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Urban Meyer Darryl 37 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: bebl will be the interim head coach for the final 38 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: four games of this season, but a tenure that did 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: not last a full calendar year is now over another 40 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: transition ahead for the Jacksonville Jaguars and team owner shod 41 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: Con with us on today's episode, Aren't Judy Batista and Judy, 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: You've been following this situation very closely. How would you 43 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: describe Urban Myers eleven month tenure as the Jaguars head coach? 44 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,959 Speaker 1: It was just catastrophic, right, It was an unbelievable fall 45 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: from grace. I was there a few days before the 46 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: draft in April when they were getting ready to pick 47 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, and I was there to do a feature 48 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: story on sort of Urban Myers mandate. And the mandate 49 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: that shot Con gave him was like to change the 50 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: culture of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Right, they'd been mired in 51 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: mediocrity basically their entire existence. They'd sort of had these 52 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: brief spurts, you know, where they would go to like 53 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game, and then they would fall back, 54 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: and they just never had sustained winning or sustained excellence. 55 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 1: And so that was the mandate, change the culture, like 56 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: change everything, modernize the franchise. And shot Con I talked 57 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: to him when I was down there, and he called 58 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: this a transformational moment, like the combination of Urban Meyer 59 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: and then Trevor Lawrence coming on the transformational moment. He's 60 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: a winner, a leader, and a champion. He's the man 61 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: we want and mead in Jacksonville. And as you'll see shortly, 62 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: he wants to challenge. He's ready. So without further delay, 63 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: it's my privilege to introduce the new head coach of 64 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, Urban Meyer. You know, as you pointed out, 65 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: there were red flags all along the way. Even before then, 66 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: there was already one red flag heat right. He hired 67 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: a strength and conditioning coach who had been relieved of 68 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: his duties at the University of Iowa because of um, 69 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, substantiated reports of mistreating players based on their race. 70 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,280 Speaker 1: How on earth you could ever think something like that 71 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: would pass muster in the NFL. Who knows but that 72 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, that coach had to resign. Um. So there 73 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 1: were there were things like that where you just thought, like, 74 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: is this you know, do you sort of understand how 75 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: the NFL works, Like this stuff is not going to 76 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: work with professional athletes, and and and as you detail, 77 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there were just a string of um of 78 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: incidents and embarrassments even and things that are you know, 79 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: sort of relatively minor, like he incurredifying for improper offseason workouts. 80 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not the worst offense in the NFL. 81 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: There's plenty of people who get danked for that. But 82 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,840 Speaker 1: but it was just like a series of things like 83 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: that that you thought, like, are you like, are you 84 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: not paying attention? Like this just doesn't This is not 85 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: how the NFL works. It's different, right, you got to 86 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: learn the rules. And then of course that you know, 87 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: the Columbus bar situation was obviously very embarrassing. Urban Meyer 88 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: did not accompany his team back to Jacksonville after the 89 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 1: Thursday lass in Cincinnati, and then videos surfaced over the 90 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: weekend of him having a good time out and about 91 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: in Ohio. Some of the videos inappropriate conduct, let's put 92 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: it that way. That was four games in and Drew 93 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: I thought a very sharp rebuke, public rebuke from shot 94 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: con right saying he has to regain our trust, and 95 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: you're just thinking, like, this is one month into his 96 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: tenure as the head coach and you're already getting that 97 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of slap on the wrist, and it just sort 98 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: of evolved. It was just it was obviously I thought 99 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: pretty early on that this probably was not going to work, 100 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: and then to me that the real indication that this 101 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: was not going to work was a week ago they 102 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: got blown out by the Rams and James Robinson is 103 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: one of the best players on the team. The running 104 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 1: back had been benched. Urban had benched him for an 105 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: early fumble, and Trevor Lawrence came out and said, like, 106 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, this guy needs to be on the field. 