1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,720 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Ori and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:05,119 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast d A and Paranormal 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: share us with everyone. This is an exciting new network 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: that will feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: The thoughts and opinions expressed by the host our thoughts 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: and opinions only, and do not necessarily reflect those of 9 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast A 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 1: out employees of premier networks or their sponsors and associates. 11 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: You are encouraged to do the proper amount of research yourself, 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: depending on the subject matter and your needs. You are 13 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi Hollis on 14 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I am 15 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome to my show. Remember each week 16 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: this is the place you go to when you want 17 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: to hear the latest in paranormal stories, personal paranormal stories, 18 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: not the things that you might read in a book 19 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,839 Speaker 1: or in the headlines, but people just like you who 20 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: are seeing and experiencing things fifty years ago, yesterday, and tomorrow. 21 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: So I want to welcome each and every one of 22 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,880 Speaker 1: you who knows a story, who's experienced something, or has researched, 23 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: or it's just curious about the topic of anything between 24 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: angels to aliens. You take your pick, and if you 25 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: want to combine, go for it. Go to my main website, 26 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: which is Heidi how us dot com and tell me 27 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 1: about it. Give me as much detail as you would like, 28 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you, the more the better, and I'm 29 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: saying this to you every single week because it's that important. 30 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: This is the only way that we learn about what's 31 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: going on. And I'm not a guru. I don't have 32 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: all the answers, and if anybody says they do, absolutely 33 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,839 Speaker 1: change the channel, run of the opposite direction, or cover 34 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: your ears, because no, this is not what this show 35 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: is about. I am someone who has been there, seen that, 36 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: experienced it, freaked out, found and answers, wrote about it, 37 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: got over it, and now I'm trying to help others 38 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: do the same thing. But it is all coming from 39 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,279 Speaker 1: the heart, that's coming from the research and yeah, professional 40 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: and opinions personal. So we're just like anybody else, aren't 41 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: we When we experience these things, we are human so far, 42 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: um we tried to apply what it is that we know, 43 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: and uh, I do no difference, So again I welcome 44 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: you to do that. And also go to my comic website, 45 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: which is the Outlanders Comic dot com and you can 46 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: follow it on Instagram. Paranormal comic strip that highlights absolutely 47 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: everything that I've experienced, and uh, it's all I ever 48 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: wanted to be growing up is to be a comic 49 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: strip artist and I have lived that dream and still am. 50 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: I'm having a blast with it, so I hope you 51 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: enjoy it and get a kick out of it as well. 52 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: And also go to my hat Man letters on medium 53 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 1: dot com. I am answering your emails there as well. 54 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I keep thinking every day what more 55 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: can I do today? And I'm trying to figure out 56 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: and solve and resolve and apply and hope and pray 57 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: that I'm pushing the right buttons to help everybody get 58 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: to able level and what is that they're experiencing out there, 59 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: because a lot of it is outright horrifying, but then 60 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: there's also very beautiful things that are going on and 61 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: you have no one to vent to, or you have 62 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: such a small group that you can then too. But 63 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: this is the platform right here. So if you've got 64 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: some cool stuff that you've come across, even as a researcher, 65 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: and you want to share about it here in this program, 66 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: I will also open up the gates to you to 67 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: come on this show and to share that if you 68 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: would like. But I am telling you, nine times out 69 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,119 Speaker 1: of ten people will send me an email and it's fine. 70 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: I do not mind, and I actually love reading through 71 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: these emails. And uh, you know, I think I mentioned 72 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: here on the show a couple of times too that 73 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: I went to a conference and I opened up the 74 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: gates for people to come up to the mic and 75 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: share what it is that they've experienced. But nope, they've 76 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: waited until I was done with the mic and pulled 77 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,359 Speaker 1: me to the side and just flood gates open, telling 78 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: me so much. So I get it. You know, it 79 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: could be a little low tear fying to do this 80 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: type of thing, So no worries. So guess what today's 81 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: show is all about. It is all about your emails. 82 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Oh yes, So we're gonna have a good time digging 83 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: in and I rarely, and I mean rarely look ahead 84 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 1: on any of these emails, like I'll see first line maybe, 85 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: or i'll see a link maybe. I'll hit it every 86 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: once in a while, but it is raw, and oftentimes 87 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:27,479 Speaker 1: I'm sitting here trying to read these to you guys. 88 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: I'm omitting curse words, um, misspellings, missed words. So sometimes 89 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,119 Speaker 1: I have to pause and try to figure it out 90 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: and go from there. So we're gonna dig into these emails. 