1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three 2 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. Today 3 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: is our week seven Tuesday NFL episode. I am Chad Melman, 4 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. We are coming 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: off of a two and three week in our contest. 6 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: Thank you Mac Jones for a very predictable safety and 7 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: doing the one thing we knew you shouldn't do. Everybody 8 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: knew you shouldn't do at the end of that Raiders game. 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: But hey, we did tell people to go all in 10 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: on the Browns and the Jets. So on this show 11 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: we exercise irrational optimism. We look at the bright side. 12 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: We move on to week eight. We recorded our Sunday 13 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: episode before Sunday Night Football, and as we said on 14 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: the show, a lot of lines we liked have all 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: already moved, which is why you need to listen to 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: the Sunday show if you want to get the best 17 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: of the number. Today we will get to our sign 18 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: and says in our exec Decision. Thursday, we will do 19 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: sharp calls, big balls, and foxhol this episode, we'll look 20 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: at the entire board. As we begin narrowing down the 21 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: five picks, we'll enter in the Favorites Podcast one hundred 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: thousand dollars Pro Football Pick Them contest still open for 23 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 1: sign up, by the way, still free to play. Still 24 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: awarding weekly and season long cash prizes at Favorites dot 25 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: actionnetwork dot com. Let's bring in my co host, my bff, 26 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: my companion, my compadre professional better Simon Hunter etro So. 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 2: I am in, Hello, how Chad? 28 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: The Chargers game that was tough to watch last night, 29 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: just excruciating. We were on the Chargers plus two and 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: a half. But we're moving on practicing irrational optimism. That's 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: what I'm calling it. That's what my wife sort of 32 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: says about me without saying it about me. Tyreek Hill 33 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: right now, who we got at nine to one to 34 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: lead the league in receiving on pace for twenty two 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: hundred yards, receiving more than two hundred yards higher than 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: the NFL record. Kudos to you, Simon. I want to 37 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: give you your flowers because I remember you saying Tyreek 38 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: Hill said he wants two thousand yards. That to me 39 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,080 Speaker 1: is a sign we should take him at nine to 40 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 1: one as a flyer. We did it, well done. 41 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just the only fear is health You're right, 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: he's on like a crazy historical pace that mine the offense. 43 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: I mean, Tua's leading the league in passing yards, easily 44 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: leading the league in receiving. There just doesn't get much 45 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: more high power than that offense does. Right now. 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: Well, look, it's one of the biggest games of the week. 47 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: They're playing the Philadelphia Eagles. We're going to get to that, 48 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: yeah and more as we break down the board. 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Please email producer Matt Mitchell at 73 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 1: podcasts at Actionnetwork dot com to claim you're not cash prize. 74 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: Thanks for playing all right. Week seven in our contest 75 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: is now live. Good luck everybody. Week seven, here we 76 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: go Jacksonville at New Orleans. Dude, simon this line. I 77 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: know we can't put it in the contest, but has 78 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: just fucking steamed like a train from the eighteen sixties 79 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: racing across the country. It opened at New Orleans plus 80 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: one and a half. What do we say on Sunday 81 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: Night seven. 82 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: You gotta grab it. 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: We grabbed it at one and a half while we 84 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: were talking on the show, it started moving. It's moved 85 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: four and a half points. I want to get your 86 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: take on what you're hearing, even in the first you know, 87 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: forty eight sixty four hours since we had the show. 88 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: I do want to say, like to me, I felt 89 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,799 Speaker 1: like this would be a luck rankings game on both sides. 90 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: The Saints, who we had against the Texans. I went 91 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: into the numbers. They had one hundred and twenty more yards, 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: eighteen more plays, five and a half yards per play 93 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: versus five for the Texans, more time and position possession, 94 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: but they had more turnovers, more penalties, and missed two 95 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: field goals. The Jags, meanwhile, had only two hundred and 96 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 1: thirty three yards against the Colts, about one hundred and 97 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: twenty yards last and three point eight yards per play. 98 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: Colts had like something like four turnovers in the game. 99 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: So we were on it from the beginning. 100 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, an easy spot too, where it's a short week. 101 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 2: The Jaguars had won three in a row at this point, right, 102 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: they won the two London games. I won this last 103 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 2: game at home and you're just waiting for thent of 104 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 2: luckdown spot and got a little luckier that I got 105 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 2: a good number. It might be that Trevor Lawrence could 106 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: miss this game now, and that's why we've seen this 107 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 2: number move so much. So I don't hate it still 108 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: if you want to grab it now, because it could 109 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 2: move even more if it is him out where it's 110 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: a short week, you have a backup QB plane, so 111 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: that means this backup QB might have one day of 112 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: walkthroughs before they head to New Orleans. Like it's just 113 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 2: a really bad spot to have to play your backup. 114 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: So yeah, like love the Saints. I fee was gonna 115 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: be Trevor Lawrence. This was a good spot for their defense. 116 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 2: Now yeah, it's I love it even more. So it's 117 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 2: too bad we can't play in the contest if Trevor 118 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: Lawrence is out. You know, stay what you want about 119 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 2: the Saints team. At the end of the day, it's 120 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 2: not the defense's fault. They haven't winning. It's really on 121 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 2: Derek Carr. So I thought, mean, you were a really 122 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: good number on this because the public was gonna come 123 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: in so heavulous Jaguars team got lucky, Like Chad said, 124 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 2: we got ahead of it. The line kept moving. I 125 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 2: kept betting it, and then when I saw I think 126 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: it got up to minus two. So that would have 127 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: been like three am Hawaii time, which I guess is 128 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 2: nine am Eastern. And that's when I saw some news 129 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 2: trickle out that Okay, Lawrence might miss this game, like 130 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 2: Schefter put another tweet out. Then you saw go right 131 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 2: the minus three. So the books they don't know what's 132 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: gonna happen yet. No one really has any info yet. 133 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 2: That's so they just have that minus three up there 134 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: right now because that's a nice, nice in between hedge. 135 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 2: If he is out, maybe this'll go up to minus 136 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 2: four minus four and a half. But I think the 137 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 2: books already kind of shown us what they what they 138 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: think's gonna happen. They don't think Trevor's gonna play. 139 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: See, this is the difference between you and me, right 140 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: is I'm gonna bet this on Sunday night at plus 141 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: one and a half after the show we record it, 142 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to bed. I'm gonna get up on 143 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: Monday morning, right, I'm going to get up, I'm going 144 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: to exercise, I'm gonna have an espresso. I'm gonna have 145 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: a nine am call with our overlords in Copenhagen. I'm 146 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna have a nine thirty call with our are the 147 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: guys who run our commercial operations meeting. They're the ones 148 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: who make all the money, and you know, manage our 149 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: relationship with our wonderful sponsors at bet three, six five. 150 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Then I gotta have a ten o'clock call with Matt Mitchell. 