Speaker 1: We were presented by wind Bet betting is a tea
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Speaker 1: the studio on the eve of the two thousand twenty
Speaker 1: two training camp with Jets offensive coordinator Mike Lafleur. How
Speaker 1: is your summer? It was good. It was a combination
Speaker 1: of just kind of checking out and relaxing, but also
Speaker 1: just a ton of family time and um, you know
Speaker 1: it's uh, like I was telling you, we never got
Speaker 1: on a plane, which was nice, especially with all the
Speaker 1: air travel. We made everyone come out to us, which
Speaker 1: they had their own problems in the airport, but uh,
Speaker 1: it was good. We we had every single day we
Speaker 1: were with our kids at some point and just watched
Speaker 1: them run around and doing the stuff you don't get
Speaker 1: to do over the next six months. What is vacation
Speaker 1: like for an offensive coordinator? From the moment the end
Speaker 1: of mandatory mini camp before now, you know, everyone kind
Speaker 1: of does a little bit different, but I for for me,
Speaker 1: I mean, You're you're gonna be thinking about ball at
Speaker 1: some point right through that break, and that's sometimes that's
Speaker 1: you know, I think we're you're gonna come up with
Speaker 1: some of your your best ideas or what you think
Speaker 1: is gonna be your best ideas. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm a big family guy, and um, I want to
Speaker 1: be present for my family, you know, so you just
Speaker 1: when you're there, you've got to be there because again
Speaker 1: for when we get back, you know, tomorrow and throughout
Speaker 1: training camp in the season, you don't get to see
Speaker 1: him very often, and we do see him, You've got
Speaker 1: a lot on your mind, you know, So in that month,
Speaker 1: I I we all as coaches, we owe it to
Speaker 1: our family, We owe it to our closest friends to
Speaker 1: to to be there, to be present, and uh, to
Speaker 1: just enjoy our our time that that we have with
Speaker 1: them in the summer. So after you enjoyed maybe a
Speaker 1: day on the water and you and Matt I put
Speaker 1: the kids to bed and maybe you're having an adult beverage,
Speaker 1: do you guys share some football stories and some football knowledge.
Speaker 1: We do, uh, probably not as much during the summer
Speaker 1: as what people would think. We we talk all the
Speaker 1: time during the season, and then we're obviously only basically
Speaker 1: talking about football, checking in on our kids, but but
Speaker 1: talking about football. But we had one um one day
Speaker 1: this uh this summer where we him and I put
Speaker 1: in quite a bit of time, you know, of of
Speaker 1: ball more so than we probably ever have in the summer,
Speaker 1: which was needed. We just were cross checking some things. Um.
Speaker 1: But also you know, we we we do play them
Speaker 1: a little bit in in mid season. Um. You obviously
Speaker 1: want them to win every single game except for the
Speaker 1: game that you have to play him and um, unfortunately
Speaker 1: but fortunately we get to play him this year, you
Speaker 1: know so, but it was good. We we again we
Speaker 1: don't try to talk too much football around the family,
Speaker 1: but we we did get sneak away for a good
Speaker 1: sixth dight hour sessions. So who set that up? The
Speaker 1: sixth date hour session? Was that coming from? You are
Speaker 1: a big brother? We we both. I mean you just
Speaker 1: kind of as as uh the off season when you
Speaker 1: when you get back going in January February after the season, Um,
Speaker 1: you just have a laundry list of stuff and you
Speaker 1: just kind of keep checking those boxes as the season
Speaker 1: goes or as the off season goes on. Um, and
Speaker 1: you know he's gonna watch us, We're gonna watch them,
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have questions, but you'd rather do
Speaker 1: it in person as a post over the phone. So
Speaker 1: it was just kind of was one of those things
Speaker 1: that uh, you know, we both wanted to get together.
