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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where from now

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Speaker 1: on we'll be shouting Rocket Top.

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Speaker 2: Whenever we sink a three.

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Speaker 1: It's Monday, December sixteenth, and on today's show, Alex, Meish

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Speaker 1: and I catch up on a big weekend of life

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Speaker 1: and sports. Alex talks Art, Meich talks progress, and some

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Speaker 1: slices share their holiday traditions. Plus we'll talk about ours too.

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Speaker 1: And it's time for the College Beb's Final Four. It's

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Speaker 1: all coming up right after this. Welcome back, slices, Happy Monday.

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Speaker 1: Here's what you need to know today.

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Speaker 2: To volleyball.

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Speaker 1: The final four is set Louisville, Pitt, Nebraska, and Penn State.

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Speaker 1: We'll meet next weekend in Louisville, Kentucky. Here's how they

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Speaker 1: got there. First, up, the hometown team Louisville, the number

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Speaker 1: one seeded Cardinals punch their ticket with the three set

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Speaker 1: to one win over nine time NCAA champ and second

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Speaker 1: seed Stanford. On Saturday, Louisville will meet fellow number one

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Speaker 1: seed and acc rival Pitt in the semi finals. This

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Speaker 1: will mark the third straight year Louisville and Pitt have

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Speaker 1: met in the Ncaattorney. Last year pitt defeated Louisville in

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Speaker 1: the Elite eight the year before. Louisville got the w

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Speaker 1: in the semifinals. Number one Nebraska also headed back to

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Speaker 1: the Final four after.

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Speaker 2: They swept Wisconsin on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Penn State earned the final spot with a win over Creighton,

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Speaker 1: meaning all four top seeded teams qualified for the Final four.

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Speaker 1: Final four gets underway on Thursday with back to back

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Speaker 1: semi finals at seven and nine thirty pm Eastern on ESPN.

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Speaker 1: National Championship game will be played on Sunday at three

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Speaker 1: pm Eastern on ABC. Have you been checking your brackets?

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Speaker 1: Producer Alex was in first at one point in the

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Speaker 1: good game of Sara Spain Group and I was looking

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Speaker 1: real rough, but I'm surging back, So check your brackets

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Speaker 1: see where you are.

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Speaker 2: There will be some trash talking that will take place.

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Speaker 1: To college hoops, Tennessee smashed a wild record on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: The Lady Vols recorded thirty three pointers in their one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty nine to fifty nine win over North

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Speaker 1: Carolina Central. Yes, you've heard that correctly, one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty nine to fifty nine. That is an eighty point margin. Now,

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Speaker 1: not only is thirty, the NCAA record for most three

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Speaker 1: pointers in a game. It's also never been done in

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Speaker 1: the WNBA or NBA either. Samara Spencer led the way,

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Speaker 1: hitting nine threes, with eight of her teammates also recording

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Speaker 1: at least one three. Also in college hoops, we got

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Speaker 1: to tip our caps to the twenty fifth ranked Georgia

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Speaker 1: Tech team, who pulled off an eighty two seventy six

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Speaker 1: upset over number fourteen North Carolina on Sunday in Chapel Hill.

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Speaker 1: The wind brings the Yellow Jackets record to eleven and

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Speaker 1: oh good for the best start in school history. Head

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Speaker 1: coach Nel Fortner squad is one of nine unbeaten Division

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Speaker 1: One teams left across the country. So y'all might remember

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Speaker 1: last week's conversation about co ed adult sports leagues and

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Speaker 1: the etiquette code that we made with Josh Bart and

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Speaker 1: Klaan Conahan. While certified slice, Amanda Vaalo had a few

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Speaker 1: more suggestions. She emailed in and wrote in part, you

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Speaker 1: guys are doing a great job.

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Speaker 2: I'm a huge podhead.

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Speaker 1: Podhead is what she said, and you've definitely made a

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Speaker 1: top spot in my listens. Here are my suggestions if

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Speaker 1: anyone is caught man splaining, they are assessed a foul.

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Speaker 1: If repeated, this can be upgraded to a flagrant and

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Speaker 1: the player can be asked to leave arena or playing

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Speaker 1: field immediately. Any jokester with a joke about playing shirts

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Speaker 1: versus skins must take a lap. If getting owned by

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Speaker 1: a badass woman, don't be lame in fake and injury.

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Speaker 1: Thanks again for making my world and the world in

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Speaker 1: general a better place.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Amanda.

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Speaker 1: I was on date like number four with a guy

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Speaker 1: once and we were playing one on one basketball at

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Speaker 1: that chimed in with their additions to the etiquette code.