151 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: Then I gotta have a ten to thirty call with 152 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 1: another guy. Then I got an eleven o'clock senior staff call, 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, this game's at three and 154 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: I didn't get to get any more money down on 155 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: this game. This is ridiculous. I'm quitting all. I'm going 156 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: full time. 157 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: You Kenja, if you just listen to my advice I 158 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: told people, was it two weeks ago, quit your day job. 159 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: Just bet Primetime unders. I think Primetime unders, Evan, were 160 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 2: they three know? This week? Primetime unders just a cash 161 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: cash attic. I can't get over how good these Primetime 162 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,239 Speaker 2: unders are. Fourteen and six in the season. Thank you, Evan. 163 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just ridiculous. These are It's crazy. It's almost 164 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: like part of me wants to not bet them because 165 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,559 Speaker 1: I'm afraid I'm gonna I've already missed the trend too much, 166 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: even though I've been betting unders. 167 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 2: You know, no, but you're you're right. It's nothing gonna 168 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 2: come back this season. But sixty percent, I think I'm 169 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 2: at a stat since like two thousand and five or 170 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: two thousand and three. It's some crazy like that, So 171 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 2: prime prime time unders chatted. They've been very profitable. 172 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to some games. We're actually going 173 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 1: to be able to bet Cleveland and Indy. Of course, 174 00:08:56,920 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: the instinct here has to be betting Indy. Right. Terrible 175 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: performance for Minshew against a not very good Jags defense. 176 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: Other Worldly performance by the Browns against what had been 177 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: a world class offense. They got perfect conditions, They had 178 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: no expectations because they had a backup QB. They were 179 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: at home in bad weather, with the best defense in 180 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: the NFL, the opponent coming off a dominating win. Are 181 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: we overvaluing the Browns more than we undervalue the Colts 182 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: in this spot? 183 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: It's hard to say, just because Minshew looks so bad. 184 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: So the first time he looked like Minshew this season, 185 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? 186 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked horrible, So I do I do want 187 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 2: to just wait on this number. I'm hoping we get 188 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: three because I think the public will think like us, 189 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 2: where it's like it don't matter if it's Pj's quarterback. 190 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 2: If Pj's the quarterback, it feels like they can scheme 191 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: it up where he doesn't have to do much. But 192 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: how do you not love the colts here, Like this 193 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: is such a great spot to back then give us 194 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 2: a three so the books. If they don't get to three, 195 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: that's even more of a reason probably to come in 196 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 2: on this Colt steam. But I'll just wait. It's just 197 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: dead number right now. Sitting on it, two, two and 198 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,199 Speaker 2: a half three, I start thinking colts here, But yeah, 199 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 2: this is a weird number, and I see the total 200 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: is thirty nine, which I was shocked at. I was 201 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: shocked it was so high. Just just feels like both 202 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: these defenses are way better than pulper reception right now. 203 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, chatter game. I would love to come in 204 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 2: on right now, but we'll just wait. Hopefully get a 205 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: better number by the time we come back on Thursday. 206 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: All right, what do we talk about when we talk 207 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: about Mac Jones? I feel like that's you know, in 208 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: sort of every post modern piece of literature or film. 209 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: When you want to have a serious conversation, you say 210 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: what we talk about when we talk about and then 211 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: it's always our kids, our parents, you know, terrorism, whatever. 212 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 1: Here is what we talk about when we talk about 213 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: mac Jones. In any other world, at any other time, 214 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: we might be comfortable betting New England. It's one hundred 215 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 1: percent the right side, as they were the last week 216 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: against Las Vegas. Right, they have the they have the 217 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: feel of those Terrible Jags teams that we used to 218 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: bet every single week. The right side is always going 219 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: to be New England because it's always going to be 220 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: shaded towards their opponent. But I do believe mac Jones 221 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: might be a system breaker. Whatever the president, whatever, Evan 222 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: can tell us, whatever the expectation with the art. With 223 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 1: regard to the number, he is pig pen. He has 224 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: a cloud. He's it's like there's something you wrote it 225 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: the other day. He's got an un you said it 226 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: the other day, an unlucky horseshoe up his ass. 227 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever it is, Evan, it's up to now. It's 228 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 2: own eleven as a dog or own twelve as a dog. 229 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: His last twelve games or eleven games is an underdog, 230 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 2: so of course you're nailed it. It's like we're getting 231 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 2: you're literally getting to my modeor getting three points of 232 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: value here, like I got this number at six, it's nine. Check, 233 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 2: you're exactly right, Like this is this is where supposed 234 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 2: to take them. But I don't know. Man, Yeah, I'm 235 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: gonna say I I don't. I just don't. I just 236 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: don't know if I can do it. And maybe by Thursday, 237 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: this Sunday will be further enough away where I can 238 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: maybe convince you had to do it. But as we're 239 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 2: sitting here right now, I don't got it in me, 240 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: and I think she has the same boat as me, 241 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: where it's like I need more than just there being 242 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 2: value or trends towards this guy. I needed to see something, 243 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: and I wish I could say I saw something in 244 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: that game, but it was really more about the Raiders 245 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: being so bad that got that Newland team back in 246 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: that game where the Bills they were just embarrassed on 247 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 2: Sunday night. They should have lost that game, most likely 248 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 2: on Sunday night. So how do you not believe in 249 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: the Bills in a bounce back spot here. But this 250 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 2: feels just like the forty nine ers last week, Like 251 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 2: the whole everyone in the world's going to come in 252 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: on this Bills team, and me and Chad are gonna 253 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: be like three or four people left that were coming 254 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: on the Patriots. So I haven't touched this game yet. 255 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 2: I know a really smart group came in on the 256 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: Patriots at nine and a half and I said, good 257 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 2: for you guys. Yeah, your genius is like every week 258 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: these people are going to make these same bets. So 259 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 2: I just can't get there, as we say here right now. 260 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: But I can tell you I know a lot of 261 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 2: smart guys taking this number, and it's been bet down 262 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: in a lot of books from nine and a half 263 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: ten down to eight and a half nine. So just 264 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: another pros versus show's game. But it's just hard for 265 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 2: me to get there. I have no trust in this 266 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 2: New England team. 267 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: Nine for the Patriots, largest home dog for New England 268 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: since Tom Brady's first start in two thousand and one, 269 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: twenty two years since the Patriots were this big of 270 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: an underdog at home. I'm old enough to remember before 271 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: we came on, you guys were like, hey, that's Susanne Summer. 272 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: She's from your time, right, She's the one who just died. 273 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember when the Patriots were such 274 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: a laughing stock of the NFL, when their owner owned 275 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: like some razor company and was just considered a joke, 276 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: and when Foxborough going to Foxborough was like going to 277 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 1: a high school stadium with aluminum benches, not even seats, 278 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: like I once got food poison, and eating a hot 279 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: dog in the Foxborough press box like it was an ugly, 280 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: ugly place. And this has the feel of that right now, 281 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: which means, oh god, we cannot bet on Mac Jones 282 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: the race. 283 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: So now they are a bunch of losers owned by 284 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: a guy who owns owns Mac and Cheese. So that's 285 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: how life is. 286 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: The Raiders visiting Chicago. Justin Field dislocated thumb. The Raiders 287 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: are plus three here. I love the Bears, I mean 288 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: the Raiders and minus three. I apologize. I love the Bears. 