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Speaker 1: two training camp with Jets offensive coordinator Mike Lafleur. How

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Speaker 1: is your summer? It was good. It was a combination

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Speaker 1: it was good. We we had every single day we

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Speaker 1: to do over the next six months. What is vacation

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Speaker 1: We do, uh, probably not as much during the summer

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Speaker 1: which was needed. We just were cross checking some things. Um.

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Speaker 1: But also you know, we we we do play them

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Speaker 1: now after the spring, what are you guys really gonna

429
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:58,399
Speaker 1: be honing in with him here throughout his second training

430
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,600
Speaker 1: camp because he does his feet underneath him now yeah,

431
00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,040
Speaker 1: no he Uh. What's cool about going in the second

432
00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,640
Speaker 1: training camp is now the unknown of what NFL football

433
00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,000
Speaker 1: is like that he he knows he played a season

434
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,680
Speaker 1: last year. I'll be missed the four games. He's gone

435
00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 1: through a training camp, he's gone through a preseason, So

436
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 1: you don't have to even teach that or watch him

437
00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,119
Speaker 1: organically kind of grow into that. He he knows what

438
00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 1: to expect when he steps on it on that grass,

439
00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, on on Wednesday. Uh. So that's awesome. So

440
00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,080
Speaker 1: what what can you really focus in on? You can

441
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,000
Speaker 1: focus in on the job that needs to be done

442
00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,800
Speaker 1: for his position and for for him, um being able

443
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:35,920
Speaker 1: to have this offseason to go through our offense again,

444
00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,640
Speaker 1: to clean a lot of things up. You know, that's

445
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,240
Speaker 1: every sit, whether you're the best offense or the worst offense,

446
00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,520
Speaker 1: you're always find just trying to find ways to clean

447
00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,680
Speaker 1: up your own offense. Add do it take away, Uh,

448
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 1: you know, adapt to what the defenses around the league

449
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 1: are doing. Uh. We feel like we did that this

450
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 1: this offseason. We feel like he has a good grasp

451
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 1: on it. For him, it's just again just getting out

452
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: there and getting those reps. Um. We we've put a

453
00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,640
Speaker 1: big emphasis on just getting our eyes in the right spot,

454
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 1: not worrying about the eight guys over the left when

455
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:04,320
Speaker 1: the concept is over to our right. We have to

456
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 1: focus on what's going on over here, and you know,

457
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,000
Speaker 1: going through your progression and and um, not having to

458
00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,040
Speaker 1: know too much, getting your eyes in the right speed,

459
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 1: uh spot, having nice active feet and going to playing football.

460
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,120
Speaker 1: That speaks to sensatiable appetite. He can't get enough right.

461
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 1: So it's that it's a hard for you as a coach,

462
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,399
Speaker 1: or is it hard processing at times for him? Because

463
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 1: he does want to understand everything. Where you're saying, that's

464
00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 1: a coach, you don't have to take it all in

465
00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,919
Speaker 1: because if it's like this over here, you can let

466
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,080
Speaker 1: it go right and and that's where you're right. He

467
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,679
Speaker 1: he wants to know everything. But what I do believe

468
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: he has learned over this last year. Is that is

469
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,400
Speaker 1: knowing everything, knowing that I don't need to worry about

470
00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,960
Speaker 1: this side of the field with this particular concept, you know,

471
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,479
Speaker 1: we we call it across the board reads within our system,

472
00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:56,600
Speaker 1: Green Bay, l A, San Francisco, the Dolphins, probably Cincinnati. UM,

473
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 1: where you're not even you're not there's nothing that could

474
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,760
Speaker 1: even take you to the other side of a progression.

475
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,240
Speaker 1: You're always starting one side, no matter what the coverage is,

476
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 1: and then your eyes will dictate and when guys are

477
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: covered to go across the board, and then that stuff

478
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,680
Speaker 1: is gonna matter. But you're gonna throw an open holes.

479
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,439
Speaker 1: You don't even know who's under You're just throwing an

480
00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 1: open holes and you're playing fast. And you've had so

481
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: many reps at it through O t A s, through

482
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 1: training camp, through the preseason, through all the walkthroughs that

483
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: are so important for a quarterback and an offense and

484
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 1: a defense and a team uh to get meaningful reps.

485
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,919
Speaker 1: You know, so UM, I do believe that is he

486
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: is trying to soak it all in, but he's understood

487
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: that that is what's soaking it all in is is

488
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: not worrying about so much a pet peeve of mine

489
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: is when people chart passes during training camp and they'll say, wow,

490
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: Wilson was seven eight and seven on seven and he

491
00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 1: was nine at sixteen, and team periods and things like that,

492
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 1: because my argument on that, my counter has always been,

493
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 1: you don't know what you guys are doing as far

494
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 1: as installation as they're concerned. You don't know what the

495
00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 1: defense might be thrown at him. Is a different look.