Speaker 1: We both had our questions, wanted to just cross check
Speaker 1: what you know, we've been studying, what they've been audience,
Speaker 1: and see what we could integrate within our offenses. Is
Speaker 1: that going to be agonizing for the family when you
Speaker 1: guys do match up in the regular season. Was different
Speaker 1: last year because hey, training camp practices and friendly stuff,
Speaker 1: we're learning from each other, and then we have a
Speaker 1: preseason game, right my Yeah, my mom that was the
Speaker 1: most relaxed she's ever been for for a game between uh,
Speaker 1: you know, with with Matt on one side and myself
Speaker 1: on the other. But it's, um, it's it's not real
Speaker 1: fun for the family. Um. Some people have a little
Speaker 1: bit more fun with it than others. My mom does
Speaker 1: not like it at all. But we're kind of getting
Speaker 1: used to it now. You know. In two thousands seventeen, uh,
Speaker 1: my first year in San Francisco, he was with the Rams,
Speaker 1: so we played him twice that year eighteen he went
Speaker 1: to Tennessee. We didn't have to play him, and then um,
Speaker 1: nineteen uh, we played him twice. We played him in
Speaker 1: the thick of the regular season, and then we played
Speaker 1: him in the NFC Championship and those were especially that
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game that was that was pretty rough on
Speaker 1: my on my mom and some of the people in
Speaker 1: the family. But it is what it is. It's it's
Speaker 1: you know, in this case, the jetspers the Packers and
Speaker 1: you know we're Um, you wouldn't want any other way,
Speaker 1: So it'll it'll be fun. Let's talk about this offense
Speaker 1: a little bit. You've always said anybody who talks, even
Speaker 1: going back to San Francisco and Kyle Shanahan, that it's
Speaker 1: predicated on running the football. When you hear that, how
Speaker 1: accurate is that? And why does it set everything up?
Speaker 1: Why does it set the wheels in motion? I mean,
Speaker 1: it just makes you not one dimensional, you know. So
Speaker 1: you always want to get the ground game going. You
Speaker 1: get the ground game going, you control the clock a
Speaker 1: little bit, you keep the defense off the field, you
Speaker 1: keep them fresh, and it's just playing playing team ball. Um,
Speaker 1: some weeks you're gonna be able to run the ball
Speaker 1: better than other weeks, a because the scheme be because
Speaker 1: maybe some of the players on the other side are
Speaker 1: pretty damn good at stopping the run. But um, like
Speaker 1: you said, it does set everything up. If you can
Speaker 1: get a run game going, all of a sudden, the
Speaker 1: defense has a trigger a little bit more. And now
Speaker 1: you're opening up that space, uh, you know, behind the
Speaker 1: linebackers in front of you know, the safeties in the
Speaker 1: corners to hit some of those explosive intermediate plays and
Speaker 1: you know, to get to get guys running out in
Speaker 1: space and you make a guy miss and that's where
Speaker 1: those exposives, you know, come about. It's kind of an
Speaker 1: old school philosophy though, right because I think when people
Speaker 1: think of this offense, they think passed first. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have the ability to do yeah you you you
Speaker 1: never want to go in like we want to run
Speaker 1: the ball, we also want to throw the ball. We
Speaker 1: want to be explosive in both facets of it. Um. Again,
Speaker 1: it's just trying not to be one dimensional. You know.
Speaker 1: We all feel like we can get on the board
Speaker 1: and drop up and scheme up some really good place.
Speaker 1: It's but at the same time, when you're throwing the ball,
Speaker 1: the offensive line has to block a very good defensive line.
Speaker 1: The receivers have to separate, you know, against good secondary,
Speaker 1: the tight ends against safeties. A lot of things have
Speaker 1: to happen right. Uh, you know for a pass game
Speaker 1: to be successful in the run game, yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of things have to happen right too. But uh, there's
Speaker 1: a there's a few variables that are taken out of it,
Speaker 1: you know, uh, because the backside might miss a block,
Speaker 1: but it's outside zone of the front side, and if
Speaker 1: the first combination gets are blocked, it really didn't even
Speaker 1: matter what happened on the backside, you know. So there's
Speaker 1: just uh, there's less variables, but equally as hard to
Speaker 1: uh have success. Zach Wilson's athleticism, How does that change
Speaker 1: what you do as a play caller because he's so
Speaker 1: comfortable on the move, Because you have coach guys who
Speaker 1: are a little bit less mobile, want to live more
Speaker 1: so in the pocket. But here's here's a guy who
Speaker 1: we saw that a little bit in his first year,
Speaker 1: and I know that we're going to continue to see
Speaker 1: that his career goes on. Yeah, you know, there's he
Speaker 1: there's no secret that when when he goes off schedule,
Speaker 1: he's pretty talented. And so you want to you want
Speaker 1: to be able to build um not necessarily going off schedule.
Speaker 1: You want him to do that organically, right, like I
Speaker 1: just want to play breaks down. If if I call
Speaker 1: a bad play, don't make a bad play worse. So
Speaker 1: if that means you go off schedule and go make
Speaker 1: a play, go make a play. If that means throw
Speaker 1: it away, throw it away. You gotta do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do in that moment. And that's that's just playing sports.
