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Speaker 1: Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome to the Guilty Other

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Speaker 1: Charge Podcast presented by the Chargers Podcast Network. My name

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Speaker 1: is Stephen and I am the host as always and

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Speaker 1: joining me as my guy Tyler. Tyler, what's up man?

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Speaker 1: How are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: I'm sick and the Chargers are zero and two. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if those things are connected, but I'll make

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Speaker 2: it through it. I have my Mike Williams two point

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Speaker 2: conversion and narrowhead mug, so hopefully he can get me

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Speaker 2: through it. Steven, how are you nice?

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Speaker 1: I love the mug. Doing good. Work's going great. You know,

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Speaker 1: the podcast is doing well. We hit nine thousand subscribers

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Speaker 1: on our own channel, so go check us out there.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate any support there is obviously supporting us here on

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Speaker 1: this channel too. So today, obviously coming off of the

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Speaker 1: Chargers loss at Tennessee, we are going to do a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a different way to discuss this episode.

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Speaker 1: We're going to do a segment called five Truths where

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Speaker 1: Tyler and I are going to look at some takes

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Speaker 1: of ours that we have that are backed up by

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Speaker 1: the film and the data. Having you know, a couple

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Speaker 1: of days to reflect back on this matchup that we

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Speaker 1: saw on Sunday in Nashville and kind of projecting where

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Speaker 1: this team can go from here. We're also going to

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Speaker 1: do our game balls as we do every single week.

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Speaker 1: Like I said previously, we are you know, there's a

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Speaker 1: charitable aspect to the game ball segment, so we want

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Speaker 1: to make sure we maintain that segment all throughout the year,

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Speaker 1: even if the Chargers lose. And then we are going

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Speaker 1: to talk briefly about some things that the Chargers need

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Speaker 1: to change outside of the obvious heading into their matchup

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Speaker 1: this week with the Minnesota Viking. So that being said,

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Speaker 1: will dive in first and foremost. Tyler and I are

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Speaker 1: fans of the team, just like you guys are. We

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Speaker 1: have this platform and are very grateful for it, but

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Speaker 1: the takes that we share on the show are not

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Speaker 1: always reflective of those within the organization. They have given

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Speaker 1: us this platform and we're very excited to have it.

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Speaker 1: But these opinions that we share today are hours and

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Speaker 1: hours alone, not that of the organization. So Tyler, let's

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Speaker 1: dive in here. Five truths. That's the way that we're

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Speaker 1: framing the episode today. What truth should we start with?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, okay, well, you asked me to start last week

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Speaker 2: and I started negative, and I'll do it sort of again.

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Speaker 2: But maybe there's some hope for this, because there can

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Speaker 2: be some change. My truth is this, the Chargers are

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Speaker 2: mixing and matching their defensive backs, They're rotating snaps, and

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Speaker 2: they have a high complexity of coverages, and they're also

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Speaker 2: currently one of the worst coverage units in the league.

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Speaker 2: That is a truth. And I don't want to jump

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Speaker 2: into causation because it's so early, it's only been two weeks,

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Speaker 2: but I do want to discuss the relationship, especially diving

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Speaker 2: into more of this between this complexity and then the outcomes.

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Speaker 2: So there's this score index called it an entropy, which,

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Speaker 2: if you know Argin from our channel, he's been using

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Speaker 2: that before to describe how Drwyn James is used in

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Speaker 2: how unpredictable the coverage is based on a variety of

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Speaker 2: roles and their usages. The Chargers right now, granted it's

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Speaker 2: fifth in Shannon entropy through two weeks, meaning that they

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Speaker 2: mix up their coverages quite a bit. However, they are

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Speaker 2: they're rotating five corners. We've seen that, and we saw

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Speaker 2: it a lot against Tennessee. You get two drives, you

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Speaker 2: but now you're playing primarily on the outside. Brandon Stealey

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Speaker 2: it come down to three corners trying to fight for

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Speaker 2: some of that complexity is just because J. C. Jackson

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Speaker 2: But the result has been almost twenty explosive passing plays

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Speaker 2: right technique and leverage as Sante Samuel Junior should have

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Speaker 2: And you're starting to see these things kind of build

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Speaker 2: you lose your rhythm. That's the quote from Michael Davis. So,

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Speaker 2: you know, teaching like coaching, it's about giving your students,

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Speaker 2: be the best versions of themselves, not just hand them

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Speaker 2: a really complex textbook or scheme or defense and hope

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Speaker 2: a noticeable way. Whether it's supposed to work or not.

