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Speaker 2: Hey?

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Guys? You were listening to Potter Rebelly And this is

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Speaker 2: Taylor Gray Ezra Bridger Specter six, and we're so excited

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Speaker 4: Is Oh, it's me Hi, I'm tsur Car voice of

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Speaker 4: Sabine Wren Specter five.

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Speaker 5: And with us we also have it looks.

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Speaker 6: And I'm not sure if it should have been you,

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Speaker 6: I don't know, yes, but I'm so grateful to be here,

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Speaker 1: Have Hey everyone, it's John Lee Brody, your friendly neighborhood

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Speaker 1: moderator for the Potter Rebellion, and today we're going over

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Speaker 1: Star Wars Rebels season two, episode five, Always two. There

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Speaker 1: are here we go? Oh, I see I see like

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Speaker 1: some I saw that Vanessa the little headshake, little hottail.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, let's get into it.

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Speaker 6: Sarah Michelle Geller slays, there's what is happening. I mean,

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Speaker 6: her outfit, all of it, all the things plus Sabine

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're waiting for that. Paul Mitchell sponsorship still still

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Speaker 1: doesn't come through yet, but you know, the message is out.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've put it the word out so and you.

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Speaker 6: And Chopp are working on that computer. It is literally

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Speaker 6: like a commercial for your hair. It's just your hair

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Speaker 6: is a glow, it's highlighted. It's fabulous.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate that, having nothing to do with it,

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Speaker 4: But first of all, love, I'm sure you guys do too.

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Speaker 4: But like, nothing brings me greater joy than like seeing

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Speaker 4: it's seeing Sabine cosplayers amazing, seeing what hair they chose

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Speaker 6: I mean, John, I don't know if you want to

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Speaker 1: You can't I get.

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Speaker 5: Canaan's wife in real life is among us? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm waiting for a your reference in this last one.

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Speaker 1: But you already said Sleigh, so now it's redundant.

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Speaker 5: But no, no, you got it.

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Speaker 6: But that's that's not even intentional. I can't even take

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Speaker 1: But indeed, welcome, am I going on? And we could

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Speaker 1: Never, Okay, here we go. Star Wars are season two,

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Speaker 1: episode five, always too. They are our original air date

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Speaker 2: Someone should when we finished the show, just take out

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Speaker 3: If they understand the show. Oh, that would be amazing,

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Speaker 1: That would be like binge watching like NCIS or something

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Speaker 4: What Rivers Showdown? What could that be? Why would I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, John, It's a funny it's a funny

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Speaker 6: Like doing all that Darth Sidious stuff versus Palpatine in

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Speaker 9: I cannot.

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Speaker 1: That's our social.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I felt like Richard Later was like directing this

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Speaker 4: Wait when you say Holden call Field, you mean the Seventh.

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Speaker 2: Sister, I mean that situation, like yeah, and Catcher in

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Speaker 5: You didn't know him. How long have you known him for?

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Speaker 5: I feel like you've known him forever. That's so weird.

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Speaker 1: It's funny how that works with certain people, you know,

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Speaker 5: Sam.

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Speaker 6: I thought Sam wit were. I thought they knew each

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, just like that, you started a

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Speaker 2: Coming on, I didn't know what because I had a

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Speaker 6: Know that.

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Speaker 1: And he's right there and his name is jac You

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Speaker 2: some of a banger of a show.

440
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: There's nothing like those those old WB days. There was

441
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: nothing like that was like the don ostrof Era. When

442
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 1: she was running the network, we had Dawson's Creek, we

443
00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,159
Speaker 1: had Seventh Heaven we had one Tree Hill was like

444
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: one of our last shows.

445
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, and they're formidable villains because I while watching this episode,

446
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 10: I was like, not that I don't always think it,

447
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 10: but I was like, how are they going to get

448
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 10: out of this?

449
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 3: I really do not understand.

450
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: If probably was playing a game in Star Wars, which

451
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: I think we did all the time with like superheroes,

452
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 2: you'd be like, well, Superman strong in this because he's

453
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 2: done that, and Batman can do this. With all of

454
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: our villains, I'm always sort of like, Okay, how strong

455
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: are they? Sized up to different people? And inquisitors are

456
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: very strong, and then to see like them hold a

457
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: ship with their powers and like, okay, obviously they're incredibly strong,

458
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 2: and knowing that, how are the three of us four?

459
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,440
Speaker 2: But Chopper Tropper really goes through some stuff which I

460
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,479
Speaker 2: also wrote down. Droids can't feel physical pain. Correct, they

461
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: can emotionally be hurt, but they can't physically be hurt.

462
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 5: But do they have emotions?

463
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,880
Speaker 4: I mean technically speaking it's a droid.

464
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,119
Speaker 1: No.

465
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 4: I mean I would say yes, because you know, he

466
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:22,919
Speaker 4: gets he's happy, sometimes he's he's gets gruntled. Yeah, But

467
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,399
Speaker 4: technically speaking, why would a droid have emotions.

468
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,760
Speaker 3: IgG, It's it's true.

469
00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 2: Like I'm like, I first wrote like they can't even

470
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,640
Speaker 2: be I wrote first droids can't be upset, but then

471
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:36,959
Speaker 2: they can.