289 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: Last week at plus three and a half, the game 290 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: played to expectations like it was low scoring, it was 291 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: ugly bad teams. The difference was justin Field's going out 292 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 1: and the backup fumbling the ball, which led to each 293 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: touchdown for the for the Vikings. That was the difference 294 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: in the game. I know, And it's a Pros Joe's 295 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: game right now. The Pros are on the Bears. The 296 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: Joe's are on the Raiders, even with Justin Fields out. 297 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 1: I kind of like the Bears here. 298 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like last week I was on Minnesota. I got 299 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: talked off of it by some really smart guys who 300 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: love the Bears and so happy whatever happened Thursday. I 301 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 2: didn't let us put or like, because I knew I 302 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 2: was gonna like the three and a half and we 303 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: somehow didn't have them in our contest, Thank god, because 304 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: I would have probably hated them this week and I 305 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: bet them. But I've been betting this number whatever since 306 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: our show Sunday night, been taking the threes, three and 307 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 2: a half, whatever I could get on this Bears team, 308 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: don't care who your quarterback is, just playing the spot fading. 309 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 2: This Raiders team, I don't think is that good and 310 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 2: it's probably gonna hurt, Like this week sucks, like there's 311 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 2: so many bad quarterbacks this week. But if you're telling me, 312 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: Jimmy g I had to go to the hospital and 313 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 2: Hoyer and now is a favorite of minus three on 314 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: the road. I get it, the Bears are horrible, They're 315 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: a really bad team, But how do I not play 316 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 2: the three here? Like it's just the Raiders are bad too, 317 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: Like there's just two really bad teams. I'll take the 318 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: dog here. It feels like that Denver spot where it's like, 319 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 2: let's just play the number. It gets the three and 320 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: a half. You gotta be on the Bears here. So yeah, 321 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 2: ugly week this week, just some terrible quarterbacks are going 322 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 2: to be playing and this is one of the games. 323 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: So I don't know if this will make our final five, 324 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 2: but I'm on the three. I'm on the three and 325 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: a half. If you can get to three and a half, 326 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: that's what I would prefer, obviously to the three. But yeah, 327 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 2: not shocking the publicle coming on this. They hate the Bears. 328 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 2: The Bears are terrible. They're not covering for anybody. Everyone's 329 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: totally off of them. It's usually me and Chat coming 330 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: on the other side. 331 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: That's what we do. We bet up, yeah, and normally 332 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: it works. Look, we love the Jets, we love the Browns. 333 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: Didn't work with some other game, it didn't work. 334 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: I mean, we're we're six weeks in, we're sixty percent 335 00:16:56,680 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: chat eighteen and twelve. I believe, so, I mean, I'll 336 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: take it. It works obviously, people, It's ugly but it works. 337 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: It's ugly, but it works all right. Washington at the 338 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: New York Giants. So this is a game. The Giants 339 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: are two point underdogs, I believe right now with that 340 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: three six five? 341 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: Uh is that line? 342 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 1: Yeah? It's such a note. There's a few no man's 343 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: land lines here. No, I feel like we kind of 344 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: whiffed on Washington last week. You love them against Atlanta, 345 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,360 Speaker 1: we sort of talked about putting them in the contest 346 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: and then we didn't, and then we talked about it 347 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: again on Sunday and we didn't, and I don't know 348 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 1: what happened. Like we liked the games, we liked and so, 349 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: but Atlanta outgained Washington by more than two hundred yards, 350 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 1: double them up on first downs. Meanwhile, the Giants found 351 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: the perfect spot and kind of outplayed Buffalo. So unless 352 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: you see something or are hearing something, this game is 353 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: kind of a pass for me. It's a coming down 354 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,680 Speaker 1: spot for both teams. 355 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 2: I honestly want to take the Giants. I feel like 356 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: you just talked about were Washington. They're kind of inflated 357 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 2: right now by people that like they just they won 358 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,399 Speaker 2: by what was eight points against Atlanta and they had 359 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: a ton of turnovers. People are gonna be convinced that 360 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 2: this Washington team's defense is turned a corner. But I 361 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: like it from another way, like you just said, like 362 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: they gave up a ton of yards. They just got 363 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: really lucky with the turnovers. And you know, say what 364 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 2: you want about Taylor, really he really wasn't putting them 365 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 2: in bad positions against the Bills defense. Like he wasn't 366 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 2: really throwing up fifty to fifty balls and taking stupid risk. 367 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,439 Speaker 2: He's a veteran quarterback. He like will make the right 368 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: read usually, you know, looking at this game, I'm with you, chat, 369 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 2: I don't really have an opinion here, but just a 370 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 2: weird number. Why is this not three? Like this feels 371 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 2: like this should be like the Bears Bears game, where 372 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: it's like just put a three up there and let 373 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 2: let them mark it the side. It's weirdly they hung 374 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: I think a one and a half too, and it's 375 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 2: gone up to two two and a half now back 376 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: down to two, and it's just sitting at too. So 377 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: clearly the pros like the Giants. Here of the public 378 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 2: likes Washington. But I'm with Chad, no real opinion yet 379 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: on this one. 380 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: On Sunday night, I pulled back from betting the Giants, 381 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: and I regret it because I'm not as much of 382 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: a hay of Tyrod Taylor as other people. Whenever he's played. 383 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 1: He's a competent quarterback, right It's competent to any other backup. 384 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: And so in my mind, if I'm willing to play 385 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: the Browns with PJ Walker, like I'm able to play 386 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: PJ Walker on the Browns, why wouldn't I be willing 387 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: to play a Tyrod Taylor, who I think is probably 388 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 1: better and more experienced. 389 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: So it's people. 390 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: It's going to be an ugly, ugly week, all right. 391 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: So the next game right now, we still owe people, 392 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: as Simon says, we still owe people an exec decision. 393 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: We haven't gotten there yet. The Atlanta Falcons, who I 394 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: just mentioned from the Washington game, are visiting the Temp 395 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, who we add a plus three and a 396 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: half against the juggernaut Detroit Lions. We were on the 397 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: wrong side of that one box are minus two and 398 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: a half true story. I was putting the script together 399 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: for today, and as I typed in this matchup, for 400 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: some reason, like I immediately had a feeling like that 401 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: you get start patting yourself down because you think you 402 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: lost your phone or your keys, like you can't find something. 403 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: It was total fear because I thought, for a second 404 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: I had already bet Tampa minus two and a half, 405 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 1: Like in my head, I remember making a bet on 406 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: somebody at minus two and a half, and then I 407 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: realized it was Baltimore. But I basically had to find 408 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: my notebook to confirm I hadn't bet Tampa Bay because 409 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,360 Speaker 1: like I didn't want to bet this game at all. 410 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: The Falcons should have beaten Washington, Like the number of 411 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: times the camera pan to Arthur Smith and he was 412 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: just he was like putting his head in his hands. 413 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: The people on YouTube can see good I'm doing right now, 414 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: and like like he was watching his kids do the 415 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: same mistake over and over and was disgusted by it. 416 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 1: After Desmond Ridder threw picks to end Falcons chances was astonishing. 