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Speaker 2: Maybe it's the greatest scheme and idea of all time,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but right now, given the numbers, given

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Speaker 2: And right now, according to Argent, again I really a

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Speaker 2: needs to change, and it might just be everything settles down,

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Speaker 2: things are less complex, you name it, but it has

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Speaker 2: to change because you have justin Jefferson DeVante Adams, Ceedee, Lamb,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't get any easier this week. Like you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: And I think some of that is the coaching points

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they will. We saw towards the

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Speaker 2: but that Dolphins game, it was about scheme, but it

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Speaker 2: I think they will improve, and yeah, they do have

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Speaker 2: to improve. So that's where we're at right now. But

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Speaker 2: I do think this can get better over the course

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Speaker 2: of the season, or at minimum it just has to,

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Speaker 2: and I hope it does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's totally fair. All right, Our second

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Speaker 1: truth of the day, on a more positive side, mister

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Speaker 1: two Lee twet Polo to welcome to the NFL. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to announcing yourself to this stage. It was his first

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Speaker 1: career start this week, and Man was an impressive on tape.

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Speaker 1: The numbers are also very, very impressive. You can bring

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Speaker 2: Do I expect that to hold, not necessarily? But who

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Speaker 2: You can't just do this if you don't take the

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Speaker 2: I mean, you go against Rashaun Slater every day, who's

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Speaker 1: Pretty pretty impressive. You look at his rankings amongst rookie

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Speaker 2: Like we're watching some special football from a player that,

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Speaker 1: Man, it's such a relief watching him play. And like

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Speaker 1: and then you know, the opposing rusher just kind of

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00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: falls down. Rashaan does it and just like the most

432
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,639
Speaker 1: like quietly, like disrespectful way possible, Like he just like

433
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 1: seits them. Then he's like, okay, here you go, Like

434
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: that was good enough, good try. You look at the

435
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: numbers perspective, like you mentioned, just the single pressure ESPN

436
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: has him as the fourth highest run block win rate

437
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: offensive tackle in the league right now. They don't have

438
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Speaker 1: him super high on the pass blocking metric, which I

439
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: don't really understand. But he's he's playing dominant football, like

440
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's not just like he's an efficient pass protector,

441
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,199
Speaker 1: Like he's moving folks in the run game too. So

442
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you shouted him out because it's just been

443
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: so much fun having him back. And I think that,

444
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 1: you know, just similar to like what two Ley's giving

445
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 1: the pass rush, Rashaan just raises the floor of everybody

446
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 1: around him because he just takes that much pressure off

447
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 1: of the left side of the offense.

448
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah. Love love having him back. Stephen, what is your

449
00:22:58,640 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 2: next truth?

450
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:05,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, my next truth is that Chargers fans need to

451
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 1: be patient with Quentin Johnston and his usage. I think

452
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: that this is a player who rightfully so receives a

453
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 1: lot of hype. I think we loved what we saw

454
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Speaker 1: in training camp. The usage, to me, needs to increase

455
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: because you watch Quenton Johnson on tape and he is

456
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 1: getting open, he is taking advantage of his opportunities and

457
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 1: this is both a Kellen Moore thing and a Justin

458
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 1: Herbert thing. Both of those two need to figure out

459
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: a way to use Quinton Johnson more because his skill

460
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 1: set is far too valuable to be getting ten snaps

461
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: and one target or two targets against the Tennessee Titan

462
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: secondary that was pretty banged up. There was a couple

463
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Speaker 1: plays where you see just kind of the the kind

464
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Speaker 1: of the magnitude of Quentin Johnson and what he can provide.