Speaker 1: That's playing quarterback. Um. But like you said, I mean
Speaker 1: you want to be able to also design plays. Obviously
Speaker 1: the easy ones are the keepers or the nakeds, the
Speaker 1: boots what people call them. But there's also different ways
Speaker 1: to get him on the edge. Um. You know, we
Speaker 1: uh we mess with some wrinkles this offseason and the
Speaker 1: o t as we did a lot of studying on
Speaker 1: on some things to to kind of, you know, get
Speaker 1: him off the spot a little bit, if you will,
Speaker 1: uh to to let him do some things that are
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Speaker 1: D seven zero seven one one seven what about up front?
Speaker 1: And we'll get to the skills of players here in
Speaker 1: a minute. But what do you think about that Gary
Speaker 1: combination Interior and lank In Tomlinson. Let's start with him
Speaker 1: because you were with him in San Francisco. Why why
Speaker 1: was that such a huge sign? He um because he
Speaker 1: shows up every single day. Uh, you know, it's there's
Speaker 1: it's known just the track record of of you know
Speaker 1: how he's out playing every single song. He doesn't miss.
Speaker 1: But what people don't see is, uh, he doesn't miss
Speaker 1: practices either. He is always available. And not only is
Speaker 1: he available, he's very talented at what he does. He
Speaker 1: brings the right mindset every day on and off the field.
Speaker 1: He's a great locker room guy. Um. And on top
Speaker 1: of it, you know, uh, when we got him in
Speaker 1: San Francisco, he's with Detroit before that, Um, he didn't
Speaker 1: have a ton of success in terms of a lot
Speaker 1: of wins. Detroit wasn't winning a lot, and then we
Speaker 1: got to San Francisco. We weren't winning a lot early on,
Speaker 1: and he saw a for lack of better term, or
Speaker 1: a rebuilding San Francisco from where we were to uh,
Speaker 1: you know where they've brought San Francisco. Now, he's been
Speaker 1: to two NFC Championship games. He's been to one Super Bowl. Uh.
Speaker 1: So anytime you can bring guys in like that that
Speaker 1: have that have one and been in those locker rooms,
Speaker 1: that have won at a high level, it's only going
Speaker 1: to help everybody else because he's been there and he's
Speaker 1: done that. How unique is it in terms of being
Speaker 1: a young player. Elijah Vera Tucker his attitude where he
Speaker 1: played pretty well first season. You guys said, hey, we're
Speaker 1: going out free Acacly, we're gonna bring it like in
Speaker 1: towns And oh, by the way, we wouldn't mind you
Speaker 1: moving over to right guard, and he says, yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: definitely move over. And what can I learn from him? Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that's totally And that's you know when we when we
Speaker 1: kind of asked him, were brought up the idea, it's
Speaker 1: it's just a bt S mentality, just kind of yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm good coach, whatever you need, you know, And
Speaker 1: it's true. And you know, you want to keep guys
Speaker 1: as much in the same position as possible, no doubt,
Speaker 1: just so they get comfortable. But that's that's not always
Speaker 1: the reality. There's so many injuries, there's so much stuff
Speaker 1: that happens that you are going to get shuffled around
Speaker 1: a little bit. And um, for the reason of moving
Speaker 1: him over the right to bring in Lake and Um,
Speaker 1: it just made sense. And you know, to to bring
Speaker 1: in a guy like Lake in and have a BT
Speaker 1: going in that second year, Um, you couldn't be I
Speaker 1: know myself and and John Benton, you couldn't be as
Speaker 1: excited to to have that that guard tandem there and
Speaker 1: kind of governing in the middle. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 1: as cool of a guard center guard combination that that
Speaker 1: I personally have been around. Yeah, and people are gonna
Speaker 1: be asking you a lot of questions this summer, especially
Speaker 1: early in the summer about what's happening at tackle. What
Speaker 1: do you think the competition is going to do for
Speaker 1: both of these guys. George Fan you know he wants
Speaker 1: to stay at left tackle. McKay Beckton was clear here
Speaker 1: in the spring that he wants he's hearing the criticisms outside.
Speaker 1: He wants people to eat their words. Yeah, no, it's
Speaker 1: um And I've I've answered this before in terms of
Speaker 1: you know, um kind of how that's all gonna play out.