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Speaker 1: Dave on Blue Sky at DPS nine to five to

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Speaker 1: two said, if it's not a piece of advice you

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Speaker 1: slash plays, slash whatever, don't give it to your female

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Speaker 2: Buy her a beverage of her choice.

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Speaker 1: Love that addition, after somebody suggested to remember it's just

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Speaker 1: a game, Jamie Bartlett on Blue Sky added, my version

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Speaker 2: It works for all genders, big and small. I like

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Speaker 1: Finally, at that kraz On Blue Sky said, having seen

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Speaker 1: that person did before they got to you. They might

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Speaker 1: So thanks for all the thoughts on that. That was

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Speaker 1: to play code adult sports, have fun with it, enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: I miss it all right. We're gonna take a quick

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Speaker 1: break when we come back. The Peals, the Grove Senior slices.

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Speaker 1: We're still working on her Navy Hall, still working on this,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to figure it out today, along with

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Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff coming up next stick around.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back Slices.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you behind the scenes for a minute

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Speaker 1: here and tell you that Alex, Mesh and I have

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Speaker 1: been all over the globe and back and we have

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Speaker 1: I want to say, because it was like Spain and

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Speaker 1: Alex and I were there, and then it was Kansas

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Speaker 2: Alex went to freaking Machu Pichu. I'm so jealous.

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Speaker 1: And then I went to Mirror Ball in Arizona, which

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Speaker 2: And now we're all back.

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Speaker 1: Together before we break again for Christmas and New Year's

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Speaker 1: And the first thing is, well, really quick, Alex, can

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Speaker 1: you give us a highlight from Machu Pichu?

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Speaker 2: Because that is like top of my list right now.

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Speaker 1: It's actually second's second on my list of where I

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Speaker 3: I loved it. I did the Inca trail. My highlight

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Speaker 2: So it was stunning. Highly recommend.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I feel like there was also like a babyl

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Speaker 3: Yes, so my hotel hired a babyl paka and I

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Speaker 4: Her name was ben Cheetah. She's eight months old.

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Speaker 3: She rides to work in a taxi and she was

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Speaker 4: But across the street.

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Speaker 2: Course, Yeah, she ain't raising that artpacka for free, Alex.

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Speaker 5: No, she's not.

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Speaker 3: And I had not had a Taurus mistake like that

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Speaker 4: But super cute alpaka photo. Zero regrets.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna say worth it. I'm gonna say worth it

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Speaker 1: So the other thing I wanted to actually ask you

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Speaker 2: So what did you sell? What was on the table?

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Speaker 3: Eventually I started watching the hockey, but it was very,

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 1: I do love that like full circle moment of your

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Speaker 2: That's really cool.

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Speaker 5: I personally love the image of little Alex with their

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Speaker 5: back turn to the to the accident. It feels on rare,

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Speaker 4: And I just need you guys to know.

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Speaker 3: is to cover, So not saying that to let Hannah

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00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 3: off the hook. I just sometimes worry about what happens

440
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,160
Speaker 3: when we kind of come to conclusions based on one thing.

441
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 3: That being said, I do think it makes it harder

442
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,680
Speaker 3: to root for her on the court. But am I

443
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 3: rooting for her to continue to grow and change and develop.

444
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: Off of it, absolutely, and rooting to keep watching her

445
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,600
Speaker 1: be amazing because it's great basketball and I would never

446
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,440
Speaker 1: not want that.

447
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:43,240
Speaker 2: It's just complicated, it's not as easy. And I completely

448
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:43,880
Speaker 2: agree with you.

449
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,800
Speaker 1: I think we have similar thoughts about Corbin Albert, and

450
00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: I think you can have really thoughtful conversations about how

451
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 1: when you're a young person and you've been raised with

452
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: a certain belief system, it is very hard to break

453
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 1: out of your family systems and the expectation and say

454
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 1: have for your beliefs.

455
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 2: It is very hard, especially early on when.

456
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 1: You've just left your family home, to change your mind

457
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,679
Speaker 1: about stuff like that. And that's why it's not that

458
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,159
Speaker 1: I'm mad at her or I dislike her. It's that

459
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: it's hard for me because it makes me sad. I

460
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,719
Speaker 1: want her to be able to evolve her viewpoints and

461
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: hold both things. If she wants to that she can

462
00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 1: be religious and spiritual, and she can believe in other

463
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: people living their own truth and.

464
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Speaker 2: Identity and be happy about it.