91 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna see what we have, because it's always a 92 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: mixed bag. Though I do get mostly shadow People hat 93 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: man emails. I am always hopeful people realize that I 94 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: cover a lot of other things. I've got eight books 95 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: out there, people, and only three of them are on 96 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 1: the dark topics. Otherwise it's Jesus Encounters, Angel Encounters, and 97 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: uh even kids books. So yeah, alright, so anyways, we're 98 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: diving in, all right. This one says dear Heidi tonight, 99 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: I was looking up the first mentionings of shadow People, 100 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: your name on Coast to Coast came up. Um. I 101 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: wondered this because when our shadow People first showed up, 102 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: it was in I went on the Internet at the time. 103 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: Although it was very new to me. To look it up. 104 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 1: I could find no mention of them. No one had 105 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: heard of them, which didn't surprise me since it was 106 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: a term my then three and five year old girls 107 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: made up to describe what was in their room that 108 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:54,360 Speaker 1: night through the morning. Okay, sounds spooky. Um. I spent months, 109 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: then years trying to find out what was tarding us 110 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: to no avail. I have years of stories of how 111 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: they frightened. My family followed us to several houses, and 112 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: to this day they show up often. If you're interested, 113 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: I can send you our incidences, which are too many 114 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: to count. Three of my four daughters and myself are 115 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: witnesses to them. At first, they were just annoying, and 116 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: then they turned to sinister events, but as scary as 117 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 1: they already are. Later came what we called quote look 118 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: alikes Laura or Laurie. Um. Interesting, Oh way to end 119 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: that one? That was? Yeah? Okay, alright, So I'm going 120 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: to start from the top. You're looking for first mentionings 121 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: of shadow people, and you found my name. Yes, uh, 122 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: I am the person who put it out there officially. 123 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: I have been speaking to this more officially since two 124 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: thousand and one. I had a poor man's copyright in 125 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: nineties seven for the book I called The Secret War 126 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: that first mentioned shadow People. I got the full copyright 127 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: in the year two thousand, I believe, or before that. Um, 128 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: I was a poor college kid, you know, and I 129 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: couldn't afford even to get an official copyright that's on 130 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: the books. But the poor man's copyright that's where you 131 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: mail it to yourself, you know, way back then, that's 132 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: what you did. Um. So I was able to do that. 133 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, So there's always this question and you know, who, 134 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: really who said this first? And I'm like, you know, 135 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: trust me, I I hadn't heard of it before myself 136 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: saying it either. And uh, I just found it easier 137 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: to say shadow people versus having to explain to my 138 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: friends what I was indicating instead of, you know, the 139 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 1: big blob of blackness, you know. And I was like, Okay, 140 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna call them shadow people, so you guys 141 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about. Okay, So shadow people blah 142 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. And that's how I came up 143 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: with the name. Now I have over the years heard 144 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: from people say wow, when I was a kid, I 145 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: called him shadow people too. You know. It's like I 146 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,719 Speaker 1: hear you. There's people that you know, they say, if 147 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: something is invented on one side of the planet, on 148 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: the opposite side of the planet, the same thing as 149 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: being invented, right, But it's just a matter of who 150 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: comes to it first and telling others. I guess I 151 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: don't know. But all I could do and say is yes, 152 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: I am the person who named, discovered, defined it, and 153 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: put it out there and trademarked it. Now shadow people 154 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: and hat Man and I have the people who will say, well, 155 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: how can you how can you do that? How can 156 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: you how can you say that something that has been 157 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: in existence forever? It's like, well, superheroes and heroes have 158 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 1: been in existence forever to they just give different names 159 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: for different ones, right, I don't know. I mean it's 160 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: like I'm not saying that I own evil, um, because 161 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: evil has been existence for a very long time, right, 162 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 1: And how do you define evil? Well, I had my 163 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,559 Speaker 1: own way of defining the evil, right, Um, so you 164 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: call it the Boogeyman, to call it anything you want. 165 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 1: Purple people leaders, aren't these names that were spoken of 166 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,959 Speaker 1: in the past. I think I don't know. Um, yeah, um. 167 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: So then you also went on to say that your 168 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: three and five year old girls they described to you 169 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: what was going on in the room, and this falls 170 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: right into it. Uh, the shadow people phenomenon, that's fascinating. 171 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that I do tend 172 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: to get a lot. You know, people will write me 173 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: and say, here's a teaser. I've experienced this for you years. 174 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: Do you want to learn more? Write me back. I 175 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: have so many of these, and I'm like, look right 176 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: and put it all there, because this is the time 177 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: to do that. And uh again, I don't read these 178 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: emails in advance, so I'm like, oh, surprised to me, 179 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: this was a teaser email. Um, but feel free Lorie 180 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: to write man, tell me more about it. I can't 181 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: always follow up and say yes please, because I think 182 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: other listeners are like what what, Yes, put it there, 183 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: tell us all about it, because this is uh, this 184 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: is definitely a place. Okay. Also, you mentioned about the 185 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: shadow people being annoying at first and the becoming sinister. 186 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: This is a pattern. This is something that I have 187 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 1: been speaking of for years and people are like, well, 188 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: the shadow people didn't scare me, so they're not a 189 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: big deal. I'm like, oh, oh, they're studying you and 190 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,599 Speaker 1: they're trying to find the weak spot for you, and 191 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: it will get nastier if they stick around long enough. 