WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema Rewind: Psychomania

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema rewind.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>we are bringing you a classic. This is one of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite older episodes of the show. It is psychomania.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a genre better than supernatural biker films?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure that there is, and this says within

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<v Speaker 1>that subgenre, one of, if not the absolute best.

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<v Speaker 3>I smell exhaust, the hot breath of devils in the

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<v Speaker 3>fog of dawn, the noise of a great cat purring

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<v Speaker 3>underneath the earth and mound They're waking up. Can you

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<v Speaker 3>see it through the mist? Pale sprigs of mistletoe entwined

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<v Speaker 3>with greasy drive chains. The high Priest watches his reflection

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<v Speaker 3>stretch to absurdity across the curve of the mirrored chrome.

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<v Speaker 3>He is as tall as the cliffs. He is as

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<v Speaker 3>long as the worm of dreams. The purring of the

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<v Speaker 3>cat grows deafening. The Priest's grin is wild. With that

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<v Speaker 3>twist of his hand, flexing the wrist. Is he wringing

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<v Speaker 3>a hen's neck to adorn the altar of spring? Or

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<v Speaker 3>is this the spell that brings the iron hog to life?

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Rob Lamb and I'm Joe McCormick and Rob.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited today. I'm so excited because you out there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if you've been listening to Weird House Cinema

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<v Speaker 2>that we love our employe genre crossover films. One of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite examples we've done so far is the niche

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<v Speaker 2>subgenre represented by our back catalog entry Santo and The

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<v Speaker 2>Treasure of Dracula. Of course that would be the supernatural

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling film. Well, today we're finally doing a supernatural biker film,

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<v Speaker 2>a niche subgenre that really holds a strong, powerful revving

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<v Speaker 2>place in my heart. It gets my motor running. I

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<v Speaker 2>love it. I love it. I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this one, this one is a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And it'd been on my list to watch for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you've been talking about it for years, and

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<v Speaker 1>we occasionally talk about biker films and supernatural biker films,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had not actually watched it till this week,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was just a total delight, just such a

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<v Speaker 1>wonderfully weird film and delightfully so.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you have seen other supernatural biker movies, right, like

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen were Wolves on Wheels.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, were Wolves on Wheels a very American supernatural

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<v Speaker 1>biker film from the the same time period. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is a very British film we're talking about here today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, were Rolls on Wheels is a grosser, sweatier,

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<v Speaker 2>more guttural American western style supernatural biker film. This supernatural

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<v Speaker 2>biker film is a bit more tweedy, and I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know has the English morning fog on its back today.

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<v Speaker 2>The movie we're talking about is the nineteen seventy three

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<v Speaker 2>British supernatural biker movie Psychomania aka The Death Wheelers. And

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<v Speaker 2>so whenever you have a great genre crossover movie, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to identify, like what are the mainstreams feeding into this?

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<v Speaker 2>And Robie, if you disagree, let me know. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think the main two things we're getting as inputs here are,

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<v Speaker 2>on one hand, outlaw biker movies, which we can talk

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<v Speaker 2>about in a little more detail in a minute, And

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<v Speaker 2>then the other hand would be like British witchcraft horror

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<v Speaker 2>films a lah the Hammer horror movies of the late

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<v Speaker 2>sixties and early seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I think those are probably the two primary influences.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's also worth noting the Avengers DNA.

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<v Speaker 1>In this we have some people connected to The Avengers

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<v Speaker 1>and the Avengers. If you're not familiar with the Avengers

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<v Speaker 1>TV show, A, it was pretty fun, but B it

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<v Speaker 1>also would. It generally featured this sort of idea of

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<v Speaker 1>contemporary weirdness in the world, not unlike what the X

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<v Speaker 1>Files would do later, and I think there is a

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<v Speaker 1>hint of that in this film.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I didn't think about that input at all because

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<v Speaker 2>I've never actually seen The Avengers, though I know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. This is very different than Marvel's The Avengers.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the British TV show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the one that was eventually made into one of

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Connery's last films, if not his last film, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the last films. They tried to do a reboot

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<v Speaker 1>of it decades ago and it was not successful, but

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<v Speaker 1>the original TV series was often a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Another way of thinking about this movie is, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>if you got the precedent of where Will was on

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<v Speaker 2>wheels in America, this is sort of like druid Lich

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<v Speaker 2>Kings on wheels, like Undead stone hinge magic demons revving

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<v Speaker 2>their engines and uh and and doing all the outlaw

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<v Speaker 2>biker stuff, but from beyond the grave.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, now. I often turned to Michael Weldon's psychotronic video

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<v Speaker 1>guides for a little guidance in the films that we

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<v Speaker 1>we we we we turned to UH. Sometimes I discover

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<v Speaker 1>a film by looking at his work. Other times we'll

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be thinking about one and I'll see what he

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<v Speaker 1>had to say about it. I'm not going to read

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<v Speaker 1>his entire mini review for this one, but it but

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<v Speaker 1>one of He basically kicks off his review of Psychomania

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<v Speaker 1>by saying incredible. To say the.

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<v Speaker 2>Least, I disagree. I think it's quite credible. I would

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<v Speaker 2>let this co sign on a loan.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to I want to put a note

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<v Speaker 1>about the title. So I think we already alluded to

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that it was also released as The Death Wheelers,

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<v Speaker 1>which in some ways is a better title for the film.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Death Wheelers, it's you know, death and motorcycles. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not actually sure what Psychomania means in context of this film,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wonder if the title situation here it might

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<v Speaker 1>have to do with the fact that there was another

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<v Speaker 1>film titled Psychomania that was released in nineteen sixty three,

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<v Speaker 1>so ten years earlier, also known as Violent Midnight, who

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<v Speaker 1>was directed by the guy who wrote Horror at Party Beach.

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<v Speaker 1>That nineteen sixty three movie is just a murder picture.

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<v Speaker 1>The nineteen seventy three Psychomania is so much more. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is definitely the film we're talking about here today,

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<v Speaker 1>a supernatural biker film.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I guess we need to dwell on the

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<v Speaker 2>concept of a biker film for a moment, because before

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<v Speaker 2>you had supernatural biker films, you just had the biker

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<v Speaker 2>genre as a sort of fad movie genre in the

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<v Speaker 2>fifties through the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I guess more specifically, so boy, a biguess.

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<v Speaker 1>A big thing here is that, first of all, motorcyclecles

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<v Speaker 1>are not inherently one thing or another, and a motorcycle

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<v Speaker 1>enthusiast are not inherently one thing or the other. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have motorcyclists, you have motorcycle clubs. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>also have this area that is often referred to as

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<v Speaker 1>the outlaw motorcycle club, and that is generally what is

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<v Speaker 1>dwelt upon in films such.

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<v Speaker 2>As these, right, I mean I'd say for the same

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<v Speaker 2>reason that there are more movies about bank robbers than

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<v Speaker 2>there are about accountants right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Outlaw motorcycle clubs began to form in the late nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>forties in the Western United States, and over time motorcycle

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<v Speaker 1>club culture, outlaw or non outlaw, has spread around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's quite fascinating because what we have here is

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<v Speaker 1>an American subculture, and in the cases of outlaw motorcycle

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<v Speaker 1>gangs and often criminal subculture, that ends up just resonating

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<v Speaker 1>around the world, finding slightly different forms in different cultures,

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<v Speaker 1>inspiring fiction, inspiring myth and then also in turn you

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<v Speaker 1>have the reality of motorcycle clubs and outlaw motorcycle clubs

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<v Speaker 1>fed by fiction and myth. So we end up with

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<v Speaker 1>a number of different variations of the mythic outlaw motorcyclist.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we have the noble outlaw, the scoundrel, the

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<v Speaker 1>sort of anti hippie, the rebellious youth, the rebel without

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<v Speaker 1>a cause, etc. So, as far as outlaw biker films go,

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<v Speaker 1>we certainly don't have time to list them all here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to mention just some of the big ones,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the precursors to Psychomania. Now, yeah, the first

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<v Speaker 1>big one, of course, is nineteen fifty three's The Wild

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<v Speaker 1>Ones starring Marlon Brando. Even if you haven't seen this film,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have to admit I've never watched The Wild One,

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen the title, you've seen the cover, you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>stills from this or maybe even seen a clip from it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's generally critically well received. It was highly influential, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course a lot of low budget exploitation films came

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<v Speaker 1>in its wake, just for just for decades like this

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<v Speaker 1>was a big film. But yeah, by the time you

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<v Speaker 1>get into the sixties, you have the counterculture, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot going on. Obviously during the nineteen sixties, also

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<v Speaker 1>have Hunter S. Thompson's book Hell's Angels coming out, which

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<v Speaker 1>details his, you know, sort of gonzo journalism experience with

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<v Speaker 1>the Notorious Motorcycle Club, and then a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>comes in the wake of that. You have Russ Meyer's

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<v Speaker 1>Motorcycle in nineteen sixty five, I think that was actually

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<v Speaker 1>before Thompson's book. But then you get The Wild Angels

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty six by Roger Corman. This one is

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<v Speaker 1>I actually watch part of this one. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>has a great cast. You've got Peter Fonda, Nancy Sinatra,

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Dern, Diane Ladd. Definitely a precursor to Easy Writer

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<v Speaker 1>because it involves some of the same people. And then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you get Easy Writer in nineteen sixty nine, a highly

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<v Speaker 1>influential hippie biker film directed by Dennis Hopper. Terrific film,

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<v Speaker 1>Easy Writer. But you might be asking, well, these are

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<v Speaker 1>all American films. When do the British films come in? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you have some notable entries in the British biker film

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<v Speaker 1>bucket of content. You have The Leather Boys from nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty four, The Girl on a Motorcycle from sixty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as some early forays into horror hybrid biker films,

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<v Speaker 1>such as The Black Rider in nineteen fifty four. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, you might be I haven't seen this one yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think maybe it does. I mean, it does

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<v Speaker 1>have a motorcyclist in it. I don't know how motorcycle

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<v Speaker 1>club the elements there are. But then there's also a

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<v Speaker 1>sixty three film called The Damned which has some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of motorcyclist element to it as well. But then by

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies, Basically, we've had so many biker films

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<v Speaker 1>come out that you see this need to create new

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<v Speaker 1>twists on the genre. You can't just put out a

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<v Speaker 1>biker film, you know, you can't just say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>they're bad boys out there riding around on bikes. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>how bad are they? Could they be supernaturally bad? And

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<v Speaker 1>that's where we get stuff like seventy ones wear Wolves

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<v Speaker 1>on Wheels or seventy two's Blood Freak, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>this is later and this comes after the time period

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about. But I bought a vampire motorcycle from

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't know that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking. It looks good. I believe that one's British,

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<v Speaker 1>so I may have to investigate further. But today's picture

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<v Speaker 1>might well be considered the supernatural biker film par excellence. Uh. This,

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<v Speaker 1>this really takes the cake.