417 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: I think he did that more than they had fewer 418 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: first times than Arthur Smith looking disgusted. The defense did 419 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: his job. Like in this game, it was just a 420 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: bad play by by Desmond Ridder. Here's the problem. It's 421 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: a division game of less than a field goal. Overall 422 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: dogs in division games are sixty games above five hundred 423 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: the last decade, fading division home teams. Division home teams 424 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 1: are out winning, covering it just a forty six percent clip, 425 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 1: including thirteen and fifteen this year when the division team, 426 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: when the home team in the division is a favorite, 427 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: forty four point seven percent against the spread. Everything is 428 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: telling us, from last week's performances to the trends. You 429 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: take the Atlanta. 430 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,239 Speaker 2: Falcons, Yeah, I think I think you thought you might 431 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: have better because I was like thinking about betting this 432 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 2: Sunday night on the Bucks. I was like, all right, 433 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 2: getting them under a field goal against this this Atlanta team. 434 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 2: But you're right. It's like I'm probably I'm probably selling 435 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: too low here on this Atlanta team, and I'm still 436 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: probably too high in this Bucks team. Like this number 437 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 2: is what it should be. It feels like it's right, 438 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: So I guess the value is on Atlanta here. But 439 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: I'm with you, like this is a this is a 440 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 2: tough one, so maybe I'll have a better read on 441 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: him by Thursday. But if you say it right now, 442 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: it's like, ugh, Chad's right. The right move is taking 443 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 2: Atlanta here. It's just it's painful to do because it's 444 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 2: it's rid or outdoors and he's just sloppy like he's 445 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 2: so if you go back and watch the film, the 446 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: reason Arthur was getting so upset was like he was 447 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: making he was designing plays to have guys open instead 448 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 2: of making the right reads. He's just locking in on 449 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: one receiver and like if the guy's triple covered, that's 450 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 2: who he's throwing it to, Like it doesn't matter to him. 451 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: He's not going through his progression. So it's another game. 452 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: This week is tough, like there's just games. We gotta 453 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 2: just gotta pun of eat it. Just take these bad teams. 454 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 2: And this is another one where it's like the value 455 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 2: is technically on Atlanta, like you're getting them at two 456 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,840 Speaker 2: and a half, we're supposed to take Atlanta. I just 457 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 2: I don't have it in me yet to pull the 458 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: trigger on it. I'm hoping it gets the three because 459 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: again that's another key number. But Atlanta is the spot. 460 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 2: Chad's right, like that's who we're probably going to be 461 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 2: on here. 462 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: It's uh, I think it's going to get to three. 463 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: It's it's uh, it's minus two and a half, minus 464 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: one fifteen. 465 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, the juice is towards the box. 466 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: It's gonna it's going to get to three. So we'll 467 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: hold on that. Detroit at Baltimore, Hello, Detroit Baltimore is 468 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: right now. No, now, it's up to three. So we 469 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 1: bet this right away on Sunday night. We're on the 470 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 1: side of the wise guys. The bets are on the lines. 471 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: The money is on the Ravens Lions. We said this 472 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: last week and we didn't think I could get higher, 473 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 1: which is why we took the box, and that the 474 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: Lions value has never been higher in a burn bus. 475 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: Jared Goff is the most profitable QB against spread the 476 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: past five years. That's getting even better this year. The Ravens, meanwhile, 477 00:23:55,840 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: have not played great coming home from London. Lamarja not 478 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: great as a favorite. We think this is the right 479 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: spot the Lions the last four games seventy percent against 480 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: the spread. Lions and the Ravens have both beaten their 481 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: opponents this season by seven plunts points per game. They 482 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 1: face off in Week sevens when two teams winning by 483 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: seven plus points per game on the year meet this 484 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: late in the season. The favorite covers only forty percent 485 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: of the time in the past twenty years. Jeez, I 486 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: know we bet Baltimore at two and a half. We 487 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: already did it, which sucks. 488 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: I was gonna make this, my Simon says, playfel still 489 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 2: two and a half. Like I love I still love Baltimore, 490 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 2: I love the value on Baltimore. I still love them 491 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 2: at minus three, I make this line minus three and 492 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 2: a half, and I just I just know if they 493 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 2: go to mines three and a half, this will be 494 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 2: the most public bed team we got the London stats 495 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: of like these teams that come back, it's always a 496 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 2: one possession game in the second half like that. That 497 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 2: that's ring true. Last week they played close, So yeah, 498 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 2: looking at this, it's more about fading the Lions. That 499 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: the fact that who have they played right? Last week? 500 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: They beat up on Tampa. The week before, they beat 501 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: up on Carolina, the week before, they beat up on 502 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: Green Bay. The week before they beat up they beat 503 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: up on Atlanta, and then they lost to the Seahawks 504 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 2: at home. So they've been doing what they should do 505 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: right they've been beating bad teams. They're running into a 506 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: really good team in this Ravens team, Like they're really good. 507 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 2: And we're catching Lamar after a game where I don't 508 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: think he played great against Tennessee, like it just it 509 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: just didn't seem like it was one of his better games. 510 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: And usually he bounces back big time against teams like this. 511 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 2: So Detroit, I think they've gotten away with some games here, 512 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 2: but you're about to get a true Northeast fall game apparently, 513 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: like apparently the weather might be bad this weekend up 514 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 2: in Baltimore. So I'm pissed this lines moved. I really 515 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,199 Speaker 2: thought the public was gonna come in and hammer this 516 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 2: Lions team. So the fact that Evan just put our 517 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 2: chest supposed to be very windy, come on, Like they 518 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: just lost Montgomery. I think Gibbs is still out. The 519 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 2: Detroit running back to rookie like Reynolds made a hell 520 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: of a block. Reynolds is not a great running back. 521 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,520 Speaker 2: It's a reason he's their third stringer. Like the Troit 522 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: this game is what we think. It's gonna be a 523 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 2: really windy game. You need to have a running running back, 524 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: and you know the Ravens Yeah, they've had plug and 525 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,919 Speaker 2: play guys in that backfield, but it's all about Lamar. 526 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: Like Lamar's running style is the game changer here. So 527 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 2: I'm pissed this game be Simon says, I loved it 528 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: at minus two and a half, but still love it 529 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 2: at minus three. If me and Chat are faced with 530 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 2: the choice, I'm gonna do my best not to let 531 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: the minus three and a half scare me off. Come 532 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: Sunday we make our final five. But this just feels 533 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,920 Speaker 2: like a good spot to back this Ravens team against 534 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: the lines. 535 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. And it's like, look, we could twist 536 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: yourself in k nots finding reasons to bet both sides. 537 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's about instinct and having done this a lot, 538 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: and the the pace that the Lions are on is unsustainable. 539 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: So you can keep betting against the Lions and at 540 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: some point you will win, right, And so it's just 541 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: a question of do you want to keep taking that 542 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: shot and do you think you're going to find the 543 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: right spot. If they continue to do this, then they're 544 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: going to go seventeen to one on the year, They're 545 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: going to race through the playoffs, and they're going to 546 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. Like it. They have to come 547 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: back to earth. Regression is a part of the game. 548 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: It just it. Yeah, and Saric Goff is not as 549 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: good outside, and like it's a great coaching matchup. The 550 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 1: total is forty two, by the way, so you might 551 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: want to grab the under right now if we think 552 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: that weather's going to be as concern. It's a hard 553 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: one though, and three in the contest is probably gonna 554 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: be three and a half. 555 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just enjoy this week, Lions man, it's like, 556 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 2: this is your guys week. The Eagles lost the forty 557 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: nine ers loss. The Lions are like, are we the 558 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 2: best team the NFC? Like, the Lions fans are really 559 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 2: saying that right now, pulling their chest out. So it's 560 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 2: got to feel good if you a lionspan. I had 561 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: a really good offense, a really good defense, Your special 562 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: teams is really good. It's like, that's that's the dream scenario. Like, 563 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 2: you guys are a top three, top four team right 564 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 2: in the NFC. And yeah, you don't have the historical 565 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 2: date on your side that makes me have any confidence 566 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: for you guys to make a Super Bowl run. What 567 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: do you have one playoff win in fifty years something? 