192 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: And you and your story here with your kids. This 193 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: is a perfect example of how that works. And then 194 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: you go to mention something really fascinating at the end here, 195 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,679 Speaker 1: just a cliffhanger that you had lookalikes showing up. Now 196 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: if I'm thinking this is what you're meaning, I've experienced 197 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: that as well, where something wore the face of my 198 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: college roommate and came into my bedroom like waking up 199 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: to this, like what are you doing here? And it 200 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: was so pleased with itself, absolutely pleased with itself. And um, 201 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: I'll tell more about that after the break here, because 202 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: really really disturbing, and you wonder, how could this be 203 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: connected to these shadowy things that I've been seeing around here? 204 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: But oh yes, oh yes, you know evil is evil, right, 205 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: Darkness is darkness, and they are related. So I'll talk 206 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: about that after the break. You are listening to Dark 207 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart 208 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: Radio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. Second Round. 209 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more email. Welcome back. You 210 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis 211 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast i 212 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal podcast Network. Just before the break, I had 213 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: Lori who was sharing about many incidences that her and 214 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: her children have experienced and referring to what they saw 215 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: on their own independent as shadow people, something that actually 216 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: happens out there in the world. And she mentioned something 217 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: at the end, and I was sharing about a story 218 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:11,319 Speaker 1: that happened to myself that as scary and as spooky 219 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: as shadow people wore, they also experienced something called look alikes. 220 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: Well they called them that, and I had something quite similar, 221 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 1: and I wanted to share a little bit more about that. 222 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: So imagic again. I was in college and I woke 223 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: up to my college roommate being in my bedroom. There's 224 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: something in me that I could be sound asleep, but 225 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: when something comes around me that's not quite right. I 226 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: my heart literally starts like pumping faster, and I get 227 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: an adrenaline rush, and I'm wide awake, and I'm like, okay, great, 228 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: what's here? And I look around and right close to 229 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: my head maybe a foot away, is my roommate, and 230 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: I like, Samantha, what what are you doing here? And 231 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: it smiled. I get these ikey chills. It smiled and 232 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: it was very much like the joker smile that stretched 233 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: ear to ear at a big, strong V shape. And 234 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: I was like when I'm pulling back in the bed 235 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're not Samantha, and I'm like, get 236 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: out of here, get out, get out, get out, get out, 237 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: and this thing left. Now I should have known better 238 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: that this was not her because it stood probably I 239 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: don't know how many how many feet are off of 240 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: the ground for the height of the bed, like like 241 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: three feet or something. It was short, so something was 242 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: practicing on looking like her. So what I'd have my 243 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: guard down, I'd let it, you know, hang out and 244 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: we'll have a conversation. I mean, come on, your three 245 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: ft tall I know, what is that? What is that? 246 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: So it's fascinating, Laurie that you mentioned this and how 247 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: things evolved. It seemed more annoying at first, these shadow people, 248 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: and then it became this sinister thing and you didn't 249 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: share your stories individually. You want me to ask you 250 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: for more, I'm asking for more. Send it on over. 251 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm excited. I think the listeners are excited as well 252 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: to learn more about what it is that you've experienced 253 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: with your kids. And yeah, you know, these things progress 254 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: and that's why I tell people, don't don't be complacent 255 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: about something being in the house that's not paying rent. Okay, 256 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: if you had a squatter hanging out in your place, 257 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, oh there are nice squatter. No, they really 258 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't be there though, but they're nice. Okay. If you 259 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: like the presence of somebody being there that really shouldn't 260 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: be These things really shouldn't be there. And uh, why 261 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: would they hang out so much and keep looking at 262 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: aserving Because they're making a plan. They are building ways 263 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: to gain access to you and your sense of security, sanity, soul. 264 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: You know, let's just lay it all out there. Those 265 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: are all asses, aren't they. Um? Sanity, soul, security? There 266 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: we go um alright. So anyways, yeah, so I always 267 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: have your guard up. Only allow those connected to the 268 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: light God and things will change, because nine times out 269 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: of ten, if they're coming to your costa like that, 270 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: it is because you could potentially have a lot more 271 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: lighthearted and light inspired occurrences going on in your life 272 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: versus them clouding and clogging up the pipes, if you 273 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Alright, So next one I've got, 274 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: I did see this, this repetitive email coming up, and 275 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, so I just kind of copy pasted 276 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: a couple of emails from the same person, and um, 277 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: you'll see, you'll see what I'm giggling about, because it 278 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: was just kind of funny to see a few pop ups, 279 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: like three emails. It's okay, though, and these things happen. 280 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: People aren't sure if their emails go through and I'm 281 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: getting all copies of them. So but then sometimes it's weird. 282 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: I do see people cut off their emails. You know 283 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,160 Speaker 1: what I think is the best way to do. Type 284 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: it up on your your computer or something and copy 285 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: paste it into the form and send it over that way. 286 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 1: So I think people just have trouble scrolling and typing 287 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: their stuff into the form. On my website, it happens, 288 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: all right. So here we go. This one says, Hi, Heidi, 289 00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,960 Speaker 1: I emailed you earlier, but I don't know if you've 290 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: received it. Oh yeah, I got them all. It's nothing 291 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: extremely important. Just wanted to ask you questions about angels. 292 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,360 Speaker 1: Geez I don't know what's wrong with me. I could 293 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: think of a dozen questions before writing to you, and 294 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: now my mind goes blank, L O L so funny 295 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: and then they put an emoji slap in their face. 296 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 1: It's just kind of all right. Um. I heard someone 297 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 1: say that angels didn't have wings and there were only 298 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: male angels. You had said that you have seen angels. 