WEBVTT - The Cycle: Pitching Streamers and Two-Start Pitcher Competition (Ep. 1032)

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<v Speaker 1>Hello everybody, Welcome into the cycle, Part three of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Ryan Warmley, joined as I have been all week

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<v Speaker 1>by Kelly Kirby. Kelly, thanks for hopping on in place

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<v Speaker 1>of Mike Mayer. Definitely upping the war on this week's show.

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<v Speaker 1>For these weeks episodes, all three parts of them you

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<v Speaker 1>joined us for, we did some of your lessons learned

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<v Speaker 1>in part one, we went through some buys and sells

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<v Speaker 1>and waiver pickups from you. In part two, now we

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<v Speaker 1>are talking some pitching streamers the way we usually do

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<v Speaker 1>this as Mayor kind of runs through somewhat using our

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<v Speaker 1>FP streamer tool, which you can find Fantasypros dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>picking some of his favorite streamers for each day of

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<v Speaker 1>the week. Fridays are always really tough. We'll see what

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<v Speaker 1>you came up with on Friday for whatever reason. There's

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<v Speaker 1>never good good streamers those days, and and we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>what we think about these streamers. So we've got one

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<v Speaker 1>for every day of the week. Kick us off with

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<v Speaker 1>Monday of next week.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So there's a theme to you know, doing streamers,

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<v Speaker 2>which is find find the bad teams and hit them up,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter what the pitcher has recently been doing so

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<v Speaker 2>on Monday, going with Max Meyer versus Colorado, So anytime

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<v Speaker 2>I can get to Marlin at home and well, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it doesn't even matter if it's Colorado's offense, like

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<v Speaker 2>even just give it to me. Meyer has been a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a wild card lately, Like he is, he

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<v Speaker 2>has not looked sharp.

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<v Speaker 3>That's putting here kindly, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He has not looked sharp whatsoever. But I also, given

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<v Speaker 2>what was out there on Monday, I think he was

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<v Speaker 2>just the best option because it's the worst offense. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take him Monday. I have him in

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of leagues. I'm giving him like one more

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<v Speaker 2>week basically, like if he if he can't get through

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<v Speaker 2>the Colorado starting, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>So in his last six starts, his era on the

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<v Speaker 1>season has gone from two ten to four fifty three.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it's just been really bad yep as of

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<v Speaker 1>late for him, and I have started him in pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much all of those starts been in my rotation.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, you felt so good right and then and

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<v Speaker 2>now it's just like, okay, well that was that was

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<v Speaker 2>a blip. That was a blip, and then now it's like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>is that.

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<v Speaker 1>A Blipper, you know for some of the other ones,

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<v Speaker 1>like at least he was still getting you strikeouts, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was also giving up five earned runs. This week

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<v Speaker 1>against the Padres, he had four earned runs allowed in

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<v Speaker 1>just three and a third innings and no strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 3>That was alarming.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was very alarming.

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<v Speaker 3>And his second start this month with no strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I said something on leading off where I was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, I'm like, I can deal with a blow

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<v Speaker 2>up start here and there, but I can't abide no strikeouts.

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<v Speaker 1>How many pitchers in baseball in the same like six

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<v Speaker 1>week span have a start with fourteen strikeouts and a

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<v Speaker 1>start with zero.

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<v Speaker 2>If I was faster on stad head, I would look

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<v Speaker 2>that up. But I can't fathom that it is. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't fathom it's many.

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<v Speaker 3>So here's the Max Meyer on Monday. Who you got next?

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<v Speaker 4>Next?

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<v Speaker 2>I've got Jackson job at the White Soxes. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>Detroit Tiger. He's not been overly impressive.

