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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Walking to move the sticks? DJ, Bucky

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Speaker 2: Man? I'm good.

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Speaker 2: The thing about a schedule release to me that's exciting

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Speaker 1: No, no doubt. It is a handle with care, fragile.

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Speaker 1: that and I say, Okay, that's a good that's a

432
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: that's not a bad launching pad there for Caleb Williams

433
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: could be a lot worse.

434
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be a lot worse. And you know

435
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,880
Speaker 2: the thing that you like about Kayla Williams situation really

436
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,679
Speaker 2: really early in the year. He's supported with a veteran

437
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,679
Speaker 2: crew around him. I mean, yes, Roman Dunes was a

438
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: top ten pick. He's a Ricky mckennan, Allen DJ Moore

439
00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,160
Speaker 2: being there at cole K Matt being there, what they've

440
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 2: done with the offensive line, DeAndre been a player that

441
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,439
Speaker 2: has played in this league at a comfort level in

442
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 2: terms of those guys being able to protect the young quarterback.

443
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 2: Hey man, you just get the ball to us. We'll

444
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 2: take care of everything. Don't feel like you got to

445
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: go outside of yourself those early games. He should be

446
00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 2: able to get away that. And what you hope is

447
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 2: he flashes enough early while he's just kind of managing

448
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: the situation that then you can kind of loosen the

449
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,640
Speaker 2: reins and Alighim be the playmaker that he was at USC.

450
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,199
Speaker 2: It's a gradual process, but he will let you know

451
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: when he's ready to do that. But a conservative game

452
00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,440
Speaker 2: plan early where it's a lot of underneath stuff where

453
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: you let the perimeter playmakers kind of go to work,

454
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: and then you begin to unleash Kayle Williams as he

455
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,000
Speaker 2: delivers that confidence. I would expect him to make that

456
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 2: major jump the last half of the season, the last

457
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: six seven games. That's when the game should finally slow

458
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 2: down and then we should be able to see the

459
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: Kaya Williams that really impressed a lot of scouts when

460
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 2: he was at USC.

461
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Speaker 1: Yeah, an interesting thing at the end of the year.

462
00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: I know one thing I moved. I lived in Baltimore

463
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:17,440
Speaker 1: for only two years and I spent in college at

464
00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 1: app State. I was up there for three years and

465
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,199
Speaker 1: it got cold up there in the mountains. But I

466
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: will say after moving home twice, after being in colder climates,

467
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 1: it did not take long for me to soften up. Buck.

468
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 1: I did not want anything to do with cold weather.

469
00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: I know Caleb grew up in d C. So he's

470
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Speaker 1: used to cold weather. It's not like he was Southern

471
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Speaker 1: California kid that went to USC But it's going to

472
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: be a reintroduction to that cold weather when you finished

473
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 1: the season with the Detroit Lions in Chicago on December

474
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Speaker 1: twenty second, Seattle in a night game December twenty sixth

475
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,960
Speaker 1: in Chicago, that's going to be butt cold and the

476
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: last game of the year at the Green Bay Packers. So,

477
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: however soft we all get when we live on the

478
00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,879
Speaker 1: West Coast, when it comes to weather, you have to

479
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:01,880
Speaker 1: take those cobwebs off and get used to that cold

480
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: weather because that is a brutal stretch to end the season.

481
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 2: It is a brutal stretch, and I want everyone to

482
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: think about, like how it impacts the quarterback. It's not

483
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: just like how you feel in terms of physically in

484
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: the cold. Whether they hit hit a little different, they

485
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 2: feel a little different. Is really throwing the ball and

486
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 2: implement conditions. You are an aspiring golf for getting your

487
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:24,720
Speaker 2: lessons all the time.

488
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Speaker 1: The ball yesterday getting worse, getting worse.

489
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 2: That's okay, gotta get worse for you to get better.

490
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 2: The ball flies differently in cold weather than it does

491
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: hot weather. It doesn't fly as far. So Katy William

492
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 2: has to get used to learning that.

493
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 1: All right, Buck, we get to Washington here and day

494
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: Daniels is winning this job, isn't he. I mean he's

495
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: starting week one.

496
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: He's all ready to go. Yeah, I don't even know

497
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,560
Speaker 2: what we're talking about. He should be on the field.

498
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 2: I would think that Cliff Kingsbury want him on the

499
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Speaker 2: field from the jump. Uh. He has so much talent.