568 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 2: Crazy like that. This Lions fans enjoy this week because 569 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: usually Me and Chad are right in these spots. Just 570 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,760 Speaker 2: a nice spot to back to Shravens team here. People, 571 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,400 Speaker 2: don't let the numbers carry off. Me and Chad were 572 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 2: the original Lion lovers. We were all over them last 573 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: year ten to one, nine to one. I lost a 574 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: lot of money bet and then to win that division. 575 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 2: So don't don't say we're not lying lovers. We loved 576 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 2: the line. 577 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: Nobody can. Anyone who's listened to this podcast knows we 578 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: are like a Dan Campbell podcast. 579 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: And as honest as I can, I don't. I really 580 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 2: don't even know how to respond to that. I mean, 581 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 2: I'm shocked by that. 582 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 1: We root so hard for the Lions because we know 583 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: the NFL is better with Dan Campbell in the league. 584 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 1: We never want Dan Campbell to get fired. We want 585 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: him to be coaching as long as we have this podcast. 586 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: All right, We love the lines. We just want to 587 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: fade him in this spot. All right, dude, we're getting 588 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: down to the end of the schedule here. We still 589 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: always Simon says, we still owe an exec decision. We're 590 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: talking about Arizona at Seattle Seattle is up to an 591 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 1: eight point favorite in this game, So I think I 592 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I I slight, slight slight lean to Arizona for no 593 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: on field reason. A little bit because of the number, 594 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: but it really relates to Evan's stats from above with 595 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: regard to divisional games and just in this spot, favoring 596 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: the dog on the road in a divisional game like 597 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: we passed in Arizona last week. It's a big dog. 598 00:29:54,640 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: The pros liked against LA though well to say, uh, like, 599 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about it, and when we talk about LA, 600 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about you. Love in LA. And 601 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: I felt like Arizona had just reached its ceiling and 602 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: you know, they had overperformed their skill level and now 603 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: everyone had caught up to them. So I don't have 604 00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: a strong opinion on this game. 605 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 2: I honestly failed them just because there's no James Connor. 606 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 2: I just kept thinking to myself, this guy is what 607 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 2: this guy is what makes this offense run. And I 608 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: do feel like I got a little lucky in that 609 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 2: Rams game. They had opportunities and they just didn't come through. 610 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: But I do think it's because he wasn't there, Like 611 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 2: he really is the Lynchpin for that offense where you 612 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: don't realize it, but him pick up the four or 613 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: five on the first or second down carriers and making 614 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 2: that a third and manageable for their you know offense 615 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 2: that needs short third downs. That was such a big 616 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: deal for that offense in Arizona. So if you do 617 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: want to take Arizona, just take them first half. Like 618 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 2: apparently they're one of the best first half teams in football. 619 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: It's the same thing I think Evan every every week 620 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 2: is telling us every week to fay Ridder in the 621 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: first half, and I mean, I don't know what its 622 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 2: stat it's up to, but he might be an oh 623 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 2: for nine or oh for ten in the first half Ridder, 624 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 2: oh for ten, yeah, Ridder. So same thing with Arizona. 625 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: Seems like they're great in the first half and then 626 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 2: second half their all offense just doesn't do well like 627 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: they they're just whatever it is that happens in the 628 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: adjustments and after the first half. Their second half is 629 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: never as good Arizona. So if you do want to 630 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 2: take Arizona and a big number, go first half. For me, 631 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 2: full game. I love the Seahawks here. They're just after 632 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 2: a loss coming home. Their defense has really shown me 633 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 2: something this year, like they they really are talking a 634 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: lot of big game and you know, they for the 635 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: most part, have stepped it up. The only team that 636 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: really dominated them was the Rams in Week one, and 637 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: the Lions put up a ton ton of points. But 638 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 2: we talk all the time lines indoor. That's just different teams. 639 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: So it's a big number for the Seahawks team here. 640 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 2: But I got to take some chalk, and this is 641 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 2: this is one of the teams I'm gonna take here 642 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: for the chalk. I'll take Seahawks minus eight at home. 643 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: Simon says, No, don't worry. 644 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 2: Simon says, it's coming. It's coming. They're the only big 645 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: favorite I really like this week. Seahawks. 646 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: All right, the Steelers are visiting the Rams. We talked 647 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: about this game on Sunday night. 648 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 2: You're all over it. 649 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: When I said I was all over it, you gave 650 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,360 Speaker 1: me that concerned look you give when you're like, I 651 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: don't know about that one, Chad. And when you say 652 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: I don't know about that one, Chad. We've been doing 653 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: this long enough for me to know that, like you're 654 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: really saying I'm stepping in it. But yeah, no, you 655 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,000 Speaker 1: don't want to write you think so, because like, yeah, 656 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm a little nervous about it right now. Like I 657 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: love this game. I bet it Sunday night, and it 658 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: feels like a raw ross spot for Tomlin. 659 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 2: Not the greatest of all time. 660 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 1: Look at your work, every precedent we believe in that 661 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,240 Speaker 1: we've bet on in the past, where we know it's 662 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: the right thing to do is backing him and the 663 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: Steelers in this spot. They are fifty six thirty one 664 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: and four against the spread as underdogs under Tomlin four 665 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,719 Speaker 1: percent against the spread, most profitable coach past twenty years. 666 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 1: They're coming off of by Deontay Johnson is is practicing again, 667 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: he could return. Kieran Williams is out for the Rams. 668 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: But you've been on the Rams all off season. You 669 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 1: were on them last week against the Cardinals, didn't You 670 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: were not buying the Cardinals. So, like, what am I 671 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: doing here? Am I right? Am I wrong? 672 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: That's a moment right here for you young stars, Let's 673 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: live now. I think you're right. If you grabbed the 674 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 2: three and a half, which this line was three and 675 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: a half. My fear with this is if it's fourteen nothing, Rams, 676 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: you are dead. Your ticket on Pittsburgh is dead. And 677 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: that's the fear here where it's like it's my dream 678 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: is coming true. Like Cooper cup Stafford healthy, it's Week seven, 679 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: they're three and three, Like this was my dream scenario 680 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: for this Rams team, Like they're just let these guys 681 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: stay healthy. They're going to surprise people win games, and 682 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 2: that's what they've been doing. Like Pooka with Cooper Cup up, 683 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 2: it's a great one two punch for that wide receiving course. 