465
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: You know. One of them was Keenan Allen's cover two

466
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,439
Speaker 1: hole shot that Justin Herbert hit on a thirty yard pass.

467
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 1: Quentin Johnson was running a post and the safety that

468
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,960
Speaker 1: was playing that side of the field absolutely just went

469
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: like he just flew after Quentin because that's where he

470
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Speaker 1: probably thought the ball was going. He's the faster, more

471
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Speaker 1: explosive threat, and Keening was wide open because of it.

472
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Speaker 1: So just the gravity of Quenton that he can provide

473
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Speaker 1: this offense, it's unlike any other receiver that they have

474
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Speaker 1: right now. There was another instance where Justin Herbert threw

475
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Speaker 1: a jump ball to Mike Williams on the left side,

476
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Speaker 1: but if he had just kind of stayed to the

477
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Speaker 1: right a little bit. Quinton Johnson was open on a

478
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: skinny post route. Can he beat the slot receipt or

479
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: the slot corner very cleanly off the line and he

480
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: stretched him vertically and he was open. It could have

481
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Speaker 1: been a big play. Granted, Mike Williams could have been

482
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Speaker 1: a big play as well, But Quentin Johnson is getting open.

483
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Speaker 1: And the patience for me comes that that getting open

484
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 1: is going to continue happening and that will eventually translate

485
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Speaker 1: to targets and more snaps and you know, a player

486
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: that eventually we're going to be very very happy with

487
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 1: his rookie season. So I understand, you know, the frustration

488
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 1: of the usage. I think that does need to increase,

489
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Speaker 1: but just be patient. I think good things are coming

490
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Speaker 1: for Quentin Johnson because he is getting open on tape. Yeah.

491
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Speaker 2: I think we all need to be patient with Quentin Johnson.

492
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Speaker 2: That was sort of the theme before training camp, and

493
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 2: then we hyped things up and we see the big

494
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 2: plays and whatnot, but overall, patients in this particular room

495
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 2: is key. With that said, I do believe, and you've

496
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: talked about this, like fans have a right to be

497
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 2: to raise their eyebrows and to be a bit frustrated

498
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: and wonder what's going on with the usage, because you know,

499
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Speaker 2: I was watching the game against the Titans. It was

500
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Speaker 2: kind of a passive thought for me until I asked Argent, Hey,

501
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 2: how many how many snaps did Darius Davis play compared

502
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,760
Speaker 2: to Quentin Johnson, And the difference was Darius Davis played

503
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Speaker 2: eleven and Quentin played ten. And I understand the slow

504
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: ramp up idea for Quentin Johnston. Again, in this offense,

505
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: there's you know, other guys, other twenty million dollar receivers.

506
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 2: It's not like Keenan Allen hasn't been dominating, you know.

507
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: It's not like, oh, we should just stop feeding Keenan

508
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 2: al No, he's been great. You know, Mike Williams had

509
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: a really good game. But I'm just surprised by how

510
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: the ramp up has accelerated for Darius Davis and not

511
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: so much for Quentin Johnston. Who look, I think between

512
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 2: yick you and I, he was maybe wide receiver four

513
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 2: or five, maybe three at best, I don't know, No

514
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Speaker 2: matter what you thought of him, wide receiver one, wide

515
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: receiver ten. There was one very obvious thing about Quentin

516
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Speaker 2: Johnston that we talked about as soon as they drafted

517
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Speaker 2: him on this channel, we brought up the graph he

518
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: is in a completely different planet compared to his peers

519
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 2: in the class when it comes to yak and mistackles forced,

520
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: and so I just naturally assumed. I think we all

521
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: assumed that no matter what, even if Mike Williams is

522
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,360
Speaker 2: the big play guy down the field and Keenan Allen

523
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 2: runs routes or whatever, whatever, we thought about those receivers

524
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 2: and their roles in this offense. I think we all

525
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: thought that Quentin Johnston would be more involved in just

526
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,120
Speaker 2: a few plays a game that were designed to get