465
00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 1: I think your example is very true about sports, Like

466
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: there's people like Sophie Cunningham that continue to confuse a

467
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 1: lot of people. The Phoenix Mercury player that, according to

468
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 1: the Internet and lots of allegations, she can't beat the

469
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: rep that she's like a conservative Trump supporting whatever, and

470
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 1: yet she's like bff with all of her teammates. They

471
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: seem to embrace and love her so much. And how's

472
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 1: that working? Like what's going on behind the scenes that

473
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: we're not sure of? And I wish we could have

474
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: more open conversations with those players, And you know, maybe that's.

475
00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 2: Part of our responsibility with this shit. Maybe we should

476
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 2: be having them on and asking them.

477
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,240
Speaker 1: But I think also the reporters that are covering these

478
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 1: teams regularly and the teams themselves, if there is an

479
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: intention to be more transparent about what's going on, then

480
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: do it. You know, that's been my complaint with Corbin Albert.

481
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: I respect that Emma Hayes wants to do the calling

482
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: in instead of the calling out and work with her.

483
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: But if all of the things she's said have been public,

484
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 1: then all of the work she's doing can't be private.

485
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 2: We need to have a little bit of it out.

486
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: For us to see and witness in order to believe

487
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,120
Speaker 1: that there's work going on. And I guarantee you probably

488
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,320
Speaker 1: not as many listeners of our shol though it's possible

489
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: that there are plenty, would be in their heads arguing

490
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: with us about they're allowed to believe whatever they want.

491
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: This isn't about everyone agreeing this is sports.

492
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 1: But I do think when it's what's at issue is

493
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: people's fundamental rights and who they are. It is very

494
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Speaker 1: difficult for me to reconcile that if I was alongside

495
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,000
Speaker 1: a teammate or someone that I had to work with

496
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 1: regularly and they did not fundamentally believe that I could

497
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Speaker 1: love who I wanted to love and be who I am,

498
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: it would make it hard.

499
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Speaker 5: That's what it comes down. Yeah, that's what it comes

500
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 5: down to for me, because the first thing I remember

501
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,119
Speaker 5: when I saw that she had reshared that that posted

502
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 5: Candice owns, and the first thing I was thinking, is, damn,

503
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 5: I if she's got a teammate, If she's got a

504
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 5: coach if she's anybody who's directly in that network who

505
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 5: saw that post.

506
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

507
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 5: And that's where I say, I hope conversations are being

508
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 5: right as opposed to just silos. People are continuing to

509
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 5: stand in their own silos and nothing ever changes. Yeah, tough,

510
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,880
Speaker 5: though tough.

511
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: Okay, we just left that tough conversation for an even

512
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:34,360
Speaker 1: tougher one.

513
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 2: You guys, we have to pick our name.

514
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 1: Putting this off for weeks, we just gotta get We

515
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: just gotta like start to you know, what's the what's

516
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: the saying when you're when you're writing and you have

517
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 1: to do some tough edits kill your darlings.

518
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 2: We have to figure out how to kill our darlings.

519
00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 1: Some of these names are cute, some of them are

520
00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,240
Speaker 1: close but not quite right. We just got to get

521
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: rid of them. Here are the ones that I think

522
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: we sort of narrowed it down to. Some people want

523
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,120
Speaker 1: to call us coach. It feels it feels right. We're

524
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 1: telling them good game. At the end, we're handing them

525
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: orange slices. Some of us want us to be senior slices,

526
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: which in my head I keep saying senior slice because

527
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: I picture like a little slice.

528
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: That's that's Spanish speaking.

529
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 1: But we're not seniors, so it doesn't really make sense,

530
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,640
Speaker 1: and none of you probably want to be just I'm

531
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 1: the only one that's a senior citizen, so you don't

532
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 1: want to be known as a senior slice.

533
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 4: Can we get a discount?

534
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, AARP for orange slices. We got good gamers,

535
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: And when we were naming our slices, we said, we

536
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: don't like gamers. The associations come along with, like the

537
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 1: video gaming and gamer gait and whatever. We never thought

538
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: that was quite right. We got good sports, which is good.

539
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 1: We got peels, which is good. We're sort of on

540
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: the outside holding all the slices together. We got orange blossoms,

541
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 1: which are beautiful and a great smell. We've got the grove,

542
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: which is sort of the headquarters where all the orange

543
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 1: slices originate. We've got Slice HQ, which is a headquarters

544
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,719
Speaker 1: for the slices. What do we feel and what are

545
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: we thinking? What's standing out to you? I told you

546
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,000
Speaker 1: my choice is the grove. I do like the grove.

547
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 5: It makes for me a it has to make logical sense,

548
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 5: and I think that still makes sense with the slices. Yeah,

549
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 5: the slice has to become whole before it to be okay, fine,

550
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 5: but grove makes sense. The rest of these flowers are cute.