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<v Speaker 2>Without a doubt. If you want to watch supernatural biker

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<v Speaker 2>horror movies, I think you should start with Psychomania.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and really, I feel like with biker fiction in general,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of ebbs and flows. Right. A few years back,

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<v Speaker 1>we had that fairly long running Sons of Anarchy series,

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<v Speaker 1>which I ended up watching all of.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's it's it's entertaining. It's uh, it's an interesting Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an interesting show. It's it's it has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of cheesy elements. It has a lot of elements that

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<v Speaker 1>or maybe in questionable taste, okay at the time and

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<v Speaker 1>certainly by today's standards, but uh, it had a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things going for it, like essentially trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>a motorcycle gang story that is shakespearean influence story at

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<v Speaker 1>least shakespeare light in its.

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<v Speaker 2>Creation, so which Shakespeare was based on you.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, well, the basic bones of it. They tried to

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<v Speaker 1>set up a Hamlet thing like young what's his name, Charlie, Charlie,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Hanman.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know the guy Charlie Hunhum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes him, Yes, okay, Yeah, he's basically Hamlet. They set

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<v Speaker 1>that up, is like he is the Hamlet of this

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<v Speaker 1>biker scenario. And they but they don't try and like

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<v Speaker 1>actually hit all the story beats of Hamlet exactly, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they throw a little bit of Macbeth in there.

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<v Speaker 1>At times. It's amusing, Okay, but I'm ready for the

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<v Speaker 1>needle to come back to supernatural biker films. That's where

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<v Speaker 1>we need to go. If they want to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>sons of anarchy thing going that make it, vampires make it?

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<v Speaker 1>Where bring that? Bring that back in? That's that's my

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<v Speaker 1>two cents.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what has there been lately that really counts? I

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<v Speaker 2>guess there's like the what's that super hero who's like

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<v Speaker 2>a supernatural biker? Oh Night, Nicholas Cage, Nicholas Cauche Night

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<v Speaker 2>Night Right, ghost Rider, ghost Right Ghostrider?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not not right. That's that's a different thing altogether.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen any of those except that first movie

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<v Speaker 2>with Nicholas Cage, which I recall being hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Peter Fonda shows up in one of those,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh does he Yeah, yeah, that that sort.

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<v Speaker 2>Of rings a bell. Maybe it was in that first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a fun inclusion. It's thoughtful to include Peter

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<v Speaker 1>Fonda in it.

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<v Speaker 2>The main thing I remember about that one is that

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<v Speaker 2>the that kid who's in American Beauty is the villain

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<v Speaker 2>in it, and he's some kind of monster And there's

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<v Speaker 2>a part where he's like in the middle of the

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<v Speaker 2>desert and he just walks right up to the camera

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<v Speaker 2>and looks into the camera and goes, Yeah, he like

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<v Speaker 2>opens his mouth and a bunch of teeth and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>come out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that sounds great. I'm sure that character will be back,

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<v Speaker 1>though they'll they'll create some other what do we say

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<v Speaker 1>his name was death not death Writer, night Writer.

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<v Speaker 2>Night Writer, ghostwriter, ghost rider. Yes, all right, Well, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can't figure out the elevator pitch based on everything

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<v Speaker 2>we've already said, I don't know how much help we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be other than the lich King rides. It's

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<v Speaker 2>that undead bikers.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go ahead and listen to the trailer, and I think,

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<v Speaker 1>like last week, we might just let the trailer play

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<v Speaker 1>in its entirety because it's wonderful. It's a same year

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<v Speaker 1>as last week selection, so it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 6>They were just ordinary troublemakers as long as they lived,

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<v Speaker 6>but they returned from beyond the grave with superhuman powers,

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<v Speaker 6>unleashing an unholy reign of terror that holds an entire

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<v Speaker 6>community in the grip of psychomania.

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<v Speaker 5>Psychomania everybody dies, stand there, some come back.

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<v Speaker 2>How do the dead come back?

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<v Speaker 3>Mother?

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<v Speaker 7>When you die, you've got to believe that you're going

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<v Speaker 7>to come back.

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<v Speaker 5>Have you kill yourself?

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<v Speaker 7>That's right off a great I'm dying.

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<v Speaker 5>You can only die once after that nothing and nobody

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<v Speaker 5>can harm you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, what are you waiting for?

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<v Speaker 7>You must stop him?

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<v Speaker 4>You can't.

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<v Speaker 7>I must.

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<v Speaker 6>Psychoma what happened?

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<v Speaker 2>You're not dead, That's what I.

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<v Speaker 7>Was trying to tell you. I don't want to die

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<v Speaker 7>good after them.

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<v Speaker 6>And you know what you will become, yes, and that

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<v Speaker 6>it will be for all eternity, because.

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<v Speaker 5>You can only die once. After that, nothing and nobody

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<v Speaker 5>can harm you Psychomedia.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing about this movie is it's just so British.

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<v Speaker 2>It has this film of Britishness all over it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it just smells like baked beans. Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>a it's a can of Heinz baked beans driving a

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<v Speaker 2>motorcycle through a roundabout. And and it's also got that

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful like the inter cutting between the the violent manic

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<v Speaker 2>parts on the road where they're out, you know, riding around,

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<v Speaker 2>harassing motorists and all that on the motorway, and then

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<v Speaker 2>and then contrasting that with the indoor scenes where like

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<v Speaker 2>they go to a pub or they go into somebody's house,

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<v Speaker 2>and it has this amazing quaint stuffiness of early seventies Britain. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's yeah, it's it's just tremendous.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's an interesting twist if you've if you're used

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<v Speaker 1>to seeing mostly American biker films, there are any biker

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<v Speaker 1>film is going to have scenes where the bikers are

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<v Speaker 1>messing with the squares. But yes, more often than not

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<v Speaker 1>in your American biker films, these are taking place in

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<v Speaker 1>rural situations, you know, say, like a gas station often.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's often, you know, very rural individuals who are

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<v Speaker 1>bedeviled by the bikers. And in this case we get

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<v Speaker 1>just it's not even like rural Britain person. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not London obviously, but it's you know, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's in town or it's you know, on the street

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding town. But it's the British way of life that

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<v Speaker 1>is threatened by the bikers as opposed to the like

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<v Speaker 1>American Midwest, you know, or sort of desert community kind

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<v Speaker 1>of vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I'm not sure, but I think it's supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be a town in the southwest of England. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's supposed to be a town in like Wiltshire or something.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'm saying that right, Wiltshire, Wiltshire,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever it is, But yeah, there. There is a thing

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<v Speaker 2>that definitely that they do in this movie that a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of outlaw biker movies have to do, even non

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<v Speaker 2>super natural, utterly mundane outlaw biker movies, have to have

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<v Speaker 2>a scene of the bikers riding around knocking things over

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<v Speaker 2>in some public place, And in this movie they do

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<v Speaker 2>it in a grocery store, and they do it in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of a town square, which makes me wonder

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<v Speaker 2>was it actually a common occurrence for outlaw biker gangs

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<v Speaker 2>at the time and I don't know, the early seventies

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<v Speaker 2>to just ride around in public places knocking things over,

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<v Speaker 2>saying that shouldn't be upright and I'll make it sideways.

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<v Speaker 2>Or is this merely symbolic, like a way of showing

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<v Speaker 2>them causing chaos that can be accomplished on screen in

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<v Speaker 2>a single scene.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if actual bikers,

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<v Speaker 1>actual outlaw bikers, engage in this kind of thing, because

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<v Speaker 1>certainly there are accounts of outlaw bikers engaging in all

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<v Speaker 1>manner of criminal activities.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the kinds of things you would see with

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<v Speaker 2>any type of organized crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, bait, yeah, organized crime, smuggling, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't see a lot of, say, New York Times

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<v Speaker 1>articles about them just knocking stuff over at grocery stores.

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<v Speaker 1>But this reminds me. I was reading an interview or

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<v Speaker 1>part of an interview with the lead singer of Electric Wizard.

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<v Speaker 1>What is his name, A Just Oborne?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, yeah, yeah, and doom metal band.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, doom metal band, stoner band, kind of vibe. And

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<v Speaker 1>there was a quote from it that I want to

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<v Speaker 1>read here just because I thought it was amusing. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why it isn't venerated in the same

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<v Speaker 1>way as the wicker Man or Witchfinder General. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a whole generation of us who grew up watching it

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<v Speaker 1>on TV. In Wimborne, there used to be a safe

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<v Speaker 1>ways that's like a grocery like we see in this film,

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<v Speaker 1>with an entrance on one end and an exit right

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<v Speaker 1>at the other. We used to bike right through it.

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<v Speaker 1>On bmx's kicking stuff over, it was called doing a psychomania.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, that's perfect. Oh no, oh no, the kids getting

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<v Speaker 2>bad idea. They're imitating an act of violence they saw

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<v Speaker 2>on television and what they were watching is psychomania.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it comes back to this idea of the motorcycle Club,

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<v Speaker 1>the Outlad motorcycle Club in myth and in fiction and

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<v Speaker 1>in reality, and how these things all feed into each other.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at least I guess it wasn't violence against people.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't advocate knocking over pyramids of cans

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<v Speaker 2>of baked beans, but yeah, yeah, but you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess you got to do it sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the great things about this film though,

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<v Speaker 1>is that, yes, the characters do engage in some heinous

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<v Speaker 1>acts of violence, mostly off screen, but they also just

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<v Speaker 1>do some very low level criminal Yes, you mischief in

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<v Speaker 1>this just yeah, knocking over stuff like.

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<v Speaker 2>Mind calling and traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, name calling and traffic, just minor assaults on the

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<v Speaker 1>British way of life. And also murder.