Speaker 1: It'll play itself out just organically. We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: lot of practice out there. UM. You know, they'll be
Speaker 1: moving around. Uh. Like we've said, George's earned the right
Speaker 1: to uh to play some left tackle and to show
Speaker 1: what he can do. He had a he had a
Speaker 1: tremendous year last year. He only got better as the
Speaker 1: year went on. He was playing his best ball in
Speaker 1: that back half of the year. Um. He approaches every
Speaker 1: day like a true professional. UM. And you know, so
Speaker 1: he's earned that right and get McKay back will be
Speaker 1: will be huge. You know. Um, it was unfortunate how
Speaker 1: it went down last year in that first game and
Speaker 1: just you know, it's a that's a that's a large
Speaker 1: man with a lower body injury. It's you and I
Speaker 1: don't won't understand like he's he's he's that big, you know. Uh,
Speaker 1: so we don't know how it's gonna be coming back
Speaker 1: from one of those injuries when you're when you are,
Speaker 1: um the size he is. But he's feeling better. Um,
Speaker 1: just excited to get him going. You know. In August
Speaker 1: we talked in Mobile, Alabama at the Senior Bowl. Uh,
Speaker 1: totally different landscape now, especially for your young quarterback. Can
Speaker 1: you talk about what is around him some of the
Speaker 1: offseason additions and how that is going to possibly lead
Speaker 1: him to having maybe the mentality of that I don't
Speaker 1: have to do too much here, just play within the
Speaker 1: system because we got a lot of guys who can
Speaker 1: do things with the full totally you know. And that's
Speaker 1: that's how you want all quarterbacks to be. That. You
Speaker 1: don't want them to feel like they have to do everything,
Speaker 1: because once you start pressing and trying to do stuff, Um,
Speaker 1: that's when bad stuff a lot of times happen. Some
Speaker 1: good stuff will happen, but but a lot of times
Speaker 1: bad stuff will happen. Uh. You want him to play
Speaker 1: within the offense, whatever offense that is, and like I said,
Speaker 1: when you, um, when when I call the bad play,
Speaker 1: don't make a bad play worse. And so what does
Speaker 1: that mean? It means you go make the best play
Speaker 1: for the Jets at that time. And Zach, you can
Speaker 1: do that at a very high level. When I do
Speaker 1: call those bad plays. Sometimes hopefully I do call a
Speaker 1: bad play. So you can just go go do that.
Speaker 1: But like I said, just answer your question. He you know,
Speaker 1: he's got some pieces around him that that Joe and
Speaker 1: his staff it did an awesome job of of adding
Speaker 1: for for this organization, and um, you know it's only
Speaker 1: gonna help him on the field. What about the tight
Speaker 1: end position? Complete overhaul? There such an important position for
Speaker 1: you guys in San Francisco previously when you bring in
Speaker 1: guys like you, Zama, you mentioned Cockland before your draft Rocker. Uh,
Speaker 1: what can the tight end not only do for a quarterback,
Speaker 1: but do for a quarterback in your offense? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, they the easy thing is the
Speaker 1: security blanket, right but uh uh, that's you know, you've
Speaker 1: got those bigger bodies kind of over the middle when
Speaker 1: you're when you're looking deep and then you're checking that
Speaker 1: ball down. Uh, you're getting it too, you know, some
Speaker 1: of these bigger bodies, they're surehanded. The cool part about
Speaker 1: the guys that we brought in, you know, starting with
Speaker 1: c J again very similar to Lake in Um, he
Speaker 1: saw it from the ground up in Cincinnati. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: obviously going to the Super Bowl last year. So you're
Speaker 1: bringing in a guy that we've heard was a great
Speaker 1: locker room guy. That was probably an understatement. He is
Speaker 1: a phenomenal locker room guy. Um. So it's it's just
Speaker 1: been awesome to get to know him and and you know,
Speaker 1: to to watch him within this offense canna be pretty fun.
Speaker 1: And again, just being in a locker room that went
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl, bringing in that knowledge of of
Speaker 1: those big games and and what it's gonna take week
Speaker 1: in and week out. Um, that's gonna be so valuable
Speaker 1: for so many young guys that we have on this team.
Speaker 1: And then you look at Conklind to be able to
Speaker 1: bring into which was incredible by again by Joe and
Speaker 1: his staff. Uh. The thing about Conklind and Ill again,
Speaker 1: I'll relate it to the Lake and he he shows
Speaker 1: up every day, he's I think he's missed I think
Speaker 1: one game in four years. Uh, he was out there
Speaker 1: every single day in O t A s like he
Speaker 1: he doesn't get nicked up, you know, knock on wood,
Speaker 1: but like just his body, the way he trains whatnot. Um.
Speaker 1: I truly believe his best days are ahead of him too.
