit and we'll see where this leads. But

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<v Speaker 6>it's another piece of evidence that this wasn't hugely well planned,

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<v Speaker 6>that the Trump administration just wanted to get these deportation

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<v Speaker 6>numbers up but almost cost.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, We're gonna go on a break and come

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<v Speaker 2>back to talk about the Department of Education and Tariff

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<v Speaker 2>talk with Mia Walong.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Well, we are back, and you know it's everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>favorite time of the podcast talking about tariffs. And before

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<v Speaker 3>we get to Mia, I want to bring on a

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<v Speaker 3>musical guest to set this section of the program up.

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<v Speaker 7>Rocky Jazz Bob rocking jazz boy locking rocking jazz bo rocking.

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<v Speaker 4>Jazz bo Ah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh my gosh. That was worth the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>our year's budget. Now everyone will be getting paid for

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the year in Denny's coupons. That's all

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<v Speaker 3>we have left after paying for this. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>we can all agree worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to explain what that is because I

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<v Speaker 2>still don't really have a clue what exactly that opening

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<v Speaker 2>theme song is for Tariff Talk.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there was a great band called the Clash once

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<v Speaker 3>and they wrote one song that wasn't very good, and

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<v Speaker 3>in it, somebody says something that didn't sound very much

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<v Speaker 3>like the word tariff. But if you mispronounce the word tariff,

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<v Speaker 3>it fit in. And that's where forty two thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 3>of our operating budget this year went. Anyway, Mia, let's

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<v Speaker 3>talk about tariff's.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, now that I've now that I've gotten one of

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<v Speaker 4>the two things I've ever wanted in life, play on music.

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<v Speaker 4>So since last week this has been an entire roller

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<v Speaker 4>coaster because right after we finished recording, in like the

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<v Speaker 4>next two days, everyone went, oh, the tariff aren't going

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<v Speaker 4>to be that bad, because a lot of the tariffs

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<v Speaker 4>that were hit with Trump sort of general twenty five

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<v Speaker 4>percent Canada Mexico tariff got waved after Trump agreed not

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<v Speaker 4>to apply them to goods covered by the U SMA

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<v Speaker 4>Free Trade Agreement. But then everyone remembered that the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>five percent steel in a Lune of tariff was still

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<v Speaker 4>going into effect, and so that went into effect this week. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>there was also a brief, incredible moment of panic where

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<v Speaker 4>Trump was talking about doubling them to fifty percent. He

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<v Speaker 4>backs off of this in exchange for Ontario's Doug Ford

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<v Speaker 4>stopping a like twenty five percent increase in electricity prices. However, coma,

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<v Speaker 4>the trade war is one hundred percent still on. Canada

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<v Speaker 4>is doing a whole like sort of slate of reciprocal

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<v Speaker 4>tariffs specifically on steel and also tariffs and taxes on

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<v Speaker 4>a whole suite of other US goods. I'm just going

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<v Speaker 4>to read this from the Associated Press, because this is

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<v Speaker 4>no longer the trade war here is no longer limited

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<v Speaker 4>to the US, Canada, China, and to some extp Mexico.

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<v Speaker 4>For Mexico's really hasn't been responding in the same way

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<v Speaker 4>as basically every other country who's come under these tariffs,

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<v Speaker 4>or at least the sort of main focuses of these tariffs.

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<v Speaker 4>But this week the EU officially joined the phrase. So

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<v Speaker 4>here's from the AP quote across the Atlantic, the European

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<v Speaker 4>Union will raise terrace on American beef, poultry, bourbon and motorcycles.

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<v Speaker 4>Bourbon again.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, bourbon twice. Yeah, bourbon twice. It's twice as

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<v Speaker 3>important as the other things.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, peanut, butter and jeans. Actually you say this, there

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<v Speaker 4>was a whole like part of the whole speech. It

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<v Speaker 4>was not a joke, maya people the EU would like this.

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<v Speaker 4>This was this was part of the thing. Was yeah, like,

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<v Speaker 4>we're hoping to restore the profitability of the American spirits

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<v Speaker 4>markets with the US backs down.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also the only American product that Trudeau can

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<v Speaker 2>named during his big very funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's be honest, outside of music, this nation has produced

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<v Speaker 3>one thing of value to the world, and it's bourbon.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, pretty reusable It's also very funny that it was

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<v Speaker 4>like Bourbon was like our what attempt number was it

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<v Speaker 4>at making whiskey before we finally got one that was

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<v Speaker 4>like exportable.