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<v Speaker 4>I was gonna look that up really quick. But he

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<v Speaker 4>also gets.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, the other worst team in baseball, So I

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<v Speaker 2>think that I have no problem kind of running him

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<v Speaker 2>out there and seeing what happens. Yeah, he's got a

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<v Speaker 2>four to twenty two era and a one four nine

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<v Speaker 2>whip on the year, but sometimes facing the white soxes

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<v Speaker 2>the cure than any picture needs. So I'm as far

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<v Speaker 2>as streamers go, I think he's a good option and

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<v Speaker 2>could possibly pick up the win, which is another thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to chase wins, but you want to

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<v Speaker 2>give yourself a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>I yeah, I agree on Joe. Sorry, I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>let you just keep running through.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm sorry. I don't know how Mayor does it,

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<v Speaker 4>so I can keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you're good.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to interrupt him when I want to, but

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise I just let him cook in this section.

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<v Speaker 4>Gotcha, Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, I don't you want to talk more

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<v Speaker 2>about job so done? Wednesday, I've got Miles Mikolas versus

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City. I think Kansas City is a very targetable offense.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know what what Mikolas michaelas yeah, is doing,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, he's kind of just hanging in there

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<v Speaker 2>doing little things. And again like with Kansas City, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's at home and Saint Louis has

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<v Speaker 2>looked really good, so you're back to the win situation.

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<v Speaker 2>He tends to go deep in games, so I am

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<v Speaker 2>fine rolling him against the Royals on Wednesday. Thursday was

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<v Speaker 2>the mess this week. I didn't like a lot of options.

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<v Speaker 2>So Tony Gonsolin has, you know, come back down to earth.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets the Mets at home. The Mets right now

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<v Speaker 2>are they seem like a little bit of a mess,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Soto, They're kind of Soto and the door

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone's sort of underperforming. The rest of the lineup

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<v Speaker 2>needs to kick it into gear. So I am not

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<v Speaker 2>a fan of this, but if I had to dream someone,

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<v Speaker 2>I would go Gonsolin against the Mets at home. So

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<v Speaker 2>you do without what you will, but please don't blame

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<v Speaker 2>me if he blows up. Okay, Friday was was a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit easier. Zach Lyttel versus Miami. The only problem

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<v Speaker 2>is it's in Tampa's little, you know, ballpark, so if

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<v Speaker 2>the wind's blown out, I wouldn't do this. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think Miami's again another offense right that You're just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, I'll target this, see what happens. And Littel's

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<v Speaker 2>been He's been all right depending on who he's facing,

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<v Speaker 2>so I see him as a pretty strong streamer. Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got the Cubs are visiting Detroit and Jamison Tyne

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<v Speaker 2>versus the Tigers again not my favorite. Like the part

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<v Speaker 2>of the problem with the streamers is like you're just

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<v Speaker 2>throwing a dart and hoping that the matchup works out

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<v Speaker 2>in your favor. But tywone's been okay, they've late, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not as.

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<v Speaker 4>Scared of that. I was just gonna look up.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I thought I wrote it down, but yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's got a three eight six ERA, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's only got a one o three whip, so he

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<v Speaker 2>is pretty good on the ratios, and the Tigers have

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<v Speaker 2>a great offense. But it's also like that ballpark is

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<v Speaker 2>pretty friendly to pitchers, so I would I would roll

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<v Speaker 2>with him.

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<v Speaker 1>And then on side, I'll interrupt there and say that

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Brown the last time I streamed a streamed it

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<v Speaker 1>for two starts last week very nearly lost me the week.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm a little burned by the Cubs pitching streaming options.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, yeah, I would go with the veteran

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<v Speaker 2>on this one versus Yeah, I dropped him. I dropped

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<v Speaker 2>Brown in our league. And then like he started off

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<v Speaker 2>that first start with like he like was on fire,

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<v Speaker 2>struck out like three or four guys in the first

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<v Speaker 2>two innings and then blew up because at that point

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<v Speaker 2>I was just like, right, I just can't make any

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<v Speaker 2>correct decisions. But then I felt better about it later

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<v Speaker 2>and then on Sunday, this one, you know, is the