500
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: He has the ability to make these things happen, not

501
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: only with his arm, with his legs. He has the

502
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 2: automatic Golden parachute. You know. His athleticism should buy him

503
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,919
Speaker 2: time to be able to work through some of the

504
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: issues that he may have as a thrower, because he's

505
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 2: such a dynamic athlete. Yeah, I want to start him

506
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: right away. And I'm be honest with you, DJ, I'm

507
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: really optimistic about the Washington Commanders in their first season.

508
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 2: I just think Adam Peters and Dan Quinn have done

509
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 2: a really good job of putting this team together. And

510
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 2: even though on paper it may not look like the

511
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 2: sexiest group, I feel like they have the right mix

512
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 2: of veterans to be able to kind of surprise and

513
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 2: jump out. I don't want to call them like the

514
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,199
Speaker 2: Texans where because no one saw the Texans coming. But

515
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: I do believe they can catch lightning in the bottom

516
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: be a much better team than many teams expect.

517
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, they not an easy start in terms of

518
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 1: three of their first four games on the road, open

519
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: up at Tampa, the Giants at home, then at the

520
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: Bengals on a Monday night, at the Cardinals, and then

521
00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 1: so you look at that and go, Okay, well, if

522
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: they weren't going to start him to start the season,

523
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: maybe you do it after those three road games that

524
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: you have in the first four weeks. But then no,

525
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: because then right after that you played the Browns with

526
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, Jim Schwartz and that defense, and then you're

527
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: at the Ravens. So I'd rather have him. I'd rather

528
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: have him get his feet underneath him in those early games,

529
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 1: even though they're on the road three of those four.

530
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Speaker 1: I look at that, I think he should absolutely be

531
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: the starter week one. And the other thing I look

532
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 1: at there is I wish the buye was a little earlier,

533
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: just kind of catch your breath as a young player

534
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: and kind of be able to self evaluate self, scout

535
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: and then finish up strong man. Their buy is not

536
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: till week fourteen. Man, that is a late bye.

537
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,440
Speaker 2: That is a layby. I'm with you, DJ, and here's

538
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 2: why I agree with you. In terms of throwing him in.

539
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: We have seen Jayden Dames have to work through tough times.

540
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 2: He was in college for so long. We've seen how

541
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: he bounces back from at versity. Does she give us

542
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 2: the confidence that whatever happens in the first three or

543
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 2: four games is not going to rattle him to his core.

544
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: He's shown that he's bound back. One of the reasons

545
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 2: why we talked about liking our quarterbacks. But a few

546
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: scuffs in scars, some callouses on the hands from having

547
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 2: to do some tough work. He should be prepared for that.

548
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 2: Fifty five career starts in college. He should be ready

549
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 2: for it in terms of just dealing with having to

550
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: bounce back to resilience. Not saying that he's prepared to

551
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: see what he's going to face in the NFL, but

552
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 2: he has worked through enough tough moments that the first

553
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: side of adversity is not going to necessarily knock him

554
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: off his chart.

555
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm telling you too, man, if we see Pennix, Nicks,

556
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, all those guys have success. It's going to

557
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: create a whole new dialogue for these college coaches to

558
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 1: be like, hey, don't step over, don't step over a

559
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: dollar to pick up a quarter, Like yep, you know

560
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like stay here, you're gonna get starts.

561
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: We're gonna get you forty to fifty starts in college,

562
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna be ready to go and you're

563
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: cana hit the ground running and you're gonna make so

564
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: much money on your second contract. Who cares if you're

565
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 1: the first pick or the or the you know, the

566
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: fifteenth pick in this current draft. Let's wait a year,

567
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 1: Let's get you ready to go, get you prepared, and

568
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 1: there's going to be a long track record of guys

569
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 1: now that we're starting to see who've played a lot

570
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: of football, who've translated really really well. And you got

571
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: the nil. It's not like you're foregoing you know, money, Yeah,

572
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: you're going to cost you some money. You have to

573
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: wait an extra year to get to your second contract,

574
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 1: but make a couple million dollars there while you're in

575
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: college and kind of give yourself a better shot to

576
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 1: hit the ground running. Don't you think that's an easier

577
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: sales pitch? Now for these college coaches.