107 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: Bottom line is James one of our best players and 108 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 1: he's got to be on the field. And we addressed it, 109 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: and I feel like we're in a good spot and 110 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: the whole team is We're good. You know, this is 111 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: one of our best players. He needs to be on 112 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: the field. And I thought, that's not Trevor Lawrence's style 113 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: to break with the head coach in public. And so 114 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: when that happened, you thought, Okay, he's lost, Trevor Lawrence, 115 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: you know so, and then it's irrecoverable. Judy, if we 116 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: also go back to the spring where when urban Meyer, 117 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 1: just a couple of months on the job, you had 118 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: asked him why he felt like he would not be 119 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: the next successful college coach to fail in the NFL 120 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: and didn't necessarily answer the question. Is that sound about right? Yeah? 121 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: You know, I said, like, well, why, you know, the 122 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: track record is not that great of even the best 123 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: college football coaches making the jump to the NFL. And 124 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: he said, well, you know, there's a lot of NFL 125 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: coaches who never coached in college, you know, NFL coaches 126 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: who haven't been very successful in the NFL either, which 127 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 1: is true obviously, but it also didn't answer the question, 128 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Like he didn't you know, he didn't articulate like, well, 129 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: why do you think you're going to be different? What 130 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: do you what do you think you possess beyond sort 131 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: of just extreme confidence in your system and your ability 132 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: to evaluate players, you know. And I thought that sort 133 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: of told me something like, well, it doesn't matter what 134 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: other why NFL coaches have failed, Like, the only question 135 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: is like, how are you going to be successful at 136 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: a path that other people have not been successful on? 137 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: And right, as it turns out, it wasn't successful. You know. 138 00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: He fell into some of the same pit falls that 139 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: I think we've seen other coaches, and a lot of 140 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: that I think goes back to sort of the bigger 141 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: thing of being a college coach is a much different 142 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: thing than being an NFL coach, You are answerable to many, 143 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: many fewer people when you are a big time college 144 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: football coach than you are in the NFL. In Judy, 145 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, this is a Jaguars team that's writing a 146 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: five game losing streak. They're two and eleven on the season. 147 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: But had it not been for the stuff that transpired 148 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: off the field, hadn't been just production based, He's still 149 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: the coach of the Jaguars, Right, I think so? Yeah, 150 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: I think so, because you know, Shot kind of made 151 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: a pretty long term commitment. You know, it's a lucrative commitment. Obviously, 152 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,679 Speaker 1: Shot Contra has plenty of money, so I don't think 153 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: it was ever a matter really of the money. But 154 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, he made a long term commitment, and he 155 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: really thought this was the guy to shepherd his franchise 156 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:45,239 Speaker 1: into like a swing for the fences, didn't it? Yeah? 157 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: Like right, Like it was the superstar higher secured deeply 158 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: for players and people, and I want to see the 159 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: I believe there there's greatness in everyone. And you know, 160 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: he had lured this guy who had never come to 161 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: the NFL yet lured him into the NFL l And 162 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, yes, I think if this were strictly an 163 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: issue of the production. He would have said, you don't 164 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 1: blow it up after one year. You give it at 165 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: least two years. You don't want to blow it up 166 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: with a young quarterback. You've got to give them time 167 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: to develop together. But you know, on the football side 168 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: of it, like, I think it's sort of been alarming 169 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: that Trevor Lawrence has not been progressing large trying to 170 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: buy himself some time, takes his shot. He's got nickins, 171 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: but he has picked again intercepted by fire and I'll 172 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: just roll around and run out of the clock. And 173 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans have come to Jacksonville to what a 174 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: thirty two. I mean, this is the jewel of the 175 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: franchise and the fact that they are not have not 176 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: been able to develop him so far has to be 177 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: alarming to the folks on the football side. Yeah, you know, 178 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of interesting. Especially I think it was a 179 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: great point you made bringing up Trevor Lawrence and his 180 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: comment about James Robinson not being on the field, because 181 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: I wonder if that got the attention of ownership, like, Okay, 182 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, we drafted this guy with like supremely high 183 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: character who is a team first guy at all costs 184 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: and has always been and now we're seeing some dissent 185 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: here like that to me, like that's the alarm and 186 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 1: like everything should have been a red flag like all 187 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: of you know, like I think we're all acknowledging that, 188 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: right that all of this, there were troubling moments. But 189 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: to see someone who remember it was Trevor Lawrence who 190 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: had his coaches back like after the whole bye week incident, 191 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: right and which first of all, was just awful that 192 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback had to be put in that position right, 193 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: like right out of the gate, like welcome to the franchise. 194 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: You got to back up your your coach. You just 195 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: embarrassed himself. We've all had most of us have had 196 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: you know, separate conversations, individual one on one conversations with him, 197 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: and I think he's he's handled it well to this point. 