472
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,639
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, so then they must have emotions

473
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 3: because Chopper's.

474
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 2: Surelyopper is always upset exactly, But then like they can't

475
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 2: feel physical paint correct, but.

476
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 5: Then draft and stuff like, but.

477
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: Nobody hurt a nerve.

478
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 4: I agree with you. Technologically that doesn't make any sense.

479
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 4: But in the show, he's like, you know, he like

480
00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,640
Speaker 4: gets electrocuted and.

481
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 2: Like Trumper stands are going to be after us, But

482
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 2: I don't think you can. If you don't have nerves,

483
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be able to. But let's ask jac has

484
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 2: to say.

485
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 6: I wonder I mean K twos so when he gets

486
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 6: knocked out an and or and reconstructed, I'm sure he

487
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 6: didn't love being blown to bits.

488
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know.

489
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 1: Jac just when he thought it may be an easy

490
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: episode for him, he's going to have some stuff done wrapped.

491
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, I like that you brought that up. That's like,

492
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: how are they going to get out of it? And

493
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 1: fittingly enough, it felt like this episode felt like a

494
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: mix of like the movie Alien and like an episode

495
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: of Buffy, you know, but it's like if they didn't

496
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: have Buffy to help him out, It's like if Willow

497
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: and like Faith and Dawn had their own side quest

498
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 1: and they had to go against Spike and Angel, like

499
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: what are they going to do against these two Golias?

500
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: And then they go head on and then this is

501
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: a nice segue into like zeb Zeb has a great

502
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 1: arc in this in this episode where I loved this episode,

503
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: he realizes that he is like good enough because even

504
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: that moment of self doubt of like what can I do?

505
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: And like and he's like, no, I can't. If I'm

506
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 1: gonna if I'm gonna go out, I'm i go off

507
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: trying to save my friends or say my family and

508
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 1: say my siblings. And I thought that was such a

509
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: great turning point for his character.

510
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he's like personal growth, mister mayleu run or

511
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 6: whatever I was gonna say.

512
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 1: And he's so receptive to like these lessons because Rex

513
00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: tells him earlier it's like, hey, it's it's sometimes it's

514
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: brain over brawn, Like we know you're the muscle, but

515
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: know that you have a brain in there too, So

516
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: to go back to wisard of Ouz like you've had

517
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 1: the brain all along, and I think he needed to

518
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: understand that, Yeah, I don't have to rely on my

519
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: my my brute force, like I can outsmart people, uh

520
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: if I have to, and which he does in this one,

521
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 1: which is really cool.

522
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, hug Yeah, absolutely. I think it's funny how he

523
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: doesn't understand Chopper like for this part of the show

524
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 3: and I forget that and he's like because he says

525
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 3: to He's like, well, you can understand him, and I

526
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: was like, sometimes not, like that doesn't.

527
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 5: Make any sense.

528
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 4: Either doesn't make me If you understand them, you understand

529
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 4: the whor you don't.

530
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 5: Right, We've talked about this on the show.

531
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: Although I mean, put me in a conversation in Spanish,

532
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 2: I would say I understand until I don't.

533
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,360
Speaker 5: Okay, So like you speak you.

534
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 4: Like a little bit of drawing his throwing because I'm like,

535
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,199
Speaker 4: we've had this conversation before on this show about this

536
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 4: very thing. And obviously you know Sabina is like a polyglot, right,

537
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 4: Like she goes and talks to various people from far

538
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 4: corners of the galaxy and she's able to speak their language.

539
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 4: Or at least understand them. And obviously Haarrah and Chopper

540
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 4: understand each other. But and you have figured out some

541
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,320
Speaker 4: like Ezra can sort of and then Zeb's been around

542
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 4: for forever and he doesn't understand a thing like so

543
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 4: is it just like some people are but you know,

544
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: as in life, some people are just better at languages

545
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 4: than others.

546
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 5: And how do they like?

547
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: They're like they live together, they spend all their time together.

548
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: And does Kanaan understand Chop.

549
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 5: I don't know that.

550
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 6: I feel like he into It's much like I think

551
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 6: if Ezra it might be a Jedi thing that they

552
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 6: get a sense of what he's saying without knowing.

553
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 4: See like I under I we like I to being

554
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 4: actually understands, whereas maybe Taylor, oh my gosh, sorry, maybe

555
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: Ezra and Kanan, like you said, into it what he's

556
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 4: saying versus actually understanding what is being said.

557
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 3: I'm with that.

558
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 6: Give me one second, you guys. I'm getting a very

559
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 6: strange phone call.

560
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just prank calling your guys.

561
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: Don't worry all you listeners. Now this is what's happening.

562
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 3: And her phone number is oh god.

563
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: But we can make this episode a very listen to

564
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 2: episode if we just dropped that.

565
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: It's like you're bringing back There was these guys on

566
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: the nineties called the Jerky Boys, and their whole thing

567
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: is remember that, yeah.

568
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: Dogs, I will quote you that entire phone call.

569
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: I had all those cassette tapes. I used to listen

570
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: to those on like you have to quiet. I had

571
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: to secretly do because if my parents found out I

572
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: was listening.

