1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is working on its mechanics swift. 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: Tom House, Welcome back to another edition of the Around 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: am joining in a stadium filled with heroes Kevin Patra 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:25,959 Speaker 1: Connor or Greg Rosenthal, and so I couldn't even do 6 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: it right. It's just so different than how we usually 7 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: do it. I'm Dan, an We're already screwing up this thing. 8 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: The NFL Scouting Combine is set uh to begin. In fact, 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: it has right the early stages off the rails. Alright. Yeah, 10 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: there's been like fifty press conferences, but no worries, you know, 11 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean the on field work, that beautiful Lucas Oil 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 1: Stadium that has not started yet. There's been some bench 13 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: presses and whatnot. I thought when you were gonna say, 14 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: and you're gonna talk about the other special guest coming 15 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: up this show? When is a historic addition that you 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast, sponsored of course by Mr Flames 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Economics class in the Hague, bon Netherlands. Because not only 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: do we have the four horsemen here, we have from 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: the studio in Culver City, we have Chris Westling and 20 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler who will jump jump in a little bit 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: later in the show, and then after a West and 22 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: Cess the Kissing Cousins, we will have land Zerline of 23 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. One of the draft gurus, a man 24 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: Connor Or, that we we had a drink with at 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: the Schuyler's Bar at the Weston yesterday. He told us 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: some great stories about Houston and New Orleans. Uh. You 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: enjoyed those stories, didn't you, Connor? Yeah? They were my favorite, 28 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: kinder making it clear he remembers nothing about this person 29 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: in the evening. Connor, by the way, again, I think 30 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: we talked about this last year. This is Connor's favorite 31 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: place in the world. If if Sydney back in l A, 32 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: it's Disneyland, for Connor, it's Indianapolis. And I just want 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: to share a little to an actual bit of dialogue. 34 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: When I was walking today from the press conferences, which 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to all the coaches and executives. Uh too. 36 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: I think we were going to get lunch. Connor said 37 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: to me, you know one of the places this is 38 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: gonna sound crazy, but one of my favorite places to 39 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: eat here in Indianapolis is that a Native American museum. Uh. Cafeteria. 40 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: They have great chili and cornbread. A real thing, you said, 41 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: My knowledge of din know that my knowledge of this 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: town runs deeper than than anything. You know. You're just there, 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, being a tourist and happened to stop at 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 1: the cafeteria on the way out. Wanted some chili, and 45 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 1: you know, everything ended up working out and we got yeah, 46 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: and we and Patrick and Patra also was with us. 47 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: At Connor showed again. We went to Patsy's Is that 48 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: the name of the place, The pizza place na Napolis? 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: Excuse me. We went to, of course, the the famous 50 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: cigar bar. These are things that we we checked the 51 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: box every time we come here. And then tonight st 52 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: Almos we get a nice steak, a little us from 53 00:02:58,280 --> 00:02:59,919 Speaker 1: cocktail and the way we go might have a couple 54 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: of ranks too. I'm gonna miss, Yeah, you're gonna miss Indianapolis. 55 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: Like I'm already. Like you, you know, when you arrive 56 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: on vacation, you're like it's already, it's almost over. Like 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: the second that I got here, I was like, I'm 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: not gonna get to be here very long. Like it's 59 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: there's another true Indianapolis story with Connor or is that 60 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: this was before his time at NFL Media, but easy, young, 61 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: hungry journal looking for work and there was a job 62 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: offer that came his way to be a reporter in Cincinnati, 63 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: I believe. And one of the pitches you made to 64 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: here then girlfriend, now fiance and now wife is honey, 65 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: it's an only only an hour drive from Indianapolis. It's 66 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: a heck of a pitch. And she was just like, well, 67 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: why what what does that? How does that make it 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: any better? You know, doesn't make it worse? Yeah, it 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: didn't like, it didn't seal the deal apparent you know, 70 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: Well everything ended up working out. It did, so you 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: get this vacation every year. So a lot to get 72 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: to today. Uh, Like I said, the four of us, 73 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 1: we'll talk for a bit, then we'll get West and 74 00:03:56,440 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: Cess then Lancer Line and uh, let's get to it 75 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: because law sid is back in l A and we're 76 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: not gonna Are you there, Sidney, Can you talk to us? Yeah? 77 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: I can? Well? Cool, how are you? I'm great? There's 78 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: all sorts of buttons and dud outs to make this possible. 79 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: But we're doing we're doing good. We're going We're great. 80 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: New money is on Mount Rushmore for a reason. Um, 81 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: Mark Brady, who is the head podcast PUBA, knows Sydney's talents. Well, 82 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: this is one of our greatest challenge, a technical masterpiece 83 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,279 Speaker 1: she's gonna put together. I'm gonna put the pressure on, 84 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: you said, because I believe thank you, Thank you for 85 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: that means a lot. All right, all right, let's get 86 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: into not the news. There's a lot to get to, 87 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: but we want the first thing. We want to share 88 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: what we saw in these last two days. We all 89 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: got to Indie at some point on Tuesday, I believe 90 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 1: they had the press conferences for the coaches and executives, 91 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: uh in a in a new area space at the 92 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: convention center here, um on Wednesday and Thursday, will be 93 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: some more tomorrow Friday. UM, So Greg, why don't we 94 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: start with you kind of what was maybe your big takeaway, 95 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: the big news what's cooking out here in Indianapolis combine week. Well, 96 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into a quarterback talk a little bit 97 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: later with with you know, West and Mark. But I 98 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: think that's probably the headlines out of here, just that 99 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: the feeling after a few days here and it might 100 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: be might be Polo, it might be trying to put 101 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: yourself in a certain position in terms of leverages, that 102 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 1: maybe these quarterbacks aren't really gonna change teams as much 103 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,119 Speaker 1: as we think, or at least that's how the teams 104 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: are trying to position. And you know, coaches and gms 105 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: when they're at the podiums, they're not going to give 106 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:43,919 Speaker 1: away too too much. But they're holding their cards close 107 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: to the vest, and I think teams like Buffalo, for instance, 108 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: are realizing, well, maybe we don't have anything better behind 109 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: door number two. Maybe we're gonna have to keep Tyrod Taylor. 110 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: And even if, even though we don't really see them 111 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: as a franchise quarterback, because if we did, we would 112 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 1: just say it, we would just say we're we'd love 113 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: to keep them. They just are assuming that a week 114 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: from now they're not going to do any better than 115 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, so they might have to keep There's so 116 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: much hot air in the city right now. I'm shocked. 117 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: It's not like n eight degrees outside. They all just 118 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: talk and say nothing. I listened to Sean McVeigh for 119 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes today and it was like going to coach 120 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: speak university. It was literally he said nothing for fifteen minutes. 121 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: But he's good. He like looks the reporters always calls 122 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: the reporter by his first name. Um, you know, it's 123 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: very excited. He just didn't there's no substance to well, 124 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: you could read between the lines and some things. I mean, 125 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: like you bring up Kenny Britt, for instance, and they're like, 126 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna hit free agency. You know, we're not sure 127 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: if he fits this system or now it's like we 128 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: have no use for Kenny Britt. Uh. Yeah, there's little 129 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,679 Speaker 1: things you can you can look into it. I thought 130 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: the news and this came, Uh Adams chapter of ESPN. 131 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: He's pounding the table with this his tweet from yesterday. 132 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: In a move that will have a ripple effect on 133 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: all QB needy teams, Patriots are not expected to trade 134 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: or back Jimmy Garoppolo, per league sources. Uh. He came 135 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: out again and reported something similar, if not stronger today. Uh, 136 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: you have, you know other reports. Jeff how from the 137 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 1: Boston Herald reported or said, you know you're hearing these reports. 138 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: But let's not pretend the Patriots are going to hang 139 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: up the phone with team's call. But that is this 140 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: is a major story right now where Garoppolo lands do 141 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: we believe what's going on right now that he might 142 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: be off the market? Does it matter though? I mean 143 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: like when I when I say that by this is 144 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: like Bill Belichick now has this lifetime appointment, and so 145 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: if he keeps him, it's gonna be like classic Bill 146 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: holding on to great players. And then if he trades him, 147 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: it's like classic Bill getting value for departing talent. And 148 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: either way he's not going to be nearly as good 149 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: as he was in this Patriots system. He could probably 150 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: have a serviceable career and and and let's move on. Well, 151 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: I I've said along the Garoppolo his deadline is the draft. 152 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: I never thought he was in play in March. So 153 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: to me, hearing that they're not going to trade him now, like, 154 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: let's see, let's see what the price could be in April. 155 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: In the middle of April, let's see who still needs 156 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback then, Like, I think he's kind of last 157 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 1: in line, behind Glennon and eventually Cutler and Romo and 158 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: all of those guys like Garoppolos, maybe the last guy 159 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: to to get appointed to a team. And if a 160 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: team goes crazy and offers him a couple of high picks. 161 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: Why not? But would it chuck you that much if 162 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: he did stay there? I think. I mean, Brady's will 163 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: get old at some point, and it wouldn't shock if 164 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: they set up a contract where he gets paid like 165 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: a very good backup quarterback. But it's not gonna blow 166 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: possibly next year if Brady did get hurt. That's part 167 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: of Let's also connect the dots a little bit here, 168 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: and I was wrong about hashtag gradual decline or slight decline, 169 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: slight regression. But there is a lot of logic to 170 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: keeping him too, because if you if you kick kick 171 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: the can down the line a year here and you 172 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: decide to hold on to him, yes you're surrendering that 173 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: first round pick or whatever the bounty is, but it 174 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: gives you another year to try to figure out do 175 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: we really want to move forward with Tom Brady and 176 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: his his forties or can do we have someone in 177 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: the house that we could pass the torch to. I think, 178 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: if this really is true, if if the chef the 179 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: report is accurate, and we'll see if it's accurate, I 180 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: think it is a bit of a nod towards the 181 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: Patriots really thinking hard as great as Tom Brady is 182 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: and perhaps not not trusting behind not trusting behind him. 183 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: You've heard those whispers to here s Jake Bristy. Maybe 184 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: Jake Briskett is in somebody that they're in love with, 185 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: even though you would think that they believe in him 186 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: as a young draft pick. Right, come on. I mean 187 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: Belichick was once quoted talking about the one in fifteen 188 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: Colt season in a very derisive way, saying, we we 189 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: don't want to be that team. We don't want to 190 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: lose one player and then our whole team falls apart. 191 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: I think they, you know, quarterback is obviously the most 192 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: important position. I think they want to be in a 193 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: position where if Tom Brady got hurt or something happened, 194 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's a characterist, get suspended again. This guy, 195 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: he's trouble that let's start that one characters that they 196 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: could win a super Bowl, that they would have a 197 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: chance to compete for a championship with Garoppolo. It's gonna 198 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: be very tricky in and maybe this will happen in 199 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: August to work out another contract for Garoppolo, and I 200 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:23,599 Speaker 1: think that's probably what they would love to do. And 201 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 1: in a perfect world, could they sign him to a 202 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: three year deal with some sort of option where he 203 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: can get out if would want when he could break 204 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: the bank, probably next year if he just if they 205 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: decided not to trade him. Yeah, he he might not 206 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: want to, but maybe you could build an out into 207 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 1: the contract where he can opt out or it's incentivized 208 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: if he becomes the starter. Who knows? All right, So 209 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: that's a that's a major story to keep an eye on. 210 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: Let's other whisper Saints wide receiver Brandon Cooks name dropped 211 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: as a potential trade target. Uh you heard this late 212 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: last year and now on Thursday, rap Sheet reported that 213 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: Cook's rolling interest at the combine Chris Mortenson also know 214 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: that both the Titans and the Eagles identified as suitors. 