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<v Speaker 2>battle of ineptitude. But I like Shane Smith for the

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<v Speaker 2>for the White Sox, and he's facing the Royals home,

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<v Speaker 2>so same rules. I wouldn't stream him if it's if

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<v Speaker 2>the wind is blowing out too hard, if they call

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<v Speaker 2>it kegle own, I absolutely would probably hold off. But

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<v Speaker 2>I like Shane Smith as a pitcher in general, so

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<v Speaker 2>that is my streaming week.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you like Shane Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>You picked him for me in my stead for our

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<v Speaker 1>two start picture competition a few weeks ago, Shane Smith

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<v Speaker 1>against Zach Wheeler.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would have thought Mayor would win that week?

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<v Speaker 4>Did he actually make both his starts?

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<v Speaker 3>I think he did.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he combined in our in our scoring format

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<v Speaker 1>in the league that we're in that I use just

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<v Speaker 1>to as a kind of catch. If these points are

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<v Speaker 1>very different, then it's easy to track, as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>when they're really close and you kind of get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>Who actually won this week? But in that week. In

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<v Speaker 1>his two starts, he combined for fifteen point eight points. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and Zach Wheeler combined for forty six point five points.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That was kind of one of those I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to burn a good picture for you, so it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just throw this one out there and you can.

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<v Speaker 4>You can.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you made a better pick for Mayor this

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<v Speaker 1>week than you did with Shane Smith for me, So

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<v Speaker 1>I am taking that personally.

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<v Speaker 2>I will just say, well, or you could see it

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<v Speaker 2>as I was gonna, I wanted to pick Wheeler, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so that was a little bit of a problem the

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<v Speaker 2>first time. But yeah, I know, I yeah for my competition,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to give may Or anything. But

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Ryan for the Twins, like I've been talking about,

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<v Speaker 2>he's looked fantastic lately. I'm not super confident, so I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I might still screw Mayor over here, but he gets

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<v Speaker 2>the Athletics in Sacramento and then he gets to host

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<v Speaker 2>the Blue Jays, so I feel like that's a the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's always a little dangerous when with the

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<v Speaker 2>Athletics in that ballpark, but he's been on a roll

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<v Speaker 2>enough that I feel like he's a good to start pitcher.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, I went for Carlos Rodan, not somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of, but he's been pitching really

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<v Speaker 1>well as of late, and obviously, like you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>strikeout potential with him as always there, you know, pitching

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<v Speaker 1>for a good team, gets some wins. He gets home

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<v Speaker 1>against the Guardians and home against the currently struggling Red Sox.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see maybe if they call up Anthony that will

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<v Speaker 1>look a little bit different. But he's also somebody that,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, fair or not, it's just hard for

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<v Speaker 1>me to not think of him as like an injury risk,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I kind of want to use him early.

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<v Speaker 1>There were a couple of options this week. So some

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<v Speaker 1>weeks we've had it's been really tough. The last two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks we've actually both kind of had a lot of options.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm annoyed because I finally went to Grom last week

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been so anti de Gram all year, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had, you know, the first start this week was

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<v Speaker 1>not his best, So we'll see how how that finishes up.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, so the last completed week I forgot

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<v Speaker 1>to update people on was Mayor had Franbur Valdez. He

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<v Speaker 1>got thirty five point eight points. I had Trink Scooball

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<v Speaker 1>who had his insane thirteen strikeout Maddox, which that alone,

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<v Speaker 1>like I didn't even need to look at the other

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<v Speaker 1>outing like that was a win for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you get thirteen strikeouts and Amatox.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Best start of the season by any picture, Like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just can't short of a no hitter.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine a picture having a better start than that.

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<v Speaker 1>So that would very you know, I had to burn

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<v Speaker 1>Schooble to get it. But if you're going to use him,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the type of start you want to you want

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of him. So Mayor is currently head

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<v Speaker 1>in the standings through seven completed weeks four to three.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see, Uh, we'll see if I can start to

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<v Speaker 1>catch up here. We kind of did the reverse last year.