578
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: Oh, I think the sales pitch is already there, just

579
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: watching like six guys going to top twelve. Three of

580
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: those guys have significant experience, and three of those guys

581
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: were kind of cast aside. Well two of them in particular,

582
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 2: Bo Nicks and Jayden Daniels. People didn't think that they

583
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: would be what they were, but the time that they

584
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,399
Speaker 2: had in college gave them an opportunity to develop and

585
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 2: improve in a game that is really about development. And

586
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,399
Speaker 2: then when it comes to Michael Pennix, his injuries and such,

587
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 2: he needed the extra time to prove the people that

588
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 2: he could be durable enough to do it. I think

589
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: colleges already have a blueprint to be able to commence quarterbacks.

590
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: That is more beneficial for them to stay and play

591
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 2: as opposed to make the first jump. Even though Drake

592
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 2: May and JJ McCarthy did. The tail of the tape

593
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: will be how they perform, because if you're right, if

594
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 2: those older guys perform, well, now you have Brock Praidy

595
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: who has been able to play to a lesser degree,

596
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 2: Aidan O'Connell's been able to play, and they were experienced

597
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 2: players when they entered the National Football League because they

598
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: stayed around in college.

599
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: No doubt. Yeah, I think it's a it's going to

600
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: be the pitch. It's going to be made by these colleges,

601
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: which should be pretty compelling to some of these guys

602
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 1: New England Patriots. Drake may look, there's a lot of

603
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: talk out there, and I tend to lean on this

604
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: side of things, which is I'm not in a hurry

605
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: to get him out there, and some of it, you know, Okay,

606
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: Drake needs time, he needs time to develop, but more

607
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: so to me, I just I don't love the group

608
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: that they have there offensively this point time. I'll let

609
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett go out there and take those shots as

610
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: we try and you know, get more comfortable there. But

611
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: when you look at an insert point for him, you

612
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 1: know they've got a late by Again, they're the fourteenth

613
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: week as well as the Commanders, so it's a late buye.

614
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: You could say, okay, we could wait till then, but

615
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: then you've got two road games to start out there

616
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: at Arizona at Buffalo. That not be the super easy

617
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: you know launch point there, but you finish up with

618
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: those two home games. So two options to me, you

619
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: can start them against the Chargers week seventeen. That gives

620
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: you Chargers and Bills at the end of the year,

621
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: give you two games, kind of get a little look.

622
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: See similar to Mahomes. Mahomes got one start, you know,

623
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: late in the year, at the end of the year

624
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: of his rookie year. The other entry point buck would

625
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: be if you wanted to just get to week eleven.

626
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: So he sits the first ten weeks, then you go,

627
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: he starts at home against the Rams, then you're at

628
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, then you're home with the Colts. So two

629
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: out of three home games and then a bye, so

630
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: you could play those three games, have a buy, let's reset.

631
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: What do we like, what do we not like, what

632
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: we're comfortable, Where can we get you better? What's our

633
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 1: focus as we go down the stretch. It's just kind

634
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: of looking at it like it's a seven game season

635
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 1: for you, three a break, and then we finish up

636
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: with four.

637
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 2: So so the listeners understand from a scouting point lance,

638
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: we always talk about evaluating four games on a prospect,

639
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 2: sometimes depending on the team, and maybe three games. What

640
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: you're talking about is giving the team an opportunity. Hey,

641
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 2: let's get the three games, no matter what it looks like.

642
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: Don't worry about what it looks like. Let's let's throw

643
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: it out there. Let's have him push the envelope. Maybe

644
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: we even do the CJ stride approach. Hey, let's drop back,

645
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: let's let them throw it. Let's get all this stuff

646
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 2: on tape, and then during that by week, let's whittle

647
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: it down and see if we begin to come up

648
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 2: with some game plans that help them the last four

649
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: games of the year. Now we can study all of

650
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: that in the off season to build a better plan

651
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: for him in twenty twenty five. It makes a lot

652
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: of sense to do it that way because those seven

653
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 2: games can be valuable for him learning how to activate

654
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 2: to the speed of the game, and then for us

655
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: learning how to adapt and tweak our game plan and

656
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: our approach to make sure that he feels really, really

657
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: good about what he's being asked to do at quarterback.

658
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: No doubt, we get to the Minnesota Vikings, I do

659
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: think Sam Donold's got a real good shot of keeping

660
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: this job for the whole year. But their bye is

661
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: week six, so Sam's got the Giants, the Niners, and

662
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: Texans at home, then at the Packers and then the Jets.

663
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: So you could look at it as a team with

664
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, high expectations in Minnesota, with a good roster.

