WEBVTT - Big Citrus Energy

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where from now

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<v Speaker 1>on we'll be shouting Rocket Top.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever we sink a three.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday, December sixteenth, and on today's show, Alex, Meish

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<v Speaker 1>and I catch up on a big weekend of life

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<v Speaker 1>and sports. Alex talks Art, Meich talks progress, and some

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<v Speaker 1>slices share their holiday traditions. Plus we'll talk about ours too.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's time for the College Beb's Final Four. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all coming up right after this. Welcome back, slices, Happy Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what you need to know today.

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<v Speaker 2>To volleyball.

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<v Speaker 1>The final four is set Louisville, Pitt, Nebraska, and Penn State.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll meet next weekend in Louisville, Kentucky. Here's how they

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<v Speaker 1>got there. First, up, the hometown team Louisville, the number

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<v Speaker 1>one seeded Cardinals punch their ticket with the three set

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<v Speaker 1>to one win over nine time NCAA champ and second

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<v Speaker 1>seed Stanford. On Saturday, Louisville will meet fellow number one

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<v Speaker 1>seed and acc rival Pitt in the semi finals. This

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<v Speaker 1>will mark the third straight year Louisville and Pitt have

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<v Speaker 1>met in the Ncaattorney. Last year pitt defeated Louisville in

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<v Speaker 1>the Elite eight the year before. Louisville got the w

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<v Speaker 1>in the semifinals. Number one Nebraska also headed back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Final four after.

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<v Speaker 2>They swept Wisconsin on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Penn State earned the final spot with a win over Creighton,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning all four top seeded teams qualified for the Final four.

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<v Speaker 1>Final four gets underway on Thursday with back to back

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<v Speaker 1>semi finals at seven and nine thirty pm Eastern on ESPN.

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<v Speaker 1>National Championship game will be played on Sunday at three

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<v Speaker 1>pm Eastern on ABC. Have you been checking your brackets?

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<v Speaker 1>Producer Alex was in first at one point in the

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<v Speaker 1>good game of Sara Spain Group and I was looking

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<v Speaker 1>real rough, but I'm surging back, So check your brackets

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<v Speaker 1>see where you are.

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<v Speaker 2>There will be some trash talking that will take place.

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<v Speaker 1>To college hoops, Tennessee smashed a wild record on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lady Vols recorded thirty three pointers in their one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty nine to fifty nine win over North

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<v Speaker 1>Carolina Central. Yes, you've heard that correctly, one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty nine to fifty nine. That is an eighty point margin. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>not only is thirty, the NCAA record for most three

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<v Speaker 1>pointers in a game. It's also never been done in

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<v Speaker 1>the WNBA or NBA either. Samara Spencer led the way,

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<v Speaker 1>hitting nine threes, with eight of her teammates also recording

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<v Speaker 1>at least one three. Also in college hoops, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to tip our caps to the twenty fifth ranked Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>Tech team, who pulled off an eighty two seventy six

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<v Speaker 1>upset over number fourteen North Carolina on Sunday in Chapel Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>The wind brings the Yellow Jackets record to eleven and

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<v Speaker 1>oh good for the best start in school history. Head

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<v Speaker 1>coach Nel Fortner squad is one of nine unbeaten Division

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<v Speaker 1>One teams left across the country. So y'all might remember

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<v Speaker 1>last week's conversation about co ed adult sports leagues and

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<v Speaker 1>the etiquette code that we made with Josh Bart and

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<v Speaker 1>Klaan Conahan. While certified slice, Amanda Vaalo had a few

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<v Speaker 1>more suggestions. She emailed in and wrote in part, you

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<v Speaker 1>guys are doing a great job.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a huge podhead.

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<v Speaker 1>Podhead is what she said, and you've definitely made a

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<v Speaker 1>top spot in my listens. Here are my suggestions if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone is caught man splaining, they are assessed a foul.

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<v Speaker 1>If repeated, this can be upgraded to a flagrant and

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<v Speaker 1>the player can be asked to leave arena or playing

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<v Speaker 1>field immediately. Any jokester with a joke about playing shirts

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<v Speaker 1>versus skins must take a lap. If getting owned by

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<v Speaker 1>a badass woman, don't be lame in fake and injury.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks again for making my world and the world in

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<v Speaker 1>general a better place.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Amanda.

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<v Speaker 1>I was on date like number four with a guy

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<v Speaker 1>once and we were playing one on one basketball at

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<v Speaker 1>the gym and he full on one thousand percent absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>guaranteed faked and angle injury because I was whooping that

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<v Speaker 1>ass not attractive. We also had some friends on social

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<v Speaker 1>that chimed in with their additions to the etiquette code.

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<v Speaker 1>Dave on Blue Sky at DPS nine to five to

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<v Speaker 1>two said, if it's not a piece of advice you

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<v Speaker 1>would give to a male teammate on the bench between shifts,

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<v Speaker 1>slash plays, slash whatever, don't give it to your female

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<v Speaker 1>teammates unless they ask, I would add Doug Dennis on

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Sky set, if a girl kicks your ass, don't

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<v Speaker 1>be a whiss about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Buy her a beverage of her choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that addition, after somebody suggested to remember it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a game, Jamie Bartlett on Blue Sky added, my version

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<v Speaker 1>of this is you're not getting a scholarship today, Calm down,

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<v Speaker 1>or there are no scouts out here.

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<v Speaker 2>It works for all genders, big and small. I like

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<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, at that kraz On Blue Sky said, having seen

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<v Speaker 1>it happen, don't take it personally if you're guarded or

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<v Speaker 1>matched up with the player of the opposite gender. That

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<v Speaker 1>is so true, especially because you have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>that person did before they got to you. They might

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<v Speaker 1>be a d one superstar and you're throwing a fit

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<v Speaker 1>about it and you're about to get cooked by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>So thanks for all the thoughts on that. That was

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<v Speaker 1>fun to make with them. It made me miss being

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<v Speaker 1>able to play all that stuff. So if you are

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<v Speaker 1>still capable, if your body is still functioning enough, free

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<v Speaker 1>to play code adult sports, have fun with it, enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 1>I miss it all right. We're gonna take a quick

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<v Speaker 1>break when we come back. The Peals, the Grove Senior slices.

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<v Speaker 1>We're still working on her Navy Hall, still working on this,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to figure it out today, along with

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of other stuff coming up next stick around.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome Back Slices.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna let you behind the scenes for a minute

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<v Speaker 1>here and tell you that Alex, Mesh and I have

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<v Speaker 1>been all over the globe and back and we have

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<v Speaker 1>not really been together much at all for like a month,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to say, because it was like Spain and

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<v Speaker 1>Alex and I were there, and then it was Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City and Mesh and I were there, and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Alex went to freaking Machu Pichu. I'm so jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I went to Mirror Ball in Arizona, which

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<v Speaker 1>was a delight.

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<v Speaker 2>And now we're all back.

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<v Speaker 1>Together before we break again for Christmas and New Year's

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<v Speaker 1>and everything. So we wanted to take this opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>catch up on a bunch of stuff, sports and otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first thing is, well, really quick, Alex, can

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<v Speaker 1>you give us a highlight from Machu Pichu?