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<v Speaker 3>Terrible. I mean, yeah, it took. It took generations. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Rome wasn't built in the day, and Bourbon

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<v Speaker 3>is the rome of liquors produced in Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and speaking of it being produced in Kentucky, this

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<v Speaker 4>is actually deliberately Okay, well, all right, so the EU

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<v Speaker 4>in theory, the line that they're saying is that these

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<v Speaker 4>are deliberately designed to like target things that are made

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<v Speaker 4>in red States. They also did do soybean tariffs too, though,

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<v Speaker 4>which is you know, like you're dropping a new kin

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<v Speaker 4>Illinois here. Okay, So the EU as impost reciprocal tariffs

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<v Speaker 4>on twenty eight billion dollars of US goods. Also on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 4>China's tariffs went into effect, which means the agricultural terrifts

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<v Speaker 4>that we talked about last week. And notably I keep

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<v Speaker 4>coming back to soybeans because soybeans are such a critical

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<v Speaker 4>part of the system of American agriculture as the crop

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<v Speaker 4>that you rotate out with coren to sort of like

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<v Speaker 4>preserve soil integrity. The Chinese tariffs are now in effect.

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<v Speaker 4>It's mostly on agricultural goods. Yeah, and this has I

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<v Speaker 4>think in ways that are pretty predictable, at least to me.

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<v Speaker 4>This has caused a lot of panic in the markets.

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<v Speaker 4>There's been some sort of rallying as like more information

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<v Speaker 4>comes in, but there's stuff that I did not predict,

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<v Speaker 4>which is so okay. Goldman Sachs has downgraded its projection

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<v Speaker 4>for us GDP growth. Their chief economist is talking about

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<v Speaker 4>how he thinks we're gonna get stagflation again, which is

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<v Speaker 4>sort of While ceclation was the thing in the seventies

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<v Speaker 4>that was, you know, like you have inflation and unemployment

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<v Speaker 4>growth at the same time, this is basically the economic

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<v Speaker 4>condition that liquidated the welfare state and allowed to write

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<v Speaker 4>take power in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>That's funny because when I google stag inflation, I get

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<v Speaker 2>very different results. That could just be my own.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's that's stagfilation, Garrison, two very different things.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sorry, yeah, I think I I think I'm anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>The things I have to deal with on this job,

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<v Speaker 4>they never warned me every single time. It's true, It's true,

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<v Speaker 4>it's true.

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<v Speaker 6>This is this.

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<v Speaker 4>This makes up for a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ever get to fight the Undertaker, you have

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<v Speaker 3>a song to go on too.

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<v Speaker 4>It's true, So okay now now, so it's sort of

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<v Speaker 4>more surprisingly and this is something I have literally never

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<v Speaker 4>seen before with the US. Both City Bank, while City

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<v Speaker 4>which is the over the City Bank like changed his

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<v Speaker 4>name to City or something, but City Bank and ubs

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<v Speaker 4>the giants Swiss Bank downgraded the status of all US equities.

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<v Speaker 4>I have never seen anything like this in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 4>They are also boosting the status of Chinese and EU

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<v Speaker 4>equity So this is basically like this doesn't have like

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<v Speaker 4>a technical official effect, but this is like this is

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<v Speaker 4>basically their their evaluation of what countries like stocks basically

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<v Speaker 4>you should purchase right And this is also sort of

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<v Speaker 4>applies to bonds, So.

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<v Speaker 7>Is that bad?

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<v Speaker 4>This is like I assume that the US would get

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<v Speaker 4>its actual credit rating devalued before this happens. I've never

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<v Speaker 4>this is this is unreal. Like the argument that they

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<v Speaker 4>are making here is that it is because of the

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<v Speaker 4>instability in the US, like because because of the tariffs

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<v Speaker 4>and because of everything that's going on, that like you

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<v Speaker 4>should just fucking pull your money out of the out

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<v Speaker 4>of the US and American companies and put it somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 4>And they're they're secifically boosting the status of Chinese and

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<v Speaker 4>EU equities, which is astonishing because again one of one

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<v Speaker 4>of the one of the countries again who's whose equity

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<v Speaker 4>status that they are boosting is China. China's economy is

