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Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the news. All kinds of

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Speaker 2: news is happening. Uh, let's see what should we talk

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Speaker 2: about first? I guess we can keep it sexy like

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Speaker 2: we've been doing the last few shows. Usher Side Chick

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Speaker 2: accuser wants forty million dollars.

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Speaker 5: Now, whew, the cause of the brick went up.

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Speaker 4: The cost of the brick went up. That's right.

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Speaker 2: She wants forty million dollars because she tested positive for

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Speaker 5: Now mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: And you know what I understand.

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Speaker 2: And allegedly that he is allegedly uh, the bridesmaid of

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Speaker 4: Oh mm hmmm.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 4: That's pretty it's pretty epic. A bridesmaid.

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Speaker 2: I know Tamika somewhere sitting around in the house, just

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Speaker 2: Now called to tams E, the same woman allegedly receiver

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Speaker 2: million dollars. The twenty million is for negligence, battery, and

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Speaker 2: emotional in distress. Oh the toma said forty, but it

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Speaker 2: No comment from Usher nor his wife, Grace Miguel, who

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Speaker 2: You know she is living, you know, Grace know if

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Speaker 5: Right, and she might be positive, I mean disclosed it right.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm.

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Speaker 2: The evil that is done in the dark will one

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Speaker 4: Saying, to the day you talk about me being country,

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Speaker 4: Say ship that pisses everybody off.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that's the the under what should be

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Speaker 4: He discussed.

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Speaker 2: They asked him like, well, how you know would you

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Speaker 4: He said, she'll have to let him fuck a couple

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Speaker 5: What mm hmm, he said, it's on the air.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm, mm hmmm, mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: Then you wonder why some of the best female mcs,

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Speaker 4: Now, I'm just saying, he said.

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Speaker 4: You know, I gotta be honest with you. She looking good.

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Speaker 4: I'm spending so much money on her photo shoots. I

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Speaker 5: You don't own her, nigga.

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Speaker 4: Uh this rapper that he has not signed.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you know one of the things I would say,

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Speaker 2: I mean one that's a really weird thing to say

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Speaker 2: He said that in a rap uh and mostly like

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Speaker 4: What I do find kind of interesting though, is.

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Speaker 2: A lot of this ship that deals with art like

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Speaker 4: People.

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Speaker 2: People really have such a low standard of professionalism, right

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Speaker 2: because technically your your you run a business, you own

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Speaker 2: when something happen, they're gonna all turn on this woman

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Speaker 4: Bitch, you ain't know what it was. Da da da.

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Speaker 4: But but but real talk, why would.

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 4: Like you fired for that.

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Speaker 2: But because it's music, it's like seeing as a different

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Speaker 4: So niggas think they can get away with it.

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Speaker 2: But this falls back into something I've been talking about

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Speaker 4: To talk about it. Black dudes in the public eye

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Speaker 2: The training, it seems like the touch discuss this shit

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Speaker 2: because white people, just white dudes who are just as

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Speaker 2: But let's say they were and Howard Stern made some

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Speaker 2: straight up rapist and they wouldn't say that ship because

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Speaker 4: But yeah, this is this is when I read it.

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Speaker 2: I just like that's stupid, right, That's why people go

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Speaker 3: Right, And if I was a woman, did have it

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Speaker 3: to be over anything sponsoring him or associating him, cut.

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Speaker 5: That ship off.

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Speaker 3: If you're a man, you know what I'm saying, right,

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Speaker 3: But I'm not trying to find the fucking standard.

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Speaker 5: Sol I don't pay dudes to walk away.

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Speaker 3: If I was a woman, fuck you nigga, right because

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Speaker 3: if men walked away, he wouldn't have said the fuck

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Speaker 4: I agree. I'm just saying it.

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Speaker 2: It would take people raising and know it's gonna raise

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Speaker 2: a real stink this because the standards are low, you know,

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Speaker 2: so as a as a as a dude and a

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Speaker 4: People will be.

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Speaker 2: Like, well, least he didn't say he raper he said

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Speaker 2: he He just said he fuck her, Okay, So I

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Speaker 2: mean that's trending up for us.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so your boss fucking you, the pression in power

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Speaker 3: fucking you that you alright with that?

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Speaker 4: Right? And that's the question.

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Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons I really fuck with

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Speaker 4: But I think this is the worst thing I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Post industrial Pittsburgh has remade itself as a tech hub.

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Speaker 4: Right, Oh man, that's terrible.

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Speaker 3: Right like like, and then the thing that frustrates me,

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Speaker 4: If people cared, right, but they won't care.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe some people gotta go to jail and they

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Speaker 3: Where them people going, you know, because Pittsburgh is basically

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Speaker 2: Publicly, the Health Department said, our data shows that we

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Speaker 3: Which is probably where they went to the surrounding But see, folks,

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Speaker 5: That's still a problem. What are we talking about here?

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Speaker 4: All right? That's sad. That's fucked up. People gonna die rock. Uh,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a show us, a showrunner on Walking Dad.

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Speaker 2: His abusive Walking Dad email spark mixed reaction around Hollywood.

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Speaker 4: No mom now.

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Speaker 5: Complained about any thing? Is you nigga? Ought to just

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Speaker 2: Where where they're Supposedive emails at the show runner Frank

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Speaker 4: This is their first time dealing with a massive, massive hit.

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Speaker 2: Undoubtedly they weren't over their heads and mistakes were made,

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Speaker 4: His vision as a director, says the studio head.

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Speaker 2: When I read you those emails, I wish half the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if he's working already. He's probably working

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Speaker 5: On another project. Yeah, I mean not telling funny.

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Speaker 5: As a boss.

445
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Speaker 3: You affect the atmosphere, You affected the actors like you

446
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 3: affect a lot of shit just being a dick.

447
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah, I don't know. Some people do feel

448
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 2: like the show fell off though, So maybe y'all, you know,

449
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,679
Speaker 2: maybe he was the reason. Maybe the show would be

450
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 2: dope if they just let this dude be an asshole.

451
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Speaker 5: You know what.

452
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: I'm fine with it, you know, I'm sorry. Sometimes dicks don't.

453
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Speaker 5: Need to wind.

454
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Speaker 3: I agree, because if let's someone you wouldn't have everybody

455
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Speaker 3: just accepting their dicklely behavior and going, well, he's.

456
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Speaker 5: Just a man and working the dick and showing his ball,

457
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Speaker 5: so we got to respect him.

458
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Speaker 3: Oh penis, penis, penis, Yes, Penis will bow down because

459
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:57,880
Speaker 3: you know, the penis walks.

460
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Speaker 5: In the room and tell you you got to do

461
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Speaker 5: this and do that. You run. But if a jinna,

462
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 5: oh no, shut those ripped women. Fuck you, dude, fuck.

463
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Speaker 4: You penis Phoenis Phoenix, Yes, because that's.

464
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 5: All that matters is the penis.

465
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Speaker 3: A white penis, right, a white peen, not any penis

466
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Speaker 3: or white penis.

467
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Speaker 5: Because anybody else we would.

468
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Speaker 3: Have had think pieces, they'd have been on the front

469
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Speaker 3: page of every comic book magazine.

470
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Speaker 5: Y'all have been talking shit about them.

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Speaker 4: Uh well.

472
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Speaker 2: Senator Kamala Harris is taking on the criminal criminal justice

473
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Speaker 2: reform head on. The freshman senator is attaching ourselves to

474
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Speaker 2: bills that work to reform the nation's complicated criminal justice system.

475
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Speaker 2: Senator Kamala Harris is leading the charge to bring major

476
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Speaker 2: reform to the country's multi billion dollar prison system. The

477
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Speaker 2: first term California Democrat introduced a bipartisan bill Thursday alongside

478
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Speaker 2: Republican Senator Ran Paul that would reform House.

479
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Speaker 4: States enforced bell.

480
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Speaker 2: The pre Trial Integrity and Safety Act of twenty seventeen

481
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Speaker 2: would incentify incentivized states to rework their bail system under

482
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Speaker 2: using a ten million dollars grant over three years. Our

483
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Speaker 2: justice system was designed with a promise to treat all

484
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Speaker 2: people equally, Harris said, and the press lease yet more

485
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Speaker 2: than four hundred and fifty thousand Americans sit in jail

486
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Speaker 2: today awaiting trial, and many of them cannot afford bail money.

487
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Speaker 2: In our country, whether you stay in jail or not,

488
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Speaker 2: it's wholly determined about whether you're healthy or not. And

489
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Speaker 2: and that's wrong, right Both Harrison Paul, citing the story

490
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Speaker 2: of Khalif Browder co op Co wrote and op ed

491
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Speaker 2: in The New York.

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Speaker 4: Times about the issue Thursday.

493
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Speaker 2: Browder's story of being held in jail one in three

494
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Speaker 2: years because it couldn't afford three thousand dollars bail has

495
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Speaker 2: become a key story in reform efforts surrounding the criminal

496
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Speaker 2: justice reform.

497
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Speaker 4: Browder later hung himself.

498
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Speaker 2: Excessive bill disproportionately harms people from low income communities and

499
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Speaker 2: communities of color. The Supreme Court ruled in Bearding versus

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Speaker 2: Georgia in nineteen eighty three that the Constitution prohibits punishing

501
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Speaker 2: a person for his but that's exactly what this does.

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Speaker 2: Not out of tend defenders who are detained cannot afford

503
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Speaker 2: the post bill which exceed which can exceed twenty thousand dollars,

504
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Speaker 2: even for minor crimes like stealing one hundred and five

505
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Speaker 2: dollars in clothing they row. This is not the only

506
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Speaker 2: such bill that has is tackling. She co introduced a

507
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Speaker 2: new bill last week, the Dignity for Incarcerated Women Act,

508
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Speaker 2: that reforms the way women in prison are treated. She's

509
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Speaker 2: working with Democratic Senators Corey Booker and Elizabeth Warren and

510
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Speaker 2: Dick Durwin. That's interesting, and I mean obviously that I

511
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Speaker 2: think that that is good. I don't think we're gonna

512
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Speaker 2: get prison abolishment right away or prison.

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Speaker 4: You know, whatever that people want.

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Speaker 2: I do think those are lauterable goals to not have

515
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Speaker 2: a prison, not have police, things of that nature. But

516
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Speaker 2: at the same time, working within the framework or where

517
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Speaker 2: we have, I do feel like there's room for improvement

518
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Speaker 2: and people need to be improving it. Unfortunately, under this

519
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,640
Speaker 2: admin it just feels so hopeless because I know we're

520
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Speaker 2: not gonna deprivatize any level of prison and there won't

521
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Speaker 2: be I mean, the prison lobby is so huge and

522
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Speaker 2: in the pocket is so many politicians. I know that

523
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Speaker 2: nothing will actually be done, but I don't know something

524
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Speaker 2: like I think sometimes we talk about these high level

525
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Speaker 2: concepts and and and things that are really aggressive and

526
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Speaker 2: are really progressive, but they won't. But there's also really

527
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Speaker 2: not feasible at the moment, but something that could help

528
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Speaker 2: people who are in jail for small bail amounts that

529
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Speaker 2: really shouldn't be in jail.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: That can affect a lot of real people's lives.

532
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Speaker 2: And I hope that that we are able to support

533
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Speaker 2: and pass that type of thing.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it feels like it.

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Speaker 2: Should be a unifying cause. But I just don't trust

536
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Speaker 2: Republicans because yeah, these politicians that have like money from

537
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Speaker 2: these lobbyists in that pocket is I just don't trust

538
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Speaker 2: to support the bill. But I think she's done something

539
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 2: amazing here already, which is to get bipartisan support, which

540
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: is something that pretty much went the way of the

541
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Speaker 2: DODO about.

542
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Speaker 4: Eight years ago.

543
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Speaker 2: So to see her get bipartisan support on something, I

544
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Speaker 2: don't know. I hope maybe she can get that they

545
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Speaker 2: can get this passed anyway. Oh yeah, And also she

546
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Speaker 2: might be gearing up to be for president to run

547
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Speaker 2: at twenty twenty, and this could be the beginning steps

548
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that, because you know, there's some people

549
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Speaker 2: on the left that hit her really hard about some

550
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Speaker 2: of her stances on like she's anti back page and prostitution,

551
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Speaker 2: because she feels like it's a place for trafficking sex

552
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Speaker 2: and slave trafficking and shit. And there's a lot of

553
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Speaker 2: people that are very like pro sex work that are

554
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Speaker 2: like no criminalizing.

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Speaker 4: Back Page or getting back Page deleted. It's just gonna

556
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Speaker 4: harm people and make it worse. There's also.

557
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Speaker 2: There was another thing she had, Well, she's in California

558
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Speaker 2: and they have a they basically have prison or inmates

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Speaker 2: that do work, like literal work, like they put them

560
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Speaker 2: out and it's like on some good behavior type work

561
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Speaker 2: really shit, where like you do enough for this work,

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Speaker 2: you get some time off of your sentence, And her

563
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Speaker 2: office was taking advantage of some of that work. She

564
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Speaker 2: claimed to not have known about it. So those are

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Speaker 2: two issues I've seen brought up about her that I

566
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Speaker 2: don't think they're necessaritarily national issues, and I don't know

567
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Speaker 2: that they track with the majority of the country as

568
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Speaker 2: far as like, well, some other politician will come along

569
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Speaker 2: and be like, well, I am pro black Page and

570
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Speaker 2: I'm pro anti that program.

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Speaker 3: You know.

572
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that'll track with most people or not.

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Speaker 2: But I just think that she probably is.

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Speaker 4: Gearing up for a twenty twenty run and we'll see

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Speaker 4: who else, because you know, she the one thing she has,

576
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 4: she's kind of young enough and fresh enough to not

577
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Speaker 4: have the litany of shit for people to call her

578
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Speaker 4: out on.

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Speaker 2: Like I've only seen a few issues with her, whereas

580
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Speaker 2: any other politician, if you're gonna be as critical about

581
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Speaker 2: them as you are about her, you're gonna have way

582
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Speaker 2: more issues just because they've been around longer. And then

583
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Speaker 2: she also kind of rolls the prominence during this Senate

584
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Speaker 2: here and shit like she was the woman that was

585
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Speaker 2: the one person in the room that was aggressively challenging

586
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Speaker 2: these races and lyon ass white men even as other

587
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Speaker 2: senators tried to cal her down. So she will probably

588
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Speaker 2: be a bit lionized and seen as a hero to

589
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Speaker 2: certain people in this country. I think it would be

590
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Speaker 2: smart to at least put a foot in the water,

591
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Speaker 2: just because put a toe in the water, because, as

592
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Speaker 2: I said, the Democratic Party is really running about black women.

593
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Speaker 2: So until until people take that into account, I feel

594
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Speaker 2: like they're gonna always have a losing strategy. But uh,

595
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Speaker 2: if black women don't support the candidate, is not gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: So in this case, black women is uh, you know, definitely.

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Speaker 4: Uh supporting.

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Speaker 2: Uh, I mean definitely a person that can be on

599
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Speaker 2: the ticket, and I think a lot a lot of

600
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Speaker 2: black women will support her.

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Speaker 4: True, all right, I mean I thought you wanted to

602
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Speaker 4: say something.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I said, I do like to

604
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Speaker 3: bipolitics and I know Rampobling my favorite person. This should mean,

605
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 3: but good thing for the bipartisan And I'm glad you're

606
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: looking in the right direction. And when you're talking about

607
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Speaker 3: like the bail and things like that, too many people,

608
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Speaker 3: like you said, too many people make too much money, right,

609
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Speaker 3: you know, for for me to see a change in this,

610
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Speaker 3: because the thing is, it affects poor people, and poor

611
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,239
Speaker 3: people can be of any color, you know, but it

612
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: affects black people in larger. It affects black people the hardest,

613
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Speaker 3: but it affects white people more because the populace is

614
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Speaker 3: more poor White people didn't pull black people, but it

615
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 3: just affects pull black people harder than any.

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Speaker 5: Of the group.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, it'll be interesting, like I said, because I

619
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Speaker 2: feel like the way shit is lining up of all

620
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: the contenders, she seems that had the freshest name. But

621
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Speaker 2: I feel a lot like we could see in twenty

622
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Speaker 2: was it twenty seventeen. Now, so we could see in

623
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty, but basically twenty nineteen we could I actually

624
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Speaker 2: see what actually, you know, twenty eighteen, we could see

625
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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen when the Democratic nominee start, we could

626
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: literally see what the Republicans had in twenty sixteen. I

627
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't be shocked, like if we saw like ten twelve people,

628
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: because a lot of people gonna feel like they have

629
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Speaker 2: a shot since nobody's necessarily that.

630
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Speaker 4: Popular and nobody is that much of a leader you

631
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 4: don't like.