551
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 5: I like orange blossoms, but like, ah, it's not an

552
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 5: I don't know. It doesn't feel sports related enough to me.

553
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 5: The grove still feels like it could be the name

554
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,239
Speaker 5: of a bar, or like, I don't know, something like

555
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 5: that senior slice. I'm gonna let you have that one

556
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 5: old hit. You got it, od good gamers. I do

557
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 5: feel the same way about that. Gamers leave that alone.

558
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 2: Appeals to me.

559
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 5: I don't want to be appeal Like, appeal is something

560
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,679
Speaker 5: that you do to exfoliate. Appeal is something you discard.

561
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 5: I don't know about that.

562
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, appeal is not the part of the I mean,

563
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,159
Speaker 1: you can use an orange rine for recipes, but appeal

564
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: is usually not the part of the orange you're looking for. Yes,

565
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: so it seems like we don't want to be the

566
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: part you pe off in discard.

567
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 4: But the way you described it, Sarah, you are like,

568
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 4: we hold all the slices together. That's such a nice.

569
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: But so does the grove.

570
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the grove is where all the slices hang,

571
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: and like where it all originates. Yea, yeah, and I

572
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 1: don't want to ruin the association, but you might be

573
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 1: thinking that the grove sounds sporty like a sports bar

574
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 1: because it's the name of ole Miss Tailgates, the tail

575
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: gate at the Grove.

576
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever heard of that.

577
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 5: But that just sounds like a bar that would exist

578
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 5: in DC somewhere.

579
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it sounds like when we.

580
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Continue our general worldwide and international takeover, we will have

581
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 1: grove franchise bars all the world where orange slices come

582
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: together to watch women's sports.

583
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: Sorry, Jenny Winn of the Sports Bra, we're clearly.

584
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 1: Stealing your idea and then franchising it everywhere. The only

585
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: problem with the grove is is like, are we in

586
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: the grove the grove like we here at the grove

587
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: at the grove, or are we.

588
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: The grove where the trees?

589
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I like. Trees and plants. You know,

590
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,719
Speaker 5: that's my ship. So if I can be a plant,

591
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 5: I'll be the plant. And that's a grove. Let me

592
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 5: let's I'm googled.

593
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: It reminds me of an animal name, you know, like

594
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: a pod of dolphins, you know, tree.

595
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: A murder of crows and unkindness of ravens.

596
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 2: That's real.

597
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, grove, I'm looking at pictures of groves right now

598
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 5: that I mean, you're calming. It's quite. It's quite calming.

599
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: It's quite, it's quite relaxing.

600
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,719
Speaker 1: So are we each individually a grove and are the grove?

601
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah?

602
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 3: Well yeah, Well, now I'm thinking of like big Florida

603
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 3: Energy and like the orange juice industry, and whether or

604
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 3: not we have fair labor practices and are ethically treating

605
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 3: our farmers.

606
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: And we do not want Big Florida Energy. If there's

607
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: anything we don't want, it's Big Florida Energy.

608
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 2: Oh my god, we don't want to be accused of

609
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 2: being big centrist.

610
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 5: Oh well, have we met an impasse? Here? Are we?

611
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 2: All right?

612
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: I think our brainstorming out loud will perhaps inspire some thoughts,

613
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: and this way we can kick it down the road

614
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: a little bit longer.

615
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: So we're kicking the can down the road.

616
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: We are tentatively hovering around the grove. But if someone

617
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: were to swoop in with like just a no brainer

618
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: that we missed, we will consider it. But we promise

619
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: by the end of this week we will definitively, just

620
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: pick something and stick with it.

621
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 4: That's it until we change it. We're allowed to change n.

622
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 2: We change it and evolve, just like Cana Hidalgo.

623
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 5: We have commitment issues soon.

624
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: Okay, last thing, my fellow growth first grover.

625
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: Now now I already hate it.

626
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: Now we're a muppet. Holiday traditions.

627
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: After the break, we're going to chat about some great

628
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: traditions from our slices. So I want to see if

629
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: either of y'all have holiday traditions around this time of year.

630
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

631
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: So my family, we always put up candles in every window.

632
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: Nice and a few years ago, speaking to arts and crafts,

633
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: I've found these old candles that my grandfather, who I

634
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 3: never met he died before I was born, had made.

635
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: And you know how, like old wiring, you probably shouldn't

636
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: plug in if you want to prevent fires. Sure, all

637
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: of the wires were like super exposed and dangerous.

638
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 4: So I learned how to rewire them, and I remade

639
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 4: these candles so that we.