527
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Speaker 2: the ball in his hands and get him going, and

528
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 2: instead we really haven't seen that just yet. And I

529
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: thought that Daris Davis should not have a role. I

530
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: think what he's doing and the things he's showing is

531
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 2: a little bit of gadgety work, especially that fourth down

532
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 2: play that's great. I'm just surprised I'm not seeing anything

533
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,120
Speaker 2: as much from Quentin Johnson, and by extension of that,

534
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 2: Isaiah Spiller, a player that I am. I'm not really

535
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: sure what happened in the off season preseason, because I

536
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: think he averaged four and a half yards per Kerry,

537
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: there's a seventy yard or somewhere that doesn't count by

538
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Speaker 2: all reports, and from what we've seen, he was RB

539
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: two B in camp to the point where we were wondering, hey,

540
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: is he like gonna start over Kelly at some point?

541
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: And then they're just kind of not using him. And

542
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: they did run him once, but it was for three yards,

543
00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: but they've opted to go with Elijah Dotson. So those

544
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 2: two players who are your highest drafted skill position players

545
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 2: in each of the last two drafts, those guys not

546
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: being used a ton right now is a bit strange.

547
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,959
Speaker 2: We'll see, it's so early. Things can change, you know.

548
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 2: This time last year it was a ton of like

549
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: Sony Michelle, and then he wasn't on the team after that,

550
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,199
Speaker 2: so you know, like so much can change by the

551
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 2: bye reevaluations, et cetera. Totally, it's just been a surprise

552
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: to see the usage be so low, and then I

553
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: get fan frustration because you're watching the two players that

554
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 2: were taken after him being used a lot more. Granted

555
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: in different situations, there is no set of keenan On

556
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 2: and Mike Williams ahead of those guys, and sort of

557
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 2: by extension also Austin Eckler, and so I hope those

558
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: guys can get involved. And I kind of want to

559
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: like round into another truth here, which is that the Chargers,

560
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 2: they've scored twenty nine points per game, and they've been

561
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: way better than I expected. You give me thirty four,

562
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Speaker 2: you give me twenty seven, whatever it was, twenty four,

563
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 2: you're feeling pretty good, right, twenty nine points per game,

564
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 2: you're feeling pretty good. But they really collapse in those

565
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 2: late moments to close out games. And it's not one player,

566
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: it's not just the coordinator, it's not just you know whatever,

567
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 2: it's just everything. Something goes wrong every time, and they

568
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 2: don't quite put it together in the end. And I

569
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: don't know if it's because the defense expects them to

570
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: be passing and therefore they can pin their ears back

571
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: and just go so the offense can't be as balanced

572
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: or what. But right now they're not doing so hot

573
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: at the end to close out games. So against Miami

574
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: there was the sack, intentional grounding, another sack, you know,

575
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 2: sacks in two seconds in one point eight seconds to

576
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: close things out in the fourth quarter. Against Tennessee, really

577
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: promising start to that drive, but things stall. You get

578
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 2: to the twenty five, you have seventy five seconds, you

579
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 2: have three timeouts, you only run five plays and kick

580
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: a field goal. You take another sack on third down,

581
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 2: and then in overtime you know there was the a

582
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: deep shot to the right sideline to put the ball

583
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: in Harm's way. I think the only turnover worthy play

584
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 2: that Justin Herbert's had all year. And then the ball

585
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: will snapped on third down, and not everyone was ready,

586
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: so that has to get cleaned up, and I think

587
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: trying to wrap things back around here, I feel like

588
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson and Isaiah Spiller are two guys that you

589
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: could lean on in those moments to help your offense

590
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 2: out just a bit. What if you use Isaiah Spiller,

591
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: who the college tapees doing a bit of the heavy

592
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: work here for me, But I think he's a good

593
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,520
Speaker 2: receiving back and someone that I've seen them use in

594
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: some of these situations, in two minute situations to try

595
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: to move the ball. I think you could use him

596
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 2: in those situations, especially if Austin Eckler is out. I

597
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: think you could use Quintin Johnson for the Loyac play

598
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: here and there if you have a lot of time

599
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: I feel like you could use him in those situations.