215 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 1: What what do we think about this, Kevin Patrick? Is 216 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: this a move? Why would the Saints want to move Brandon? Well, 217 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: I think it's one of their few assets. They need 218 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: to build a defense and they need to build assets, 219 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: and that's one of the few He's He was clear 220 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: that they have to trade for one, and he was 221 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 1: clearly just runted disgruntled at the end of last year 222 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: after the Rams game when he said, you know, uh, 223 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: closed mouths don't get fed Kathy didn't have a catch. 224 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean I think that they might have gotten a 225 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: little fed up with him once he did that. And 226 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: it's just time to move on and they need to 227 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: get higher draft picks and they need to build a defense. 228 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: They have my boy Michael Thomas in there that can 229 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: be the number one. He's already proving it. Yeah. Ownership, yes, absolutely, 230 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: of another grown young man. He would like to know that. 231 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: That's fine. I'll talk to him. Uh. By the way, 232 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: speaking of Kevin Patrick, a little bit of heat. I mean, 233 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: they have the bench press. They everything needs to be 234 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: blown out. Everything. We're doing this instead of the bench press, 235 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: which I'm disappointed about. And and the combines no difference. 236 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: You know, Opening Day became Gatorade fueled Opening Night. Uh 237 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 1: or excuse me, Media Day became um Opening Night fueled 238 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: by Gatorade featuring the ex Ambassadors. You know, all these 239 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 1: things get bigger and bigger. The combines no difference. Now 240 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: the bench press has an audience. They have two sets 241 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: of bleachers set up for people to watch the prospects 242 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: here at the combine. Uh do the bench press? And 243 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: I tweeted out some pictures and jeez, Andrew Siciliano replied 244 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: and said, if the A t N podcast guys are 245 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: involved in a contest, my money's on Chris Westling, which 246 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: which that just means Andrew is all by himself on 247 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: the TV side. He has no idea what's going on 248 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: in the world. That's all. That's all that is. Why 249 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: don't you don't even takes isn't here? Why don't you 250 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: go prove it? Because earlier today I saw some members 251 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: of the media doing the bench press. Is it like pounds? 252 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. It was, it was 253 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: out there, it was out there. The sicilian will go 254 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: on your whiteboard. Like I said, he's not close enough 255 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: to the to the to the vest. He doesn't mean 256 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: as much Michael Thomas, who Patrick feels a great affinity 257 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: towards um. He is probably at the center of all 258 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: this week. Think why the Saints might feel that he's expendable, right, 259 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 1: he had a really nice season. I've got another theory. Okay, 260 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: if you're kind of not in Drew Brees is little 261 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: clubhouse of boys. Sorry by Jimmy Graham, you might be 262 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: like on your way to a Hall of Famer. See 263 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: you later. Oh, Kenny, Still, what's going on later, Kenny Stills, 264 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: You're out. It's like this is like the Mafia. It's 265 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 1: like every couple of episodes, just one of the big 266 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: characters in the Sopranos. You're dead. Did you see what 267 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: Drew Brees said after the Jimmy Graham trade. He had 268 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: no idea that's something like that could happen. Not true, alright, 269 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: moving on, Hey, the Jacksonville Jaguars are in the midst 270 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: of attempting to write the ship with Tom Coughlin on 271 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: board now, and you got Doug Marone. When I saw 272 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: Doug Moron by the way I walked past them in 273 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: the hallway, humble brag, and I had kind of forgotten 274 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: that he actually got that job. It's still kind of 275 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: shocked at me that Doug Marrone got this job. But 276 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of beside the point, uh Connor or you 277 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: are working on, even if it's in your mind still 278 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: a banger about the power structure, what you had some 279 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 1: takeaways about what's going on in Jacksonville based on the 280 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: last couple of days here in Indian I think like 281 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: it at first when we all kind of saw it 282 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: coming in there, like we're gonna ship this angry seventy 283 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: year old down here and just like like the whole 284 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: thing is gonna be like a massive hornets nest. But 285 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: the more that I've like talked to people this week, 286 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: like I actually think everybody's got sort of the right 287 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: attitude about it, Like, hey, everyone here, like we can 288 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: learn from one another. Of course, best laid plans, you know, 289 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: you always get disrupted interceptions in the first two weeks 290 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: and that's all out the window. But like, I think 291 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: it's cool to hear like people like I'm excited to 292 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: learn from him, Like he's got some interesting things to 293 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: tell me. And it's it's one of those things that 294 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like lip service, Like okay, was that was 295 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: gonna be my follow up? Like what why do you 296 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: believe that? It's not that? Like it feels different to 297 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: me than like Sean mcveigheing like it's so good to 298 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: have Wade Phillips around, and Wade Phillips is like I 299 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: should be a head coach and this guy, you know, 300 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's old enough to be my grandson. You know. 301 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: It feels like it feels different than the last time 302 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: the Jaguars know al you under with their it's still on, 303 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, and when the Jaguars and the Browns are 304 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: in the playoffs and everyone's like, oh, when did this happen? 305 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm gonna be I'm gonna have pages 306 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: of material. I'm still I'm still amazed. Though I asked, 307 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, in the in that press or whether there 308 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: was a scenario Bordles would even be competing for the job. 309 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: But like every answer at in this week is like 310 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: every every position is open. It's like every position in 311 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: the league is open to competition, except for the Jaguars quarterback. 312 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: Like he brought that up and he's like, no, you know, 313 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't really see that. Blake. Blake's our quarter back. 314 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Got to replace sixty four touchdowns? Were you gonna find? 315 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: Were you gonna find sixty four touchdowns? By baby from compete? 316 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: We I only get to see like once or twice 317 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: a year, and I just want to as I look 318 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: into those big brown eyes, it's so happy. I'm so 319 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: happy to see you. It's great to see you. Drinks. 320 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: The brown stuff that rends up is polidge X beating Manton. 321 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: My not State ballet got super purple snubs. So it's 322 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: Connor or Fando today got slow snubs is Landow today, Well, 323 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,359 Speaker 1: who are you kidding me? How about the idea that 324 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: that song becoming a global hit? Lad to you not 325 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: being snubbed and you're here at the combine. I think 326 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: that was part of my plan when I put that 327 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: on your radar. Yeah, you know, I'm thinking, I'm since 328 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: the wearing the Pro Bowl swag right now, So I 329 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: know that's nice something came out of Orlando that was positive, 330 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: that the Pro Bowl skills coming. How about the theory though, 331 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: that the podcast has now turned into essentially when we talk, 332 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: it's a commercial to set up some sort of damn 333 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: singing sound drop, which is the actual show, Like we're 334 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: just here to serve they know. I think every show 335 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: as it goes on, it kind of evolves. And that's 336 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: where we are now, after like four years of kind 337 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: of mostly football talk, a little bit of mirth. You're 338 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: You're nailing it. I'm sucking whatever I can out of 339 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: this and I'm getting a much better gig. It's gonna 340 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: be fantastic. Um, here's some other here's some other information 341 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: that you need to know. You know, some teams have 342 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: good quarterback situations. Some teams have bad quarterback situations. The 343 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: forty Niners actually don't have a quarterback situation. Yeah. Colin Kaepernick, 344 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: his new agents told all thirty two teams on Tuesday 345 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: that he will be opting out of his contract with 346 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 1: the forty Niners. This according to rap She he was 347 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 1: due to make almost seventeen million in salary and bonuses 348 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: in seen. This news comes just one week after new 349 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: GM John lynch Um said Kaepernick left the team facility 350 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: quote excited following a quote positive discussion and called me, which, 351 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 1: by the way, this leaves no quarterbacks under contract. That 352 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: was the point I was getting to in San Francisco, 353 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,959 Speaker 1: cole quarterback was somewhat liberating somewhere to have no quarterbacks 354 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: that I won't feel that way, uh come September probably, 355 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: But and I didn't think it was necessarily. It felt 356 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: a little bit of a coincidence and not to uh 357 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: to undercut what Kaepernick did with the kneeling uh during 358 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: the national anthem and the and the statement he was 359 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: trying to make. And I think it actually led to 360 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: some discussion, which was good. But I also didn't find it. 361 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: I found it a little bit coincidental that today there 362 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: was a report that Colin Kaepernick plans to stand from 363 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: national anthem next year. So just in case any of 364 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: you team owners Buffalo, you know, you know, you you 365 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: right leaning team owners don't want me in your building, 366 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: I'll stand for the national anthem. I thought that was 367 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: a little little a little bit of a coincidence. You're 368 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: questioning the man's integrity, but he does have to go 369 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: get some money, you know, Lynch said, I don't think 370 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: it was total lip service. He said that the door 371 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: was open for Kaepernick to return in a very real way, 372 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: was his words, and my the way I took that 373 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: was if he doesn't get any other jobs, he could 374 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 1: probably come back there on like a one year, three 375 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: million dollar contract. They they essentially said that they're going 376 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: to bring in a veteran and a rookie, which almost 377 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: goes without saying because they need to add about three 378 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 1: or four and that Kaepernick could basically be one of 379 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: two veterans or something like that. In my mind, which 380 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 1: says he's not falling out of the league. I don't 381 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:45,959 Speaker 1: think the question is for me is where is that 382 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: rookie quarterback coming? Is it coming with the number two pick? 383 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: Do they like someone enough in this draft? Or is 384 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: that going to kick the can down the road and 385 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: be like, we don't really like any of these guys, 386 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: so we're gonna make have just played bad again for 387 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,719 Speaker 1: another year and then I hope somebody falls in our 388 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: lap next year. I'm just still trying to imagine this 389 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: scenario where like you walk in already as someone believed 390 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: to be an unqualified general manager, and then you're asked 391 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: to talk to reporters to the scout in combine with 392 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: zero quarterbacks. Just like what we worried. He really sound 393 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: and someone else pointed this out on Twitter. He really 394 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: sounded like a color analyst sometimes talking about the players, 395 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 1: because he was like, you know, Deshaun Kaiser, the Notre 396 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: Dame quarterback, he came in there and he blew the 397 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: doors off our interview, and I was like, wow, this 398 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 1: is cool. I actually hope that going around the league 399 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: a few times doesn't make him hardened and bid, because 400 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: that's how Matt Millen sounded when he first started. If 401 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: I remember that, he was very forthcoming and like was 402 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: just all fired about the rookie quarterbacks and was saying, 403 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: like why each one was good? He was at you know, 404 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: he was actually giving a lot of information, and I 405 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: just get the same like he's gonna that's going to 406 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: be maybe not physically or maybe physically, And get the 407 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: sense Kyle Shannahan's picking these qbs. Maybe that's why it's lebrating, 408 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: like he's gonna get three qps he wants. You would 409 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: you would assume he's the guy picking. As a television 410 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 1: analyst that he repeatedly refer to the NFL's the National 411 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 1: Football League. UM one last note spinning back to we're 412 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: talking about Garoppolo and what's next with him. Obviously, the 413 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are a team that are in the mark 414 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,160 Speaker 1: in the market for a quarterback, or so we think. 