640
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 3: Mostly have the new plastic candles, but we do have

641
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: the one old wooden candle that my grandfather made, and

642
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 3: every year when I see it, it makes me very happy.

643
00:29:55,400 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: Alex Is full of skills and crafts and abilities that are.

644
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 3: Just about the time I fix the refrigerator.

645
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: She's an electrician, she's a producer, she's an editor, she's.

646
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 5: A Crafter's like, you're the personification of that bag that hermione. Nope,

647
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 5: I don't want to make the Harry Potter reference. Actually

648
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 5: get leave it alone. But if you know what I'm

649
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 5: talking about, you know what I'm talking about. I know

650
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 5: what you're talking about. Traditions. I don't really have a

651
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 5: lot of them. My family's big on Kwanza, but we

652
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 5: kind of do it our own way. We don't do

653
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 5: it during the actual days of Kwanza. It's usually actually

654
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 5: around the Martin Luther King Junior Holiday, which okay, just

655
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 5: a little Jones spin on it. But personally, one thing

656
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 5: that I really do a lot, not even just during

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Speaker 5: the end of the year of the holidays, is I'm

658
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Speaker 5: big on writing. I have a journal. I've always had

659
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Speaker 5: a journal. It's how I like to process things. I

660
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Speaker 5: was an only child coming up, so that's kind of

661
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Speaker 5: just how.

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Speaker 2: It worked for The journal is my friend.

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Speaker 5: My journal is literally my journal and namesake. We were

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Speaker 5: locked in a real bad but so towards the end

665
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Speaker 5: of the year, I write down stuff I want to

666
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Speaker 5: let go of. A lot of people probably do this,

667
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Speaker 5: write it all down, sit with it for however long

668
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 5: I feel like I really need to sit with it.

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Speaker 5: And then I burn it in a small controlled fire

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Speaker 5: and it.

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Speaker 2: Caused by your grandfather's candle. Yeah, but that's I love that.

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Speaker 1: When I was just at mirror Ball, I did a

673
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Speaker 1: presentation for all our retreaters about mindfulness and neuroplasticity and

674
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Speaker 1: how you manifest things using actual science, not.

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Speaker 5: So time out. Time out. You went on vacation and

676
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Speaker 5: you gave a but.

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Speaker 1: It was like a retreat that I was running, so

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Speaker 1: it was like a vacation. But I also participated by

679
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Speaker 1: leading this lecture. And I'm really interested in manifestation and

680
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Speaker 1: neural plasticity because people always say, oh, yeah, you asked the.

681
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Speaker 2: Universe for it and then it gives to you when

682
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Speaker 2: you rub your crystals.

683
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Speaker 1: And that's fine if that's your thing. But I'm not

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Speaker 1: super woo like that. I like the sciencey side, So

685
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 1: meish if you ever want to talk offline about both

686
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 1: the things you want to leave behind and either habit

687
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: changes or things you want to bring into your life

688
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: and the actual science way that you can change your

689
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Speaker 1: habits and behaviors over time. It only takes twenty one

690
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Speaker 1: days to change your thoughts, in only sixty six days

691
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Speaker 1: to make them automatic if you are consistent and committed

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Speaker 1: and you use the principles of neuroplasticity.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, that's off topic. I have many traditions. I'm

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Speaker 2: only going to share a couple.

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Speaker 5: You guys can't see how how she's smiling right now?

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Speaker 1: I know, I just like love Christmas so much, and

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Speaker 1: I love traditions, and I'm basically like I never was

698
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Speaker 1: in a sorority because no, thank you, but if I was,

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00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: I would have been social chair. And I'm basically social

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Speaker 1: chair for my giant like friend group. And it's just

701
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Speaker 1: a constant stream of me making people wear different outfits

702
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: and go to different things and have the time of

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Speaker 1: their lives. As far as I'm concerned, I don't need

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Speaker 1: to hear otherwise if they're not having the time of

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Speaker 1: their lives. But one of my traditions is our annual

706
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: Christmas tree hunt. So my parents have a place in Michigan,

707
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Speaker 1: about ninety minutes outside Chicago, and every year, usually the

708
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: week after Thanksgiving so people can do Thanksgiving with family,

709
00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: we go to this Christmas tree farm. Well, first we

710
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: go to big, like boozy lunch, and then we go

711
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: to this Christmas tree farm and we take a horse

712
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: drawn thing out to the field and you walk around

713
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 1: and find your tree and cut it down yourself with

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Speaker 1: a saw and then bring it back on the horse

715
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 1: drawn thing and have all the like spice nuts and

716
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,480
Speaker 1: hot chocolate and stuff like that. Then we would usually