600
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be these these three deep shots.

601
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 2: Now Brandon Staley said they didn't call three deep shots

602
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: on those plays. It's just what ended up happening. But

603
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: I feel like you could find a way to incorporate

604
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: both of those guys. So the end of the game

605
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: situations haven't been rate Unfortunately, it reflects the poorest on

606
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert unfairly, so, I think, because again they'll score

607
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: thirty something points and just because they didn't score thirty seven,

608
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: Oh he's bummer, What a loser, what a failure like

609
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 2: But no, that's not it at all. That's just you know,

610
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: other fans. But unfortunately, in those situations, the line, the coordinator,

611
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: the players, Herbert not everything works together perfectly, and so

612
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: it reflects the porest against him because all the spotlights

613
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: on him, and so they need to figure that out.

614
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think when you zoom out on the Kellen

615
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 1: Moore offense and the Kellen Moore experience, like I think

616
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: ninety percent of it, you feel really really good about.

617
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: You know, this is a team that ran for two

618
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yards and had you know, one of

619
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: the most historically efficient run games in NFL history. In

620
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: Week one, Justin Herbert had an average depth of the

621
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: target of eleven point one yards against the Tinnessee Titans.

622
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: So like Kellen Moore is doing the thing like he's

623
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 1: doing what we wanted him to do in terms of

624
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: the run game. In terms of allowing this offense to

625
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: be more vertical, there are definitely some things that you

626
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: want to see be cleaned up as an operation, you know,

627
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: in personnel usage, like we talked about with Quentin Johnston.

628
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: I think some of it is just kind of like

629
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,959
Speaker 1: figuring things out as an offense, Like we saw some

630
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: of this in the first year of the Joe Lombardi

631
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: offense where they had all of those like illegal shift

632
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: penalties that cost the Chargers basically the Cowboys game where

633
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: they had like four of them. You know, I think

634
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: some of the things that are happening are just the

635
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: fact that this is a new offense and there's some

636
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: little details that are new. You know, on that last

637
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: drive in regulation where the Chargers had the chance to

638
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: go down and win the game, there was a stunt

639
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: by the Tennessee Titans up front which resulted in a

640
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: Harold Andry sack. Where in the future Trey Pipkins and

641
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: Jamari Salier are going to be able to handle that

642
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: better because they'll have all of these reps and chemistry

643
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 1: and communication. But this was their second game together, and

644
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, Trey Pipkins, I think, thought that Jamari was

645
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: going to slide over in time, and that didn't happen,

646
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: and Harold Landry went right through and sacked Justin Herbert

647
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: drive over field will attempt instead of a potential touchdown.

648
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: And then you look at the overtime sequence where whatever

649
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: was communicated was not communicated effectively to everybody and players

650
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: were lined up in the wrong spots and Justin Herbert

651
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: is trying to get everybody lined up in the correct spots,

652
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: and then the play clock is running down and then

653
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: core Lindsay just has to snap the ball or they

654
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: get a penalty. So just things like that, like operationally,

655
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: like I expect to continue to improve. Excuse me when

656
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: you zoom out. Like I mentioned, this is an offense that,

657
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: like you mentioned, is averaging twenty nine points per game.

658
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: It's currently top five in DVOA EPA per play, and

659
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: this is a very efficient and effective offense. I think

660
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore From a game plan perspective, you know, run

661
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: heavy against the Dolphins, pass heavy against the Titans makes sense.

662
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: And I think going forward the things that we are

663
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: frustrated by will continue to improve because I think Keln

664
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: Moore is just too smart to let things like this

665
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: keep the Chargers offense down for the whole season. Yeah.

666
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 2: No, I do expect it to improve. We saw from

667
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 2: the jump the run game it exists, it works. Now

668
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: Ekler being back would be great. But okay, so from

669
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 2: that first game, what do we want to see? Some

670
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 2: different things from the passing offense? And I think that improved.