415 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: Sashi Um said at one point this week that there 416 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: is a scenario, I guess where all three of the 417 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 1: current quarterbacks on the roster named the m'connor, Kevin Hogan, 418 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: Robert Griffin, and that could be their big three. Seen. 419 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody buys that. In fact, Mike Silver 420 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: believes that the that the Browns are hoping. You know 421 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people are saying Myles Garrett number one 422 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: to the Browns and then they hope to get a 423 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: quarterback at number twelve. If he's there if use guys there. 424 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: But anyway, everyone's asking um Brown's management about the quarterback position. 425 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: And and Jimmy Garoppolo, who's property of another team, not 426 00:21:55,640 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: Kevin patra Um is a guy he can't actually talk about, 427 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean people are asking about it. We're 428 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 1: going to ask him about it anyway. This is what 429 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: we heard. Imagine going into the next scene without yes, 430 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: why why would why anythink that would like do you 431 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 1: think why would you think that? Why would you think 432 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,919 Speaker 1: that could be? And then he like paused and then 433 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: he was good, that did you ask that question? No, 434 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: it was I got a hero fantastic. What was Sashi's reply, Well, 435 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: I think, like you know, the company line, which I 436 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: think they came prepared for, was like, we just have 437 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: to be prepared for that possibility, like if the draft 438 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: totally happened, blindsides us, we just have to be ready 439 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: just in case this happens. But like the Browns Press 440 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: Corps has completely stripped away any niceties. And I don't 441 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: know if anyone was with me, Hugh Jackson and someone 442 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: just said, like, your right tackle sucks, what are we 443 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: gonna do about? You know? And every just like totally unhinged. 444 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: It's beautiful. The honeymoon period is definitely over. Uh, and 445 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: they'll need results and that's why they need a quarterback. 446 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: And and like they were talking about Mitch Drabinski who today, 447 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,199 Speaker 1: which was apparently big news. And when they brought up 448 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: that up to Hugh, he was like his eyes lit up. 449 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: He's all excited. I'm happy and he basically it's like that, 450 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: that's kind of my line is six to Like I 451 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: need quarterbacks to be six to another. Meanwhile, one of 452 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,680 Speaker 1: the guys on his roster, Cody Kessler, is six. It's like, well, 453 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: you don't have to read between the lines there, it's 454 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 1: right there. All right, let's now that's kind of some 455 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: of the one. We'll continue to to bring back things 456 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: that we've heard and all that stuff. Um, but let's 457 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: now move on and do some news. Since the last time, 458 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 1: we haven't done a show since Monday, so a lot 459 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: to catch up on solid Let's do some news. Is 460 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: Daddy ever coming back? No BLSA tones of the Great 461 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 1: Mark SASA will be hearing from him a little bit later. 462 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: Let's start with news out of New York. Their last podcast, 463 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: I think we talked about the the end of the 464 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: road for Nick Mangold in New York and now it's 465 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 1: Darrell Darrell Rivas's turn to say goodbye. The Jets informed 466 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: Revus of his impending release, the team announced on Tuesday, 467 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: not a surprise move after Revas suffered through just a 468 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 1: dreadful season and then on top of it which did 469 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: not help matters, even though Todd Bowl said it did 470 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: not factor into the release. At the combine, he got 471 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:26,119 Speaker 1: ar reigned on five criminal charges UH connected to some 472 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: type of brawl earlier this month. So the Jets say 473 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: goodbye to Revas. Ending um Greg Rosenthal a failure of 474 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: an experiment, not an experiment of a reunion between player 475 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: and team. It was a bad idea when they signed him. 476 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: And I think the contract that Darrell Reevas signed, it's 477 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: interesting that his whole career, he's always looking for that 478 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 1: next pay day to to maximize his value in a 479 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: league which is set up against players maximizing his value 480 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: their value. And Revs did a better job just about 481 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: than anyone throughout his career. And part of that was 482 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: he got the Jets to give him this final contract 483 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: that guaranteed six million dollars with offset language and the 484 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 1: money into next year. And I think that contract, which 485 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 1: is player friendly, is ultimately going to retire Darrell Rivas 486 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: a year early. If that, if there was no offset 487 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: language in that money, and Durrell Rivas could double dip 488 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:25,719 Speaker 1: this year where he could make salaries from two teams, 489 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: then he'd continue playing. But that salary is six million dollars. 490 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: I know we'll get to that in a second six 491 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: million dollars. So Vas would have to find another team 492 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: willing to pay him more than six million dollars, or 493 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: essentially he would decide to play football for free that 494 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 1: the Jets would save some money. He would be doing 495 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: the Jets of favor by playing, and he would be 496 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: essentially playing for free. And who's playing who is less 497 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: likely to play football for free than Durrell Rivas. He's 498 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: done it all. Put a sandwich on it. This is 499 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: gonna be a delicious sandwich. I hope I can have 500 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: it out here and Indianapolis because there's a lot m no. 501 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 1: But the thing about Darrell Reevis is I think this 502 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 1: is a different person. I think when he signed that 503 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: last Jets contract, one of the big talking points from 504 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: his camp was trying to tone down that mercenary image. 505 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: And I think it was something that you know, especially now, 506 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: if he decides that this is what he wants to do, 507 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 1: Money's not a factor, and at this point your legacy 508 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: is kind of what's left hanging in the bounds. He's 509 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: already he's rehired an agent, and he's and he's lost 510 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: twenty pounds. He had twenty to lose. That's all right. 511 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: Let me and here's another counterpoint, because I if you 512 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,439 Speaker 1: want to throw around some sandwiches, I might take you 513 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: up on it as well. If you really think he's 514 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: gonna retire, he had he. I don't know who this 515 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: version of Darrell Revers was the one that that we've 516 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: seen the last year. Because the guy that whose play 517 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: fell off the cliff, whose effort was questioned, who who 518 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: said some things uh in the media that left you 519 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: shaking your head and then got arrested. That guy is 520 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 1: in complete can flicked uh and and a clash with 521 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: the guy that I knew and followed closely his entire career, 522 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: a guy that was a brilliant athlete, a guy that 523 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: was a tireless worker, a guy that used to get 524 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: mad at guys on the practice field. The practice squad 525 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: guys if they didn't give him enough of a challenge. 526 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: He studied the tape. He was never the fastest guy, 527 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: but he was so great with the tape study. I 528 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: think there's there's a very real chance that he wants 529 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: to go out on a better note than this, because 530 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: he's kind of going out in a disgraceful way where 531 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: it's a season where people are making fun of him 532 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: about Revis Island. He's a prideful guy. So as much 533 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: as I can't make sense of this last year of revas, 534 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't rule him out trying to write his career 535 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: somehow and go out in a better way, and especially 536 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: in that market. I mean talk radio every day, Like 537 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: you know, John from Orange County like calls in and 538 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: it's like just buried his boem, you know, and like 539 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: it's at some point I think that all he internalizes 540 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: that that that there should be pride, But there's also 541 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: the pride of that he knows he's an all time great. 542 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 1: And when you're out there and you can't play like that, 543 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: that that's tough to deal with. You know, you don't 544 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: want to just where is he gonna put jag? He's 545 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: not making my whole thing. He's not making the six million. 546 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: No even what position is he gonna play. He talked about, 547 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: you know, perhaps moving to safety during the season, which 548 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: I thought was weird during the season that he would 549 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: contemplate that and then Todd Bowls even today sounded a 550 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: little skeptical that whether that he could have made that transition. 551 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: It's maybe not as easy as we think it might be. Balls. Meanwhile, 552 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,479 Speaker 1: Ducks is I don't know what happened here. He skipped 553 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: the General Scouting Combined press conference and then did some 554 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: early morning session with locals. He's feeling the heat bringe, Well, 555 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure he is. I'm sure, I'm sure he has 556 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: feeling the heat. It's not it's not an easy market 557 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: to coach in. And that's the other thing, Like, you're right, 558 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 1: it was not the right signing in retrospect, but I 559 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: always thought that he would kind of age gracefully and 560 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: have a Champ Bailey type career, and I don't think 561 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: anybody really anticipated it. The Jets have a lot of 562 00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: egg on their face, but it kind of was a 563 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: stunning and by the way, a true Jet move would 564 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: he does get the fireback loses twenty pounds, signs with 565 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: another team and goes to another Super Bowl, maybe returns 566 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: to the Patriots on a low cost. You I can 567 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: see that that would be great. You know, he is 568 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer, though that gets thrown 569 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: around a lot. He is one of the beast the 570 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: best defensive players. So you're trying to eulogize the man 571 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: right now, he'll be back. You called it, Greg and 572 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: your debrief column, which everyone should check out, I think 573 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: was franchise death day. What was the franchise player doom day? 574 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: Franchise legend departure day? Because Jamal Charles, in the same 575 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: day that Darrell Rivas's Jets career ended, the Chiefs released 576 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: the thirty year old running back. Uh. This is a 577 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: player who has had knee injuries and missed a great 578 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: part of the last two years. And I happened to 579 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: be um standing right underneath the great underrated. Uh. That 580 00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: was very trump the great underrated Uh Andy Reid, uh 581 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: big Bigley. And he said he he called um Jamal 582 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: Charles dirty, tough. I thinks what he's the way he 583 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: described him, called him a Hall of Famer and wished 584 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 1: him well. Uh. And it's the end of the road 585 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 1: for Jamal Charles, what kind of market I think. I 586 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: think I threw him out there, Greg when you were 587 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: talking about the top one on one. Where did he 588 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: end up falling? When you and West did your tabulations around. 589 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 1: I believe I had him in the sixties. To me, 590 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,760 Speaker 1: his ceiling is kind of a useful role player. So 591 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: do you really want him more than le Garrett Blunt 592 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: for instance, or even Latavious Murray. I don't see the 593 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: ceiling being too high, and the realities he's played like 594 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: a handful of games in the last couple of years. 595 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: I guess the counter is yes, the the injuries the 596 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: last two years. He was as good as ever the 597 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: last time we saw him healthy, So it wasn't like 598 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,240 Speaker 1: he was going into de gone and then got hurt. 599 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: He was still a top three running back in the league. 600 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: There's just not a lot of trucks for it. For 601 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: thirty one year old who had a d combined carries 602 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: over two years coming back and being great. I think 603 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: it's gonna depend on what kind of price he's willing 604 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: to pay out and play out I mean, and then 605 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: by that I mean low price and the fit and 606 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: I think Doug Paterson already said that the Eagles will 607 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: evaluate him if he's healthy. That's a fit to me. 608 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean they need death there. If Ryan Matthews is 609 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: gone and he knows that offense at least somewhat. I mean, 610 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: these injuries don't just go back these two years. He's 611 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: had injuries throughout his career. We're here in Lucas Oil 612 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: Stadium and I was thinking of the last time that 613 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs were in a shootout in this stadium and 614 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: Jamal Charles was hurt in that game. They couldn't rely 615 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: on them. When they're going back and forth and Alex 616 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: Smith is putting up points, then you're just burying all 617 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: the legends by them all. Jeez, time waits for no man. Hey, look, 618 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: I'm not the one who said some guy was his boy. Yeah, 619 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: that was a little too much. Mr Patra at literal. 