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<v Speaker 2>Because that is like top of my list right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually second's second on my list of where I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And it just looked magical from your Insta.

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<v Speaker 3>I loved it. I did the Inca trail. My highlight

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<v Speaker 3>was for sure. You wake up early the fourth morning,

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<v Speaker 3>you walk almost in the dark, and then you get

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<v Speaker 3>to the sun gate, which is the first place that

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<v Speaker 3>you can see Machu Pichu from and it's just this beautiful,

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<v Speaker 3>beautiful view.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was stunning. Highly recommend.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I feel like there was also like a babyl

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<v Speaker 1>packet involved, which I was also jealous about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so my hotel hired a babyl paka and I

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<v Speaker 3>guess the baby al pack is caretaker to come to

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<v Speaker 3>the hotel every morning to meet and greet.

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<v Speaker 4>Her name was ben Cheetah. She's eight months old.

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<v Speaker 3>She rides to work in a taxi and she was

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<v Speaker 3>lovely and soft and wore a very cute costume. And

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<v Speaker 3>then a few hours after that, I was outside on

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<v Speaker 3>the streets of Cusco with my friend Kate, and I

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<v Speaker 3>am somebody I have traveled a lot. I know that

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<v Speaker 3>when you get approached at the airport by a rando

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<v Speaker 3>offering you a free or cheap taxi, you say no,

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<v Speaker 3>like I know all the things.

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<v Speaker 4>But across the street.

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<v Speaker 3>From me, I see a woman carrying an even smaller

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<v Speaker 3>baby alpaca and I just light up when I see it,

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<v Speaker 3>and she sees my face and she b lines over

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<v Speaker 3>to me, and before I know it, she hands me

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<v Speaker 3>the baby alpaca and it's like, let me take a

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<v Speaker 3>photo with you and the baby alpaca, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, that's what I want. And then as soon

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<v Speaker 3>as she does, she's like, give me money, please, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, of.

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<v Speaker 2>Course, Yeah, she ain't raising that artpacka for free, Alex.

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<v Speaker 2>No she's not.

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<v Speaker 5>No, she's not.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had not had a Taurus mistake like that

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<v Speaker 3>in a very long time.

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<v Speaker 4>But super cute alpaka photo. Zero regrets.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say worth it. I'm gonna say worth it

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<v Speaker 2>on that one. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So the other thing I wanted to actually ask you

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<v Speaker 1>about was over the weekend, you did an art show,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think we've talked on this show at

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<v Speaker 1>all about your art. So unless people have gone diving

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<v Speaker 1>into your Instagram, which we don't normally list, they might

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<v Speaker 1>not know that you are a very talented and prolific artist.

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<v Speaker 2>So what did you sell? What was on the table?

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<v Speaker 2>How'd you do?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well, I'm going to back up for one second,

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<v Speaker 3>because this art show was at the Winnemore Center at

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<v Speaker 3>the University of New Hampshire, and this is a building

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<v Speaker 3>I grew up going to, and from the age of

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<v Speaker 3>four until I went to college, I went to almost

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<v Speaker 3>every single unh men's hockey game. Do not worry, I

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<v Speaker 3>talked to my parents all the time about how they

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<v Speaker 3>should have brought me to.

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<v Speaker 4>More women's hockey games. Yep, got it covered.

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<v Speaker 3>But up until probably like the age of six or seven,

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<v Speaker 3>I did not watch the hockey games. I had my

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<v Speaker 3>back to the ice and I did arts and crafts

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<v Speaker 3>the entire game, and one of my parents was always

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<v Speaker 3>on the lookout for flying puck to make sure that

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't going to bunk me in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Back of the head.

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<v Speaker 3>Eventually I started watching the hockey, but it was very,

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<v Speaker 3>very cool to be back in this same space, to

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<v Speaker 3>essentially be able to see my old seat from down

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<v Speaker 3>on the ice where I was selling my goods. It

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<v Speaker 3>was a super fun show. I make pressed flower lampshades.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my favorite thing to make. I grew all the

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<v Speaker 3>flowers in my garden and then I pressed them and

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<v Speaker 3>I apply them to lamp shade. And as somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>desperately waits for spring every year, they always bring me

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<v Speaker 3>some real nice joy and light in the thing in

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<v Speaker 3>the dark winter months.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I do love that like full circle moment of your

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<v Speaker 1>sitting in front of your table where the ice would

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<v Speaker 1>be and selling the arts and crafts that you grew

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<v Speaker 1>up starting to learn how to make like in the seats.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really cool.

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<v Speaker 5>I personally love the image of little Alex with their

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<v Speaker 5>back turn to the to the accident. It feels on rare,

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<v Speaker 5>but it also feels adorable. So that's yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>And I just need you guys to know.

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<v Speaker 3>A few months ago, I was also at UNH because

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<v Speaker 3>they hosted the women's Frozen four and I was determined,

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<v Speaker 3>I really want to learn how to knit, because knitting

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<v Speaker 3>is the one craft that you can do and watch

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<v Speaker 3>sports at the same time and like not have your

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<v Speaker 3>attention taken away from it. And so I was like

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<v Speaker 3>in between periods trying to teach myself how to knit,

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<v Speaker 3>but didn't go too well, so we're still working on

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<v Speaker 3>that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Alex is trying to combine her two loves at once.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not enough to do them separately. They need to

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<v Speaker 1>be done simultaneously. Also, Alex, if you ever write a

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<v Speaker 1>book about becoming like a famous sports analyst slash artist.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got the perfect little early metaphor of the day

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<v Speaker 1>you finally turned around toward the ice and embrace.

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<v Speaker 2>That you could love both crafts and sport. I love that. Well, congrats,

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<v Speaker 2>super fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very jealous every time I have the tiniest opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to do a craft or get back into art, it

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<v Speaker 1>is so calming and meditative, and I just don't do

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<v Speaker 1>it enough.

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<v Speaker 2>So whenever I see your posts, I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, Oh, Alex is out there mixing paints and doing

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<v Speaker 1>cool shit and I'm not doing that at all. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of cool shit, meche, I loved your Insta post about

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<v Speaker 1>watching progress in action. You're posting some of your work

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<v Speaker 1>from the Rising Media Stars group that you were a

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<v Speaker 1>part of, and we mentioned it a while back, but

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<v Speaker 1>remind everyone what it is and some of the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that you've sort of learned over the last couple of months.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I love talking about RMS now. So basically, it

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<v Speaker 5>is a nonprofit started by la China Robinson, a world

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<v Speaker 5>class broadcaster. She broadcasted the Olympics like women's basketball for

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<v Speaker 5>all of my life. She's amazing. But a nonprofit basically

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<v Speaker 5>set up to help early career broadcasters looking to get

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<v Speaker 5>into those kind of careers network and learn and connect

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<v Speaker 5>with the people in her network. So a couple of

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<v Speaker 5>weeks ago, we went back down to Atlanta for the

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<v Speaker 5>second time for like a two day intensive kind of vibe,

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<v Speaker 5>and the first day was covering the Atlanta Falcons versus

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<v Speaker 5>the Chargers game, which was nuts. That was my first

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<v Speaker 5>time ever doing football. I know football, but you know,

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<v Speaker 5>as a spectator, and so it was challenging in that way.