198 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: Obviously it's not an easy situation and you don't want 199 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: to be in the situation. But I think he's done 200 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: right by us, And it was a good meeting this morning, 201 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: just upfront with us, apologized and you know, we're a team, 202 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: we're sticking together. I mean, that was just awful that 203 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,719 Speaker 1: he had to do it. But yeah, to me, what 204 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: you know, Trevor Lawrences, you pointed out like he's a 205 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: very mature guys. He's really responsible, he's very smart. He's 206 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: totally aware that he is the face of the franchise, 207 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: right and that like everybody is watching his every move 208 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: and parsing his words. He's very aware of his role. 209 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: And so when he said that in public, first of all, 210 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,599 Speaker 1: it made me think, like, what on earth of the 211 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: players saying in private? Right? If he actually came out 212 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: and said it in public, you know, other stuff is 213 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: happening in the background but we don't know about. And 214 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: then even this week, you know, it was after the 215 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: Lamba story happened, like he said, I think it was 216 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: yesterday or day before where he said, we can't keep 217 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: having this drama, like we've got to just be able 218 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: to play football. Obviously there's been a lot of drama, 219 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: like whatever has caused everything, who even knows at this point, 220 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: but there's been a lot of drama, and for me, 221 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: I think it's important to be truthful. That to me, 222 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, he's he's done right, Like and again, 223 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: for for a guy like Trevor Lawrence who was not 224 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 1: a troublemaker and not somebody to you know, air the 225 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: grievances in public. Like I thought that was a very 226 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: bad sign for urban Meyer. Great points like he was 227 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: brought in to define a culture, to redefine a culture, 228 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 1: and you bring it up in your piece on NFL 229 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: dot com. The own it phrase, right was stitched onto 230 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 1: golf shirts, as you say, painted on the walls, like 231 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: it was implored in everyone to be accountable. This city 232 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: of Jacksonville. When they see that Jaguar emblem, there's a 233 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: sense of pride and let's go, man, let's let's go. 234 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: That's that's I can see a fast team. I see 235 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: people that cared deeply about that organization. And the two 236 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: things I always talk about our inspire, our part of 237 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 1: inspiration or love and ownership. I want you to own it. 238 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: And if you don't want to do that, you can't, 239 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: you really can't be here and own own that emblem. 240 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: And then you've got all of these missteps along the 241 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: way that were, you know, in a lot of ways denied, 242 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: at least the most recent ones here from Urban Meyer 243 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: that are Tom Pellicero detailed that Josh Lambo detailed, and 244 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, in a sort of roundabout way owning up 245 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: to what happened in Columbus, but still the fact that 246 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: that had to be done as the leader of the 247 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 1: franchise just spelled, you know, issues from the very beginning. 248 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: And now as we get to the interim head coach 249 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: in Daryl Bevill jumping in now for the Jacksonville Jaguars, 250 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of interesting because there's a lot 251 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: of people out there that we're thinking, like, all right, 252 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: Urban hired these coaches, you know, and he put his 253 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: fingerprints all over this staff, and the coaches are getting 254 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: a lot of criticism for the way the offense is performed, 255 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: the way that Trevor Lawrence is underperformed in his first 256 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: season here. And now one of them is going to 257 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: be in charge of leading this franchise, and for the 258 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: first time in NFL history, Judy Daryl Bevel is going 259 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,680 Speaker 1: to be an interim head coach in back to back seasons. 260 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 1: He did, right, I mean, it's not exactly what you 261 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: want to throw on the on the resumes you handed 262 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: up to other other folks here, but he did this 263 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: last year and you know, the Lions actually came out 264 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: and played a really good game against the Chicago Bears 265 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: and his first game as the ENRA, Matthew Stafford had 266 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: his best game of the season. I'm wondering if now 267 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: we start to see it maybe urban Meyer had the 268 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: handcuffs on these guys in certain ways and how they 269 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: wanted to approach offense schematically and from a production standpoint. 270 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot to be learned in these 271 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: last four games about the imprint and the fingerprints that 272 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: Urban had on the coaches and their game plans. I agree, 273 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 1: and I and I also, I think it's going to 274 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how the players respond, right because 275 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: all the sort of reporting we've heard. Mike Garrefolo said, 276 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: you know, he's been getting texts from the agents who's right, 277 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: clients or expressing happiness that urban Meyer has gone. I 278 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: heard Sean O'Haras say last hour, maybe that locker room 279 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: is relieved. Sean, I can tell you absolutely they are. 280 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: I got an unsolicited text from an agent. I said, 281 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: I won't use your name, I won't say who the 282 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: players are, but I think it's important to relay this. 283 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: He said. Our firm represents multiple players on the Jaguars. 