1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:08,120 Speaker 1: This is Unbreakable with Jay Glacier, a mental wealth podcast 2 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,880 Speaker 1: build you from the inside out. 3 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Now here's Jay Glacier. 4 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 3: Welcome into Unbreakable Mental Wealth Podcast. 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 2: With Jay Glazer. I'm Jay Glazer, and it's funny. 6 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: I have friends on and people are from every possible 7 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: industry you can, but I don't think I've ever had 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 3: baseball player on. And why not lead off with the 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 3: first baseball player then the guy who's been the MVP 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 3: of the league, and that is my guy, Christian Yelich, 11 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Brews. 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 4: How you know, buddy, I'm good man. 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm honored to be one of your your few baseball friends. 14 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: I know, yeahs a very small group of. 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,239 Speaker 4: Be a part of it. 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 3: I've had a couple, you know what the now think. 17 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: I don't know if I've told you this. Adrian bel 18 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 3: Tray I trained. He had a bunch of injuries. He 19 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: came in. We realized why he was always injured because 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: he was always just over exaggerating, you know, bat in 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: one way and it would he didn't do anything to 22 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 3: train his body the other way, and there was a 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: language barrier there. But you know, they have this mixed 24 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 3: martial arts training program put we usually with football players 25 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: in hockey, we did with him in baseball, and we 26 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: made him just start throwing punches and kicks the other 27 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: way to build up his body that way. And he 28 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,040 Speaker 3: went out that season and after that. I don't think 29 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: you've really had injuries after that, and he just crushed it. 30 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: And I didn't heal fro him for I don't know, 31 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: seven eight years whatever, and I don't know where I 32 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: hit a FaceTime from him, just hey man, just really 33 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: want to tell you how much it meant to me 34 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 3: you work with me, and thank you so much. 35 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 2: But it was really special, dude, for a guy. 36 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: And again there's a language barrier who work, but I 37 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 3: think there is no language barrier when you're you figure 38 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: out when you're both trying to get greatness right when 39 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: you're talking about the human body and between the years. 40 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: But it was really special for me to for him 41 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 3: to remember me seven years later and just having a 42 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 3: call after his inducted saying thank you, that was pretty special. 43 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 4: That's super cool. 44 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: I only met him briefly, like I think, only on 45 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: field and stuff like that. I've heard amazing things from 46 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: teammates that have been his teammate or just running across 47 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: him and obviously hell of a player, you know, that 48 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: unbelievable career, and he was one of those guys that 49 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 1: you play against when you're young guy and you know 50 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: you're like, oh shit, that's at. 51 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 3: So again we're so, I'm telling Derek Jeter. I got 52 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: a friend who lives around here, one guy who was 53 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: really tied with Christi Yelich, and DN know, he's like, 54 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: oh place, he's the first guy. Uh. 55 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: When I got Big Orleans, He's the first guy I traded. 56 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: And I was like, no, but you would. 57 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 3: I totally forgot because you told me, Yeah, I got 58 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: traded by my hero. 59 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, yes, and like it wasn't his fault. 60 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: I guess you know that. 61 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 4: I don't. I don't have anything againsteric or anything. 62 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he was. 63 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: He was for sure like my favorite player growing up. 64 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: Like I love watching him. 65 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 4: Uh. 66 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: I was a little kid when like the Yankees were 67 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: winning all those World Series and stuff like that. So 68 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: that's I kind of learned baseball through like watching him play, 69 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: and he was my favorite player. And it was uh 70 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: I only got to play against him like one time. 71 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: He was like one or two times in spring training, 72 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: never like in the actual regular season. But uh, you know, 73 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: at that time, like I kind of I kind of 74 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: the Marlins were kind of rebuilding and trading away everybody, 75 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: Like I kind of wanted to be traded too, so 76 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: I didn't want to have to go through a rebuild 77 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: or anything like that after already kind of right, Yeah, 78 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: he did he did me a solid and then like 79 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 1: you know, we both you know, at the time, I 80 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: thought we got what was best, and you know, that's 81 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: just how that's how sports works. That's how sports works 82 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: sometimes where you know, trades end up working out or 83 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: don't end up working out. But uh, I never had 84 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: like anything against him for trading me because I kind 85 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: of always wanted to be I wanted to be moved 86 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: at that point. Obviously you don't have any control where 87 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: it's going. 88 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: But I just think it's an ironic story. Would you 89 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 2: get traded by your childhood? 90 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of fun the story to tell people. 91 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: It's funny, you know. But obviously, like I haven't seen him. 92 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him since that happened. Actually, really no, 93 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: I haven't seen him. 94 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 4: Uh. 95 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: Was he did you a favorite? 96 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, he did. I thought he did me a favorite 97 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 4: at the time. 98 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: I ended up working out, and you know, I'm still 99 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: in Bulwackey, so I think they end up being happy 100 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: with it too. 101 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 3: We had a pretty interesting conversation because we're working with 102 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 3: Fox now, and I was like, I always tell these guys, hey, 103 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 3: when you're out there, like I know more about sports 104 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 3: than everybody in the planet except for you. I don't 105 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: always like to get traded. I don't know what it's like. 106 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,280 Speaker 3: I have a quarterback controversy in my locker room. I 107 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 3: don't know what it's like to my head coach to 108 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: get fired, right. So I'm like, I'm always telling guys, 109 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 3: tell me something that'll oppress me that I can't read 110 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,239 Speaker 3: in USA today, So to me, while my wife Rosie 111 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 3: and Jeter and where this other restaurant our friend of 112 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:30,479 Speaker 3: Owenn's called Stake forty eight, we're going over this and 113 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: straight Hand's great because he tells everybody like listen to Glaze. 