684 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, Williams being out, it's not good. That guy 685 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: is a big deal to that Rams team. He's been 686 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 2: really really great for them in the red zone, especially 687 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 2: running the ball. So I'll downgrade a little bit. But 688 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 2: that's the fear here with this Pittsburgh team, Like Kenny 689 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,720 Speaker 2: is not good, that offense is not good Canada arguably 690 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,760 Speaker 2: when the worst o season all football. And I should 691 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 2: have said this that Lions guy what's his name, Ben 692 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 2: Johnson thro oc Yeah, the Bears. He should be the 693 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: first call the Bears make this offseason, Like if you 694 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 2: do get rid, burn it all down, get a new quarterback. 695 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: What this guy's done with that Detroit offense? Every week 696 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: they have guys in and out. He caters to the 697 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 2: strengths of that offense, and that's what you want. Canada 698 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: is the exact opposite. Like Canada, he does not cater 699 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 2: to the strains of this Pittsburgh team's offense. So that's 700 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: my fear here, Chad. Where it's like the Rams. Maybe 701 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,399 Speaker 2: we're buying an overvalued spot. But I you just saw 702 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 2: teams I liked last week coming off of bye week. 703 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 2: Their offenses look sluggish. I mean the Chargers coming off 704 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: of bye week. That offense didn't look right. We've seen 705 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: that time and time again happen on some of these 706 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 2: offenses coming off of bye week. They just don't look 707 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: game speed ready. That's the fear here, Chad. We're buying it. 708 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 2: We're back in a Pittsburgh team on the road, Kenny, 709 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 2: on the road against the high powered offense. The Rams 710 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 2: strength isn't their defense, it's that offense. So I want 711 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 2: to get there with you. But if it's at three, 712 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 2: I'm not as confident where I am. If it's three 713 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 2: and a half, I could see myself getting on Pittsburgh. 714 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 2: But right now three I'm still still leaning towards the 715 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 2: Rams here. But it is a tough one. For me. Man. 716 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: We make the simple complex in this business, don't we. 717 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we're on the Steelers like we're running 718 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: down the list here. We've got an interesting menu of 719 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: games that we'll have to review on Thursday. As sort of. 720 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 2: We're buying alone. So many teams of the public perceive 721 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: as something where they're just they're just not what they 722 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 2: think they are. Like teams just had bad weeks people, 723 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 2: That's what it is. 724 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 1: By the way, after the show a couple of weeks ago, 725 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: when we took the Steelers plus four against Baltimore, Matt 726 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: Mitchell asked one of our engineers, Dustin, who has a 727 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 1: lovely singing voice, to record a very special song. This 728 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 1: is our Howard Stern mock song moment starring Dustin. Please enjoy. 729 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: I gotta bet my Tom and catching bull. 730 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: Open loss a home. 731 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:35,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, couldn't ask for now, A big strong drink. I'm 732 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 2: gonna for away. We're gonna sor because I gotta bet 733 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 2: Mike Tomline catches. 734 00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: For all right Green Bay at Denver moved him up 735 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: plus one for the Broncos opened to plus two. Your 736 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: first comment on Sunday Night Gotta watch Sunday Night Show 737 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 1: that's where you get the best of the number. First comment, 738 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: this is a stinky line. Yeah, at that point it 739 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: was plus two, Like I said, now it's plus one. 740 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: Huge. 741 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 1: One of the biggest Pro Joe games of the week. 742 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: All the money on Denver at Denver Broncos. We had 743 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: been saying all season, like, Russell Wilson wasn't the problem, right, 744 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: he wasn't getting better, but he wasn't the reason they 745 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: were losing. Their defense was the reason. Then, Russell Wilson 746 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 1: was terrible against Kansas City, laid an egg. Sean Payton 747 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: called a terrible game. 748 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,520 Speaker 2: We still almost covered though. That's the craziest part, dude, 749 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: if you got. 750 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,080 Speaker 1: Eleven, you at least like, look, we love the under. 751 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: In that game. 752 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: We had the I had a sixty yard field goal 753 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: Prime time under. 754 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 1: We got it. But and look, at one point the 755 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: line was eleven. So if you could find me eleven, 756 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:52,240 Speaker 1: which we talked about, then uh, you at least pushed 757 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: but advanced. Joseph fixed the defense against the Chiefs. We 758 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: love the Broncos. 759 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, I gotta do it, got it, gotta tick 760 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: the Broncos. I hate it people, And if you're sick 761 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: of losing these close games by the Broncos. Totally get it. 762 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: You can tease it up like I know plenty of 763 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,160 Speaker 2: people that were like I couldn't get there. You guys 764 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 2: on the chargers by to put them in a teaser. 765 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:14,440 Speaker 2: It feels like the same kind of thing here where 766 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:15,839 Speaker 2: it's like, if you can find the one and a half, 767 00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 2: get up to seven and a half, or take the 768 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,479 Speaker 2: one up to seven, go for it. But we're talking 769 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 2: straight bets still love it, chat. We love Denver no 770 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 2: matter what. Is a dog here. If it flips to 771 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 2: them being a favorite, we know that Evan stat maybe 772 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,440 Speaker 2: we'll get off of this one. But as you sit 773 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: here as a dog, how do you not love Denver here? 774 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, I bet at it two. I'm 775 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 1: imagining that if it stays at Denver as a dog, 776 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna want to put it in the contest. You 777 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: gotta keep taking it if it flips. I wouldn't take it, 778 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: Like there are some pretty good trends against taking the 779 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 1: favorite when they've been the underdog. But yeah, look, we're 780 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,760 Speaker 1: just going to keep losing money on betting on the Broncos, 781 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: and we're going to keep losing money betting it install Lions. 782 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: It's just how it's going to be, and we hope 783 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: that on the edges, the other games that we don't 784 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,879 Speaker 1: bet every single week, the other teams that we don't 785 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: bet every week, are going to come through for us. 786 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 1: Look the La Chargers last night at home off of 787 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: by revenge game for Kellen Moore. They had that game. 788 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: We bet it a two and a half. They really 789 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:32,000 Speaker 1: should have won that game. If I may, I bet 790 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: this game at Chargers plus six on Sunday night. It 791 00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 1: moved pretty quickly. I still like it. To my exec decision, 792 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I can't quit the Chargers. You gotta do it. 793 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: Look at the look there's the situation for the Chargers 794 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: getting embarrassed and beat badly in a lot of ways. 795 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,480 Speaker 1: It's not a blowout, but beat badly in a primetime game. 796 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: The value will be flated. Although I don't think this 797 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,240 Speaker 1: line will move very much against a Kansas City team 798 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: that feels too good. You know, I think the line 799 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 1: is inflated right now. 800 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 2: I'm almost positive Evan had some crazy stat about all 801 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: the losses this Chargers teams had with Herbert. And it's 802 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 2: always close games and especially these divisional games are always 803 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 2: close games, so it feels like we're getting honestly two 804 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 2: free points of value. Yeah, here it is. Nineteen of 805 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 2: the chargers last twenty four games have been decided by 806 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 2: seven points or less, dating back to Week eighteen of 807 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one. So you know, Chargers last eight losses 808 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,719 Speaker 2: were by three, three, two, one, three, seven, three and six. Like, 809 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 2: this is just a team that I get it. If 810 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 2: you're like, just like last week, if you're scared off 811 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 2: by the low number, tease them up again. They win 812 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: and play close, ugly games, Like if they're gonna lose, 813 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:53,799 Speaker 2: they're gonna lose by three. If they win, they're gonna 814 00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 2: win by three. The Chargers just they have horrible coaching 815 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,359 Speaker 2: and it's just the way it is, like whenever they 816 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 2: shouldn't make the right decision. Even yesterday, like your defense 817 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 2: is playing incredible. If you kick a field goal the 818 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,879 Speaker 2: game was tied, it would have been tied ten to ten. 819 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 2: Instead he went for it, didn't work out, end up 820 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 2: game coming down to a field goal at the very end, 821 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 2: and they lost by three. It's like the guy s 822 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 2: Daley just doesn't make the right choices and he tries 823 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 2: to blame analytics or do whatever with that stuff. It's like, 824 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 2: nah Man situational awareness. Your defense was totally dominating, which 825 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 2: was shocking that Dallas offense. And you know they didn't 826 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 2: take the three there, So five and a half, Chad, 827 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 2: I mean, this would have been amazing. At six like 828 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 2: this would have been such an auto play in the contest. 