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<v Speaker 4>a fucking disaster right now. They're dealing with like their

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<v Speaker 4>fucking housing bubble going under. They've been trying to do

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<v Speaker 4>this pivot to a consumer based economy for years and

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<v Speaker 4>years and years and years, and it doesn't work because

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<v Speaker 4>they don't pay people enough to actually like fuel an

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<v Speaker 4>economy consumer spending. Like they're you know, they're they're about

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<v Speaker 4>to take giant damage from the trade war. And also

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<v Speaker 4>they like you know, like it was only like three

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<v Speaker 4>years ago the CCP faced their first like nationwide mass

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<v Speaker 4>protests like since Tianneman, right, and these guys like and

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<v Speaker 4>again these are these these are the financial analysts of

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<v Speaker 4>City Bank and UBS have looked at that and went,

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<v Speaker 4>you are better off putting your money there than you

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<v Speaker 4>are putting it in the US.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, at this point, I think Trump's tariffs have

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<v Speaker 2>wiped out. I'm reading four trillion from the US stock

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<v Speaker 2>market just in this past month.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, now trillion?

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<v Speaker 7>Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay? So for example, I have thirty two dollars right

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<v Speaker 3>now in in my pocket. Is it more than that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a little bit more, Okay, Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so it is enough to buy two different servings of pizza. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>this is I'm trying to put this into terms I

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<v Speaker 3>can understand, thank you.

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<v Speaker 5>It is.

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<v Speaker 4>Imagine, imagine one burger, right.

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<v Speaker 3>And a burger and Portland does cost thirty two dollars?

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, yes, Now now imagine I thought you're gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>does cost for tull a dollar?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean probably tomorrow, right, like khudos. I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>if if any fucking plagues that.

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<v Speaker 3>We're doing adding levity because this is legitimately kind of frightening.

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<v Speaker 4>No, like this is I have never seen the financial

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<v Speaker 4>press like, yes, like the only times I've ever seen

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<v Speaker 4>the financial pressure react to something like this is like

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<v Speaker 4>they were kind of acting like this about the possibility

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<v Speaker 4>of Jeremy Corbin like taking power in the UK, like

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<v Speaker 4>they are like I washed a guy on CNBC, right,

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<v Speaker 4>this is not like like this is this is not MSNBC.

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<v Speaker 4>This is not even like CNN. This is CNBC literally

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<v Speaker 4>go on air and call what Trump is doing quote

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<v Speaker 4>insane and start talking about how and this is and

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<v Speaker 4>this is I think what these people are worried about

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<v Speaker 4>is they're you know, the thing that they're seeing that's

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<v Speaker 4>starting right now, and it's starting with these sort of

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<v Speaker 4>these downgrades views equities is capital flight, which is straight

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<v Speaker 4>up a butt like international capital taking their money from

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<v Speaker 4>the US and fucking literally moving out of the country

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<v Speaker 4>and moving it somewhere else because the US is so unstable.

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<v Speaker 4>This is like, I don't know if anyone knows what

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<v Speaker 4>mass capital flight from the US would do, because I've

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<v Speaker 4>never seen anything like this. So part of what's going

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<v Speaker 4>on right and part of the reason the markets have

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<v Speaker 4>kind of recovered in the last few days after the tanking,

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<v Speaker 4>and they did Monday, is that, like the inflation data

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<v Speaker 4>came out and it wasn't that bad. But the thing is,

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<v Speaker 4>all of the inflation data we're getting right now, and

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<v Speaker 4>all of the economic indicators we're getting right now, it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna take a little bit of time for the actual

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<v Speaker 4>effects of these terrorists to set in, right Like these

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<v Speaker 4>are these are things that like you know, it's going

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<v Speaker 4>to take it's going to take like six months, maybe

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<v Speaker 4>a year before we fully see the impact of that.