620 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: In other legend news, Adrian Peterson looks like he's headed 621 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: else where. The Vikings won't pick up his two thousand 622 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: seventeen option. He was set to count eighteen million against 623 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings salary cap next season. Um So I 624 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 1: wouldn't call it a surprise. Uh Rick Spielman said, in 625 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 1: a statement on Tuesday that Adrian is an important part 626 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: of the Minnesota Vikings organization. I think he said at 627 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: the combine that they haven't closed the door on him 628 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 1: potentially returning, but this feels like the end of the road, right. 629 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: I did enjoy the report that said basically said, Adrian 630 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: Peterson doesn't understand why people don't think he's still a 631 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: great running like could could be still a great running back, 632 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: And like this whole time, he's been like, well, here's 633 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: my wish list of team once I get cut, and 634 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: it's just like giants give me a call and they're like, 635 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: we don't we run out of the shotguns, So probably not, 636 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 1: you know, And uh, there seems to be like a 637 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: little bit of misplaced arrogance at this point. I think 638 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Sometimes the last guy to know that 639 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: he's not the same guy anymore is that guy, which 640 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: it makes it tough dealing with more recently than then 641 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: Charles for instance. I mean, I know he missed all 642 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: the last year, but the year before he led the 643 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: league in yards and touch rushing touchdowns. But what offense 644 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: is he gonna fit in? And I think listening to 645 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: Bock Bielman like perhaps, and could the Cowboys if they're 646 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: if he's willing to take a lower deal. But I 647 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: look listening to Spirits Spielman. He said he was in 648 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, the room with Pat Schurmer discussing like what 649 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: kind of running backs they want, And if you're having 650 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: those discussions, it probably means you want a guy that 651 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: you can play out of the shotgun more have that 652 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: quick passing game, and he can be more involved in 653 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: the past game. And Peterson was only really good out 654 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: of the shotgun. I'm a fan of his I'm a 655 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: big fan of his dad being heavily involved in all this, 656 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: Like his dad is getting quoted in every paper. His 657 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: dad was breaking down why it would be nice to 658 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: play with Aaron Rodgers, like in the in the Green 659 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: Bay papers, it's it's fantastic one sneaky landings about that 660 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: I kind of like, And I'm looking at Chris Wesley 661 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: wrote a nice piece of potential landing spot um and 662 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 1: I like the Raiders as a sneaky spot where ape 663 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: he could Landtavius Murray is headed towards free agency. Not 664 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: not a game changing talent there, even if he's had 665 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: his moments and it feels like a move the Raiders 666 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: would do to bring this this um great all pro 667 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: in and try to ring a couple more years out 668 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: of him. And they're a team that's not far away. 669 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: I would love that. I also remember Jeff Darlington, our 670 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: former colleagues report that the Vikings, I think he said, 671 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: would be willing to pay him up to six million 672 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: dollars plus incentives. I don't know if he's going to 673 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: get more than that elsewhere because of sentimentality and just 674 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: his history there. If they're willing to do that, he 675 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: might end up back in Minnesota. I liked what black 676 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: Jack del Rio had to say to UH during his 677 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: press availability. UH he was asked, what what have I 678 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: learned about or what did you learn from the sixteen season? 679 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: Said do we have that? Yeah, don't lose your quarterback? 680 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: That's right. It huge monkey wrench in the playoffs for 681 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: outside fan, UH, here's bummed they lost the quarterback. Sort 682 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,399 Speaker 1: of a shot against the bow though from Scranton native 683 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 1: Matt McLoyd, who did he could to UH to get 684 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: in there and make it happen. I will never understand 685 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: why they didn't put old Maddie McGee back you know, 686 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: into that into this road again a playoff game. No, 687 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 1: we don't need to jack Jack Doria though, you know, 688 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: carries himself like a man who just got a four 689 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 1: year conscience. I mean he's got the hair. I think 690 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: that you would admire Dan present a presence. You know, 691 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 1: Connor has been very impressed. He thinks John always, you know, 692 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: the most handsome general manager in the league. I n 693 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: cuts a striking figure. I learned a lot about Connor's 694 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: type from whose his statement that was sent a text 695 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: wide text to everyone associated with around the NFL media. 696 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, that he you found him to be just 697 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: deeply attract less. Seat is pissed somewhere. I don't know, well, 698 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: I said to him, because then we have this conversation 699 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: as less Sled was twenty feet away from us in 700 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 1: the middle of his press conference. Uh Less, you know, 701 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: looking like a character out of like a ABC dramedy. Um, 702 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, tall, handsome in the suit, and you're just like, no, 703 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: I need I need somebody stronger, you want somebody And 704 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,320 Speaker 1: then I literally that gave me the image of h 705 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,919 Speaker 1: John Elway carrying Connor across the threshold like a little baby. 706 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: This conversation is gonna be super beneficial for my career. 707 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: Um now, but elway, you know what he he strolled 708 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: in yesterday plaid on plaid, like plaid vest on plaid, 709 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: pulled it off like a champion. I mean that's hard 710 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 1: to do. You gotta strike a certain figure to do that. Um, 711 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit some news quickly here. Uh it's the 712 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: end of the line. And this you talked about free agency. 713 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: We're getting all hyped up about who's the best free agent. 714 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 1: Jari's Bird remember that name? Yeah, I ruse bired bired 715 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: once upout a time. He was the number one free agent, 716 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 1: I believe on a top one oh one or the 717 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 1: Saints gave him big money following season. It never were 718 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: down and Rob Sheet reported Tuesday that Saints will release 719 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: the veteran the veteran safety when free agent begins. Free 720 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: agency begins next week. He played three years in New 721 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: Orleans and really, I mean, greg, he never made a 722 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 1: play and he barely played the first two years and 723 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: he was just kind of there this season. The failures 724 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: in free agency of Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis has 725 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,240 Speaker 1: been largely largely ignored, like they've gotten a pass maybe 726 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 1: not in New Orleans, but they have. They're right there 727 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: with the worst front offices in the league. I think 728 00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: I like that he was sort of the centerpiece of 729 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: that discard you think. I think they they've had a 730 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,719 Speaker 1: they've had a top five quarterback, and they haven't had 731 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: a winning season three years, seven and nine. He was 732 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: like the centerpiece of the discord between like Rob Ryan 733 00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: on his way out and like the rest of the 734 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: team was like, let's let him shine, like let him 735 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: play center field and then just build a defense around it. 736 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: And then Rob just had an epic meltdown. Um and 737 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,879 Speaker 1: other news. Um, what is some other news the old 738 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,400 Speaker 1: Zeuster is looking for right now? Oh? Eric Berry and 739 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: the Chiefs they got a deal done, which I was 740 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,279 Speaker 1: very relieved about. I'm sure they were, as well as 741 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: well as Eric Berry. A seventy eight million over six 742 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: years with forty million and guarantees. This was promising to 743 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: be perhaps the most tedious summer storyline. Uh and Eric 744 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: Berry ugly holdout situation. Instead, the Chiefs get get the 745 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: job done. Uh. Patricks, this's a good deal. It's a 746 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: lot of money to give it to a twenty year 747 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,920 Speaker 1: old safety, but he's he was worth every dollar last year. 748 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: He was worth every dollar last year, and uh Andy 749 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: Reid said yesterday he's the heartbeat of the defense, and 750 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: I think he proved that. I mean, you saw what 751 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 1: he did. He basically beat the Falcons in that game 752 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: on the road. He's the playmaker from that that secondary 753 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: that they need so they can plain press coverage up top. 754 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: He can come down in the box. He can really 755 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: do it all. The only question was the was the 756 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:53,919 Speaker 1: health issue. And it came a day before they cut 757 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 1: Jamal Charles and they only have room for so many players. 758 00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: But also came a day after they gave a forty 759 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 1: one million dollar contract to Laurent DuVernay Tardif, whoa good 760 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:10,920 Speaker 1: for you. It was still at McGill Medical School right now. 761 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: So that shows you. You know, the game waits for 762 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: no one when you're signing du Burnai Tardif to a 763 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: huge contract and then you're cutting a legend like Jamal Charles. 764 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 1: But McGill a fine institution where my brother went to schools. 765 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: The only reason you wanted I would say that. You 766 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: say that the podcast is evolving into this thing where 767 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: I'm just setting up different bits. I mean, I feel 768 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,320 Speaker 1: like it's evolving to a place whereight just where you 769 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: can get two lane references in in various college memories 770 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: of yours and every tower Greg anytime I can get 771 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: Duvernai Tardif And but Steelers signed James Harrison to two year, 772 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: three and a half million dollar deal. He is unkillable 773 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: and now literally is uh you wanna do a little 774 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,479 Speaker 1: tag talk tag talk, Let's do it, and we'll start 775 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 1: with the big one. Because the Redskins put the exclusion 776 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: some franchise tag on Kirk Cousins Washington. Uh. I know 777 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: Sid likes that because Sid is weighing our Kirk Cousins. 778 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: And in the most Kirk Cousins tweet ever, uh, he 779 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: sent out after the announcement, tag I'm at so I'll 780 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: get it there. There was like a you know when 781 00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: you were a kid and you played that game. They 782 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: started playing that with the franchise tag thing. It's clever, 783 00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 1: it's clever. But Cousins tender is expected to be valued 784 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: at at twenty three point nine for million dollars of 785 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:38,439 Speaker 1: his salar, which I believe was nineteen point nine five 786 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: million dollars. This is crazy. What are they gonna do 787 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: if he has a capable season next year, and like 788 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,600 Speaker 1: the floor on an long term deal is like twenty 789 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: seven million dollars a year. Like, there's no possible way. 790 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna touch. We're gonna dig in on 791 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 1: the Redskins and and their strategy or lack thereof with 792 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins later. But I mean you would think that 793 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: they're going to try to get get something done. But 794 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: that's a lot of money. It's a weird situation. He's 795 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: got no real reason to sign anything less than that 796 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,800 Speaker 1: either per year. I mean play under the tag. He 797 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: just did it last year. It's still gonna be a 798 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 1: dearth on Cubi market when he hits it next year. 799 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: So he's gonna get paid sooner or later. He's got all. 800 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: He's got all the chips. We'll get more into that 801 00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: a little bit later. Other tag talk Chargers place franchise 802 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: tag on Melvin Ingram. You like that move? Greg? I 803 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: do how you doing with your predictions? I think you're 804 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: doing well. Your friends very well. I guess it's over with. 805 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,239 Speaker 1: You have to check. There was only seven, so I 806 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 1: think I had one had a couple off, but not 807 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 1: not too bad. I think they're really going to try 808 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: to sign him long term. Listening to Tom Talsco, their 809 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,240 Speaker 1: general manager, talk about you know what an impact he 810 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 1: he is downded down, including against the run. They also 811 00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: said they they're going to try and they sounded pretty 812 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: confident about bringing Danny woodhead back. Who's the rams uh 813 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 1: will hold on to Tremaine Johnson the non exclusive franchise 814 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: tag on the veteran cornerback he's gonna make if he 815 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: plays under this almost seventeen million year. Kevin Patrick has 816 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 1: a lot of money for Trueman Johnson. It is a 817 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: lot of money, and unless said today that they want 818 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: to see how he fits with wait phillips. So you're 819 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: paying a guy seventeen million, you're not sure how well 820 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:16,920 Speaker 1: he's gonna fit, So they're barely gonna talk about a 821 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,399 Speaker 1: long term extension until after the year. Then you're either 822 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,080 Speaker 1: paid a guy seventeen million for an average year, average 823 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: poor year if he doesn't fit well, or you're screwed 824 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: next year when you can't tag him. We got the 825 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,960 Speaker 1: third time. This is a move of he's kind of 826 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 1: like a league average starting cornerback, but that's worth a lot, 827 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: and they just they've already lost they're probably gonna lose 828 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: t J. McDonald to Greg Williams Is Browns. You know, 829 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,440 Speaker 1: he goes to Cleveland. He's gonna take a player who 830 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: doesn't really fit into Wade Phillips system, and that means 831 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,759 Speaker 1: they'll have lost three good starters in the last two years. 