671
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 2: I think even just saw just by getting Mike Williams

672
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: more involved. You know, it's very much the Keenan Allen

673
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: Show in week one. They got Mike Williams a lot

674
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 2: more involved in week two. So I think this offense

675
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: will continue to evolve. And look, we said beforehand, playing

676
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: the Titans is not easy. They're going to drag you

677
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 2: into a game where you make mistakes, you look bad.

678
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 2: The offensive line is going to struggle in moments, so

679
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 2: it's no surprise that there were some issues. I think

680
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: the Vikings is a really good team to get next

681
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: in terms of the defense. So I think things should

682
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: look better against the against the Vikings than they were

683
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: against the Titans. But again, this offense, it's their second

684
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: time playing together. They didn't really to do this at all.

685
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 2: They certainly didn't in the preseason. And so it'll improve.

686
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 2: And like you said that the communication things, these guys

687
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: are all pros. They'll figure it out. I'm not worried

688
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 2: about this offensive line figuring out those protection things or

689
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: the offense being more explosive or whatever it is. I

690
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: think they'll improve.

691
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree. All right, Tyler, let's wrap

692
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: this conversation up. Who is your game ball player of

693
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: the week two for the Chargers.

694
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the game ball player of the week for me

695
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 2: for week two is going to be Kenneth Murray, a

696
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: player who you know a very let's say, inconsistent career

697
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 2: with the Los Angeles Chargers, And when a lot of

698
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: fans heard that he was going to be the guy

699
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: calling plays, the green dot guy in this defense, there

700
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: was a lot of apprehension and some more than apprehension,

701
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 2: I'll say that much among some fans, and Kenneth Murray

702
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 2: played an excellent game. Brandon Staley said, it's the best

703
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 2: game since he's been there as the coach. I think

704
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 2: it's probably his best game since the Patriots game way

705
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: back when in his rookie season. And it was the

706
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: tune of ten total tackles, five solo, one sack, two

707
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: tackles for a loss, and a quarterback hit. Granted, that's

708
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: one of the easiest sacks Kenneth Murray's ever going to have,

709
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: but hey, you got to make the plays, right. You

710
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 2: do have to make the plays, yea, And he did.

711
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: It was a very very good game, not just in

712
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 2: terms of racking up the stats, but seeing things and

713
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 2: working downhill. This was a very very very very good

714
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 2: game by any standards. In a great game for Kenneth Murray,

715
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: especially considering the situation he was placed in as being

716
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: the guy, the green Dot guy, and so kudos to

717
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 2: him for having a really really solid game against a

718
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: very very difficult running back corps.

719
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are a couple of really high level collisions

720
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: between him and Derrick Henry on Sunday. It was a

721
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: lot of fun to watch. Just felt like he played

722
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,399
Speaker 1: more confident, you know. I felt like he was able

723
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: to trigger downhill faster and get to those launch points

724
00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: if he will at a higher rate. So I think

725
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: that's a great call considering, you know, the way that

726
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: people were talking about on social media. Kenneth Murray definitely

727
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: exceeded expectations but played a very clean game and had

728
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: some really high level moments in that one, So I

729
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: think that's a good one. Mine has to be two Ley.

730
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: To me, it was the most impactful performance of the day,

731
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: what he was able to do against the run, what

732
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: he's able to do as a pass rusher, as a

733
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: designed blitzer, freeing up the other edge rushers. It was

734
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: just a ton of fun to watch and super encouraging

735
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: for where he's at. So Tuley and Kenneth surprisingly too

736
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 1: defensive players getting the game ball this week, But I

737
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: think you could give an on le mention shout out

738
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: to Keenan Allens as well, who as of right now,

739
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen is averaging the highest death of target of

740
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,760
Speaker 1: his career since his rookie season and his highest yards

741
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: per route run since twenty seventeen. So Keenan Allen so

742
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,760
Speaker 1: got a lot of juice left, still a really good player,

743
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 1: and I love the way that Killmore is using him

744
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: so far.

745
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's interesting. All to talk about. I was looking

746
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: at this his usage more on the outst is the slot.