665
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: That's not an easy that's not an easy start, especially

666
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: after that first game with Niners, Texans, Packers, Jets, and

667
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: that Jets game will be over in London. So let's

668
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: say there's a scenario where they come out the gate

669
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: and they're you know, one and four, then I could see, okay,

670
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: they could turn it over to JJ McCarthy if they

671
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: have kind of that disastrous start to the season, then

672
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: he would be in there. Week seven Lions at home

673
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: followed by a Thursday night game which kind of gives

674
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: you a mini buye after that before playing the Colts

675
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: at home. So the bye to me is that's the point.

676
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: I think if Sam Donald gets to the by I

677
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,800
Speaker 1: think there's a good chance, greater than fifty percent chance

678
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: that Sam Donald runs the table as the starter for

679
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: this year. But that's a tough that's a tough that's

680
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on Sam Donald. Those six games,

681
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: five of which are very difficult.

682
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, look is a very difficult slave Sam Donald

683
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 2: to jump out in and Kevin O'Connell. Look is a

684
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 2: great play caller and developer of quarterbacks and game plans

685
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 2: to really highlight and showcase to quarterback. Sam Donald has

686
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: the pressure of knowing that man, the bye week is

687
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: so short. It's unlike other guys. I'm sure if he

688
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: was at Isdruthers, he would have it like when d

689
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 2: May has a week four fourteen. Yeah, but the teams

690
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: that he plays, the thing that he will have to

691
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: do is he needs to play well enough to continue

692
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: you to make them feel good. Hey, he gives us

693
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: the best chance to win if he has one or

694
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: two where he lays an egg in those first six weeks.

695
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy's going to be the starter by the time

696
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: we come out of Dabaiwe Yeah, so it's a lot

697
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: of pressure on him, But I look, I think that

698
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 2: competition that he knows, I think that competition can bring

699
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: out the best in him, but also bring out the

700
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: best in JJ McCarthy. I will say this because everyone

701
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 2: talks about JJ McCarthy in the ways, But I don't

702
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 2: know right now if we can confidently say that Minnesota

703
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: is built to support a quarterback. They built to support

704
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: a young quarterback. I don't know if JJ McCarthy is

705
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 2: ready to be the quarterback that the team is built

706
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: to support, meaning they're more built to support a guy

707
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: that's a thrower, and he has played in an offense

708
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: that was more run first or whatever. Not saying that

709
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy can't throw, but it's a different style that

710
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: he's jumping into. Because I've never seen Kevin O'Connell really

711
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: have to dial it back and say, hey, we're going

712
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 2: to run the game through the running back as opposed

713
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: to through the quarterback. That's a different lane to jump in,

714
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: and it may take some time for Kevin O'Connell to

715
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 2: navigate that, and it also may take some time for

716
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy to navigate the other lane, which is, hey,

717
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna run the offense through me. He hasn't had

718
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: to do that as a collician.

719
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: What do you feel about as we get to the

720
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: broncos I know again bo Nick sixty one starts, you say, Okay,

721
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: he's ready to roll throw him out there week one,

722
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: which I don't have a problem if that's the way

723
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: they decide to go. However, if you're looking for an

724
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 1: easier entry point, in other words, let's just watch a

725
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: few weeks here, but go through your week of preparation practice,

726
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: get comfortable see it from the sideline, get a little

727
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 1: bit of a feel for the speed in those things.

728
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: Because you open up at Seattle, Pittsburgh, at home, at

729
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: the Bucks, at the Jets, and I just look at

730
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: that and go, Okay, if we can hold our water

731
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 1: through those first four games, let's let's diet them go

732
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: out there for the first four weeks. See how we do.

733
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: At that point in time. We've got home games with

734
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Chargers before going to the Saints

735
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 1: and then playing the Panthers. That feels like to me,

736
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: after four weeks of just watching, observing, I think there's

737
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: something to be said for having a good entry point

738
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: there for a young quarterback. I always played a lot

739
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: of football, and next to me, bow Knicks getting a

740
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: chance to start against the Raiders October sixth, I like

741
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,319
Speaker 1: that plan a little bit better than throwing them out

742
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: their week one at Seattle.

743
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: Cinema for success. What you're trying to do is cinema

744
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: for success. So if you're Sean Payton, last year you

745
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 2: axed Boeric on Jared Sidham, you thought that Jared Stidam

746
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 2: could play, you can do that will give Jared Sidam

747
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: his opportunity to play, and then after four weeks reevaluate

748
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 2: the situation. If it's going well, you stay with him

749
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 2: and you continue to keep bow Knicks on the sideline.