496
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: With that being said, can you talk about the situations

497
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 1: that you guys do out here on the practice field,

498
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: because sometimes we might be watching a team period it's

499
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: third long, and you might be telling them I don't know,

500
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: you might be saying, hey, go past the sticks, no

501
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 1: matter what. It's third, Nate, you gotta get you gotta

502
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 1: get a fetially. You know, there's there's that that that

503
00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 1: question could be answering about one hour, because I mean,

504
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: there's there's so much that goes into a practice and

505
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: and prepping your quarterbacks to be prepared to play on

506
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,919
Speaker 1: Sundays when it gets the regacine. But you're also you're

507
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: not only just trying to prep them, You're you're trying

508
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 1: to put the receivers in different spots to give them

509
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: different looks to be able to again check the boxes

510
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,400
Speaker 1: that they're going through. All of it old line, you're

511
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 1: taking guys in, you're taking guys out, You're running different

512
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 1: choice and option routes with guys that haven't had haven't

513
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,160
Speaker 1: had those options yet with Zach or with the other quarterbacks.

514
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: So that's going to dictate, you know, the completion percentage,

515
00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: I think when when ultimately, yeah, she want a high

516
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: completion percentage right like organically over the month or five

517
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 1: weeks of training camp, Like the higher it is, the better.

518
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,439
Speaker 1: Obviously he's playing. But there's so many variables that we

519
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: don't really look at it day to day. You're just

520
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,240
Speaker 1: looking at the play. Is the quarterback making the best

521
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: decision for that play? And there were times last year

522
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: when he would make a mistake. I'd call the same

523
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: play a few plays there, knowing that it's probably not

524
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 1: gonna be very good against the defense. I just want

525
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,720
Speaker 1: to see if he's gonna make my bad play worse,

526
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: you know, and and any of the quarterbacks just to

527
00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 1: see if they're learning on the fly as well. So

528
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 1: there's there's times out there you're not really concerned what

529
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 1: the defense is doing, unlike on Sundays when we play Baltimore,

530
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,360
Speaker 1: We're always gonna be concerned what the defense is doing.

531
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 1: When we go against our defense, there's gonna be plays.

532
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: They are gonna be absolute dead plays, And I don't

533
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: really care. I want to see hither, check it down,

534
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 1: go off schedule, throw the ball away, do do whatever's best.

535
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: That's gonna play into the completion percentage that might not

536
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 1: be as good that day. You know. So you got

537
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: a new head coach in the division, Mike McDaniel. Yeah,

538
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: how do you think he's gonna do? And something struck

539
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: me when we were in Mobile. Robert was asked about

540
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 1: him and he raved about him. Um, you were on

541
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: that staff with him, and I think you would call

542
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: him a good friend. Yeah, what is he gonna bring

543
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 1: to the table? He's uh, Mike is uh kind of

544
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: well documented Mike McDaniels. Uh, he's gonna be Mike. And Um,

545
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 1: I've been with Mike, uh since two thousand fourteen. Before that,

546
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 1: he was with my brother, um two thousand eight on

547
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 1: through Houston, Washington. So I've known Mike for you know,

548
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen years. Um, one of my best friends, not

549
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: just in this in this profession, but in life he

550
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: is such a good UH coach. That's that's an understatement. Um,

551
00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 1: the players respect him. He's gonna be who he is

552
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 1: within his own personality every single day. He's never gonna change.

553
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: But he's a good human. He was such a good

554
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: UH friend to have in the building. Again, going back

555
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: to two thousand fourteen, every year I thought, we just

556
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: got closer and closer to our time in San Francisco. Um,

557
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: you know it. Uh, it wasn't fun leaving him because

558
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 1: he was I was so close with him, but it

559
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: was just, you know, obviously time to move on. The

560
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: great opportunity, and it was his time to move on.

561
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: And what a great opportunity he has. So I love Mike.

562
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: I wish him, you know, nothing but the best. Everyone

563
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: roots for Mike, you know. Unfortunately he is in our division.

564
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: So just like the Packers, I hope they win every game,

565
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: but versus I hope Miami. I hope Miami wins every

566
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 1: game except for you know, if it affects the Jets.