832 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: So they're just kind of desperate and you gotta keep 833 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: And they're paying a lot of money to like guys 834 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: like Mark Baron in Tavon Austin and Ogle Trees. All right, 835 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: he's at the top of Mark. You know a lot 836 00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: of guys who are just like okay, and they're getting 837 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 1: ten twelve million dollars. That team is butt and they 838 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: they they have a nineteen year old head coach too, 839 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 1: that could be a problematic. And one one person that 840 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: did not get the franchise tag dot to High Tower, 841 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 1: who of course um stalwart on that Patriots defense made 842 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: a huge play, the game changing play in Super Bowl 843 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,640 Speaker 1: fifty one, the sack strip, and was basically a dominant 844 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: player the Patriots. The side with a lot of other 845 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: needs and uh people to take care of. Not to 846 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:32,359 Speaker 1: use the franchise tag, Greg, Uh, you upset that Tower 847 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: probably will not be a Patriot This is a rare case. 848 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,439 Speaker 1: I think they could get a long term deal done 849 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: right before free agency starts, are right as it starts, 850 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,600 Speaker 1: that they're gonna be in the mix. That they probably 851 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,839 Speaker 1: thought the right like, they either wanted a long term 852 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,520 Speaker 1: deal or nothing, and they probably thought this was the 853 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: right way to approach. That They've done this with a 854 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: few guys that they really believe in. You think he's 855 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna be a value Connor, I do, But every player 856 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: on this team has Stockholm syndrome. It's amazing. They're like, sorry, Bill, sorry, 857 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: antisted free agency, let me come back and sign for 858 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: three million dollars a year instead of ten, you know, 859 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,640 Speaker 1: And that's what's gonna happen. Everyone's just gonna everyone's really 860 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,760 Speaker 1: scared of that. They're gonna get treated to the Browns 861 00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: and they're all just gonna stay on this roster forever. 862 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,440 Speaker 1: But there are a lot of There are a lot 863 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 1: of Bellichick Billichick. It's in other teams, Bob Quentin being 864 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 1: one of them. And the Lions need a linebacker. I 865 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: was there when they drafted. Bring him to Cleveland and 866 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: team them up with Jamie Collins. Tennessee. Tennessee has a 867 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: former Patriot. You know the Bucks, they're pretty good at linebacker. 868 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:33,720 Speaker 1: But how about you answer to the Stockholm syndrome um charge. 869 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: So you're the charges that they get so used to 870 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,919 Speaker 1: winning champion you know, championships that they just can't bear 871 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,880 Speaker 1: to not do that. That that's like a habit. You 872 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: take the fun out of everything. All right, here you go. 873 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: Now it's time to say goodbye. It's hard to say goodbye, 874 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,560 Speaker 1: but we have so much to get to today. Uh 875 00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 1: so Connor Or and Kevin Patra Uh now you m 876 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 1: vacate your seats. Wait? Are we able to have all 877 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: six on that you want to try it? I mean 878 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,000 Speaker 1: just I mean just for like, I really don't want 879 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: to be a minute or two, you know where it's everyone. 880 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,840 Speaker 1: I think it would be a record of around the 881 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 1: end of a host at one time. I don't know 882 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,400 Speaker 1: if this is technically possible, Sydney, is that possible? It 883 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: is technically possible. We'll see how this goes. You're ready 884 00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: ready to bring bring him in. Let's see what happens. 885 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 1: You should really just kick us out of here. We're 886 00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:29,080 Speaker 1: going to just a couple of minutes. I'm glad Patrick 887 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: stayed on because I have purchased a whiteboard and accepted 888 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 1: his challenge. Okay, what do we what are you doing 889 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: when you dismissed me in the bench press comments, you 890 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: dismissed yourself. You said you had a tone rotator cuff. 891 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 1: I was just quoting, no, no, no no, no, I'm sitting 892 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: next I'm sitting next to Christmas while you guys been 893 00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: out there drinking your beers, eating your shrimp stuff in 894 00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,399 Speaker 1: the food in your face. Chris Wesleyan has been back 895 00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,040 Speaker 1: here in Los Angeles. His body is absolutely on a 896 00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,919 Speaker 1: fire right now. Good luck taking him on any sort 897 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:06,359 Speaker 1: of athletic competition. Any of you, what do you mean? 898 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 1: What do you mean? Any manager? That was the I'll 899 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 1: take you in cross country running West. That's not a sport, Greg, alright, 900 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: well this was This is just greg S instincts were 901 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,600 Speaker 1: proven right. This was an amazing conversation between the six 902 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:30,320 Speaker 1: of illuminating. So Connor, goodbye, I'll see you say no 903 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 1: most tonight. I can't believe I'm leaving this place, all right, 904 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 1: see you, Connor, I mean Kevin Patra white board. Baby. 905 00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 1: The challenge has been laid out. The gaunt let is 906 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,640 Speaker 1: thrown a couple of heath Evans is in training them. 907 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:48,160 Speaker 1: All right now we welcome in officially, Chris Wesley and 908 00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,799 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. How are you? How how you boys doing 909 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:56,359 Speaker 1: back in l A. We're holding it down well, tell 910 00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 1: us stories, not much to tell. I mean you you 911 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of know what the vibe is here. You you 912 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: come in, you sit down at your desk, you do work. 913 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: That's sort of what what's unfolded for the two of us. Yeah, 914 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,479 Speaker 1: I saw it. There were some like you live here, 915 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: I do live there. Um, I saw some. I always 916 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,839 Speaker 1: enjoy the Mark Sessler tweets that that are really out there. 917 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,800 Speaker 1: But the ones recently, there have been a couple of 918 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 1: recently I've been really flying high on. I've really enjoyed them. Um, 919 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: trying to look it up right now. There was one 920 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 1: particularly that I was hoping maybe we could get some 921 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: clarity on. I want to look it up right now. 922 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,960 Speaker 1: Is it the one that engined ended in ancient Egypt? 923 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,080 Speaker 1: I think that might have been a different one. The 924 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: one I was looking at was good that we have 925 00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: a teed right up? All right, here's one. This was 926 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: from eighteen hours ago. Teletype burns bright backslapping in Vogue, 927 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,840 Speaker 1: well fed souped up clown types will be scattered to 928 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: the western wind, and then emoji of a tree of 929 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: some kind. Any insight, there no idea what that means. 930 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,239 Speaker 1: I don't even remember typing it. Are we the are we? 931 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: The telets type souped up? What is it? I don't know? No, 932 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm not referring to you, Greg Um. All right, there 933 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:14,440 Speaker 1: was another one, but so many tweets on Mark Speed 934 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:18,800 Speaker 1: because he's been um pounding away back at the home office. 935 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,560 Speaker 1: And now, gentlemen, um, let's talk about um. Let's talk 936 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: about the QB market. Why don't we a nice little 937 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: segment between the four heroes here? Uh, and we'll do 938 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:34,799 Speaker 1: a little winners and losers? Uh the press conference. Wait, yes, 939 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,040 Speaker 1: I've got a little bit of breaking news here. What 940 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 1: you got on the Round the NFL podcast? All right, 941 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 1: let's hear it. Here's Mark Sessler's tweet from February into 942 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: the woods to walk between strange lands. No more experts, 943 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,840 Speaker 1: no more botched fear based nonsense. Just what is ahead 944 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: ancient Egypt? Mark? I don't I mean again, I don't 945 00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:03,360 Speaker 1: have like a tangible explanation for what that means. But uh, 946 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,919 Speaker 1: you know it's I liked I like to just throw 947 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 1: stuff out there when I'm feeling it. I really I 948 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 1: would like to provide a deeper explanation. I have none 949 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,400 Speaker 1: for you. Okay, So let's get that the idea of 950 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 1: I love the idea of looking ahead and then going 951 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,879 Speaker 1: ancient egypt. Um. All right, So let's let's get into it, guys, 952 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: and and let's share some winners and losers of Combine weekend. 953 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: We're gonna start with Chris Wesley because Chris, I know, 954 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: um get off my gridiron, one of the one of 955 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,080 Speaker 1: the big weekly bangers at NFL dot com. Um, you have, 956 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: you have something you need to get off your chest. 957 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: So why don't we get into this discussion with your 958 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: thought on the quarterback market and what we're seeing as 959 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: Combine week rolls on. Well, we we're talking about this 960 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 1: as a winners and losers segment. And to me, the 961 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,759 Speaker 1: winners are all of the organizations that realized in two 962 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,200 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen that the quarterback market was exploding and acted accordingly. 963 00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,600 Speaker 1: And the losers are all the organizations that didn't realize 964 00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: the quarterback market was exploding. And that starts with the Redskins. 965 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,160 Speaker 1: Compare them to their a f C East rivals the Eagles, 966 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 1: who in two thousand fifteen offered two first round picks, 967 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: more picks, Sam Bradford, more veterans for the opportunity to 968 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,440 Speaker 1: trade up for number one pick, and the Titans and 969 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: Bucks both turned them down. Then the next year, two 970 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,320 Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, they give Sam Bradford two for thirty 971 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: six million, with twenty two million guaranteed. They make Chase 972 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,439 Speaker 1: Daniel the highest paid backup quarterback in the league. Then 973 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: they give up to first, a second, and a third 974 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: for Carson Wentz. They understand that the quarterback market is exploding. 975 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,200 Speaker 1: After that, the Rams give up a ton for Jared Goff, 976 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,280 Speaker 1: Texans over pay for brock Osweller, Cardinals give Carson Palmer 977 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 1: two point five million for one year. Ravens make Flacco 978 00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,600 Speaker 1: the biggest signing bonus in history. Colts make Luck the 979 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,880 Speaker 1: highest paid quarterback in history. All this is pointing to 980 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:00,520 Speaker 1: the reality in the NFL that if you think you're 981 00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,279 Speaker 1: getting a Jimmy Garoppolo for anything less than a first 982 00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: round pick, it's laughable. Every trade for a potential starter 983 00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: in the NFL begins with a first round pick and 984 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: then you go from there. But this quarterback market is exploding, 985 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: and it's why the Redskins are in the predicament they're 986 00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,720 Speaker 1: in now because they didn't want to pay Kirk Cousins 987 00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: more than sixteen million last year when he's really a 988 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: twenty million dollar quarterback. Um, Greg, that is your loser. 989 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: Do you want to answer to that? Yeah, well, I 990 00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: I totally agree with everything West said, and I think 991 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 1: it makes sense in this We've talked about all the 992 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: extra salary cap space that's in there, and I think 993 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,239 Speaker 1: this is part of that think about a league. I've 994 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:47,960 Speaker 1: always said that quarterbacks are dramatically underpaid in the NFL. 995 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: Why Why are guys like Elvisdomerville making at some points 996 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 1: like making half as much money as Tom Brady, Like 997 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: you would never trade Tom Brady for two Elvis Doomervilles. 