750
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: The crew of teams that he the collection of teams

751
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: that he's tasked with facing right out the gate very

752
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 2: very difficult. And when you go out on a limb,

753
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: and I'll say this only because it's our perception media

754
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: is perception of what Sean Payton did with bow Knicks

755
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: going out on a limp. Well, if you're going out

756
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: on a limb and everyone is like ready to put

757
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: your reputation instake, give your player that you feel so

758
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 2: strongly about, give him the best opportunity to succeed. And

759
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: that might mean, hey, we're going to sit you down early,

760
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 2: but man, we're going to the bullpen really really early

761
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 2: in this one. Once we get the fifth inning, be ready,

762
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: and so that fourth week, that fifth week BNIX, be

763
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 2: ready to play. Go through your playing, go through your process.

764
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: See what you can learn from observing jerrys Siddams the

765
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: way that he gets ready to play, in how he

766
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: performs a game. And then you got to be able

767
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: to take the ball from.

768
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it'll be interesting decision there for Sean Payton.

769
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: If Bonex goes out there, has a great training camp,

770
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: you know, joint practices, preseason, all that stuff, aces all

771
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: those tests, then hey, go ahead, run him out there

772
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: week one. But there's any hesitancy to me, it's a

773
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: lot easier just let him sit those first four weeks,

774
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: observe it, and then and then drop him into friendlier

775
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: waters there at that point in time. All right, before

776
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: we go back week one, I want to give you

777
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: the front and the back here and tell me what

778
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: you think about these two games. We've got Ravens Chiefs

779
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 1: to kick it off on Thursday. Again, it's a great

780
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: slate of games, but I just want to focus on

781
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: too Ravens Chiefs and then we finish it up with

782
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: the Jets at the forty nine Ers on Monday night.

783
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: Those are two sexy matchups, man.

784
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 2: Very sexy matchups. What I love about running back the

785
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: AFC Championship game. We get an opportunity to see how

786
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: far the Ravens offense has come. Say it's kind of

787
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: laying an egg in that championship game just lost. I

788
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 2: would say their identity didn't stick to the strip, the

789
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: script when it came to how they've been winning all year,

790
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 2: just kind of threw it and threw it and threw it,

791
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 2: didn't get back to run it. Now this team has

792
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: Derrick Kenry in the back, I think, Derek King, that's the.

793
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: Story of the game. I mean, that's the story of

794
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: that game. Is what is that?

795
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: Derrick Henry is the natural anchor to the thing. You

796
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 2: can't help But when you see him, like, you know,

797
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 2: we probably should hand the ball off and give it

798
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 2: to him. He's just kind of out there pass protected.

799
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: Maybe we need to run it. I'm curious to see that.

800
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: The other part that I'm curious to see. I'm sure

801
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: you've seen the reports of the amount of weight that

802
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson has lost in the last year or two.

803
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 2: At one point he had fluffed up to like two

804
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,919
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty pounds. He's now down and they're saying

805
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: he might be two ten two o five. When he

806
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 2: was at Louisville, he was at two hundred and too

807
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: oh five. If Lamar Jackson is down and back to

808
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: running like he ran as a youngster, watch out is

809
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 2: that part of his game? DJ? Even though we kind

810
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 2: of wanted him to become more comfortable in the pocket.

811
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: That part of his game, the explosive big plays that's

812
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: been missing the last couple of years. And it always

813
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,399
Speaker 2: kind of falls a little bit for athletic quarterbacks as

814
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: they get closer to thirty, But for Lamar Jackson, who's

815
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 2: still such a dynamic athlete, I still want to be

816
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 2: able to lean into that. Not the entire year, but

817
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 2: as we get closer to the postseason. I want Lamar

818
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: Jackson to be able to do some of that stuff

819
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 2: that we talked about Pat Mahomes doing when he kind

820
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 2: of revs up the running game when they get into

821
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 2: those gotta have a situations.

822
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: And I'm curious on the other side of it with

823
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, I think the defense is gonna be really,

824
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: really good and a lot of young players who played

825
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: great last year, year one and two, now you're going

826
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: to see even better from them. I think defensive they

827
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: got a chance to be outstanding. I'm curious to see

828
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,440
Speaker 1: what this new track team that they've tried to assemble.