114 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 2: He trains us when we come in here. 115 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: And and because there's no guidebook form when you start broadcasting, 116 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 3: no one teaches you how to do anything. When I 117 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: signed with Fox, because that's such a New York accent, 118 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: they maybe will work with a broadcast coach because they 119 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 3: didn't want me coming on, like, hey, hey, don't we 120 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 3: got these three guys. If I had to go through it, 121 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 3: and then I if I could turn around and teach 122 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: somebody something, it's ingrained me. I have like photographic memory. 123 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 3: So I immediately started teaching it to stray In and Tiki 124 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: Harbor and things, and now I still do it with 125 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: certain people. And also again that thing was just tell 126 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 3: me something I don't know. So Jeter says, oh, you gotta, 127 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 3: you know, just gotta make the World Series like every 128 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 3: other game. 129 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 2: I said, dude, everyone says that, but that is what 130 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 2: I mean. 131 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: Take me deeper, like, how do you really make the 132 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: World Series just another game? 133 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: And he says, I said, tell me something I don't know. 134 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: He said, all right, well, I actually. 135 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 3: Used to get there before games early and kind of 136 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: go mess with the kids there and the fans because 137 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 3: it made me think I was back in the Little league. 138 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 3: I was like, that's pretty cool. There there you go. 139 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 3: That's something that's different. That's how you make it just 140 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 3: another game. How do you make it a big game 141 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: just another game? 142 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 143 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: I mean I think even I mean, I've never I've 144 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 1: never played it in the World Series, gotten close, gotten 145 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: a couple of innings away have All Star games. 146 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 4: I've gotten a couple of innings. But you know, I 147 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 4: think it's hard to. 148 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: Ignore, like you, I think you have to kind of 149 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: like acknowledge, like it's a big game. And I think 150 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: the more times you do it, the easier it becomes. 151 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: You know, I think he was in the World Series. 152 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot of seven eight times. So 153 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: like I've kind of learned that with like going to 154 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: the like the playoffs and All Star games, and and 155 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: the more you do them and the more you know 156 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: what you're getting into, you can kind of mentally prepare 157 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,159 Speaker 1: yourself for what you're going to experience, Like it's not 158 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: a shock anymore. I think the first time you're in 159 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: the postseason, the first time you go to an All 160 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: Star game, like they are different just because there's so 161 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: much more media there, Like there's different things on the field, 162 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: Like there's different attention, there's different energy in the stadium, 163 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 1: so you can feel it. 164 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 4: But I think you kind of ignowledge. For me, like I. 165 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: Acknowledge it, like okay, like this is this is pretty cool, 166 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: like the big game. Like a lot of people here 167 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: the atmosphere is cool, but it's like a privilege to 168 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: be there because some people go their entire careers. 169 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,440 Speaker 4: And all that one they never go to They never 170 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 4: go to experience that. 171 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,679 Speaker 1: When you're a kid like dreaming and playing like professional sports, 172 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: like you're dreaming about the big moments, the All Star 173 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: games or the playoffs or the World series. That's what 174 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,600 Speaker 1: you want to be in. At least that's what I 175 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,239 Speaker 1: wanted to be is like I wanted to I wanted 176 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: to be in these moments. So it's like, all right, this, 177 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: appreciate the opportunity. And you know it's gonna sound kind 178 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: of weird, but or maybe not. But I think when 179 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: you once you fail in those moments, like if you 180 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: you get a limit that you lose. 181 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: Or like you have a bad game or you do something. 182 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: Bad and then like you wake up the next morning 183 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 1: that the world didn't end right, you're like, well, that's that's. 184 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 4: That's like worst that was like worst case scenario. That's 185 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: like the whole thing. 186 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: That the only reason that you're nervous or that you 187 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: have like anxiety about the games because you're thinking about 188 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: like all the bad shit. You don't get nervous because 189 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, I'm gonna do great. You know, that 190 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: doesn't make you nervous. You're nervous because you're like what 191 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 1: if I don't play good? Or what if what if 192 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: this happened? Or what if you lose? And then once 193 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: you do that, like yeah, if you do lose or 194 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: you don't play good or something really shitty happens, and 195 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: then you come out the other side of it, you're like, well, yeah, 196 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: that sucked, but like son still rose, I'm all right, 197 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: like everything's everything's still going, you know. And then like, oh, 198 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: that was what I was That's what I was nervous about, 199 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: or like that's what I was kind of worried about 200 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: going to this game, and like yeah, it was not 201 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: the best time, but like not the end of the world. 202 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: And the next time you're in that situation, like you're 203 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: not nervous or you remove the Fear's like I've already 204 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: I've already come out to the other side of this, 205 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Like what do I have to fear? You know, doesn't matter, 206 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: you know, not not that you don't care, because you 207 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: do care and you want to do good. But like 208 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: I felt like that fear and that anxiety and like 209 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: all that is is kind of out the window. 210 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 4: And that's in a lot of big games, dude. 211 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: And maybe it's like the athlete in me, but like 212 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 1: when you watch like the super Bowl or these NFL 213 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: games or whatever playoff game, like someone's gonna win, someone's 214 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: gonna lose, and usually like there's a certain player that's 215 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: the reason why somebody wont and there's a certain player 216 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: why somebody lost, Like somebody makes a player or something 217 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: happens where you're the reason your team either won or lost. 218 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:51,959 Speaker 1: And so like one guy's a hero in his city 219 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: and the other guy's probably never allowed to go back 220 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: there the rest of his life, you know. And like 221 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: that's the stakes of those games. Like when you play, 222 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: you're like, all right, well I do something good here 223 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: and the team wins, and I might have a statue 224 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: in this place. And if I do something bad and 225 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: the team loses, like I might be in my family 226 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 1: might never be able to come back in the state 227 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: ever again. And like that's the stakes that people don't 228 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: realize that these guys like play underwent. Yeah, these games 229 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: start and like football, there's. 230 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 2: Only seventeen of them where he's yeah, and I've worked 231 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: with a lot of these guys. 232 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 3: And it's funny because as time goes on, the guys 233 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 3: where I found it really struggled years later, especially with 234 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: Twitter now and stuff. 