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<v Speaker 2>Also murder, so it's murder or like pulling up beside

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<v Speaker 2>somebody in a truck and going yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that kind of all right, So we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>some of the people in this film, since we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the people here absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, is it true that this was directed by somebody

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<v Speaker 2>who had done a bunch of hammer horror films?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, at least a few. This is the director on

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<v Speaker 1>this picture was Don Sharp, who lived nineteen twenty one

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<v Speaker 1>through twenty eleven. Australian born British director, probably best known

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<v Speaker 1>for his Hammer films, including sixty threes, The Kiss of

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<v Speaker 1>the Vampire, sixty four's The Devilship Pirates and Rasputin The

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<v Speaker 1>Mad Monk from nineteen sixty six. I believe this is

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<v Speaker 1>one that our producer set is quite fond of.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, does this one actually have Christopher Lee as Resputant?

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<v Speaker 1>It does?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh, I've got to see that. I love a

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<v Speaker 2>good portrayal of Resputant. One of my favorites, if I've

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<v Speaker 2>never mentioned it on this show before, is he doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get all that much screen time, but his scenes are fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's a movie from the seventies called Nicholas and

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<v Speaker 2>Alexandra that's about the Romanovs and the Russian Revolution and

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<v Speaker 2>all that. And it has Tom Baker, who played the

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<v Speaker 2>doctor on Doctor who as rest Bututant and he is

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<v Speaker 2>just awesome, just devastating. Will He will turn your brain

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<v Speaker 2>into a boiled ham. His scenes will just beat you

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<v Speaker 2>into submission. You'll be watching without blinking. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at some screenshots of it. It looks pretty great. Yeah. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Sharp also directed not the first sequel to The Fly,

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<v Speaker 1>but the second Fly sequel, The Return of the Fly,

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen fifty eight. He also did a film titled

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<v Speaker 1>Bear Island in nineteen seventy nine, which I believe involves bears.

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<v Speaker 1>And he also directed three episodes of the original The

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<v Speaker 1>Avengers series, which we cited.

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<v Speaker 2>Are Oh okay, some things are coming together here, Hammer,

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<v Speaker 2>Horror and The Avengers.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move on to the screenwriters. Here. There's

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<v Speaker 1>Arnaud Dessau, who lived nineteen sixteen through nineteen ninety, American

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<v Speaker 1>screenwriter who also pinned the seventy two UK Spanish co

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<v Speaker 1>production Horror Express, which is a wonderful little film starring

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<v Speaker 1>Christopher Lee, Peter Cushing, Telly Savalas.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa wait, wait wait wait wait wait. Is this the

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<v Speaker 2>one where they extract the image of the killer from

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<v Speaker 2>someone's eye?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's also some sort of like sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>Neanderthal monster wandering around in the train. It has a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weird elements going around in it, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's quite quite amusing. I saw it several years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So the idea and that the e scene is

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<v Speaker 2>that what like the last image a person saw before

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<v Speaker 2>they died is like imprinted on their retina, and somehow

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<v Speaker 2>they extract that from the victim.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's actually an older episode of stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>blow your mind when I did with Christian, where we

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<v Speaker 1>get into this idea and how this idea kind of

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<v Speaker 1>traveled around in scientific and pseudo scientific groups for a while. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just one of the screenwriters. The other is Julian Zimmett,

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<v Speaker 1>another American, I believe. Zim It also worked on Horror

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<v Speaker 1>Express and various pictures to the forties, fifties, sixties and seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>this being his final film credit.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, the main character in this film, I guess you

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<v Speaker 2>could argue about who the main character is. But one

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<v Speaker 2>of the main characters is a very naughty motorcycle youth

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<v Speaker 2>named Tom Latham. And he's played by an actor named

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<v Speaker 2>Nicki Henson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Nicki Henson, who's certainly an actor I've seen before,

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<v Speaker 1>but I really wasn't that familiar with him. He lived

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen forty five through twenty nineteen, British actor with a

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<v Speaker 1>long career in British film and television. And I'd say

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<v Speaker 1>the big titles worth mentioning are two thousand and five's Syriana.

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<v Speaker 1>This was a film with George Clooney in it. He

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<v Speaker 1>also did three episodes of Dalton abby So your Dalton

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<v Speaker 1>Abbey viewers, if you remember a character named Charles Griggs,

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<v Speaker 1>that's our NICKI.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to go ask Rachel who if she remembered

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<v Speaker 2>who he was in the show, and she did figure

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<v Speaker 2>out who he was, but now I can't remember what

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<v Speaker 2>she told me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my wife did not remember this character. But I

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<v Speaker 1>looked up a scene with him, and he looks fun

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he plays into the theater or something

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<v Speaker 1>in it. So, oh wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, now I remember what it is. Okay, I think

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<v Speaker 2>if I recall correctly, she said that he is a

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<v Speaker 2>former vaudeville performing partner with like the head butler guy

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<v Speaker 2>at the at the house, at the at the manor,

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<v Speaker 2>and every and he comes back and he like threatens

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<v Speaker 2>or something. He says like he's like, if you don't

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<v Speaker 2>pay me money, I'm gonna let everybody know that you

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<v Speaker 2>used to be a stage performer and that you weren't

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<v Speaker 2>always so so civilized.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, yeah, the clip I looked at it

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<v Speaker 1>looked fine. It looks like a fun performance worthy of

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<v Speaker 1>an actor who certainly had a had a very dramatic

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<v Speaker 1>voice when he wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Though in this movie, I mean, he's perfect for the role.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him in this, but he's he does he's

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<v Speaker 2>not He's not playing it in a serious way. This

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<v Speaker 2>entire performance is one incredibly extended smirk.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know. There's one sequence where he is

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<v Speaker 1>afraid and frightened and seems to oh that's true, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but then he gets over that really quickly. Now, he

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<v Speaker 1>was also on east Enders, which I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of British actors were, But he was also in such

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<v Speaker 1>genre pictures as sixty eight's Which Finder General, which came

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<v Speaker 1>up a second ago, and then also that one was

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<v Speaker 1>one that starred Vincent Price, and I think I've alluded

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<v Speaker 1>to Vincent Price's facial hair in that before.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the Gandalf from the Soviet Lord of the Rings

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<v Speaker 2>looked like witch Finder General exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But also Nicki Hinson was in seventy four's Old Dracula,

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<v Speaker 1>starring David Niven as Old Dracula. I have not seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sounds sounds interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the premise there wasn't Dracula already old?

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<v Speaker 1>I think? But now he's even older. I don't know,

0:27:49.720 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>but clearly I think you're running out of Dracula ideas

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<v Speaker 1>just when you bust out a old Dracula. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's great, and I just I'm not giving it

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<v Speaker 1>a chance.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like that Key and Peel skit with the pitch

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<v Speaker 2>meeting for Grimlins too. They're just coming up with different

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<v Speaker 2>ideas for Dracula. What about electricity Dracula? How about old Dracula.

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<v Speaker 1>Old Dracula. It's in the movie Vegetable Dracula. Yeah, But

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<v Speaker 1>Nicki Hinson, he's good in this. Like you say, it's

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<v Speaker 1>largely one note except for the one scene, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>very charismatic. He's dressed in leather the whole time. He

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<v Speaker 1>has this kind of like a big chest, narrow waste

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<v Speaker 1>thing going on. So he has this youthful vigor to

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<v Speaker 1>him that really works in the role.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a great Nigel Toughnell mullet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, there's a lot of great early seventies hair

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<v Speaker 1>in this picture. Longside burns everything all right. So he

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<v Speaker 1>plays Tom Latham. But his character's mother is also an

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<v Speaker 1>important character. This is Miss Latham, played by Beryl Reed,

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<v Speaker 1>who lived nineteen nineteen through nineteen ninety six. An acclaimed

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<v Speaker 1>British stage actor. She won a nineteen sixty seven Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Award for Best Actress in in the play The Killing

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<v Speaker 1>of Sister George. She was also in the film with

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<v Speaker 1>adaptation of that play, and other credits include the original

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<v Speaker 1>Tinker Taylor Soldier Spy TV series or perhaps limited mini

0:29:11.680 --> 0:29:15.080
<v Speaker 1>series that starred Alec Guinness, and she was also in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighty three Gram Chapman pirate film yellow Beard.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, before we started recording today, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>a song, a folk song that I really love, is

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<v Speaker 2>one of my favorites, called nineteen fifty two vincent black

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<v Speaker 2>Lightning by the British singer songwriter Richard Thompson. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful song, but it is a song about a red

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<v Speaker 2>headed girl who falls in love with a bad motorcycle

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<v Speaker 2>boy and then when he dies from a shotgun blast

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<v Speaker 2>to the chest, he gives her his motorcycle to ride,

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<v Speaker 2>his nineteen fifty two vincent black Lightning. And immediately I

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<v Speaker 2>thought of this movie because this is a movie about

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<v Speaker 2>a red headed girl who's in love with a bad

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<v Speaker 2>motorcycle boy who dies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, the character is Abby Holme and she's played by

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<v Speaker 1>the actor Mary Larkin. Is was an Irish actor, did

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<v Speaker 1>a fair amount of film and TV work. Nothing that

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<v Speaker 1>really stands out to me personally in her filmography, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think British TV viewers may have some notes for

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<v Speaker 1>us on this. But she has a very nice film

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<v Speaker 1>presence in this motion picture. I'll also say, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to point this out. Her name is Abby and you

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<v Speaker 1>frequently get reminded of this because she has a leather jacket.

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<v Speaker 1>She's in the gang and she has her name on it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love a movie that has name tags. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot easier to keep track of everybody in

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.640
<v Speaker 1>this film. I wish more pictures had name tags like this.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the scene where for most of the movie you

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<v Speaker 2>don't hear most of the names of the characters the

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<v Speaker 2>biker gang, But then there's one scene where undead Tom

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<v Speaker 2>is just looking at all of them, one in a

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<v Speaker 2>row and saying their names, and the sequence is hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something he says something like gash Hatchet, Bertram yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Chopped Meat is another uh huh yep. I think chop

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<v Speaker 1>Meat is the folk singer of the group. If I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken. Really, Yeah, I mean I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>actor was actually a folk singer. But there's a scene

0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:10.600
<v Speaker 1>later on where we get a folk song and I

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<v Speaker 1>think chop meat out of his leather jacket is the

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<v Speaker 1>one that's supposed to be playing that song. Could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>It's such a gentle tune. You wouldn't think that that

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<v Speaker 2>it comes from the mind of a crazed motorcycle killer.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a scene where they're mostly dressed like hippies,

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<v Speaker 1>as if the film is trying to say all of

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<v Speaker 1>us have within us, both the hippie and the biker,

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<v Speaker 1>both the peace loving hippie and the necromantic, druid biker Wraith.

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<v Speaker 1>These are both aspects of the same human soul.