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<v Speaker 4>But and when we do, it is going to fucking

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<v Speaker 4>law ismoking creator into the economy. And the worst part

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<v Speaker 4>of it this about this is this isn't even the

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<v Speaker 4>most unhinged part of this. The most unhinged part of

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<v Speaker 4>this is how the Republicans have been reacting to all

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<v Speaker 4>of this in Congress. So one of the few things

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<v Speaker 4>the Democrats have been trying to do, and I say

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<v Speaker 4>one of the few because like the response has been

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<v Speaker 4>Downwright collaborationists, that they've been trying to force Republicans to

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<v Speaker 4>take a vote on the tariffs, because the tariffs are

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<v Speaker 4>unbelievably unpopular, and they're particularly unbelievably unpopular among like the

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<v Speaker 4>capital owning class, who you know, actually matter. So what

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<v Speaker 4>they've been trying to do is that Trump did these

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<v Speaker 4>tariffs by declaring a state of emergency, and the Democrats

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<v Speaker 4>wanted to use the National Emergencies Act to force the

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<v Speaker 4>vote in the tariffs. I'm just going to read this

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<v Speaker 4>in the New York Times. The National Emergency Law lays

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<v Speaker 4>out a fast track process for Congress to consider a

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<v Speaker 4>resolution ending a presidential emergency, requiring committee consideration within fifteen

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<v Speaker 4>calendar days after one is introduced, and a floor vote

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<v Speaker 4>within three days after that. But the language the House

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<v Speaker 4>Republicans inserted into their measure on Tuesday declare that quote

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<v Speaker 4>each day for the remainder of the one hundred and

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<v Speaker 4>nineteenth Congress shall not constitute a calendar day for the

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<v Speaker 4>purposes of the emergency that Trump declared on February first.

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<v Speaker 4>So the point we are at right now is is

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<v Speaker 4>in order to preserve a bunch of tariffs which are

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<v Speaker 4>effectively about to fucking obliterate the entire world economy, Congress

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<v Speaker 4>has declared that days don't pass. This is fucking this

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<v Speaker 4>is completely unhinged. This is fucking like caligulous horse in

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<v Speaker 4>the Senate shit like they again, they are literally they

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<v Speaker 4>have literally declared that calendar days passing are not actually

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<v Speaker 4>calendar days, so that Trump can just keep doing tariff

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<v Speaker 4>shit and rule by fiat like the Israelites.

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<v Speaker 2>They have stopped time in order to win the battle.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's genuinely astonishing and the extent to which this

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<v Speaker 4>has kind of just been swept under the rug Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>have been you know, doing this kind of quietly right

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<v Speaker 4>and there. And and the fact that like the fact

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<v Speaker 4>that Democrats are not literally on TV every single second

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<v Speaker 4>of every day going that the Republicans are voting to

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<v Speaker 4>stop time so that Trump can destroy the economy is astonishing.

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<v Speaker 4>It's this real, like sort of admission by the Republican

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<v Speaker 4>Congress that like they're seating authority over policy like to

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<v Speaker 4>Trump completely right, Like the government now is Trump ruling

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<v Speaker 4>by sort of fear and people attempting to sort of

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<v Speaker 4>like run circles around him in courts, which is not

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<v Speaker 4>you know, working enormously. Well, yeah, we'll see and and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and this this, this is starting to have

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<v Speaker 4>effects on like investor confidence like in the in like

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<v Speaker 4>the US as a political entity in the US is

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<v Speaker 4>an economic entity, which is unprecedented. The other thing I

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<v Speaker 4>think it's worth noting is that these people like Elin

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<v Speaker 4>Must Donald Trump the people around them have been saying

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<v Speaker 4>for a long time that the plan is to cause

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<v Speaker 4>a recession and then after the recession things are going

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<v Speaker 4>to get better, and the financial pressures hasn't believed them.

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<v Speaker 4>And this right now is the period in which they're

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<v Speaker 4>starting to realize that they were serious about this, and

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know what the political ramifications of that are

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<v Speaker 4>going to be, because these are people who actually matter

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<v Speaker 4>in the political system, and I think we'll see the

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<v Speaker 4>rammications of this play out and then this sort of

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<v Speaker 4>coming weeks and months. But this is a fucking cliff

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<v Speaker 4>that we've hit, and we're now like Wiley Coyote, like

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<v Speaker 4>running off the side and trying not to look down.

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<v Speaker 3>But on the upside, we have a great new song

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<v Speaker 3>for everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So woo.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's to say if any of this has been bad?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we are back speaking of running circles around

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<v Speaker 2>the courts. We do have a small update reusade side.