235 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 2: But it gets so loud to them later on in life. 236 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: And I've told guys, I actually prevented guys from a 237 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 3: couple of guys from suicide as a result. And I've 238 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 3: told them, listen, I covered I was there at that game. 239 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 3: I did that game for Fox. I don't remember you 240 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 3: were the one who messed that play up or fumble 241 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: that or drop that ball. 242 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 2: I don't remember that. Like, it's big in your mind, 243 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 2: but it's really not big in the world. And you've 244 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: got to realize that there's so much. 245 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 3: Other greatness that was there, and you're like, but that 246 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: the stress of you know, football and baseball is so 247 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 3: much it's it's strung out. 248 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 2: A lot more. 249 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like any where. 250 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: I think it's the most magnified in football, probably because 251 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: there's it's a one game and done. Baseball there's like 252 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: a series, unless it's that's a game seven. You know, 253 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: I've played one game seven before. Yeah, man, Like that's 254 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: the stakes for like the athletes in those games. But 255 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: you know, like what are you gonna do? Nobody wants 256 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: to do Nobody wants to play bad. You know, so 257 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: like your teammates, everybody that they're cool, they understand. 258 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 3: Give me when you're because again this whole podcast about 259 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: what goes on between arrears when you're sitting about of bucks. 260 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 3: Take me through the conversation that you have do clear 261 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 3: your brand? Do you talk to yourself? Is it constant? 262 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 3: You know, self talk, self praise, making sure you don't 263 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: beat up for yourself, noticing things about pictures that like 264 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: tell me the conversation that goes on between yours. 265 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: For me, it's just a lot of like focus, like 266 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: I kind of know what I want to do before 267 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: going up there, and so like the whole thing that's going. 268 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 4: On in my head during like an at bad that is. 269 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's always different depending on a like who 270 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: the picture is, be like the situation of like where 271 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: runners are like stuff like that, because you get pitched 272 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: a little bit different with guys like in sporm position 273 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: or not. And then like you have your own like 274 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: internal For me, I have my own like own internal 275 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: cues while I'm hitting as far as like gear around timing, 276 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,599 Speaker 1: like all right, won I need like when do I 277 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: need to start? 278 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 4: When? And that's all that's all. 279 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: By start, I mean like start your swing and that 280 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: all happens like on deck or like when you're in 281 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: the dugout still. 282 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 4: Like okay, like really this guy click to the plate? 283 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 4: He s to the plate? 284 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: Am I going to have to make sure that, like 285 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised here? Like have I faced this guy before? 286 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: And then once you're in the box, like I try 287 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: to have as little going on in my mind as possible, 288 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: Like I just try to simplify, like all right, won 289 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: do I need to start with? You know, timing when 290 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: you I need to start like my load and I 291 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:49,719 Speaker 1: swing and all that with this guy and then if 292 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: I face them before, like you kind of have like that, 293 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: you know, internal dialogue with yourself like all right, what 294 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: happened before? 295 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 4: How's he pitched me before? 296 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: When you make a choice to swing, when you see 297 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: if that ball is coming to strike zone or blowing outside? 298 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: Where is it delivery? Do you see it? Mid it? 299 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: Just when you're when you're really going good, you don't 300 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: even think about it, like you just go when you're 301 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: supposed to go. When when you're going bad is when 302 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: you're thinking too much, I would say, and you're like 303 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: you're not. You don't trust yourself to like make a 304 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: good decision, if that makes sense, Like if you're kind 305 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: of trying, if you're guessing, like what pitch it is, 306 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: because things and baseball happen so fast, so you don't 307 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: have like you don't really have a time to be like, okay, fastball, 308 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: cool ball, stright, Like that just happens instinctively, like and 309 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: you're like you can just see it and like your 310 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: body stops or you see it and you just go 311 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: like breaking ball or fastball, and when you're going good, 312 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 1: when you're not going good, like you're in between. You 313 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: you can't hit a fastball, you can't hit a breaking 314 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: ball because you're just like, well, I don't. 315 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 4: Want to be laid on the fastball, but like he 316 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 4: might throw a breaking ball. I don't know what's going 317 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: to happen. 318 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: Well, don't chase the breaking but like that's the kind 319 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: of that's the kind of shit that starts going in 320 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: your head. When guys are in a slump, like all 321 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: I'm just like not seeing her. That's when if they 322 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 1: like the little guys on your shoulder talking too much, 323 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: when you're in the batter's box and really bad stuff's 324 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:08,680 Speaker 1: about to happen, when you're just like calm and like 325 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: there's nothing really going on in your head and you're 326 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: like okay, like everything just seems kind of slow and 327 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: you're really focused and you feel like you can is 328 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: all your thinking. For me, all I'm thinking about is 329 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: like my time in cube and like where's the ball? 330 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 4: Like I don't even look for a pitch. I just 331 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 4: kind of like where's the ball? 332 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 1: Be? 333 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 3: On time, you could see it though the ball like 334 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: things going ninety eight, you're able to track it. 335 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: So half half hiesight and half instincts whether. 336 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, Like when guys are throwing a hunter 337 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: like you can you can still see the ball. 338 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 4: It just it just gets to you really quickly. It 339 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 4: gets there. 