1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Hey, folks. It is Thursday, September the twenty fifth, and 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: the question being asked in court today is it prostitution 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: if you paid to watch two other people have sex. 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ and Rose. 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: This is where we are. Diddy has not been in 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: that court room since his conviction in July. He was 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: in there today making an argument for why his conviction 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: should be thrown out and key to it, what exactly 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: is prostitution? 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: Now, I'm curious about this concept. Did the lawyers get 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 2: into this the way they did today in this hearing 12 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: during trial? Are they trying a new tactic out so 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: to speak, to undo the convictions that did go down. 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,520 Speaker 1: Part of the argument is he was not convicted of 15 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,240 Speaker 1: the harsher countclose other three harsh counts. That means that 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: the jury doesn't think he was guilty of that stuff. 17 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: It means these chargers wouldn't even exist. If he's not 18 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: guilty of that stuff, these charges shouldn't even be here. 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: That's one of the arguments that they are making. So 20 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: they tried to make the case during the trial through 21 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: witness testimony and whatnot. Here is a case where now 22 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: they are putting it on paper in emotion, and today 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: they got in court. So to get you caught up, folks, Yes, 24 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: Sean Diddy Combs was in court today. He did have 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: a hearing that wrapped up a little while ago as 26 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 1: of this recording, but it went about ninety minutes and 27 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: his lawyers and the prosecution were making an argument. Their 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: motion is that they think his convictions for transportation to 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,199 Speaker 1: engage in prostitution should be thrown out, and they've asked 30 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: the judge to do so. We are on standby as 31 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: we sit here, Robes. He was very vague about when 32 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: we were going to hear. 33 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: From you, did he say? Shortly? A decision very shortly, 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 2: and it has to be very surely. We don't know 35 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: if that means within thirty minutes, a couple hours tomorrow, 36 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 2: but it has to be within a certain amount of 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: time because his sentencing hearing is set exactly a week 38 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 2: from today, where we will find out if this doesn't work, 39 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 2: If this option doesn't work for Diddy, just how long 40 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: will he have to serve behind bars? So, yes, it's timely, indeed, 41 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: and yeah, very shortly is tough to nail down. 42 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be today, it could be overnight tomorrow 43 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: and we don't know. But if we hear from this judge, 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,240 Speaker 1: I mean, it's okay. You've read more about the legal 45 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: experts than I have, and most of them are saying 46 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: not a chance in hell right correct. 47 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: Everyone says this is a hail Mary is how it's 48 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 2: being described, and if you're a football fan, you know 49 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: exactly what that means. But it's that last past to 50 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: see if you can suddenly score a touchdown when no 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: one was expecting you to. Everyone thought you were gonna lose, 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 2: and suddenly bam. 53 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: It's unlikely, but sometimes it works. 54 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: And the reason why everyone says it's so unlikely is 55 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: because they're looking at this judge's past behavior, his past decisions, 56 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: and they all have. He has stated very clearly that 57 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: he believes that Shawan Didtycombs is a violent man, is 58 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 2: a dangerous man, and that is why he denied him bail, 59 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: and he is been very consistent in making those types 60 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 2: of statements and the decisions that follow. 61 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: We've lost how many times the count of how many 62 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: times they have tried to get this man out of jail. 63 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: They have come up with, we will do anything you want, judge, 64 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: including the fifty million, put any security anything you want. 65 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: Every time he has said we cannot guarantee, based on 66 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: his behavior that he is not a threat to society 67 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: or to people in his world. 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: And we made the comment the last time we did 69 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: a full podcast on this when he was trying to 70 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: get bail waiting for the sentencing date next week? Didn't 71 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: they use this same argument for why so the reason 72 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 2: why they thought he should be allowed out on bail, 73 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: I feel like sounds a little similar to why now 74 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: they believe his conviction should be tossed out because they're 75 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 2: talking about the Man Act and that that is the 76 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: reason why he was convicted, and it was unfair. It's 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: a misuse of the law to prosecute him under these charges. 78 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: Say, in modern times now this has mainly been used 79 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: for people who are benefiting from the prostitution, benefiting financially, 80 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: in other words, a pimp for lack of a better term. 81 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: So why is it this guy should he be going 82 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: to prison for years for prostitution He didn't benefit from financially, 83 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: and he also did not participate physically. He didn't have 84 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: sex with anybody. He gave money to correct. 