632
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Speaker 2: Even with Obama, he was the sitting president, so that's

633
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 2: why you didn't have a challenge in twenty twelve. But

634
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Speaker 2: after that you still had Hillary, who everybody thought, Okay,

635
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 2: she's a shoe in, and then you know, people had

636
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: their misgivings about her, which I think ultimately made Bernie

637
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: Sanders a thing. I don't think Bernie Sanders would have

638
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: been a thing in any other year.

639
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Speaker 4: Really.

640
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's gonna be interesting because I feel like

641
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: a lot of people think they can hit that crown,

642
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: like now's the time to strike while it's hot.

643
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Speaker 3: So right, in my personal opinion, you better do it

644
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: while Barack and Michelle out here training somebody else and

645
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 3: raising them up, because I think the second in my opinion,

646
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Speaker 3: the second day get a person to the point where

647
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: they'd be like, hey, y'all, look, this is the person. Like,

648
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 3: that's where everybody's gonna kind of get behind and push,

649
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 3: regardless of how these old white people feel. And I

650
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: think that's why they constantly attacked them and what they

651
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 3: do and shit like that, because they want to quote

652
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Speaker 3: unquote discredit then.

653
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Speaker 5: But I don't care or what you do.

654
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Speaker 3: Niggas gonna love them forever, so you might as well

655
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 3: get the fuck over that.

656
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

657
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Speaker 2: I think that bellshit though, is a smart move on

658
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: her behalf, like prison reform shit, it's a smart move

659
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,320
Speaker 2: just because it'll especially you can get by partisan support.

660
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: It'll look like you've got something done when a lot

661
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: of these motherfuckers that are complaining that are gonna run

662
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty aren't getting anything done, right, you know, unfortunately,

663
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: you know, because it's not like yeah, it's just they're

664
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Speaker 2: not getting anything done.

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Speaker 5: You know.

666
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Speaker 4: Maxine Waters isn't gonna run in twenty twenty. John Lewis

667
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 4: ain't gonna run in twenty twenty.

668
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 2: Like the people that are the lead voices in the

669
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 2: opposition right now, it's Kamala Harris, John Lewis, Maxine Waters,

670
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: it's these other politicians have kind of gone to the wayside,

671
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: so you know, like Bernie Sanders is talking about, you know,

672
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: still believing in Trump rooters and shit like you need

673
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: somebody aversario that can look back on to have a

674
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 2: track record, to be like, these are the things I

675
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: accomplished while these other motherfuckers running their mouth that being

676
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 2: and said, I don't feel like anybody's a shit with

677
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: I just feel like she might put her hat in

678
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: the ring, because I think everybody's gonna think they can

679
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 2: put their hat in the ring in twenty twenty. I

680
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if like fucking our Gore was back

681
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: like that. It's that much. So it's that much of

682
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 2: a rudderless party.

683
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: It's so wide and so many people feel like the

684
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: party in dispray and.

685
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 5: It's not organized.

686
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 3: And one thing I can say when we talked to

687
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: el Jo Williams, she bob a good thing. She was like,

688
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 3: everybody wants to run, but then who's gonna follow you?

689
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 5: Like, who's gonna push and be the people to support you?

690
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 5: If everybody wants to run.

691
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. We're gonna see, man, because I'm

692
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 2: gonna tell you this. If it's it's funny right, because

693
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: it was down to two candidates on the left and

694
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: the people that the person that one had the black vote.

695
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 2: If it's fucking twenty seven people or ten people or

696
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: fifteen people or eight people or whatever, the person that

697
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: gets the black voter is gonna win.

698
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 5: Correct.

699
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: If it's Kamala Harris, she will win. If they are

700
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 2: Bernie fucking you know, like I said, our go like,

701
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: if it's just that again, black people are gonna line

702
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: up behind her. You know, if it's Corey Booker, I

703
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 2: still expect black people to line up behind her.

704
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 4: Uh, well, you know what I have to see. I

705
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 4: don't actually know how I don't know how he goes nationally.

706
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 2: Like I know how the super progressive people feel about

707
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 2: Corey Booker.

708
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 4: I actually don't know how people feel about him nationally

709
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 4: me either.

710
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 3: All I know is I hear his name and it

711
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 3: is normally something bad behind it.

712
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know if people don't really fuck with him,

713
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: but he had his character assassinated after that Bernie shit

714
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 2: about the medicine stuff because he uh, you know that's

715
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 2: on inside Baseball long story. Shit, we will see, man,

716
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: we got two years to really wait to see that.

717
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: But anyway, I do think both of those proposals she

718
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 2: had are good, and I hope they passed because we

719
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: got to start somewhere. It can't just like it's got

720
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: to start somewhere. And this bell shit is ridiculous, and

721
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 2: a lot of activists are fighting about it, and and

722
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 2: by fighting about it, I mean they're making spread and awareness.

723
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: You had jay Z beling out the fathers, you have

724
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: Black Lives Matter, Philly beiling out.

725
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 4: The women for Mother's Day, like this shit.

726
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: Anything dealing with prison disproportionately affects black and brown people.

727
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons I don't really listen like

728
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: sometimes when people say shit like well this, you know,

729
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 2: the Bama administration ain't doing nothing for black people. I'm like,

730
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: that just means you don't follow politics and you don't care.

731
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: Cause anything about sentence reform, jail reform, bail reform, drug

732
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: law reform, all those things are directly affecting black people.

733
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: You might as well be literally walking into the jail

734
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: and getting the black people out yourself. That's honestly, that's

735
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: how much we are associated with prison in this country

736
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: and how much we are criminalized for just existing. So

737
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: these type of initiatives do affect black people directly, but

738
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: the politicians can't come out and just say I did

739
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 2: this for black people. So you end up in this

740
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: stalemate where a politician never gonna come out and be like,

741
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to bail these niggas out and I'm

742
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 2: writing partners for niggas to get them out, like I'm

743
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: commuting the most sentences ever for a president, because for

744
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: black people, you can't just come out and say that.

745
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: But I peak game. I know what the end result is.

746
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: HIV sufferers hav an almost zero chance of transmitting their

747
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 2: infection to others if they receive treatment, according to the

748
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: larger study of its kind.

749
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 5: Wonderful.

750
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 2: I remember when HIV in our lifetime was a death sentence.

751
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: A complete easy e I'm not trying me funny, like

752
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 3: out of everybody, he was like, well for me, one

753
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: of the first famous people that got a's. It was

754
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 3: literally he got a's on Friday. He was dead by Sunday.

755
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 4: You was like, well, god, damn, I mean, it wasn't

756
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 4: that quick. But the time Frank was just so quickly.

757
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: Yes, and particularly in the LGBTQ community, you know people

758
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 3: it was spreading, especially particularly like the seventies eighties, people

759
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: spreading done little Boy for Michael Jackson, that little Boy,

760
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 3: you know, because back then we didn't have the technology

761
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 3: we have now. People used to get blood transfusion, their wegetage.

762
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: People used to have operations of Ryan White, thank you

763
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 3: operations that we get age.

764
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 5: It's one of those things where people just were scared

765
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 5: to death.

766
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pedro from the real world was the first person

767
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 2: a lot of people back in the real world really

768
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 2: meant something something, but he was the first person.

769
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 4: That actually.

770
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: We heard that that like you went through it, like

771
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: you met him. You saw fucking uh pup put a

772
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 2: scabbin as peanut butter or some shit, some weird shit.

773
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 2: But you saw that ship and you went through it

774
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: and then bam, this dude dies. So we've seen it

775
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 2: change in our lifetime.

776
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 3: You know, we're talking about Arthur Ash but I know

777
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 3: for me, he's outside of my realm. You don't be

778
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: as far as somebody I kept up with in South Cool.

779
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, that's I think that's a lot of

780
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: people's experience. So yeah, this news cool, good news, thank you,

781
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 2: Like I'm glad there's a lead author of this research.

782
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: HIV.

783
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: HIV transmission is almost zero monk sufferers receiving treatment, regardless

784
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 2: of whether they are straight or gay. No new cases

785
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 2: of the virus from rosamund gay men with infected partners

786
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 2: receiving therapy despite them having regular sex without condoms over

787
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: four years. The largest study of his confound. Boy, you

788
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: gotta be braid to do that.

789
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 4: That is because I.

790
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 2: Mean, once they say, look we we this treatment, we

791
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: really think we got down to zero.

792
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, but just in case, you know what

793
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 4: I mean. But but I understand.

794
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: Uh, no new cases of the virus a Rosa Mond

795
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: gay man with affective partners. Lead author, present Professor Andrew

796
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 2: Groulich from the University of New South Wales said there

797
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 2: was not a single linked HIV infection in the those couples.

798
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 4: Nobody became infected from their partner.

799
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't don't.

800
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: They got a study out that says that it's a

801
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 3: low rate of mothers passing it to their children.

802
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 5: Now, isn't that rate like really really low?

803
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: I don't have that study on me to be honest, Karen,

804
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope so, I don't know. The researchers

805
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: believe this highlights the importance of prevention as a former treatment.

806
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 2: Halting transmission among gay men is important as the risk

807
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,280
Speaker 2: of HIV infection is approximately ten times higher with aintal

808
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: sex than.

809
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 4: Vaginal wow, according to Professor Grolich.

810
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 2: But we don't need but Team Vogue wrong for putting

811
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 2: out an anal sex guy right, risk of transition ten

812
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: times higher. But hey, you know we don't want these

813
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,279
Speaker 2: kids learning how to have anal sex well, I do,

814
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 2: especially safely.

815
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 5: Come on some of the adulces picking up that Team.

816
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 2: Vogue, right, I hope, yeah, I hope some grown ups

817
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 2: read it. Everybody can't listening to what's the team? Get

818
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: get to school.

819
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: I'm trying to tell you get informed.

820
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: This is due to sales and the ain't as being

821
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: more susceptible to HIV those in the vagina, as well

822
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: as the fluid and seemen in the anis line and

823
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: carrying more HIV than vaginal secretions. Researchers from the University

824
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 2: of South Wales analyzed the sex lives of HIV transmission

825
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: rates of more than three hundred and fifty gay couples

826
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: where one of the individuals is affected with the virus.

827
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 2: The couples were from Brazil, Taland and Australia. Each couple

828
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 2: reported their sexual activity over four years. The HIV negative

829
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: partners were regularly tested to diagnose any new infections. Results

830
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: revealed that there were no new cases of HIV during

831
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: the studies duration, despite the participations participants having sex about

832
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: seventeen thousand times between them without condoms. But Pressor Grilich

833
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: said there was not a single link HIV infection in

834
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: these couples. Nobody became infected from their partner. Three new

835
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 2: cases of HIV did arise during the trials duration. However,

836
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: analysis revealed those effecttions came from people not involved in

837
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 2: the study.

838
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 4: So somebody was cheating right.

839
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 2: The finders were presented at the ninth Internation International AIDS

840
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 2: Conference on HIV Science and Paris. This research demonstration demonstrates

841
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: the important to prevention as a former treatment. According to

842
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: Professor Grolic, such findings are particularly important among gay men

843
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: at as a risk of HIV transmission is higher with

844
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: antal sex. Professor Girlich said, we know transmission risk by

845
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: antal sex approximately ten times higher than vaginal sex.

846
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, good some good news.

847
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 2: Right, yay, right, follow up all this terrible news or

848
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: some good news.

849
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 4: Let's see what else saying. Oh this is old, but

850
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 4: I'll cover it anyway.

851
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 2: Madonna call Whitney Houston mediocre and the letter up for auction.

852
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 2: Why all these letters coming from I saw someone was

853
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,479
Speaker 2: talking about a letter from Tupac from jail talking about

854
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: he fucking with Madonna.

855
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: She's white, and everybody was like, you know, duh oh boy.

856
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: But then uh, but then this letter came out and

857
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 2: everybody was like the fuck ma Donna was on See,

858
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 2: that's why toof I dropped you.

859
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, apparently first there was.

860
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,280
Speaker 2: A letter from two Box Cure that was up for auction,

861
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: where the rapper explained to Madonna, white broke up with her,

862
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: and that is another letter heading to auction said by

863
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,759
Speaker 2: auction is that have been written by Madonna with the first

864
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: one of the greatest singers of our time is mediocre.

865
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: In a letter to Jay, whom auctioners say was John Enos,

866
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: Madonna complained that Whitney Houston actors Sharon Stone with mediocre

867
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: and shared how she was feeling so uncomfortable in my

868
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 2: own skin right now, I have made so many people

869
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 2: angry that I'm being punished and basically made to be

870
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 2: quiet and sit in the corner while other less interesting,

871
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 2: excited people are reaping.

872
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: The benefits of the roads I paid.

873
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 2: She wrote, It's so unequivocally frustrated to read that Whitney

874
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: Houston has a music career I wish I had, as

875
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: Sarah Sean has the film career I'll never have, not

876
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 2: because I want these women.

877
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 4: I want to be these women because I'd rather die.

878
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 2: But they're so horribly mediocre, and they're always being held

879
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 2: up as Paragond's a virtue and some sort of measuring

880
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: stick to humiliate me.

881
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 5: I sound like an internal problem, dog.

882
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 4: Mm and the letter Medonnacatinuez to complain about people lacking

883
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 4: originality and indicated that she considered herself to be the

884
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 4: original talent. Everything I do is so original and unique.

885
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 2: I put so much of myself into it, like my

886
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: book and record, and it's only brought me hard aching pain.

887
00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 2: I don't think I can play the game to be excepted.

888
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: I'm too intelligent. I have too much pride.

889
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 4: It's a pretty big humble brag right here.

890
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 5: Dog right, and not so funny. She can't sing, if

891
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 5: you ask my opinion, she never could sing.

892
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 4: She can't sing like Whitney that's catchy and shit like that.

893
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: And yeah, you paved the way I mean, I mean,

894
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: and the thing is, you paid the way for you know,

895
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: the future quote unquote, but somebody had to pay the

896
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,960
Speaker 3: role for you dollar, you know, you know, like everybody's

897
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: paving the role for somebody else to go down that

898
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 3: nothing spit tac you and all this sounds like it's

899
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 3: some internal ship that you're dealing with.

900
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 5: Sharon's Donna whinning Houston. Ain't got nothing to do with

901
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 5: your internal struggles, baby.

902
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 4: Right, Why are you blaming Whitney the greatest?

903
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 5: Come on this?

904
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 4: Exactly what white nonsense is this?

905
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: Yes, Darlene Lutch, Madonna's arkansultant, was the owner of the letter,

906
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 2: which is being auctioned off with the starting bit of

907
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 2: a thousand dollars.

908
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 4: Damn. She definitely she ain't gonna be working that long.

909
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 4: M No, So yeah she must be out her mind.

910
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, because my thing is, I can't speak for nobody else,

911
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: but when the last time you've been popping to that, Madonna,

912
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 3: this been your.

913
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: Jam I'm gonna be honest, I'm not trying to shave Madonna.

914
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,919
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna try. I know she is an icon.

915
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: She put the work, and I know when people say

916
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 2: fucked up ship, the first the first recourse is to

917
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: be like, dang shit, they was never shit. Madonna was

918
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: a definitely a person that ran the game for a

919
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 2: period of time. She definitely paved the way for a

920
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: lot of Peopleary. Yeah, she definitely had uh some some

921
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 2: really good uh I'd say feminist even like style, like

922
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: her way of embracing sexuality and her rebellion against men

923
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: trying to tell her what to do.

924
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 4: You know that Propa Don't Preach. Think she was also

925
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 4: kind of.

926
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: Ahead of the game a bit racially, not saying like

927
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: she was woke or nothing, but you know, I remember

928
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: her being on some like having a black dude in

929
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: the like a Virgin video I think it was, or

930
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: the Papa Don't Preach video or something like. I remember,

931
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: you know, her and Dennis Rodman being like this really

932
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: alternative couple.

933
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 4: For a while and shit Like, I'm not trying to.

934
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 2: Take away from anything she's done, but to say all that,

935
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 2: I still have to say, you must have lost your

936
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: motherfucking mind. Call it Whitney medioca. Compared to you, this

937
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: sound like straight up jealousy. It sounds like Whitney was

938
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: killing the game whenever. I don't know what year this

939
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 2: letter came out, but I know Whitney did the Bodyguard.

940
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 2: Like Whitney, if you like, she probably was on some

941
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: like I was. I'm a musician and an actress, and

942
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: now Whitney get to act. It's like, Nigga, sorry, but

943
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 2: her shit better than yours. You was never in nothing like.

944
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: You weren't in anything that was that iconic to people

945
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,879
Speaker 2: that you was gonna get like.

946
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: That.

947
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,439
Speaker 4: That's gonna live with people forever. It doesn't.

948
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: It's not even Shade, but Bodyguard gonna live with people

949
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 2: forever because of that song.

950
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 4: Cause and it's mostly because of that song, you know.

951
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:49,720
Speaker 4: So I don't know what to tell.

952
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:49,959
Speaker 5: You, though.

953
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 4: It's sorry, you know.