340 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 1: It's noticed see it well ninety like ninety ninety five 341 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: and a hundred, like those are all kind of like 342 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: noticeable jumps and velocity, right, you know, everything else like 343 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 1: in between those threshold is kind of like the same. 344 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 1: And then once you kind of get to those, you're like, ah, 345 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: that's definitely getting you're pretty quick, but you see it 346 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: the whole time when you're when you're going to other 347 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: times like if you're in between or you're just messed 348 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: up up there, and like there's time where you're hitting 349 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 1: so hard and it's so weird that like you could 350 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: be locked in and you know, breaking and then one 351 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: day you step up, you go into the batting cage, 352 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: like get loose before the game and you like look 353 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,319 Speaker 1: out at the guy throw on VP and you're like, oh, no, 354 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: this feels all wrong, what's going on here? 355 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 4: And it happens. 356 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: It literally happens just like that or really, but then 357 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: it comes back. Like you could be sucking for like 358 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: a whole week and then you can just like stand 359 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: in the on deck circle one day, like getting ready 360 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: to go. 361 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 4: Hit in the middle of the game and be like. 362 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: Oh that feels better really, and then you're back yeah, 363 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: or it's like a foul ball or a swing or 364 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: like something locks you back in. You just have to 365 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: keep believing that it's the next one, you know, and 366 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: that's experience too, you know, when you go through slumps 367 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: is like a young player, for like the first time, 368 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: you feel. 369 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 4: Like it's this is the end of the world. Everything's 370 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 4: everything's over. 371 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: I'm going back, I'm going back to the minor leagues, 372 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: you know, and then once you come out the other 373 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: side of it, you're like, oh, okay, yeah, we're back everything, 374 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 1: everything's fine, and and then you kind of usually when 375 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: you come out of a slump, you kind of learn 376 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: the reason why you were in it, because to get 377 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: out of it you kind of have to fix yourself 378 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: a little bit, and you learn a lot of lessons 379 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: when you're kind of struggling, like, okay, well this is 380 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: what happened when I was struggling. 381 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 4: I got it back doing this, and you kind of. 382 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: Use that experience to that experience builds that your career 383 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: goes because you never really lose those So like in hitting, 384 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: like your problems when you were like twelve years old, 385 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: those are going to be your problems if you're thirty 386 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: three years old in the major leagues and have played 387 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: for ten years, Like your problems are your problems and 388 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: hitting with your swing, it's just like what your body does. 389 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: So when you learn how to fix them, you learn 390 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: how to get yourself back out of like those ruts, 391 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: you can fix them quicker. Usually ideally it doesn't always happen. 392 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 3: It's a great lesson because a lot of people are 393 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: willing to base their issues and run away from them 394 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: right instead, you're saying, hey, you got to face them, 395 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 3: see what they are. 396 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: And it was a look. 397 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: I went to Piland train more die out there, but 398 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 3: I literally went to these monks and these guys are like, hey, 399 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: just sit in your pain. I said, I said, my 400 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 3: pain every day. I said, no, you experience your pain. 401 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,440 Speaker 3: You need to sit in it and really like heal 402 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: yourself and figure it out. It's the same thing you're 403 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: really saying of like, you've got to go sit in 404 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: whatever's causing this slum, sitting it and not run away 405 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 3: from it so you could so you could heal it. 406 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you got to put the work in. 407 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's two different like roalms, but both put 408 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: in the work in. You have to like invest in 409 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: it to get out of it. You know it's just 410 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 1: not going to happen. But you can't just sit there 411 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: and do the same thing you've been doing every single 412 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: day and expect something different to happen. You know, you 413 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 1: have to you have to work for it. And you 414 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: know that goes in life and sports, like you know, 415 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 1: you get you get out of it what you put 416 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: in you know. 417 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 3: When you're talking about also just you know, being up there, 418 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 3: you got to have half your eyes after instincts. I 419 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: did a TV show with Tim Brown, great Hall of 420 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 3: Fame receiver for the Raiders. He said, receivers don't understand, 421 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 3: but one of the first things that goes it's not their. 422 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: Legs, it's their eyes. 423 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 3: And him and Jerry Rice used to do all these 424 00:16:56,800 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: exercises to strengthen their eyes. Would put like a number 425 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: on the ball and have the judge machine and the 426 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: two catch passes, the NFL out whatever. 427 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: Numbers, four sick, whatever's written on there. You guys do 428 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 2: things also to strengthen your eyes. 429 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 3: Or is that because the eyes go before the body 430 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 3: in baseball or versa. 431 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: I think the body goes before the eyes. 432 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: But there is like guys do like eyesight training and 433 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: stuff like that in baseball. I've dabbled with it a 434 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: little bit, but I've never been like the one that's done. 435 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 4: It the most by any means. 436 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: But we do have it's the it's in the batt cage, 437 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:30,879 Speaker 1: like you see guys doing it all the time with 438 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: some of the training staff. But yeah, I think, you know, 439 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: I think the more you play and the more experience 440 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: you have, like you have the mental aptitude for the game, 441 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: like you're you're so much farther ahead with like the 442 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: learning curve, and like you know, like sometimes you know 443 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 1: what's going to happen in that bats or sequences and 444 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: stuff like that, your body is just not capable of 445 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: doing it. 446 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 4: When you see guys that have played for a long. 447 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,880 Speaker 1: Time, they just can't get to the hundred on our 448 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: festival anymore. 449 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 2: Ye turn their hoops, Yeah. 450 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: And then you just start cheating and then you and 451 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,000 Speaker 1: then guys start throwing curveball and change ups and all 452 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: that stuff, and then it's just a smiral. 453 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 4: But you know, so far, my rigs holding up decently. 454 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: Why did you realize you were different? 