998 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 1: Why is Olivier Vernon making as much as some starting 999 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:07,479 Speaker 1: quarterbacks now? Like if if there was no salary cap, 1000 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 1: you would pay Kirk Cousins forty fifty million, because that's 1001 00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:11,960 Speaker 1: like how much he's worth to a franchise. So I 1002 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,360 Speaker 1: think West is right. I think that's why guys like 1003 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 1: like Mike Glennan I'll throw out there as a winner, 1004 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,799 Speaker 1: not because I think he's definitely the answer. But just 1005 00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: because of this quarterback market is going to be so 1006 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,200 Speaker 1: starved that a team that you know this guy is 1007 00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,239 Speaker 1: actually out there, the Bears and the Jets know that 1008 00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,839 Speaker 1: he's out there, he'll end up making maybe more money 1009 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 1: than Ryan Fitzpatrick made last year. That he'll be in 1010 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,839 Speaker 1: that twelve thirteen sort of well, you're not really a 1011 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. We don't even think you are, but you're 1012 00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:42,759 Speaker 1: close enough that we're gonna give you that, you know, 1013 00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:45,319 Speaker 1: close to that money. Anyways, I had heard I had 1014 00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 1: heard from someone at Combine that like thirteen million was 1015 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,279 Speaker 1: in play for Mike Glennon and and Mark you wrote 1016 00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 1: about him, um this week, this this idea that that 1017 00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,480 Speaker 1: that Glennon, who has really done nothing for two years, 1018 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,960 Speaker 1: and before we had a spirited conversation on this very 1019 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 1: podcast about whether he's worth that money. But that just 1020 00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 1: again checks into what we're talking about how much these 1021 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: guys can get paid. But Greg, why are the Redskins losers? Yeah? 1022 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,640 Speaker 1: You had set me up beautifully and I totally blue 1023 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,799 Speaker 1: past I think the Redskins are set up for a 1024 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,440 Speaker 1: big fall this year. I think it starts with some 1025 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:25,120 Speaker 1: of the drama that's happened in their front office. I 1026 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: think it started with like how West said that they 1027 00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: mis evaluated Cousins. Now they're willing, by the way, reports 1028 00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:34,040 Speaker 1: say spake Cousins twenty million a year, so they've uped it. 1029 00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:35,719 Speaker 1: If they had just done that a year ago, they 1030 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: could have got a deal done. Now that's not enough 1031 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,440 Speaker 1: because it's because he knows he could make more elsewhere. 1032 00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:45,400 Speaker 1: So they've blown that by not having foresight. Scott mcgluwen, 1033 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,760 Speaker 1: their general manager, is not here at the scouting combine um. 1034 00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,960 Speaker 1: He told the local reporter that it was a family issue. 1035 00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: It came out that is grand grandmother had passed away. 1036 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,600 Speaker 1: There's now a very ugly series of reports in Washington 1037 00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: about the timing of when this funeral actually happened. We 1038 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: don't even need to get into all of that. But 1039 00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:12,320 Speaker 1: something strange, something strange is afoot uh in Washington. Meanwhile, 1040 00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:17,760 Speaker 1: Pierre Garson is gonna leave, Deean Jackson's gonna leave, and 1041 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: I think you're gonna have a coach and the guy 1042 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: pulling the strings, Bruce Allen, making fear based decisions trying 1043 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,240 Speaker 1: to save their jobs without really a lot of talent. 1044 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:31,800 Speaker 1: I could see them spending a lot of money on defense, 1045 00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 1: and I think they've just played this Cousins thing so 1046 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 1: poorly that in a best case scenario, they're just gonna 1047 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: have to make them like the highest paid quarterback in 1048 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: the league. And in the worst case scenario, they're gonna 1049 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,359 Speaker 1: be caught holding nothing in a year. Hey West, does 1050 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 1: this tie into your kind of loser? That the Redskins 1051 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,960 Speaker 1: are an example of a team that didn't quite understand 1052 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 1: what this market was all about. Absolutely, And I think 1053 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 1: you can throw the Jets, Browns, and Bears in there too. Guys, 1054 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: teams didn't want Jimmy Garoppolo and now understand just how 1055 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,560 Speaker 1: much it will take to get him. With the Patriots 1056 00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: acting like he's not even available. You can you can 1057 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 1: point to Mike Glennon as a winner, but any team 1058 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,600 Speaker 1: that starts Mike Glennon as a loser, because your fans 1059 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 1: now know that you are in the well. As Dan said, 1060 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,200 Speaker 1: scam for Sam or I would say fold for Darnald. 1061 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 1: You're not competitive if you if Mike Glennon is your 1062 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. And that goes for Ryan Fitzpatrick or Brian 1063 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:27,399 Speaker 1: Hoyer or Josh McCown or any band aid you want 1064 00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,200 Speaker 1: to throw in there. You are not competing in the NFL. 1065 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 1: You are tactically acknowledging we're going for the number one 1066 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,239 Speaker 1: and last thing on the Redskins. See. I think one 1067 00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,359 Speaker 1: of the reasons it hurts is it felt like they 1068 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,040 Speaker 1: were out. It's been a drama free a couple of years, 1069 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:44,760 Speaker 1: and I think this has been one of the worst 1070 00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 1: run franchises in the NFL over the last twenty years. 1071 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:51,120 Speaker 1: And if you're a fan of the Redskins, you kind 1072 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:52,959 Speaker 1: of thought you were getting out of there. And they're 1073 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: starting to have some high class problems in terms of 1074 00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,320 Speaker 1: their coaches or elsewhere, taking their players. Mcveigh's in l 1075 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,400 Speaker 1: a maybe taking some of their players, you know, Shanahan's 1076 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: in San Francisco, maybe taking some of their players. Like 1077 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 1: this is the type of thing that happens to teams 1078 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: that actually have had success. This team doesn't want a 1079 00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,640 Speaker 1: playoff game. Nothing's happening, and now all the drama and 1080 00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,479 Speaker 1: the and the backbiting is coming back and you haven't. 1081 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:15,960 Speaker 1: It's not like you have anything the show for. There 1082 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: were no good times in the first place. So Mark Sessler, 1083 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: now we're gonna move on to a different conversation, but 1084 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: also quarterback related, because Mark has another winner and it's 1085 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: about QBS. I think the winner for me is that 1086 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,000 Speaker 1: where we were two weeks ago, we all agreed that 1087 00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:35,919 Speaker 1: this draftable quarterback class is not up to snuff with 1088 00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 1: classes of old and there's no Andrew Luck out there. 1089 00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 1: In fact, there's a lot of guys that a couple 1090 00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,000 Speaker 1: of months ago we're not even considered first rounders. And 1091 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: now you're starting to hear about names like Deshaun Kais 1092 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 1: or Deshaun Watson. Mitch Trobinsky is now being whispered about. 1093 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 1: Mary Kake Habot just had a story out that he 1094 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,120 Speaker 1: could potentially go number one to the Browns Mike Silver 1095 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,719 Speaker 1: or Mike Silver disputes that. I think he thinks very 1096 00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:59,840 Speaker 1: much that Miles Garat would go number one. But the 1097 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,439 Speaker 1: idea that also Patrick Mahomes, a guy that was seen 1098 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,120 Speaker 1: initially as a second or third round or is starting 1099 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: to catch fire. This happens every draft, except that this 1100 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,439 Speaker 1: time around, you're we could go back to that one 1101 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,600 Speaker 1: draft two thousand eleven I think was where were so 1102 00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: many quarterbacks were overdrafted, and that could happen again because 1103 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 1: of exactly what Chris mentioned these teams that did not 1104 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: solve this quarterback issue either last year in the draft 1105 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:26,720 Speaker 1: or thought that they could get someone like Jimmy g 1106 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: or ply away Kirk Cousins from the Redskins on the cheap. 1107 00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:34,520 Speaker 1: And it's absolutely impossible at this stage and in the 1108 00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,560 Speaker 1: game to get these guys for anything less than essentially 1109 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,760 Speaker 1: the top half of your draft and future drafts. So 1110 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,320 Speaker 1: you're stuck. If you're a team like the Browns or 1111 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:46,000 Speaker 1: the Jets or the Bills. It sounds like if they 1112 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: don't keep Tyrod Taylor, that you have to essentially go 1113 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 1: out and overdraft quarterbacks instead of being patient, because jobs 1114 00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 1: do not there's no patience. They're not going to allow 1115 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 1: these coaches to continue to go too and fourteen, three 1116 00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,160 Speaker 1: and thirteen and keep waiting for the quarterback. That's why 1117 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,640 Speaker 1: you get fired. You couldn't find a quarterback in one, 1118 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 1: two or three seasons, you're out. And so I think 1119 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,560 Speaker 1: there are some desperate teams out there. They're gonna have 1120 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,160 Speaker 1: to try to sell to their fans and their owners. 1121 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: We like this quarterback a lot more than we really do. 1122 00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 1: There's only one guy, uh in this market. He's not 1123 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 1: there yet, but he would count as if healthy, an 1124 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: instant alixir for any team that has a quarterback need. 1125 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 1: That's Tony Romo. And there's a report that came out, 1126 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,960 Speaker 1: uh from rap Sheet. This was on Tuesday that he 1127 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 1: identified the Denver Broncos is now he calls them the 1128 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 1: prime landing spot um for the thirty six year old quarterback, 1129 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: and Rapper Boards said on edit on Network, if he's 1130 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: willing to take a pay cut, it seems like the Broncos, 1131 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: and then it seems like everyone else. Now the biggest 1132 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,720 Speaker 1: part of this is the pay cut part of it. 1133 00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,800 Speaker 1: But the more I think of this, the more I 1134 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: look at it, and and from a common sense angle, uh, 1135 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:59,080 Speaker 1: to me, it feels like it's almost um fate that 1136 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:03,439 Speaker 1: Romo will be Denver Broncos quarterback. It makes so much 1137 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,360 Speaker 1: sense for everyone, and and from from Romo who gets 1138 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: to go to a winner, to the Cowboys who get 1139 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 1: Romo out of the division and the conference, uh, and 1140 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: then the Broncos, who still still have that Super Bowl 1141 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,640 Speaker 1: window open and have two young quarterbacks that, while at 1142 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,640 Speaker 1: least one of them performed soundly at times last year, 1143 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,040 Speaker 1: is not the player that Tony Romo is when healthy. 1144 00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,600 Speaker 1: It just feels like that Romo to Denver to me 1145 00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 1: is going to happen. And to me, that's just the 1146 00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 1: loser would be that quarterback room in Denver, at least 1147 00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 1: for the time being. Trevor Simeon, who probably deserves another 1148 00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: year as a starter after a promising season, he would 1149 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:42,720 Speaker 1: go on the back burner, uh and be you know, 1150 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 1: a very important to have a good backup if Tony 1151 00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 1: Romos there and then Paxton Lynch kind of goes deep 1152 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: into the background, and first round picks don't typically do that. 1153 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,480 Speaker 1: I could see Trevor Simeon being shopped or winding somewhere 1154 00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 1: else as a starter if they got if they went 1155 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,880 Speaker 1: after Romo, because you have to view Romo if you're 1156 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,560 Speaker 1: gonna do that, at least as a two year answer, 1157 01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 1: not just one has to be too. And there were 1158 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,320 Speaker 1: whispers out there on Twitter right now that Simeon there 1159 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,520 Speaker 1: are some teams that would go after Simeon, the Bills 1160 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,560 Speaker 1: potentially being one of those teams that I I think 1161 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: he becomes a much more attractive offer in my mind 1162 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,080 Speaker 1: than uh, you know, Mike Glennon. I mean, the Titans 1163 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,920 Speaker 1: just gave five million to Matt Castle. I mean you 1164 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 1: want someone to bring in that you can develop. That's 1165 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon over some of these other clowns. Would you 1166 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,240 Speaker 1: go to get sidetracked? But is Trevor Simeon a better 1167 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: option than Tyrod Taylor? Depends on what you want your 1168 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:35,600 Speaker 1: offense to be, right, I think there and thinks they're 1169 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:38,480 Speaker 1: they're close with Tyrode, you have to agree to build 1170 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:43,280 Speaker 1: your offense around his strengths. With Trevor Simeon, he's a 1171 01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 1: different kind of quarterback. And Rick Dennison, who's the coordinator 1172 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: of Buffalo, you know, was in Denver, so that it 1173 01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: makes a lot of It makes a lot of sense. 1174 01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: I did think the Broncos were sending a message though, 1175 01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 1: you know, and they've been consistent. You know. The coach 1176 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: Vance Joesph said, look, we're fine with those two young guys, 1177 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,240 Speaker 1: and John Elway talked about um, you know that he'd 1178 01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,160 Speaker 1: be a little worried about stunting the growth. And I 1179 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,080 Speaker 1: think when they're talking up that will be fine with 1180 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: these guys. I think they do mean it. I think 1181 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,800 Speaker 1: the Broncos like have a price for Romo and they 1182 01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 1: would move on like that. This is them putting it 1183 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,919 Speaker 1: out there it's like, like what Ian is saying, I 1184 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,120 Speaker 1: I just get a sense that that's how the Broncos feel. 1185 01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: And it's it's like if if they have a price 1186 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: and if he really needs to max out, then it 1187 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,760 Speaker 1: might not work for them and they'd be okay, go 1188 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: moving on, and he would have to figure out something. 