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<v Speaker 2>The peaceful artist whose very voice is love, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the motorcycle nightmare who will run you down on the motorway.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Now, if Abby is the good girl in this

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<v Speaker 1>the bad girl is Jane, played by ann Anne Michelle.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe her name was born nineteen fifty two. Other

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<v Speaker 1>credits include House of rip Chord from seventy four, Haunted

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<v Speaker 1>from seventy seven, and interestingly enough, this actor was once

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<v Speaker 1>married to a professional British motorcycle racer by the name

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<v Speaker 1>of Richard may So. Normally not really worth mentioning what actors'

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<v Speaker 1>spouses did, but in this case I found that interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also fantastic in this because much like Nicki Henson,

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<v Speaker 2>she has a smirk that mocks life itself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she is, like I said, she's the bad girl

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<v Speaker 1>on this. She does not really question the whole necromancy

0:32:32.400 --> 0:32:35.479
<v Speaker 1>scheme that becomes central to the plot. She embraces it

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<v Speaker 1>early on. Right now, we're not going to go through

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<v Speaker 1>all the actors playing all the bikers, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>Chop Mead and Horsecrop and so forth. But Bertram was

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<v Speaker 1>played by this actor by the name of Roy Holder

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:51.160
<v Speaker 1>born nineteen forty six and I believe still alive. Another

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<v Speaker 1>actor with solid British TV and film credits, including two

0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:58.200
<v Speaker 1>thousand and one's Warhorse, Ridley Scott's Robin Hood from twenty

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>eleven and various big TV series like east Enders, Coronation Street,

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<v Speaker 1>Pride and Prejudice, Sense and Sensibility, etc. He played the

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<v Speaker 1>character Krelper, a gun runner who worked for a mercenary

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:14.280
<v Speaker 1>who worked for another villain named Morgas on four episodes

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.560
<v Speaker 1>of Doctor Who in the nineteen eighties, and he plays

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<v Speaker 1>Enoch in the star studied nineteen seventy seven Jesus of

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<v Speaker 1>Nazareth mini series. Okay, I don't think I've seen this,

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<v Speaker 1>but I long remember seeing it on video shelves as

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. It's the one with like the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a big eyed Jesus on the front.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not sure I know which one this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's worth looking up just to see who I

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:39.000
<v Speaker 1>was in it. It was again a star studied project,

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>a huge Jesus movie. Okay, all right. We have a

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<v Speaker 1>police inspector in this film, representing law and order.

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<v Speaker 2>Hate the law, you know, no respect for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The chief inspector in this is played by Robert Hardy,

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<v Speaker 1>who lived nineteen twenty five through twenty seventeen. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Cornelius Fudge himself from the Harry Pot films.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I don't remember who that is. Who's Cornelius Fudge.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh he was the head of the Ministry of Magic.

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I was sort of like the President of the Wizards

0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 2>or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Like, but I mean it's like, it's basically like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an actor who played authority, British authority, figures. Well, yeah,

0:34:15.640 --> 0:34:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and so in this he plays one, and in Harry

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:18.919
<v Speaker 1>Potter he played a different one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He disapproves of your behavior, whatever it is.

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:26.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He was also in Ang Lee's nineteen ninety five

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>Cents in Sensibility. He was on All Creatures Great and Small.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>And he sure played Churchill a lot. I saw Churchill

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.200
<v Speaker 1>popping up a lot of his filmography. Yeah. He was

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<v Speaker 1>also in a seventy two demon possession film titled Demons

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<v Speaker 1>of the Mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, another big connection here is that this bizarre, undead

0:34:43.880 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 2>biker horror movie was the last film of the legendary

0:34:47.840 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 2>actor George Sanders.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, George Sanders playing Shadwell the Butler. Though we suspect

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<v Speaker 1>he is much more.

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Than a butler, the warlock Butler.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He lived nineteen oho through nineteen seventy two, so

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<v Speaker 1>he died the same year this film rap production. Apparently.

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>English actor known for major roles in the forties and

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:12.920
<v Speaker 1>fifties pictures like All About Eve, Rebecca, The Picture of

0:35:13.000 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Dorian Gray, and man Hunt. Later audiences might know him

0:35:17.200 --> 0:35:22.160
<v Speaker 1>best for his voice in Walt Disney's The Jungle Book.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the old animated jungle Book. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of Sheer Khan the Tiger.

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:30.759
<v Speaker 2>I think the talking voice, not the singing voice, is there, right.

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:34.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there's different different credits on those, but the

0:35:34.719 --> 0:35:38.880
<v Speaker 1>talking voice is definitely Sanders. He also played mister Freeze

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:41.880
<v Speaker 1>in the first two appearances of that character in the

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<v Speaker 1>old Batman series.

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<v Speaker 2>Perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there were a couple of other notable actors who

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:50.279
<v Speaker 1>played that same character. It's a real lightning rod for

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:54.560
<v Speaker 1>talent that show. Because Vincent Price also popped up on Batman.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I forgot about that. Who did he play? Was

0:35:57.400 --> 0:35:58.480
<v Speaker 2>he the Riddler or something?

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.320
<v Speaker 1>No, No, that would have been great. Now he played Egghead.

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 1>This character was just a giant egghead.

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<v Speaker 2>I've forgotten.

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's terrible. It's terrible.

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Okay, It's like, should we do a digression here about

0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 2>how bad most of the Batman villains are almost all

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what. In fact, they're like the Grimlins once

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:22.480
<v Speaker 2>again in that Gremlins pitch meeting sketch, because they're all

0:36:22.560 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 2>like I remember this when I was playing one of

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 2>those Batman video games years ago that allows you to

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 2>sort of like collect a catalog of who all the

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 2>villains are, and you got the big ones, you all know,

0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.439
<v Speaker 2>the Joker and the Riddler and all that. I don't

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:37.760
<v Speaker 2>know if the Riddler is different enough from the Joker,

0:36:37.800 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 2>but anyway, once you get into the second tier of

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:44.520
<v Speaker 2>Batman villains, it's all just like clock Man. He is

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:49.280
<v Speaker 2>obsessed with clocks and kills people with schemes that resemble clocks.

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:54.040
<v Speaker 2>You know, Mad Hatter, who is obsessed with the Mad

0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Hatter character in Alice in Wonderland. They're all like extremely literal.

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 2>They're all you know, electricity grimlin one.

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it is, it's like that. It's like,

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, electricity criminal, Riddle criminal, clock criminal. Because essentially,

0:37:07.120 --> 0:37:09.520
<v Speaker 1>like Batman is a detective, he solves crimes. He needs

0:37:09.560 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a criminal to go up against. But you have to

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>put these at least these spins on them and uh

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.799
<v Speaker 1>and of course, over time, various creative minds have found

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:21.799
<v Speaker 1>interesting ways to make those ideas more potent. Take mister

0:37:21.840 --> 0:37:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Freeze for example, Like Freeze criminal is not a very

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>interesting concept, but certainly by the time of the like

0:37:28.560 --> 0:37:30.520
<v Speaker 1>the animated Batman series.

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.240
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, when we were kids, you know, they ice, Yeah,

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>they found ways to make this just a tragic and

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>romantic figure and just a fascinating character with cool, freezing

0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>criminal powers.

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 2>Right. Oh, I want to be clear, I'm not dissing

0:37:45.800 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 2>doctor Freeze especially or mister Freeze. Even though he is

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:52.640
<v Speaker 2>a doctor. He goes by mister Freeze, even though he

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 2>has a PhD.

0:37:54.120 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, he takes that do no harm thing seriously,

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I guess, or I don't know, or a PhD, no idea,

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>But he's when he's freezing, he's mister Freeze.

0:38:05.000 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Right exactly. That's his yeah, off off the clock.

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, this is this is George Sanders's last picture,

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.160
<v Speaker 1>and by all accounts, he was not in a good

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>place at this point in his life, probably not performing

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>at his peak. But he's still a great presence in

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:24.800
<v Speaker 1>the film. You know, he's still he still creates some

0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:25.760
<v Speaker 1>magic on the screen.

0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:28.560
<v Speaker 2>Robi. I know you always like to talk about the music,

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 2>and the music in this movie is one of the

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 2>big selling points. There are some great folk songs in it.

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.880
<v Speaker 2>There's some great psychedelic guitar. It's all over the place.

0:38:38.480 --> 0:38:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's a little bit funky in places. There's

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>some I guess what he got like fuzz tone rock

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:47.880
<v Speaker 1>notes in it. It's yeah, it's a wonderful score and

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 1>this is definitely a score that's available and has long

0:38:50.560 --> 0:38:53.319
<v Speaker 1>been available in various formats. It is the work of

0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:58.160
<v Speaker 1>John Cameron born nineteen forty four, British composer, arranger, conductor

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:01.239
<v Speaker 1>and musician. He did a number of film scores for

0:39:01.640 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 1>various pictures over the years. One that stuck out to me,

0:39:05.040 --> 0:39:07.040
<v Speaker 1>and this may not be his crowning achievement. I don't

0:39:07.040 --> 0:39:09.280
<v Speaker 1>remember what the music was like in this, but nineteen

0:39:09.360 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 1>ninety two's Frankenstein starring Randy Quaid as the Monster and

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Bergen as the Doctor. This one I think debuted

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:21.399
<v Speaker 1>on TNT on cable back when I was a kid,

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:23.640
<v Speaker 1>and I may have mentioned on the show before because

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>when this came out and was like, yeah, this is

0:39:25.560 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 1>this is Frankenstein.

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 2>This is not the first time you've brought this one up.

0:39:28.960 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 2>In fact, you've brought it up almost to scold me

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:34.880
<v Speaker 2>for like making jokes about Randy Quaid.

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:38.160
<v Speaker 1>No, you can joke about Randy Quaid all you want.

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>In terms of his acting though Randy Quaid, I have

0:39:43.560 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 1>found him quite good in a few different pictures and

0:39:47.719 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>this was one of him playing playing the monster. But

0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.200
<v Speaker 1>as for the music, yeah, this is This is really

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.080
<v Speaker 1>good stuff from Cameron. You know, we'll talk about the

0:39:56.120 --> 0:39:59.200
<v Speaker 1>folk ballot in a bit. Originally, the tracks off of

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:02.520
<v Speaker 1>this score, witch Hunt and Living Dead were actually released

0:40:02.520 --> 0:40:06.000
<v Speaker 1>as a single on vinyl, with Cameron taking on the

0:40:06.040 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>moniker of frog.