455 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's been like a couple of 456 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: different times. I think I think the first time, like 457 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: I realized that I was going to be able to 458 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: like go to college or play like pro ball was well, 459 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: the first time I knew I'd probably going to be 460 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: able to play baseball in college was like my freshman 461 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: sophomore year of high school. I mean the varsity team. 462 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: I was the only freshman that did it that year, 463 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: and like we had some pretty good players that were 464 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: going to be drafted or a lot of guys that 465 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: were going to like D one schools, And even the 466 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,639 Speaker 1: league had both. You know, they had some seniors, junior 467 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: seniors that were high draft guys or guys that were 468 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: going to pretty serious D one colleges. 469 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 4: And like I was, I was able to hold my own. 470 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't say like I did. 471 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: I didn't dominate my freshman year, but I didn't look 472 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: like I didn't belong on the field, And like I 473 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: felt like I was, I was doing pretty good and 474 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, kind of kept building and like sophomore junior 475 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: of high school, you know, I felt like I was 476 00:18:57,800 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: getting a lot better. Like I just kept getting better. 477 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: A lot of my friends in high school that I 478 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: grew up with, they played baseball. They're D one baseball players, 479 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, they all so we were all pretty good 480 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: as kids. You know, nobody was like really head or 481 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: shoulders above each other. So we all kind of just 482 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: thought we were like all the same, you know, and 483 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: we were for a while. You know, going to D 484 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: one schools, no little thing, like you got to be 485 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: pretty good. 486 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: You gotta be pretty good to do that. But even 487 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 4: when they were going to d one. 488 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I was just always able to 489 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: perform and like naturally hit. Like I think I had 490 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: like a natural gift to just be able to hit. Yeah, 491 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,399 Speaker 1: and like I obviously had to work. You have to 492 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: keep working at it and like improve at it if 493 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: you want to keep going. But like naturally, I was 494 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: just always able to kind of hit, and like I 495 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: could feel things, and like hitting just kind of like 496 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: made sense to me. 497 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 4: Nobody in my family. 498 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: Played baseball, so like I didn't really have hitting coaches 499 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: growing up. 500 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 4: It was me just kind of feeling it out, you know. 501 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: I could feel what it felt like when I felt good, 502 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: and I could feel what it felt like when it 503 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: felt bad, And like you're always kind of just trying 504 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: to fix yourself as a little kid. And I didn't 505 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: even realize it at the time, but that helped me 506 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: like past my career progress because I would just go 507 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: off field. But the thing about that, sometimes, like when 508 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: you don't have any like coaches or you never really 509 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: did drills and stuff as a kid to like find 510 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: your swing when that shit went when that shit goes south, 511 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: it's a little bit harder to find it because you 512 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: never really had anything that like got you back there. 513 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: It was just like wow, I just felt it, you know. 514 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: But even out of high school, I thought I was 515 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: going to go to college. Actually at a high school, 516 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: I was going to University of Miami, And when I 517 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: made that decision, I thought I was going to school 518 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: at the time. 519 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 4: When I made that commit in my. 520 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: Junior year, I was I was always like I was 521 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: pretty good, but I was never like, you're no doubt, 522 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: like first round pick, you know, or and that's the 523 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: only really that's the only way I was not going 524 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: to go to school was if you know, I was 525 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: a first round draft dack. 526 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 4: They gave me first round money to like bypass college. 527 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I could, you know, I can make 528 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: that work and not ill figure out school later. 529 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: But uh, it was never like that for me. 530 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: Like I was never an All American and I ever 531 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: made the All American team in high school. 532 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 4: Got cut from that, tem Usa got cut from that. 533 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: There's an Area Code Games, which is like I would 534 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe. 535 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 4: It, but it's like there's like eight teams. 536 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: From like all over the country and they all play 537 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,439 Speaker 1: in Long Beach and it's like the best players in 538 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: the country from like all the different regions, you know, Northwest. 539 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: All that stuff. 540 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: So I made that, but I only played part time. 541 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: It was actually for the Brewers. That was our team 542 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: was the Brewers, which is kind of fun. But so 543 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: I played part time at that, you know, but that's fine, 544 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: you know. But at the time, I was like, all right, 545 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 1: like all these guys that make Team USA all the America, 546 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: those definitely like the first round picks because you got 547 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: college guys, high school guys. Everybody's going in the same draft. 548 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: So I was fine with going to college. 549 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 4: At the time. I didn't really I was like, all right, 550 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: that's just that's gonna be my path. 551 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: And then there was a there was like a showcase 552 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: one day, and so right before the high school baseball 553 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: season starts, there's this urban Youth Academy in Compton that's 554 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: like the MLB Academy, and there was like a big 555 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: like West Coast showcase there and and I had like 556 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: the best day I like at one of those things. 557 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: Like everything was just like went great, like best best sixty. 558 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: I ran, had a really good batting practice when the 559 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 1: game started, played really good in the game, and then 560 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: after that it was just like my draft stop kind 561 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: of just started. 562 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 4: Climbing and climbing and going one day. 563 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think I was probably on people's 564 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: radar at that time, but it was kind of just 565 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: I'm not the best. I was not the best like 566 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: showcase player growing up, because I don't have the best arm, 567 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: Like I don't throw the hardest in the outfield. I 568 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: never hit the ball the farthest in batting practice. I 569 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: never ran the fastest sixty. So I never had like 570 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,719 Speaker 1: one tool that you would like watch and you'd be 571 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: like wow, like that's that's it, except when the game 572 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: played like I could always play, like I could just 573 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: get hit, you know, when I could always do the shit. 574 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 4: I could do the shit that mattered. I could play 575 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 4: the game. But like if you just. 576 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: Watched any individual tool, it was like, all right, I 577 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: was tall. I was a really I was probably six three, 578 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: like one hundred and seventy pounds in high school, one 579 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy. 580 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 4: I was really skin. 581 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: So that day, like I had a great day, great showcase, 582 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: like everything went perfect, which you know doesn't really happen. 