573
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 4: Sure, Taylor, you've never heard Jerky Boys.

574
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 5: You can't.

575
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: You did it when you said dr Boys. I didn't

576
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: know when you did it. I've heard all.

577
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Yes, everything good Vanessa, Yes, okay, No, you're good. You're good.

578
00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: Like I said, it was just tailor. Taylor just revealed

579
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: to the list it was actually just him. It's very

580
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: much like the movie when a stranger calls except you. Yeah,

581
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: I was just nice. I want to talk a little

582
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: bit about uh so Rex and Canaan because they touched

583
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: on it a little bit the last episode where because

584
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: you see remember Rex's teaching as we're like, oh, this

585
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: is where you aim, this is where you do this,

586
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: and you get this one shot of Canaan a little

587
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: bit of like this jealousy factor of wait, hold on,

588
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: that's that's my pad of one, that's that's my little brother.

589
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: Don't don't take It's almost like to bring it back

590
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: to our sports that we like to talk about. It's

591
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: almost like you have these two overbearing coaches or sports

592
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: parents that are trying to project their almost trauma on

593
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: Ezra and correct their mistakes. That's what I really saw

594
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: on that. And and this psychologist has a lot of

595
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 1: I think he's controversial with some psychologists like Carl Young,

596
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 1: Carl Jung. He talks about the shadow thing, where your

597
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: shadows come back to creep on others because you are

598
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 1: projecting your past traumas onto somebody else. So it's the

599
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: sports p and who never made it to the NFL

600
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 1: is going to put pressure on their kid, Yes, the

601
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 1: best quarterback, Well, I I feel like no, no. So

602
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:09,959
Speaker 1: I just feel like that's where my mind went to

603
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: when I see Rex and Kanaan, who I do think

604
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: had the best of intentions but different ways to go

605
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: about it. And then poor Azra is just stuck in

606
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: the middle of I respect both of these guys immensely,

607
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: but you know, you're both telling me kind of opposite things.

608
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: I thought that was a really cool complexity that they

609
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: added to the characters.

610
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: It's also kind of funny because like a season ago,

611
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 4: Canaan was like so reluctant to take on a padawan

612
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 4: because he didn't feel that he was worthy of, you know, teaching,

613
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 4: teaching someone the ways of the Jedi. And here he

614
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: is like feeling jelly that someone else is.

615
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 5: Trying to like mentor him.

616
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 4: But also he has like deep feeling no matter how

617
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 4: he feels about Rex specifically, now, he also has like

618
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 4: a lot of feelings and resentment towards clones in general, rightfully, so,

619
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 4: so I think there might be some element of.

620
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 5: That as well.

621
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 4: Right it's not just somebody else teaching him, it's a clone.

622
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

623
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 5: Do you think that plays a part?

624
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 3: I think absolutely. I think.

625
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: Because his feelings towards the clones that even more so

626
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,239
Speaker 2: I think anyone come in and saying anything to him,

627
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: even when we get like Mal and that aspect of it.

628
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 2: But then there is a thing because he's fine if

629
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: it's within the Ghost crew obviously, But yeah, I think

630
00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: that dynamic is interesting. What obviously he holds on too,

631
00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: I was gonna say generationally, but not just historically. I

632
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: also think between the two of them. I wrote this down.

633
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: This is a very five cent thought, but it's just

634
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: hilarious at the end. What the animators did with Canaan

635
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: and Rex. The amount of time times they touched their

636
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: chin is like comical, no way, and then Rex does

637
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: it and then and then his hands does it again

638
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: and then does it again. If you watch it, I

639
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: was like, why do they keep I get it that

640
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 2: they're in deep thought, but it is I don't know.

641
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 3: It made me laugh.

642
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: That's also a power dynamic too, because sometimes when you're

643
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: in conflict with some new kind of mirror what they're doing.

644
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: So they cross their arms, You cross their arms. So

645
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: it's like I maybe like that was part of it,

646
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: but yeah, I thought of Cobra Kai because there's a

647
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: when it's like you have Johnny Lawrence and and Daniel

648
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: LaRusso and then I one there's one season where LaRusso

649
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: starts teaching Johnny student and Johnny gets all jealous. He's

650
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 1: like like anybody but that guy, And I feel like

651
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: what you're talking about there with with Canaan and Rex,

652
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, if you want to learn from other people,

653
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: just anyone but the clone because because he's obviously still

654
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: got unresolved trauma that he hasn't processed, and Canaan is

655
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: almost like this canvas for their unprocessed trauma, to which

656
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I'm out here. I'm gonna go with

657
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: you guys to get the metal supplies. I'm good. You

658
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: know which which I think? You know it's mirrors, you know,

659
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: a couple of things. Because one it's like you think

660
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: of Luke Skywalker who really just had to listen to

661
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: ben kenobi obi Wan Kenobe but like and but then

662
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: you have, for the most part, you had Anakin that

663
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: just said obi wan. But then Palpatine comes, like comes

664
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: to the pray. It's like not that this is that,

665
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: but it's like when you have two different voices telling

666
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: you two different things. In this case, the two instructors

667
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: have good intentions. It's just that's a lot for to

668
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: put on someone like Ezra, you know, because everyone it's

669
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: like everyone sees his greatness and his pretent. It's like

670
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: his potential for greatness, you know.