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<v Speaker 5>We had to do six different on camera hits, so

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<v Speaker 5>basically for folks who were not into broadcasts, like thirty

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<v Speaker 5>to forty five second, many stories about an aspect of

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<v Speaker 5>the game or the players, and she threw some surprises

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<v Speaker 5>in there. We had to do the press conference with

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<v Speaker 5>head coach Rohie Morris and Kirk Cousins who threw four

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<v Speaker 5>interceptions or in that game if you were watching it rough.

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<v Speaker 5>So that was the first day, and then the second

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<v Speaker 5>day we had about six hours of classroom sessions with

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<v Speaker 5>everybody from Ros gold On, Woude, Tarico Foster, brasby Amina Hussein,

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<v Speaker 5>who's the head of US Sports at Prime Video. Their

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<v Speaker 5>talent department which is insane to have that kind of connection.

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<v Speaker 5>And then we went to the Hawks game. The Hawks

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<v Speaker 5>played the New Orleans Pelicans, got to meet Swin Cash,

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<v Speaker 5>which everybody else nobody knew why I was so excited.

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<v Speaker 5>We all learned about her beforehand because the China gave

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<v Speaker 5>us an assignment, but as someone who grew up watching her,

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<v Speaker 5>it's stuff like that, Connections like that that this program

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<v Speaker 5>has been able to make for me and for other

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<v Speaker 5>folks and just super exciting. One of the hardest things

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<v Speaker 5>I've ever done, for sure, because I'm My aspirations are

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<v Speaker 5>in play by play and color commentary. So I got

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<v Speaker 5>the headset on and you can't see me for the

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<v Speaker 5>most part, but you know, doing stand ups, being in

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<v Speaker 5>front of the camera, getting used to doing that kind

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<v Speaker 5>of stuff. It's the challenge I wanted it to be

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<v Speaker 5>before I applied. So good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you guys don't follow me on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 1>They post the most adorable little clips and photos of

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<v Speaker 1>them doing the play by play. And I have promised

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<v Speaker 1>to turn you into a meme and I just haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had time. The aforementioned travels have gotten the way of

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<v Speaker 1>me turning you into a meme. But it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen meme worthy content, Yeah, for sure, and you and

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<v Speaker 1>I answer you and I had some good like bonding

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<v Speaker 1>conversations about doing hard stuff and microdosing failure and learning

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<v Speaker 1>how to get into stuff that scares you. So I

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<v Speaker 1>love that you're doing it, and I love that you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting so much out of it. So shouts still a

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<v Speaker 1>China Robinson. She's such a badass and it's helping out.

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<v Speaker 2>The next generation is just so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of the next generation, that's the next topic I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to get into. And you, the three of us

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<v Speaker 1>all like made the migration to Blue Sky around the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, and it was interesting that I still occasionally

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<v Speaker 1>will post on both Twitter and blue Sky, both because

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<v Speaker 1>there are still people that haven't made the move that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get to, and also like for social

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<v Speaker 1>questions and stuff. I still have so many more followers

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<v Speaker 1>there that I got a lot more back sometimes over

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<v Speaker 1>there than Blue Sky. But this was something I posted

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<v Speaker 1>about this next generation of superstars, and the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>the feedback I got on Blue Sky about what I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote and what I got on Twitter was night and

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<v Speaker 1>day and very illustrative of like what's going on in

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<v Speaker 1>those sites right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But I posted sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>I had been posting about the Notre Dame Yukon game

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<v Speaker 1>as it was going on, and posting about Hanna Hidalgo

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<v Speaker 1>cooking because she was going off, and also that she's

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<v Speaker 1>very entertaining. She did just about every different kind of

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<v Speaker 1>three celebration you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Across the course of that game.

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<v Speaker 1>She was super hyped, she was getting the crowd into it,

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<v Speaker 1>like she is definitely both a playmaker and an entertainer.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the game, I just wrote and

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<v Speaker 1>I said nice things about her play throughout. At the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the game, I said kind of just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of mad at Hannah Hidalgo for having problematic opinions and beliefs,

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<v Speaker 1>because I just want to enjoy watching her play so

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<v Speaker 1>bad and it kind of gets in the way. And

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<v Speaker 1>for those who don't remember from previous shows, Hannah reposted

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<v Speaker 1>Candice Owens on in saying that gay marriage is a sin.

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<v Speaker 1>She's also had some other posts allegedly from her father

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<v Speaker 1>who's a pastor, saying similar things.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's especially.

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<v Speaker 1>Complicated and fraught in women's college basketball, where a high

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of players are queer, and the women's sports space

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<v Speaker 1>where fans and players and people who she will be

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<v Speaker 1>working with and playing with and against will probably have

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on her opinions about their life and their love.

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<v Speaker 1>And that was not to say I hate Hanna Hidalgo,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was not to say she can't grow and evolve,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was not to say that a nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old is a finished product. It was just to say

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<v Speaker 1>it gets in the way, like when she's being real swaggy.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of my usual feeling for extremely swaggy women players,

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<v Speaker 1>where I'm like, yes, I love this, it's tinged with

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<v Speaker 1>like damn it, yeah, Like I don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>want swaggy from someone with those beliefs about people and

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<v Speaker 1>their love and who they are and their identities.

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<v Speaker 2>It makes me sad instead of wanting to root her on.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's complicated and a lot of people could separate

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<v Speaker 1>those and everybody on Twitter wanted to tell me how

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<v Speaker 1>fucked up and stupid I am forgiven a shit and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm terrible and you're an old lady and she doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>give a fuck about you, and I'm like great, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>And then on Blue Sky, it was almost entirely people

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<v Speaker 1>who were like, totally get it, it's really hard, or

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm a queer woman and I'm trying to watch

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoy and it's really difficult for me to feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that and blah blah blah. So I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>ask y'all how you deal with that, because I've always

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<v Speaker 1>been my main thing is obviously people will be able

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<v Speaker 1>to separate or not. But like, let's say I'm listening

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<v Speaker 1>to music from somebody who is no longer with us

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<v Speaker 1>and they were proven later to be problematic, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going to go out and buy it. If it's on

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<v Speaker 1>I might still enjoy it, and if it's extreme, like

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<v Speaker 1>r Kelly, I don't even enjoy it anymore because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't not think about it. Right. If it's an athlete

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<v Speaker 1>and they're part of a team, I might still try

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<v Speaker 1>to root for the team and not the athlete in particular,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's a larger thing. And if it's an individual,

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<v Speaker 1>it is difficult for me to root for them in

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<v Speaker 1>the moment that they're playing, because then I'm actively rooting

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<v Speaker 1>for them while knowing.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's who were what they are.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels different for me than like some musician that

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<v Speaker 1>died fifty years ago and you find out that they

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<v Speaker 1>were trash and I've always liked their music. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that sucks. I don't know, and I'm not making equivo.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not equivocating to get myself off the hook. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just my natural sort of like gut.

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<v Speaker 2>Niche. How do you handle it?