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Hmm, now there is a major frog in this movie.

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I honestly could not understand what the magical significance of

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 2>the frog was. Maybe you can help me understand that

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.680
<v Speaker 2>as we talk about the plot a little bit more. Yeah, yeah,

0:40:21.719 --> 0:40:25.240
<v Speaker 2>look at it as a froggy film. The Psychomania gets froggy.

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But before we move forward, though, first, let's have

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>a let's have just another sample of that music, the

0:40:31.960 --> 0:41:07.439
<v Speaker 1>score to Psychomania. Yeah, it's so good. It's so good.

0:41:08.040 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling the last vestiges of respect for law and

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.799
<v Speaker 2>humanity fading away. I am about to go out and

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 2>do evil, do exactly as I will.

0:41:24.160 --> 0:41:26.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, let's go ahead and talk about the film. Let's

0:41:26.800 --> 0:41:29.280
<v Speaker 1>get into the plot, because this one has it's against

0:41:29.280 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>so many weird elements it's really worth dwelling on.

0:41:32.560 --> 0:41:37.480
<v Speaker 2>Well, so the very opening is just divine. I love

0:41:37.560 --> 0:41:40.280
<v Speaker 2>the first few minutes of this movie. It's once again

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 2>druids on wheels. It's just bikers doing slow mo stunts

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 2>in the grass amidst an ancient stone circle while this

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:55.800
<v Speaker 2>acid wizard guitar music just drips in the background. I love, love,

0:41:56.120 --> 0:41:59.799
<v Speaker 2>love this. Filmmakers out there, if you want to make

0:41:59.840 --> 0:42:02.919
<v Speaker 2>movies today that I will just like gush about incessantly.

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 2>Get this vibe, recreate it, make more of this kind

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 2>of thing. I believe that the setting here, so you know,

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 2>they're riding around doing bike stunts at a stone circle.

0:42:15.760 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 2>I think this is supposed to be at a place

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:22.880
<v Speaker 2>called Avebury Hinge, at least according to some not super

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:25.800
<v Speaker 2>authoritative looking articles I was reading, so I'm not certain

0:42:25.840 --> 0:42:29.160
<v Speaker 2>about this. But if this is supposed to be Avebury Hinge,

0:42:29.239 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 2>that is a Neolithic stone monument site much like Stone Hinge.

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.440
<v Speaker 2>This one's in the southwest of England, and I'm not

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:40.359
<v Speaker 2>sure if they are actually truly gunning their hogs through

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:43.120
<v Speaker 2>the real megaliths or if this is a set made

0:42:43.120 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 2>to look like it. If it is a set, I'm impressed,

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.319
<v Speaker 2>like it looks pretty convincing. They may actually have been

0:42:49.520 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 2>ripping me through a priceless forty five hundred year old

0:42:52.200 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 2>ritual site.

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:55.720
<v Speaker 1>I can't tell, but these scenes are impressive. It sets

0:42:55.719 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 1>the tone for the picture.

0:42:56.920 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, so slow mo bike jumps, cross, sing

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.759
<v Speaker 2>in and out. I imagine they were probably actually going

0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 2>at pretty low speed, but then by playing it back

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:08.439
<v Speaker 2>in slow motion, you can create the impression that at

0:43:08.480 --> 0:43:11.560
<v Speaker 2>full speed they would have been doing something incredibly dangerous.

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:15.040
<v Speaker 2>So this is the biker gang at the heart of

0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:18.400
<v Speaker 2>the movie. They're known as the Living Dead. I adore

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:22.879
<v Speaker 2>their outfits. They've got these skull helmets and they all

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 2>wear black leather motorcycle gear except for Jane, who wears

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:30.680
<v Speaker 2>red leather and white gloves. And these are just some bad,

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:35.160
<v Speaker 2>bad English youths whose brains have been defiled by overdoses

0:43:35.200 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 2>of black leather, carbon monoxide and moral nihilism. They do

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:42.479
<v Speaker 2>what they want and they care not for man's law.

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:47.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these outfits are incredible. If you haven't seen clips

0:43:47.560 --> 0:43:49.920
<v Speaker 1>from this film, look it up because the design and

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>the biker helmets just looks great. Again, it looks like

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>a skull. And then they're wearing most of them again

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 1>are wearing head to toe black leather and it says

0:43:58.160 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 1>of course living dead on the back. And then they

0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:02.520
<v Speaker 1>have their name tags on the front.

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Or yeah, name tags, yeah, yeah, which is a great

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:07.600
<v Speaker 2>thing for criminals to have, right. So the first thing

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:12.760
<v Speaker 2>we see them doing is just dangerously harassing people driving

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:14.840
<v Speaker 2>on the on the on the back, you know, the

0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:18.279
<v Speaker 2>country roads. And I think they actually kill a guy

0:44:18.480 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 2>like that, or at least they knock him out like

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.840
<v Speaker 2>they they scare him until he's in an accident and

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.640
<v Speaker 2>is thrown from his vehicle. So they're just out just

0:44:25.719 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 2>randomly murdering innocent people. And they've got their names on

0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:29.240
<v Speaker 2>their clothes.

0:44:30.040 --> 0:44:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. This film mostly has a very sanitized view of

0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 1>how death works because mostly things happen, people become very

0:44:37.160 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>still and they are dead. Yeah, it's weirdly sanitized for

0:44:41.200 --> 0:44:43.920
<v Speaker 1>a film that is otherwise, you know, just on paper

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 1>is obsessed with death.

0:44:45.400 --> 0:44:48.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not a bloody movie. It's actually it's it's

0:44:48.360 --> 0:44:51.839
<v Speaker 2>it's very clean. Yeah. And there are a number, like

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 2>pretty much all outlaw biker films. You've got to have

0:44:55.160 --> 0:45:01.000
<v Speaker 2>just these scenes of the characters being lawless, dangerous and

0:45:01.840 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 2>harassing other people. I would call these scenes to take

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:09.440
<v Speaker 2>a coinage from Polly Walnuts may Ham. You know, you've

0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:12.719
<v Speaker 2>got to have your Mayhem sequences and so that's what

0:45:12.800 --> 0:45:14.720
<v Speaker 2>we get right at the get go. They go straight

0:45:14.760 --> 0:45:19.360
<v Speaker 2>from the stone Circle stunts to riding around doing mayhem.

0:45:19.760 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 2>And so the leader played by Nicki Henson is this

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:28.080
<v Speaker 2>guy named Tom Latham. I already mentioned that he is

0:45:28.640 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 2>sort of like Nigel Toughnell of Spinal Tap, but I

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 2>would describe him as a cross between Nigel Toughnell and

0:45:35.400 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Malcolm McDowell at a clockwork orange picture, those two in

0:45:39.600 --> 0:45:42.959
<v Speaker 2>a venn diagram. And then you've got Tom.

0:45:43.040 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but a lot more likable, more likable than perhaps

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:48.880
<v Speaker 1>any Malcolm McDowell character has that sure.

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:49.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Now, of course, this being a biker film, there are

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 1>lots of shots of bikers biking. One thing that sets

0:45:55.200 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>us apart from let's say, less well crafted biker films.

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.520
<v Speaker 1>And I've seen of these where sometimes you'll have the

0:46:01.560 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>camera set up and you'll just watch the bikers approach

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>for like a mile in the desert, you.

0:46:06.520 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Know, yeah, wererolls on wheels? Does that yet?

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, where it's just like, wow, we're really gonna watch

0:46:11.280 --> 0:46:13.279
<v Speaker 1>this for a while. They set up this shot and

0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna we're gonna see all of it. But and

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 1>there's maybe like one shot in this where it felt

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:21.040
<v Speaker 1>like it went on a bit long, but otherwise they

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>did a good job of just giving us interesting footage

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:26.840
<v Speaker 1>of our gang terrorizing the roads.

0:46:27.560 --> 0:46:32.160
<v Speaker 2>So a sin that is often committed by B movies

0:46:32.440 --> 0:46:36.640
<v Speaker 2>is padding, trying to insert extra stuff to pad out

0:46:36.680 --> 0:46:39.840
<v Speaker 2>the run time and get to full feature length. That

0:46:40.000 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 2>is a thing I would not accuse this movie of.

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's a lot of padding. I think

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:46.319
<v Speaker 2>it moves at a pretty nice pace and there's not

0:46:46.400 --> 0:46:49.360
<v Speaker 2>a lot of just watching people drive around with no purpose.

0:46:49.960 --> 0:46:52.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And if I think if some people were confused

0:46:52.880 --> 0:46:55.160
<v Speaker 1>by the film and they might say, well, maybe we

0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:57.360
<v Speaker 1>needed more of the film to explain these things, I

0:46:57.400 --> 0:46:59.400
<v Speaker 1>think that I think that would be the wrong instinct,

0:46:59.440 --> 0:47:02.799
<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of stuff, like the frogs, that

0:47:02.880 --> 0:47:06.239
<v Speaker 1>we don't completely understand. There's a cryptic nature to it,

0:47:06.280 --> 0:47:08.040
<v Speaker 1>and I feel like that is how it should be.

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Given the magic that's taking place here. We're not supposed

0:47:11.160 --> 0:47:14.440
<v Speaker 1>to understand frog necromancy. It is supposed to be a

0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:15.200
<v Speaker 1>mystery to us.

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 2>I almost forgot about the frogs. We got to talk

0:47:17.040 --> 0:47:19.760
<v Speaker 2>about the frog So they do the mayhem at the beginning,

0:47:20.239 --> 0:47:23.880
<v Speaker 2>and then the next scene is we get Tom and Abby.

0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:28.080
<v Speaker 2>Abby is another member of the gang, and Tom is

0:47:28.080 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 2>her boyfriend, and they're hanging out in a graveyard and

0:47:32.400 --> 0:47:35.520
<v Speaker 2>Tom catches a frog in the graveyard and he says, hello,

0:47:35.680 --> 0:47:40.840
<v Speaker 2>little green friend and Abby. It's funny because Abby seems

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 2>like she does not really belong in this gang. She

0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:45.720
<v Speaker 2>just seems like an extremely nice young lady who would

0:47:45.719 --> 0:47:49.400
<v Speaker 2>not be out doing highway murders. The rest of the

0:47:49.440 --> 0:47:53.400
<v Speaker 2>gang are obviously these immoral, lawless creeps, and Abby just

0:47:53.400 --> 0:47:57.160
<v Speaker 2>seems like she's just a nice girl. So I'm not

0:47:57.160 --> 0:47:59.480
<v Speaker 2>sure what's going on there, but it makes sense because

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:03.560
<v Speaker 2>she's she I think eventually becomes the main character. And

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:07.000
<v Speaker 2>you're only five minutes into the movie before Tom is

0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:10.360
<v Speaker 2>saying to Abby, let's do it. Let's kill ourselves and

0:48:10.400 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 2>become some kind of cursed undead monsters, and Abby's like, oh, Tom,

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:18.680
<v Speaker 2>not that again. So apparently he brings this up all

0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 2>the time every time they get together. He's like, what

0:48:20.719 --> 0:48:24.440
<v Speaker 2>do you say, let's become undead? Yeah, And it's also

0:48:24.719 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of strange how much she seems to take this

0:48:26.680 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 2>in stride, like she's just like, oh, that's silly, not

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 2>like it doesn't really bother her.