Speaker 1: You know, he saw his first two years it didn't
Speaker 1: play as much at tight end, and then the third
Speaker 1: year had a pretty good year. Then last year kind
Speaker 1: of exploded in terms of production and all that. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to put a number or anything like that
Speaker 1: on what his production will be, but I just I
Speaker 1: believe his best days are ahead. He just works too
Speaker 1: hard at it, he cares too much about it, and
Speaker 1: he's talented. Usama he played with the second year quarterback
Speaker 1: last year and Joe Burrow. I'm not comparents act to
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, nor would that be fair, but is it
Speaker 1: kind of cool from your perspective that, Yeah, we got
Speaker 1: a veteran, we got a character guy, we got a
Speaker 1: guy with postseason experience. We've seen he's a guy who's
Speaker 1: seen it turned around from the last team he's at.
Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, he had experienced with he
Speaker 1: experienced success with a young core. Yeah, no, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt about it, you know. I mean, he's he's seen
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks in these years there just being
Speaker 1: in the league as long as he has, not that
Speaker 1: he's been in too long, but he's you know, seeing
Speaker 1: the quarterback carousel there in Cincinnati a little bit. Now
Speaker 1: they got the stability they got with with Joe Um
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he saw the development from year one
Speaker 1: to year two. Um. He's a football guy. So even
Speaker 1: though he was with Cincinnati, he still knew what was
Speaker 1: going on with the Jets. He's just there's just guys
Speaker 1: that know what's going on around the league and so Um,
Speaker 1: albeit he wasn't in the in the in the building
Speaker 1: last year, he knows, uh what a rookie quarterback goes through.
Speaker 1: He knows what Zach went through. And you know, like
Speaker 1: you just said, I mean he saw what Joe did
Speaker 1: in the second year. Not trying to, like you said,
Speaker 1: compare or anything like that, but it'll be Um, he'll
Speaker 1: be a good sounding board and good guidance for for
Speaker 1: Zach in the second year. What do you think of
Speaker 1: the pieces that receiver if health is there, Corey Davis,
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, we saw his production, you guys, draft Garrett Wilson,
Speaker 1: Uh Town overall, Brexon Burials resigns. Jeff Smith quietly really
Speaker 1: had a nice spring. Denzel Man's still here as well.
Speaker 1: I know you guys thought took some steps forwards throughout
Speaker 1: the spring, and we can go on a little bit. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's it's a cool group. It's a talented group.
Speaker 1: It's a young group. You know, outside of really uh
Speaker 1: Corey and Braxton. Uh, there hasn't been a lot of
Speaker 1: games played there, and that's uh, you know, at that position,
Speaker 1: coaching receivers for two years, there's there's something to be
Speaker 1: said about the amount of time spent on on that field.
Speaker 1: You just it's so different than the college game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's so different that the amount of bump
Speaker 1: man and man covers that you're gonna see every single Sunday,
Speaker 1: it takes time and and just uh in reps um.
Speaker 1: So it'll be fun to watch these guys grow. Uh.
Speaker 1: We're gonna lean on Braxton and Corey in terms of
Speaker 1: just getting the young guys up to speed. Even though
Speaker 1: Elijah is going to a second year, he still missed
Speaker 1: a handful of games last year and we all saw,
Speaker 1: you know, how he kind of took off there in
Speaker 1: the middle of the year and it was unfortunate what happened.
Speaker 1: He's still a young football player, guarantee young football or
Speaker 1: mimsy's a young football player. Um, Jeff Smith was a
Speaker 1: he's a quarterback, you know, up until he gets to
Speaker 1: Boston College and you know he Um he played some
Speaker 1: good ball first last year and you're you know, alluded
Speaker 1: to it in the spring. I thought I thought he
Speaker 1: had the uh, the best spring out of probably anyone
Speaker 1: on our offense. Um. I'm excited to watch him carry
Speaker 1: that over into training camp. So um. You know again,
Speaker 1: it's a fun group. It's a young group. They're hungry,
Speaker 1: uh and uh it's it's gonna be fun to watch
Speaker 1: the girl. How would you characterize yourself as a play class?
Speaker 1: Try to put our guys in the best position to
Speaker 1: be successful. You know. Um, I'd like to think I'm aggressive.
Speaker 1: I want to be more aggressive, but again I've learned
Speaker 1: that through Um. You know the guy that's probably taught
Speaker 1: me the most in this business, and Kyle Shanahan. You know, Uh,
Speaker 1: he's as aggressive as they come. Um, he's not gonna stop.