299 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: So is this true? No wings and only males. Quite 300 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,040 Speaker 1: a few years ago, when my dad died, after I 301 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 1: had come back from burying him, I got on the 302 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: computer and was talking to some friends in a spiritual 303 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: chat room about him. I never got to be quote 304 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: Daddy's little girl, and was hurt and angry, typing away 305 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: crying to my friends. These friends could see spirits and guides, 306 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: but I couldn't. Between losing Dad and not being able 307 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: to see or hear my spirit guides, I was starting 308 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: to get a little hysterical. Okay, my friend had said 309 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: something to me, which I can't remember what it was. 310 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: But then all of a sudden, there was an angel 311 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: standing behind me, but I couldn't see it until it 312 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: opened its wings as if to hug me. Oh, I 313 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: got goose bumps. Oh. Then when I seen the wings 314 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: out of my peripheral vision. It was so beautiful. I 315 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: could see all the details in its feathers. Then a 316 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: sudden sense of peace came over me. Was that my 317 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:45,880 Speaker 1: guardian angel? Thank you, Kathy. Oh that's so beautiful, so beautiful. 318 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,200 Speaker 1: So it's interesting you asked me do they have wings? 319 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 1: And then you're like, hold on, I had wings, um 320 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: for myself. When I saw angelic beings, I did not 321 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: see wings. I did see white robes. Yeah, um. And 322 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: I've got an interesting little story about that question about 323 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: their being wings or not, because I always was curious 324 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: to myself. Um, but no, I I usually did see 325 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 1: um males with long white robes. Now I did see uh, 326 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: women in this place that I go to that I 327 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: just kind of referred to as being a crystal city. 328 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: And I saw men and women in these white robes. 329 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: Now I don't think that they were all quote angelic beings. 330 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: I think some of them were like myself, who were 331 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 1: going to this place to learn more things. And uh, 332 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: when I say more things and learning, this this crystal 333 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: city is is very much like a um educational place. 334 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: And I was taught a lot of things there and 335 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,919 Speaker 1: I still go there. And so if this is a 336 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: place of angelic beings, yes there are female ones, but 337 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: it does seem to be that in the Bible, Uh, 338 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 1: it is male dominated in references to anyone of power, 339 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: and you know it is that just the sign of 340 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: the times. Was it bias going on? I would be 341 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: suspicious that this might be the case, because it still 342 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: happens today, does it not? Oh, I could tell you stories, 343 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: and I think every lady could as well. Um, so 344 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: who knows, who knows why that was excluded? But yes, 345 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: there are beings that our female as well that I 346 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: have seen that are angelic in nature, but might be 347 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: like myself who were there to learn things that I've seen. 348 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: But I have seen, um something else that you might 349 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: find really fascinating. So one time I I lost a 350 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: patient of mine and it bothered me because it it 351 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: was just so sudden, It was out of nowhere and 352 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: just didn't seem like it should happen. And um, this 353 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 1: patient of mine, Uh, they had lost both of their 354 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 1: legs and I saw them in this angelic place right Um, 355 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: and he's standing tall. I'm like, wow, you're tall, You've 356 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 1: got your you've got your legs back and he's like yeah, 357 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, I was so glad to 358 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: see him because I was upset what had happened to him. 359 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: And he was like there to greet me, and I 360 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: was like, hey, I got a question for you. Do 361 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 1: angels have wings? And he just kind of smiled and 362 00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: lead forward, like what do you think type of thing? Like, 363 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,199 Speaker 1: you know, do I wings in the back of me? 364 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: You know? And it was I didn't see wings. I 365 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: didn't see wings. It's like, but I also don't attribute 366 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: to people to become angels. Um, so it's not something 367 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: I've experienced. But wow, what an experience that you've had. 368 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I have heard from many 369 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: people who describe seeing wings. I think it would be 370 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,919 Speaker 1: fabulous to see such a thing. But it's just not 371 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: something that I have been privy to myself. But I 372 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,400 Speaker 1: have heard of the most beautiful, embracing wings described as 373 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:29,679 Speaker 1: you just described, and having those wonderful hugs beyond and above, 374 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: hugs that seems that only an angel can give. So 375 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: I just think that is wonderful. And and it's like, well, 376 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: is it a matter of self fulfilling prophecy? Were you 377 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,239 Speaker 1: anticipating this? It doesn't sound like it. It sounds like 378 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:47,879 Speaker 1: you were caught off guard, very much like how I 379 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: was when I had my Jesus encounters, because it's like, 380 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:56,360 Speaker 1: who would expect Jesus to pop up? And like for yourself, 381 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: you are not a person who sees guides and spirits, 382 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,959 Speaker 1: and here you were embraced by it. So people always 383 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 1: ask me why you, Heidie, why would you get the 384 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,160 Speaker 1: chance to see something like Jesus? And I'm like, why 385 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: not you? Why not me? I think we all have 386 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: the chance to experience these things, and you and your 387 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: story is one to say like here, here, you are 388 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: not expected and it happened. Um, you know. I think 389 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: also there's something that I'd like to say in regards 390 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: to this, just a little bit more, but I have 391 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: to speak to it after the break. You guys, you 392 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me? Heidi Hollis 393 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a 394 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal podcast Network. Let's stick around, We'll be right back. 395 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me? 396 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 1: Tidy Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 397 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Just before the break, I 398 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 1: got a wonderful email here and uh, we're discussing several 399 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 1: elements with this person named Kathy who shared about the 400 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: embrace of an angel. And I am of the opinion 401 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 1: that anybody can have these wonderful experiences that some will 402 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 1: say I am not privy to seeing these types of 403 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: things and guides and spirits, as Kathy was staying here 404 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: and then lo and behold it happened to her. And 405 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: I really believe that at some point in a person's 406 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: life that we do experience something out of the ordinary. Um. 407 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: But there's something I wanted to speak to that topic 408 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: because I've experienced angelic beans, I've experienced Jesus on several 409 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: occasions and wrote about it in my book Jesus Is 410 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: No Joke. Second book working at it right now as 411 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: we speak, in fact um. And something I wanted to 412 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: say about that because I say this, I've said this 413 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: over the years, like, oh, we're all able to see 414 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: these things at some point, and people are like, no, Heidi, no, No. 415 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: I have been looking to have these experiences my whole life, 416 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: and and I've really tried hard, and I've gone to 417 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: all these people and paid a lot of money and 418 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: learned this, learned that, and and no, no, no, these 419 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: these things don't just happen. And it's like again, why 420 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 1: you why why would that happen? And and you know, 421 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: I really really when I started getting these types of questions, 422 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: I really did not know that others weren't um as 423 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: as accessible. I guess you could say to having these experiences, Um, 424 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, was I more extraordinarily opened? Um? Potentially? But 425 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: then I have learned more things in recent years than 426 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: as to why this may have happened to myself more 427 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: than uh the next person. But I'm always to say 428 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm nobody special, um, just like anybody else. But uh, 429 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,719 Speaker 1: it has been something that puzzled me for a very 430 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: long time as to why others don't report these things 431 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: more readily. But I still will stick by that. I 432 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: believe that eventually, at some point in a person's life 433 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: that they will have something extraordinary that they can't explain. 434 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 1: And Cathy, your experience with the angel embracing you like 435 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 1: that at that point in your life where you just 436 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 1: buried your father, I mean, how beautiful is that? And uh, 437 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think it came at a perfect time. 438 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: And I'm I'm really grateful for your story. Now. In 439 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: a prior email that you've sent me, you're like, you 440 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: wanted to hear more in general about guardian angels and 441 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: spirit guides, and you know, I think they're all around us. 442 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't think we can always see them. I've had 443 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: people over the years who seem at a conference they're like, WHOA, 444 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 1: You've got an army of angels behind you? What what 445 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: is going on here? And I've heard that more consistent 446 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: over the years too, But I haven't seen them for myself. 447 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what to think. I appreciate when people 448 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: will hone in on something and see something and they 449 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: give their interpretation and I see patterns like, oh my goodness, 450 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: somebody else told me that before. So it's um. It's 451 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: something that I think we're we all should embrace to 452 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: know that we're never alone in this world. It might 453 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: feel like it a lot of the times, but we're 454 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: really not. We're surrounded by our past loved ones too. 455 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: As one of my good friends who's a psychic medium, 456 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: would say, like, how dare you say that? You don't 457 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: realize that so and so's around you? You know, it's 458 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: like an insult when they're staring right at them, I'm like, well, 459 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: I don't see them, you know. So it's just trying 460 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: to keep it real. But I'm trying to get better 461 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: at acknowledging that our loved ones also don't leave us. 462 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: I mean, especially a mom or a dad, that that's 463 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 1: protective love that I'm sorry you can't put a flame too, 464 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: because wow, I mean just just over overpowering love right 465 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: for most moms. Anyhow, I've heard some horror stories and 466 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: some people are like, look, I don't want to see 467 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: my mom on the other side. That's scary. Um but yeah, 468 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: but um yeah. So I I think that it's important 469 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: to note, you know, what are we defining as being 470 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: a guardian? Because I've heard many times where somebody's had 471 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: something spooky come into their home and the spirit of 472 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: their grandmother stood up against it or something and they 473 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: saw the clash. Gives me goose bumps because I've had 474 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,959 Speaker 1: many stories like that sent to me or told me 475 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: over the years, and it's just beautiful. So Grandma the guardian, 476 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 1: maybe they're on your side too. So I always know 477 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 1: that I always hold at that truth that we're surrounded 478 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: by love and we might get an embrace when released 479 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: expect it. I know I did, and U Jesus is 480 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: never far away. That's how I feel, because after he 481 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: surprised me several times over, I really truly feel he 482 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,479 Speaker 1: is all around us. And and people have that Santa 483 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: Claus song you know you better watch out any better 484 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: not cry. And I'm gonna tell you why. Well, Jesus 485 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: is watching, not Santa Um. So, yeah, there you have it. 486 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: Thank you for your email there, Kathy. Alright, So I 487 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: am going to mosey on over here to the next email. 488 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get these all in because I've got 489 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: several I need to hop on. Alright, this is one, 490 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: says dear Heidi. I had a patient once about five 491 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: years ago who lives in Florida in a wheelchair now, 492 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: and out of the blue told me her life experience. 