284 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: We texted them to let them know that he was 285 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 1: fired overnight, and we got the same reply back from 286 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: all of them that that was the reply, see you later, Rachel. 287 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: That's what that locker room is feeling right now. You know, 288 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: there was clearly dysfunction and discontent in the building and 289 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: among the players, and so I think it's going to 290 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: be interesting to see, like, how did the players come 291 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: out in the last month. Everybody knows it's right. Professional 292 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: athletes know this. They're playing for their jobs every day, 293 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: and they know there's going to be a new coaching staff. 294 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: Who knows will there be a new GM. I mean 295 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: Trent Balki is there, who knows how things change though 296 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 1: in the next few weeks. They're playing for their jobs 297 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: and you know, and they're gonna want to put good 298 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: stuff on tape for the next coach. Now, I mean 299 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: that doesn't apply to Trevor Lawrence Um, you know, and 300 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't apply to probably somebody like Josh Allen Um, 301 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: but it probably applies to almost everybody else on that roster. 302 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: So you know, they're gonna want to they're gonna want 303 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: to perform, and I'm curious to see if they're sort 304 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: of you know, light lighter in spirit when they come 305 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: out in the next few weeks. Yeah, I think we 306 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: see this a lot of times, right with a coaching 307 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: change in season, there's like there's an immediate like kind 308 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: of jolt of energy and inspiration even and like a 309 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: reinvigorating of the players as they have this new voice 310 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: and now they you know, they go out there and 311 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the times you see a win in 312 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 1: that first game, um, you know, And that's that's how 313 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: it went for Bevill last year with the lines won 314 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: the first game, lost the next four. 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Interim head coach for the final four 347 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: games will be Darryl Beville, but the search is on 348 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: now for owners Shot Khan to find the person to 349 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: lead this path forward for Jacksonville. And I think it's interesting, Judy, 350 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: you were just at the league meeting right where a 351 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 1: new rule has gone into effect, essentially allowing the Jaguars 352 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: here in a couple of weeks to get a jumpstart 353 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: on that process. Can you detail that for us? Well, 354 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: right now they could interview anybody who's not currently employed 355 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: by the NFL, right, I mean that they've already fired 356 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: their coach, So if they want to reach out to 357 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: a college coach or some you know, a former NFL 358 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: coach who's you know, currently on the sidelines, Yeah, they 359 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: can do that now. The new rule to tweet to 360 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: the runing rule says that with two weeks left in 361 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: the regular season, you can start putting in requests for 362 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: currently employed assistant coaches or coordinators. The current employer can 363 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 1: decline those requests. They would be virtual, they would be 364 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, zoom interviews. But you can start the process 365 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: and the thinking behind that in terms of the runing 366 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: rule and what they're hoping to accomplish. Is their hope 367 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: that will sort of slow down the process. Like one 368 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 1: thing everybody complained about is like, you know, black Monday 369 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: would happen, everybody would get fired and then it was 370 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: like a sprint, like you had to hire the guy immediately. 371 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: And so there's always been a feeling that like owners 372 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: don't slow down enough and like cast a wide enough 373 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: net and talk to enough people. Dan Rooney himself used 374 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: to complain about that all the time and implore his 375 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 1: fellow owners, like what are you rushing for, right, Like, 376 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: don't listen to the media, don't listen to fans. You 377 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: don't have to rush, take your time and talk to 378 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: a whole lot of guys. That's how he got Mike Tomlin, 379 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: which has worked out pretty well for the Steelers. So 380 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: so that's the idea behind this is to put more 381 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 1: time into the process and allow you access to more 382 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: people for a longer period of time. And the hope 383 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: is that you know, that gets more minority candidates. It 384 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,479 Speaker 1: gets more candidates period in front of the decision makers 385 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: who make the hires. One if you can say that 386 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: this was a good thing that came out of the 387 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: pandemic but one good thing that came out of the 388 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: pandemic during the hiring cycle is because all those interviews 389 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: had to be by zoom, you actually had time to 390 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,959 Speaker 1: do more interviews. So like a much wider array of 391 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: guys got interviewed by decision makers and that was good. Like, 392 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: that's part of what needs to happen to improve the 393 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: fortunes of minority candidates is you need to get them 394 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: in front of the decision makers. I just want to clarify. 