583 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,919 Speaker 1: And then carry that into the high school season, had 584 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 1: a good year, and then I worked out well for 585 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: the teams, like in the workouts after the high school season, 586 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: and when the draft came, I kind of knew that 587 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: I was going to end up being a first rounder. 588 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 4: I didn't know I was going to go to the Marlins. 589 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 4: But what were you? 590 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: Twenty three, twenty ten, Right, pretty good draft class. Actually 591 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: a lot of good players in that class. 592 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: That's huge. 593 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 4: But you get that call, it's got like I actually 594 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 4: wasn't paying attention. 595 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: So I was watching the draft on TV with like 596 00:23:33,920 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: a couple of friends and stuff like that, and it 597 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,959 Speaker 1: was the Marlins pick, but I hadn't talk to them 598 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: at all, like leading into the draft process, like I 599 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: did a home visit with our area scout Tim It 600 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 1: was like really quick some of like some home visits 601 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: would be a few hours, some would be like thirty minutes, 602 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: and his was like thirty minutes checking in and saying 603 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: what's up, and then like that was it. Like I 604 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,120 Speaker 1: didn't really do a pre draft workout like some teams 605 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: will have like their scouting directors and scouts everybody like 606 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: fives out like this private workout, and so I did 607 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: those with a few teams, but never them, so like 608 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 1: their pick was on the board, I wasn't even I 609 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: wasn't even really paying attention. I wasn't even watching the TV. 610 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: Like I heard my name get called before I saw it. 611 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 4: It was like, yeah, because I just didn't think But they. 612 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 2: Don't before like the NFL and you just blocked on TV. 613 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 4: At that time. 614 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if they didn't, they might now, 615 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: but like, oh my god, the draft was. 616 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 4: Even like less of a production then than it is now. Yeah, 617 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 4: there was no phone call or nothing. 618 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: I was Yeah, I don't even remember what I was doing, 619 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 1: but I definitely wasn't watching TV at the time I 620 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: heard it. 621 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 4: That was pretty cool. I stall like a couple of 622 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 4: days of high school left and stuff too. After that. 623 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 4: It was it was kind of cool. 624 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, when we were going back to high school, college students, 625 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: high school students under your millionaire pretty good walk around always. 626 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember like having like finals and stuff and 627 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: they like, I don't care about this at all, you know, 628 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: like I'm going to end up signing. 629 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: But the other thing that kind of blew me away 630 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 3: when I was talking to Junior was the lifestyle the 631 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: baseball player of you and I them at also, but like, man, 632 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: tell people what time you get to the stadium and 633 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 3: you really a star like you Also, you got to 634 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 3: do all your media, like he was saying that he 635 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: didn't really eat dinner till one o'clock in the morning. 636 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 1: You got long days, dude, Like take us through your 637 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 1: day a night. Games like yeah, like a standard, like 638 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: a standard like seven to ten if you're at home. 639 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: If you're at home, you can kind of go. You 640 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: can go whenever on the road now too that you're 641 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: like a veteran guy. 642 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 4: But if you're a young guy on the road, you 643 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 4: better be on the better be on the first bus. 644 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: But what time is that noon? 645 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 1: It's probably like one o'clock for seven o'clock game. 646 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 4: Guys will get. 647 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,120 Speaker 1: There around one one thirty at home, you know sometimes too, 648 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: depending on like what you got to do or what's 649 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: your routine is that day. 650 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 4: But yeah, you're there. 651 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: You're like there, like one one. I'm one of the 652 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: early guys because I like to I like to eat 653 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: lunch there. I just like to be there and then 654 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: do some stuff in the training room. Got like a 655 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: little like like warm up routine like in the weight 656 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: room and stuff like that. So and then you go 657 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,440 Speaker 1: in the cage like do whatever, like routine you got 658 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: in there with hitting coaches like pre BP. Sometimes the 659 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: infielders will have like ground balls and do whatever they 660 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: got to do for infield defense that day, all before 661 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: batting practice even starts. And then you know there's like 662 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: we have a team stretch and then batting practice you 663 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: come back in. They'll be like hitters meetings. Then some 664 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: guys get a little something to eat, and everybody else 665 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: kind of goes off and does their own thing to 666 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: get ready for the game. Everybody has like their own routine. 667 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: Some guys sit in their locker, some guys will play 668 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: ping pong, some guys will go in the weight room 669 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: and do whatever. Other guys like try to take a nap. 670 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: Everybody has their own little thing. But then the game 671 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: starts at seven. You're kind of done around ten. You know, 672 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: it's like a pretty standard game. And then you get 673 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: the media comes in like after the manager talks to them, 674 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: which I don't know, that's like a half hour after 675 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: the game ends, and then guys will eat, do some 676 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: training room stuff if you want to do like some 677 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: whatever cold tup things or whatever. Every modality you do 678 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: after the game, Like I don't know, Sometimes you're walking 679 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 1: back in the house at midnight, you. 680 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: Know, after a game. 681 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: So you're you're putting in eleven twelve hour days and 682 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: that's without travel. Sometimes you go to the airport after 683 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: that and then you're flying and then you play the 684 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 1: next day too, but. 685 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 3: As a picture and you're not playing those five day 686 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: If you've got add it must be a bear. 687 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, those guys, like I don't know how, I don't 688 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: know what they do. Like it's kind of crazy because 689 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 1: like position players and pictures, like you're on the same team, 690 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: but like you might not like see each other until 691 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,639 Speaker 1: like certain points in the day because everybody's doing their 692 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: own thing, Like they have their things, they have their meetings. 