567
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: So are two games and any other game that that

568
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,360
Speaker 1: it would affect us pissing wound up in the division,

569
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: because yeah, it's great, your buddy, It's got a high

570
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: coaching job and well deserved. But I'm not even just

571
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: thinking that you've got to compete against him. I'm thinking

572
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: in terms of you guys have might have similar thoughts

573
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: on personnel systems, so down the line free agency and draft,

574
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: you know that all No, that's no, it's no. It's

575
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: a good question because that that is true. You know,

576
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: like that did when he got the job, You're not

577
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: thinking about the division. You're just so so happy for

578
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: him and his wife, Katie and their family, UM, that

579
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: that he's getting this opportunity. So you didn't even care

580
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: where it was. But then once you know, you processed

581
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: all that, like we can't talk about free agency, we

582
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 1: can't talk about the draft. We really can't even talk

583
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: too much about schemes because we are in the division,

584
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: you know, and and that is what it is or

585
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: where this is the Jets and we're worried about the Jets. UM.

586
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: It was very similar to two thousand uh twenty in

587
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: San Francisco because we played Green Bay in the NFC Championship.

588
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: We both had high expectations going into that twenty year,

589
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: So Matt and I didn't talk too much about free

590
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: agency and some of the draft guys and all that

591
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: didn't even talk too much scheme that year. Um so

592
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 1: even though we were in the same division, we just

593
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: felt like we're going to see each other, you know,

594
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: somewhere in the playoffs. Um so yeah, I mean that

595
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: that is kind of what it is. But but ultimately,

596
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: oh well, it doesn't matter. Again, I hope, I hope

597
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: they have so much success. Except for the two that

598
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 1: we have. We had Brick in your seat. We also

599
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: had brand Boyer And I'm asking all the coordinators this,

600
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,560
Speaker 1: do you have a favorite training camp memory, something that

601
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 1: stands out or experience, weather good or bad. Player brought

602
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: up two days or basically three days to practicing, And yeah,

603
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: those those two have. Um, those those guys have different experiences. All.

604
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: You know, they played a lot of years and they

605
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: played before there were a lot of the rules that

606
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: we have now. Um to you know, putting me on

607
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 1: the spot favorite training camp moment, I'm not I'm not

608
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: even gonna answer that. Last year was really cool going

609
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: to Green Bay, Um, you know, just being able to

610
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 1: to practice in that environment, going against a team that

611
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: had been the NFC Championship two years in a row.

612
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: So for a very very young team and a rookie

613
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: quarterback and a new staff to be able to kind

614
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: of just see how things are done there. Uh, that

615
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: was really cool. And you know, we had a lot

616
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: of family and stuff there, and again you don't have

617
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 1: that that pressure of an actual regular season game. But

618
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 1: I'll go back to two thousand fourteen, my first year

619
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: in a training camp. You know, you don't really know

620
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: what to expect. Although Matt had been in the in

621
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: in the league for eight years, so you kind of

622
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: that was all I knew. Uh, But I mean we

623
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: were doing special teams. I was at Cleveland, we were

624
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: doing special teams walk through. Tell what I felt was

625
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 1: nine thirty ten o'clock at night, uh, in in the

626
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean, guys can't even keep their eyes open. I

627
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: couldn't keep my eyes up. I mean, those days were long.

628
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: And then you're turning around, You're you're getting in bed

629
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: by you know, say, midnight, and you're back in the

630
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,440
Speaker 1: office at five am. And that was five weeks. And

631
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: fast forward to two thousand twenty two, and how different

632
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: the league is with the training camp and in the

633
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: amount of time that you have with these guys. I mean,

634
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 1: the vets around the league are out of the building

635
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 1: by seven seven fifteen. It's and I'm not saying one's

636
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: better than the other. It's just so different. So I

637
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: do you know, as as new QCs come and go,

638
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: I always like to remind them. Even I'm not one

639
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: of the old guys. But in two thousand fourteen, it

640
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: was a lot different than uh than it is now.

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Speaker 1: And what keeps you going? What's the must drink your

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Speaker 1: coffee guy? I'm a coffee guy. I'm a coffee guy.

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Speaker 1: I'm not I don't know. I just ordered a new,

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Speaker 1: uh new Juror coffee machine. I just ordered it two

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Speaker 1: days ago. So salez always I've always had one at home. Um,

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge coffee guy. I love love coffee, love

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Speaker 1: love good coffee. And uh so we ordered a machine.

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Speaker 1: Salad had one, but it's like getting maintenance or whatever.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to mess with it. He has his

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Speaker 1: door shut a lot, so that that's going to ruin

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Speaker 1: my coffee and take. So I just said, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna order my own. So I got one. Comment

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Speaker 1: is supposed to be here this weekend. I don't wanna

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Speaker 1: have to come down to get a brew. Come on down.

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Speaker 1: It's it's getting jury. It's good coffee. Thanks, appreciate it. Yeah,