671
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: It seems like everyone does.

672
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: That's right right now is the guy who who he's

673
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: an arch man?

674
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: Everyone's telling.

675
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 1: He probably would be on face for they, But it

676
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: is like that again, my default is I go to sports.

677
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, this is the this could be the

678
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: goat right here, So now everyone wants their two cents

679
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: in terms of how does he get there? Sort of thing.

680
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: Something I wrote down is like it makes sense movies

681
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: are as short as they need to be, and we

682
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 2: need We're going to show a training scene one time

683
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: and like quick essentially that we've seen in Star Wars

684
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: that training is the Jedi and the Padawan. Do the

685
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: Padawan ever train on their own? And by that I

686
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: mean like there's something early on in the episode where

687
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: I came to the defense a little bit Ezra, when

688
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: Canaan's like, uh, wants him to do some training, He's like, no,

689
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: I don't really like it's not working, and he gets

690
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: upset right away because it didn't happen. But like, I

691
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: remember that feeling playing sports, playing music, even acting with

692
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: certain like if I was going through early on with

693
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: the coach or like learning different songs, and when I'm

694
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: doing in front of them and I'm doing exactly what

695
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: they're saying, I'm like, well, yeah, I'm not getting I'm

696
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 2: going to go home and I'm gonna do it myself

697
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: and learn the way that I learn, and then I'll

698
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: come to its. You can you can critique, you can

699
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: teach it, but now there's no pressure I can. Especially

700
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: if I have to do a character that is a

701
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: different voice, I like to work on that on my

702
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: own and then come forth with it rather than kind

703
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 2: of follow my face in front of someone over and over.

704
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: It constricts you a little bit.

705
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 2: And in Star Wars I just sort of always see

706
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: I don't know when Canan's like pressure him do it

707
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: and then doesn't work and he's like, well great, I

708
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: don't want to do this anymore. I'm like, well, yeah,

709
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 2: because you keep pushing him to do this thing. If

710
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: he just trained on his own a little bit, I

711
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: wonder if he would be more inclined, because then we

712
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 2: see at the end of the episode he's like, let

713
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,040
Speaker 2: me see if I can get the lightsaber back, and

714
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 2: he does, and it's fine because there he needs to

715
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 2: and it's to help his friends rather than to like

716
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: satisfy this dude who wants to do it on his time.

717
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 3: Does that make sense?

718
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:52,280
Speaker 4: Mm hm, just like practicing practice, which you know, I agree,

719
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 4: like you, I grew up playing piano.

720
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 5: Don't ask me to play you anything.

721
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:58,439
Speaker 3: Now, it's really sad.

722
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 5: It is bad, it's really bad.

723
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 4: It's embarrassing really, but you know, you go, you take

724
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 4: your piano lesson, but then there's so much that has

725
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: to happen if you're going to improve ever, you know,

726
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 4: like you have to go home and practice it. There's

727
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 4: muscle memory, right, not just like it's it's muscle memory,

728
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: but it's also sort of like just trying to perfect

729
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 4: your craft, and that's not going to happen only while

730
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: you have a coach coaching you or a teacher teaching you.

731
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 4: There has to be like follow through and taking it

732
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,240
Speaker 4: home with you. So you're asking, do do pada ones

733
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 4: do homework?

734
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 2: Because we rarely see them on their own doing something.

735
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: Even I'm thinking Luke like he has destroyed with them

736
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: more like you know what I mean, there's always sort

737
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 2: of someone.

738
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: Else walking through it.

739
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 5: But I think Vanessa m I know, well, I know,

740
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what they're called.

741
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 6: JC will know, but they're these sort of balls that

742
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 6: shooting you. I know Luke worked with and you know,

743
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 6: you put the helmet on and you have to sense

744
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 6: when you're going to be shot. I know those things

745
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 6: sometimes Obi Wan was there. But I feel like that's

746
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,959
Speaker 6: something Patawan's would do on their own, is to work

747
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 6: with that machine to get a sense of using that

748
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 6: instinct instead of seeing anything. I know, that's kind of

749
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 6: a training exercise. I don't know that it happens exclusively

750
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 6: with a Jedi master or that's the kind of thing

751
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 6: you could do on your own.

752
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 3: I don't know.

753
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 6: JC will know, he knows everything. I'd like to know

754
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 6: why all the inquisitors teeth are so fantastic.

755
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: They got a d plan of I mean.

756
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 4: The.

757
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 6: Fifth Brother his teeth or just and so was the

758
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 6: other inquisitor who you know, May he rest in peace.

759
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 6: There's just something about the dental plan on that planet

760
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 6: that is pretty proud.

761
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 5: They're very Are you talking Jason Isaac's inquisitor.

762
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, that got Those things were like daggers, like little

763
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,240
Speaker 4: tiny daggers.

764
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 5: That's the terrifying Yeah, I mean, I.

765
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 6: Guess, uh, it's to the species. But I have JC

766
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 6: to comment on the dental plan anyway, just not not

767
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 6: as heavy or spiritually profound is what we were just discussing.

768
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 6: And yet I did notice a dental situation.