0:48:31.000 --> 0:48:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but clearly, yeah, he talks about it a lot.

0:48:34.040 --> 0:48:36.799
<v Speaker 1>This is his thing, like it was probably I don't

0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:40.319
<v Speaker 1>know if they had yearbooks in Britain at this time,

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:42.759
<v Speaker 1>but if they had one, he would be most likely

0:48:42.880 --> 0:48:46.240
<v Speaker 1>to destroy oneself and become an undead monster.

0:48:46.640 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 2>Right. So Tom goes back to his house, which is

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:52.759
<v Speaker 2>a gigantic mansion. Wouldn't you know it, This good for

0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:57.200
<v Speaker 2>nothing modo Rascal is actually a posh rich kid, and

0:48:57.440 --> 0:49:00.279
<v Speaker 2>so they're at the house. You find out his family,

0:49:00.000 --> 0:49:02.160
<v Speaker 2>only I don't know how it was to explain the

0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:05.800
<v Speaker 2>family situation. So the family is him and his mother

0:49:06.040 --> 0:49:10.280
<v Speaker 2>and their butler, Shadwell, and his mother and Shadwell seem

0:49:10.360 --> 0:49:14.399
<v Speaker 2>to be into evil magic. They're into the occult. They

0:49:14.440 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 2>do seances and other occult stuff in the house. And

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:23.760
<v Speaker 2>Tom's father has passed away because it's implied he tried

0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:27.520
<v Speaker 2>to do some kind of dangerous evil ritual and failed

0:49:27.560 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and died in the process.

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:32.839
<v Speaker 1>Right, and possibly like permanently warped a room in their

0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>house with foul magic from beyond. Again, not completely explained,

0:49:37.960 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want the film to explain it more.

0:49:40.280 --> 0:49:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I like that it's so cryptic but yeah, this is

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:46.280
<v Speaker 1>a weird house in a weird family setting because Shadwell

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 1>is not really he's the butler. He's not, he's not

0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:52.359
<v Speaker 1>his father. But he also there's a there's clear from

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.800
<v Speaker 1>the very beginning that Shadwell is not just a butler.

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.920
<v Speaker 1>There is there's a power to him, there's knowledge there,

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:02.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's he's only so involved in the actual affairs

0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:05.520
<v Speaker 1>of the family. Like I noticed that a lot of times,

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.839
<v Speaker 1>maybe in a very sort of proper English butler way,

0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:12.320
<v Speaker 1>one of them will express an emotion and he'll comment

0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:15.839
<v Speaker 1>upon it, but he's not really expressing an opinion one

0:50:15.840 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>way or the other.

0:50:17.440 --> 0:50:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, the circumspect removed a jeeves ish editorial position. Yeah,

0:50:24.400 --> 0:50:27.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean he's like Jeeves, but if Jeeves were an

0:50:27.880 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 2>ancient druid warlock.

0:50:29.520 --> 0:50:33.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, because ultimately we come to learn that he

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>is either some sort of an ancient druid warlock or

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:40.200
<v Speaker 1>perhaps something worse, perhaps a demon or the devil himself

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:43.160
<v Speaker 1>or something something from beyond. I don't know. It could

0:50:43.200 --> 0:50:46.120
<v Speaker 1>go either way, but there's a lot more to Shadwell

0:50:46.160 --> 0:50:47.000
<v Speaker 1>than just butlering.

0:50:47.719 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 2>So Tom gets home with this frog that he caught

0:50:50.040 --> 0:50:53.880
<v Speaker 2>in the graveyard and he's like, He's like, Okay, I

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:56.279
<v Speaker 2>want to know the secret of the living Dead, and

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:01.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess Shadwell is like, Okay, maybe he should know,

0:51:01.239 --> 0:51:05.960
<v Speaker 2>maybe not, but the frog seems significant. Can you explain

0:51:06.000 --> 0:51:08.320
<v Speaker 2>the frog to me? I've seen this movie multiple times

0:51:08.320 --> 0:51:12.480
<v Speaker 2>and I don't understand the relationship between the frog and

0:51:12.640 --> 0:51:14.319
<v Speaker 2>the power to come back from the dead.

0:51:16.600 --> 0:51:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't really have a clear answer. But we

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>see actual frogs. We see, of course, the wonderful frog

0:51:23.480 --> 0:51:27.320
<v Speaker 1>amulet that comes up that when it first appeared on screen,

0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 1>I audibly gasped it was.

0:51:28.920 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 2>So oh yeah, to behold wonderful jewelry. So Tom's mother

0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:34.960
<v Speaker 2>is like, should we tell him the secret of the

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:38.319
<v Speaker 2>living Dead? It could be dangerous for him, And Shadwell's like,

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.719
<v Speaker 2>it won't be dangerous for him if he's protected with this.

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:44.480
<v Speaker 2>And then he gets out this necklace that's got a

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:45.400
<v Speaker 2>frog on it.

0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 1>And I think Shadwell has a ring with the frog

0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:51.160
<v Speaker 1>on it as well. And then oh, and then there's

0:51:51.160 --> 0:51:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the like the frog from Beyond. There's like a dreamlike

0:51:54.120 --> 0:51:57.640
<v Speaker 1>sequence involving a mirror that casts no reflection, and within

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:02.160
<v Speaker 1>that smoking mirror of a cult weirdness, we see the

0:52:02.200 --> 0:52:05.319
<v Speaker 1>form of a frog. So I don't know if like

0:52:05.400 --> 0:52:07.759
<v Speaker 1>that is the form of the force from beyond? Is

0:52:07.960 --> 0:52:10.600
<v Speaker 1>is it conveying information or is that or is that

0:52:10.680 --> 0:52:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the is that the form of the destroyer? And this

0:52:13.280 --> 0:52:15.920
<v Speaker 1>this picture, I don't know, so many questions, but the

0:52:15.920 --> 0:52:21.080
<v Speaker 1>frog is a repeating symbol and oh yeah, it's it's good.

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:23.160
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of frog action in this and it

0:52:23.160 --> 0:52:24.120
<v Speaker 1>absolutely works.

0:52:24.400 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 2>There's also a wonderful scene where when Tom and his

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:30.040
<v Speaker 2>mother first meet up, they start waltzing around the living room.

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:33.400
<v Speaker 2>They've got like a sunken living room and they're dancing

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:36.960
<v Speaker 2>and she's like, Tom, now I you know, I think

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:39.440
<v Speaker 2>the police are after you. And he says the word

0:52:39.600 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 2>mother is fuzz and she says she says, if you

0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:46.799
<v Speaker 2>don't be careful, you're going to end up arrested. And

0:52:46.880 --> 0:52:49.520
<v Speaker 2>he says the word mother is busted.

0:52:50.880 --> 0:52:52.960
<v Speaker 1>It's weird how he's you know, he's having to educate

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:56.080
<v Speaker 1>his mom on the cool lingo. But their living room

0:52:56.239 --> 0:52:58.959
<v Speaker 1>is really hip, like it's a very mod living room

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:03.320
<v Speaker 1>with like they have this cosmic like black starscape behind

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 1>the occult seance table and then there's a fireplace and

0:53:07.440 --> 0:53:11.160
<v Speaker 1>there's like all those weird modern furniture going on. It's

0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:13.839
<v Speaker 1>a it's a strange, strange living room, and I love it.

0:53:14.440 --> 0:53:17.520
<v Speaker 2>But ultimately in this whole sequence has Tom has this

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:20.480
<v Speaker 2>weird thing where he goes into the cursed room and

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:24.319
<v Speaker 2>faces the magic mirror, and ultimately he finds out the

0:53:24.360 --> 0:53:27.920
<v Speaker 2>secret of the living dead by overhearing his mother. And

0:53:28.000 --> 0:53:30.000
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't seem like much of a secret. The secret

0:53:30.040 --> 0:53:32.720
<v Speaker 2>just seems to be that you have to to become

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:36.480
<v Speaker 2>an evil, undead immortal, you have to kill yourself and

0:53:36.520 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>truly believe you'll come back from the dead.

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:42.000
<v Speaker 1>And Tom is, I guess he's convinced of this. I

0:53:42.000 --> 0:53:45.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know, I'm trying to remember what specifically convinced him.

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was the experience in the room, like encountering

0:53:48.239 --> 0:53:52.480
<v Speaker 1>other worldly, weird magical things. Yeah, but when he he's

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:54.320
<v Speaker 1>terrified in the room, like there's there's a lot of

0:53:54.400 --> 0:53:57.000
<v Speaker 1>terrified acting going on while he's in there. But it's

0:53:57.040 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 1>not long afterwards, so he gets out of there. He

0:53:58.719 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 1>wakes up and he's like, all right, let's do it.

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Death and immortality bring.

0:54:02.520 --> 0:54:06.080
<v Speaker 2>It on, right, And so the next day he's ready,

0:54:06.120 --> 0:54:08.799
<v Speaker 2>He's ready, He's ready to become the lich King. So,

0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:12.080
<v Speaker 2>like we said earlier, every outlaw biker movie has to

0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 2>have scenes of bikers riding around knocking things over. You know,

0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:17.640
<v Speaker 2>they see stuff that's vertical and just their eyes go

0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:21.320
<v Speaker 2>red and they're like, you're not gonna be vertical for long.

0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:23.760
<v Speaker 2>And so they ride around in the town square knocking

0:54:23.840 --> 0:54:27.360
<v Speaker 2>stuff over in a scene of chaos and mayhem that

0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:32.520
<v Speaker 2>will culminate in Tom driving his motorcycle off a bridge

0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:34.080
<v Speaker 2>to become the evil Dead.