954
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: I hate that they put you out there on blast

955
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 2: like that because that's a private letter and honestly we

956
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: shouldn't have to know that about you.

957
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 4: That's fuck up that your friend told on you.

958
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like nigga, you not fucking

959
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 2: with Whitney like it is what it is just there's

960
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: no way you could have known she was gonna die

961
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: and put her to the next level of icon status,

962
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 2: which is like, how dare you talk about this? You know,

963
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: this goddess queen that's dead type thing. But even if

964
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 2: she was alive, I still be saying the same shit.

965
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: You was never fucking with Whitney Dog, So I don't

966
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 2: know be mad, right?

967
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 4: Oh man? So anyway, let's see what else you got here.

968
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 5: Uh.

969
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: A mom was hit with death threats after tweeting her

970
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: sons two hundred and thirty one thousand dollars medical bill

971
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 2: to show how the current healthcare system made life saving

972
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: surgery affordable.

973
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: Now, why the fuck would you have to threaten to

974
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 4: kill her? All she did was say, listen this the hell,

975
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 4: cassys we have right now? This Obamacare saved my family

976
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 4: and saved us a lot of money. Why would you

977
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 4: want her to die for that?

978
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 5: Those people ain't shit.

979
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: The mother of a seriously three year old boy has

980
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: described the agony of receiving insults and death threats after

981
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: she tweeted there two hundred and thirty one dollars one

982
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,320
Speaker 2: hundred and fifteen, I mean two hundred and thirty one thousand,

983
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,280
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen dollars medical bill. Ali's Chandra thirty

984
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: three or maybe it's Chandra, shared the photo on Twitter

985
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,799
Speaker 2: last month to show how the Affordable Care Acts band

986
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: on Benefits CAPS has made it possible for her son

987
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 2: to receive life saving care. Even was born with congenital

988
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: heart defect known as Heterotaxi syndrome. It means that he

989
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:46,359
Speaker 2: has already undergone multiple open heart operations.

990
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 4: And will likely need more to keep him alive.

991
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 5: Wow.

992
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: Doctors have called his heart one of the most complex

993
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 2: in the world. Urgent President Trump not to scrap the

994
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 2: current system with the new bill, New Jersey based Chandra

995
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,799
Speaker 2: posted a photo of her son's bill. Her tweet went

996
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: and was even retweeted by Chelsea Clinton within minutes. The

997
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 2: overwhelming positive reactions turned.

998
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 5: Ugly, probably because Chelsea Clinton tweeted it.

999
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes, and you've experienced this, if certain people

1000
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 3: put it out because of their followers, people just at

1001
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 3: you and attack you.

1002
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 5: You're like, well, what the fuck where do you come from? Yeah.

1003
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: Part of the reason that I don't talk shit about

1004
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 2: the Ray and them is because every time they retweet me,

1005
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 2: somebody threatened to kill me and cause me a nigger.

1006
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if he retweets me saying this peanut

1007
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,799
Speaker 4: butter is good or if he said sometimes right.

1008
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: It's a whole nother level of fucked up shit out

1009
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: there that a lot of people aren't aware of because

1010
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: they just you know, they're very fortunate and they don't care,

1011
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 2: so they won't go look up this shit.

1012
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 4: But you just look at that mass mentions and you'll

1013
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,879
Speaker 4: be like, oh shit, they on fire, on fire, right,

1014
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 4: and I catch the residual. Chelsea Clinton never retweeted me,

1015
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 4: but I'm sure if Chelsea Clean retweeted me, I get

1016
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 4: a cold bunch of fucking dye motherfucking type shit too.

1017
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 5: Because you have to think, so many people hated her,

1018
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 5: mama sold many people.

1019
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: Here her dadd and let's just kick this real, so

1020
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 3: anytime she puts something out there, it becomes a problem.

1021
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: But even with all that, why are you threatened to

1022
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 4: kill this person?

1023
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 5: Right?

1024
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 4: Even if she retweeted it.

1025
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,799
Speaker 2: What's the point of She was called a dumb bitch

1026
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: and a freeloader. Some said her child wasn't worth keeping alive,

1027
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: Others attacked her having faulty genetics, and someone offered up

1028
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 2: a twenty two bullet twenty two caliber bullet. She's not

1029
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 2: sure if he meant it for her or the child.

1030
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 2: Speaking to the Daily mailow Line, Chandra said that many

1031
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: sent her violent Islamophobic threats as they assumed she was

1032
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 2: Muslim because her nickname Ali, her surname from her Canadian husband,

1033
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: who was of Indian descent.

1034
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody packed up because I thought she was a

1035
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: Muslim descent too.

1036
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:50,520
Speaker 2: A very angry man tried to find out where I

1037
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 2: lived to see if I was working or bombing people

1038
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 2: shut Chander, registered nurse who lives in Middlesex with her

1039
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: husband and two children, explaining, one guy said, this is

1040
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 2: the Internet. Was she not expecting death threats? That seems

1041
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 2: like a Twitter problem. I don't know why they are

1042
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 2: cool with that on their social media platform.

1043
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 4: How has this.

1044
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 2: Become accepted part of this discourse. One user seeing to

1045
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: think Ethan was Mexican, which Chandra assumes is because his

1046
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 2: skin tone.

1047
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 4: They wrote, he falls so hard to cross the border.

1048
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: It was all for nothing because Americans don't want to

1049
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: pay some border across the Mexican's mad bill. They came

1050
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 2: at me swinging, picking fights. I never asked for a

1051
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:32,200
Speaker 2: Chander rote in an essay for Vox, strangers were telling

1052
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: me it would have been cheaper to make a new kid,

1053
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 2: as if anyone in the history of the world, what

1054
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 2: could ever replace this bright light of mind? Ethan was

1055
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 2: born with nine heart defects and two left lawns. His

1056
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 2: heart liver and God blot her down the middle of

1057
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 2: his body, and his stomach is on the right side

1058
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 2: of his body instead of left.

1059
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 5: Wow.

1060
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 4: He has undergone four heart surgeons and will continue more

1061
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:52,360
Speaker 4: going forward.

1062
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:54,280
Speaker 5: Wow.

1063
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 2: They've also made regular visits to the cardiologists, emunologists, pediatrician,

1064
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: and electrophysicists for Paymaker.

1065
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 4: He often has to visit er for sepsist work ups

1066
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 4: and if his temperature rises.

1067
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: Above one hundred degrees one hundred point four degrees fair right?

1068
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 3: Uh.

1069
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,879
Speaker 2: The bill specifically covered ten hours in the operation room,

1070
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,479
Speaker 2: one week in the cardiac Intensive carry cardiac intensive carry unit,

1071
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 2: and one week in cardiac war to be monitored. Yeah,

1072
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 2: and her saying this led to people wanting her to

1073
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: die and her kid to die. All right, right, Uh,

1074
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: it's wrong with people.

1075
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 3: Man, I don't know, say some of the same people

1076
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 3: who probably gonna die, A lot of them gonna die

1077
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 3: if this healthcare get obdurned. But you know when it's them,

1078
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, they gonna want sympathy. They're gonna

1079
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 3: be protesting and marching.

1080
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 4: So I'm wrong with people, man.

1081
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 3: People have no empathy sympathy, and a lot of people don't

1082
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:53,319
Speaker 3: have heart.

1083
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 5: They don't have heart. They just don't care anything about humanity.

1084
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 4: Fucking with black people time.

1085
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 5: We're just fucking with those black people.

1086
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 2: We're just fucking with those blacks. We're just fucking with

1087
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 2: fucking with black people. That's right, guys, It's time to

1088
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 2: play the game, and we all hate to play.

1089
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: It's fucking with black people game.

1090
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 2: It goes all around the globe and finds different articles

1091
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 2: that make us feel fucked with the black people. We

1092
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: all sign points sport from Zio two hundred and twenty

1093
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: five Today's Contestants.

1094
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: Everybody, this feels.

1095
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 2: Like being on the Hollywood ship for for a while now,

1096
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 2: the last few weeks.

1097
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 4: But uh, we're back with another one.

1098
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 2: Detroit director Catherine Bigelow addresses concerns over a white woman

1099
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:45,720
Speaker 2: telling a black story. Now I've seen the trailer for Detroit,

1100
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna be honest, I want to see it.

1101
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 4: Y'all know who I am. Y'all know who I am.

1102
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 4: Y'all knew what this was.

1103
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 5: Oh, y'all, I knew you was gonna see it.

1104
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 2: I want to see it. It's like it's about some

1105
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: some black shit. Is based on a true story. Some

1106
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 2: niggas got fucked up dealing with some h some police

1107
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 2: or something.

1108
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 4: I don't even know the backstory to it, Okay, I

1109
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 4: just know I need to see it.

1110
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: Well, apparently it's directed by Katherine Bigelow, who did like

1111
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 2: The hurt Locker and Zero Dark thirty.

1112
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 4: Which are two critically at Clayt Movies.

1113
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: But she is a woman, Okay, she's one of the whites,

1114
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: and so people are you know, there's a bit of

1115
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 2: trepidation around the idea of her telling his story.

1116
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: Let's see, Uh, the.

1117
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: Eric Dyson I guess it's the Michael Eric Dyson is

1118
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: uh the person who covered this for l magazine and

1119
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: he wrote he wrote about him people locally having misgivings

1120
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 2: about her doing the story. But do the white girl

1121
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: really know what these crackers did? So wising old man

1122
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: asked me it was more threatening question. I just told

1123
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,080
Speaker 2: him that Bigelow is direct movie about the Algers Motel

1124
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: incident in which white cops killed three black men, Carl Cooper,

1125
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 2: Vey Polar and Fred Temple, and basically beat another eight

1126
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: as well as two white women.

1127
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:11,760
Speaker 4: Spoiler alert, what's she knows about niggas? Anyway?

1128
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 2: Well, later in the article they have a quote from

1129
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 2: Catherine Bigelow herself when screenplay writer, producer sometimes collaborator Mark

1130
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: Bole presented the idea of the incident at the Algiers Motel.

1131
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: It was right on the hill sadly of the death

1132
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,400
Speaker 2: of Michael Brown and Ferguson Missouri. Biggel how tells me

1133
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 2: on the break from the editing room at Sony Pictures

1134
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 2: Studios in Culver City. It crystallized the need to add,

1135
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: from my vantage point, more volume to that conversation because

1136
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 2: it's controversial that a conversation, I'm sorry, not conversation, because

1137
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 2: it's a conversation that I need believes to be had.

1138
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: Am I the ideal person to direct this movie? No,

1139
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 2: Having lived with a certain amount of privilege, how can

1140
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 2: I truly truly get into the DNA as somebody who's

1141
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: experienced social injustice. But she decided to not let the

1142
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 2: best be the enemy of the good.

1143
00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,960
Speaker 4: Is this the story that needs to be told?

1144
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 5: Oh?

1145
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,759
Speaker 2: Yes, And so I felt like, well, let's just add

1146
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 2: more noise to the conversation and.

1147
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 4: Hopefully there will be many more movies.

1148
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 2: As for Bigelow herself, she limits to under representation of

1149
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: people of color as well as women in the directorial ranks,

1150
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 2: but she believes we got to keep confronting exploring racial

1151
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: things by any means necessary. You may say her initial

1152
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: impression of the Algeris Motel tragedy was that's fifty years ago.

1153
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 2: Surely something has changed, But she almost immediately recognized she

1154
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: was wrong.

1155
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 4: Oh no, it hasn't.

1156
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 2: I felt like I felt that from a socio political standpoint,

1157
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 2: we just we're just trapped unless there's a political will

1158
00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 2: to change.

1159
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 4: This paradigm of subjugation.

1160
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 2: She pauses to sit back on her chair, and I

1161
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 2: feel pain and that and then the sincere confession as

1162
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: much for herself as her fellow.

1163
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 4: Citizens, and shame. I don't know, man, I mean, that's

1164
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 4: a pretty good answer, I guess, zeal To and you can.

1165
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 3: From an answer. I'm not fuck with her answer. I

1166
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: do understand people questioning it because you know, niggas is

1167
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 3: tied of white people. Taking air shit in white Washington

1168
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 3: and taking their shit and not telling the truth and

1169
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,440
Speaker 3: taking their shit and adjusted it a certain way.

1170
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 5: To appease white people. So I can understand why people mad.

1171
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 5: So I give you twenty.

1172
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: Five twenty five? Yeah, I think I'll give it zero.

1173
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: I need to see the movie. To be honest. I

1174
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: don't have a problem with white people with the idea.

1175
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 2: I guess the concept. I think a white person can

1176
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,959
Speaker 2: do a good story on something and it be about race.

1177
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: It's possible, correct, I just think it's very unlikely, right,

1178
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: That's why.

1179
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,280
Speaker 3: People don't even want to give you a chance. But

1180
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 3: oh no, no, no, no, so many people fucked up.

1181
00:57:39,560 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: We assume that you're gonna fuck up to Yeah.

1182
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 2: I mean you could interview the right people, you could have,

1183
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 2: have the right consultants on As always, I would love

1184
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: to see what the people who live through will have

1185
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: to say, because we've seen this shit happen with a

1186
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 2: lot of different levels of privilege and shit. I mean,

1187
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: look at John Ridley and his Gorilla movie, I mean series,

1188
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,439
Speaker 2: and how he tanked that shit.

1189
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:10,440
Speaker 4: He black, he still didn't get it, you know. So

1190
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:12,800
Speaker 4: I don't know. I just want to see it I'll

1191
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 4: give her a chance.

1192
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 2: If it's whack, I'm gonna be call it whack though,

1193
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 2: you know, like it's still Like my first thought when

1194
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: I saw that trailer was like, holy shit, who did this?

1195
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: And then it was Captain Bigelow and I was like, ooh,

1196
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,439
Speaker 2: I don't what does she know about race like that?

1197
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,439
Speaker 2: But I also know very little about this incident, So

1198
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:35,360
Speaker 2: maybe I'll be more lenient than somebody who's lived through it.

1199
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 4: I don't know. I love to see what people who

1200
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 4: lived through it or understood during that time. I love

1201
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 4: to see what they think.

1202
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 2: But you know, we're gonna get after the movies out

1203
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: like people that look like play with race at your

1204
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 2: own risk, I shouldn't say play tell these stories at

1205
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: your own risk? Correct if you're white, because this is

1206
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 2: something you don't have to dabble in. But if you

1207
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 2: choose to and you want to do it honor and

1208
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: dimity and all that shit, you gotta live up to

1209
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: the scrutiny.

1210
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 3: And the expectation that people of color or any brown

1211
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 3: or marginalized group when you do, when you step into

1212
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 3: their realm and you're not of their realm, you're gonna

1213
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 3: have to deal with the criticism be a good battle

1214
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 3: in different it will come your life.

1215
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 4: At any rate.

1216
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 2: It piqued my interest. I need to know more about

1217
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: shit like this. I never heard of this. I don't

1218
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: know if other people know about this, and I just

1219
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: the last one.

1220
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 4: I had never heard of this incident.

1221
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 2: I you know, in addition to like reading about it

1222
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 2: on wiki or some shit I'm sure, or maybe does

1223
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 2: a documentary, I also will watch this movie.

1224
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 5: You know.

1225
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: I recently watched that documentary on the move bombing in Philadelphia.

1226
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 4: I had never heard of that shit. I had never

1227
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 4: heard of it.

1228
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: So, you know, these are the kind of things where

1229
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 2: I think a lot of black people, because we're still

1230
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 2: living through all this bullshit and we tired all the pain,

1231
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: we kind of run away from it, which is a

1232
00:59:56,120 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: perfectly reasonable, valid, fucking response to this.

1233
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 4: Is not me shitting on black people. I never would.

1234
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: You don't have to watch this shit if you don't

1235
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: want to, and nobody should make you feel ashamed for

1236
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: not wanting to live through shit that's gonna traumatize you

1237
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 2: or trigger you or whatever that being said. I don't

1238
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: mind going through those emotions for worthwhile art and entertainment

1239
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 2: and information. So I will watch it to see what

1240
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 2: is what it comes out like, because literally I hadn't

1241
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 2: heard of it, and I do want to.

1242
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 4: I want to know.

1243
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 2: I'm just I feel like, on the one hand, we

1244
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,280
Speaker 2: catch hell for not knowing, and people will be like

1245
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: black people don't never know their history. Oh you didn't

1246
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: know this, brother, Oh you're so pro black and you

1247
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 2: don't know that you're supposed to be that and you

1248
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: don't know this, And I'm like, yes, I didn't know that,

1249
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 2: and I'm a person that decided to do something about

1250
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: it and try to educate myself. I still understand that

1251
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 2: some people don't want to know because they just don't

1252
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: want to live through the trauma, right, And that's reasonable

1253
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: as well. It's the same reason people don't want to

1254
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 2: click on articles where they show a black person die,

1255
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 2: not everybody, you know. Sometimes I get convicted. I'm like

1256
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 2: I need to see it, and there's other times where

1257
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 2: I'm like I can't take one more second of seeing

1258
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 2: a black person something happened to them on camera.