769
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: For the whyss have such I mean props of them

770
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: for not having ginger btis.

771
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 2: So yeah, they get people to join the empire, we

772
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: will give you dental insurance.

773
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: There it is joint. But he kind of looks like

774
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 3: Fantas to me.

775
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes, yes, I agree. Yeah, but when does

776
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,720
Speaker 5: Thanos look like.

777
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: I'm going to go with brother Das?

778
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 2: Fine?

779
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 9: Well.

780
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 5: I also I loved let's.

781
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 3: Put the pull up what people said, let's see what

782
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: people say.

783
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 6: I loved that everyone got creative in this episode to

784
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 6: get through, like how are we going to get out

785
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 6: of this?

786
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 10: Meaning?

787
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: You know.

788
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 5: When he says just keep your chin up, you know.

789
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 6: That's a clue to look above because he's going to

790
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 6: be hanging from the ceiling or whatever. But that you

791
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 6: guys learned to communicate and that you know, as a viewer,

792
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 6: I of course am not in the scene, but I

793
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 6: was please let them know that.

794
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 5: Mister maylurun is Zev and like, sure enough.

795
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 6: You did, but you know, it was it really did

796
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 6: bristle with Oh God, I pray that they work this

797
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,439
Speaker 6: through and say the right things like when Sabine says, oh,

798
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 6: we're good, don't come, which is not what they want,

799
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 6: and then you give them what they want.

800
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 5: That tactic I thought was interesting as well.

801
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 6: I don't know, it just felt like a lot of

802
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 6: this built up in a way that was really captivating,

803
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 6: and I was curious how they were ever gonna get

804
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 6: through it.

805
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 5: It really was constructed really well in that way.

806
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: Agreed, And I think it's it's like it's nice to

807
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 4: not have a clear as a viewer, to not immediately

808
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 4: go okay, well, obviously everything obviously everything is going to

809
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 4: be fine. We know this well until later until later season,

810
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 4: but just to the you know it not just being

811
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: handed to you as an audience member, to like, Okay,

812
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: this is what's going to happen. I already get it.

813
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, that's that's a nice feeling to

814
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 4: have to be like or to get to have no

815
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 4: idea how this is going to shake out. Makes it

816
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 4: a more interesting watch for sure.

817
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's a twenty two minute episode, Like there's

818
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: so like all those layering. That's what's really cool about it.

819
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: Like it's a quick watch, but there's so much going on,

820
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: But it's really just this character expansion. You know, there's

821
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,439
Speaker 1: action obviously, you know with the droids and with seven

822
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:52,879
Speaker 1: Sister and fifth brother and they fly away, but it's

823
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: really just the character building that made this so interesting.

824
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: And what I'd like to see is, you know, remember

825
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: Lineking one and a half where they showed from like

826
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: Simon and Pumba's perspective. I'd like to see a full

827
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: episode of what was going on on the Ghosts while

828
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: Rex and Canaan are going Atik and Djarik as like

829
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: Harah has to be the Phil Jackson and like manage

830
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: all these egos and all these like vulnerability, because that's

831
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 1: really what Hara is on top of, like being the

832
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: leader of the ghost Crew is like, which is also

833
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: what a head coach does. A head coach has like

834
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: managed these like locker room egos. So I just feel

835
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: like that must have been a very interesting thing for

836
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 1: her to have to witness these two guys kind of

837
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: go at it, you know, with their vulnerability kind of

838
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: rise into the forefront, you know. Interesting thought, just saying

839
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: like you could do a whole like we can rush

840
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: them on the whole thing. To go back to Kurosawa,

841
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: It's just like we can get the whole other perspective

842
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: of what was going on while this is going Just

843
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: like the last episode, what if we just stayed with

844
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: Hara the whole time while she had the power down,

845
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: the ghost, everything was going on. Selos. I just think,

846
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 1: to me, it's like those kind of stories are interesting,

847
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 1: like very much like a Danny Boyle or like a

848
00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: Richard link Leader movie. How they make the characters the play.

849
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: I think that's uh, you could do that with these

850
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: characters because they're so well thought out, you know.

851
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: Agreed, agreed, Yeah, these are all my notes. I've I've

852
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: gone through all my notes on this one.

853
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: Well, we're on the same Google doc, Taylor. I am

854
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,359
Speaker 1: actually just reading your stuff right here. You're the blue

855
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: font I know.

856
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I put Star Wars Chess. I think that's

857
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: called Jarik. Don't need you on that one, JC, you

858
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 2: don't know anything about Jarik. I need you on that one, JC,

859
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 2: And yeah, literally that's everything I want.

860
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: I was going to say, you're the Bobby Fisher of

861
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: like Jark, But I guess we can throw that storyline away.

862
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 6: But I guess I'll have a JC question here. The

863
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 6: the medical facility that they found that's left over from

864
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 6: the Clone war, what, uh, I wonder if there's.

865
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 5: Any significance to that.

866
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 6: I don't I don't recall I mean, there are many

867
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 6: many episodes of the Clone Wars that that I watched,

868
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 6: and I just wonder if it did. Was it a

869
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 6: banger for certain people? Like, Oh, I remember that base,

870
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 6: Look how it's torn apart. Remember what happened there? Yeah,

871
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 6: I have no idea.