Speaker 1: And you know he's even with one of the better
Speaker 1: defenses in football in San Francisco last few years. He's
Speaker 1: gonna try to go score every single time they got
Speaker 1: the ball. And you're gonna do that by being aggressive,
Speaker 1: getting the uh um, the ball in your playmaker's hands
Speaker 1: and letting him go play. So that's what I took
Speaker 1: from Kyle, amongst many other things, but that's that's one
Speaker 1: thing that really stands out as a play calls for him,
Speaker 1: that that you try to carry over. I love that
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Speaker 1: one one seven zick, where did he grow most? If
Speaker 1: you had to point to one thing last year and
Speaker 1: now after the spring, what are you guys really gonna
Speaker 1: be honing in with him here throughout his second training
Speaker 1: camp because he does his feet underneath him now yeah,
Speaker 1: no he Uh. What's cool about going in the second
Speaker 1: training camp is now the unknown of what NFL football
Speaker 1: is like that he he knows he played a season
Speaker 1: last year. I'll be missed the four games. He's gone
Speaker 1: through a training camp, he's gone through a preseason, So
Speaker 1: you don't have to even teach that or watch him
Speaker 1: organically kind of grow into that. He he knows what
Speaker 1: to expect when he steps on it on that grass,
Speaker 1: you know, on on Wednesday. Uh. So that's awesome. So
Speaker 1: what what can you really focus in on? You can
Speaker 1: focus in on the job that needs to be done
Speaker 1: for his position and for for him, um being able
Speaker 1: to have this offseason to go through our offense again,
Speaker 1: to clean a lot of things up. You know, that's
Speaker 1: every sit, whether you're the best offense or the worst offense,
Speaker 1: you're always find just trying to find ways to clean
Speaker 1: up your own offense. Add do it take away, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, adapt to what the defenses around the league
Speaker 1: are doing. Uh. We feel like we did that this
Speaker 1: this offseason. We feel like he has a good grasp
Speaker 1: on it. For him, it's just again just getting out
Speaker 1: there and getting those reps. Um. We we've put a
Speaker 1: big emphasis on just getting our eyes in the right spot,
Speaker 1: not worrying about the eight guys over the left when
Speaker 1: the concept is over to our right. We have to
Speaker 1: focus on what's going on over here, and you know,
Speaker 1: going through your progression and and um, not having to
Speaker 1: know too much, getting your eyes in the right speed,
Speaker 1: uh spot, having nice active feet and going to playing football.
Speaker 1: That speaks to sensatiable appetite. He can't get enough right.
Speaker 1: So it's that it's a hard for you as a coach,
Speaker 1: or is it hard processing at times for him? Because
Speaker 1: he does want to understand everything. Where you're saying, that's
Speaker 1: a coach, you don't have to take it all in
Speaker 1: because if it's like this over here, you can let
Speaker 1: it go right and and that's where you're right. He
Speaker 1: he wants to know everything. But what I do believe
Speaker 1: he has learned over this last year. Is that is
Speaker 1: knowing everything, knowing that I don't need to worry about
Speaker 1: this side of the field with this particular concept, you know,
Speaker 1: we we call it across the board reads within our system,
Speaker 1: Green Bay, l A, San Francisco, the Dolphins, probably Cincinnati. UM,
Speaker 1: where you're not even you're not there's nothing that could
Speaker 1: even take you to the other side of a progression.
Speaker 1: You're always starting one side, no matter what the coverage is,
Speaker 1: and then your eyes will dictate and when guys are
Speaker 1: covered to go across the board, and then that stuff
Speaker 1: is gonna matter. But you're gonna throw an open holes.
Speaker 1: You don't even know who's under You're just throwing an
Speaker 1: open holes and you're playing fast. And you've had so
Speaker 1: many reps at it through O t A s, through
Speaker 1: training camp, through the preseason, through all the walkthroughs that
Speaker 1: are so important for a quarterback and an offense and
Speaker 1: a defense and a team uh to get meaningful reps.
Speaker 1: You know, so UM, I do believe that is he
Speaker 1: is trying to soak it all in, but he's understood
Speaker 1: that that is what's soaking it all in is is
Speaker 1: not worrying about so much a pet peeve of mine
Speaker 1: is when people chart passes during training camp and they'll say, wow,
Speaker 1: Wilson was seven eight and seven on seven and he
Speaker 1: was nine at sixteen, and team periods and things like that,
Speaker 1: because my argument on that, my counter has always been,
Speaker 1: you don't know what you guys are doing as far
Speaker 1: as installation as they're concerned. You don't know what the
Speaker 1: defense might be thrown at him. Is a different look.