747
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: It's like a three or four percent difference compared to

748
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: the last couple of seasons. But he's a lot more

749
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 2: efficient with what he's what he's been given right now

750
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: and what he's doing currently projected for one hundred nineteen catches,

751
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: five ninety yards and seventeen touchdowns. I don't think the

752
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: touchdowns is going to hold. If Keen Allen breaks double

753
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 2: digit touchdowns, fantastic, I don't know if he ever has.

754
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 2: If he has, it's been a minute, but he's Yeah,

755
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 2: he's been. He's been awesome. Definitely honorable mentioned there, Rashaun Slater.

756
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 2: It's it's really as a bummer. Trey Pipkins for the

757
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 2: two point conversion, you know, all that was so fun

758
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: and Kellen morph A lining up, will clap in the slot.

759
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: Just give a game ball to that, you know, what

760
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 2: a play, what a play?

761
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: You know?

762
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: And I wish I wish the Chargers had won this

763
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 2: game so we could just get on here and talk

764
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: about all these great individual performances. And we've talked about

765
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 2: some of them, but yeah, some really really good performances overall.

766
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 2: Could say, Morgan Fox a lot of better individual performances

767
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: and the defense, like I don't know when we'll talk

768
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: about this ever.

769
00:38:58,520 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: But they played better.

770
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 2: They played better. Their front in particular played a lot better.

771
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 2: Kudos to them for that. They are just some things

772
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 2: we had to clean up and hopefully they win so

773
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: we can come on the show and say something like

774
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: just nothing but positivity and I'm not sick.

775
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Definitely played Derrick Henry better than last year. I

776
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: think I really liked the way that they played Derrick Henry.

777
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 1: He had one explosive run, but outside of that, it

778
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: was it was a lot of you know, connective tissue

779
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: up front, will clap though lining up in the slot.

780
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: We've seen him line up at slot, at tight end,

781
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: at fullback. The guy who's just out here living his

782
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: best life. I love to see it. Super creative design.

783
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 1: I feel like the Titans were just like a hot

784
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: mess the like a backup center is out here, like

785
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: what is going on here? So it was it was

786
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,959
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. I love that that played design

787
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: and Trey had a nice catch. It was it was

788
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of a jump ball kind

789
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: of situation. It was a great catch.

790
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 2: Respect yeah, I know it wasn't a contested catch, but

791
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: you know, difficult. You know, it wasn't a perfect ball.

792
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 2: He had to really jump up and use his hands correctly.

793
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 2: Very impressive, you know, very very impressive, really really awesome stuff.

794
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 2: I'm waiting for this to be the Rashons later play

795
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 2: at like the fifty and I just want to watch

796
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 2: a dB try to tackle Rashwan's later with his RS

797
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: and everything.

798
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun.

799
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

800
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

801
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: I want to see Brashon on the open field.

802
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, we'll do our little mini look ahead here.

803
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: We're running out of time. Chargers and Vikings both OH

804
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 1: and two this week. As of right now, the history

805
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: of OH and two teams making the playoffs, there's still

806
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: some hope left out there. From a historical data perspective,

807
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 1: I think it's eleven point five percent of the teams

808
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: who start own two still end up making the playoffs.

809
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: If you lose, it goes down significantly. Since two thousand

810
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 1: and two. According to Bill Barnwell of ESPN, there have

811
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: been let me make sure I get this number right,

812
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: there have been ninety nine teams in the NFL since

813
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: two thousand and two that have started oh and three

814
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: and there have been exactly one to make the playoffs.

815
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: That was the twenty eighteen Houston Texans. So from a

816
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 1: historical perspective, this game is an absolute must win scenario

817
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: for the Chargers. They have to win to keep their

818
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 1: chances alive. Tyler, what's kind of the biggest thing you're

819
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: watching as we kind of zoom out and peek ahead

820
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: towards the Minnesota Vikings?