872
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 5: I don't.

873
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 6: I don't recall that there was anything spectacular previously that

874
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 6: it happened.

875
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 5: It wasn't necessarily a nod. There were many of them,

876
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 5: I assume.

877
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 6: So anyway, I'm curious if JC knows if that held

878
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 6: some sort of significance.

879
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: I think let's find out right now. So I think

880
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: that's a very segue to JC to talk about all

881
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: that stuff. And also you probably have some He'll probably

882
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 1: have some stuff to talk about with like these inquisitors. Yeah,

883
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: looking for four sensitive children or for the young four

884
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: sensitive people like Ezra. So there we go.

885
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 9: Okay, let's see what do I have.

886
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 8: First thing I D nine enjoyed, John, you mentioned its

887
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 8: reference to a McQuary concept.

888
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 9: It is squat like.

889
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,720
Speaker 8: The McQuary probe droid, but the McQuary or the McQuary

890
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 8: did not have the like large red eye on the

891
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 8: macquarie color scheme and design was looked more similar to

892
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 8: what we actually saw on Empire Strikes Back. We talked

893
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 8: about Sarah Michelle Geller and why she was picked basic.

894
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 4: Why well, but I just want to be clear, I

895
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 4: wasn't like suggesting that we found our clip. Sorry.

896
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 8: Dave Filoni had said that Sarah was a huge Star

897
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 8: Wars fan and had a ton of passionate enthusiasm for

898
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 8: the franchise. That really made him excited to bring her

899
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 8: into the fold. And then it was easier to get

900
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 8: to her as well because of her husband, so their

901
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 8: family was kind of already in the family is kind

902
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 8: of the on the record official what they've said. Do

903
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 8: droids feel pain from a certain point of view, right,

904
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 8: what's pain?

905
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 6: You know?

906
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 8: They could just turn it off, right they right, they

907
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 8: would just shut down that system. But I think, you know,

908
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 8: droids are made, particularly some droids are made to emulate humans,

909
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 8: and we've discussed on a previous the episode. The longer

910
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 8: a droid goes without having his memory wipe, the more

911
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 8: human it gets, the more it learns. So I think, yes,

912
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 8: they feel pain, but they don't really have to feel pain.

913
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 9: I don't think.

914
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 8: I think it's more of like a intellectual input of

915
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 8: like oh, I am sensing that there is a problem here.

916
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 3: Less than sociopathic.

917
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it's where AI is going to be.

918
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, way more sociopathic.

919
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 3: Liar ouch hurt exactly.

920
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 8: Wow, does a Padawan train on their own? Like homework, Vanessa,

921
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 8: the device you were looking for, the words we're training remote?

922
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 8: I can't pull us specific example from my brain of like, oh,

923
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 8: here are Padawans on the side competing, like you know,

924
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 8: like Harry Potter people being like, well, my magic is

925
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,800
Speaker 8: stronger than your magic type of things. But I'm sure

926
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 8: that they do. There are references to like Padawan Young

927
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 8: Youngling games where they compete for to find a master

928
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 8: to train them. There's also and I'm sure it's not canon,

929
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 8: but the Young Jedi Adventures cartoon on Disney Plus, in

930
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 8: which I think d Bradley Baker does the voice of

931
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 8: Nubs on that show who we just had on. And

932
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 8: then there's also a book anybody who really wants to

933
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 8: dig into this called Star Wars A Jedi Path a

934
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 8: Manual for Students of the Force, which is a book

935
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 8: that is written as kind of like a found footage

936
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 8: journal of a Jedi and what you have to do

937
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 8: to train to be a Jedi. So if you really

938
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 8: want to train to be a Jedi on Earth, you

939
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 8: can buy that book off Amazon and learn for yourself

940
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 8: and and be the first known case of a Jedi

941
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 8: training on his own.

942
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually dropping an audiobook and yeah, and sign

943
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 2: up for my program.

944
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 3: It's a twelve week course.

945
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: I'm glad to have audible subscription. Then there we got credit.

946
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 3: It's only money.

947
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 9: No, it's a lot of reference. Good job.

948
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 8: Inquisitor Dental, so there's Unfortunately, unlike the Celestin barbershop of

949
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 8: weeks past, I didn't find anything on Inquisitor Dental. But

950
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 8: I would say, just thinking about it, I believe inquisitors

951
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 8: were supposed to be kind of lesser powerful like Sith.

952
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 8: They're not people that are as strong as Darth Vader

953
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 8: or Count Duker, or their abilities don't match those of

954
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 8: like a true Sith. And also the rule of two

955
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 8: dictates there can only be too Sith at any one time.

956
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,760
Speaker 8: So my theory is is that a true Sith lord

957
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 8: like Darth Sidius or Darth Maul don't have good teeth,

958
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 8: and their teeth the Dark Side like rotted them kind

959
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,399
Speaker 8: of from the inside out. But an inquisitor because they're

960
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 8: not as deep into the dark side of the force,

961
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 8: probably don't have the same dental issues that a full

962
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 8: on Sith lord would have.

963
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 9: Nice, I love this firs.