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<v Speaker 5>It's so extremely tough, and you already kind of mentioned

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<v Speaker 5>the caveat that means the most to me, which is

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<v Speaker 5>Hannah Hidalgoes nineteen twenty. And I know from personal experience, right,

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<v Speaker 5>because I believe it or not, Folks, there was a

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<v Speaker 5>point in time where everybody in the world thought I

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<v Speaker 5>was straight and baby that closet was glass, you know

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<v Speaker 5>what I mean. Not to say that, not to say

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<v Speaker 5>that it's the same situation for Hannah, because I don't

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<v Speaker 5>know her life or nothing like that. I just say

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<v Speaker 5>that to say that was a product of the things

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<v Speaker 5>that I had heard and taken in and it took

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<v Speaker 5>me a long time to sort through that and make

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<v Speaker 5>truth out of that. And so I say that to say,

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<v Speaker 5>like Hannah hopefully has wnba aspirasus, I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 5>the track. Where's it's safe enough to say we're looking

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<v Speaker 5>at a league of players who are in gay marriages,

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<v Speaker 5>who are getting proposed and hope to be in gay

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<v Speaker 5>marriages and a very fraught time in our country's history

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<v Speaker 5>in terms of you know, queer rights and things. So

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<v Speaker 5>my hope is that she's gonna move on to have

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<v Speaker 5>conversations with people around her that changed kind of her worldview, right,

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<v Speaker 5>that changed the way she feels about things. But that aside,

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<v Speaker 5>if it happens, if it doesn't in this current moment, yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>it's really hard to be like, damn, I freaking love

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<v Speaker 5>it in her dollgoes game like she Caitlin Clark last year,

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<v Speaker 5>Like they said, something on fire inside me as somebody

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<v Speaker 5>who loves the game of basketball to see the level

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<v Speaker 5>of competitiveness and just balls to the wall. I don't

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<v Speaker 5>care what happens. I don't give a about you or

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<v Speaker 5>the rest of your team. That she has in her

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<v Speaker 5>it is very hard to separate that out. But my

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<v Speaker 5>saving grace is that she is a kid, and I

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<v Speaker 5>do have hope for her future that you know, somebody

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<v Speaker 5>will get in her ear and be like, baby girl,

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<v Speaker 5>we know what you've been told, but it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>different than the life that you walk. If you end

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<v Speaker 5>up being in the w or what have.

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<v Speaker 3>You Alex, Yeah, I think I want to step back

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<v Speaker 3>for a second because something that I think we probably

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<v Speaker 3>all agree happens a lot in society right now, is

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<v Speaker 3>this villainization of someone at the first sign of something.

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<v Speaker 4>And Hannah reshared.

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<v Speaker 3>A video in which someone else said gay marriage is

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<v Speaker 3>a sin. And I'm not making that distinction to let

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<v Speaker 3>Hannah off the hook or to say that those aren't

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<v Speaker 3>her thoughts, because if she's reposting it, those are probably

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<v Speaker 3>her thoughts what I wish would happen, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think has happened. But has anyone asked Hannah about this,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think sometimes what happens is there's not kind

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<v Speaker 3>of this check and balance system that happens in a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of other arenas, right like if a politician or

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<v Speaker 3>other public figure says something that's controversial, usually there is

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<v Speaker 3>a follow up of clay rrifying or asking for more detail.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't feel like that's happened with her. And

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<v Speaker 3>I think it even gets back to Sarah the conversation

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<v Speaker 3>that you had with Alexa a couple of weeks ago

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<v Speaker 3>about some of the other complicated topics and just the

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<v Speaker 3>lack of reporters in this space and how much there

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<v Speaker 3>is to cover, So not saying that to let Hannah

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<v Speaker 3>off the hook. I just sometimes worry about what happens

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<v Speaker 3>when we kind of come to conclusions based on one thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That being said, I do think it makes it harder

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<v Speaker 3>to root for her on the court. But am I

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<v Speaker 3>rooting for her to continue to grow and change and develop.

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<v Speaker 1>Off of it, absolutely, and rooting to keep watching her

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<v Speaker 1>be amazing because it's great basketball and I would never

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<v Speaker 1>not want that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just complicated, it's not as easy. And I completely

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we have similar thoughts about Corbin Albert, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think you can have really thoughtful conversations about how

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a young person and you've been raised with

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<v Speaker 1>a certain belief system, it is very hard to break

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<v Speaker 1>out of your family systems and the expectation and say

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<v Speaker 1>have for your beliefs.

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<v Speaker 2>It is very hard, especially early on when.

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<v Speaker 1>You've just left your family home, to change your mind

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<v Speaker 1>about stuff like that. And that's why it's not that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mad at her or I dislike her. It's that

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard for me because it makes me sad. I

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<v Speaker 1>want her to be able to evolve her viewpoints and

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<v Speaker 1>hold both things. If she wants to that she can

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<v Speaker 1>be religious and spiritual, and she can believe in other

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<v Speaker 1>people living their own truth and.

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<v Speaker 2>Identity and be happy about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think your example is very true about sports, Like

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:34.359
<v Speaker 1>there's people like Sophie Cunningham that continue to confuse a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. The Phoenix Mercury player that, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the Internet and lots of allegations, she can't beat the

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<v Speaker 1>rep that she's like a conservative Trump supporting whatever, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet she's like bff with all of her teammates. They

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<v Speaker 1>seem to embrace and love her so much. And how's

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<v Speaker 1>that working? Like what's going on behind the scenes that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not sure of? And I wish we could have

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<v Speaker 1>more open conversations with those players, And you know, maybe that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of our responsibility with this shit. Maybe we should

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<v Speaker 2>be having them on and asking them.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think also the reporters that are covering these

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<v Speaker 1>teams regularly and the teams themselves, if there is an

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<v Speaker 1>intention to be more transparent about what's going on, then

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<v Speaker 1>do it. You know, that's been my complaint with Corbin Albert.

0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I respect that Emma Hayes wants to do the calling

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<v Speaker 1>in instead of the calling out and work with her.

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<v Speaker 1>But if all of the things she's said have been public,

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<v Speaker 1>then all of the work she's doing can't be private.

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<v Speaker 2>We need to have a little bit of it out.

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<v Speaker 1>For us to see and witness in order to believe

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<v Speaker 1>that there's work going on. And I guarantee you probably

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<v Speaker 1>not as many listeners of our shol though it's possible

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 1>that there are plenty, would be in their heads arguing

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<v Speaker 1>with us about they're allowed to believe whatever they want.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't about everyone agreeing this is sports.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do think when it's what's at issue is

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<v Speaker 1>people's fundamental rights and who they are. It is very

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<v Speaker 1>difficult for me to reconcile that if I was alongside

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<v Speaker 1>a teammate or someone that I had to work with

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<v Speaker 1>regularly and they did not fundamentally believe that I could

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<v Speaker 1>love who I wanted to love and be who I am,

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<v Speaker 1>it would make it hard.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what it comes down. Yeah, that's what it comes

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<v Speaker 5>down to for me, because the first thing I remember

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<v Speaker 5>when I saw that she had reshared that that posted

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<v Speaker 5>Candice owns, and the first thing I was thinking, is, damn,

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:14.000
<v Speaker 5>I if she's got a teammate, If she's got a

0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:17.479
<v Speaker 5>coach if she's anybody who's directly in that network who

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<v Speaker 5>saw that post.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's where I say, I hope conversations are being

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<v Speaker 5>right as opposed to just silos. People are continuing to

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<v Speaker 5>stand in their own silos and nothing ever changes. Yeah, tough,

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<v Speaker 5>though tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we just left that tough conversation for an even

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:34.360
<v Speaker 1>tougher one.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys, we have to pick our name.