85 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: The other thing that's so interesting in what we heard today. 86 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 2: So we've been hearing a lot about the First Amendment. Right, 87 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: We've been hearing a lot about the First Amendment when 88 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: it comes to Charlie Kirk, when it comes to Jimmy Kimmel. 89 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: The First Amendment has come up now in this argument 90 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 2: to set Ditty free because they say that these videos 91 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 2: that he made were basically amateur porn videos and that 92 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: they were his expressive content. So this is a violation 93 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: of his First Amendment rights to basically say he wasn't 94 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 2: allowed it is illegal for him to making these videos 95 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,799 Speaker 2: of people he paid to have sex. 96 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: I am you know, I'm I'm glad to see the 97 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: First Amendment having its moment where. 98 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: It's been a hell of a week for the First Amendment. 99 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: We're discussing it quite a bit late night comics and 100 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: medium moguls who are possibly going to prison for a 101 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 1: prostitution is what we're dealing with. It's fascinating to hear 102 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: that the law is fascinating. But yes, to think that 103 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: the argument for did he not going to prison is 104 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: that it could possibly be a violation of his First 105 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 1: Amendment right, that is amazing. 106 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: I feel like that's a bit of a stretch for me. 107 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 2: But you know what, I wasn't in a hearing to 108 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: hear all the details. And these are the most brilliant 109 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: lawyers that money can buy, and they'd certainly proven to 110 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 2: be that. But that was a that was a my 111 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 2: eyebrows raised a little bit when I was reading about that. 112 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: But the judge, I mean, there were a lot of 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: questions he gave, like several hypotheticals about prostitution today. Here 114 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: you go. This is when he was taking on the prosecutors. 115 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: The judge asked them, so, wait a minute, what if 116 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: a porn producer hires a couple actors, flies them in 117 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: and then films them having sex and they get paid, 118 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: are they also violators of the Man Act? Now? The 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: response from the prosecutor was, well, that's a totally different 120 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: set of circumstances. It's different. But that is essentially what 121 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: the defense is saying, Yeah, he paid some people to 122 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: come perform, and they perform their duty. 123 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: For his personal amateur porn collection. 124 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: Yes, to be watched later. That is kind of a 125 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: simple A how about this? A legal simpleton like me 126 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: can make sense of that argument the way he put it. 127 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: I can too, because look, we have said this time 128 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 2: and time again following this trial so closely that if 129 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 2: they had just or if whoever wanted to bring the 130 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: charges had filed charges against him for domestic assault, domestic battery, 131 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: these charges would have stuck. They would have made sense. 132 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: He admitted to them. What they decided to do was 133 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: go for these big charges with these longer prison sentences, 134 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,040 Speaker 2: and now they're having to explain their way out of it, 135 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: and there is some it makes sense that there is 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: some legal potential legal loopholes for the defense to poke 137 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: holes in at least and to say, hey, they're trying 138 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 2: to say all this. But in a sense, all he 139 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: was doing was sexually gratifying himself by making videos of 140 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: other people who were having sex together. He wasn't involved, 141 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: but he was watching, he was recording. He set it 142 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: up like a movie set, I mean, he was producing it. 143 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: He wanted a lot of baby oil, he wanted he 144 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: had very specific needs that he wanted for things to 145 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: look a certain way, to be a certain way. 146 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: That was part of the argument. He stayed clearly, he 147 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: was trying to film something and there was a performance. 148 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: This was role playaging something. God's the argument, and in 149 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: doing so he had every right to do so, and 150 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: if you want to put him in prison for it, 151 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: it's a violation of his First Amendment rights he has 152 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 1: protected under the Constitution to make freak off videos. Guys, 153 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: is a good country. It's an amazing country when you 154 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: think about that. Yeah, aside from all the other stuff 155 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about, we're not talking about the violence here 156 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: and in all of. 157 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 2: This, because that's not what the charges are, not what 158 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 2: the convictions were. 159 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: On, not what we're talking about. But they want to 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: make the argument that yes, he was only they might 161 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: be lesser charges, but they are aggravating circumstances that we 162 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: all know about, and that is what the judge has 163 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: signals he's going to take into account. 