Speaker 1: With that being said, can you talk about the situations
Speaker 1: that you guys do out here on the practice field,
Speaker 1: because sometimes we might be watching a team period it's
Speaker 1: third long, and you might be telling them I don't know,
Speaker 1: you might be saying, hey, go past the sticks, no
Speaker 1: matter what. It's third, Nate, you gotta get you gotta
Speaker 1: get a fetially. You know, there's there's that that that
Speaker 1: question could be answering about one hour, because I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's so much that goes into a practice and
Speaker 1: and prepping your quarterbacks to be prepared to play on
Speaker 1: Sundays when it gets the regacine. But you're also you're
Speaker 1: not only just trying to prep them, You're you're trying
Speaker 1: to put the receivers in different spots to give them
Speaker 1: different looks to be able to again check the boxes
Speaker 1: that they're going through. All of it old line, you're
Speaker 1: taking guys in, you're taking guys out, You're running different
Speaker 1: choice and option routes with guys that haven't had haven't
Speaker 1: had those options yet with Zach or with the other quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So that's going to dictate, you know, the completion percentage,
Speaker 1: I think when when ultimately, yeah, she want a high
Speaker 1: completion percentage right like organically over the month or five
Speaker 1: weeks of training camp, Like the higher it is, the better.
Speaker 1: Obviously he's playing. But there's so many variables that we
Speaker 1: don't really look at it day to day. You're just
Speaker 1: looking at the play. Is the quarterback making the best
Speaker 1: decision for that play? And there were times last year
Speaker 1: when he would make a mistake. I'd call the same
Speaker 1: play a few plays there, knowing that it's probably not
Speaker 1: gonna be very good against the defense. I just want
Speaker 1: to see if he's gonna make my bad play worse,
Speaker 1: you know, and and any of the quarterbacks just to
Speaker 1: see if they're learning on the fly as well. So
Speaker 1: there's there's times out there you're not really concerned what
Speaker 1: the defense is doing, unlike on Sundays when we play Baltimore,
Speaker 1: We're always gonna be concerned what the defense is doing.
Speaker 1: When we go against our defense, there's gonna be plays.
Speaker 1: They are gonna be absolute dead plays, And I don't
Speaker 1: really care. I want to see hither, check it down,
Speaker 1: go off schedule, throw the ball away, do do whatever's best.
Speaker 1: That's gonna play into the completion percentage that might not
Speaker 1: be as good that day. You know. So you got
Speaker 1: a new head coach in the division, Mike McDaniel. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how do you think he's gonna do? And something struck
Speaker 1: me when we were in Mobile. Robert was asked about
Speaker 1: him and he raved about him. Um, you were on
Speaker 1: that staff with him, and I think you would call
Speaker 1: him a good friend. Yeah, what is he gonna bring
Speaker 1: to the table? He's uh, Mike is uh kind of
Speaker 1: well documented Mike McDaniels. Uh, he's gonna be Mike. And Um,
Speaker 1: I've been with Mike, uh since two thousand fourteen. Before that,
Speaker 1: he was with my brother, um two thousand eight on
Speaker 1: through Houston, Washington. So I've known Mike for you know,
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen years. Um, one of my best friends, not
Speaker 1: just in this in this profession, but in life he
Speaker 1: is such a good UH coach. That's that's an understatement. Um,
Speaker 1: the players respect him. He's gonna be who he is
Speaker 1: within his own personality every single day. He's never gonna change.
Speaker 1: But he's a good human. He was such a good
Speaker 1: UH friend to have in the building. Again, going back
Speaker 1: to two thousand fourteen, every year I thought, we just
Speaker 1: got closer and closer to our time in San Francisco. Um,
Speaker 1: you know it. Uh, it wasn't fun leaving him because
Speaker 1: he was I was so close with him, but it
Speaker 1: was just, you know, obviously time to move on. The
Speaker 1: great opportunity, and it was his time to move on.
Speaker 1: And what a great opportunity he has. So I love Mike.
Speaker 1: I wish him, you know, nothing but the best. Everyone
Speaker 1: roots for Mike, you know. Unfortunately he is in our division.
Speaker 1: So just like the Packers, I hope they win every game,
Speaker 1: but versus I hope Miami. I hope Miami wins every
Speaker 1: game except for you know, if it affects the Jets.
Speaker 1: So are two games and any other game that that
Speaker 1: it would affect us pissing wound up in the division,
Speaker 1: because yeah, it's great, your buddy, It's got a high
Speaker 1: coaching job and well deserved. But I'm not even just
Speaker 1: thinking that you've got to compete against him. I'm thinking
Speaker 1: in terms of you guys have might have similar thoughts
Speaker 1: on personnel systems, so down the line free agency and draft,
Speaker 1: you know that all No, that's no, it's no. It's
Speaker 1: a good question because that that is true. You know,
Speaker 1: like that did when he got the job, You're not
Speaker 1: thinking about the division. You're just so so happy for
Speaker 1: him and his wife, Katie and their family, UM, that
Speaker 1: that he's getting this opportunity. So you didn't even care
Speaker 1: where it was. But then once you know, you processed
Speaker 1: all that, like we can't talk about free agency, we
Speaker 1: can't talk about the draft. We really can't even talk
Speaker 1: too much about schemes because we are in the division,
Speaker 1: you know, and and that is what it is or
Speaker 1: where this is the Jets and we're worried about the Jets. UM.