0:23:37.040 --> 0:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Putting this off for weeks, we just gotta get We

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.520
<v Speaker 1>just gotta like start to you know, what's the what's

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the saying when you're when you're writing and you have

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:50.439
<v Speaker 1>to do some tough edits kill your darlings.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to figure out how to kill our darlings.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of these names are cute, some of them are

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<v Speaker 1>close but not quite right. We just got to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of them. Here are the ones that I think

0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:02.520
<v Speaker 1>we sort of narrowed it down to. Some people want

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<v Speaker 1>to call us coach. It feels it feels right. We're

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<v Speaker 1>telling them good game. At the end, we're handing them

0:24:06.920 --> 0:24:10.480
<v Speaker 1>orange slices. Some of us want us to be senior slices,

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<v Speaker 1>which in my head I keep saying senior slice because

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<v Speaker 1>I picture like a little slice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's Spanish speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're not seniors, so it doesn't really make sense,

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<v Speaker 1>and none of you probably want to be just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>the only one that's a senior citizen, so you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be known as a senior slice.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we get a discount?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, AARP for orange slices. We got good gamers,

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<v Speaker 1>And when we were naming our slices, we said, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't like gamers. The associations come along with, like the

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<v Speaker 1>video gaming and gamer gait and whatever. We never thought

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that was quite right. We got good sports, which is good.

0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>We got peels, which is good. We're sort of on

0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.879
<v Speaker 1>the outside holding all the slices together. We got orange blossoms,

0:24:49.880 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 1>which are beautiful and a great smell. We've got the grove,

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<v Speaker 1>which is sort of the headquarters where all the orange

0:24:56.280 --> 0:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>slices originate. We've got Slice HQ, which is a headquarters

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<v Speaker 1>for the slices. What do we feel and what are

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:05.199
<v Speaker 1>we thinking? What's standing out to you? I told you

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<v Speaker 1>my choice is the grove. I do like the grove.

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<v Speaker 5>It makes for me a it has to make logical sense,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think that still makes sense with the slices. Yeah,

0:25:13.920 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 5>the slice has to become whole before it to be okay, fine,

0:25:16.680 --> 0:25:22.520
<v Speaker 5>but grove makes sense. The rest of these flowers are cute.

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<v Speaker 5>I like orange blossoms, but like, ah, it's not an

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. It doesn't feel sports related enough to me.

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:30.800
<v Speaker 5>The grove still feels like it could be the name

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<v Speaker 5>of a bar, or like, I don't know, something like

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<v Speaker 5>that senior slice. I'm gonna let you have that one

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:39.439
<v Speaker 5>old hit. You got it, od good gamers. I do

0:25:39.480 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 5>feel the same way about that. Gamers leave that alone.

0:25:42.400 --> 0:25:43.280
<v Speaker 2>Appeals to me.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to be appeal Like, appeal is something

0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:50.679
<v Speaker 5>that you do to exfoliate. Appeal is something you discard.

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 5>I don't know about that.

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, appeal is not the part of the I mean,

0:25:54.080 --> 0:25:56.159
<v Speaker 1>you can use an orange rine for recipes, but appeal

0:25:56.200 --> 0:25:58.240
<v Speaker 1>is usually not the part of the orange you're looking for. Yes,

0:25:58.400 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>so it seems like we don't want to be the

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<v Speaker 1>part you pe off in discard.

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<v Speaker 4>But the way you described it, Sarah, you are like,

0:26:04.160 --> 0:26:08.640
<v Speaker 4>we hold all the slices together. That's such a nice.

0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:09.639
<v Speaker 2>But so does the grove.

0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, the grove is where all the slices hang,

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 1>and like where it all originates. Yea, yeah, and I

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>don't want to ruin the association, but you might be

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that the grove sounds sporty like a sports bar

0:26:23.480 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>because it's the name of ole Miss Tailgates, the tail

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<v Speaker 1>gate at the Grove.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you've ever heard of that.

0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 5>But that just sounds like a bar that would exist

0:26:32.560 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 5>in DC somewhere.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it sounds like when we.

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<v Speaker 1>Continue our general worldwide and international takeover, we will have

0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:46.120
<v Speaker 1>grove franchise bars all the world where orange slices come

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:47.680
<v Speaker 1>together to watch women's sports.

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:50.800
<v Speaker 2>Sorry, Jenny Winn of the Sports Bra, we're clearly.

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Stealing your idea and then franchising it everywhere. The only

0:26:55.160 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>problem with the grove is is like, are we in

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<v Speaker 1>the grove the grove like we here at the grove

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<v Speaker 1>at the grove, or are we.

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 2>The grove where the trees?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's what I like. Trees and plants. You know,

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.719
<v Speaker 5>that's my ship. So if I can be a plant,

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:15.639
<v Speaker 5>I'll be the plant. And that's a grove. Let me

0:27:15.800 --> 0:27:16.840
<v Speaker 5>let's I'm googled.

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<v Speaker 3>It reminds me of an animal name, you know, like

0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 3>a pod of dolphins, you know, tree.

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>A murder of crows and unkindness of ravens.

0:27:28.880 --> 0:27:29.400
<v Speaker 2>That's real.

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, grove, I'm looking at pictures of groves right now

0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:36.720
<v Speaker 5>that I mean, you're calming. It's quite. It's quite calming.

0:27:36.960 --> 0:27:38.280
<v Speaker 5>It's quite, it's quite relaxing.

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:43.719
<v Speaker 1>So are we each individually a grove and are the grove?

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:44.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.639
<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, Well, now I'm thinking of like big Florida

0:27:47.880 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 3>Energy and like the orange juice industry, and whether or

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:54.120
<v Speaker 3>not we have fair labor practices and are ethically treating

0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:54.879
<v Speaker 3>our farmers.

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:59.280
<v Speaker 1>And we do not want Big Florida Energy. If there's

0:27:59.320 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>anything we don't want, it's Big Florida Energy.

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:04.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, we don't want to be accused of

0:28:04.440 --> 0:28:05.400
<v Speaker 2>being big centrist.

0:28:11.960 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 5>Oh well, have we met an impasse? Here? Are we?

0:28:15.960 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 2>All right?

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:21.879
<v Speaker 1>I think our brainstorming out loud will perhaps inspire some thoughts,

0:28:22.560 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and this way we can kick it down the road

0:28:24.840 --> 0:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>a little bit longer.

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:27.680
<v Speaker 2>So we're kicking the can down the road.

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:33.640
<v Speaker 1>We are tentatively hovering around the grove. But if someone

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 1>were to swoop in with like just a no brainer

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:40.560
<v Speaker 1>that we missed, we will consider it. But we promise

0:28:40.720 --> 0:28:44.840
<v Speaker 1>by the end of this week we will definitively, just

0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>pick something and stick with it.

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:51.920
<v Speaker 4>That's it until we change it. We're allowed to change n.

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:55.080
<v Speaker 2>We change it and evolve, just like Cana Hidalgo.

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:57.000
<v Speaker 5>We have commitment issues soon.

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, last thing, my fellow growth first grover.