0:54:34.560 --> 0:54:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Right. He watches up on the bank and they're like

0:54:36.360 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>two children there and they're.

0:54:37.360 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Like look, yeah. And so then after this we get

0:54:41.239 --> 0:54:43.080
<v Speaker 2>a scene that is one of the best scenes in

0:54:43.120 --> 0:54:46.160
<v Speaker 2>the movie. It's the funeral for Tom, which they have

0:54:46.480 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 2>at this stone circle that you saw on the opening

0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 2>of the film, which they called the Seven Witches. I

0:54:52.560 --> 0:54:54.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know which elements to focus on first, but this

0:54:54.520 --> 0:54:57.440
<v Speaker 2>scene is so great. Maybe the folk song. So there's

0:54:57.920 --> 0:55:02.080
<v Speaker 2>one of the bikers who again these they kill people.

0:55:02.440 --> 0:55:06.120
<v Speaker 2>He's also like a sweet singer songwriter and he plays

0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:09.880
<v Speaker 2>this song that goes and the world never knew his name,

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.640
<v Speaker 2>but the chosen few know of his fame.

0:55:13.080 --> 0:55:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really good, and you can find clips of

0:55:17.600 --> 0:55:19.759
<v Speaker 1>this whole song on YouTube if you look around for it.

0:55:19.800 --> 0:55:23.280
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there's the folk song that's going on. That's wonderful.

0:55:23.880 --> 0:55:27.279
<v Speaker 1>Just also the whole premise, because basically what's happened is

0:55:27.320 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 1>after after Tom died, Abby came to his mom and said, hey,

0:55:32.760 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 1>it's sad that Tom died. We would love to bury

0:55:35.560 --> 0:55:39.040
<v Speaker 1>him in our way, according to our custom according to

0:55:39.080 --> 0:55:41.360
<v Speaker 1>our customs. So you might wonder what is a traditional

0:55:41.400 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 1>English biker funeral. Well, it apparently involves, I guess, being

0:55:45.680 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 1>taxidermied atop of your motorcycle and then buried on your

0:55:49.800 --> 0:55:53.759
<v Speaker 1>motorcycle in a grave, like an enormous grave. And in

0:55:53.800 --> 0:55:57.160
<v Speaker 1>this case that isn't the grave like adjacent to the hinge.

0:55:57.680 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 2>It's right in the middle of the hinge.

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:02.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which seems this seems like this would not be

0:56:02.400 --> 0:56:03.600
<v Speaker 1>legal the authorities.

0:56:03.640 --> 0:56:06.120
<v Speaker 2>I do not think they would let you bury somebody there.

0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:08.120
<v Speaker 1>And on a motorcycle. I mean, it's going to.

0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Motorcycle just on it. It reminds me of the actual

0:56:12.760 --> 0:56:17.239
<v Speaker 2>practice of horse burial, where, for example, you might see

0:56:17.239 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 2>an ancient Scythian warrior buried with his horse. I think

0:56:20.719 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 2>this practice is common among people more in sort of

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:28.680
<v Speaker 2>like the Indo European and Central Asian regions throughout history,

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:32.000
<v Speaker 2>where you know, the strong, strong horse based cultures, people

0:56:32.040 --> 0:56:35.160
<v Speaker 2>would sometimes be buried with their horse in some way,

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 2>and here it's like that, but it's the motorcycle instead

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:38.640
<v Speaker 2>of the horse.

0:56:39.280 --> 0:56:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, it's But it's great though, because he's just

0:56:41.680 --> 0:56:44.360
<v Speaker 1>sitting on the body. He's just being real still, you know,

0:56:45.160 --> 0:56:48.239
<v Speaker 1>on the on the motorcycle in the grave while they're

0:56:48.480 --> 0:56:50.759
<v Speaker 1>playing this song and then oh and then of course

0:56:50.760 --> 0:56:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you get to you see the hinge the stones behind them,

0:56:53.840 --> 0:56:56.600
<v Speaker 1>and then also there's a smoke stack in the background. Yes,

0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:58.479
<v Speaker 1>and I just love that shot like that, that shot

0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>just feels so seventy He's Britain. I love it.

0:57:01.680 --> 0:57:04.640
<v Speaker 2>And the song going on the lyrics at one point

0:57:04.719 --> 0:57:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the singer goes and he really got it on. He

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:11.440
<v Speaker 2>rode that sweet machine just like a bomb. It's like,

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I can't think of instances of people riding bombs except

0:57:14.520 --> 0:57:16.720
<v Speaker 2>in Doctor Strangelove. Is that what he meant?

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Maybe so, I mean the time the timeframe would work,

0:57:19.680 --> 0:57:22.280
<v Speaker 1>or maybe it's British biker lingo that we're just this.

0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:34.440
<v Speaker 2>But so, of course Tom comes back from the grave

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:37.120
<v Speaker 2>as an evil undead version of himself. I guess he

0:57:37.200 --> 0:57:37.960
<v Speaker 2>was already evil.

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh please, don't just say he comes back from the grave.

0:57:43.600 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 2>He busts up out of the grave. So there's a

0:57:46.760 --> 0:57:51.600
<v Speaker 2>scene where like a car pulls over on the highway

0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and the man gets out of the car and his

0:57:54.680 --> 0:57:58.400
<v Speaker 2>wife there is like, he's like, oh, we're having car trouble.

0:57:58.440 --> 0:58:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I've got to go to the garage. And his wife says,

0:58:01.480 --> 0:58:03.240
<v Speaker 2>you could get there faster if you cut through the

0:58:03.240 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 2>seven witches. You're not afraid, are you, And he's like,

0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 2>uh no, obviously he is. So he's walking through the

0:58:09.720 --> 0:58:12.520
<v Speaker 2>seven witches. But then what's that he hears? Is that

0:58:12.600 --> 0:58:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a Is that a revving the

0:58:14.560 --> 0:58:17.080
<v Speaker 2>revving of a motorcycle, as if coming up from out

0:58:17.160 --> 0:58:21.720
<v Speaker 2>of the earth, and then boom, spray of dirt. Tom

0:58:21.880 --> 0:58:25.200
<v Speaker 2>busts up out of his grave on the motorcycle and

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:26.320
<v Speaker 2>runs this guy over.

0:58:26.960 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Tom is back from the grave. And one

0:58:29.760 --> 0:58:32.040
<v Speaker 1>of the great things about this is you might expect,

0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 1>given all this, that Tom would be this like grizzly

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:38.400
<v Speaker 1>undead biker now, But no, Tom looks exactly like he

0:58:38.400 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 1>did in life, acts exactly like he did in life.

0:58:40.880 --> 0:58:44.120
<v Speaker 1>With the added caveat that he is now seemingly immortal

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:47.840
<v Speaker 1>and indestructible. Yeah, and you might wonder, well, what's why

0:58:47.840 --> 0:58:50.959
<v Speaker 1>does he exploit this? Well, the first thing he does

0:58:51.040 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 1>is he basically he tanks up his hog, and then

0:58:54.480 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 1>he also goes in as a beer and he doesn't

0:58:57.760 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 1>pay for any of these things because now he is invincible.

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Well, he kills the service station attendant because he asked

0:59:04.280 --> 0:59:06.920
<v Speaker 2>him for money, and then he also at the he

0:59:06.960 --> 0:59:10.640
<v Speaker 2>goes to the pub to use the telephone because he

0:59:10.640 --> 0:59:13.240
<v Speaker 2>wants to call Shadwell. He calls Shadwell on the phone

0:59:13.760 --> 0:59:16.880
<v Speaker 2>and Shadwell's like, oh, how does it feel to be back?

0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 2>And he says splendid. And he seems maybe even more

0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:26.040
<v Speaker 2>freed from pathetic human morality than he was before, because

0:59:26.080 --> 0:59:27.880
<v Speaker 2>now he's just doing murders everywhere.

0:59:27.920 --> 0:59:29.680
<v Speaker 1>He goes like, yeah, like five at a time.

0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's like a lady at the pub who wants

0:59:32.480 --> 0:59:34.840
<v Speaker 2>to ride on his motorcycle. She's like, take me for

0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:37.360
<v Speaker 2>a ride, and he's like no, and he just kills her.

0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's offscreen killing everybody.

0:59:40.160 --> 0:59:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Yes, but yeah, so he's he's immortal and invulnerable, and

0:59:44.200 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 2>he appears back to the rest of his gang, and

0:59:46.720 --> 0:59:49.480
<v Speaker 2>he says, hey, you know, here's the deal. If you

0:59:49.560 --> 0:59:52.440
<v Speaker 2>kill yourself and become an undead lych king like me,

0:59:53.040 --> 0:59:56.120
<v Speaker 2>you will be indestructible and then we can really party.

0:59:56.560 --> 0:59:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they buy into it instantly because the proof

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:01.400
<v Speaker 1>is in the pudding. Like here he is, he's back.

1:00:01.440 --> 1:00:03.120
<v Speaker 1>You don't need to go into the weird mirror room

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:06.800
<v Speaker 1>because Tom stands before you. And also one of them

1:00:06.840 --> 1:00:09.760
<v Speaker 1>tries to stab him, and he's like, it doesn't work

1:00:09.760 --> 1:00:12.160
<v Speaker 1>on me anymore. See, I'm immortal. You guys should join

1:00:12.160 --> 1:00:12.600
<v Speaker 1>the club too.

1:00:12.720 --> 1:00:14.800
<v Speaker 2>He's not bothered by it. Yeah, the guy tries to

1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:18.600
<v Speaker 2>stab him, and he's just like, isn't it cool? But

1:00:18.720 --> 1:00:22.360
<v Speaker 2>so there is a I guess a very darkly comic

1:00:22.440 --> 1:00:25.080
<v Speaker 2>sequence where all the rest of the bikers are like,

1:00:25.360 --> 1:00:27.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm next, and they take their turns doing

1:00:28.080 --> 1:00:30.400
<v Speaker 2>bizarre suicides to become the evil dead.

1:00:31.000 --> 1:00:35.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's a sequence that is just shockingly hilarious, this

1:00:35.360 --> 1:00:38.440
<v Speaker 1>strong gallows humor. But it's like each one chooses a

1:00:38.440 --> 1:00:41.360
<v Speaker 1>different method. The one that got me though, is the

1:00:41.600 --> 1:00:44.040
<v Speaker 1>is the bike. I forget which one this is. He's

1:00:44.120 --> 1:00:47.440
<v Speaker 1>he's wearing a swimsuit and he's laid in with chains,

1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:51.240
<v Speaker 1>like a ridiculous amount of chains, like like Bob Marley's ghost.