1189 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:34,440 Speaker 1: They're not as desperate as another team would be, which help. 1190 01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: I spoke with Ian about this that at some length 1191 01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: when when I decided to write this up, and he 1192 01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: repeated several times, picture Colin Kaepernick the way they handle that. 1193 01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 1: Kaepernick refused to take a pay cut, and the Broncos 1194 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 1: basically washed their hands and said, Okay, we're moving on 1195 01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,960 Speaker 1: to something else. And I think they really did the 1196 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 1: same thing with Oswaller as well. Look, this is what 1197 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 1: we set your value at. If you won't take it, 1198 01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,840 Speaker 1: we're moving on. And that's the way and expect them 1199 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,280 Speaker 1: to handle the Romo situation. And if you're Romo and 1200 01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: you have another year or two in your career, it 1201 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 1: comes down to what he values. But wouldn't you if 1202 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,959 Speaker 1: I were him, I would take a little bit less coin. 1203 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 1: He's made a ton of cash. He a hundred and 1204 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,920 Speaker 1: twenty seven million in his career. He has money, he 1205 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: does not have a ring. Right, So you go to Denver, 1206 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,200 Speaker 1: you don't go to Jacksonville. You don't go to Buffalo 1207 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,440 Speaker 1: if you want to, if you want the truly best 1208 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 1: chance to win a Super Bowl. All right, boys, I 1209 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,439 Speaker 1: would love to spend more time with you, but we're 1210 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,680 Speaker 1: up against it. We gotta keep moving. It was great 1211 01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,720 Speaker 1: hearing your voices, though, And we're coming home tomorrow and 1212 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,760 Speaker 1: we miss you, guys, miss you too. I have a 1213 01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: safe flight back home. We are actually watching you guys 1214 01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: on television as we speak, so it's almost like you're here. 1215 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 1: Will you, guys, be you waiting at the airport? Of course? No, 1216 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: do not plan on calling an uber west and I 1217 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,960 Speaker 1: will come down to pick you up. No questions asked. 1218 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: Wasn't that one of our original money drops the around 1219 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,120 Speaker 1: the NFL podcast? But not pick up from their scratch? That? 1220 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:07,720 Speaker 1: All right? Thanks boys, see you guys, all right, farewell, 1221 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: all right, we say goodbye to the heroes and hello 1222 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 1: to another hero, a hero of the city of Houston, 1223 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,960 Speaker 1: a man that almost the Mayor of Houston is how 1224 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,400 Speaker 1: I see him? Uh NFL dot com is the mayor? 1225 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,520 Speaker 1: I am simply in Mr bees uh in buns um 1226 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,040 Speaker 1: just his legion of helpers. That's all I am. That 1227 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 1: is the voice of Lance Deerline. He is uh the 1228 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:34,400 Speaker 1: great uh draftman, the maestro uh. And you see his 1229 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,080 Speaker 1: stuff all over NFL Network and NFL dot Com. Right 1230 01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,280 Speaker 1: now he has his latest mock up. I think it's 1231 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 1: two point oh, which will get get into a little bit. 1232 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,520 Speaker 1: And and Lance, you've been on our show before and 1233 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,320 Speaker 1: we've so we've probably talked about it. We are not 1234 01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,560 Speaker 1: draft experts, so we we turned to the experts to 1235 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: get a little bit of knowledge as we start to 1236 01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:57,000 Speaker 1: turn towards the combine now here and then the draft 1237 01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,240 Speaker 1: before you know. It's so experts really in anything. Every 1238 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 1: way he said, it almost implied that like there's a 1239 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,120 Speaker 1: whole other field where we're on top of things. I 1240 01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,440 Speaker 1: would say, we we like know some stuff about football, 1241 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,800 Speaker 1: but not the stuff that that Lance knows so well. 1242 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,960 Speaker 1: So how do we want into the singing expert. It's 1243 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,440 Speaker 1: great at setting up a little sound drass. They focused 1244 01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:20,720 Speaker 1: we need to hear from Lance absolutely, see he's just 1245 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:25,600 Speaker 1: a little proddy comes out anyway your latest mock I 1246 01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 1: want to start with the quarterback position. Everybody loves to 1247 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 1: talk about the quarterbacks. You have Trabinsky going to the 1248 01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco for at number two. Overall, I was just 1249 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: being lazy. Tell me about that. Well, I mean, look, 1250 01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,960 Speaker 1: I've got it every time I take my one point 1251 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: oh and then I've got to change it to a 1252 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: mock two point oh. And I've got decisions to make. 1253 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 1: Do I want to leave a guy there and leave 1254 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,880 Speaker 1: his right up there, which is less less work for me, 1255 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 1: or do I want to change it Domino the whole 1256 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 1: thing now behind the curtain here. I like it keeping, 1257 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,439 Speaker 1: you know, I thought about maybe taking around. I said, 1258 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,439 Speaker 1: you know what, let's just stay right now. I wanted 1259 01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,840 Speaker 1: to keep it the same until after the combine, so 1260 01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: I I saw how it worked out and heard about 1261 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,080 Speaker 1: maybe how he interviewed. Because if he interviews well, and 1262 01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,400 Speaker 1: if he works out well, I think he does have 1263 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 1: a chance to go number two to the San Francisco 1264 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 1: forty and um it would be a little early, but 1265 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 1: I think if you are going to go to a 1266 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,040 Speaker 1: team where you got a chance to succeed, you want 1267 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,800 Speaker 1: to go to a Shanahan coach team. I don't care 1268 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,280 Speaker 1: if it's microL Kyle. I mean that offense, Gary Kubiak 1269 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:33,160 Speaker 1: to that offense is so quarterback friendly, and uh, maybe 1270 01:05:33,200 --> 01:05:35,800 Speaker 1: they don't have players at the wide receiver spot that 1271 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 1: are necessarily quarterback friendly in San Francisco right now. But 1272 01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:44,480 Speaker 1: I do believe that Mitch Robinsky has physical attributes and 1273 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,360 Speaker 1: play attributes. It could, you know, lend themselves to being 1274 01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,080 Speaker 1: a pretty good quarterback in the league. But I mean 1275 01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,600 Speaker 1: it's a it's a big jump with any of these guys. Well, 1276 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,840 Speaker 1: you have one other quarterback in your top ten right now, 1277 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: another big jump. Frankly, Deshaun Watson, who we saw play 1278 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 1: so well in the National Championship game with MS and 1279 01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,560 Speaker 1: you haven't go to the Bills attend um, how confident 1280 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 1: argue that he's gonna be a front Well, you have 1281 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: him attend so he must be somewhat confident, But that 1282 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: that he's a first round talent. No, I'm not confident 1283 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 1: at all. I mean, I'm just trying to project what 1284 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 1: a team might do. I think Doug Whaley might take 1285 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 1: a shot based on uh their decision and what they're 1286 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:24,560 Speaker 1: gonna do with Tyrod Taylor obviously, but I'm not real confident. Look, 1287 01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. There's a lot of check marks for intangibles, 1288 01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:30,600 Speaker 1: for playing in the clutch, for a lot of things 1289 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,400 Speaker 1: that NFL teams hate to try to buy into too much. 1290 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: Because that's what you did with Vince Young, that's what 1291 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,160 Speaker 1: you did with Johnny Menzel, you started Tim Tebow. There's 1292 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,439 Speaker 1: been a lot of guys drafted early because they all 1293 01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,720 Speaker 1: they did was win, and they were very clutch, and 1294 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 1: they stepped up in big games. And you know, it's 1295 01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:47,080 Speaker 1: it's really not what you do in the big games. 1296 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 1: It's what you do in the second quarter, um down. 1297 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:54,160 Speaker 1: You know, when you're down thirteen points and you really 1298 01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,120 Speaker 1: need a drive and you need to take care of 1299 01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:58,720 Speaker 1: the football. It's it's what you do. It's what you 1300 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,080 Speaker 1: do from the twenty to the town that really matters. 1301 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,560 Speaker 1: And I just Deshaun Watson can be a little up 1302 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 1: and down. Frankly, he gives the ball away way too easily. 1303 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 1: I mean, the turnovers are just some of his turnovers 1304 01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,800 Speaker 1: are just terrible. Trabinsky, you know, bringing it back to 1305 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:16,919 Speaker 1: him this week, listening to some of the reports out 1306 01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:20,479 Speaker 1: there that you know from Michael Silver, the Browns don't 1307 01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:23,000 Speaker 1: necessarily think, you know, they would love to get the 1308 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,320 Speaker 1: defensive tackle at one, and then they're not necessarily they 1309 01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:30,320 Speaker 1: don't necessarily think that their quarterback will be there at twelve. 1310 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,120 Speaker 1: And then we're hearing another Cleveland report that's like they're 1311 01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:35,800 Speaker 1: thinking about Trabisky for number one. It sure makes it 1312 01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 1: seem like and it's not like a secret. I think 1313 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:40,400 Speaker 1: that that that the Browns that this is the guy 1314 01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 1: that they think could fit them, and he kind of 1315 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: fits the mold of what Hugh has liked. So even 1316 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 1: though that everyone said, and it's a carbon copy of 1317 01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 1: last year, well, we don't know if there's you know, 1318 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:56,919 Speaker 1: necessarily top five quarterbacks in this draft. Doesn't that mean 1319 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: with the forty niners there are two and the Bills 1320 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: that ten, that that that these guys get get pushed up? Yeah, 1321 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,560 Speaker 1: And that's what I did in my mock. I pushed 1322 01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,760 Speaker 1: up is what I did. I mean, I understand that 1323 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Mittro biscuits a little bit early. I think that's a 1324 01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:12,520 Speaker 1: lot early compared to you know, the teams I've talked to. 1325 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 1: I don't know that any of them really have a 1326 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,599 Speaker 1: headed into this. Have a first round grade on Deshaun 1327 01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,559 Speaker 1: Watson if you really want to know the truth. But 1328 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 1: I also know that he should come here, he should 1329 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 1: work out well, he should interview well. Um, although I 1330 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 1: was told he's not gonna be as fast as we think, 1331 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 1: I was told he's gonna run. We take a guess. 1332 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 1: Take a guess what you think, h Deshaun Watson, We've 1333 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 1: all watched the said, I don't think it's gonna be 1334 01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:44,920 Speaker 1: tampered with the Jerry past I'll go four. The number 1335 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:49,400 Speaker 1: that I saw the the offshore number is four six eight, 1336 01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,919 Speaker 1: which I feel like he's a round of four fives. 1337 01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:55,880 Speaker 1: I've been told he's gonna run about a four seven five, 1338 01:08:56,560 --> 01:09:00,439 Speaker 1: which seems way slower than what I'm seeing on television. UM, 1339 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,200 Speaker 1: just bouncing around a little bit here at a few 1340 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,679 Speaker 1: minutes that we have here. So Myles Garrett, everyone seems 1341 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,880 Speaker 1: to think that, you know, a lot of people believe 1342 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 1: he will go number one. You have him go number one. 1343 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:12,639 Speaker 1: I think he's clearly the best talent. Is he does 1344 01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:14,880 Speaker 1: he have the Is he the type of special player 1345 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:16,920 Speaker 1: I can have, like a how Joey Bosa had like 1346 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,000 Speaker 1: an immediate impact in the NFL. Is he a guy 1347 01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,880 Speaker 1: that can be a Pro Bowl star next year? Well, 1348 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 1: if he's playing for Cleveland, I don't know, but I 1349 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 1: do think that he might not be a great fit there, 1350 01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 1: which is interesting. Yeah, I think he fits anywhere. He's 1351 01:09:29,080 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 1: big enough to play. Look, he's way bigger than people realize. 1352 01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,480 Speaker 1: People are where. You know, they have Courtney Brown nightmares. 1353 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,639 Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I my dad was there 1354 01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,600 Speaker 1: when they were picking. Uh. I mean they passed on 1355 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: Richard Seymour for Gerard Warren. They had decided the night 1356 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:47,080 Speaker 1: before that Richard Seymour was to pick. They went home 1357 01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,679 Speaker 1: because that's when the draft was on Saturday, the first 1358 01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,479 Speaker 1: round and second third. I can't remember. I think that 1359 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:53,679 Speaker 1: I broke out. My dad said. When they got back 1360 01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,200 Speaker 1: to the facility in Cleveland, they said, hey, we changed 1361 01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,479 Speaker 1: your mind. We're going with Gerard big money Warren like 1362 01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:02,840 Speaker 1: oh and the rest of Cleveland Brown's history. But um, 1363 01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 1: I think he fits anywhere. And he Yeah, he has 1364 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 1: immediate impact. He has Julius Pepper's ability. He has immediate 1365 01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,200 Speaker 1: impact ability without question. And people are gonna pick at 1366 01:10:11,240 --> 01:10:13,599 Speaker 1: his stats because he doesn't have a lot of sacks 1367 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 1: against inferior competition. But I mean, this guy was getting 1368 01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:21,000 Speaker 1: pressure on the quarterback like crazy as a freshman, as 1369 01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:25,120 Speaker 1: a sophomore, he's gotten bigger, more physical. He's he's really 1370 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,880 Speaker 1: got a chance to be a special player. But it's 1371 01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: not now. He's not a lock, you know, you'd like 1372 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,439 Speaker 1: to see. There's still some issues in some areas where 1373 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,599 Speaker 1: he needs to work on, including his hand usage, because 1374 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 1: you can't just out athlete everyone in the NFL. It's 1375 01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:37,519 Speaker 1: it's just not gonna work that way. Who do you 1376 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:42,000 Speaker 1: think or where do you think that Sean Kaiser, who 1377 01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:44,479 Speaker 1: today kind of some news was made of John Lynch 1378 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,400 Speaker 1: said he you know, he blew the doors off the 1379 01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:48,840 Speaker 1: interview and he sounds like, you know, from what I 1380 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:51,240 Speaker 1: know that he's gonna be that sort of guy that 