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<v Speaker 4>Now now I already hate it.

0:29:03.240 --> 0:29:06.400
<v Speaker 2>Now we're a muppet. Holiday traditions.

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>After the break, we're going to chat about some great

0:29:08.520 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 1>traditions from our slices. So I want to see if

0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 1>either of y'all have holiday traditions around this time of year.

0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 3>So my family, we always put up candles in every window.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice and a few years ago, speaking to arts and crafts,

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:26.920
<v Speaker 3>I've found these old candles that my grandfather, who I

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.280
<v Speaker 3>never met he died before I was born, had made.

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 3>And you know how, like old wiring, you probably shouldn't

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 3>plug in if you want to prevent fires. Sure, all

0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:40.320
<v Speaker 3>of the wires were like super exposed and dangerous.

0:29:40.600 --> 0:29:44.160
<v Speaker 4>So I learned how to rewire them, and I remade

0:29:44.160 --> 0:29:46.520
<v Speaker 4>these candles so that we.

0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:50.280
<v Speaker 3>Mostly have the new plastic candles, but we do have

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 3>the one old wooden candle that my grandfather made, and

0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.040
<v Speaker 3>every year when I see it, it makes me very happy.

0:29:55.400 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Alex Is full of skills and crafts and abilities that are.

0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 3>Just about the time I fix the refrigerator.

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>She's an electrician, she's a producer, she's an editor, she's.

0:30:10.600 --> 0:30:17.160
<v Speaker 5>A Crafter's like, you're the personification of that bag that hermione. Nope,

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:19.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to make the Harry Potter reference. Actually

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.120
<v Speaker 5>get leave it alone. But if you know what I'm

0:30:22.160 --> 0:30:24.240
<v Speaker 5>talking about, you know what I'm talking about. I know

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 5>what you're talking about. Traditions. I don't really have a

0:30:29.040 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 5>lot of them. My family's big on Kwanza, but we

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 5>kind of do it our own way. We don't do

0:30:33.280 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 5>it during the actual days of Kwanza. It's usually actually

0:30:35.720 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 5>around the Martin Luther King Junior Holiday, which okay, just

0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:43.360
<v Speaker 5>a little Jones spin on it. But personally, one thing

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:46.760
<v Speaker 5>that I really do a lot, not even just during

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 5>the end of the year of the holidays, is I'm

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:52.400
<v Speaker 5>big on writing. I have a journal. I've always had

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 5>a journal. It's how I like to process things. I

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:57.400
<v Speaker 5>was an only child coming up, so that's kind of

0:30:57.960 --> 0:30:58.560
<v Speaker 5>just how.

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 2>It worked for The journal is my friend.

0:31:00.240 --> 0:31:04.040
<v Speaker 5>My journal is literally my journal and namesake. We were

0:31:04.080 --> 0:31:08.120
<v Speaker 5>locked in a real bad but so towards the end

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.360
<v Speaker 5>of the year, I write down stuff I want to

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 5>let go of. A lot of people probably do this,

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 5>write it all down, sit with it for however long

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 5>I feel like I really need to sit with it.

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:19.240
<v Speaker 5>And then I burn it in a small controlled fire

0:31:19.960 --> 0:31:20.160
<v Speaker 5>and it.

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Caused by your grandfather's candle. Yeah, but that's I love that.

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.000
<v Speaker 1>When I was just at mirror Ball, I did a

0:31:29.000 --> 0:31:33.720
<v Speaker 1>presentation for all our retreaters about mindfulness and neuroplasticity and

0:31:33.800 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>how you manifest things using actual science, not.

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 5>So time out. Time out. You went on vacation and

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:41.120
<v Speaker 5>you gave a but.

0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:43.040
<v Speaker 1>It was like a retreat that I was running, so

0:31:43.080 --> 0:31:46.160
<v Speaker 1>it was like a vacation. But I also participated by

0:31:46.240 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 1>leading this lecture. And I'm really interested in manifestation and

0:31:50.520 --> 0:31:52.880
<v Speaker 1>neural plasticity because people always say, oh, yeah, you asked the.

0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Universe for it and then it gives to you when

0:31:54.640 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>you rub your crystals.

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And that's fine if that's your thing. But I'm not

0:31:57.480 --> 0:32:00.160
<v Speaker 1>super woo like that. I like the sciencey side, So

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:02.600
<v Speaker 1>meish if you ever want to talk offline about both

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 1>the things you want to leave behind and either habit

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.160
<v Speaker 1>changes or things you want to bring into your life

0:32:06.160 --> 0:32:08.200
<v Speaker 1>and the actual science way that you can change your

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 1>habits and behaviors over time. It only takes twenty one

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>days to change your thoughts, in only sixty six days

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 1>to make them automatic if you are consistent and committed

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:18.120
<v Speaker 1>and you use the principles of neuroplasticity.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyway, that's off topic. I have many traditions. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>only going to share a couple.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys can't see how how she's smiling right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I just like love Christmas so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>I love traditions, and I'm basically like I never was

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<v Speaker 1>in a sorority because no, thank you, but if I was,

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 1>I would have been social chair. And I'm basically social

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>chair for my giant like friend group. And it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a constant stream of me making people wear different outfits

0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:43.360
<v Speaker 1>and go to different things and have the time of

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. As far as I'm concerned, I don't need

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:46.520
<v Speaker 1>to hear otherwise if they're not having the time of

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<v Speaker 1>their lives. But one of my traditions is our annual

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Christmas tree hunt. So my parents have a place in Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>about ninety minutes outside Chicago, and every year, usually the

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<v Speaker 1>week after Thanksgiving so people can do Thanksgiving with family,

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>we go to this Christmas tree farm. Well, first we

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<v Speaker 1>go to big, like boozy lunch, and then we go

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<v Speaker 1>to this Christmas tree farm and we take a horse

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<v Speaker 1>drawn thing out to the field and you walk around

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<v Speaker 1>and find your tree and cut it down yourself with

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<v Speaker 1>a saw and then bring it back on the horse

0:33:11.440 --> 0:33:14.720
<v Speaker 1>drawn thing and have all the like spice nuts and

0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 1>hot chocolate and stuff like that. Then we would usually

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<v Speaker 1>go to a winery or somewhere in town and like

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<v Speaker 1>keep hanging out, come back to my parents' house, have

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<v Speaker 1>a big, huge pot luck where we cooked all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of things, and then play a bunch of board games

0:33:25.000 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and sleepover and come back the next day. There was

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<v Speaker 1>a tree hunt running for like I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe eleven years. This year I had to take a

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<v Speaker 1>pause because I was out of town. But we're back

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<v Speaker 1>at it next year on the tree hunt. Also, I

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<v Speaker 1>hate late Thanksgiving because it just like slows everything down,

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<v Speaker 1>and then if you wait a week after Thanksgiving, suddenly

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 1>your tree isn't into like December tenth. Okay, my other

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<v Speaker 1>big tradition actually just happened this past weekend. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>Fletch Navidad. This is our annual Christmas party, plus my

0:33:50.680 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 1>dog Fletch's birthday. He turned thirteen at the end of November,

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<v Speaker 1>so this was the twelfth annual Fletch Navidad. This year's

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<v Speaker 1>theme was Liffletcher die Hard. And every year you can

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<v Speaker 1>wear costumes, you can wear ugly sweaters, you could just

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>be festive, and every year people get more and more

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>involved because they know that we're going to like bring it.