829 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,400 Speaker 2: But still five and a half, still would happily put 830 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,680 Speaker 2: this in the contest. 831 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 1: Well, look, I'll refer back to what I said earlier 832 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: when I was talking about the division games and the 833 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: Falcons and the Bucks Dogs in division games, sixty games 834 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: above five hundred against the spread the past decade, home 835 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: division favorite, let's cover at a forty four point seven 836 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: clip forty five percent the past twenty years. Home division 837 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 1: favorites only covering forty five percent the past five years. 838 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 1: And then, by the way, let's talk about Mahomes right, 839 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: like Mahomes as a favorite of three and a half 840 00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,720 Speaker 1: or more, well under five hundred. This is a spot 841 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: where because the number is so big, it's always inflated 842 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. Everything is saying that the Chargers in 843 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: this game. Everything exec decision, you. 844 00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 2: Know me, regardless of what's going on. I'm a Foxhole guy. 845 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,160 Speaker 2: I commit to a team, I commit to a city. 846 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 2: I'm a Foxhold guy. 847 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,440 Speaker 1: Here we go, all right, Simon, Let's talk about the 848 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 1: Sunday night football game. Game of the week. Boys, Sunday 849 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: Night got a great game. Miami Dolphins visiting the Philadelphia Eagles. 850 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 1: The Eagles are one and a half points favorites. According 851 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,920 Speaker 1: to bet three six five. These two teams have the 852 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,240 Speaker 1: second shortest odd to win their conference and third and fifth, 853 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 1: with the Eagles and Dolphins respectively shortest odds to win 854 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. This is the big one. All the 855 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: money is on Philly. Wise, guys like Philly, majority of 856 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,560 Speaker 1: the tickets on Miami makes sense. The line has moved. 857 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: Was it two and a half now? Is it one 858 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: and a half? Last week against the Jets felt like 859 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: a game the Eagles just had to get out of 860 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,839 Speaker 1: their system right like they have been playing on the 861 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: edge of mistakes and just not getting burned by it. 862 00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: Last week they played a defense that burned them. Something 863 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: tells me that this could be an important game for. 864 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 2: You, Steimon says. 865 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: Simon says. 866 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 2: When Simon says do it, we do. What Sion says. 867 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 2: Gotta grab the one and a half while you can 868 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 2: A bunch of books are still showing two and a half, 869 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,719 Speaker 2: So I easily can see it going back up to 870 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 2: two and a half, depends on what book, but you 871 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:55,480 Speaker 2: can get it one and a half at I'm seeing 872 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 2: five books right now. So easiest bet of the week, 873 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,759 Speaker 2: Like this might not be the being a real big 874 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 2: bet for your boy. What do we know about this 875 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 2: Miami team? They have a bad defense, a defense that 876 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 2: when they play bad teams, they don't care about giving 877 00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 2: up a ton of yards. All they gotta do is 878 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: top in the red zone because they know their offense 879 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 2: is going to score for them. But we saw in 880 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 2: that Bills game Tua and pressure that's the kryptonite. Like, 881 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 2: if you got our front four that can get pressure 882 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 2: with just rushing for that's how you beat this Miami team. 883 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 2: What do we have here in this Eagles team? One 884 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 2: of the best d lens in all football. Jalen Carter 885 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,799 Speaker 2: is supposed to be back. Apparently they took him out 886 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 2: last week just so they want to push it. They 887 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 2: wanted to rest them last weekgainst the Jets. Same with 888 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 2: Darius Slay. They're supposed to both be back for this 889 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,760 Speaker 2: Sunday night game, catching the Eagles after a really bad loss. 890 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 2: It feels like the perfect spot to back a veteran 891 00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 2: team at home in prime time under a field goal 892 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 2: against you know, one of the most hyped offenses and 893 00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 2: we've ever seen in all football. Like, I got no 894 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 2: doubt that the Miami'll put up points and get their own. 895 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,080 Speaker 2: I got this same thing about the Eagles. Eagles are 896 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 2: going to be able to score at will in this 897 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 2: game against this Miami defense. Like Miami's got no one 898 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:08,879 Speaker 2: on their defense. I see them having advantage of wise 899 00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 2: against the Eagles team where the Eagles defense has a 900 00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: huge advantage with that front four, Like if they can 901 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,879 Speaker 2: get pressure with just four guys that the Bills did, 902 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: if you take away the run and put it all 903 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: into a that's not where they want to be. Like shockingly, 904 00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,640 Speaker 2: people don't realize Miami is right now on the best 905 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 2: not only the best passing teams, the best running teams. 906 00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:29,000 Speaker 2: Most at He's on pace for like thirty one touchdowns 907 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 2: right now. They're running back for Miami, Like this guy 908 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: is playing out of his mind. So looking at this, 909 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 2: I'm shocked that so much money's coming on the Eagles 910 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 2: I really did think more people would be on this 911 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: Dolphins team and they would like this spot for them. 912 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 2: But I can't believe it's down to one and a half, 913 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 2: like such a good number, such good value on an 914 00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 2: Eagles team that we have to back them here. Like 915 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,759 Speaker 2: after such a bad loss against the Jets, Hurts his 916 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 2: worst game of the year, what have we seen. We've 917 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 2: seen after the Chiefs play that Jets team a huge 918 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 2: bounce back game, the Bills Josh Allen huge bounce back game. 919 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 2: So these quarterbacks, we think Hurts is one of these 920 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:09,240 Speaker 2: elite quarterbacks. He should bounce back here. If he doesn't, 921 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 2: that tells you that something's wrong with Hurts and this 922 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 2: Eagles offense. So we got to play this spot. Play 923 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,399 Speaker 2: the Eagles here to bounce back and trust that front 924 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 2: four again, pressure onto it. Like the Miami matches up 925 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 2: really well against ninety percent of the teams in this league. 926 00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 2: But teams like the Eagles, teams like the Cleveland teams, 927 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 2: that front four that can get pressure, that's the game changer. 928 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 2: So yeah, maybe we're getting value r now because Eagles 929 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 2: are so banged up. Chat but if Jalen Carter's cleared, 930 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 2: if slays back, man, this is such a good number 931 00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 2: right now for this Eagles team. 932 00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh that one and a half is just 933 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,480 Speaker 1: hanging there in certain spots, but there's a lot of twos, 934 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,040 Speaker 1: so you got to grab the one and a half. 935 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,799 Speaker 1: If you're listening right now, what's the ceiling for you 936 00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,759 Speaker 1: on betting the Eagles as a as one of your 937 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:02,560 Speaker 1: bigger bets? Like I can hear you talking about this, 938 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 1: and as you're talking about it, I'm firing away on 939 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,520 Speaker 1: the Eagles minus one and a half wherever I can 940 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: find it. Yeah, I know enough to know when you 941 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,800 Speaker 1: when you say this might be one of my big bets, 942 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: it means it might be a big bet. 943 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 2: And so it's getting there. 