1259
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 4: And I understand both.

1260
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 2: Sides of that, Like it's not like when I see

1261
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: black people that just instinctively like nope, I know what's happening.

1262
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 2: I don't need to see it, got it, Like, no

1263
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: one should ever make you feel bad about.

1264
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: That, right, And that's me. I am that person. I

1265
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 3: don't want to see black death. I don't want to

1266
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 3: see black bodies. I understand.

1267
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 5: I turn off all the fucking out of your place.

1268
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:38,479
Speaker 5: I turn them bitches off.

1269
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 3: Nope, don't because that shit was That shit would have

1270
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: you in fucking tears at your job.

1271
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 5: Open up your phone.

1272
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,440
Speaker 4: Fuck that. No, I would just.

1273
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 5: See people respond to how terrible, Liz, I take your

1274
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 5: word for it. I don't got to see it to understand.

1275
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: Look, it's all tough to watch, right, It's tough to

1276
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 2: be black, but it's all tough to watch.

1277
01:01:58,200 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 4: To be honest.

1278
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 2: Like I said, I watched the movie documentary and it's

1279
01:02:02,280 --> 01:02:03,959
Speaker 2: not a movie, it's not dramatized.

1280
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:09,920
Speaker 4: It's still tough to watch. You know. I'm watching the disregard.

1281
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 2: For black lives happen on the air, you know, like

1282
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:15,720
Speaker 2: I'm watching it willfully because I want to know these things.

1283
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 4: I think some the reason for me that I feel.

1284
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 2: Convicted to watch this shit is because I do feel

1285
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 2: like there's always this impulse in our minds to forgive

1286
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 2: forget and move on from the reality of what this

1287
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 2: country is. And I think that sometimes has extremely negative effects,

1288
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,600
Speaker 2: and I personally.

1289
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 4: Never want to forget.

1290
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 2: Correct Like sometimes when I look at the people that

1291
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 2: are saying the really harmful shit that are black, I

1292
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 2: just think it's a coping mechanism for trauma and they're

1293
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 2: able to they do that because they distance themselves from reality.

1294
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 2: And I mean, when I say harmful shit, this isn't

1295
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,360
Speaker 2: just the people that walk around out saying like hotel

1296
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 2: nonsense and shit.

1297
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 4: Those people are harmful too.

1298
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about even people that say stuff like

1299
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: pull youself up like bootstraps. I worked hard, you should

1300
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 2: be able to work hard. Racism never held me back.

1301
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: I just gripped my teeth and go I need those people.

1302
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: Those those people sound like they don't know about this

1303
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 2: and like they and like they also run from this

1304
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: shit and go nothing to do with me. I don't

1305
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: watch those videos. I don't do that, and they just

1306
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 2: kind of lose their way. And and I'm definitely afraid,

1307
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 2: probably irrationally so, of being that kind of person, because

1308
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to feel like you can just

1309
01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 2: overcome racism or it hasn't affected people unfairly in this

1310
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 2: country to the point of death and incarceration and all

1311
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: this other shit, while while I'm sitting up here being

1312
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 2: able to live good, you.

1313
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 5: Know, right, and it's on someone these things for me,

1314
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 5: just like.

1315
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 3: A timid uh what its name. But we went to

1316
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: the African American Center and seeing the casket.

1317
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, uh til im Mittel.

1318
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 3: Sorry, mother was saying that, and a lot of niggas

1319
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 3: stopped up this that North. You know, folk get up

1320
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 3: north too, through generations. They was like, oh, that's some

1321
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 3: shit them down down south from the niggas got to

1322
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,200
Speaker 3: deal with until they knocks at your door. And a

1323
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: lot of people only care about them and theirs and

1324
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 3: as long as they quote unquote feel like racism does

1325
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,200
Speaker 3: not directly affect them, they're all right.

1326
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of time times people ignore it.

1327
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 5: But I am.

1328
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 3: I am the type of person a lot of stuff

1329
01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 3: I diff in and out.

1330
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 5: I kind of pick and choose what.

1331
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 3: I watch, And I know for me, I'm the type

1332
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,640
Speaker 3: of person and I and a lot of it, A

1333
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 3: lot of.

1334
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 5: It has to do with my age.

1335
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,160
Speaker 3: I'm to the point, like Nigga, I will never forget

1336
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 3: like but I know, for some people that's their way

1337
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 3: of coping is just pushing it away, acting like it

1338
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,160
Speaker 3: don't exist, acting like everything's great, acting like everything's okay,

1339
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 3: until something happens, and then all of a sudden, you're shocked,

1340
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 3: you're surprise, you don't know how to handle it, your

1341
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 3: children don't know how to handle it, and it's and

1342
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: it's sad, but it's not the right way to handle

1343
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 3: it because there's no fucking Niggas don't get a manumal

1344
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 3: when they're born to tell them how to deal with

1345
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 3: white folks thinking they're less than. There's no manual, there's

1346
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 3: no book, there's no program, there's no class. A lot

1347
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:24,439
Speaker 3: of it is just taught generational because people said, hey,

1348
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:27,520
Speaker 3: I live to my sixties and seventies whatever, and these

1349
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 3: are the techniques that I use. As you get older,

1350
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 3: you have to learn your own techniques to deal with

1351
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,080
Speaker 3: and get around these things. Because I guess my thing

1352
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 3: is it's a two way street to that, because I

1353
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 3: understand what you're saying. But for some people, they go

1354
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 3: too far on what you're saying. They go to the

1355
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 3: point where it's almost devastating, you know, in my mind,

1356
01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 3: where you have to have a balance. You can't be heartache,

1357
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 3: pain sorrow all the time. You have to take mental breaks,

1358
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 3: you have to step away, you have to go to

1359
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 3: your happy place. You gotta do others. You can't be there.

1360
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 5: All the time. And the thing about people being there

1361
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 5: all the time, not.

1362
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 4: All, but some of them turn around and look at

1363
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 4: everybody else, like something wrong with you for not watching

1364
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 4: certain things.

1365
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 5: It's me because I know for me personally, I'm turned off.

1366
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 5: Like I've never watched twelve years of swave.

1367
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,080
Speaker 3: The biggest reason why I didn't watch twelve People say

1368
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 3: because nigga's like it's joll sad and shit elver.

1369
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 5: I'm good. I know how I function. I'm good. But

1370
01:06:23,080 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 5: like I say, everybody responds differently. I guess I'm in

1371
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,600
Speaker 5: the middle. Like I said, I dip and dab.

1372
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:31,919
Speaker 3: I don't have to visually see things to understand the hurt,

1373
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 3: to understand the paint.

1374
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 5: I know that it's thearing.

1375
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:35,280
Speaker 4: I believe you.

1376
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 5: I'm not the type of person when niggas say shit going,

1377
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:39,120
Speaker 5: I don't believe you. I believe you.

1378
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: I feel I just need to know. I can't speak

1379
01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 2: for anybody else, but I feel robbed. I feel like

1380
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: our history has been robbed of us, I feel, and

1381
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:50,439
Speaker 2: I don't mean like our past in Africa, and shit,

1382
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:55,680
Speaker 2: I'm talking about stories from the eighties, seventies, sixties, people

1383
01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: like I feel like everything I swept up under the

1384
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: Martin Luther king out In most people's school, that's all

1385
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 2: you learn about civil rights, and then it's on to

1386
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: the next chapter.

1387
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,120
Speaker 4: And I feel like I'm still learning shit.

1388
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 2: And I'm thirty eight, and I'm not a person that's

1389
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 2: run from this my whole life. So I'm still learning shit.

1390
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 2: So I have a thirst for knowledge and I'm gonna

1391
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 2: continue to use it. I don't know the thing is,

1392
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:24,680
Speaker 2: and I want to doubly stress this, a fucking movie

1393
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 2: is not necessarily the best educational tool. There's plenty of

1394
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: ways to learn. I just had literally never heard about this.

1395
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: This is the first time I heard about this. Algiers Incident,

1396
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 2: Algi's Motel Incident Detroit, and I'm like, I need to

1397
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,000
Speaker 2: see it, Like I need to see it. If it's bad,

1398
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: I'll let you know it's bad. I won't like, I

1399
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 2: have no problem with that. If it's inaccurate, which all

1400
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 2: movies are to some extent, and it gets roasted I'll

1401
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 2: read all the think pieces about why it's inaccurate, but

1402
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,440
Speaker 2: I personally feel there's a conviction inside of me and

1403
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: an anger almost at how much we've been robbed.

1404
01:07:56,600 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 4: And I feel like, to some extent, I want to

1405
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 4: get it bad.

1406
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 2: I want to get as much knowledge as I can

1407
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,320
Speaker 2: while I can, you know.

1408
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 5: And that's true.

1409
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 3: And one thing I can say about you, and I've

1410
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 3: said it for you have kind of challenged me to

1411
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 3: dig It's not the fact that I was running away.

1412
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 5: It's the fact that, oh, I know that's hurting pain. No,

1413
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 5: I'm good, I'm good. I ain't got to see it.

1414
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 3: You know, I was with it that type of a

1415
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,960
Speaker 3: person like I am aware. I acknowledged things, but I

1416
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 3: didn't have to see it. I didn't have to I

1417
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 3: didn't have to visualize it. I was like, I'm good.

1418
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know what we're I You know, I

1419
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,400
Speaker 2: feel like I talked about this all the time. We

1420
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 2: are superheroes, So I don't feel shame about it. No,

1421
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: Like it's not like I have empathy for the people

1422
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 2: that went through the shit that's the kind of pain.

1423
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 2: But more than that, I have pride. You know, when

1424
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 2: we saw hitting figures I was mad that we weren't

1425
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 2: taught about hitting figures correct.

1426
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 4: You know what I mean.

1427
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 2: Like, as much as I loved the movie, and you

1428
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 2: can hear it in our review, I'm like, like, when

1429
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 2: we got to the negatives for the movie, it's like, well,

1430
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,879
Speaker 2: nothing really with the movie was too negative.

1431
01:08:58,400 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 4: You know.

1432
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,160
Speaker 2: I did hear a couple like, oh this isident, didn't

1433
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 2: happen that way.

1434
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 4: And all this shit.

1435
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,600
Speaker 2: You know, I get it, it is a movie. I

1436
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 2: recognize that, But I'm more mad that I didn't learn

1437
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 2: about these women when I was in junior high school.

1438
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 2: I'm mad that black girls that could have been pushed

1439
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:20,639
Speaker 2: towards stem opportunities probably never saw themselves reflected in that.

1440
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,040
Speaker 2: So they were like, why would I want to learn

1441
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: about science, technology, engineer, mathematics? Why would I want to

1442
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 2: What good is that gonna do me? But if they

1443
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 2: had known there were people out there like this that

1444
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: changed the fucking world, they might be a little more excited.

1445
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: So I do want to know about that stuff. I

1446
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:42,040
Speaker 2: love seeing that with Laila, you know. Like I said,

1447
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: I think sometimes because we don't want to be traumatized,

1448
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,440
Speaker 2: we kind of group everything into the same category.

1449
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 4: But and keep it.

1450
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Detroit looks like it's just gonna be all sad.

1451
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to. But at the same time, like

1452
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 2: twelve Years of Slave is also a story of perseverance,

1453
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 2: and it's a story of you know, ingenuity and survival

1454
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 2: and shit as well. You know, a story of a

1455
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: family that never gave up on the on they family member.

1456
01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 4: You know.

1457
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,680
Speaker 2: It's like, and honestly, the only people that should be

1458
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,080
Speaker 2: ashamed is white people because to me, the fact that

1459
01:10:18,120 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 2: you have are people that could do this to another

1460
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 2: people that says more about you than it says about me, homeboy, Like,

1461
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 2: y'all's the ones that.

1462
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 4: Should be ashamed in these movies, you know.

1463
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's so much around it and the trauma

1464
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,719
Speaker 2: around it because we don't talk about it, we don't

1465
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 2: share it.

1466
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:38,560
Speaker 4: Everyone's a shame. White people are shame because their ancestors

1467
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 4: did this shit.

1468
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 2: Black people are shamed because hey, I'm living a good

1469
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: life right now. Why I gotta worry about that? Don't

1470
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 2: we got enough going on in these streets? You know,

1471
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: Like everybody's supposed to be a shame And I'm just

1472
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 2: I want to take away the stigma about it for

1473
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 2: me because I'm not gonna be ashamed of somebody didn't do.

1474
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be ashamed of what you did to me.

1475
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 2: That's not That's not how this should work, you know

1476
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, like I said, I recognize and

1477
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 2: agree and understand that the trauma and that people want

1478
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:08,719
Speaker 2: to avoid it and want to this think happy thoughts

1479
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,560
Speaker 2: and shit, that's fine. But I just saying for me personally,

1480
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: you're not gonna make me a shame Like that's my

1481
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 2: battle cry is I'm not gonna be like I ain't

1482
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 2: watching those Slavery movies.

1483
01:11:19,680 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 4: The fuck I'm not. Why not? You know what I mean?

1484
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,519
Speaker 2: I didn't do shit, Like I was spending my twelve

1485
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 2: fifty to eat my popcorn and be like these white

1486
01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,240
Speaker 2: people ain't shit, And I'm gonna do it every year

1487
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: that they put a movie out, like as long as

1488
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 2: it look good, I'm gonna see it, you know. So

1489
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 2: that's not on me.

1490
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 5: No, it's not, And I don't I don't, I don't know.

1491
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 5: I don't feel shamed. You know.

1492
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 4: I'm not saying.

1493
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 2: I'm not saying this about you, like this is not

1494
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:47,839
Speaker 2: a debate we're having. Like I said, I I literally

1495
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 2: understand and empathize and would never I would never shame

1496
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 2: a black person who don't want to see these things correct.

1497
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: You know, I feel passionately about it for myself, but

1498
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:00,160
Speaker 2: I'm speaking from me.

1499
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna be a shamed.

1500
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,120
Speaker 2: These niggas are not gonna make me a shame because

1501
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 2: I used to feel that way. That's why I'm saying like,

1502
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: this isn't about other black this is about this only

1503
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 2: about me. I remember when Black History Mouth came around

1504
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: and they would show fucking eyes on the prize on

1505
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:18,120
Speaker 2: repeat in front of this class, and I would be

1506
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 2: in these academically get the classes. I'm one of two,

1507
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 2: maybe three black kids in the entire fucking class, and

1508
01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 2: I have to watch.

1509
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:27,599
Speaker 4: Them water holes black people.

1510
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:32,360
Speaker 2: And I used to feel a tremendous amount of embarrassment

1511
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 2: and shamed as if I did something wrong, you know,

1512
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 2: like like like damn, man, I come from people that

1513
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:39,599
Speaker 2: got fucked up.

1514
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 4: This is fucked up my people.

1515
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 2: Y'all fucked my people up, And I feel like y'all

1516
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 2: just gloating in this, like y'all get to go live

1517
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:48,440
Speaker 2: this privileged white existence.

1518
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 4: Feel unattached to this, and I feel attached to it

1519
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:53,880
Speaker 4: now in their heads. It probably wasn't even that way.

1520
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: I feel like most of the white kids and have

1521
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 2: felt ashamed and embarrassment of the fact that this happened

1522
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,320
Speaker 2: in this country, and that white people did this to

1523
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: my people, and they felt sorry about it to a

1524
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:06,360
Speaker 2: certain extent, and they are, you know, like they would

1525
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 2: be nicer towards me rather than meaner towards me. But

1526
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 2: still it was like a because we never talk about

1527
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:15,640
Speaker 2: it any other month of the year, at any other classroom,

1528
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 2: it becomes stigmatized to where this is a negative experience

1529
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,280
Speaker 2: that I'm having, and so are these white people having

1530
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 2: a negative experience. Everybody having a negative experience, and instead

1531
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:27,600
Speaker 2: of being educational, it just becomes about the emotions of

1532
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,599
Speaker 2: being ashamed. And I think that shit sticks with black

1533
01:13:29,640 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 2: people forever. There's fucking people that are angry when they

1534
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 2: hear about when people hear about the idea of Confederate

1535
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 2: and get mad off tops. I feel like that shit

1536
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 2: came with us forever, Like that's been with us forever.

1537
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:45,720
Speaker 2: That's like that shit started a long time ago before anyone.

1538
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,679
Speaker 4: Thought of this stupid ass show. I say stupid.

1539
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 2: The show might be great, I don't know, but the

1540
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 2: point being, there's a reason we reject this shit out

1541
01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:57,000
Speaker 2: right up front, and part of that is I think

1542
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 2: people quality can relate to to what I'm saying. There's

1543
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 2: a level of shame and stigmatization that we deal with

1544
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: when we discuss slavery in America, and when we dramatize

1545
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,800
Speaker 2: it and put it on TV and put it in

1546
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: documentaries and we put the civil rights and all the

1547
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: stuff that black.