0:34:08.880 --> 0:34:10.799
<v Speaker 1>So this year, my husband, who's six ' five was

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<v Speaker 1>Elf on a shelf, just a giant ass Elf that

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.840
<v Speaker 1>we were placing in places. And then I was basically

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<v Speaker 1>the Zoe da Chanel Elf from the movie Elf, with

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<v Speaker 1>like the little I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think her name's Dobe or Dobby or whatever.

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Nobody didn't ever really call her by her name, and

0:34:25.280 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 1>cute little pink and red little Elf outfit. And we

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<v Speaker 1>always have I make a game using these solo cups

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 1>that look like a Christmas tree, and then they have

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>tissue paper covering. I mean, you have to come up

0:34:36.000 --> 0:34:38.719
<v Speaker 1>and punch through and whatever's inside you have to do

0:34:39.239 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>or eat or drink or whatever. So a lot of

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:45.439
<v Speaker 1>times it's mellort shots. That's Chicago this year, there's also

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 1>like some dramatic readings where you had to read like

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 1>one of the famous scenes from like National Lampoon, like

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:53.840
<v Speaker 1>why is the carpet wet Todd I don't know, Margo

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>or things like that. And then we also have a

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 1>dance off with the animatronic Santa that they chances that

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:05.280
<v Speaker 1>gets real nasty Santa just gets torqued one for twenty

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 1>minutes straight and he never said, Oh, I.

0:35:07.560 --> 0:35:08.920
<v Speaker 5>Thought it was a nasty Santa.

0:35:08.960 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 4>You're saying people get.

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<v Speaker 2>Nasty with no.

0:35:10.640 --> 0:35:12.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean, he is a nasty Santa by the end

0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 1>of it. There's no way he can escape. Oh he

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:17.000
<v Speaker 1>is complicit and everything that happens to him, I've never

0:35:17.080 --> 0:35:20.200
<v Speaker 1>once seen him stop dancing or walk away, so consensual

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm concerned. And then this year I

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<v Speaker 1>also invented another malort related game where I changed all

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<v Speaker 1>the lyrics to Santa claus Is coming to Town to

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Milert Clauses coming to town, and then throughout when I

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<v Speaker 1>handed out pieces of paper to six people who had

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:35.359
<v Speaker 1>to sing it, and then different parts of the song,

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.279
<v Speaker 1>it would say something that would mean that they had

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<v Speaker 1>to take a Milert shot.

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:42.080
<v Speaker 2>So I'm a benevolent Milert fairy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm mostly gentle, but I wouldn't be a real Chicago

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.359
<v Speaker 1>And if I didn't write actual Christmas carols about lort

0:35:49.480 --> 0:35:51.600
<v Speaker 1>and force people to drink it. So those are my

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<v Speaker 1>two main Oh, and I have a third one I

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:56.359
<v Speaker 1>forgot really quick. So then also a couple of days

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:58.800
<v Speaker 1>after Christmas, when all the tourists are out of Chicago

0:35:58.880 --> 0:36:01.640
<v Speaker 1>and there's like a million pop up bars and beautifully

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.399
<v Speaker 1>decorated hotels and places, we do holiday day.

0:36:04.440 --> 0:36:04.919
<v Speaker 2>Oh fun.

0:36:05.440 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>Now this is where when all the tourists are gone,

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<v Speaker 1>we do a full day again in sort of festive attire,

0:36:12.040 --> 0:36:14.919
<v Speaker 1>and we go to a handful of different like deck

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.560
<v Speaker 1>pop up bars or other Christmas things. We go curling,

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>and then usually start with like a big meal and stuff,

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>and then we get to go around the city after

0:36:23.239 --> 0:36:25.440
<v Speaker 1>like most of the tourists are gone and still experience

0:36:25.520 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>the festive joy of the holidays.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow, that was that feels like a so much love

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 5>and work Welcome to my life. That is gonna be

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<v Speaker 5>on my grapestone.

0:36:40.400 --> 0:36:43.040
<v Speaker 4>So much love and work Spain.

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<v Speaker 1>Always tied together pretty much though, I'm like, I'll put

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<v Speaker 1>in the work because it's for love and I love

0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:50.640
<v Speaker 1>bringing people together and having fun.

0:36:50.760 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>So that is why I love the holidays.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we gotta take a break, but when we come back,

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<v Speaker 1>Supermarket sweep meets white Elephant. Yes, this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite traditions from you slices, So stick around, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back everybody. As you heard before the break, I love

0:37:13.600 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the holidays. I'm such a sucker for Christmas, and I

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 1>love seeing all the trees in people's windows. I love

0:37:18.360 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>the music and the decorations. I love how all the

0:37:20.080 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 1>stores and everything feels so welcoming. And I love to

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<v Speaker 1>hear about all of your unique and special traditions.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks to all.

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<v Speaker 1>Of you for sending them in, and thanks to all

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<v Speaker 1>of you for responding on social. Here were a few

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 1>of the favorites that I saw so Dana og on

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Sky said, tacky ornament exchange. This year I got

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<v Speaker 1>pickless cage. Yeah, I just want you to know the

0:37:41.120 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 1>picture is as amazing as you're imagining pickless cage. Tracy

0:37:46.440 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Lynch on Blue Sky said, I never put names on

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<v Speaker 1>the wrapped presence that appear on Christmas Morning.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:52.879
<v Speaker 2>Each GIF tag has a code name.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the only one with the code and the kids

0:37:55.080 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 1>try to crack the code. By the time all the

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 1>gifts are opened, I switch the code every year.

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<v Speaker 2>They love it. That's really I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Tracy brent Sheppard on Blue Sky. In a tradition begun

0:38:04.040 --> 0:38:06.799
<v Speaker 1>the first holiday we spent together, my ex and I

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.600
<v Speaker 1>still call each other late Christmas Eve for our annual

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:13.080
<v Speaker 1>reading of the David Sedara short story Dinah the Christmas Whore.

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<v Speaker 1>This will be year eighteen and I can almost make

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<v Speaker 1>it through the whole story without breaking. First of all,

0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 1>I love this because it's non traditional and now I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go read Dineah the Christmas Horror. But also

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>because I love the idea that you've been doing this

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<v Speaker 1>for eighteen years and this is now an X and

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.600
<v Speaker 1>whoever y'all are with now, if you're with, everyone is like,

0:38:30.680 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 1>oh there they go in the middle of Christmas Eve

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<v Speaker 1>to go call their X and read a short story together.

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<v Speaker 2>You sound healed therapy works.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Kate w on Blue Sky said, we do

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<v Speaker 1>a special pie based friends giving where the entire meal

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.920
<v Speaker 1>is a variety of pies, savory and sweet, so you

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:50.839
<v Speaker 1>can do dinner pie course followed by dessert pies. Every

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>family brings at least two pies, but there's always an

0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 1>overachiever with a bonus pie.

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<v Speaker 2>It's incredible. That sounds magical. Please invite me.

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<v Speaker 1>Kate jack Orian and his kids put out and rearranged

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>the holiday Gremlins like Elf on a shelf, but with gremlins.