1381 01:10:51,320 --> 01:10:53,160 Speaker 1: once you get him in front of team, they're all 1382 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,400 Speaker 1: kind of fall in love. Well, he needs to blow 1383 01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,799 Speaker 1: the doors off of completion percentages too, because those doors 1384 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,400 Speaker 1: have been firmly closed. Was on him. Based on what 1385 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 1: I saw this year, it was it was a disappointing 1386 01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:05,559 Speaker 1: year for Kaiser. To me, I thought he had all 1387 01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 1: kinds of potential. He's got great NFL size. I think 1388 01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 1: he looks like Steve McNair looked when he came out 1389 01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:14,400 Speaker 1: for the Houston Oilers at that time, and uh, but 1390 01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:17,920 Speaker 1: his his play, it wasn't there. That's not who he was. 1391 01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: So he is a guy. Though. If if teams fall 1392 01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:22,400 Speaker 1: in love with a player and they feel like he 1393 01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,920 Speaker 1: has an in factor behind the scenes, those guys can 1394 01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,479 Speaker 1: get pushed up. Daniel Jeremiah forever has had Deshaun Kaiser 1395 01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,920 Speaker 1: up there pretty high now. He also we watched the 1396 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:34,120 Speaker 1: University of Texas and Notre damey game together. DJ was 1397 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,759 Speaker 1: just on cloud nine because that was his upset special 1398 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,960 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner. So Kaiser comes out with five touchdowns 1399 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,760 Speaker 1: in the first game and he's like, I told you 1400 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,640 Speaker 1: I knew it, and I knew it. So I feel like, 1401 01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:48,800 Speaker 1: maybe DJ not biased. Are you sensing what I'm sensing here? 1402 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:51,960 Speaker 1: That that you know there's been some heat between Move 1403 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,800 Speaker 1: the Sticks and and our podcast that it's that it's 1404 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,479 Speaker 1: shared here by Lance more heat for Daniel Jeremiah. Daviel 1405 01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:00,800 Speaker 1: is gonna take shot. He takes I don't want to 1406 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 1: say this, but listen. So We're in the press box 1407 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,639 Speaker 1: up in Austin and I'll never forget this. He turns 1408 01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 1: to me, he goes, hey, you listen to uh around 1409 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,760 Speaker 1: the league, and I'm like a t L. Yeah, I 1410 01:12:11,800 --> 01:12:14,640 Speaker 1: said why, Yeah, of course I do. And he's like 1411 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,400 Speaker 1: why and I said, well, I mean why would I not? 1412 01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 1: And he just said, I mean I'm just asking. I mean, 1413 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 1: do do you get anything from it? And I said, yeah, 1414 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean I think it's it's snappy. I said, it's quirky, 1415 01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:29,080 Speaker 1: it's it's got some fun tidbits and bits of information 1416 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:33,519 Speaker 1: and some pop culture references. It's like, keep going and 1417 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,800 Speaker 1: I said, I mean it's I said, not learn anything 1418 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,080 Speaker 1: about football. He said, you know, I listened to it 1419 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:43,360 Speaker 1: on long cross country trips and uh, Daniel said, and 1420 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:45,920 Speaker 1: I'll never forget this. He said to me, you know, 1421 01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:49,439 Speaker 1: books on tape also are good to listen to. And 1422 01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:51,840 Speaker 1: I just and from there, I was just like all 1423 01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:55,160 Speaker 1: I thought was there must be something here. You know what, 1424 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,800 Speaker 1: Now that I have this story, said I need to 1425 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,640 Speaker 1: that's it. I'm going to do it. I declare vengeance. 1426 01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:10,560 Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah. How long ago was this? Uh? Early September, 1427 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,840 Speaker 1: but he reiterated in October like you're still It was 1428 01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:15,840 Speaker 1: a text exchange, like you're not listening And I was 1429 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,599 Speaker 1: like no, I said, I switched to books on tape, 1430 01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 1: but I really didn't. It's so much more real now 1431 01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:25,200 Speaker 1: that we have a story that doesn't involve us that 1432 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 1: it's it's really in his mind. It's there. Um all right. 1433 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 1: We wish we had more time with Mr Zerline because 1434 01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:35,600 Speaker 1: he is again one of the top draft minds, I 1435 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:39,720 Speaker 1: like to say, and one of Houston's native sons. Uh. 1436 01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:42,439 Speaker 1: Check out all stuff at NFL dot com. He's also 1437 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 1: on Sports Talk seven ninety in Houston. We actually did 1438 01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 1: our podcast at the super Bowl from the very place 1439 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:55,000 Speaker 1: from your computer. I got to keep the smelled glorious 1440 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:58,120 Speaker 1: in there. It smelled like greatness. So Lance, thank you 1441 01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:02,400 Speaker 1: for stopping by. And uh, you know DJ listen, j 1442 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:07,280 Speaker 1: Bury the hatchet guys. Yeah, it's uncomfortable. It's a tough situation. 1443 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:09,679 Speaker 1: And and thank you for giving us a little more insight. 1444 01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,479 Speaker 1: So we're up against here. We gotta have lands back 1445 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,719 Speaker 1: on throughout the draft season. Absolutely need the help. Please 1446 01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:18,679 Speaker 1: come back on. That's ah, that's it for today's show. 1447 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,000 Speaker 1: Thank you to everyone for listening. Thank you so many, 1448 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:26,000 Speaker 1: so many luminaries on today's show, Kevin, Patrick, Connor, Or 1449 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,840 Speaker 1: West and Sessed kissing cousins uh and of course the 1450 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:32,439 Speaker 1: great Land zero Line. We will be back three shows 1451 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:36,360 Speaker 1: next week as free agency is upon us, so make 1452 01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,920 Speaker 1: sure you check that out until then. Just Dan Hanson 1453 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,679 Speaker 1: signed off for all those great men I just mentioned, Greg, 1454 01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,200 Speaker 1: it's time to go home. Let's do it. Let's go home, right, 1455 01:14:47,479 --> 01:15:14,160 Speaker 1: We're out of here till my day, all right. I 1456 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,360 Speaker 1: know Dan just mentioned that the show was ending, but 1457 01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,920 Speaker 1: it is not ending because West and I we got 1458 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 1: kind of squeezed into the back end of that show. 1459 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:22,960 Speaker 1: We're going out like that. Not at all. We need, 1460 01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,439 Speaker 1: we deserve are the two of us certainly deserve more 1461 01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,120 Speaker 1: time on any episode of the Around the NFL Podcast. 1462 01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:30,519 Speaker 1: But we thought that we would do something special and 1463 01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,719 Speaker 1: bring on not only someone who listens to every episode 1464 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL Podcast, but someone who has 1465 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,839 Speaker 1: her own show on NFL Network. That's Good Morning Football 1466 01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,760 Speaker 1: Monday through Friday. Kay Adams is with us. How you 1467 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:47,920 Speaker 1: doing first time appearance on this show? Now? Is it true? 1468 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,720 Speaker 1: Do you actually listen to the show where you don't 1469 01:15:49,720 --> 01:15:51,760 Speaker 1: have to you don't have to just be nice? Oh 1470 01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:53,840 Speaker 1: my god, I love the show. I love that you're 1471 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:57,800 Speaker 1: like I love Scorn Browns fan. You understand my Chicago Bears, Dellan, 1472 01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,920 Speaker 1: We've got hands in the jet. I want to go 1473 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,719 Speaker 1: have a deer with Chessler in Manhattan Beach, California. Of course, 1474 01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:05,439 Speaker 1: I Bengo. Well, what we thought we could see. Initially 1475 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 1: we thought we would bring you on and talk combine 1476 01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:09,240 Speaker 1: and stuff. But again we were West and I this 1477 01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 1: is a slight and we're very upset. We were squeezed 1478 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:14,439 Speaker 1: into a minor portion of the program. So what we're 1479 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:16,960 Speaker 1: gonna do with you is we're gonna ask twelve questions. 1480 01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:20,000 Speaker 1: And they're not all you know, some of them are. 1481 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:21,680 Speaker 1: They're going to be all over the map. You can 1482 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,240 Speaker 1: answer them anyway that you want. Okay, shall we get going. 1483 01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 1: Don't ask you about hips. And these are basically questions 1484 01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:32,680 Speaker 1: that are based on your opinions. So you you'll I 1485 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:34,760 Speaker 1: think you'll be all right here. All right, let's do it. 1486 01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:37,639 Speaker 1: Let's get to know okay Adams, good morning football. Let's 1487 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,760 Speaker 1: kick it off. All right, Let's start her favorite cocktail. Um, 1488 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,320 Speaker 1: I would say Tito's vodka and water to one we 1489 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,479 Speaker 1: get along with Dan Hansen's. That's Dan's drink, Tito's and bucka. 1490 01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 1: That's a good answer. Okay, how about this favorite month 1491 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,519 Speaker 1: of the year for my birthday? All right? How about this, yes, 1492 01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:04,160 Speaker 1: or no aliens exist? Oh man? Uh no, No, I 1493 01:17:04,280 --> 01:17:06,960 Speaker 1: never even thought about it. Scares me, so I hope. Now, 1494 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:10,639 Speaker 1: all right, that's good. Now, your name K essentially it's 1495 01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, spelled K A Y. But some people could 1496 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,120 Speaker 1: say it's just sort of a letter. What would you 1497 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 1: if you had to pick a different letter to be 1498 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,599 Speaker 1: your name, like B Adams or H Adams? What letter 1499 01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 1: would you would you pick? Um? I would pick L 1500 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,840 Speaker 1: because it was the same thing I could do E 1501 01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:29,200 Speaker 1: L L E E L. There's the L train, there's 1502 01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 1: the L line here in New York. Class of L. 1503 01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:34,200 Speaker 1: Let's go to L. Very logical. I like that. Do 1504 01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:41,799 Speaker 1: you trust the Central Intelligence Agency? Um? No? Another answer? 1505 01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,840 Speaker 1: Good answer us for questions, I have no idea what 1506 01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:47,599 Speaker 1: you're asking. We go, we're halfway through, We're almost out 1507 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,760 Speaker 1: of the woods here. Let's say that you committed a 1508 01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,600 Speaker 1: major crime and had to hide away for you know, 1509 01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,120 Speaker 1: roughly ten years in a foreign country. You cannot leave 1510 01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,479 Speaker 1: that country under any circumstance. What country would you pick? 1511 01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:03,519 Speaker 1: Italy specifically Florence. Find me count out under the Duomo. 1512 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,800 Speaker 1: That's a good, good place for criminals. How about this 1513 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:11,719 Speaker 1: great pizza to more attractive Chris Westling or Greg Rosenthal. 1514 01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,880 Speaker 1: Uh Mark like that answer, You're doing excellent so far. 1515 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,280 Speaker 1: You can only eat one food for the next year. 1516 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 1: You can pick colon, hard boiled eggs heavily dipped in mayonnaise, 1517 01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:26,200 Speaker 1: or beef jerky the only food that you can eat 1518 01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:28,960 Speaker 1: for the next year. I've never out that I've ever 1519 01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:33,559 Speaker 1: had actual mannaise. I've ever had either of those. Well, 1520 01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:37,360 Speaker 1: this would be in a new adventure, Like they're doing 1521 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,720 Speaker 1: great things with beat jerky these days West Europe. Jerky guy, 1522 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,040 Speaker 1: it looks disgusting. Then you go to the gas station 1523 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,320 Speaker 1: and you sometimes see one that's like wrapped in like 1524 01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,360 Speaker 1: a like a stream cheese thing, and you're like, why 1525 01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:51,360 Speaker 1: isn't this refrigerated? How is this allowed to be out here? 1526 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 1: It's it's slightly overrated. I had plenty of beef jerky 1527 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 1: during my time in Georgia and it's just dried out meat, 1528 01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,320 Speaker 1: which I mean, we're not Eskimo. What are we doing here? Well, 1529 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,639 Speaker 1: why are you putting mannais out of my hard boiled eggs? 1530 01:19:03,720 --> 01:19:05,880 Speaker 1: I start my every day with hard boiled eggs. How 1531 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,120 Speaker 1: can you be giving me the option? Well, because I'm 1532 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:12,200 Speaker 1: getting you're going to serve it to me with manonnaise, 1533 01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:13,760 Speaker 1: and I'm going to be like the five year olds 1534 01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,680 Speaker 1: who's taking it off on the plate and removing all 1535 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,640 Speaker 1: of it and then I'll eat it. All right, Well 1536 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,280 Speaker 1: I think with that, I mean, I don't think that 1537 01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,639 Speaker 1: I'll be serving it to you day after day. Necessarily 1538 01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to also food prepare yourself. But so 1539 01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 1: you can, you can add as much or a little 1540 01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 1: mannaise as you want. Eggs. How about this, you have 1541 01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:37,559 Speaker 1: to own either ten dogs or ten cats and dogs cats. Yeah, 1542 01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't trust cats. I don't trust people. I don't 1543 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 1: say yeah, I don't. I don't trust men that owned cats. 1544 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,960 Speaker 1: But in general cats are very suspicious. Luke Skywalker or 1545 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:53,240 Speaker 1: Han Solo? Um, I hate Come on, Luke Skywalkers whiney 1546 01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:58,240 Speaker 1: and he didn't sufferable Han Solo? All right, that's that's 1547 01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,479 Speaker 1: that's fair. In your next life, if you can be 1548 01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:03,120 Speaker 1: either Kyle Brandt or Peter Schraeger, who do you pick? 1549 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:08,840 Speaker 1: And why? Oh my god, answer either of those guys. 1550 01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,519 Speaker 1: They can have each other. And going Nate, you've you've 1551 01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,200 Speaker 1: dodged this one well, and our last question. You know 1552 01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 1: you've been on the earth for a while. Who would 1553 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,840 Speaker 1: you consider to be your hero? I went on the 1554 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:23,559 Speaker 1: air for my hero is my well, my career. I 1555 01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:26,640 Speaker 1: like that. Okay, well that's well. We'll have you on 1556 01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 1: for a bona fide real segment in the middle of 1557 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:32,800 Speaker 1: a podcast later on this offseason if you if you're willing. 1558 01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,200 Speaker 1: They were just they were just opening for we. We 1559 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,760 Speaker 1: we were the opening apps. They were you know, they 1560 01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,599 Speaker 1: were warminguts up for that moment. That's that's how I feel. 1561 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:42,920 Speaker 1: It was a seventy five minute build up to this, 1562 01:20:43,160 --> 01:20:47,719 Speaker 1: and uh we thank the listeners for sticking around. Thanks guy, 1563 01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:52,120 Speaker 1: all right, thank you. Thanks in York absolutely, farewell. Good