829
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 1: On the outside looks like, you know, Hollywood Brown, Xavier Worthy. Okay,

830
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: let's let's everybody wants to play too high show. I

831
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: get it, but we will we will commit to the

832
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: run game. But then if you do give us looks

833
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: we like, no more singles and doubles, We're gonna go

834
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: back to hitting some home runs. So I'm curious to

835
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 1: see what does that look like? And uh, and how

836
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: do they handle the pressure the Ravens are going to

837
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: send out them? So that's uh, that's gonna be fascinating.

838
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 1: And does that does that tack on more years? You know,

839
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: having quality speed? Does that tack on more years for

840
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Kelsey Buck? Does he get more room to work?

841
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 2: Maybe? Do they use a little low management strategy where

842
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 2: they really try and preserve in the first half of

843
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: the season, put them on a pinch count count and

844
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 2: you're only gonna get thirty five plays today. So we're

845
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 2: gonna make those thirty five plays count. We're gonna start

846
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,760
Speaker 2: mixing some of those guys in and out to spell

847
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,399
Speaker 2: you because we need you down the stretch and we're

848
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: making a push for the postseason. We need you to

849
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: be playing at a high level. I think that does

850
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: have an impact on the way that they use Kelsey.

851
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: The other part of it is how does this offense

852
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: continue to evolve as optimistic as we are on Zavier

853
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: Worthy being able to maybe be a Deshaun Jackson like playmaker.

854
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: What if he's not. Do we have other angles and

855
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 2: other gears that we can kind of push and get into,

856
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: whether it's the running game or the screen game or

857
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: any of those things. The first part of the season

858
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: will be very experimental for Andy Reid as he tries

859
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: to assess what his team is. Then as they kind

860
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: of tighten them screws, they'll figure it out and they'll

861
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 2: start playing the best football down the stretch.

862
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, they have always found a way to peak

863
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 1: at the right time. Let's get to the Monday nighter

864
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: Jets Niners we're looking at.

865
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 2: Well, obviously it's a revenge game for Aaron Rodgers, I

866
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 2: mean the last and we have so much hype and

867
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: stuff around Aaron Rodgers. He goes out there, plays four

868
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: players and it's all over. Are the Jets better constructed now?

869
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,759
Speaker 2: If they do lose Aaron Rodgers for a little bit

870
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: of time, do they have enough to be able to

871
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 2: do it? That's why the Tyrod Tayalen was such a

872
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 2: huge signing because it gave them a legitimate quarterback behind

873
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, not saying he's on the same level, but

874
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: it gave them a legitimate player who might be good

875
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: enough to win some games in his absence. I want

876
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: to see how this offense comes together. I mean, we

877
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: talk about it. I mean, they're like the old school

878
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 2: Boston Celtic. They're bringing everybody off the scrap heap, Tyron.

879
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: Smith, Tyron Smith, they got Morgan Moses, that got Mike Williams.

880
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean, they're just old. But can we get all

881
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: the old guys to play and avoid the injury buck?

882
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 2: What do we need to do? Can we tweak an

883
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 2: all to practice? All those things are part of the conversation.

884
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 2: And then finally, I want to see how good is

885
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: this defense. We've talked about this Jets defense being really good.

886
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: Can they single handily do it? Because if they can

887
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 2: see you handy do it, then Nathania Hackett has an

888
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 2: opportunity to slowly integrate, you know, Aaron Rodgers back into

889
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: the mix, Like, we don't have to do everything necessary

890
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 2: to do. We can just lean on the defense kind

891
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 2: of let this offense kind of find itself later in

892
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: the year. So we'll just see how this works. But

893
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 2: I'm really curious to see what this Jets defense looks

894
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: like and how they can best support this offense.

895
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and on the Jets side of things, for me,

896
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: Brice Hall another year removed from the injury with the ACL.

897
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: He was really good last year, but I think he's

898
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: going to be able to get into another gear and

899
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 1: be a big time, big time home run hitter for them,

900
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: not only running the ball, but they can use him

901
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 1: in the passing game obviously. At Christian McCaffrey on the

902
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: other side, that'll be fun to watch those two guys

903
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: do their thing. A lot of talk about Purty, It'll

904
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: be a lot to talk about Aaron Rodgers, but two

905
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 1: of the better running backs that we have in the league.

906
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: So that'll be fun to watch those guys.

907
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am looking at what they do on the outside.