693 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 4: We have, like the position players have our stuff. 694 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: Like you might cross paths in the locker room or 695 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: like in like the food room or something like that 696 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: during the day like after BP or PREBP or something 697 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: like that. But sometimes like you don't see each other. 698 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: They have their own like lifting routine during like the 699 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: week that they're not like the days they're not pitching, 700 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,239 Speaker 1: they have like their own like lifting thing, their own 701 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: recovery times. Like they live a whole different life, ring 702 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: trainings for pictures, but they have like the easiest. They 703 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: have the easiest training. 704 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 3: So the NFL, you know, off of the line, and 705 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: they're the weirdos and locker they're their own mute so 706 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 3: they're their own community. 707 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: Like they're different. Really, who's the widows of the locker room? 708 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: In baseball? 709 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 4: It's just different. Every every year there's like a different 710 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 4: different group. Like I bet you like that. 711 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: I bet you Pictures would say it's the position players. 712 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: Like the position players, says the pictures, you know, But 713 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: we actually have we've had like really, the game's gone 714 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: so young now that I I think I might be 715 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: the oldest guy on the team. Know I could be wrong, 716 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure that I might be the oldest 717 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: guy that we have now. 718 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 4: I might even know. 719 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 3: But you don't play, and if you don't play video games, 720 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 3: you play don't got a lot to connect with. 721 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, well we got we got some like good group 722 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: of young guys that like I'll hang out with and like, 723 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, shoot the ship with their give them a 724 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: hard time or they like to do it back. 725 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: To me sometimes. But you know, who knows what, call 726 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 4: me old or. 727 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: Something, but everyone's pretty cool. We spend so much, We 728 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: spend so much time with We spend way more time 729 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: with each other and we do our own family. It's 730 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: like we're not even it's not close like the time 731 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: the time wise, and like once you go back to season, 732 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: it's like eight months. 733 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 4: Every single day you're playing baseball. Like you're with these 734 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: guys for eight straight months. 735 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, we might have a few off days, but 736 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: for the most part, man, you're you're in it. You're 737 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: in that grind and you just get used to it. 738 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 4: I think you getting a good routine and you know, 739 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: you start just kind of. 740 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 1: Putting in days, you know, Like I think in like 741 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: the middle of April, beginning of May, you get you 742 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: get in. 743 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 4: A roll with the season and you look up and 744 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 4: it's over. 745 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: You know, it feels like it takes forever, but then 746 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: you like look back on it in three years long by, 747 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: like that's crazy. 748 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 3: I got one last question for your brother. This has 749 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: been great, man. I appreciate. We're gonna have like, definitely 750 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: so much more I want to do with this. We'll 751 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 3: do it again during the season. 752 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, I ask all my guests. 753 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: Give me your unbreakable moment moment that could have broken 754 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: you should have and didn't. As a result, you came 755 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 3: to the other side of that tunnel stronger forever. 756 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: For me, I think it's like some of my some 757 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: of my injury stuff like pre or post like you know, 758 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: MVP year almost did it the next year, but then 759 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: broke my kneecap and then you know that sucked to 760 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: miss the last few weeks of the year and in 761 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: the postseason and just like you know, go over and 762 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: having this amazing year to like all right, now I've 763 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: got at least six months of rehab in front of me, 764 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, and don't get to see like the end 765 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: of this, and then ended up having back stuff after 766 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: that and just struggled playing a little, like wasn't playing 767 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: at the same level. And you know, you come you 768 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: sign I signed a big deal right after those years, 769 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: and so then you get the heat on you from 770 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: from that, which understandably, so like that comes with the territory. 771 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: You sign contracts like that and you don't play up 772 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 1: to that level like that sports man. So but I 773 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: remember that being like a tough time dealing with the 774 00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,360 Speaker 1: dealing with like the injuries and like you know, trying 775 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: to figure out how to perform at that level again, 776 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: and like you definitely spend. You spend a lot of 777 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: time sometimes, and I remember that was kind of around 778 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: the time me and you crossed paths actually just by chance, 779 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, through big wit. 780 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 4: I think I met you in this Yeah, I met 781 00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 4: you in this house. 782 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, back, but we ended up kind of hitting it off, 783 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: and I remember talking to you a lot about like 784 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: not even baseball, but just like the mental side of 785 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: things and like how to deal with that. 786 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 4: And it was kind of a time in my life. 787 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Where I was learning how to how to balance injuries 788 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: with like not performing who I wanted to, but still 789 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,479 Speaker 1: knowing that I could somehow. 790 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 4: I just needed to figure it out. 791 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: And then you know, when you're dealing with injuries in 792 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: your sport that you kind of fall out of love 793 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: with them a little bit because it's just like the frustration. 