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<v Speaker 2>Last week, in a five to four vote, the Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court denied an appeal from the Trump administration in a

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<v Speaker 2>case regarding Trump's attempted federal funds freeze and the shuddering

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<v Speaker 2>of you said. This was a case filed by the

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<v Speaker 2>AIDS Vaccine Advocacy Coalition and the Global Health Council. The

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<v Speaker 2>White House is now required to pay foreign aid contractors

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<v Speaker 2>for work that has already been completed, and further details

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<v Speaker 2>will be worked out back in the district court. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's still unclear if the Trump administration is going to

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<v Speaker 2>abide by the court's ruling and resume all required payments.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is the first move from the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>regarding Trump's actions the past few months. This has also

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<v Speaker 2>not stopped Trump from trying to slowly close other entire

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<v Speaker 2>government agencies. This very week, the Education Department laid off

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<v Speaker 2>nearly half of its workforce, over one thousand and three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred employees. Late Tuesday night, Education Secretary Linda McMahon went

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<v Speaker 2>onto Fox News to say that this reduction force is

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<v Speaker 2>only the first step towards abolishing the entire Education Department, saying, quote,

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<v Speaker 2>this was the president's mandate. His directive to me clearly

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<v Speaker 2>is to shut down the Department of Education, which we

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<v Speaker 2>know we'll have to work with Congress, you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>get that accomplished. But what we did today was to

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<v Speaker 2>take the first step of eliminating what I think is

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<v Speaker 2>a bureaucratic bloat unquote.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I mean, like, you know, we've talked on

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<v Speaker 4>the show for a long time how eliminating Department of

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<v Speaker 4>Education eventually destroying public education has been a long running goal.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, of the most absolutely unhinged of these people,

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<v Speaker 4>who are the people now in charge. And Yeah, they've

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<v Speaker 4>decided to just like individually fuck every child in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and so far, the way that they're trying to

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<v Speaker 2>close up the Department of Education is kind of in

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<v Speaker 2>a more selective manner because they're still keeping certain parts

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<v Speaker 2>of the department active.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>On March tenth, the Education Department announced that they were

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<v Speaker 2>launching investigations into sixty universities for quote Title six violations

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<v Speaker 2>relating to anti Semitic harassment and discrimination quote and this

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<v Speaker 2>is in relation to anti genocide protests on campus. And

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<v Speaker 2>this comes after Trump announced the immediate cancelation of four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred million dollars in federal grants and contracts to Columbia University.

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<v Speaker 2>The Education Department is threatening that these other fifty nine

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<v Speaker 2>universities may lose their funding if they do not quote

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<v Speaker 2>enforce Title six of the Civil Rights Act, which prohibits

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<v Speaker 2>any institution that receives federal funds from discriminating on the

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<v Speaker 2>basis of race, color, and national origin. National origin includes

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<v Speaker 2>shared a Jewish ancestry Unquote. I don't know how to

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<v Speaker 2>say here.

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<v Speaker 4>You get to see all the threads of this admin

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<v Speaker 4>coming together, right, which is that you know, these people

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<v Speaker 4>are also attempting to effectively destroy like the secondary education

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<v Speaker 4>system in this country two for reasons that are sort

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<v Speaker 4>of unclear to me, I don't know. But what we're

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<v Speaker 4>seeing here, right is the ways that the Democrats sort

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<v Speaker 4>of like falling into lockscept with Republicans on back of

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 4>the genocide in Israel has sort of led to this

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<v Speaker 4>thing where the Republicans are using this to just straight

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<v Speaker 4>up obliterate like all of the US's like political, economic,

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<v Speaker 4>and social institutions.

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<v Speaker 2>Well and specifically with this like investigation, they are they

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to get all these universities to cooperate in

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<v Speaker 2>efforts to selectively remove students who have protested against the

0:26:12.760 --> 0:26:15.520
<v Speaker 2>genocide in Gaza. Right, this is this is the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the same attack on free speech and free expression that

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing against Khalil, Like this is this is the

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<v Speaker 2>same exact purpose, and now they're trying to get more

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<v Speaker 2>and more universities to be complicit in like the selective

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<v Speaker 2>removal of people in this country who choose to express

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<v Speaker 2>their First Amendment rights regardless of whether they're a citizen,

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<v Speaker 2>a Green card holder, or on a student visa. So

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is all deeply, deeply worrying. Robert, you

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<v Speaker 2>have a you have a small segment you want to

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<v Speaker 2>discuss before we start to close out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just a little bit at the end here. So

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<v Speaker 3>in the subreddit for the five OHO five oh one