908
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: When we talked about the Niners, how does Ricky Piersol

909
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: get into the most rotation? This has been a team

910
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 2: just traditioning, been a twenty one personnel team. They haven't

911
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 2: done a lot of eleven personnel stuff. Well, how are

912
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 2: we going to take advantage of the first round pick?

913
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: What is he going to be and how is he

914
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 2: factored into the equation? If they were if this pick

915
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: was a reaction to the way that the Ken City

916
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 2: Chiefs manned them up in the Super Bowl. Now you

917
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 2: have two runs Brandon Ayuk Ricky Pirosol. Does that mean

918
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 2: Deebo Samuels to odd man out or are they really

919
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 2: trying to create more opportunities to take advantage of man

920
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: to man. Can't wait to see what cal Shanahan does

921
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 2: with his unit.

922
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how much more they hand the

923
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: ball to Deebo Samuel With Ricky Piarsol, I mean there's

924
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: there's opportunities now with him and McCaffrey, you can really

925
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 1: tap into your creative side a little bit and say,

926
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: I don't need Deebo Samuel to win one on one.

927
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: I'm just going to hand him the ball.

928
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: How long is how long can we do that before

929
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 2: Diebo says, hey, hey, coach, Hey coach.

930
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: Oh that's going to happen. I mean we can make

931
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: that prediction right now. At some point that's going to happen.

932
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out how they keep their

933
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: identity of who they are with their physicality and what

934
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: they want to do. They then also playing with three

935
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: white outs. I'm struggling to figure that one out.

936
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: They were at their best when Deebo was in that role.

937
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: Then he got paid and that that part of his role,

938
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: his job description almost went away. They need to get

939
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 2: back to that because when he had the ball in

940
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 2: his hands as a tailback, it was really a problem.

941
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: Because now you have two guys that are nearly identical

942
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 2: in terms of the way that you can deploy them

943
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 2: if you put those two back in the backfield where

944
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 2: they're subbing for one because also remember this, both of

945
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 2: them had to deal with injury things. So maybe we

946
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: split the baby, split it in half, and allow y'all

947
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 2: to kind of co headline that position at the market

948
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: and do some of those other things. Now I'm really

949
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: intrigued with how we're utilizing Deebo because he gets more touches.

950
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: More touches leads to more plays, but it also helps

951
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 2: us set the tone as an ultra physical team on offense.

952
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, a Ti and Smith thirty three years old,

953
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,879
Speaker 1: don't really practice much anymore. Just show up on game

954
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: day and play Nick Bosa right out the shoot. Man,

955
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 1: here we go.

956
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: That's what we're doing. We're not gonna practice and we

957
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: take on We're gonna take on the Tasmanian double on

958
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 2: the out side. Good luck with that.

959
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,479
Speaker 1: I also don't I mean I'm gonna send I'm gonna

960
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 1: send Hassan Reddick over to that right side. Let him

961
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: do some work on on the opposite side away from

962
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 1: Trent Williams too though. So it looked nice can cut

963
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: both ways in that game.

964
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, help help look out.

965
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: All right, Hey, this has been fun. Man. We'll be

966
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: back next week. Buck anything you want to add before

967
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 1: we get out of here, No good.

968
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: Good podcast. Love to have conversations like this. It was

969
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.

970
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: Somebody did ask on on Twitter about the fish in

971
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: the pond. They wanted update from the backyard. Last year

972
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 1: the little fishing in the pond. We had some koi

973
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: fish that got eaten by some bass. We have not

974
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: introduced any more koi fish of a very thriving small

975
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: mouth bass population in the pond in the back. We

976
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: might thin that out a little bit this summer, but

977
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: stay tuned on that one. There'll be a fishing update.

978
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: We did catch a couple with some chicken nuggets as

979
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: very hungry fish. I don't know if that's what you're

980
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,879
Speaker 1: supposed to they know they went out. But I'll tell

981
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 1: you what if I'm going to go out Chick fil

982
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: a nugget in my mouth as I as I called

983
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 1: a called a career, not a bad way to go out.

984
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 2: Buck Yeah, not not not a bad way at all.

985
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: You know it was a bass like, dude, that's a nugget.

986
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: What are you doing? You really got hooked? You gave

987
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: up your life for a nugget? Well, I didn't know,

988
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: didn't lightly breaded. It's just lightly breaded. All right, that's

989
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: gonna do it for. I appreciate you guys saying with this,

990
00:46:45,840 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: We'll see next time right here on movie Fist