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Mish has no idea what the gremlins are, but me,

0:39:07.800 --> 0:39:10.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a movie, you know. Don't feed them after midnight,

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<v Speaker 1>don't get water on them, etc.

0:39:11.480 --> 0:39:12.040
<v Speaker 2>And so forth.

0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Stuart Wexler still gives his fourteen year old son at

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<v Speaker 1>least one unwrapped gift under the tree to prove that

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:21.640
<v Speaker 1>Santa brought it, which is adorable. My mother still signs

0:39:21.680 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>at least one or two gifts from Santa to my

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>sister and me, despite our age, which is adorable.

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Justin Baird on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I was a kid, my mom got burned

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<v Speaker 1>out having to host and cook food for both Thanksgiving

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 1>and Christmas. So we collectively agreed we'd rather have homemade

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>pizzas when we got together for Christmas. So everyone picks

0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 1>their toppings and we trade slices. That sounds delightful and

0:39:44.320 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 1>very Chicago.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

0:39:45.960 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Justin at the Vague Queen on Twitter for generations, our

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 1>family has done tree gifts. At the end of the day,

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.360
<v Speaker 1>we'll go to the Christmas tree and find small gifts

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 1>hidden in the tree and open them over dessert. Many

0:39:57.320 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>family engagements have capped off Christmas Day.

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<v Speaker 2>That is adorable.

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Except one year I was looking inside my tree and

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>I saw this weird looking like nest circle thing, and

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I posted it and it turned out it was actually

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:15.799
<v Speaker 1>a eggsack, and I luckily got it out of the

0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:21.840
<v Speaker 1>house before thousands of tiny little tree spiders hatched in

0:40:21.920 --> 0:40:24.680
<v Speaker 1>my house. So I hope when you're searching your tree

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 1>for little gifts you never find an eggsack instead of

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.439
<v Speaker 1>an engagement ring as song as you don't, that's cute.

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Cute tradition.

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<v Speaker 1>Narcoleptic moth Man says, Christmas Eve, we hand out one

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:37.319
<v Speaker 1>gift which our pajamas to.

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<v Speaker 2>Wear that night and during Christmas Morning.

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>I love this one because I love a matching family

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<v Speaker 1>PJ set and it is very rare that I can

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<v Speaker 1>get my family to do it. But a couple of

0:40:45.320 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 1>years I did, and I made my dad in his

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:49.319
<v Speaker 1>seventies wear the same outfit as a two year old,

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and it was so delightful for me and my family's

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:54.680
<v Speaker 1>all very tall, so they never fit us, and it's

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:56.120
<v Speaker 1>still very fun and cute.

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:57.120
<v Speaker 2>So I love that tradition.

0:40:58.000 --> 0:41:01.080
<v Speaker 1>John Robertson from Insta said, my wife's family does and

0:41:01.239 --> 0:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>has had traditions for years. A Jimmy fallon game night,

0:41:05.520 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 1>we do drinko eggreu lette, and a lip sync battle

0:41:08.680 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>all on Christmas Eve. And this year my family is

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:14.439
<v Speaker 1>performing I'm Just Ken and the Bye Bye Bye song

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:18.840
<v Speaker 1>from the Deadpool versus Wolverine opening scene. People go all out.

0:41:19.080 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I wish my family would do this. I'm going to

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:23.080
<v Speaker 1>try to start to convince my family to this. I

0:41:23.120 --> 0:41:26.879
<v Speaker 1>am really the performer of the family shocker. I don't

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 1>know if they would want to, but I used to

0:41:28.440 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>love watching the family dance wars between some of the

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Dancing with the Stars folks. I don't know if you

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:34.319
<v Speaker 1>remember this, Maybe like a decade ago they started to

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 1>go viral where they would do dance wars and like

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:38.400
<v Speaker 1>send them back to each other via Instagram video.

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:39.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:41:39.360 --> 0:41:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think my family's going to want to do it,

0:41:41.080 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 1>but I would like that, so that might be one

0:41:43.960 --> 0:41:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that I steal.

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:45.560
<v Speaker 2>That's really cute.

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:47.920
<v Speaker 1>My favorite one of all though, which I'm definitely gonna steal.

0:41:48.280 --> 0:41:50.879
<v Speaker 1>Comes from my friend Aaron Ryder on Instagram, and her

0:41:50.880 --> 0:41:53.280
<v Speaker 1>tradition takes place in a mall or a shopping center.

0:41:53.600 --> 0:41:56.800
<v Speaker 1>So she said, quote, it's a real time white Elephant.

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:59.320
<v Speaker 2>We get a bit tipsy and people pick numbers.

0:41:59.520 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 1>The first off of the group goes shopping for twenty

0:42:01.680 --> 0:42:04.040
<v Speaker 1>five minutes with twenty five dollars and comes back with

0:42:04.120 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>things in a bag. The next group shops and then

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like white Elephant rules with stealing and such. So

0:42:09.520 --> 0:42:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I say, it's a matchup of white Elephant and shop

0:42:11.680 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 1>till you drop or supermarket sweep.

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 2>We started it in La at the Grove. It's a sign.

0:42:17.800 --> 0:42:19.800
<v Speaker 1>We started in La at the Grove in two thousand

0:42:19.800 --> 0:42:22.440
<v Speaker 1>and nine it was called the Grovy Games, and now

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<v Speaker 1>in Nashville it's the Opry Reindeer Games.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can do it at any shopping area. That

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<v Speaker 2>sounds super fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I love White Elephant, but the idea of the pressure

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<v Speaker 1>of like running around them all trying to find a

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<v Speaker 1>good white Elephant gift and coming back and playing super fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to everybody for sharing.

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<v Speaker 1>I love, love love hearing about all the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>or start new traditions. And there are a few in

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<v Speaker 1>there that I might steal. And you, of course are

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to steal Fletch Navidad. Even if you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a dog named Fletch, you could still do it. As always,

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<v Speaker 1>rate and review. It's easy watch gingerbread Houses rating five

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<v Speaker 1>out of five gum drops review, what other dessert makes

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<v Speaker 1>you want to pack up a suitcase and move in.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlike every other dessert inspired item out there, it somehow

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter how it tastes. Gum drops, after all, are

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<v Speaker 1>reliably disgusting, especially the green ones, and no one wants

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<v Speaker 1>to chomp into some stale gingerbread that's been sitting out

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<v Speaker 1>for a couple of weeks, especially after the family dog

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<v Speaker 1>has taken a bite actual lived experience here, or the

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<v Speaker 1>family cat has rubbed up against it, leaving behind a

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<v Speaker 1>few stray furs, actual alex.

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<v Speaker 2>Lived experience there.

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<v Speaker 1>All that matters is that it looks delightful, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>enough for us. Shout out to my hobby Brad, who

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<v Speaker 1>last year had an Actual Food Network gingerbread show competitor

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<v Speaker 1>make a perfect gingerbread replica of our house, right down

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<v Speaker 1>to the Christmas decorations on the fence out front and

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<v Speaker 1>a light up tree inside. Plus there were little doghouses

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<v Speaker 1>on the side for our pups and that happened to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of the dogs eight. Anyway, I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>keep that gingerbread house alive forever. It was such a

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