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<v Speaker 3>protest campaign, which is an attempt to do protests in

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<v Speaker 3>all fifties dates simultaneously, right, I think their next day

0:27:02.760 --> 0:27:05.359
<v Speaker 3>of action is coming up in April. I'm not giving

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<v Speaker 3>an opinion on the overall thing, but in the subreddit,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody posted claiming to be a National Guard soldier given

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<v Speaker 3>kind of his thoughts on how the National Guard would

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<v Speaker 3>respond to orders to carry out violence against US citizens,

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<v Speaker 3>And I just wanted to chat about this book because

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<v Speaker 3>it's something we talk about on the show pretty regularly.

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<v Speaker 3>My opinion is that one of the likely ways things

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<v Speaker 3>come to a head, probably as early as this summer,

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<v Speaker 3>is that there is mass protests in DC and the

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<v Speaker 3>Insurrection Act gets used and the Guard at least are

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<v Speaker 3>brought in to attempt to crack down. I mean, obviously

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<v Speaker 3>Trump has done a version of this before, and Trump

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<v Speaker 3>and his state attorney have both discussed using the Insurrection

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<v Speaker 3>Act to crack down on protests. I think they see

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<v Speaker 3>DC as the place they want to do that. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's interesting to me to see a post like this.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not a thing where like I've been able

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<v Speaker 3>to verify this guy. Yet there's a couple of points

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<v Speaker 3>that make me that is probably is a National guardsman.

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<v Speaker 3>For one thing, there's a lot of them, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not like a National guardsman. Where'd you find one?

0:28:07.600 --> 0:28:09.240
<v Speaker 3>There's a ton of fucking dudes in the National Guard.

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<v Speaker 3>For the other thing, everything he says is consistent with

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<v Speaker 3>things that I have seen and talked to other people

0:28:14.800 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 3>who are in and were in the Guard about. There's

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<v Speaker 3>one little bit where he advises people on like stop

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 3>the bleed gear, and he gives good advice. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>only buy from NAAR and North American Rescue. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>same advice we would have given. He cites DoD Directive

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen forty four to ten, which is why he believes

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<v Speaker 3>he's well within his rights to make a post like this,

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<v Speaker 3>And in essence, what he's saying is that it is

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<v Speaker 3>his belief that most of the military chain of command

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<v Speaker 3>from NCOs up to officers would not be down with

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<v Speaker 3>following illegal orders to fire on US citizens. But the

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<v Speaker 3>vast majority of enlisted troops, if fired upon, would get

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<v Speaker 3>over whatever issues they have with that very quickly, right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the gist of it is that I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>within sort of the officer class and the NCO class,

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 3>there are a lot of resistance to the idea of

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<v Speaker 3>the military being used for domestic policing. That is less

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<v Speaker 3>clear with kind of the enlisted class, who are you

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<v Speaker 3>A significant chuck of them are very much down for Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>But whatever sort of divisions exist within enlisted soldiers would

0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 3>fall apart pretty quickly if soldiers were fired upon. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is probably like a assuming this is accurate,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't really see a reason to doubt it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's nothing he's saying here that's crazy. I think this

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<v Speaker 3>is kind of an interesting thing to keep in mind that, like,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're looking at the military, it's not the police.

0:29:38.280 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 3>Like if I have to have armed agents of the

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<v Speaker 3>state cracking down on a protest, I'm less worried about

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<v Speaker 3>people being killed if it's the National Guard in general.

0:29:47.760 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 3>But that situation can change very very rapidly if the

0:29:53.480 --> 0:29:57.800
<v Speaker 3>situation becomes an active firefight. And I do think like

0:29:57.920 --> 0:30:00.040
<v Speaker 3>that's a thing we have to consider right now. What

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<v Speaker 3>was the possibility that we have US soldiers, whether the

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 3>National Guard or active duty, engaged openly in shooting at

0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 3>American protesters. Like that's in the cards as early as

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<v Speaker 3>this summer, and it's not a fun the thing to

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<v Speaker 3>think about. But I'm seeing more and more, not just

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 3>posts like this, but I'm having more and more conversations

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:24.200
<v Speaker 3>with people who are in the military or who were

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<v Speaker 3>are in the National Guard about their concerns about what

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<v Speaker 3>they might be called upon to do. Some of this