395 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: You mentioned as an amendment to the to the Rooney 396 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: rule that coaches can now interview in the landscape of 397 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: the regular season if their teams allowed. That's not just 398 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: limited to minority candidates. Correct, that is all candidates, okay, 399 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: but but but hoping that that does have an effect 400 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: on the amount of minority candidates that do get consideration 401 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: all teams that have openings. A lot of the talk 402 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: is about, you know, the pipeline. There's plenty of good 403 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: coaches in the pipeline, but you know, it's incumbent on 404 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: the team that are seeking coaches to reach out to 405 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: them and to talk to them. And so the thought 406 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: is that this gives you a little more time to 407 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: do that. So I want to throw out a couple 408 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 1: of let's say, a framework for potential Jacksonville Jaguar's head coach. Here. 409 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: Stability one thing, right, it would be almost priority number 410 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: one here at this point. A steady hands, been there, 411 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: done that, no drama, steady hand credibility, a pedigree for 412 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: working with quarterbacks. Yes, their name that comes to mind, 413 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: that checks those boxes. That's actually currently available. Yeah. I 414 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: tweeted about this before, as have lots of our colleagues, 415 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: but like Jim Caldwell, Jim Caldwell, their former Occults and 416 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: former Reliance head coach, you know, checks all those boxes. 417 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: One reason why he came up is, first of all, 418 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 1: he is the steady of steady hands. That's he's a 419 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: great coach. Let's just start with the basins. Great coach, right. 420 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,080 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning would endorse him. Players play hard for him. 421 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,400 Speaker 1: That was always the best thing about Coach Dungee always does. 422 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: Every player played hard for him, and to me, that's 423 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: the best the quality that you want and a head 424 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 1: coach and coach Calwell I feel, has achieved that status 425 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: that players want to do well for him. Tony Dungee 426 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: would endorse him. But he is also, like you said, 427 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: he is of the highest character and of the steadiest hand. 428 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: And those have to be big considerations for the Jackson 429 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 1: Phil Chapoars even more than it would be for other teams. Right, 430 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:44,719 Speaker 1: the number one consideration has to be somebody who can 431 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: improve the culture in the building. And then of course 432 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: that's one and then one A has to be somebody 433 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: who can develop Trevor Lawrence. I mean that is on 434 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: the football side, the only thing that matters, Like, you 435 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: cannot waste this guy, and you know, and Jim called, well, 436 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: it's the bill there and he has proven like since 437 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 1: he was fired by Detroit, we see how very difficult 438 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: it is to win in Detroit. The Bears get a 439 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 1: game winner from Tyro Santos and they beat the Lions 440 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: sixteen fourteen AD for Detroit, the heartbreak continues. The Lions 441 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: now oh ten and one. He won in Detroit. Yeah, obviously, 442 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: you know he worked with Peig Manning. He won in Indianapolis, 443 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: so he's got a proven track record. I know that 444 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 1: he wants to coach in the NFL again. He'd like 445 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: another opportunity, So we'll see, but I think it's going 446 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: to be I think it should be somebody like that, right, 447 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: like of just unquestionable character and leadership ability. Leadership ability, yes, 448 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: and I should have mentioned that obviously, but it goes 449 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: with the stability and the credibility and the pedigree and 450 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: that that that's all kind of rolled into one there 451 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 1: and called will certainly fits the bill. A person who 452 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 1: has already gotten some consideration, at least from outside voices, 453 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:08,920 Speaker 1: is a former Jacksonville Jaguar's quarterback and a current offensive 454 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: coordinator for the best quarterback to ever play the game, 455 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: and that is Byron Leftwich and Tampa OC to Tom Brady, 456 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: super Bowl champion, the whole deal. Now here's the only 457 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 1: caveat there. And while he is probably and Bruce arians 458 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: has said as much, ready to be a head coach, 459 00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: I think he's everything everybody is supposedly looking for, you know, 460 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: a quarterback and play caller, and he's African Americans, So 461 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't allow you're looking for. He's a 462 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: great leader. I wonder that if in Jacksonville you do 463 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: want somebody who's been there and done it before. Although 464 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: I can certainly see all the reasons why Leftwich would 465 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,439 Speaker 1: fit the bill, and I think I think it's going 466 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: to be interesting because you know that typical pattern in 467 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: the NFL is like when you fire one coach, you 468 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: sort of swing completely in the opposite direction and go 469 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: for a guy who's different, which would actually make Byron 470 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: Leftwich like the obvious candidate, right, because sure, he's young. 471 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's an offensive coordinator, like, he hasn't coached 472 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: in college, he's a former NFL player, like, so that 473 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: would actually make some sense. I agree with you. I 474 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 1: think you know that's got to be a question of 475 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 1: do they want a more experienced hand given the multitude 476 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,440 Speaker 1: of issues in play in Jacksonville. I don't know, but 477 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, Byron left Which was a favorite son in Jacksonville. 