493 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: It happens all the time. Oh, I know that feeling. 494 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: It's like a target. Right. She and her husband could 495 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: not get pregnant after many tries, and this was fifty 496 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: years ago. Then one day after a UFO siding, she 497 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 1: ended up pregnant. They were so happy and she secretly 498 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: thought of a name for the child that they were 499 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: about to have and did not tell anybody, not yet. 500 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: One morning she awoke and she noticed that blood was 501 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: under her overnight she'd had a miscarriage, but she saw 502 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: no fetus. Her husband and herself were absolutely perplexed. Then 503 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: he passed away some time before I met her, She 504 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: went on to say. Then about twenty years after the 505 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:01,440 Speaker 1: quote miscarriage, she got a her in the mailbox with 506 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: no postage, and it read Hello, I am your daughter, 507 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: and it read the same name that she told no 508 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: one about years prior. Oh my gosh, I have goose bumps. 509 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: Her daughter went on to say that she was safe 510 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: and okay, and that she would reach out to her 511 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: when it was time. She was an absolute shock and 512 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: so was I, and she said she still has that letter. 513 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:44,479 Speaker 1: Thanks for sharing. Martin. Wow, Martin, Okay, that's like goose bumps. 514 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: Had to tell I don't know how to feel fully 515 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: about it, because it's like here says couple that was 516 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: not able to conceive and conceives happiest days of their 517 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: lives and then miscarriage. Baby's gone, and I was not 518 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: able to have the joy of embracing this child or 519 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: grazing this child, knowing this child, and and then to 520 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: get this letter in the mailbox like that, I'm sure 521 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: it was thrilling to an extent and also super duper puzzling. 522 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: And then when I think of those that I know 523 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: personally who were pregnant and all of a sudden the 524 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,600 Speaker 1: fetus is missing. They have a certain name for this 525 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 1: disappearing embryo phenomena, saying that you're uterus essentially ate your baby. Um, 526 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm just not trying to be cute about it, but 527 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 1: it's it's just kind of ridiculous to me, Like, really, 528 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: how is that missing baby syndrome thing? And that doesn't 529 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 1: make sense to me? And to do this to this woman, um, 530 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: so what it sounds like to me? And I'm sure 531 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 1: to you Martin that this this lady and her husband 532 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:10,919 Speaker 1: that they were victims of an alien abduction and made 533 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: pregnant um and more than likely it wasn't fully human 534 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: per the stories that you hear out there, when it 535 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: comes to these types of alien abductions, that hybrid gets 536 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: created and the baby gets taken after a certain amount 537 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:33,240 Speaker 1: of time of development and and then you're left without 538 00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: a child, it's it's rather sad um. And then to 539 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: know that some of these these embryo, these these hybrids 540 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: that get made. I've I've spoke to many people and 541 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 1: known many people who did later get to meet these 542 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: alien hybrid children of theirs, and sometimes, you know, it 543 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: was thrilling, like oh my gosh, you know it. Yeah, 544 00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: it's half human, half alien. They get to meet their it. 545 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 1: But they're not happy that they don't get to beat 546 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,919 Speaker 1: with their kid, and and that they were taken this way, 547 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: that they were created this way. Of course they would 548 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: have preferred to have them in their lives. But and 549 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: this this uh ending here to say, oh, one day, 550 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: I'll reach out to you when it's time. It's like 551 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 1: hold on when you're crossing over. And of course a 552 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 1: lot of people who recall being abducted say that they 553 00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: recall agreeing to these abduction phenomenon and being used to 554 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: create these uh alien hybrids and to be part of 555 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 1: these different experiments and and suddenly it's not so bad 556 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: type of thing. And it's like it's a confusing phenomenon, 557 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: you know. And I can't knock people for what they 558 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: believe to be true for themselves again't I just can't. Um. 559 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: I think that we all have to hone in on 560 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: our senses and our feelings on these things and be like, 561 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 1: would I let anybody else do this to me and 562 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: be okay with it? And that's how I personally would 563 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: take it. It wouldn't be a positive thing. Um. So 564 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: I'm seeing this woman here has uh, you know, had 565 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: her child stolen. That's horrific, But there must be a 566 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: little bit of sense of oh goodness, I think goodness, 567 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 1: she's okay in some sense. But now, something I was 568 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: told by some beings about why these hybrids are created. 569 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: It's not all good. And of course there's a confusion 570 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: out there that some of these these beings will tell 571 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: the alien abductees like, well, we're doing this and we're 572 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: creating these half human half alien hybrids because our race 573 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: is dying and we need your DNA to create these things, 574 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. It's like, we'll come to us 575 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: and have have dinner and tell me what's the problem. 576 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 1: I might donate a little DNA for you. You know. 577 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: It's like we're not all bad, right, um. But then 578 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: these beings are also known to be very deceptive, and uh, 579 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: I'll go a little bit more into that here after 580 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: the break, because we got to get to our last break. 581 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 1: You guys, you are listening to Dark Becomes Light with 582 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 1: Me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 583 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: to Coast I Am Paranormal Podcast Network. Let's stick around, 584 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:29,960 Speaker 1: can be right back, Welcome back. You are listening to 585 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I 586 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 587 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: Jessie for the break. I was reading off a fabulous email. 588 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: This came from Martin who shared about a patient who 589 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: had a very peculiar run in with an alien craft. 