1548
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 4: People go through in this country.

1549
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 2: For some reason, it's like we become ashamed of being

1550
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 2: the victims of this shit almost.

1551
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,280
Speaker 4: And that's what I push again, and I think.

1552
01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 5: Is purposely and strategically designed that me too.

1553
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:29,120
Speaker 2: But I have to mentally fight against it because I'm

1554
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 2: not just gonna be like, well it's designed that way.

1555
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:31,280
Speaker 4: Fuck it.

1556
01:14:31,680 --> 01:14:35,559
Speaker 2: I'm not seeing no black black pain movies. No, I'm

1557
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 2: not ashamed. I'm not looking away, y'all. I'm not flinching

1558
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 2: from this shit. I want to know you know, I'm

1559
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: not saying you have to like blow your buzz and

1560
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:47,120
Speaker 2: everybody gotta go see it. Rod Marrow wants to go

1561
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 2: see it. Has nothing to do with you. So yeah,

1562
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,719
Speaker 2: I will be going to see Detroit. But that's because

1563
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 2: that's how I feel like I felt.

1564
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 4: I never want to feel that way again.

1565
01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 5: That's that's true.

1566
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 3: And I think for me, and I know this might

1567
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 3: sound crazy, and I you know, the older I get,

1568
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 3: the more I've loved myself.

1569
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna tell you right now.

1570
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 3: The pride that I have and my race and my

1571
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 3: color and my people, I think within the past five years,

1572
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 3: it's changed, right and I'm gonna keep it real. A

1573
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 3: lot of it has changed because of the Internet. A

1574
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,720
Speaker 3: lot of it has changed with being around black activists,

1575
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:30,800
Speaker 3: black feminists.

1576
01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:32,599
Speaker 5: A lot of it has.

1577
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 3: Changed from looking at people that look like me and

1578
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:40,679
Speaker 3: seeing the things that they have to deal with.

1579
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:43,280
Speaker 5: You know, I didn't put like this. I didn't realize

1580
01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 5: the sacrifice. Put like this. I saw Martin Luther King.

1581
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,320
Speaker 3: You're talking about mart Luther King and the people in

1582
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:53,519
Speaker 3: the marches, you like, you see that shit. But it wasn't,

1583
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 3: like I said, until the last you know, five five

1584
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: to seven years, that I realized that shit that they

1585
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 3: went through, like like, I don't think it hit my

1586
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,240
Speaker 3: heart to the point that I respect what they do,

1587
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 3: not even the more because I completely understand.

1588
01:16:10,439 --> 01:16:12,040
Speaker 5: The sacrifice and what they have to deal with.

1589
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 3: Because I have these close relationships with people, and I

1590
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 3: see the scrutiny that they get, and I see the

1591
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 3: racism that they deal with, and NIC see the things

1592
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:20,439
Speaker 3: that they deal with.

1593
01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 5: Like, I'm to the point where I am in my

1594
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 5: own unique way.

1595
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 3: Everybody's not gonna be an activist, but in their own

1596
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 3: unique way they can fight against the system, you know,

1597
01:16:32,920 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 3: And I feel like me wearing my shirts mean, you know,

1598
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 3: coming out and saying I'm a feminist me Actually it's

1599
01:16:42,840 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 3: something as simple as me wearing my hair natural. Those

1600
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 3: are my ways and my little world to fight against

1601
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:54,360
Speaker 3: a system that's strategically designed to oppress me and make

1602
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:56,639
Speaker 3: me feel like my history is not valid.

1603
01:16:56,960 --> 01:16:57,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1604
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 2: Nah, your love is revolutionary, Your joy is revolutionary. Caring

1605
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 2: for yourself is like all this shit is revolutionary. It's

1606
01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:07,920
Speaker 2: you know, like when I've read the book about the

1607
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,599
Speaker 2: black women under slavery, dealing with white women that were

1608
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:14,920
Speaker 2: the mistresses of the house. Black women loving themselves is revolutionary,

1609
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 2: Like everything's designed to keep that from happening. Black women

1610
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: taking pride of themselves, black women dressing nice. As much

1611
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,280
Speaker 2: as people talk about materialism and y'all niggas would buying

1612
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:28,479
Speaker 2: some Jordan's that shit is actually still revolutionary because none

1613
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,240
Speaker 2: of this shit was designed for you to ever wear

1614
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 2: a nice pair of anything. None of this shit was

1615
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 2: ever supposed to great show back, gray show feet. I

1616
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:37,439
Speaker 2: know it's capitalism and all that shit. I hear you,

1617
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 2: but the the system was designed for you not to even.

1618
01:17:39,240 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 4: Participate in that.

1619
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:43,400
Speaker 2: So a lot of shit is revolutionary just by the

1620
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 2: very nature of its existence. You know, being educated is revolutionary,

1621
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: Starting your own business revolutionary.

1622
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 4: Right, some of this shit was just not for you.

1623
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 4: And I think black joy is revolutionary.

1624
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 2: So that's why I said you will never catch me

1625
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,959
Speaker 2: knocking black Peopleeople who are like, I don't want to

1626
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,800
Speaker 2: go through this, like, I don't knock black people that

1627
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 2: won't look like I see people do that shit. But

1628
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, so, y'all want to watch the video

1629
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 2: with Filando Cat still get killed, But y'all are watched

1630
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:15,080
Speaker 2: a world Star hip hop video or two people fighting

1631
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 2: on the bus, and I'm like, I really don't like

1632
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: watching either one of those. But to be honest, I

1633
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:23,840
Speaker 2: understand somebody says I'd rather watch a fight on the

1634
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 2: bus than watch a nigga get killed by the cops.

1635
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: I actually can relate, And I think we need to

1636
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 2: stop judging that right because they're human too. And if

1637
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: they don't want to deal with that shit and be crying,

1638
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,120
Speaker 2: did they work in they office or in they car

1639
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 2: or wherever. Maybe they just don't want to cry, you know,

1640
01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 2: maybe it's just not time, you know, Like I still

1641
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 2: I remember I cry when I was at home and

1642
01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 2: the closer arguments in the Trayvon Martin case, like his

1643
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 2: attorney made these arguments that really humanize Trayvon Martin, and

1644
01:18:51,080 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 2: I remember crying even though I knew he was gonna.

1645
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,560
Speaker 4: Lose, cause I said, that's the best.

1646
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 2: Argument you can make for the humanity of a black

1647
01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: kid in America.

1648
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 4: That's it.

1649
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 2: Like they're still gonna They're still not gonna convict this man,

1650
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:06,640
Speaker 2: and I knew they wouldn't the whole time, from the

1651
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,320
Speaker 2: second we talked about on the show what I said,

1652
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 2: they will not convict this man. But thank god for

1653
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: al Sharpen, thank god for the people that went down

1654
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,920
Speaker 2: there and stirred up a fuss that got this shit

1655
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 2: to gug did national tension so we could at least

1656
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 2: get a trial because they weren't gonna even put this

1657
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:24,120
Speaker 2: motherfucker on trial. You know, his parents didn't know what

1658
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: he was for a few days. Like that's the kind

1659
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 2: of shit that, you know, it's still going on, and

1660
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 2: I understand why people don't want to watch that.

1661
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:36,880
Speaker 4: You know. I wasn't not like I watched the whole trial.

1662
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna watch it.

1663
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 2: I just happened to flip to the closing arguments and

1664
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,519
Speaker 2: was like, I'm glad I saw that, But at the

1665
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: same time, it made me cry.

1666
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 4: It made me sad.

1667
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:48,719
Speaker 2: It's not like this shit is fluffy ponies and dragons

1668
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,599
Speaker 2: and shit. This shit is serious, you know. So yeah,

1669
01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 2: I completely relate, and I understand why people.

1670
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:54,439
Speaker 4: Be like I haven't.

1671
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 2: I'm good, I don't need to see that shit, and

1672
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,839
Speaker 2: I'm happy. But like I said, I'm gonna go see Detroit.

1673
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 2: You know, I want to see Confederate.

1674
01:20:02,439 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 4: I want to see uh all this shit, man, I

1675
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 4: want to see it, you know, Like I there for

1676
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 4: me personally, these are the things I like to know,

1677
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 4: you know, especially when people try to challenge us historically.

1678
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 4: And maybe that's part of the reason.

1679
01:20:16,920 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 2: It's because I get in these conversations sometimes when people

1680
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,680
Speaker 2: try to act like shit was better back then, or

1681
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: shit was worse now, or shit is different now or

1682
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:26,920
Speaker 2: all that shit.

1683
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 4: And I like to be like, well, you know, did

1684
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:29,240
Speaker 4: you hear about this?

1685
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 5: You know?

1686
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 2: And sometimes I feel bad, Like I said, I feel

1687
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 2: angry sometimes when I hear about something I didn't know about.

1688
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 2: When I hear about Black Wall Street and I'm fucking

1689
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 2: thirty five, I get bad right now.

1690
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,479
Speaker 4: I'm like, how did I not know that already? Why

1691
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,639
Speaker 4: isn't this in a book that is taught in every

1692
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 4: school in America?

1693
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,840
Speaker 5: Right? Dack, like that shit, I've never heard about that,

1694
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:50,760
Speaker 5: right yo?

1695
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 4: So if I go watch that documentary or if there's

1696
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 4: a TV series based on it, you god damn right,

1697
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it.

1698
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 5: What I'm wrong?

1699
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,600
Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna watch it is you know, it's not

1700
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 4: morbid or anything.

1701
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 2: I just want to know, you know. I feel angry,

1702
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 2: I feel robbed, I feel cheated. I feel like we

1703
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 2: need the biggest thing they can take from us as

1704
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 2: our knowledge. And then that shit is the stuff that

1705
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,360
Speaker 2: enables you to be stupid, Like some of these celebrities

1706
01:21:14,360 --> 01:21:16,040
Speaker 2: that get interviewed and say stupid shit, and we.

1707
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 4: Like, how did that nigga get so stupid?

1708
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 2: Cause they not educated, and they don't care about their history,

1709
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 2: so they just feel like, I'm doing good right now,

1710
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,479
Speaker 2: So why the fuck would I care about this racism shit?

1711
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,760
Speaker 2: Why why y'all gotta always be marching in the.

1712
01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 3: Street right like they're doing it just for your health, right.

1713
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,120
Speaker 2: It's that kind of shit. Like when you hear somebody

1714
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: say some stupid shit in the interview and.

1715
01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:41,080
Speaker 4: They black, That's what I be thinking, is like, like I.

1716
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:43,360
Speaker 2: Be wanting to ask them, so, what about the move bombing?

1717
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: What about Black Wall Street?

1718
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 4: You know?

1719
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 2: What about the church bombing? What about you know? Like

1720
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,439
Speaker 2: what like where are you at on this shit? Cause

1721
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 2: I feel like for the vast majority of them, they're

1722
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 2: gonna be like, I don't know nothing about that. Why

1723
01:21:57,880 --> 01:21:59,559
Speaker 2: you bringing that shit up? They ain't got nothing to

1724
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: do with me, you know. So that's what I think about.

1725
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 2: But anyway, Uh, as I said, well, her interview asks us,

1726
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:12,960
Speaker 2: I don't feel fucked with, to be honest, Uh, we.

1727
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,880
Speaker 3: Will see like like if then we trash people will

1728
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 3: let you know immediately.

1729
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,679
Speaker 4: Yeah badly young black or rich?

1730
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 2: If that don't let you know that America understands black.

1731
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,760
Speaker 4: Matter these days, I don't know what it is don't

1732
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 4: collect me with that though. Man, my life matter, especially tomorrow. Yep.

1733
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 2: So anyway, but ye'all, I watched the one about the

1734
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:40,480
Speaker 2: move bothering on PBS.

1735
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 4: They put it on. It's on Amazon. I had to

1736
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,840
Speaker 4: pay for it. But I watched that last week. Man,

1737
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 4: Glad I watched it.

1738
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 5: You know.

1739
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,680
Speaker 2: Uh it was wild as fuck. I talked about it

1740
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 2: with Justin on the pre game. But uh, glad, I

1741
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: rather know DI not know correct. Motherfucker's bomb a building

1742
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,439
Speaker 2: that is, that's the wildest ship you ever gonna see

1743
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 2: in a fucking city, in a city, not like the

1744
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 2: branch Davidians out somewhere in wake off these motherfucker's bomb

1745
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 2: a building in the city, straight up a.

1746
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 5: Warning and say nigga, y'all better leave.

1747
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 2: And that that right there draws a direct parallel to

1748
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 2: how they got rid of that dude with the robot bomb.

1749
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 2: Come on now to me, like, that's the kind I'm

1750
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:22,439
Speaker 2: glad I know about it because now I can make

1751
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 2: that comparison and be like, HMMs, she really changed that much.

1752
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 5: I don't know it has none.

1753
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 3: I don't think a lot of people federalized history repeats itself,

1754
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 3: So I don't know what I should know, and if

1755
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm trying to do a better job

1756
01:23:38,360 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 3: at challenging myself to learn.

1757
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:43,000
Speaker 5: But yet it's the same because y'allahd a robot in

1758
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 5: there to blow that nigga up.

1759
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, Glad, I know Uh an eighteen

1760
01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 2: year old South Berlinton High School students facing UH.

1761
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 4: He's a graduate.

1762
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 2: He's facing a felony unlawful mischief charge for allegedly spray

1763
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 2: painting racist graffiti on the athletic field in South berlin

1764
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 2: In High School on June sixth. Tyler Austin, who graduated

1765
01:24:03,920 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 2: in June, was cited Friday to appear on the charge

1766
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 2: in the Vermont Superior Court on August twenty sixth.

1767
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 4: He has released.

1768
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 2: He was released after being cited and remains free until

1769
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:17,920
Speaker 2: the arraignment. South Burlington Belize Chief Trevor Whipple issued a

1770
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: statement Friday saying the pending charges came after lengthy investigation

1771
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:25,280
Speaker 2: involving numerous interviews, evidence collection, and forensic analysis. He did

1772
01:24:25,320 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 2: not say whether that specifically what led to Austin. Isaiah Hines,

1773
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 2: the recent South Burlington High School grad who led the

1774
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:34,880
Speaker 2: push to drop the rebels.

1775
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 4: Nicknames was said to.

1776
01:24:36,720 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 2: Be the target of the graffiti, and that the raffiti

1777
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 2: the graffiti referred to him by his by name as

1778
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 2: a dumb nigger. So Isaiah Hines is a dumb nigger,

1779
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 2: I guess was the graffiti because he didn't want them

1780
01:24:53,400 --> 01:24:55,960
Speaker 2: to be named the rebels anymore, because guess what the

1781
01:24:55,960 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 2: rebels are the Confederates. Police have been mum on what

1782
01:25:02,560 --> 01:25:04,639
Speaker 2: exactly the graffiti said and who was the target.

1783
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:06,840
Speaker 4: I'm again not repeating nor confront of what was written.

1784
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,080
Speaker 2: Whipple said the word it will be public record once

1785
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 2: now of David's fire with the court in the next

1786
01:25:11,360 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 2: few weeks. He acknowledged Haines told seven Days that he

1787
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 2: was a leader here depending charges. I guess it's nice

1788
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:20,519
Speaker 2: to ask some sort of like closure, he said. All

1789
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: this black head did would say, man, Yo, this name

1790
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,839
Speaker 2: is racist. I think y'all should change it. And now

1791
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,800
Speaker 2: to prove that it's not racist, you call him.

1792
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:28,519
Speaker 4: A dumb nigger.

1793
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 5: I don't understand how that goes.

1794
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 4: What's the logic there.

1795
01:25:37,560 --> 01:25:41,000
Speaker 3: It's not logic. Yeah, racism is irrational and illogical. People

1796
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 3: don't understand that.

1797
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm trying to trying to follow your logic.

1798
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 2: But how you gonna be like, I'm not racist, you

1799
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:52,439
Speaker 2: stupid ass nigger.

1800
01:25:52,880 --> 01:25:55,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of people say that, particularly on social media.

1801
01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that seems maybe I'm tripping. Maybe that's what it is.

1802
01:26:01,200 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 4: I don't know. Come on, so calling them thugs, just

1803
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:09,439
Speaker 4: call them niggas, Just call them niggers. Just call them niggers. Uh.

1804
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,599
Speaker 2: Wibble said he decided not to pursue hate crime charges

1805
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 2: after study. In Vermond's law, a hate crime has to

1806
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 2: be have a crime director at a person, and this

1807
01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 2: is a crime director at a property. As troubling as

1808
01:26:19,760 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: it is, it doesn't qualify.

1809
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:23,759
Speaker 4: You said my name.

1810
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: On the graffiti and called me a dumb nigger. How's

1811
01:26:26,160 --> 01:26:27,720
Speaker 2: it not directed as a person.