164 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: And Babe, we were having this conversation earlier because I 165 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: was looking at several news reports that were basically saying 166 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 2: that in this hearing today, the defense is setting up 167 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: their arguments for the sentencing that they're asking for next week. 168 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 2: So all of this will be taken into account. Even 169 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 2: if the judge decides, and we expect him to decide 170 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 2: not to give Diddy at least, or to throw out 171 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: the charges, or even to give him a new trial 172 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: still what we heard today in court will likely be 173 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: applied towards his sentencing. 174 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: Again, would you say, the best legal team in the country, 175 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: they know what they're doing. Even if we lose this, 176 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: it's going to help us win or lessen what happens 177 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: next week. So next week, I mean, this is sweetheart. 178 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: This is a huge divergence in what they're asking for 179 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: in terms of his prison time. The defense is asking 180 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: for as little as possible. Fourteen months, he's served thirteen already, 181 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: homeboy be out, maybe even by Halloween. 182 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 2: I think they said, with credit for time served or 183 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: for good behavior, sorry good behavior that actually he could 184 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: walk out that day. 185 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: Potentially good behavior. It counts right. It's cutting a little up. 186 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:43,559 Speaker 2: And they went into long discussions about how great he's been, 187 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 2: how stellar of an inmate he's been, how he's setting 188 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: up these classes for inmates to learn how to be 189 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 2: businessmen and how to do good and be better and 190 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: make their own money when they get out of prison. 191 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: So they were showing what he's done in prison, what 192 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 2: he's done behind bars, not just good behavior, but he's 193 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 2: been a leader in all the right ways behind bars. 194 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 1: All that stuff was important and doesn't make you remember 195 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: the Menindez brothers who were denied right getting out, and 196 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: so much came up about their conduct in prison. Everybody was, Oh, 197 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: they've been model prisoners. 198 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: Turns out they weren't. 199 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Parobo, you did this, you did all that 200 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: little stuff matters, And if it's true that he has 201 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: been a model prisoner, the judge may very well and 202 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: can take that into account. Good job. Again, this is 203 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: part of the legal strategy as well. Whoever his lawyers 204 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: were from day one. They say, Yep, you're going to 205 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: jail today. You need to behave and be the best 206 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: you can every single day because it's going to matter 207 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: down the road. 208 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 2: Yes, and here we are now, and if you do 209 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: have someone planning ahead, I mean, that does make a 210 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: huge difference in terms of how the judge is going 211 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 2: to view how long you have to continue behind bars 212 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 2: at this point. So, yes, they want fourteen months, which 213 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: would essentially mean he would walk next week, give or 214 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 2: take a few weeks or so. But the defense initially sorry, 215 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: the prosecution initially said they wanted five to six years. 216 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 2: But now they're being coy about it. We don't know. 217 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 2: They haven't actually filed the paperwork to say exactly how 218 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: much longer they'd like him to serve, but it has 219 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: been rumored and I've seen multiple reports that the prosecutors 220 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 2: are going to ask for even longer, that they want 221 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 2: an even longer sentence than the five to six years 222 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: that they had initially discussed a couple months ago. There 223 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 2: now it seems as though they may ask for even more. 224 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:28,079 Speaker 1: What is about to happen rogues. All of this, folks, 225 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: right now is on the table. He could be he 226 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: could have those convictions tossed as at any moment and 227 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: get out of prison. He could have those convictions stand 228 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: but still next week be sentenced and still walk right 229 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: out of prison. Or he could be sentenced and be 230 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 1: in jail for the next seven years. 231 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: Or he could also get a new trial. 232 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they're asking for as well. 233 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 2: So there are four potential outcasts. 234 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: But we will know very shortly. But we do want 235 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 1: to tell you, folks, stay here. We're going to take 236 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 1: a beat, but we want you to hear a little 237 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:12,479 Speaker 1: color from the courtroom today and also what Diddy allegedly 238 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: said to his family about his future. 