944 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: What's your ceiling on the number? Like when do you 945 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: stop firing. 946 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 2: Away after two? So I'll keep fire even at a two, 947 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 2: I'll keep fireing at this Once it's two and a 948 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,640 Speaker 2: half three, that's when I'll stop. And you know, if 949 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,239 Speaker 2: this was three and a half in our contest and 950 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,600 Speaker 2: you guys wanted to fade us, totally get it. That's 951 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 2: such a key number. But if we're getting two and 952 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 2: a half or one and a half in the contest, easy, No, 953 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 2: brainer play for me on the Eagles. 954 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: Why don't you just fire away? If it's at one 955 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: and a half, why don't you just bet everything that 956 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,440 Speaker 1: you think you would bet at once? I'm not judging it. 957 00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm asking curiously. Like you see it's at 958 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: one and a half, you love it. Why don't I 959 00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: bet the full capacity of what you would bet on 960 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: a game at that one time instead of all right, 961 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 1: some down? Now, oh it's still there two days later, 962 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: I'll put it more down. Like what's the philosophy to 963 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 1: get money down? 964 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:07,319 Speaker 2: I have to pay a lot of people, and they're 965 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 2: called runners. And the biggest thing is not getting up 966 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 2: on the radar. So obviously if I come in me, 967 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,240 Speaker 2: myself and I and put fifty k on the Eagles, 968 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,719 Speaker 2: that number would move against me. Right, But if I'm 969 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,080 Speaker 2: sending nobodies a thousand bucks here and there at a time. 970 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 2: So I started Sunday night and now we're here Tuesday, 971 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 2: you know, I'm probably up to almost six figures now, 972 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,440 Speaker 2: but all in small increments, so I'm not really popping 973 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,120 Speaker 2: up on the radar. That's how I get good value 974 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,600 Speaker 2: on these lines. So yeah, do I want to just 975 00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:39,839 Speaker 2: come in heavy handed? Right now and just be like, yeah, 976 00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:43,120 Speaker 2: give me, give me six figures on this Eagles team. Yeah, 977 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:44,680 Speaker 2: but it doesn't really work that way, and a lot 978 00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,600 Speaker 2: of stuff goes into that. So yeah, don't worry. I'm 979 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 2: getting the money down. But it's one of these where 980 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 2: I'll bet it all week and then by Friday, if 981 00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,480 Speaker 2: it's still at this number, I can get way more 982 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 2: money down than I can right now, because right now, 983 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 2: the books, even the best books in America, they live 984 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,640 Speaker 2: you early in the week because they don't want to 985 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: have a bad position either. So you know, all these 986 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 2: things like ravel tweets out, oh this is a two 987 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 2: hundred k bet on this team. You ever notice that 988 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,319 Speaker 2: always comes late in the week. It's not early in 989 00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 2: the week, those tweets, And that's for a reason. Like 990 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 2: these books, even if you're an amateur better, they're not 991 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 2: going to take huge money early in the week because 992 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,200 Speaker 2: they just don't want to have that kind of thing 993 00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 2: where it's like, okay, now we need Miami money wherever. 994 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,719 Speaker 2: That book will need a certain amount of money to 995 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,359 Speaker 2: offset those big bets. So yeah, I wish I could 996 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 2: get more down right now. Chat, But it's just the 997 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 2: song and dance, the way I play it, it's just 998 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,680 Speaker 2: little bets right now. A little bets for me is 999 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 2: a couple of thousand, So it adds up quick like 1000 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:39,640 Speaker 2: if you do a couple thousand dollars bets, all of 1001 00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:42,120 Speaker 2: a sudden, you're up to fifty k. So that's how 1002 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 2: I do. I just don't put a ton lump sum 1003 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,040 Speaker 2: down on one number right away. 1004 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: You know what, I'm not worried about your ability to 1005 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,840 Speaker 1: get money down. I'm worried that it took me about 1006 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: four years to ask that question. The last game on 1007 00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: the board, the Monday night football game San Francisco in Minnesota, 1008 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: this line moved from eight to seven six and a half. 1009 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: And how so the wise guys have been coming in 1010 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: on Minnesota Kirk Cousins. This is weird, right, Kirk Cousins 1011 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 1: most attempts in the league, passing attempts, most completions, highest 1012 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: completion percentage, most touchdown passes in the league, which is 1013 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,160 Speaker 1: surprising to know when I was looking doing research yesterday. 1014 00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: Second most passing yards. This team cannot score, as we 1015 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,720 Speaker 1: like to say in the media business at scale, zero 1016 00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns this season. Do they miss Dalvin Cook? Zero 1017 00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,440 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns? So against the league's best passing defense and 1018 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: a top ten rush defense, they will move the ball 1019 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,480 Speaker 1: against the Bears. This Vikings team fewer total yards, fewer plays, 1020 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:50,160 Speaker 1: fewer yards per play, fewer first downs, forty six rushing yards, 1021 00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 1: and the Bears, we all agree, are a terrible freaking defense. 1022 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: So to me, I know wise guys have come in 1023 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,839 Speaker 1: on this. This is a bet on the number, and 1024 00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: that's it. And maybe there's some residual health issues for 1025 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,480 Speaker 1: San Francisco. This is not a bet on the on 1026 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:08,720 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings. 1027 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted to be on Minnesota. I feel like 1028 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:13,879 Speaker 2: this is gonna be a great spot to back down. 1029 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,719 Speaker 2: But I'm with you. I think the numbers moved too 1030 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 2: much and now the values on the forty nine ers. 1031 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 2: So I'll throw a little on the forty nine ers 1032 00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 2: tea and I'll talk to people and see what they're 1033 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 2: seeing this Vikings team. But I'm right there with you. 1034 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 2: It's I agree to the spread. McCaffrey probably is worth 1035 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 2: a point and a half two points this forty nine 1036 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 2: Ers team. That's how incredibly gifted he is on this team, 1037 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:38,399 Speaker 2: Like he not only is the run blocking scheme really good, 1038 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 2: but he is the jack of all trades. We all 1039 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 2: know this. He's the best running back in football for 1040 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,840 Speaker 2: a reason, and the best running scheme of football. So 1041 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 2: makes sense that they've lost some points here and it's 1042 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: numbers come down. I think it's moved too much. So 1043 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,880 Speaker 2: I totally got the pros are coming from like this. 1044 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,520 Speaker 2: This usually would be a spot. I love the back 1045 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 2: of Minnesota, but coming off a bad loss, it was like, 1046 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 2: we should take the forty nine ers here right like 1047 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 2: this is we're catching the there a touchdown, So maybe 1048 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 2: maybe things will change by Thursday. But I can tell 1049 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 2: you this right now, like right with me and jag 1050 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,160 Speaker 2: Off this call up, I'm gonna throw some on the 1051 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 2: six and a half. That's just a good number four 1052 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,160 Speaker 2: forty nine Ers team that what if they won, this 1053 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,240 Speaker 2: number would still be what seven and a half seven? 1054 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,279 Speaker 2: So it feels like we're getting some free points here 1055 00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,399 Speaker 2: because they're kicking. I missed a field goal. And yeah, 1056 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 2: I know Kirk's been better in prime time. I saw 1057 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 2: some stat that he has been better since he's gotten 1058 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 2: the Minnesota but you know you just said it. They 1059 00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 2: have no run game. He's down his number one receiver 1060 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 2: going against my number two grated defense now in all 1061 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,360 Speaker 2: football like this, this forty nine Ers team, it should 1062 00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:43,799 Speaker 2: be really easy. I'll scheme scheme this game up. It's 1063 00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 2: like you just drop everybody, rush for three pass rushers 1064 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 2: and let your let your front four do what you 1065 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 2: pay them so much money do, like Bosa Hardgrave like, 1066 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,880 Speaker 2: this should be a great game for them. So damn 1067 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,839 Speaker 2: I really wanted to get there the Minnesota. 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