1812
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 5: Cause you put it on the grass.

1813
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 4: So wait, if he's spray painted me, Dennis at crime

1814
01:26:33,160 --> 01:26:34,960
Speaker 4: like he got a spray painted on my chest?

1815
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 5: Apparently so and Dennis still might not be a hate crime?

1816
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 4: How is that not a hate crime?

1817
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 3: Dog?

1818
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:43,760
Speaker 5: Because nothing's a hate crime and no more.

1819
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,080
Speaker 4: That's pretty much the definition of a hate crime.

1820
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,759
Speaker 2: You said my name and call me a dumb nigger,

1821
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: and he spray painted in public property?

1822
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 4: You hate crime me?

1823
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:53,320
Speaker 5: Bruh.

1824
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 2: Still Wibble faces charges, said the charges are indication in

1825
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 2: the community won't tolerate racist plays.

1826
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,280
Speaker 4: This racist based coffiti is not acceptable, and.

1827
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: We're hoping that this sends a message that is not

1828
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:06,480
Speaker 2: acceptable and there are consequences.

1829
01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:13,160
Speaker 4: He said, mm hmmm, uh zero two hundred, a hundred yep, yep,

1830
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 4: that's one hundred for me. Uh.

1831
01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 2: Major candidate opponent supporters tells opponent supporters to go back

1832
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:20,320
Speaker 2: to Africa.

1833
01:27:21,000 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 4: Hmmmm.

1834
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's not racist, though probably doesn't have a

1835
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:25,880
Speaker 2: racist bons body.

1836
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 5: Candidate got a black friend.

1837
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:30,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure he has several black friends and doesn't even

1838
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 2: see race.

1839
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 4: Uh huh, yep, mm hmm. Come on, So calling them thugs,

1840
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:40,479
Speaker 4: just call them niggers, Just call them niggers. Just call

1841
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,439
Speaker 4: them niggers. Yep.

1842
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 2: Paul come jimmy, six year Republican long shot in the

1843
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:50,879
Speaker 2: race for mayor Saint Petersburg, Florida. Uh seized the headlines

1844
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,320
Speaker 2: when he launched in the tale of Tirade that mentioned

1845
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 2: former President Barack Obama and brought up Florida to Africa

1846
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,679
Speaker 2: flight plans to the avocause of his rival, Jesse Neville,

1847
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: who is white.

1848
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 5: What this is white crime?

1849
01:28:07,600 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 4: Oh my god?

1850
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 5: What is happening.

1851
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 4: What's the logic to this?

1852
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:12,000
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1853
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 2: Listen, you white people supporting this white man, go back

1854
01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: to Africa, but I've never been.

1855
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, not even from there. In fact, my people were

1856
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:20,679
Speaker 5: from Europe.

1857
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 4: I'm South Africa. I don't know.

1858
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 2: Uh, mister Neville, you and your people, you talk about reparations.

1859
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 2: Oh wait, can I play this all right? I know

1860
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:33,479
Speaker 2: we almost at the break, it's forty five seconds. Uh,

1861
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 2: maybe i'll play it when we get back. If if

1862
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 2: it won't start right away and it won't all right,

1863
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 2: I'll play it.

1864
01:28:40,120 --> 01:28:42,599
Speaker 4: When we get back. Give me one second, everybody.

1865
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm a switch over sessions now so we don't get

1866
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 2: cut off.

1867
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 4: But that is some bullshit. Why don't you and.

1868
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 2: Your supporters go back to Africa, buddy? They all saying,

1869
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 2: go back to Africa. None of us been to Africa, motherfucker.

1870
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 2: Y'all took us from now, and I ain't never been

1871
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 2: this my home. I got more roots here than y'all

1872
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:06,160
Speaker 2: do now, Like y'all go back to Ireland, wherever the

1873
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 2: fuck you from. You probably know some people from there,

1874
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 2: you got great great grandpas and shit, I don't know

1875
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 2: nobody from.

1876
01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:14,040
Speaker 5: Africa, right, everybody came on a boat. Unless you're Native American.

1877
01:29:14,439 --> 01:29:16,360
Speaker 4: You came on a boat, dog, right.

1878
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 2: Fuck you talking about go back to Africa? Beat you

1879
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 2: go back, go back to Africa. It looks for some

1880
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,840
Speaker 2: more slaves. That's y'all fault. Y'all got us right, y'all

1881
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 2: didn't keep the.

1882
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 4: Receipt talking about go back to Africa.

1883
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:36,920
Speaker 2: Shit, better pull out a ninety day receipt, motherfucker. This

1884
01:29:37,000 --> 01:29:40,880
Speaker 2: is the warranties expired on us. You can't send us

1885
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 2: back the Saint Walmart no return?

1886
01:29:43,920 --> 01:29:45,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, go at that.

1887
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,439
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I bought these niggers four hundred and fifty

1888
01:29:48,479 --> 01:29:51,920
Speaker 2: seven years ago. I'm just wondering, do you guys accept

1889
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 2: returns or maybe even exchanges on some new niggers. I

1890
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,960
Speaker 2: take some new niggas if you got them, got new model,

1891
01:29:58,280 --> 01:30:00,680
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean I just want to send them

1892
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 2: back to Africa, and uh, you know, y'all keep the money.

1893
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:05,960
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna keep the money that I made

1894
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 4: off of them.

1895
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 2: But all right, yeah, let me see if I can

1896
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 2: put this nigga on screen so y'all can see that

1897
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 2: exchange rate.

1898
01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:14,840
Speaker 4: Right, do y'all have?

1899
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:19,160
Speaker 2: I will pay the unboxing the reboxing fee on these niggas.

1900
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 2: Can y'all just sell some open boxing niggers because uh,

1901
01:30:22,160 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 2: I just wanted to go back to Africa.

1902
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 4: I don't care how they get back here. But uh look, we.

1903
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:30,520
Speaker 2: Bought these niggas straight cash, and I don't have the paper.

1904
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 4: Receipt, but I do have the receipt that we had

1905
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:37,679
Speaker 4: in America and sold, so maybe we could work something out.

1906
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 4: Is it shawing all right? Here?

1907
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 5: He is.

1908
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:46,360
Speaker 4: You and your people. You talk about reparations, the reparations

1909
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:49,880
Speaker 4: that you talk about, mister Neville, your people already got

1910
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:55,840
Speaker 4: your reparations. Your reparations. Your reparations came in the form

1911
01:30:56,160 --> 01:31:03,560
Speaker 4: of a man named Barack Obama.

1912
01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 5: Please hold you so.

1913
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 4: My advice to you, my advice to you if you

1914
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 4: don't like it here in America, plans leave every hour

1915
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 4: from Tenport, go back to Africa.

1916
01:31:17,479 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 5: Go back to Africa.

1917
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 4: See the real non Okay, let's go back to Africa. Guys.

1918
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 2: You got Barack Obama, We got our reparations. What y'all

1919
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:34,719
Speaker 2: so mad about?

1920
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:36,960
Speaker 5: And you know what a lot of white people feel

1921
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:37,679
Speaker 5: just like him.

1922
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 4: Yep, he just had the courage to say it.

1923
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 5: Come on now, he just wanted willing to tell the truth.

1924
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:43,160
Speaker 4: Yep.

1925
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:45,360
Speaker 5: Uh.

1926
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 4: He said, I never met Jesse Neville until last night.

1927
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:50,760
Speaker 4: He's obvious. It's obviously he's a self hating white man.

1928
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,920
Speaker 2: Y'all also said he was not politically correct, as if

1929
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:59,800
Speaker 2: y'all needed to know that, and it wouldn't.

1930
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 3: Be sound like, uh, he was actually talking to black folks,

1931
01:32:02,680 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 3: because I immediately heard some get out of here.

1932
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, yeah, she talking with some black folks.

1933
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 3: Right, you know how you know what, We don't hold

1934
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 3: the responses back.

1935
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,479
Speaker 5: We let you know immediately how we feel.

1936
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 2: And now we know why Bernie Sanders they want to

1937
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:18,120
Speaker 2: talk about reparations.

1938
01:32:18,439 --> 01:32:20,479
Speaker 3: Come on now, now you know a lot a lot

1939
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,640
Speaker 3: of times that's differ between kind of black not not

1940
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,559
Speaker 3: in jenial black folks and white folks. White folks, you

1941
01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 3: do a good job, they kind of meet you after

1942
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:28,800
Speaker 3: the show, tell you how good you did, shake your hand,

1943
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 3: and tell you how great. Niggas will let you know

1944
01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:33,120
Speaker 3: right then and there in your face it they liked,

1945
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 3: what the hell you did?

1946
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:40,160
Speaker 4: Uh. Coco Austin, who you guys may know as Ice Cube,

1947
01:32:40,240 --> 01:32:43,080
Speaker 4: Ice Tea's wife. I think that's his wife.

1948
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:43,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, Cocoa.

1949
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,479
Speaker 4: Uh, huh yep, shout out to my shirt Ice tea.

1950
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:47,240
Speaker 3: Uh.

1951
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:51,640
Speaker 2: She vigorously defended herself on Saturday from online backlash for

1952
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 2: getting corn Roads and christening their hairstyle the Coco swoop.

1953
01:32:56,120 --> 01:33:07,320
Speaker 5: Ah, not that swoop, not dug Coco swoop. That's hilarious

1954
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,280
Speaker 5: and she get a hundred. But that's hilarious.

1955
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,880
Speaker 2: Really, Coco, you invented it. You're just gonna get out

1956
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 2: the credit, the.

1957
01:33:15,680 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 3: Same hairstyle most black people have been getting to stay

1958
01:33:19,479 --> 01:33:20,120
Speaker 3: with children.

1959
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:24,639
Speaker 4: All that fake ass and fake titties and all that shit. Hey,

1960
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 4: you really just gonna think you invented that. You invented

1961
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,599
Speaker 4: the hairstyle right by yourself.

1962
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 3: But tell your hair, like, especially if it's a real help,

1963
01:33:34,479 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 3: because most white people's hair when they get braids, they

1964
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 3: go to the American get that ship.

1965
01:33:38,360 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 5: Their hair knocks up because it's their hair.

1966
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:43,759
Speaker 3: Literally can't hold hold that and it tangles and twists

1967
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 3: and shit.

1968
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,439
Speaker 5: You better be careful. I hope you got weaving on

1969
01:33:47,439 --> 01:33:48,599
Speaker 5: something that you're gonna tell your help.

1970
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 4: I'm sure some of us weave. Everybody want to be

1971
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 4: a nigga. Don't nobody want to be a nigga?

1972
01:33:53,880 --> 01:34:02,880
Speaker 2: Come on, Coco, said, uh, you know, this is her

1973
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 2: new hairstyt of Coco. So some people online apparently saw

1974
01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 2: cultural appropriation and Coco's decision to name the braids after

1975
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 2: the herself, but she insisted she gives sober quies to

1976
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:16,480
Speaker 2: all her hairdooes, so I guess she names all her hairdooes.

1977
01:34:17,040 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 2: In the first of two Instagram videos, Coco said, so recently,

1978
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,320
Speaker 2: I got social media's panties in a bunch because I

1979
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 2: did braids to my hair.

1980
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 4: This is so stupid.

1981
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,679
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm talking about it, and I believe

1982
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be turned out to be a race thing.

1983
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 4: Oh is that what you believe?

1984
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 5: Didn't nobody asks you what you believe? Baby? You called

1985
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 5: it the cocoasmotion.

1986
01:34:35,479 --> 01:34:37,720
Speaker 3: People are looking like, well, honey, Nigga's been getting this

1987
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,000
Speaker 3: hairstyles as they've been doing.

1988
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 5: What are you talking about? Right?

1989
01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 2: They love saying some shit like I can't believe y'all

1990
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,840
Speaker 2: so mad about this, like Nigga, will not you mad?

1991
01:34:45,960 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: So recently I got social media's panties in the bunch

1992
01:34:49,200 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: because I did grades to my hair.

1993
01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 5: This is so stupid.

1994
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,799
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm talking about it. And I believe

1995
01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:57,920
Speaker 1: this shouldn't be turned out to be a race thing.

1996
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:01,720
Speaker 1: But this is what happened. I did my braids, and

1997
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 1: I called them.

1998
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:03,240
Speaker 5: The cocoa swoop.

1999
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: I name all my styles that I do to myself.

2000
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,599
Speaker 1: These are called the cocoa swoop. The braids before called

2001
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 1: the bo Derrick braids, and it's a cocoism.

2002
01:35:14,520 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 5: I've always done it.

2003
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 1: Why can't we all rename hairstyles or braids?

2004
01:35:19,960 --> 01:35:21,240
Speaker 5: That sounds so stupid.

2005
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: Why is everybody claiming something they shouldn't? I know, braids

2006
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 1: have been around for thousands of years. Don't you think

2007
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 1: I know that if I want to wear a pineapple

2008
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: on my head, then I should be able to wear

2009
01:35:33,200 --> 01:35:35,440
Speaker 1: a pineapple on my head and call it the pineapple

2010
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:36,759
Speaker 1: coca wop.

2011
01:35:37,760 --> 01:35:38,280
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2012
01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,679
Speaker 1: You see how I'm going with this? Why is everybody haiti?

2013
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: Let me add to what I was saying. People renam

2014
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 1: hairstyles all day long. Look Beyonce, Beyonce, she does this

2015
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:52,760
Speaker 1: hairstyle and now it's below lemonade. But no one's gonna

2016
01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 1: get mad at her. Right, So at the end of

2017
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 1: the day, this shouldn't be a race war. This should

2018
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:02,160
Speaker 1: be a human thing, right, Everybody should be able to

2019
01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:03,639
Speaker 1: do it. It's a human thing.

2020
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 5: Give that a shot, not a race war.

2021
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 4: Who named Beyonce's head deliminade?

2022
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 3: Is that a thing I I to be having? Let

2023
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,000
Speaker 3: me know, I didn't know how his style was called elimonade?

2024
01:36:16,800 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 4: Right, mm, I don't know about that, Coco.

2025
01:36:21,200 --> 01:36:23,000
Speaker 6: But this just goes to show you that no one

2026
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:27,479
Speaker 6: reads the captions underneath pictures. Otherwise you would understand that

2027
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 6: this is not an issue. It's something that I do.

2028
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,120
Speaker 6: It's a coco ism. Okay, Now to.

2029
01:36:33,160 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 1: The love out there, thank you, thank you, thank you.

2030
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:35,960
Speaker 4: I see it.

2031
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 1: I see all the comments. You know. A power to

2032
01:36:39,000 --> 01:36:41,800
Speaker 1: you guys, Because I get this much love and that

2033
01:36:41,920 --> 01:36:44,400
Speaker 1: much hate is sometimes just got to come in and

2034
01:36:44,520 --> 01:36:48,280
Speaker 1: say something about it because it's so disgusting that we

2035
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 1: should be like loving each other instead of hating on

2036
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:52,760
Speaker 1: each other because of a hairstyle.

2037
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:56,799
Speaker 4: Listen, one that ain't no type of apology.

2038
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck she's talking about.

2039
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:00,920
Speaker 5: Apologize.

2040
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 4: Right, here's the thing with Koco. Though you are.

2041
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:10,679
Speaker 2: A person that is famous for a copying the body

2042
01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:14,760
Speaker 2: of a black woman, we're not gonna pretend that it's

2043
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 2: something else, because it's not all the implants and the

2044
01:37:18,000 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 2: titty and the booty shit and the way you dress

2045
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,400
Speaker 2: and being around a hip hop icon as your husband

2046
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:27,640
Speaker 2: or fiance or pimp or whatever the fuck the relationship is.

2047
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 4: And I don't mean that dispectfully. I literally don't know.

2048
01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 2: But I know they had a TV show together. I

2049
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 2: don't know if they married an that is what I'm saying.

2050
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,760
Speaker 2: And I know ice T credits themselves as being a

2051
01:37:37,760 --> 01:37:39,240
Speaker 2: pimp and always talking dropping game.

2052
01:37:39,280 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 4: I don't know what the relationship is.

2053
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 2: All that shit to say, Man, you can't want to

2054
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 2: be part of this culture and not understand this culture.

2055
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:52,000
Speaker 2: You can't want to be part of this shit and

2056
01:37:52,040 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 2: not take the critique of black women.

2057
01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,519
Speaker 4: Seriously, you can't do it. You can't just chop it

2058
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 4: up the haters. You never sounded whiter than you just

2059
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 4: did with the whole like these haters are coming from me,

2060
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:04,439
Speaker 4: and uh, you know how what it is. We just

2061
01:38:04,479 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 4: should be loving each other like dog, Just be like

2062
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 4: my bad. I didn't mean I shouldn't have named it.

2063
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:11,559
Speaker 4: I didn't know that that was the thing. I didn't

2064
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:13,120
Speaker 4: mean to take I'm not trying to take it away

2065
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 4: from anybody. My fault the end, and you know.