239 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 2: And welcome back to this edition of Amy and TJ, 240 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: where we are talking about Sean Dittycomb's hearing today in court, 241 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: and yes, we talked about what's at stake. We know 242 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 2: what the defense is asking for. We're waiting for the 243 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: judge who could come out at any moment now and 244 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: tell us his decision and what's on the table. Will 245 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: they throw out the charges against him, will they give 246 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: him a new trial? If neither one of those things 247 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 2: goes forward, then we have sentencing next week. So either way, 248 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,680 Speaker 2: we're going to get some big developments here today, within 249 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 2: the next couple of hours, maybe tomorrow, and certainly next week. 250 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: But what happened today, we haven't seen Didty in three months, 251 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: and it was a big deal to see him come 252 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: out in court today with a big smile. He was 253 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: described as having a big smile on his face when 254 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: he walked into that courtroom this morning. 255 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: This was a big day. He knows this is wrapping 256 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: up and he is going to know his fate. I mean, 257 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: the the ups and downs of this. I mean, look, 258 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: nobody's looking at him and thinking he is a victim 259 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,440 Speaker 1: or feel sorry for him, and I understand that, but 260 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: you remember the day the verdicts were read. That was 261 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: a day he could have found out he was going 262 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: to possibly go away for life. But the news he 263 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: heard was so good with the two convictions. Remember he 264 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: dropped to his knees. Yes, thank you Jesus, all these things. 265 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: And then they thought he might get out of jail 266 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: that day. They did big no, so he had to stay. 267 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: That's a disappointment. So now here he is again. With 268 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: all these options. He really could be out of there 269 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: in no time, or he might have another five, six, 270 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: seven years. 271 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 2: But he seemed I mean maybe he you know, I'm 272 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: sure you have a lot of time to work on 273 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 2: your mental health and to work on your spiritual health. 274 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 2: And so he seemed to be very positive, not just smiling, 275 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: but waving to his family and friends. He didn't speak 276 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 2: today during the hearing, but he was blowing kisses to 277 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: his family. At the end, he told his mother how 278 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: beautiful she looked today. And he did have some final 279 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: parting words for the family and friends who came out 280 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: to see him. 281 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: And this is looks what the reporters in the room 282 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: say that he did say to his family, quote, thank 283 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: you all for coming. I love you all so much. 284 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: Every hour, every day is me getting closer to going home. 285 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: I've got some big plans for us, and that is 286 00:14:42,920 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: from the reporters in the room. What he said to 287 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: his family as he was exiting. I guess so what 288 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: that means. That's curious, But he I think sick. Yeah, 289 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: six kids that were in the court today. He had 290 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: a big showing of family today. 291 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: And it's interesting because that is an extreme positive way 292 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 2: and a positive message to his family, a positive way 293 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: to phrase what he's looking at and what his future 294 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: may look like. But you'd think his lawyers would be 295 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 2: giving him some indication as to what they think might happen. 296 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: You'd think they'd give him some level of expectation. Maybe 297 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 2: they'd tell him we have no idea. I mean, I'm 298 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 2: curious what they're saying to him to keep him or 299 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 2: at least to help give him some hope at this point. 300 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: Manage expectations or me, I want you to tell me 301 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: the worst case scenario. Don't give me too much hope 302 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: and this thing. But why wouldn't he I mean, he's 303 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: gotten this far and by all accounts, this was a 304 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: victory for his defense team. To go from facing life 305 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: to possibly getting out in a little over a year 306 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: of serving time after all of this is pretty remarkable. 307 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: So we are on stand by. We'll stay on stand by. 308 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: Look up, the judge comes out and says something will 309 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: hop back on as necessary. We want to give you 310 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: this update, and we haven't done a Diddy update, I know, 311 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: in a while. Right back up, right, this was so 312 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: much of our lives from a month and a half 313 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: it felt like. But now this is wrapping up for real. 314 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: But this is going to be huge either way, and 315 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: we'll find out more about what Diddy's fate looks like. 316 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 2: And look after he said I'm coming every day, every 317 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 2: hour and coming closer to home. He said, don't worry 318 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: about nothing, no matter what it is, I'm going to 319 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 2: deal with whatever it is. So that gives you a 320 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 2: sense of his state of mind, that he is at 321 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 2: a place of acceptance, hopeful acceptance is what it sounded 322 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 2: like to me today from Sean Ditty Cums. 323 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: All right, well, folks, we always appreciate you hanging with 324 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: us for my dear Amy Robot. I'm TJ. Holmes. We'll 325 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: talk to y'all soon.