717
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: go to a winery or somewhere in town and like

718
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: keep hanging out, come back to my parents' house, have

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00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: a big, huge pot luck where we cooked all sorts

720
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Speaker 1: of things, and then play a bunch of board games

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00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: and sleepover and come back the next day. There was

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Speaker 1: a tree hunt running for like I don't even know,

723
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Speaker 1: maybe eleven years. This year I had to take a

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Speaker 1: pause because I was out of town. But we're back

725
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Speaker 1: at it next year on the tree hunt. Also, I

726
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: hate late Thanksgiving because it just like slows everything down,

727
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: and then if you wait a week after Thanksgiving, suddenly

728
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Speaker 1: your tree isn't into like December tenth. Okay, my other

729
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: big tradition actually just happened this past weekend. It's called

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Speaker 1: Fletch Navidad. This is our annual Christmas party, plus my

731
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Speaker 1: dog Fletch's birthday. He turned thirteen at the end of November,

732
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Speaker 1: so this was the twelfth annual Fletch Navidad. This year's

733
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Speaker 1: theme was Liffletcher die Hard. And every year you can

734
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Speaker 1: wear costumes, you can wear ugly sweaters, you could just

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00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: be festive, and every year people get more and more

736
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Speaker 1: involved because they know that we're going to like bring it.

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Speaker 1: So this year, my husband, who's six ' five was

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Speaker 1: Elf on a shelf, just a giant ass Elf that

739
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: we were placing in places. And then I was basically

740
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: the Zoe da Chanel Elf from the movie Elf, with

741
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Speaker 1: like the little I.

742
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: Think her name's Dobe or Dobby or whatever.

743
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Speaker 1: Nobody didn't ever really call her by her name, and

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00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: cute little pink and red little Elf outfit. And we

745
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,840
Speaker 1: always have I make a game using these solo cups

746
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: that look like a Christmas tree, and then they have

747
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: tissue paper covering. I mean, you have to come up

748
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: and punch through and whatever's inside you have to do

749
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Speaker 1: or eat or drink or whatever. So a lot of

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Speaker 1: times it's mellort shots. That's Chicago this year, there's also

751
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Speaker 1: like some dramatic readings where you had to read like

752
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 1: one of the famous scenes from like National Lampoon, like

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Speaker 1: why is the carpet wet Todd I don't know, Margo

754
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: or things like that. And then we also have a

755
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Speaker 1: dance off with the animatronic Santa that they chances that

756
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,280
Speaker 1: gets real nasty Santa just gets torqued one for twenty

757
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: minutes straight and he never said, Oh, I.

758
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 5: Thought it was a nasty Santa.

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00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 4: You're saying people get.

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Speaker 2: Nasty with no.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he is a nasty Santa by the end

762
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Speaker 1: of it. There's no way he can escape. Oh he

763
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: is complicit and everything that happens to him, I've never

764
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: once seen him stop dancing or walk away, so consensual

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Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned. And then this year I

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Speaker 1: also invented another malort related game where I changed all

767
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: the lyrics to Santa claus Is coming to Town to

768
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 1: Milert Clauses coming to town, and then throughout when I

769
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: handed out pieces of paper to six people who had

770
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: to sing it, and then different parts of the song,

771
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: it would say something that would mean that they had

772
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Speaker 1: to take a Milert shot.

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Speaker 2: So I'm a benevolent Milert fairy.

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Speaker 1: I'm mostly gentle, but I wouldn't be a real Chicago

775
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Speaker 1: And if I didn't write actual Christmas carols about lort

776
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: and force people to drink it. So those are my

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00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: two main Oh, and I have a third one I

778
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: forgot really quick. So then also a couple of days

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Speaker 1: after Christmas, when all the tourists are out of Chicago

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00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: and there's like a million pop up bars and beautifully

781
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 1: decorated hotels and places, we do holiday day.

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Speaker 2: Oh fun.

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00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: Now this is where when all the tourists are gone,

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Speaker 1: we do a full day again in sort of festive attire,

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00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: and we go to a handful of different like deck

786
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 1: pop up bars or other Christmas things. We go curling,

787
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Speaker 1: and then usually start with like a big meal and stuff,

788
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: and then we get to go around the city after

789
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: like most of the tourists are gone and still experience

790
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: the festive joy of the holidays.

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Speaker 5: Wow, that was that feels like a so much love

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Speaker 5: and work Welcome to my life. That is gonna be

793
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Speaker 5: on my grapestone.

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00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 4: So much love and work Spain.

795
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: Always tied together pretty much though, I'm like, I'll put

796
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: in the work because it's for love and I love

797
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: bringing people together and having fun.