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<v Speaker 3>has to do with the border, but like it is

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<v Speaker 3>becoming increasingly common for people in the military to worry

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<v Speaker 3>about how they are going to be used in the

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<v Speaker 3>immediate future. We're not talking about years. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>this summer, right is when there's a very good chance

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of stuff comes to a head. So these

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 3>are things you should be thinking about. If you're listening

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<v Speaker 3>and you are in the military, these are things that

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:53.719
<v Speaker 3>you should be thinking about because the people who are

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<v Speaker 3>in charge of our government right now have made a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of statements about how they want to use the

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<v Speaker 3>military to deal with protest tests, and the idea that

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to happen very soon is not not fringe

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 3>you're crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and although these people might have you know, slightly

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.480
<v Speaker 2>more disciplined when it comes to actual firearms. There is

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.720
<v Speaker 2>also incidents like in twenty twenty yep where the Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>Army National Guard killed someone via the misuse of crowd

0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 2>control absolutely munitions. I think that this this is also

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<v Speaker 2>worth stating. Even if you know, like a kent State situation,

0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:28.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe is not not as likely in like the modern day,

0:31:29.480 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 2>there's certainly other other ways to cause grievous harm. Yes,

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:35.520
<v Speaker 2>in these sorts of like protest environments, and.

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<v Speaker 3>When we've seen I mean even in Portland, when we

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<v Speaker 3>have seen which you witnessed personally, unfortunately, Garrison, the worst

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<v Speaker 3>injuries to crowd control devices are usually people in our

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.200
<v Speaker 3>case it was federal agents, but who are utilizing crowd

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 3>control weapons and have not trained on them. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>they're not. There's certain ways you're supposed to and not

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 3>supposed to use them, and these guys are just Hey,

0:31:56.680 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 3>you know how to use a gun. You must know

0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 3>how to use the robot balling thing.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, if you use like less lethals the way you

0:32:02.560 --> 0:32:05.840
<v Speaker 2>would use you know, a regular firearm, that actually leads

0:32:05.880 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 2>to like much more like possible lethal consequences or like

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 2>life changing consequences. Yeah, which you know, police are more

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 2>familiar with the regular use of crowd control munitions than

0:32:16.240 --> 0:32:19.720
<v Speaker 2>necessarily you know, like bore attack or like state national guards.

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<v Speaker 2>Something that's also you know, worth keeping in mind. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>close by my my least favorite segment, Stinky Musk, which

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<v Speaker 2>I still has a really bad name. On Monday, a

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<v Speaker 2>Central judge ruled that Musk's DOGE should be the subject

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<v Speaker 2>to comply with FOIA requests and public disclosures of information

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.680
<v Speaker 2>required of government agencies, with the judge ordering the release

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.320
<v Speaker 2>of email correspondence between Musk's team and the Office of

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<v Speaker 2>Management and Budget and was ordered to quote begin producing

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<v Speaker 2>documents on a rolling basis as soon as practicable unquote now.

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Despite Musk's claims of quote unquote maximum transparency. Last month,

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<v Speaker 2>the Trump administration tried to shield DOGE from public records

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<v Speaker 2>requests by labeling the agency's documents as quote unquote presidential records,

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:09.200
<v Speaker 2>which carries special protections. This specific case is super interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>The judge of federal judge by the name of Cooper

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<v Speaker 2>also critiqued the way that the Trump admin tried to

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<v Speaker 2>litigate this case, quoting from political quote, the lawyers offered

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 2>virtually nothing in the way of evidence about doge's operations

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<v Speaker 2>or management. Indeed, the court wonders whether this decision was strategic,

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Cooper said, noting that the Trump administration lawyers had taken

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<v Speaker 2>competing positions, including that DOGE qualifies as an agency under

0:33:32.880 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 2>some sections of law but not others when it suits it. Thus,

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<v Speaker 2>DOGE becomes, on the defendant's view, a Goldilocke's entity, Cooper wrote,

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>not an agency when it's burdensome, but an agency when

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:50.160
<v Speaker 2>it's convenient unquote. And I do like Cooper's analysis here

0:33:50.440 --> 0:33:54.160
<v Speaker 2>of how DOGE is very selectively an agency only when

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 2>it causes you know, benefit to Trump or Musk. And finally,

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 2>we have one other Musk story to close out. This