964
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 4: We just acknowledge how great it is to have JC

965
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 4: on the show.

966
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: That is so good.

967
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 1: Oh man, So inquisitors are like CW villains. And then

968
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: the truth Sith like criterion collection.

969
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, I.

970
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 8: Didn't have anything on the medical facility specific to this episode,

971
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 8: so perhaps it was something in there. I don't even

972
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 8: know if verbally in this episode they identify it to

973
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 8: even link it to another thing, so it would have

974
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 8: to be a visual queue, which I did not pick

975
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 8: up on. And then the the other two things I

976
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 8: have from this episode is when Chopper is down and

977
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,720
Speaker 8: out for the count, zeb kind of gives them an elbow,

978
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 8: which is the same elbow that Han Solo throws to

979
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,439
Speaker 8: the Millennium falcon in the Empire strikes back to get

980
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 8: it to boot back up, which I.

981
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,919
Speaker 9: Thought was like a very subtle little nod.

982
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 8: And then I had a question for you guys, because

983
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 8: when I was watching this episode in particular, I felt

984
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:10,759
Speaker 8: as if there was definitely like I heard the podcast

985
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 8: in the episode with the banter between Ezra and Sabine,

986
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 8: and then famously in at the end of a New Hope,

987
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 8: when Luke has blown up the desk start and he's

988
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 8: getting out of the cockpit of the X Wing, he

989
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 8: doesn't yell Leah. He yells Carrie. In the movie like

990
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 8: you can hear it. He yells Carrie when when they're

991
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 8: all celebrating.

992
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,840
Speaker 3: Wait and Mark part of the movie.

993
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 8: So the X Wing is parked and Luke is climbing

994
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 8: out of the cockpit and all the people are running

995
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 8: to his x Wing.

996
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,919
Speaker 9: Luke doesn't yell Lea. He yells Carrie like.

997
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 5: That and they leave that audience and it's in.

998
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 8: And Mark Hamill is confirmed that he actually said Carrie.

999
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 8: But it's such a joyous, hysterical scream. I think they

1000
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 8: were like, yeah, that sounds enough like lea. Have you

1001
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 8: guys when you were in the booth, was there ever

1002
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 8: a moment where you guys are going back and forth

1003
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 8: where instead of saying like Ezra, knock it off, you

1004
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 8: were like, Taylor stop it.

1005
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 4: No. I mean I said Taylor stop it a lot,

1006
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 4: but not when we were actually in a scene.

1007
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember that either. But

1008
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 2: I see what you mean, like you get so familiar

1009
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 2: with it.

1010
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a great question because we do speak to

1011
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 4: each other. I don't know if this is evident to

1012
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 4: anyone else. I'm assuming it is anyone listening. Taylor and

1013
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: I really do speak to each other like Ezra and

1014
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 4: Sabine do. So it's a very good question, jac because,

1015
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 4: like you would think that could have easily happened, because

1016
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 4: our report pretty much mirrors Sabine and Ezra's pretty closely.

1017
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 4: I would say it helps because you have your dialogue

1018
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 4: right in front of your face when you're at the microphone. So,

1019
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: but no, I don't think we ever had like a

1020
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 4: like a WHOOPSI Daisy, I meant to say Taylor or Ezra,

1021
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 4: and I said, Taylor said, I do it in life

1022
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,760
Speaker 4: all the time. Clearly, I constantly conflate har and Vanessa

1023
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 4: and you know, Canaan and party. Anyway, Yeah, happens all

1024
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 4: the time. The only person that doesn't happen with is Steve.

1025
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 4: I never accidentally called Steve zeb I guess maybe because

1026
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 4: it's a farther departure. I don't know. Maybe do you

1027
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: guys ever accidentally call Steve zeb or zeb Steve.

1028
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 2: But people who've come up and talked about the podcast,

1029
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 2: they always say it's like they always say, listening to

1030
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 2: the podcast is like watching an extension of the show,

1031
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 2: very funny, Like it's that's cool.

1032
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love that, I feel.

1033
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 6: I'll just share a quick little story. When I was

1034
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 6: in Scrubs, I was in the episode after the pilot.

1035
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 6: I played Becky, a nurse who makes it difficult for

1036
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 6: Zach Braff's character to get with Sarah Chalk, and I

1037
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 6: played basketball with them, and if you google it, it's

1038
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 6: really it's a it's really a special scene. I'm wearing

1039
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 6: polyester shorts and knee high socks and very aggressive. But

1040
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 6: when we were filming it, I screamed Zack instead of

1041
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 6: his character name. So I feel a little less unprofessional.

1042
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 5: For having it because I was like, oh, I'm fired.

1043
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 5: I'm so fired right now, because like, you can't do

1044
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 5: that on an set. Oh my god. I wanted to

1045
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 5: kill myself. And and yet now that I hear that

1046
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,239
Speaker 5: Mark Hamill did it, I'm like, see, it's all you know,

1047
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,240
Speaker 5: it happens.

1048
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 3: Uh, it's good company.

1049
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're in good company.

1050
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is worth googling. In fact, I might send

1051
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 6: you guys the scene. My my basketball game is pretty rugged.

1052
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, social clip here we go.