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00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 2: So that is why I love the holidays.

799
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Speaker 1: Okay, we gotta take a break, but when we come back,

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Speaker 1: Supermarket sweep meets white Elephant. Yes, this is one of

801
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: our favorite traditions from you slices, So stick around, Welcome

802
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: back everybody. As you heard before the break, I love

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Speaker 1: the holidays. I'm such a sucker for Christmas, and I

804
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: love seeing all the trees in people's windows. I love

805
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: the music and the decorations. I love how all the

806
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: stores and everything feels so welcoming. And I love to

807
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: hear about all of your unique and special traditions.

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Speaker 2: So thanks to all.

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00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: Of you for sending them in, and thanks to all

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00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,720
Speaker 1: of you for responding on social. Here were a few

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Speaker 1: of the favorites that I saw so Dana og on

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00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: Blue Sky said, tacky ornament exchange. This year I got

813
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: pickless cage. Yeah, I just want you to know the

814
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: picture is as amazing as you're imagining pickless cage. Tracy

815
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: Lynch on Blue Sky said, I never put names on

816
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: the wrapped presence that appear on Christmas Morning.

817
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 2: Each GIF tag has a code name.

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00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm the only one with the code and the kids

819
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: try to crack the code. By the time all the

820
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: gifts are opened, I switch the code every year.

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Speaker 2: They love it. That's really I love that.

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Speaker 1: Tracy brent Sheppard on Blue Sky. In a tradition begun

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00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: the first holiday we spent together, my ex and I

824
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: still call each other late Christmas Eve for our annual

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00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: reading of the David Sedara short story Dinah the Christmas Whore.

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Speaker 1: This will be year eighteen and I can almost make

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Speaker 1: it through the whole story without breaking. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I love this because it's non traditional and now I

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Speaker 1: want to go read Dineah the Christmas Horror. But also

830
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Speaker 1: because I love the idea that you've been doing this

831
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: for eighteen years and this is now an X and

832
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: whoever y'all are with now, if you're with, everyone is like,

833
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: oh there they go in the middle of Christmas Eve

834
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Speaker 1: to go call their X and read a short story together.

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Speaker 2: You sound healed therapy works.

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Speaker 1: I think Kate w on Blue Sky said, we do

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Speaker 1: a special pie based friends giving where the entire meal

838
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: is a variety of pies, savory and sweet, so you

839
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: can do dinner pie course followed by dessert pies. Every

840
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: family brings at least two pies, but there's always an

841
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 1: overachiever with a bonus pie.

842
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 2: It's incredible. That sounds magical. Please invite me.

843
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: Kate jack Orian and his kids put out and rearranged

844
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: the holiday Gremlins like Elf on a shelf, but with gremlins.

845
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: Mish has no idea what the gremlins are, but me,

846
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: it's a movie, you know. Don't feed them after midnight,

847
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: don't get water on them, etc.

848
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: And so forth.

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Speaker 1: Stuart Wexler still gives his fourteen year old son at

850
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 1: least one unwrapped gift under the tree to prove that

851
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Santa brought it, which is adorable. My mother still signs

852
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 1: at least one or two gifts from Santa to my

853
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: sister and me, despite our age, which is adorable.

854
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: Justin Baird on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: So when I was a kid, my mom got burned

856
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: out having to host and cook food for both Thanksgiving

857
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: and Christmas. So we collectively agreed we'd rather have homemade

858
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: pizzas when we got together for Christmas. So everyone picks

859
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: their toppings and we trade slices. That sounds delightful and

860
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: very Chicago.

861
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 2: I love that.

862
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: Justin at the Vague Queen on Twitter for generations, our

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00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: family has done tree gifts. At the end of the day,

864
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: we'll go to the Christmas tree and find small gifts

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Speaker 1: hidden in the tree and open them over dessert. Many

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00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: family engagements have capped off Christmas Day.

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Speaker 2: That is adorable.

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Speaker 1: Except one year I was looking inside my tree and

869
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: I saw this weird looking like nest circle thing, and

870
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: I posted it and it turned out it was actually

871
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 1: a eggsack, and I luckily got it out of the

872
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: house before thousands of tiny little tree spiders hatched in

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Speaker 1: my house. So I hope when you're searching your tree

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Speaker 1: for little gifts you never find an eggsack instead of

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Speaker 1: an engagement ring as song as you don't, that's cute.

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Speaker 2: Cute tradition.

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Speaker 1: Narcoleptic moth Man says, Christmas Eve, we hand out one

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Speaker 1: gift which our pajamas to.