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<v Speaker 2>episode admits Tesla's plummeting stock price, protests outside Tesla dealerships,

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 2>and reports of vandalism of dealerships across the country. Trump

0:34:10.960 --> 0:34:14.800
<v Speaker 2>has essentially started doing ads for Tesla on the White

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:18.799
<v Speaker 2>House driveway. Upon climbing in a red car that he's

0:34:18.840 --> 0:34:23.040
<v Speaker 2>not allowed to operate, Trump remarked, Wow, everything is computer

0:34:24.800 --> 0:34:28.600
<v Speaker 2>So this was a very very odd and kind of

0:34:28.640 --> 0:34:33.360
<v Speaker 2>embarrassing show of favoritism where Musk brought out like a

0:34:33.480 --> 0:34:36.800
<v Speaker 2>number of different Tesla models and Trump got to quote unquote,

0:34:36.840 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, pick the one that he wanted to buy,

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.560
<v Speaker 2>as he just like sat in on this like televised

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 2>advertisement for Tesla as his you know, company is losing

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:50.280
<v Speaker 2>a shocking amount of money in the in the stock market.

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:50.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 4>And there, I mean there, there's literally there's literally a

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 4>picture of him with like the notes that he has.

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 4>There's like in an in like really really.

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 2>Like a Tesla's sales note like bullet point of like

0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 2>how much certain models are, what their different features are,

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.600
<v Speaker 2>which ones have self driving features included, which ones you

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:07.360
<v Speaker 2>have to pay extra for.

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:08.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.239
<v Speaker 2>No, he's literally carrying like a Tesla sales pitch as

0:35:11.280 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 2>he does this televised appearance boosting his new best friends

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:19.880
<v Speaker 2>and co president's company. Trump said on True Social the

0:35:20.040 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 2>radical left lunatics are trying to illegally and collusively boycott Tesla,

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:30.120
<v Speaker 2>one of the world's greatest automakers and Elon's baby, in

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:33.520
<v Speaker 2>order to attack and do harm to Elon and everything

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.959
<v Speaker 2>he stands for unquote. So now not only has Trump

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 2>called the Tesla boycott illegal, which which is, you know,

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 2>its own form of unhinged. But on Tuesday, Trump announced

0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:51.120
<v Speaker 2>that vandalism of Tesla's will be labeled as domestic terrorism,

0:35:51.560 --> 0:35:55.879
<v Speaker 2>promising that perpetrators will quote unquote go through hell. White

0:35:55.920 --> 0:36:00.520
<v Speaker 2>House spokesperson Harrison Fields said, quote ongoing and heinous acts

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 2>of violence against Tesla's by radical leftist activists are nothing

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 2>short of domestic terror unquote, So that.

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:10.879
<v Speaker 3>Would be fun to see how that blaze out.

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:14.920
<v Speaker 4>I feel like we're we genuinely are not that far

0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.480
<v Speaker 4>off from just like Trump trying to hand down legal

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<v Speaker 4>mandate saying you must buy a Tesla like this. This

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<v Speaker 4>is the this is the kind of shit that we're

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<v Speaker 4>in now.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, this is one of the most like bizarre things

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen. If if Biden or any Democratic president

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<v Speaker 2>did anything similar to this, you would have like thralls

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<v Speaker 2>of people screaming for his impeachment, similar to like the

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<v Speaker 2>erg Adams thing. It's like one of the most blatant

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<v Speaker 2>open displays of corruption I've ever seen, where I president

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<v Speaker 2>is using his office to boost like the personal financial

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<v Speaker 2>interests of one of his top advisors who's also like

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<v Speaker 2>running government agencies essentially and doing massive massive cuts to

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<v Speaker 2>prohibit their ability to like investigate his own businesses, while

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<v Speaker 2>also taking massive amounts of government money to keep businesses

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<v Speaker 2>like Tesla and SpaceX operable. So this has been a

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<v Speaker 2>pretty pretty silly thing to watch unfold the past few days,

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<v Speaker 2>and now Tesla shares have risen four percent after Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>support for Musk and Tesla.

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<v Speaker 3>Great, well, I think that's going to do it here

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<v Speaker 3>at us with the ed to play us out, We're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna refer back to our friend the Narcissist Cookbook who

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<v Speaker 3>put together our lovely new tariff theme song that you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna hear every week until tariffs aren't a thing anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>We reported the news.

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