590 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: It sounds to me as if they were abducted and 591 00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: impregnated and then had the child removed, only for the 592 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: child to contact them by putting a letter in their 593 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: mailbox saying I will contact you at another point and 594 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:12,360 Speaker 1: signed it the name that she mentally gave the child 595 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 1: before the child was born. I mean, it's a fascinating story, 596 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: absolutely fascinating, and it's one of those things like, you know, 597 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: only for yourself, can you believe that this really happened? 598 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: You know, we we look at this from the outside 599 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: perspectrum of going ah, the lady probably just was imagining things. 600 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,600 Speaker 1: You know, I'm always of the opinion that you know, 601 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: there was really no benefit to make something like that 602 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: up right. She's uh, sounds like an elderly person who 603 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: was just sharing their life story and says I have 604 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: a daughter out there might not be human, but mentioned 605 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: the UFO citing really fascinating. Now, Um, you know my 606 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: encounters that I had with some beings and I was 607 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: never abducted, none that I know of or recall. And um, 608 00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 1: my understanding and what I was told by some be 609 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: things who speak against alien abductions believe it or not, 610 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: um that these hybrids are being made because these abducting 611 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: types of beings want to take over the land. Have 612 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: something that's half them and half us so be under 613 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,839 Speaker 1: their control, but be able to live upon the earth 614 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 1: surface because it's half us because its body is made 615 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: for this atmosphere and everything. So um, not the most 616 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: positive reasoning for having alien hybrids be created in this world. 617 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: And and also I have met and no several people 618 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 1: who have had ah these weird sessions with alien hybrid children. 619 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,000 Speaker 1: This is where they are sitting and shown child after 620 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: child saying does this one pass? Does this one pass? 621 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,359 Speaker 1: As if to judge if the kids are human enough 622 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: looking to be lit upon the earth. I mean, what 623 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: a strange thing. And then I know somebody who had 624 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,720 Speaker 1: a child who knows that their future is to help 625 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: release some of these like indentured servant like children, um, 626 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,919 Speaker 1: that are half human half alien. Because think about it, 627 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,959 Speaker 1: we hear of the grays not being the most sentimental 628 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: type of creatures, and then they're having something that's half us. 629 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,200 Speaker 1: We're all over the place with our emotions and to 630 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: be made and then have emotions and realize that your 631 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: existence is to be like a robot. I mean, how 632 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: how horrible? So, um, I don't think it's the best thing. 633 00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: What is happening here with these alien hybrid children being 634 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 1: made and not able to support them emotionally, And yeah, 635 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: not the best situation alright, So I'm going to get 636 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 1: into the next email. This one says, good morning, Hide. 637 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,839 Speaker 1: I was watching your interview on another show and the 638 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 1: hat man subject totally caught my attention. There is only 639 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: one other part soon outside that I have heard ever 640 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: speak on this. And as a teen, I was shown 641 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: in a vision while sleeping a beast on top of 642 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,520 Speaker 1: a terminal tower, a skyscraper building in downtown Cleveland, Ohio, 643 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: and the winged beast was throwing fireballs down onto the street, 644 00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,359 Speaker 1: destroying everything and every being hit by the fireball. In 645 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: this vision, I was being guided by a voice that 646 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: was instructing me to stay clear of the fireballs because 647 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,319 Speaker 1: if hit by one, my soul would be consumed and 648 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,359 Speaker 1: I would go to hell. Oh yikes. I made my 649 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: way into terminal tower and went downstairs to the elevators. 650 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: Standing at the door was a man wearing a black hat, 651 00:42:53,400 --> 00:43:00,279 Speaker 1: black suit, black briefcase, and fire in his eyes. He 652 00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,680 Speaker 1: said that he had my contract for me to sign 653 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:11,480 Speaker 1: so he could take my soul. I refused. Good. The 654 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: elevator door opened up, and the winged Beast was on 655 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: top of the elevator. And then suddenly a large angel 656 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: appeared and said he cannot be touched. Immediately, I was 657 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 1: embraced by the angel. Oh gosh, here's another angel. Embraced 658 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: and taken away to a bridge that overlooked the city. 659 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: The angel said, I am Gabriel. Goosebumps, goosebumps, and then 660 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,400 Speaker 1: showed me a city lit up like I have never 661 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: seen before. Gabriel said, this is what the new city 662 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: will look like. I awoke after I was shown the 663 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 1: New City. Oh wow, I am like absolutely just in 664 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: goose Bump's head to tell, what are the odds? You know, 665 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: if anybody listens to my show regularly, when I get 666 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: like several emails, I just I'm grabbing these things randomly. 667 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 1: But it's amazing to me how one email might correlate 668 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 1: to one I just shared just immediately prior. Here's an 669 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:30,320 Speaker 1: angel embrace and I was talking about the Crystal City 670 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,960 Speaker 1: that I am going to back and forth all the time. Um, 671 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: that I've learned more about these days. That really kind 672 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:43,839 Speaker 1: of shocked me. Um. But wow, you know, so many 673 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: people are having these dreams of something about to happen. 