1:00:52.200 --> 1:00:56.760
<v Speaker 1>He's Jacob Marley. I'm sorry, Jacob Marley's gust not Bob, Sorry,

1:00:56.880 --> 1:01:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Jacob Marley's ghost from from a Carrol. He's laden in

1:01:01.800 --> 1:01:05.280
<v Speaker 1>all these you know, fake chains, and he's he's he's

1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:10.200
<v Speaker 1>shambling towards the riverside, clearly to drown himself. But it's like, really,

1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:13.160
<v Speaker 1>that's the method you choose, and then he does it.

1:01:13.680 --> 1:01:16.440
<v Speaker 2>One of them off screen, of course, yes, yeah, one

1:01:16.480 --> 1:01:20.360
<v Speaker 2>of them goes skydiving without a parachute. Yeah, but yes,

1:01:20.440 --> 1:01:23.200
<v Speaker 2>the goal is they're all going to become undead bikers,

1:01:23.280 --> 1:01:23.840
<v Speaker 2>just like Tom.

1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:01:24.880 --> 1:01:28.040
<v Speaker 2>And so in the end, because of course, uh, there's

1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:32.120
<v Speaker 2>just death everywhere. Now, the the police get involved. So

1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:35.160
<v Speaker 2>the third act, that's I guess pretty standard for movies

1:01:35.160 --> 1:01:36.919
<v Speaker 2>like this. The police come in and they're like, well,

1:01:36.920 --> 1:01:39.040
<v Speaker 2>we've got to we've got to set a trap for

1:01:39.280 --> 1:01:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Tom and the bikers, and they decide they want to

1:01:42.960 --> 1:01:45.640
<v Speaker 2>use Abby as bait because Abby is the only one

1:01:45.680 --> 1:01:48.120
<v Speaker 2>of them who doesn't buy into this, and she decides

1:01:48.200 --> 1:01:51.280
<v Speaker 2>she actually doesn't want to become undead. She likes living

1:01:51.320 --> 1:01:53.800
<v Speaker 2>thanks very much, and she backs out of it.

1:01:54.280 --> 1:01:58.320
<v Speaker 1>So she does almost overdose and has like a dream sequence.

1:01:58.360 --> 1:01:59.880
<v Speaker 1>That's that's uh, that's kind of good.

1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, that is very good. In the meantime,

1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:06.360
<v Speaker 2>the bikers are riding around. There's yet another grocery store

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<v Speaker 2>punishment scene. Or they're just plowing through the aisles. This

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<v Speaker 2>carnation evaporated milk must suffer, you know, the marmite will pay.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're smashing all of the products, and you see

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<v Speaker 2>and you see Jane being especially evil. She's like, I, I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I want to I want to hit baby

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<v Speaker 2>carriages with my motorcycle. I just want to do the

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<v Speaker 2>most evil things I can think of.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, she run. She's on her motorcycle driving through

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<v Speaker 1>the aisle, aiming at the baby carriage, hits the baby carriage,

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<v Speaker 1>and then of course Kareem's into the like the meat

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<v Speaker 1>counter in the back. And of course these are all

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<v Speaker 1>real motorcycle stunts. So it's like they're just wiping out

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<v Speaker 1>in a in a grocery store.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what grocery store they shut this in. Was

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<v Speaker 2>it a safe way?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe?

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<v Speaker 6>So?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But Abby's along. Abby's getting cold feet at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure, like she was really I mean, no, she's

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<v Speaker 1>more than that, Like she she had already decided she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want any part of this, but now she's part

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<v Speaker 1>of this, this police scheme to trap them, which I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't completely understand how this played out.

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<v Speaker 2>Tho yeh, I didn't either, because just.

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<v Speaker 1>Suddenly, like they lay her out in the morgue and

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<v Speaker 1>they let Tom know that she's dead, I guess, so

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<v Speaker 1>that he'll come and get her. And then there we

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<v Speaker 1>get some groovy music playing and then there's a suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>we see all the police and the police inspector, including Fudge.

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<v Speaker 1>They're just they're in the like the coroners when like

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<v Speaker 1>the little cubby holes for the corpses, for the cadavers,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I guess they've been off screen killed as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that is the implication that Tom just

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<v Speaker 2>just dispatched them, as he does with nearly everyone he

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<v Speaker 2>meets now.

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<v Speaker 1>Because again he has super strength and cannot be hurt. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>They're just they're running wild. Granted they're not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do much. But then we get a scene where Shadwell

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<v Speaker 1>and Mom are talking to Tom and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what are your plans what's next. And he's like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there are a lot of police officers and teachers,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just runs through a list of like various

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<v Speaker 1>generally like small level local authority figures, and he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just going to kill all of them. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to do. We're's going to completely tear down

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<v Speaker 1>society from the bottom up.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I think even Mom, even though she's been

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<v Speaker 2>involved in a lot of evil magic, she sort of

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<v Speaker 2>has a change of heart. She's like, what have I done?

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of monster have I created?

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<v Speaker 1>And of course Shadwell is there, and the Shadwell early

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<v Speaker 1>on had mentioned had dropped that those stones that we

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<v Speaker 1>saw earlier, well, those are what's left of ancient warlocks

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<v Speaker 1>who forgot their bargain or turned their back on the

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<v Speaker 1>powers that they served. And so when she starts saying,

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<v Speaker 1>well they must, I want to back out. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be part of whatever deal I've made with whoever,

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<v Speaker 1>with the beings beyond the mirror, the thing that takes

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<v Speaker 1>the form of the frog or what have you. And

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, well, you know, there's a price to pay,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, well, I will do.

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<v Speaker 2>It, And so that's what we get in the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though the evil dead Bikers cannot be defeated by

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<v Speaker 2>conventional arms or weapons, they can be undone by ritual magic,

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<v Speaker 2>and so ultimately they I had to call in somebody's

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<v Speaker 2>mom to fix things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so yeah. The final scene is Abby's standing up

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<v Speaker 1>to them. Abby's pretended to be undead, you know, sort

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<v Speaker 1>of going along with it, but Tom suspects something's up

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<v Speaker 1>when he drives through a brick walls totally it, and

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<v Speaker 1>she goes around it. He's like, what's up. You're not dead,

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<v Speaker 1>are you? And she's like, no, I wanted to tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>And then the whole gang kind of turns on her.

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<v Speaker 1>He's reaching out to strangle her, but Mom has turned

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<v Speaker 1>off the magic, and perhaps the sun is involved as well,

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<v Speaker 1>because suddenly they start turning to stone. All the bikers

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<v Speaker 1>turn to stone right there in the hinge, and Abby

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<v Speaker 1>is the only one left alive. And then this dark

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<v Speaker 1>vehicle pulls up and a lone figure gets out of

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<v Speaker 1>it and begins walking towards her. And I believe this

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to be Shadwell.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe in his like fully realized devil form or warlock

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<v Speaker 2>form or something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So I love the ending because it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of these what's happening, what's what is the future? Is

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<v Speaker 1>Shadwell showing up now offer Abby the deal, the deal

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<v Speaker 1>that the mom has backed out on, the deal that

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<v Speaker 1>we really don't know any of the details of, which,

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<v Speaker 1>again I kind of like because again, part of the

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<v Speaker 1>film is it's about the youth. It's about the youth

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<v Speaker 1>in the world that the grown ups have created, and

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<v Speaker 1>they certainly don't understand all the ramifications and the rules

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<v Speaker 1>of that world, either the real world or certainly the

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<v Speaker 1>supernatural world that Shadwell and Mom are involved in.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know, one thing I love about the

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<v Speaker 2>ending is that, so all these biker movies are about

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<v Speaker 2>young people rebelling against authority structures. Something about the motorcycle

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<v Speaker 2>signals a kind of freedom, a kind of removal of

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<v Speaker 2>the constraints established by the authority figures around you. And

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of this movie, what you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>do is call somebody's mom to like make him stop

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<v Speaker 2>acting up. And I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And then we roll credits, and it's also fun.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a credit sequence that the divides the cast

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<v Speaker 1>up by the factions they were involved in, which I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was nice. So you get a full list of

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<v Speaker 1>the bikes, you get the the law, you also get

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<v Speaker 1>the survivors. So I really I really appreciate that. I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I saw we saw that more, certainly in modern

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<v Speaker 1>modern credits on films.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, I like that too. I like the

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<v Speaker 2>fonts too. I always write comment on good fonts.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the fonts on their their jackets are really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom I believe has like a pink and green like

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a it's kind of like a like it

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<v Speaker 1>feels very eighties the coloration on his name tag portion

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<v Speaker 1>of his his jacket. But I really like it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just surprised nobody's remade this or revisited it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so glad nobody has ultimately better. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a I think, a nearly perfect trash movie that

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<v Speaker 2>I could not ask for, a better seventies supernatural biker movie.

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<v Speaker 2>This is sort of the peak for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I agree this. I think this is the supernatural

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<v Speaker 1>biker film par excellence. So you might be wondering out there, well,

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<v Speaker 1>where can I watch Psychomania? Well, Psychomania, fortunately is widely

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<v Speaker 1>available in digital formats. Aero Video put out an absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful looking two disc blu ray of this film a

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<v Speaker 1>few years back, and you can still pick that up.

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<v Speaker 1>The soundtrack is also widely available in all formats. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're looking to stream this picture, I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>is hosted on numerous streaming platforms slash channels including shutter

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<v Speaker 1>fandor and AMC, and all of those have free trial periods.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you just want to dip in and get

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<v Speaker 1>yourself some psychomania and then and then check out, well

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<v Speaker 1>then that's certainly an option. Yeah, rev it up, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go ahead and close this out real

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<v Speaker 1>quick though, you know, since there were some suicidal elements

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<v Speaker 1>in this picture and we discussed them a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're troubled by suicidal thoughts, you are not alone.

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<v Speaker 1>In a sympathetic ear is only a phone call away.

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<v Speaker 1>In the United States, consider calling the National Suicide Prevention

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<v Speaker 1>Hotline at one eight hundred and two seven three eight

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<v Speaker 1>two five five. You can visit Suicide Prevention Lifeline dot

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<v Speaker 1>org for additional reas sources tailored towards general and specific

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<v Speaker 1>needs and communities. You'll also find a list of local

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<v Speaker 1>and international suicide hotlines at suicide dot org. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be it for this episode of Weird House Cinema,

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