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Speaker 2: Wear that night and during Christmas Morning.

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Speaker 1: I love this one because I love a matching family

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Speaker 1: PJ set and it is very rare that I can

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Speaker 1: get my family to do it. But a couple of

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Speaker 1: years I did, and I made my dad in his

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Speaker 1: seventies wear the same outfit as a two year old,

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Speaker 1: and it was so delightful for me and my family's

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Speaker 1: all very tall, so they never fit us, and it's

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Speaker 1: still very fun and cute.

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Speaker 2: So I love that tradition.

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Speaker 1: John Robertson from Insta said, my wife's family does and

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Speaker 1: has had traditions for years. A Jimmy fallon game night,

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Speaker 1: we do drinko eggreu lette, and a lip sync battle

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Speaker 1: all on Christmas Eve. And this year my family is

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Speaker 1: performing I'm Just Ken and the Bye Bye Bye song

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Speaker 1: from the Deadpool versus Wolverine opening scene. People go all out.

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Speaker 1: I wish my family would do this. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: try to start to convince my family to this. I

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Speaker 1: am really the performer of the family shocker. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if they would want to, but I used to

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Speaker 1: love watching the family dance wars between some of the

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Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars folks. I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: remember this, Maybe like a decade ago they started to

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Speaker 1: go viral where they would do dance wars and like

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Speaker 1: send them back to each other via Instagram video.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't think my family's going to want to do it,

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Speaker 1: but I would like that, so that might be one

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Speaker 1: that I steal.

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Speaker 2: That's really cute.

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Speaker 1: My favorite one of all though, which I'm definitely gonna steal.

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Speaker 1: Comes from my friend Aaron Ryder on Instagram, and her

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Speaker 1: tradition takes place in a mall or a shopping center.

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Speaker 1: So she said, quote, it's a real time white Elephant.

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Speaker 2: We get a bit tipsy and people pick numbers.

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Speaker 1: The first off of the group goes shopping for twenty

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Speaker 1: five minutes with twenty five dollars and comes back with

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Speaker 1: things in a bag. The next group shops and then

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Speaker 1: it's like white Elephant rules with stealing and such. So

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Speaker 1: I say, it's a matchup of white Elephant and shop

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Speaker 1: till you drop or supermarket sweep.

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Speaker 2: We started it in La at the Grove. It's a sign.

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Speaker 1: We started in La at the Grove in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine it was called the Grovy Games, and now

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Speaker 1: in Nashville it's the Opry Reindeer Games.

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Speaker 2: But you can do it at any shopping area. That

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Speaker 2: sounds super fun.

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Speaker 1: I love White Elephant, but the idea of the pressure

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Speaker 1: of like running around them all trying to find a

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Speaker 1: good white Elephant gift and coming back and playing super fun.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to everybody for sharing.

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Speaker 1: I love, love love hearing about all the ways that

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Speaker 1: you get together with friends and family and continue traditions

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Speaker 1: or start new traditions. And there are a few in

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Speaker 1: there that I might steal. And you, of course are

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Speaker 1: welcome to steal Fletch Navidad. Even if you don't have

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Speaker 1: a dog named Fletch, you could still do it. As always,

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Speaker 1: the end of the year and we would love to

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Speaker 1: hear what you're excited for in twenty twenty five and

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Speaker 1: rate and review. It's easy watch gingerbread Houses rating five

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Speaker 1: out of five gum drops review, what other dessert makes

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Speaker 1: you want to pack up a suitcase and move in.

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Speaker 1: Unlike every other dessert inspired item out there, it somehow

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter how it tastes. Gum drops, after all, are

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Speaker 1: reliably disgusting, especially the green ones, and no one wants

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Speaker 1: to chomp into some stale gingerbread that's been sitting out

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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, especially after the family dog

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Speaker 1: has taken a bite actual lived experience here, or the

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Speaker 1: family cat has rubbed up against it, leaving behind a

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Speaker 1: few stray furs, actual alex.

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Speaker 2: Lived experience there.

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Speaker 1: All that matters is that it looks delightful, and that's

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Speaker 1: enough for us. Shout out to my hobby Brad, who

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Speaker 1: last year had an Actual Food Network gingerbread show competitor

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Speaker 1: make a perfect gingerbread replica of our house, right down

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Speaker 1: to the Christmas decorations on the fence out front and

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Speaker 1: a light up tree inside. Plus there were little doghouses

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Speaker 1: on the side for our pups and that happened to

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Speaker 1: be one of the dogs eight. Anyway, I wanted to

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Speaker 1: keep that gingerbread house alive forever. It was such a

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Speaker 1: delight Now it's your.

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