1053
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 4: Oh, well you've got Taylor, You've got clips of Tailor

1054
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 4: playing basketball, and now we'll have clips of Vanessa playing basketball.

1055
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 5: I'll get you that clip. It's it's pretty spectacular.

1056
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 4: Closest thing I have is playing quidditch. Nice what I

1057
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 4: played Quidditch? Yeah? I love it's like the real life quidditch,

1058
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 4: like people play. Please, what do you know that there's

1059
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 4: actual people actually play.

1060
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 3: Quid Quidditch is flying on a broom, right, but.

1061
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,720
Speaker 4: There's a real life for jac Can you fact check me, please?

1062
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:32,720
Speaker 4: There's a there's way.

1063
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, like it's like quidditch.

1064
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, we'll take that up with the people playing quidditch.

1065
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 4: But it's a real like right now. Anyway, I had

1066
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 4: to play it, and let me tell you, I was

1067
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 4: the absolute worst worst actor trying.

1068
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 5: To play quidditch.

1069
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 4: It was like one hundred degrees in Atlanta in the summer.

1070
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: It was like one hundred percent humidity, it felt like,

1071
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 4: and everybody else was like pretty good and I was

1072
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 4: pretty bad, like really bad. And there's one scene where

1073
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 4: I have to actually like throw You're running around with

1074
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 4: a broom broom between your legs. Okay, it's not cute

1075
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 4: and I have to like one handed, like throw the ball?

1076
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,359
Speaker 4: Is that what it's called? And I'm sure there's another

1077
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 4: for it?

1078
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 3: Maybe, sure?

1079
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 4: Yeah that through the middle hoop. I don't know how

1080
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 4: to play footage, and it admittedly took me so many

1081
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 4: takes to do it right. And but the but the

1082
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 4: you know, thanks to editors and editing, it looks like

1083
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 4: I can play foodache.

1084
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The truth is what the final

1085
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: edit was, and that's what people see. So that's what

1086
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,479
Speaker 1: we go with. So let's just go with the behind

1087
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:47,400
Speaker 1: the very athletic exactly. Well, thank you, Jason, unless you

1088
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: have more, uh. And I did know that about Mark

1089
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: Hamill because I remember that was one of those things

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Speaker 1: that you don't know where the information came from, but

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Speaker 1: that information circulated like when I was a kid, like

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Speaker 1: somehow someone knew and you found out. You go to

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Speaker 1: your VHS and you're like, oh, cause it sounds like

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Speaker 1: you're saying hey, Like it's so like it's not like

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Speaker 1: very specifically, you can't really hear it until you know

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Speaker 1: to listen for Carrie. They're like, oh, he totally called

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Speaker 1: her that, So it's I think it was one of

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Speaker 1: those things where George is like, well, no one's going

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Speaker 1: to notice, and I don't think people did until they did,

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Speaker 1: and then that's interests what it is. But I do

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Speaker 1: remember getting that info. It's like, hey, did you know

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Speaker 1: Mark Hamill didn't call her Lea? He did this? Like wait,

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about? We all went home to

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Speaker 1: make sure.

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Speaker 4: So's I've never heard that, and I have to go

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Speaker 4: back in line.

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Speaker 8: You also have to think when when they were editing

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Speaker 8: Star Wars in nineteen seventy six. In seventy seven, home

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Speaker 8: video wasn't like a thing yet, and people didn't see

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Speaker 8: movies in the movie theater three thousand times like they

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Speaker 8: saw Star Wars. So George is probably like, well, this

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Speaker 8: little movie is going to fail. A few thousand people

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Speaker 8: are going to see it. How many of them are

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Speaker 8: going to pick up on it? People didn't anticipate, like

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Speaker 8: John and I watching Star Wars on VHS at home

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Speaker 8: over and over and over and over and picking up

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Speaker 8: every little issue that it had. So that's probably why

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Speaker 8: he got away with it.

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Speaker 4: Sure twit he inn't because we know about.

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Speaker 1: It now it's out there all right. Uh Well, that

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Speaker 1: wraps up another This was a fun episode to talk about.

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Speaker 1: This was a fun on. It was fun to on

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Speaker 1: wrap a lot of things in this one. We'll be

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Speaker 1: back next week as always, everybody. But until then, keep

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Speaker 1: on listening, keep on supporting, and we will support you

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Speaker 1: right back. But as always, Taylor, what are you?

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Speaker 3: Men of the music?

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Speaker 1: Potter Rebellion is produced in partnership with iHeart Podcasts Producing,

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Speaker 1: hosted by Vanessa Marshall, Tia Surkar, Taylor Gray, and John

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Speaker 1: Ley Brody Executive producer and in house star Wars guru

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Speaker 1: slash back checker j c Riefenberg. Our music was composed

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Speaker 1: by Mikey Flash. Our cover art was created by Neil

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Speaker 1: Fraser of Neil Fraser Designs. Special thanks to Hally Frey

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Kaufman over at iHeart, Ivan krask or At,

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Speaker 1: Willie Morrison, Devor Trasy Canobio, George Lucas for creating this

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Speaker 1: universe we love some much and of course all of

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Speaker 1: our amazing listeners. Follow us on Instagram at Potter Rebellion

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