478 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: They loved him there. Bruce arians has been saying that 479 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich has been ready to be a head coach 480 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 1: since they were an Amrizona so like and frankly, I 481 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 1: remember when Byron left Which was playing and people thought 482 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 1: highly of him when he was at the Steelers. I 483 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 1: mean people then were saying, this is a future head 484 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: coach guy. So he's been on the track. Obviously, working 485 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady is a tremendous thing to have on 486 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: your resume, and working with somebody like Bruce Arians is 487 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: a great thing to have on your resume. I think 488 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: Byron Left Which is going to get interest this year period, 489 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: so I think he'll be a he should be a 490 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: very Now the caveat there is like okay, like they're 491 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: going to be in the playoff hunt again, right, and 492 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: they're going to be on a deep playoff run. And 493 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: it felt like that was something that prevented him or 494 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: or was something that you know, was an obstacle to 495 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: finding those That's what learning rule tweak is also designed 496 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: to address, right that, like these guys who were you know, 497 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: you're on these super successful teams and you're sort of 498 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: that sort of means you're locked out, right, Like at 499 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: the Animy the same thing, right, you're sort of, yeah, 500 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: you're trapped. Um, this is an opportunity for them to 501 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: at least do a virtual interview early on if the 502 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: team allows it. And I mean it's hard for me 503 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: to imagine that Bruce Arians would deny Iron Left, which 504 00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: the opportunity to do an interview. That's a great point, 505 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,239 Speaker 1: especially the way he talked about it. As long as 506 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: does it you know, affect preparation and all that, And 507 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: I feel like it's a professional. It probably would not. 508 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: And for all of our loyal NFL Inside Report listeners, 509 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 1: some of these names probably sound familiar from an earlier 510 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: episode this week where we had Scott Paoli on detailing 511 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: the case for minority candidates like Jim Caldwell and like 512 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich. You look at all the coaches that were 513 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: given second chances, and then on this list you know 514 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: that I have here to It's Todd Bowles, It's Leslie 515 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: Frasier's Vans, Joseph Marvin Lewis, Raheem Morris, they were all. 516 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,239 Speaker 1: They all at one point in time did do a 517 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: good job in the when they were a head coaches. 518 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,360 Speaker 1: And there are many of them. And those are just two. 519 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: With the names many, many, many many. Jerry Gray was 520 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 1: one that Scott Poe talked about very favorably. Who's been 521 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: who's had some of those head coaching interviews. I think 522 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be Um. I'm interested to see what 523 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: shot Kant does and who is advising him right right? 524 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: The league wants him to get this right. Um. You know, 525 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: they don't want a franchise to be floundering year after 526 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: year after year, and so I always think especially for 527 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, for owners who are not steeped in the 528 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: football side, you know who not like the Rooneys and 529 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: the Marrors who have been around football their entire lives. 530 00:28:56,040 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: That the casks that like, it's always interesting, like who's 531 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: in their ear? I mean, who do they rely on 532 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: for advice? And you know, again, shotcomp was swinging for 533 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: the fences and thought he'd hit the Grand Slam getting 534 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: urban Meyer and a lot of other people did too, right, 535 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: like he was the big fish. And um, you know, 536 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: so I'm really curious to hear from Shot Coom when 537 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: he said he's not going to talk again until twenty 538 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: twenty two after the season, and so I am curious 539 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: to hear what he is looking for because that has 540 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: always been a thing, like can owners define what they 541 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: are looking for in their head coach? And shockingly few 542 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: of them can do that, you know, And that's always 543 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: been a problem with hiring because then they go with 544 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: sort of what the hot name is and who they 545 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: read about in the papers and who their friends tell them, 546 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, and that's that's doesn't work too often. No, 547 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: Now you're right, and you know the future of Trim 548 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: Bulky is a general manager beyond this season will certainly 549 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: play a role in how the leadership structure is going 550 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: forward there in Jacksonville. A lot to watch here down 551 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: in Duval County, especially over the course of these last 552 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: four games, with the coaches still on the staff, with 553 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: the players still on the roster, and then once the 554 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: regular season ends and the coaching carousel picks up once 555 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: again in the NFL. Judi Batista there to help us 556 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: with all of it. Check out her piece on NFL 557 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: dot com right now NFL dot com slash Batista for 558 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: the blow by blow on what went wrong in Jacksonville 559 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: with Urban Meyer. Thanks Judy, thanks for it. 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