674 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: And that's like in the Book of Revelations that people 675 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 1: will dream dreams of things to come. Right. What are 676 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,800 Speaker 1: the odds of this? I mean, what what are the odds? 677 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:03,399 Speaker 1: And and Gabriel get Gabriel to show up. I just 678 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm just speechless, and I just I'm so enamored by this. 679 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm glad that you this was signed anonymously. UM, 680 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: I'm glad you caught me in another interview and speaking 681 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: on hat Man. I don't know who else would be 682 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,560 Speaker 1: out there speaking on the topic. Um, I've been doing 683 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 1: this for a long time, trying to spread the word, 684 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: but I'm glad that it reached your ears to know 685 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 1: that this thing, this guy, he is showing up in 686 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: people's dreams. He is this sinister piece of garbage out 687 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: there that people are having dreams about. Something that seems 688 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,720 Speaker 1: rather symbolic, right. You know, here we are talking about 689 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:49,760 Speaker 1: this thing, this winged beast on the top of a building, 690 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, and then and then this guy shows up 691 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: in a suit and a hat what with his eyes 692 00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 1: on fire. Yeah, he's got glow red eyes pretty much. 693 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 1: That's him and a contract to consume your soul. You know, 694 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,880 Speaker 1: when I first started speaking about hat Man not being 695 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,880 Speaker 1: a shadow person, did he seem shadowy to you? Did 696 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,160 Speaker 1: he seem like he's could just you know, be flimsy 697 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: and shape shift all of a sudden. He wasn't right. 698 00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: He has an outfit. Um, it doesn't always wear a hat. 699 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,560 Speaker 1: But this consistency and what he says and what he does. 700 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't me who said he's the devil. It was 701 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: emails like yours that said he was the devil, and 702 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:42,280 Speaker 1: he would introduce himself as such and it seems so crazy, 703 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,240 Speaker 1: doesn't it. It's like the devil, like this is something 704 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: that's like it's just not even real, right, But look 705 00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,200 Speaker 1: at all these different cultures that speak to something evil existing, 706 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, there's some similarities. There's some things that people 707 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: can't deny that are show own to be very much 708 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 1: on the same path of there being a devil head, Right, 709 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:09,960 Speaker 1: So what are we saying here? Why why is this happening? 710 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: And you know, if you can look at these ancient 711 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: paintings of of what heaven and hell should look like, 712 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: we get these ideas in our heads and then we're like, well, 713 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 1: that's like fantasy. I gotta you know, think of you know, 714 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 1: more realistic stuff. Let me go and play my video games. 715 00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:31,680 Speaker 1: That's more realistic looking. And it's like, yeah, it is. 716 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 1: But so if we try to take a step back 717 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 1: and do this with me for a second and think like, well, 718 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,919 Speaker 1: what would hell really look like like if you were 719 00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: living back in these ancient times when people were writing 720 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: these things and and had visions and whatnot. You know, 721 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,799 Speaker 1: they use their best words and judgment to spell these 722 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: things out for the next person in the next generation, 723 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: and then an artist might take their own guests about 724 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: how this might look. You know, they do their best. 725 00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: And then we got people today like myself and like 726 00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: you guys out there, and we're all describing I saw 727 00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,440 Speaker 1: something look like this and and and now, yeah, we 728 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:15,280 Speaker 1: have more technologically advanced ways to express it and render 729 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 1: the image to be put out there so others can 730 00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: see what we're talking about. But you know, I think 731 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,759 Speaker 1: we might all be talking about the same things. Now 732 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: will it play out the same way that we think 733 00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,960 Speaker 1: it might? You know, they use these very basic words 734 00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,520 Speaker 1: or confusing words way back in the day to write 735 00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,479 Speaker 1: the Bible, to say this or that. But if we 736 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 1: maybe look at you know, I don't know if you 737 00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,560 Speaker 1: guys are listening to the conversations out there in the 738 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 1: world when it comes to what hell may actually be. 739 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: But uh, they're talking about artificial intelligence being trapped in 740 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: this interdimensional universe of technology where we're just sitting there, 741 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 1: honed in with some goggles on and just living it 742 00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 1: out that way. And this will be a track up 743 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: because we won't want to get up off the couch, 744 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: we won't want to express our souls, we won't be 745 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: as we are, we won't be human anymore because we're 746 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: gonna kind of be part technology and and part something else, 747 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and human mixed in there too, and perhaps 748 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,160 Speaker 1: an alien hybrid dropper. So I mean, it could be 749 00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:24,840 Speaker 1: something kind of weird, and this could be the trap 750 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: of hell. Okay, this is what they're talking about out there, 751 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: So think about that. Think about the situations that we 752 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: could find ourselves in if we don't wake up to 753 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: what might be trying to grab ahold of us and 754 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:41,360 Speaker 1: keep us not evolving, and that is key, not evolving. 755 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: But I want to thank this person anonymously for sending 756 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,680 Speaker 1: this email along and everybody else who wrote me absolutely 757 00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,440 Speaker 1: fascinating stories and from A to Z we had it 758 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: all going on here and I want to welcome you 759 00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: guys again. Go to my main website and tell me 760 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: about what it is that you're experiencing out there. Don't 761 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,080 Speaker 1: tease us, give us, give us a good tell us everything. 762 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:07,600 Speaker 1: Go to Heidi Hollis dot com or shadow Folks dot 763 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,520 Speaker 1: com and just have it out and don't forget to 764 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,919 Speaker 1: also check out my comic strip. That's a paranormal comic strip. 765 00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,680 Speaker 1: So if you go to Instagram at the Outlanders comic 766 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 1: you will find me there all right. This has been fascinating. 767 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: I love these are my favorite shows. To grease your emails, 768 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,200 Speaker 1: so I guess we'll see you guys next time. You 769 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,640 Speaker 1: have been listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi 770 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 771 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 1: a M paranormal podcast network. We'll see you next time. 772 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:51,800 Speaker 1: Stay safe, everybody, goodbye. Well, if you like this edition 773 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,799 Speaker 1: of Dark Becomes Light, wait till you hear the next one. 774 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 1: You've been listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast 775 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 1: to Coast, a M paranormal podcast network