Speaker 1: It was very similar to two thousand uh twenty in
Speaker 1: San Francisco because we played Green Bay in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1: We both had high expectations going into that twenty year,
Speaker 1: So Matt and I didn't talk too much about free
Speaker 1: agency and some of the draft guys and all that
Speaker 1: didn't even talk too much scheme that year. Um so
Speaker 1: even though we were in the same division, we just
Speaker 1: felt like we're going to see each other, you know,
Speaker 1: somewhere in the playoffs. Um so yeah, I mean that
Speaker 1: that is kind of what it is. But but ultimately,
Speaker 1: oh well, it doesn't matter. Again, I hope, I hope
Speaker 1: they have so much success. Except for the two that
Speaker 1: we have. We had Brick in your seat. We also
Speaker 1: had brand Boyer And I'm asking all the coordinators this,
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite training camp memory, something that
Speaker 1: stands out or experience, weather good or bad. Player brought
Speaker 1: up two days or basically three days to practicing, And yeah,
Speaker 1: those those two have. Um, those those guys have different experiences. All.
Speaker 1: You know, they played a lot of years and they
Speaker 1: played before there were a lot of the rules that
Speaker 1: we have now. Um to you know, putting me on
Speaker 1: the spot favorite training camp moment, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna answer that. Last year was really cool going
Speaker 1: to Green Bay, Um, you know, just being able to
Speaker 1: to practice in that environment, going against a team that
Speaker 1: had been the NFC Championship two years in a row.
Speaker 1: So for a very very young team and a rookie
Speaker 1: quarterback and a new staff to be able to kind
Speaker 1: of just see how things are done there. Uh, that
Speaker 1: was really cool. And you know, we had a lot
Speaker 1: of family and stuff there, and again you don't have
Speaker 1: that that pressure of an actual regular season game. But
Speaker 1: I'll go back to two thousand fourteen, my first year
Speaker 1: in a training camp. You know, you don't really know
Speaker 1: what to expect. Although Matt had been in the in
Speaker 1: in the league for eight years, so you kind of
Speaker 1: that was all I knew. Uh, But I mean we
Speaker 1: were doing special teams. I was at Cleveland, we were
Speaker 1: doing special teams walk through. Tell what I felt was
Speaker 1: nine thirty ten o'clock at night, uh, in in the
Speaker 1: I mean, guys can't even keep their eyes open. I
Speaker 1: couldn't keep my eyes up. I mean, those days were long.
Speaker 1: And then you're turning around, You're you're getting in bed
Speaker 1: by you know, say, midnight, and you're back in the
Speaker 1: office at five am. And that was five weeks. And
Speaker 1: fast forward to two thousand twenty two, and how different
Speaker 1: the league is with the training camp and in the
Speaker 1: amount of time that you have with these guys. I mean,
Speaker 1: the vets around the league are out of the building
Speaker 1: by seven seven fifteen. It's and I'm not saying one's
Speaker 1: better than the other. It's just so different. So I
Speaker 1: do you know, as as new QCs come and go,
Speaker 1: I always like to remind them. Even I'm not one
Speaker 1: of the old guys. But in two thousand fourteen, it
Speaker 1: was a lot different than uh than it is now.
Speaker 1: And what keeps you going? What's the must drink your
Speaker 1: coffee guy? I'm a coffee guy. I'm a coffee guy.
Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know. I just ordered a new,
Speaker 1: uh new Juror coffee machine. I just ordered it two
Speaker 1: days ago. So salez always I've always had one at home. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm a huge coffee guy. I love love coffee, love
Speaker 1: love good coffee. And uh so we ordered a machine.
Speaker 1: Salad had one, but it's like getting maintenance or whatever.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to mess with it. He has his
Speaker 1: door shut a lot, so that that's going to ruin
Speaker 1: my coffee and take. So I just said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna order my own. So I got one. Comment
Speaker 1: is supposed to be here this weekend. I don't wanna
Speaker 1: have to come down to get a brew. Come on down.
Speaker 1: It's it's getting jury. It's good coffee. Thanks, appreciate it. Yeah,