794 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,080 Speaker 1: And then you're like, well, I don't know how I 795 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: can you know, I don't know how this is going 796 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: to go if I can play, Like, I don't know 797 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: if I can still do this at at a high level, 798 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: even though like I believe that I could, Like it 799 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: starts to creep in your head or like, well I 800 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe not, you know, like you don't really 801 00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: want to admit it to anybody, but it definitely enters 802 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: your head like shit, like yeah, you know, and then 803 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: ended up coming out of it. You know, the last 804 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 1: couple of years have been really good, Like I got 805 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: hurt again last year, but hopefully like we're on the 806 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: other side of that now. We got it cleaned up with, 807 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,719 Speaker 1: you know, cleaned up, cleaned up good. But you know, 808 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: I think it kind of goes back to what we 809 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,959 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier. You learn a lot about yourself 810 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: and the times when things aren't going right and if 811 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: you're struggling, and like you kind of have to stare 812 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: in the face at some point. I think in sports, 813 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: like you play long enough in sports man, like everyone's 814 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: going to have a moment you have to stare it. 815 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 4: You have to stare it right back in the eyes 816 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 4: and be like, all right, like this. 817 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,959 Speaker 1: Is gonna go one or two ways that we need 818 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: to figure it out. Like right now, it's either it's 819 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: either going to go they're gonna get back on track, 820 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: or it's not going to go so good. And like 821 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: if you want to keep going and you don't want 822 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: it to be the end, like you need to figure 823 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: it out. 824 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 4: For me, it was just like constantly trying to find 825 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 4: a way to do it at a high level again. 826 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: And I felt like I was a I've been able 827 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: to do that like the last two years, and you 828 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,959 Speaker 1: can continue to be able to do that until you know, 829 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: take the jersey out, which hopefully is not for a 830 00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 1: little bit longer, you know, man, But yeah, it was. 831 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: It was a tough time for sure. I mean it's 832 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people knew how tough 833 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: of the time it was, you know. Besides like the 834 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: select few, like people that I'm pretty good friends with. 835 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 2: It's like, man, you let me in, man, I appreciate that. 836 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 3: Up. 837 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 4: I don't remember when we were were we talked about. 838 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 2: I think maybe we were witch house watching a game, which. 839 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 4: House talking on a game, But we went to dinner 840 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 4: one night too. 841 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, it might've been at Nobuo or something 842 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: like that, but I remembering you're talking, yeah, and then 843 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: you were slumping. 844 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: You got hurt, and WIT's like, hey call them, And 845 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,360 Speaker 3: I reached out to you and I just started make 846 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 3: sure picking you up, man, because that the roommates in 847 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 3: our head are telling us some bad things that aren't true, 848 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 3: and I wanted to make sure you weren't listening to them, 849 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: you know, I wanted you see the truth. 850 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,840 Speaker 2: The truth is exactly who this is, right, not the truth, 851 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 2: It's not the truth. 852 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 3: Those roommates tell us really bad things when when are 853 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 3: when you know the loneliness of an injury, we start 854 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 3: doubting ourselves And there was no reason to start doubting 855 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 3: yourself at that point. 856 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I told you that you need somebody to tell you, 857 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 2: and that's my job was, you know. 858 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 1: And you're a great friend man that you really you 859 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 1: didn't have to do any of that stuff, and you're 860 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: always checking in. 861 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 2: That's why what some brothers are for. 862 00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're always checking out on each other. And I 863 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 4: think when you go through those times, like you know, 864 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 4: you don't. 865 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: Really talk to a lot of people about it because 866 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: you feel like you have to, like, all right, I 867 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: have to still like put on a certain front, like 868 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: you have to act like everything's fine, like when you're 869 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: when you're at the stadium, everything, like you still have 870 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: to be like, oh, yeah, everything it's all good, Like yeah, no, no, 871 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm fine, like everything everything's good. And then you know, 872 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: it's really common baseball where guys, it's such a mental 873 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 1: game that right, there's guys that for sure struggle mentally 874 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: by themselves at the you know, everything's fine at the stadium, 875 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: but you go home and you know you're chilling by 876 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 1: yourself and in your room and whatever it is midnight 877 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: after you know, getting your teeth kicked in for like 878 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 1: this two weeks in a row. 879 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 4: You know. 880 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: The thing about baseball is like you have to keep 881 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: you just have to keep coming back like that, just 882 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: have to battle on that sport is like you might 883 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 1: fail forever, but you have to keep telling yourself like 884 00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: the next one is the next one, the next one, 885 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 1: the next one. 886 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 4: But learned a lot and learn that you can come 887 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 4: out the. 888 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: Other side of some some tough some tough things and 889 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: everything's going to be all right and big time learn 890 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: lesson And now that you're on the other side of it, 891 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: it's like, all right, Well, that was just kind of 892 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 1: part of the journey and part of the experience, and 893 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 1: that's something that you can use to help somebody else 894 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: out one day that's that's going through something similar and 895 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,399 Speaker 1: it just doesn't know how to navigate it yet. 896 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 4: Like I didn't. I didn't really. 897 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: I was kind of just fine by the seat of 898 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: my pants and trying to figure it out as we went. 899 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: Knowledge is great, man, but so also I always have 900 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 3: to say, you never know what lies around next Tuesday. 901 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 4: You never know, you never know, you never know. 902 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 3: Get in tomorrow. Just hey, next Tuesday. You want to 903 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 3: what You're one away, You're one day away from this ending. 904 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 3: They're one one meeting way it wait, one chance meeting 905 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 3: with you and I'm just a conversation that changed a 906 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 3: lot for each for the two of us. 907 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: And everything usually gets better even when you think it's 908 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: not going to or like you know, like this shit 909 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: just keeps getting worse, dude, but eventually it turns the 910 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: corner and it starts going. It might you might have 911 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: ten miles of shit to still go, but eventually you're 912 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: going to hit the bottom and you can come. 913 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 4: You're going to start going in the other direction, no doubt. 914 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: Man. Appreciate you, man, I love you, dude. 915 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 4: And I love it too, bro, and appreciate it. 916 00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: And it's always fun talking and hanging dude, and thanks me. 917 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 4: We're long overdueing this thing, no man, gladly, fine, gotta 918 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 4: do it. 919 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 2: We'll do it again during the season, definitely. 920 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, we have to, man, appreciate it,