2066
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,519
Speaker 3: What, I'm gonna keep it real and I'm just this

2067
01:38:18,640 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 3: is me. I don't care about what you do to

2068
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:22,639
Speaker 3: your tit is what you do to your ass.

2069
01:38:22,640 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 5: But you I don't care what you do.

2070
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:28,479
Speaker 3: The problem is once you cross the line and you

2071
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,639
Speaker 3: name it or claim that you've had first, and then

2072
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:34,880
Speaker 3: that's when for when most black pecause most black people

2073
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:38,160
Speaker 3: don't pay her ask no attention. Black women call us

2074
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 3: what you do, kill us, who you're married to, who your.

2075
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 4: Husband is, Like, just do you b boo? Don't nobody care?

2076
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 3: But you know when you come with the hairstyle and

2077
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 3: you call it a swoosh and people going, well, bits

2078
01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 3: them just regular ass braids, what are you talking about?

2079
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 4: I mean, you known for being the white the pog

2080
01:38:59,040 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 4: like that's your thing?

2081
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 2: Is you the known as the white girl that got

2082
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 2: a black woman's body, Like that's your claim to fame,

2083
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 2: the direct the situating it with their hairstyle. You know,

2084
01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 2: even the caption on her Instagram photo. I call you

2085
01:39:14,320 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 2: m I call them dug.

2086
01:39:16,360 --> 01:39:18,040
Speaker 4: Da Coco swoop.

2087
01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 2: You don't even talk like that like in that video

2088
01:39:21,360 --> 01:39:23,040
Speaker 2: just now, you just sound like you listen.

2089
01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 4: I call them the Coco swoot Okay, like you didn't

2090
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 4: talk like that. You were super duper proper right now,

2091
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 4: like we like, just let it go. Just be like

2092
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:34,720
Speaker 4: my bad. Isn't that hard. I mean, it's not like

2093
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 4: everybody gonna fucking forgive you. I get it.

2094
01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:38,360
Speaker 2: There are people that are gonna be like fuck that

2095
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,920
Speaker 2: bitch forever, but most of them already feel that way.

2096
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,200
Speaker 2: But the least, I mean, for the people that fuck

2097
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:44,760
Speaker 2: with you, the least you could do is be like, yo,

2098
01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:48,439
Speaker 2: my bad dog. I really didn't mean that as swipe

2099
01:39:48,439 --> 01:39:50,760
Speaker 2: at black people my fault.

2100
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,920
Speaker 4: You know, I won't call them. I won't say I

2101
01:39:53,960 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 4: invented this hairstyle anymore.

2102
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:58,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, nobody even care about you calling your hairstyle names. Like,

2103
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:02,599
Speaker 3: you know, most people, average person probably don't even follow you.

2104
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:05,400
Speaker 3: Like I mean, I know she has a following, but

2105
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,080
Speaker 3: you know most people only test something. Her name only

2106
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:10,760
Speaker 3: crossed their lips is because of this.

2107
01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just saying, just just take the l. Sometimes

2108
01:40:16,479 --> 01:40:18,160
Speaker 2: you gotta just take the l You're not gonna win,

2109
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,479
Speaker 2: and you definitely not gonna get everybody on that.

2110
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:24,080
Speaker 4: We just seem to love each other. Shit, nobody's falling

2111
01:40:24,120 --> 01:40:24,479
Speaker 4: for that.

2112
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:27,920
Speaker 2: Just be like, my bad I mean, I mean, unless

2113
01:40:27,920 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 2: you don't give a fuck, then just don't say nothing

2114
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 2: because you still can ride this white thing on out.

2115
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 2: Just be like, I don't give a fuck, Fuck them

2116
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,759
Speaker 2: people and move on. Most people gonna side with you anyway,

2117
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 2: you white, you know what I mean. Most people are

2118
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:40,559
Speaker 2: gonna be like, leave that woman alone.

2119
01:40:40,600 --> 01:40:42,960
Speaker 4: She didn't do nothing. What she can't get her hell done.

2120
01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:45,720
Speaker 4: I already know that's what most responses were. So just

2121
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 4: leave it at that, man, you.

2122
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:50,439
Speaker 3: Know, and just do you But you know, like I said,

2123
01:40:51,120 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 3: it's some lanes just no need to cross, and you

2124
01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:54,400
Speaker 3: could have stayed over there where you were.

2125
01:40:54,960 --> 01:40:55,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, she said.

2126
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:57,519
Speaker 2: Oh, and by the way, I name all the brave

2127
01:40:57,600 --> 01:41:01,600
Speaker 2: styles I do, even hairstyles with no braids. It's a

2128
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:05,200
Speaker 2: cute thing I do. I have many weird coco isms. Yeah,

2129
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 2: you got roasted for it, that's all, you know, especially

2130
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,080
Speaker 2: if just the first time people see you name your

2131
01:41:12,120 --> 01:41:18,000
Speaker 2: hairstyle on on Instagram. You know, you say you name

2132
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:21,040
Speaker 2: them all, but if this the first time, you know,

2133
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,240
Speaker 2: And of course Ice T came out and was talking

2134
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:27,719
Speaker 2: shit to people. Someone said he's in the sunken place

2135
01:41:27,720 --> 01:41:29,880
Speaker 2: if he thinks people are mad at Coco for wearing breads.

2136
01:41:30,720 --> 01:41:33,280
Speaker 4: Deeper bro said, what are you? I guess who.

2137
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,719
Speaker 2: I don't even know what this W word is for something?

2138
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 2: Are you talking about? You sound something I don't know.

2139
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 2: Stupid maybe l O L I honestly can't believe you

2140
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 2: motherfuckers are still talking about braids for three days.

2141
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 4: L ol, bitch kick rocks. I'm surprised you can.

2142
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 2: Read to another person who said, no one has a

2143
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 2: problem with the picture. The caption fucked it all up.

2144
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 2: If you don't get that, you're a if something. Fuck

2145
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:02,759
Speaker 2: fuck I don't know, fuck nigga. And then he replied,

2146
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:06,439
Speaker 2: bitch kick rocks, and surprise you can read llol, Lucky

2147
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 2: she didn't put Afro profiles in her head. Call him

2148
01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,439
Speaker 2: cocoa puffs. The world might come to an end l ol.

2149
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:15,400
Speaker 4: Who gives a fuck? Yeah, I mean to be honest,

2150
01:42:15,560 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 4: You to be honest. He had the best.

2151
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:21,800
Speaker 2: Response, mm hmm yep, I said it. His response was

2152
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 2: better than hers because he because he just did what

2153
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:26,559
Speaker 2: I said you should do, which is to be like

2154
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 2: fuck it rather than to sit up there try to

2155
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 2: appease everybody because you not you already did the infraction

2156
01:42:31,720 --> 01:42:33,479
Speaker 2: and nothing you say it's gonna go back like you

2157
01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 2: might as just be like fuck everybody then, because you

2158
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 2: can just ride this out your iced tea and she's cocoa,

2159
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 2: y'all can just be like, who gives a fuck?

2160
01:42:40,680 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 4: I knew y'all was gonna get mad when I did

2161
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:42,679
Speaker 4: this shit.

2162
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:44,920
Speaker 5: Yah, they're both for y'all.

2163
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:48,920
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, I ain't saying it's right, but you know,

2164
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:51,000
Speaker 4: niggas don't care.

2165
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 2: You ain't got to fool me in thinking y'all care. Uh,

2166
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 2: all right, let's do uh how much time are we doing?

2167
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:00,000
Speaker 4: Shit? One forty two already?

2168
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 5: What is the time? Goo?

2169
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:03,920
Speaker 2: I always start these shows like, man, I ain't gonna

2170
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:05,320
Speaker 2: be fucking with these niggas all night.

2171
01:43:05,320 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 5: And then that's on you, y'all. Y'all, y'all want to

2172
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 5: know why the show be two and a half three hours?

2173
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:10,519
Speaker 5: That ain't mean.

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Speaker 2: Fine, we'll end the show right now. Karen says, we

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01:43:13,000 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 2: gotta go, guys, sorry, but she don't want you to

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01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:16,800
Speaker 2: have no more show.

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Speaker 4: I was gonna play guest the race. I was gonna

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01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:23,400
Speaker 4: do some sored ratchetness, but Karen said, fuck y'all niggas,

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01:43:23,439 --> 01:43:25,559
Speaker 4: So I guess until next time.

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01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:29,000
Speaker 2: Oh oh okay, now you're shaking your head. Okay, so

2181
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 2: you don't want to be the bad guy, that's what

2182
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:30,840
Speaker 2: I thought.

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01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:34,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm letting them know. I don't control the time.

2184
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 4: Right right now that it's time for some guest star race.

2185
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,000
Speaker 4: That's right, it's guest the race time.

2186
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 5: Now that it is time for some guest star race.

2187
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:53,360
Speaker 4: That's right, it's guest the race time. That's right. It's

2188
01:43:53,400 --> 01:43:56,599
Speaker 4: time for guests the race. The number one game.

2189
01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 2: Go across all the podcasts like we read new or

2190
01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 2: play news arking from all the globe and we are

2191
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:02,120
Speaker 2: sad contests today.

2192
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:06,280
Speaker 4: Karen in the chat room to guests the raise because

2193
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:09,200
Speaker 4: I love you niggas, and we'll give you more show.

2194
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:10,639
Speaker 4: And Karen, don't give a fuck.

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01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,599
Speaker 5: Nah, I never said that, black Man.

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01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 4: You said it. We heard it, Okay, Coco, I did

2197
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:19,400
Speaker 4: not say that.

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01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 5: You did.

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01:44:21,040 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 4: We heard through the lines. We get read through the lines.

2200
01:44:24,360 --> 01:44:25,120
Speaker 5: Best stop hating me.

2201
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:31,600
Speaker 2: A young mother who suffered a minor injury during a

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01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 2: sex game died from a rare flesh eating disease when

2203
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 2: medics failed to spot the condition. What car assistant Katie

2204
01:44:39,439 --> 01:44:43,719
Speaker 2: Whittleson twenty four told doctor she had heard her wrist

2205
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 2: after agreeing to be restrained by her boyfriend in the bedroom.

2206
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:48,880
Speaker 2: She was diagnosed with a simple strain and sent home,

2207
01:44:49,040 --> 01:44:51,080
Speaker 2: but had to be rushed back to the hospital the

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01:44:51,080 --> 01:44:53,760
Speaker 2: following day with her condition worsened. The mother of one

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01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 2: from Castle Vale in Birmingham was actually suffering from the

2210
01:44:56,960 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 2: flesh eating bug necro testing facett phaycitis, and died from

2211
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:08,040
Speaker 2: the bacterial infection shortly afterwards. Katie's partner, Chef Dean Smith,

2212
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 2: told the Inquest that the couple had been living together

2213
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,439
Speaker 2: for five and a half years and that she had

2214
01:45:13,479 --> 01:45:16,960
Speaker 2: a young child. On New Year's Day this year, missus

2215
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 2: Whittleson went to work, but later seeing him a photograph

2216
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 2: of her wrisk, saying she was in a lot of

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01:45:21,160 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 2: pain and could not move it, he went to the

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01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:25,800
Speaker 2: Good She went to Good Hope Hospital in Sutton Coldfield

2219
01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,080
Speaker 2: but was told she suffered a spring and went home

2220
01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 2: with painkillers.

2221
01:45:29,120 --> 01:45:31,679
Speaker 4: The following morning, she was still in pain and developed blisters.

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01:45:31,880 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 2: She was rushed to the Heartland Hospital but suffered a

2223
01:45:34,200 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 2: heart attack in the ambulance. Wow Miss Smith told the

2224
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:40,639
Speaker 2: Inquest that his girlfriend had initially thought she had heard

2225
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:43,320
Speaker 2: her risk when she was restraineder in sex. She said,

2226
01:45:43,400 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 2: I did not remember much about it. It was not

2227
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 2: anything we've ever done before. Assistant Coroner Emma Brown explained

2228
01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: that Miss Whittleson had attended Good Hope A and E

2229
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:57,320
Speaker 2: Department before midnight, complaining to her nurse she suffered extreme

2230
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 2: pain in her left wrist. She explained that she was

2231
01:45:59,520 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 2: unable to fill in the pain were spreading up her arm.

2232
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:04,519
Speaker 2: The corner said her temperature, heart and post ray were

2233
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,960
Speaker 2: all abnormal, therefore she would have been observed every thirty minutes,

2234
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,599
Speaker 2: but despite seeing two doctors and having an X ray,

2235
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,160
Speaker 2: she was told she had a spring wrist and was discharged.

2236
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:15,600
Speaker 3: And that's why whenever you kind of go to the

2237
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 3: y'all like that they run fucking every test like that's

2238
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,160
Speaker 3: literally because they don't because you they literally set themselves

2239
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,040
Speaker 3: up for a lawsuit because they were like, why did

2240
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 3: you send her home?

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01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:26,240
Speaker 5: And then she died.

2242
01:46:27,439 --> 01:46:30,760
Speaker 2: The corner told the hearing that Miss Whittlson should have

2243
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,639
Speaker 2: been kept in the hospital undergone major surgery.

2244
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:35,960
Speaker 4: As a result, there were clear failures on both part

2245
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 4: of both of the doctors.

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01:46:36,920 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 2: She said they flaglanly ignored the policy that there was

2247
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,160
Speaker 2: for the very situation Katie found herself in her early one.

2248
01:46:43,240 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 2: The score was six and should have resulted in regular,

2249
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 2: ongoing observations and further investigations. These were not carried out.

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01:46:49,400 --> 01:46:51,599
Speaker 2: If Katie had remained in the hospital, it's clear that her.

2251
01:46:51,520 --> 01:46:52,680
Speaker 4: Death would have been avoidable.

2252
01:46:53,240 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 2: These mistakes amounted to gross failure to provide basic medical attention.

2253
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:01,280
Speaker 2: Katie's death was due to neck ti scene fast sitis,

2254
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 2: contributed to by neglect. The coroner said there could be

2255
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 2: other explanation for the initial injury she had suffered, but

2256
01:47:08,439 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 2: the most probable one was when she was restrained after

2257
01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 2: the hearing. Miss Whittlson's mother, Pat paid tribute to her

2258
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 2: beautiful daughter and said she had been devoted to helping others.

2259
01:47:18,160 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 2: Her husband, David, said the family intended to take legal

2260
01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:23,080
Speaker 2: action against the trust over the neghlagens.

2261
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 4: I'll be damn I assue you too.

2262
01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 5: I lose my family memo.

2263
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, Well guess the race Karen, oh white, Karen's

2264
01:47:32,160 --> 01:47:33,560
Speaker 2: gone with white. Let's see what the rest of you

2265
01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:35,240
Speaker 2: motherfuckers say in the chat room.

2266
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:40,040
Speaker 4: Fichad's gone wrong? White or white? Fifty shades of World

2267
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:41,200
Speaker 4: War Z White white.

2268
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 2: I don't know any black people with this white white

2269
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 2: first a killer dick, now a killer position sent home

2270
01:47:47,200 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 2: black white white. The correct answer is white, and one

2271
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:15,240
Speaker 2: person got it wrong. I don't know what they were doing. Boom,

2272
01:48:15,840 --> 01:48:21,320
Speaker 2: let's say, uh, this is not showing up screen, it is. Okay, Yeah,

2273
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:26,280
Speaker 2: she was white, y'all, real, real white, And I feel

2274
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 2: bad for her.

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01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:28,799
Speaker 4: I mean, somebody gotta take care of a kid.

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01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,800
Speaker 5: Right, So now her husband is a single father.

2277
01:48:32,000 --> 01:48:34,360
Speaker 4: Now if that's her boyfriend, I mean husband, that might

2278
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:35,800
Speaker 4: have just been a boyfriend. I don't think I read

2279
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:36,679
Speaker 4: that that I was her husband.

2280
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:40,200
Speaker 5: Oh, I know they mentioned a husband, did I.

2281
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 4: Okay, not boyfriend Dean Smith.

2282
01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 5: Okay, So she may have been married at some period

2283
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:45,120
Speaker 5: of time.

2284
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:45,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2285
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,479
Speaker 2: But she got a young kid, five year old daughter,

2286
01:48:49,360 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 2: some freaking sex play laid to death y'all.

2287
01:48:51,479 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 3: Because I know at the end you said her husband

2288
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 3: is think about president legal action probably uh her first husband,

2289
01:48:58,120 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 3: and then they probably got divorced.

2290
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 4: It up like final destination death shit.

2291
01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 3: Uh.

2292
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 4: So a fake cop was arrested for.

2293
01:49:11,240 --> 01:49:14,920
Speaker 2: While trying to pose as a real cop white and

2294
01:49:15,080 --> 01:49:18,360
Speaker 2: he's tried and he stopped in the actual Miami police officer.