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<v Speaker 1>I used a lot of the good pictures early and

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<v Speaker 1>he saved him. This year it's been kind of the

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<v Speaker 1>opposite approach. So well, Uh, I mean I've used some

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<v Speaker 1>good ones, right, Like I've used Tunor Brown already, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael King.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not like I'm using Shane Smith every week.

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<v Speaker 4>But I just wanted to get creative.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen I was.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to pick Hunter Green the next week, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was a week he was hurt, so I had

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<v Speaker 1>to pivot to Shane Boz. So I went Shane's back

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<v Speaker 1>to back week, and let me tell you, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>win either.

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<v Speaker 4>That doesn't that doesn't usually work out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, No, No, let's wrap up with some weekend excitement here.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote down just a few things. There wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of highlights. Obviously Yankees Dodgers is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the big series, as it always is, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>with both teams being good, that's obviously a huge one.

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<v Speaker 1>Garret Crochet versus Spenser Strider could be a really fun

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<v Speaker 1>pitching duel. And then I wrote down, like, how does

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<v Speaker 1>Scooball follow up his thirteen strikeout Maddox again, like it

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<v Speaker 1>was the most strikeouts in amatics ever. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>for those who just happened to not know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you're listening to the show you probably know. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't, a Maddox is a complete game with

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<v Speaker 1>under one hundred pitches. Yeah, and Scooball did that with

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen strikeouts, which is the most ever in a Maddox

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<v Speaker 1>so extremely impressive. I'm very excited to see how he

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<v Speaker 1>follows that up. I only have him in one league

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<v Speaker 1>this year. I wish I had been more, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>just that dude's so good at pitching.

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<v Speaker 4>Is so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I have him in my keeper league. I think, I

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<v Speaker 2>think I have him. Like it's single digit amount of money,

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<v Speaker 2>so I mean it goes off every year, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I at this point, I can have him probably for

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<v Speaker 2>the next Like I have, we have.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a deep it's not technically dynasty, but it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you have five minor league spots and you keep like

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen a year. So it's like a very very deep

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<v Speaker 1>keeper league with a minor league element. And one guy

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<v Speaker 1>in the league has Scooble for a dollar. It will

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<v Speaker 1>go up eventually, but right now he has Schoble for

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<v Speaker 1>a dollar, and I have Bobby Wit Junior for a dollar,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're always like arguing who has the better, like

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<v Speaker 1>best asset in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fantastic, yeah for me. This weekend, I also am

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<v Speaker 2>interested in the Yankees Dodgers. The Cubs host the Reds.

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<v Speaker 2>They got into it a little bit last week when

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<v Speaker 2>they visited Cincinnati. Ian Hap is a Reds Killer, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking forward to that right now. I'm an oilers

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<v Speaker 2>fan as well, so I'm a little into the hockey playoffs.

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<v Speaker 2>I do live stream Tuesdays and Fridays for betting on

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<v Speaker 2>that they could wrap it up tonight and get ready

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<v Speaker 2>for the Stanley Cup finals, and then I'm also in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of the WNBA prop bet cheat sheets, so my

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<v Speaker 2>attention is split. But I'm enjoying that season as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's kind of the weekend and I'll probably

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<v Speaker 2>go out on a pontoon ride if we're getting real specific.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, I love that Mayor likes seeing I usually

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<v Speaker 1>don't up, but Maryor likes to include like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>real life, like you know, whatever fun stuff is going

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<v Speaker 1>on too, so I encourage that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll go ahead and wrap up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you again for filling in, not only for Mary

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<v Speaker 1>this week, but for me next week. We'll be getting

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Kelly Kirby next couple of weeks here,

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<v Speaker 1>but for Kelly and for Mayor, I suppose I'm ryding warmly.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks everybody for tuning in. If you missed the earlier parts,

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