821
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 2: Really just how they handle both the gotta have it

822
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: clutch situations as well as third down. I don't recall

823
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 2: exactly what the style was against the Titans, but it

824
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: was a very low percentage of conversion. So how does

825
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 2: the offense convert in those situations? This isn't a game

826
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: where like, okay, maybe against the Titans you could win

827
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 2: with twenty one points or or twenty four points, and

828
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 2: they almost did against the Vikings and against Justin Jefferson

829
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 2: and the way the defense has been playing, this feels

830
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: like a thirty plus game is a must in order

831
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: to win this one. Regardless of how the defense is

832
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: for the Vikings, of what you think of Kirk Cousins,

833
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: They're going to put up points, and so I want

834
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: to see how they do the Chargers. Can you take

835
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 2: what they've done in week one and grown into weeks two?

836
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: Now in week three, can we can we finish these games?

837
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 2: Can we be better on third down? That's what I'm

838
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 2: looking for more than anything else. How they accomplish that.

839
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: I don't care. Throw to Trey Pipkins, throw to Scott

840
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: matt Lock. I don't care what you do. I'll run

841
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: out there whatever you need, but make it work and

842
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: get a win.

843
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, there's there should be a lot of urgency

844
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 1: heading into this game because historically this is a must

845
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: win situation for me. This is going to come down

846
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: to how Kellen Moore manufactures explosive plays. And I think

847
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: this is partially like where Quentin Johnson comes in. If

848
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,240
Speaker 1: you watch that game on Thursday night from the Minnesota

849
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 1: Vikings and the Philadelphia Eagles, you saw Brian Flores throw

850
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,800
Speaker 1: three safeties in the back and dared the Philadelphia Eagles

851
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: to run the football. What happened was the Philadelphia Eagles

852
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: nearly matched the Chargers in their historical success rate on

853
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: the ground. But his mission was very clearly like, We're

854
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: gonna keep everything in front of us, We're gonna do

855
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: something different, and you are not going to allow aj

856
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: Brown and DeVante Smith to get behind us and create

857
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: these explosive plays. At this current moment, the Vikings't have

858
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: the fourth fewest explosive plays allowed on defense, which is

859
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: a really really impressive feat given who they have played

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Speaker 1: in the first two weeks. So Kellen Moore is going

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Speaker 1: to have to come into this game and manufacture some

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Speaker 1: lot of the explosive plays have just come organically right

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Speaker 1: on a big run on a Keenan Allen, you know,

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Speaker 1: cover two hole shot. Well, if Brian Flordes is gonna

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Speaker 1: sit back there with three safeties, you got to figure

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Speaker 1: out a way to get past them and figure out

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Speaker 1: a way to create these explosive play opportunities. Otherwise you

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Speaker 1: just have to be a super efficient play to play

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Speaker 1: down down to down offense, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: that's how you win this kind of game. I think

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Speaker 1: you got to figure out a way to create some

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Speaker 1: explosive plays on offense, and I'm curious to see how

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Speaker 1: Killin Moore does that against Brian Flay this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it should be a fun one.

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Speaker 1: Should definitely be a fun one. Hopefully the Chargers can

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Speaker 1: win this game and we can have a more positive

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Speaker 1: week next week and talk about how the chances are

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Speaker 1: still alive and everything like that will be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun this These two teams feel like are almost

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Speaker 1: mirror images of each other, so I would imagine this

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Speaker 1: game to have a little bit of craziness, a little

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Speaker 1: bit of wild ending kind of game. So definitely fasten

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Speaker 1: those seatbelts on Sunday morning, Tyler, any final thoughts before we.

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Speaker 2: Head out, Nope, just hope the next time I see

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Speaker 2: you guys on this channel it's a wine. I hope,

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Speaker 2: I hope, I hope, I hope, I hope. But if not,

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Speaker 2: we'll be here anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we will definitely be here. I appreciate Tyler for

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Speaker 1: joining me today as always, appreciate Greg Kim for producing.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate the Chargers for allowing us to have this platform

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Speaker 1: as sincerely as possible. We are very, very grateful that's

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Speaker 1: going to do it for us today. Hope you guys

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Speaker 1: have a good rest of your week. As always, built

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Speaker 1: up M