2295
01:49:20,479 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 2: A security guard security guard opposed a Miami police officer

2296
01:49:24,040 --> 01:49:26,320
Speaker 2: has been arrested after attempting to pull over a real cop.

2297
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:28,840
Speaker 4: Milton Morales Perez.

2298
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:33,880
Speaker 2: Pulled up alongside Officer Kenny of Fallot as she drove

2299
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,720
Speaker 2: along Southwest seventh Street and at thirteen thousand New seven

2300
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:40,080
Speaker 2: thirty pm last Wednesday. Morales Perez had rolled down his

2301
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:42,640
Speaker 2: white Ford Mustang window and flashed a silver badge, and

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01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:47,680
Speaker 2: for that a spokeswoman for the Miami Police Department, he

2303
01:49:47,920 --> 01:49:48,639
Speaker 2: had ordered her.

2304
01:49:48,640 --> 01:49:51,759
Speaker 4: To stop using HERSELP phone to pull over. Police stopped

2305
01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 4: the car.

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01:49:52,160 --> 01:49:54,439
Speaker 2: Fallat had been driving an unmarked vehicle, but was in

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01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:58,800
Speaker 2: uniform at the time. Realizing Morales Perez wasn't a real cop,

2308
01:49:58,920 --> 01:49:59,759
Speaker 2: she called for backup.

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01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:01,960
Speaker 4: Two more officers arrived the scene to arrest him.

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01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:06,120
Speaker 2: When asked why he had been impersonating the officer and

2311
01:50:06,240 --> 01:50:10,200
Speaker 2: had a badge, the Haalel security guard said that he

2312
01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 2: had seen Filat using her cell phone while driving. He

2313
01:50:13,400 --> 01:50:16,120
Speaker 2: added that he had stopped her to add to act

2314
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 2: as it is very dangerous to be on the phone

2315
01:50:18,000 --> 01:50:21,120
Speaker 2: while driving. Morales Perez was charged with one count impersonator

2316
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 2: the police officer. I guess the races Perez I'm going

2317
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:30,840
Speaker 2: to go black Morales Perez.

2318
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:32,840
Speaker 4: Karen's going black. I took the chatroom, No.

2319
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:35,479
Speaker 5: Perez.

2320
01:50:36,160 --> 01:50:38,920
Speaker 3: Well, Nina's black and she's Perez. But I don't think

2321
01:50:39,240 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 3: I'm gotta go against Shannino. I wanta go Mexican or Latino?

2322
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 2: All right, chatroom says Latino, Latino, No, let me see

2323
01:50:47,680 --> 01:50:54,360
Speaker 2: your papers Latino Latino, top flight security at border patrol Latino, Latino, Latino, Latino, Latino.

2324
01:50:54,520 --> 01:50:58,200
Speaker 4: He thought he was a white Mexican Mexican and what

2325
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:01,880
Speaker 4: was this last? And say, uh, I'm gonna go with

2326
01:51:02,120 --> 01:51:05,439
Speaker 4: euro Cuban, not to be confused with Afro Cuban. The

2327
01:51:05,560 --> 01:51:21,840
Speaker 4: correct answer is everybody got it Latino. Yeah, he was

2328
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 4: definitely Latino. Karen, you pulled that one back from the brink.

2329
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:31,280
Speaker 2: You almost fuck that upute ye had two Latino last

2330
01:51:31,360 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 2: names and you still almost said black.

2331
01:51:33,439 --> 01:51:37,560
Speaker 4: Right, What was you thinking? Is it showing in the

2332
01:51:37,640 --> 01:51:38,080
Speaker 4: chat yet?

2333
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 5: Yes? Earlier?

2334
01:51:41,640 --> 01:51:43,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, ain't that some ship?

2335
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 2: I wonder how many other people he pulled over on

2336
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 2: some bullshit, and who knows what else he be doing

2337
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,160
Speaker 2: to people. Man, I don't trust nobody faking like the laws.

2338
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:53,719
Speaker 2: That's even worse than being the police.

2339
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:57,280
Speaker 4: Faking like the police. You could do anything to somebody, man,

2340
01:51:57,600 --> 01:51:58,760
Speaker 4: there'd be no record of it.

2341
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:00,560
Speaker 5: I mean, you can be able to record with the

2342
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,719
Speaker 5: real cops, but at least you got something.

2343
01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to the bonus round. Doubled up

2344
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:21,960
Speaker 2: on the race, double up on saying the race. That's right,

2345
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 2: double the points, double the race, and the bonus round.

2346
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:25,920
Speaker 2: The guest the race so far, caaren is actually two

2347
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 2: for two. Pulled it back from the brink to b

2348
01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 2: two for two. Let's see if you can keep it

2349
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 2: up all right. Bonus round time, Tampa Bay Times, another

2350
01:52:35,320 --> 01:52:44,559
Speaker 2: Florida store, uh Largo, Panella's County share Bob Gultieri fired

2351
01:52:44,640 --> 01:52:47,439
Speaker 2: a patroled deputy on Thursday after a photo service that

2352
01:52:47,520 --> 01:52:52,000
Speaker 2: shows him boasting about almost about almost shooting someone. The photo,

2353
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:56,080
Speaker 2: posted Sunday on the visual messaging mapp Snapchat, shows Deputy

2354
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 2: Austin Kallis twenty three, with the caption nothing like almost

2355
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,200
Speaker 2: shooting someone to set your head right, Lol, God, I

2356
01:53:03,400 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 2: gate people with knives. I believe you meant to spell

2357
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:10,759
Speaker 2: hate instead of gate. Gugle Terry said Thursday. The photo

2358
01:53:10,880 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 2: raises doubts about Callus's mindset on the job. If you

2359
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:15,720
Speaker 2: make that kind of statement, you're not going to be

2360
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:18,000
Speaker 2: employed here as a deputy share because it causing the

2361
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:20,720
Speaker 2: question your thoughts and your motives and certainly leads a

2362
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:22,800
Speaker 2: deputy in the agency in a very bad situation. If

2363
01:53:22,840 --> 01:53:26,200
Speaker 2: something would have happened in the future, Bingo, the FIR

2364
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:29,160
Speaker 2: remarked the second time this week. The questionable behavior boy

2365
01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:32,519
Speaker 2: Panella's deputy had come to light. On Tuesday, the Tampa

2366
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:36,280
Speaker 2: Bay Times reported that Sean Pappas, a former Training Division corporal,

2367
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:39,240
Speaker 2: resigned from the agency in February after investigators found a

2368
01:53:39,320 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 2: trove of racist, sexist, and pornographic images on his phone.

2369
01:53:42,720 --> 01:53:45,439
Speaker 2: The incident Callous referred to when the photo occurred Sunday morning.

2370
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:47,960
Speaker 2: According to a report, Callous reponded to a domestic violence

2371
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:49,200
Speaker 2: call at a home in Dundon.

2372
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:50,799
Speaker 4: The dispatcher know the fight.

2373
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:52,599
Speaker 2: On that a woman involved in the call had armed

2374
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:54,639
Speaker 2: herself with a knife and was alone in the garage

2375
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 2: when callus arride. A thirty six year old man who

2376
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 2: called the shrif's office told him another man fifty five

2377
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:01,840
Speaker 2: was fighting with his ex oh with his twenty six

2378
01:54:01,960 --> 01:54:03,800
Speaker 2: year old girlfriend because she had lost the keys and

2379
01:54:03,880 --> 01:54:06,160
Speaker 2: cell phone On his way out of the house, the

2380
01:54:06,240 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 2: call Us said he heard objects being thrown around the

2381
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:11,160
Speaker 2: room and thought they were pushing each other. Callus wrote

2382
01:54:11,160 --> 01:54:12,559
Speaker 2: in the report that he told the woman to come

2383
01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 2: outside multiple times in no avail. A backup debuty arrived

2384
01:54:15,680 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 2: and they found a woman at the garage door entrance.

2385
01:54:17,600 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 2: The debuties ordered her inside the gunpoint and then told

2386
01:54:20,240 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 2: her boyfriend to come.

2387
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:21,880
Speaker 4: Out of the house.

2388
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,439
Speaker 2: The woman told debutie she never earned herself with a knife,

2389
01:54:24,479 --> 01:54:27,400
Speaker 2: and deputies didn't find weapons on either one. Callus didn't

2390
01:54:27,439 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 2: arrest anyone and closed out the car on the same

2391
01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:33,120
Speaker 2: day he posted the snapchat photo. The Sheriff's office first

2392
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:35,240
Speaker 2: became aware of it on Tuesday when a high school

2393
01:54:35,240 --> 01:54:37,440
Speaker 2: friend of Callus reported that she was concerned about some

2394
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 2: Snapchat photos he posted of himself both in and out

2395
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:43,560
Speaker 2: of uniform. According to the investigative, foul so who knows

2396
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:46,520
Speaker 2: what other stuff we didn't see. She also told the

2397
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:48,240
Speaker 2: agency that Callous and his girlfriend the two and a

2398
01:54:48,240 --> 01:54:50,680
Speaker 2: half years had broken up because she was cheating on him,

2399
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 2: and that Callus was.

2400
01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 4: Drinking heavily, so she might have saved that woman's life.

2401
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,800
Speaker 2: Around the same time, Florida Department of Law Enforcement analysts

2402
01:54:58,240 --> 01:55:00,400
Speaker 2: noticed the photo circulating on social media, along with the

2403
01:55:00,440 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 2: comments that's had anti law enforcement sentiment, According to an

2404
01:55:04,320 --> 01:55:07,879
Speaker 2: email from FDL to Tampa Bay area law enforcement agencies,

2405
01:55:08,240 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 2: as the photo made the rounds, gul Terry said Callus

2406
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:13,920
Speaker 2: contacted Sheriff's office lawyers to ask for legal advice on

2407
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 2: how to take action against a woman who reported him.

2408
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 4: Basically, he was in cover yourself mode. The sheriff said.

2409
01:55:21,240 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 2: He was placed Wednesday on the administrative leave and turn

2410
01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:26,640
Speaker 2: On investigators spoke on several occasions with Kyllus, who confirmed

2411
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,320
Speaker 2: that his friend what his friends said about.

2412
01:55:28,120 --> 01:55:30,080
Speaker 4: His relationship was said he didn't drink the excess.

2413
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 2: They offered him help through the employee Assistance program, and

2414
01:55:33,000 --> 01:55:36,520
Speaker 2: he declined. Callus could not be reached for comment Thursday.

2415
01:55:37,160 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 2: Leading up to his hiring in November, gul Terry said

2416
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:42,360
Speaker 2: there was nothing of a concern in his psychological exam,

2417
01:55:42,760 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 2: polygraph test, or background check. He was still under what

2418
01:55:46,600 --> 01:55:49,600
Speaker 2: is typically a year long probation during which employees are

2419
01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:52,760
Speaker 2: not afforded the same and disciplinary process as permanent employees,

2420
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:55,720
Speaker 2: but gol Terry said he doesn't imagine that would have

2421
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,440
Speaker 2: made much of a difference. Kyllis, who patrolled North Penella's County,

2422
01:55:58,520 --> 01:56:01,400
Speaker 2: never said anything to mitigate going Terry's concerned about the photo,

2423
01:56:01,880 --> 01:56:05,440
Speaker 2: which the sheriff said he interpreted as if you shoot someone,

2424
01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 2: that's gonna make you feel better.

2425
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 4: That's what it said.

2426
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:11,840
Speaker 2: The sheriff said that other possible interpretations of the photo,

2427
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 2: but several factors went into his decision to terminate Callous,

2428
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 2: his lack of an explanation, the fact that he went

2429
01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:19,560
Speaker 2: to an agency lawyers for situation inappropriate for their help,

2430
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:23,720
Speaker 2: and lol in the caption, which signaled that to Gil

2431
01:56:23,760 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 2: Terry that it wasn't a sobeern revelation. Is not my

2432
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,440
Speaker 2: role to provide people with possible excuses for what happens

2433
01:56:29,440 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 2: to be very serious misconduct, he said, and to give

2434
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 2: them a reason not to be held accountable for it.

2435
01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:40,600
Speaker 2: Guess the race of this officer, Austin callis white? Cam's

2436
01:56:40,640 --> 01:56:41,120
Speaker 2: going with white?

2437
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 4: Let me check the chat room.

2438
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 2: See what you guys think now, It just depends where

2439
01:56:45,600 --> 01:56:47,120
Speaker 2: you're moving floid No, okay, white?

2440
01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:47,960
Speaker 4: He is white?

2441
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 2: Wanted to join the roster of cops who got away

2442
01:56:50,520 --> 01:56:54,280
Speaker 2: with murdered White. His woman got the co coo swoop white.

2443
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 2: Ha got in trouble because see he didn't kill white

2444
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:00,800
Speaker 2: super open about using the force white.

2445
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:03,400
Speaker 4: White. He was afraid for his life. White white you

2446
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 4: mcwhite is is in white?

2447
01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:05,160
Speaker 5: Uh?

2448
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:09,160
Speaker 4: This is our placeboy is white? The correct essa is white.

2449
01:57:23,320 --> 01:57:27,160
Speaker 4: Nobody missed that one, and he was white as fuck.

2450
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2451
01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 2: He also took the picture like it was one of

2452
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:33,680
Speaker 2: those like dating app pictures or something, you know, like

2453
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 2: he was trying to be a little sexy with it

2454
01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:36,000
Speaker 2: or something.

2455
01:57:36,200 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 5: Oh shit, you.

2456
01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:39,720
Speaker 4: See it's showing up like look at that picture. Don't

2457
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:42,160
Speaker 4: look like he got them come here the eyes right.

2458
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 5: He got a little phrase you can do on snapchat.

2459
01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 2: Hey girl, let me commit a homicide and feel better

2460
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:49,720
Speaker 2: about myself.

2461
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:54,120
Speaker 4: Oh lord, I don't do that. I like to shoot

2462
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:55,840
Speaker 4: a shot and then shoot a shot up in you.

2463
01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:00,680
Speaker 4: Oh no, that's what I'm meant to people in there

2464
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:01,640
Speaker 4: killing that pussy.

2465
01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 5: Oh no, that's not the same.

2466
01:58:03,360 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 4: No, no, uh all right.

2467
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:31,800
Speaker 2: Uh, let's do a sword ratching this guys. A man

2468
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:35,040
Speaker 2: attacked his mother's boyfriend with a Samurai sword.

2469
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:35,920
Speaker 3: Oh no.

2470
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:38,880
Speaker 2: A mother and her son were both arrested late Tuesday

2471
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:41,880
Speaker 2: after the Tuesday night after the sun attacked his mother's

2472
01:58:41,920 --> 01:58:44,600
Speaker 2: boyfriend with what the police say was a Samurai sword.

2473
01:58:44,920 --> 01:58:47,600
Speaker 2: Police say Dennis Anthony Burgess, twenty nine, was arguing with

2474
01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 2: his mother's boyfriend. Burgess w was towards the man with

2475
01:58:50,200 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 2: a sem sword, striking the man several times. Police say

2476
01:58:52,840 --> 01:58:54,680
Speaker 2: that Burgess raised the sword over his hand like a bab,

2477
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:56,800
Speaker 2: over his head like a baseball bat, and told the

2478
01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:58,880
Speaker 2: boyfriend that he was gonna cut his head off. The

2479
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,280
Speaker 2: report says the spike be hit multiple times, the man

2480
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 2: was not hurt.

2481
01:59:02,120 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 4: How's that possible?

2482
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:07,120
Speaker 2: Teresa and Heartsell must have been a reverse place, so

2483
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. Forty eight grabbed the sword from her

2484
01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:11,720
Speaker 2: son and hit him several times, cutting her finger.

2485
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 4: So everybody was hitting each other. He learned it from you?

2486
01:59:15,800 --> 01:59:18,000
Speaker 4: You okay? Heart Selling.

2487
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 2: Burdens were both charged with assault with a daily weapon.

2488
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:25,320
Speaker 2: Both were given five hundred dollars bond. Mm hmm, White,

2489
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 2: I don't have any pictures that that shit happened in Charlotte?

2490
01:59:28,720 --> 01:59:30,560
Speaker 4: Do was wbt B that covered that?

2491
01:59:31,960 --> 01:59:35,600
Speaker 2: M h all right, man, Tomorrow's seven guys, are y'all

2492
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 2: ready to talk about it? Are you ready to be

2493
01:59:39,480 --> 01:59:42,520
Speaker 2: about it? Because we're gonna have miss smart in the house.

2494
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:44,919
Speaker 2: Me and Karen gonna be in the house.

2495
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:54,560
Speaker 4: And it's gonna be on Bronze time, y'all. All right,

2496
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:57,640
Speaker 4: we'll talk to y'all tomorrow. Until then, I love you.

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01:59:57,880 --> 01:59:59,120
Speaker 5: I love you too, Nah,