WEBVTT - Play-In Tournament Game Break Downs

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<v Speaker 1>It is the end of the season, and at this

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<v Speaker 1>point we're all pretty much playing hurt. Someone I met today,

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<v Speaker 1>an insider friend of show, Jake Fisher, told me, I

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<v Speaker 1>sound like I have been smoking two packs of cigarettes

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<v Speaker 1>for the last two weeks at night, So sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>my voice is starting to go on me.

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<v Speaker 2>But the show continues.

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<v Speaker 1>The show continues because we got some things to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start first before we break down on what happened

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<v Speaker 1>the first playing games.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a gripe to get off my chest. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Silver, can.

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<v Speaker 1>You use your hammer of justice to officially make the

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<v Speaker 1>playing games count as playoff games? Can we get some stats?

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<v Speaker 1>Can those stats count for something? Because what most people

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that stats from playing games don't count towards

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<v Speaker 1>the regular season. They don't count towards the playoffs. They're

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<v Speaker 1>just lost. They're just gone. They count for nothing, They're

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<v Speaker 1>gone forever. Even Basketball Reference, which I couldn't live one

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<v Speaker 1>day without, doesn't even have play in stats when you

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<v Speaker 1>call up a player's season game log. So what do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do? You have to go into the

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<v Speaker 1>individual games themselves. Do you remember when Jason Tatum put

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<v Speaker 1>up fifty on the Wizards in the twenty twenty Playing Game.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck finding that, good luck seeing that it was real.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Tatum's gonna tell his son that Duce Tatum when

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<v Speaker 1>Duce Tatum's like ten years old. And then Duce Tatum's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be like, prove it to me. You can't do

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<v Speaker 1>those stats count towards his career totals.

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<v Speaker 2>Who the fuck knows? I don't know. Fix this.

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<v Speaker 1>Otherwise, people are gonna think that the playing game is

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<v Speaker 1>an exhibition game because finding Summer League stats, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>is easier than find stats for the play in games.

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<v Speaker 2>I digress.

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<v Speaker 1>Fascinating things happened in the first Playing games. Mostly they

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<v Speaker 1>have to do with the teams that lost, though, So okay, Miami,

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<v Speaker 1>they were the number one seed in the East last year,

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<v Speaker 1>might not make the playoffs this year.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pelicans one of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Most exciting teams coming into the season this year. They

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<v Speaker 1>were at one point this season the best team in

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<v Speaker 1>the West. They were number one in the West before

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<v Speaker 1>if a Zion got hurt, we were all excited about

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<v Speaker 1>what they would do. They took Phoenix to the brink

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<v Speaker 1>last year, and you know what, They're gonna watch the

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<v Speaker 1>playoffs from the couch three to two, one can coon,

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<v Speaker 1>so it goes. The Wolves were considered to be one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best young hot teams. They made the move

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<v Speaker 1>for Rudy Gobert so that they could win right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what they're doing. They are hoping upon

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<v Speaker 1>all hope that they can they can beat the OKC.

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<v Speaker 2>Thunder tomorrow or tonight and the Raptors. The Raptors were

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<v Speaker 2>so exciting. The Raptors.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone had these huge expectations for them. You have multiple

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<v Speaker 1>players used to play defense, and you know what you do.

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<v Speaker 1>You get cooked by DeMar DeRozan and Zach Lavine. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't make the playoffs. And now you're rebuilding.

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<v Speaker 2>All of these teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Have had success recently, had high expectations, and now they're

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<v Speaker 1>at the crossroads. You're gonna probably either see roster rebuilds

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<v Speaker 1>or coaching changes in all of those scenarios.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. That's the thing about expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>If you perform ahead of schedule and then you take

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<v Speaker 1>a step back, oftentimes you pay a price.

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<v Speaker 2>People are like, what are we doing? What's wrong with Toronto?

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<v Speaker 2>What's wrong with the Pelicans. It's like, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>Like CJ.

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<v Speaker 1>McCollum, Torres Labram, I don't know his thumb also torn,

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<v Speaker 1>like Brendon Ingram was insane, like Herb Jones can't shoot threes,

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<v Speaker 1>like have you seen a three point shot?

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<v Speaker 2>It's a push shot. It's a ten year old girls

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<v Speaker 2>push shot and probably even worse than that. What are

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<v Speaker 2>we doing?

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<v Speaker 1>And now we've got issues? Right onto the games and

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<v Speaker 1>their implications. Hawks won sixteen one oh five to the Heat.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought there was no chance for the Atlanta Hawks.

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<v Speaker 2>None.

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<v Speaker 1>Hawks pulled a major upset to the fact that all

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen ESPN commentaars picked the Heat to beat him. De

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<v Speaker 1>Jon Tay Murray tweeted the jokes on you when he

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<v Speaker 1>heard this, because the reality is, the joke is on

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<v Speaker 1>all of us. It wasn't because we underestimated the Hawks.

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<v Speaker 1>It was because we overestimated the Heat. The heat fucking suck.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk a little bit later about how Brian Windhorst thinks

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<v Speaker 1>that Damian Lillard's going to the Heat.

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<v Speaker 2>And to that end, I say, for who, for who

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<v Speaker 2>do we want? Who?

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<v Speaker 1>The Blazers want, No one, no one on that god

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<v Speaker 1>forsaken team. There is real trouble brewing in Miami, and

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<v Speaker 1>it might end up that the roster all together just disintegrates.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Spolstra might end up having to find a new job.

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<v Speaker 1>I was asked before the BETMGM show, my betting show,

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<v Speaker 1>on a scale of one to ten, one being zero

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<v Speaker 1>and ten being very confident, how confident are you that

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<v Speaker 1>the Hawks can pull up an upset against the Heat,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said one.

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<v Speaker 2>I said one.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no chance the Hawks suck. The Heat missed fifteen layups.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was like saran wrap was around the rim.

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<v Speaker 1>You had Quinn Snyder coaching his little lass off out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You had Spo looking shook. They out rebounded the Miami

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<v Speaker 1>Heat by a gajillion. I think Capella had twenty one rebounds.

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<v Speaker 1>The high low action between Bam on Bam and Lowry,

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<v Speaker 1>it was like mouse.

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<v Speaker 2>In the house, Mouse and the house. It was one

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<v Speaker 2>of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Scenarios where you're like, oh yeah, like it's never really close.

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<v Speaker 1>Heat can make a couple of runs and Atlanta just

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<v Speaker 1>keeps extending said lead. You could see the riding on

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<v Speaker 1>the wall as it went on. You can see almost

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<v Speaker 1>the future of the two teams in front of you

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<v Speaker 1>playing right. You're like oh, like, actually, the future's.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of bright for the Hawks.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see what they're trying to do, Like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I see guys moving without the basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>I see it.

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<v Speaker 1>You see Miami and you're like, oh god, Miami, I

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<v Speaker 1>think is done. Kyle Lowry, where's he been? Came out

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<v Speaker 1>of retirement for this game?

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<v Speaker 2>He played.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he played all the minutes. I think he

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<v Speaker 1>went on a fast for this. He had over thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not matter. Trey played well, Dejonte played well

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<v Speaker 1>on Yeka Akongu was incredible five for six, twelve points,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes plus seven. Sidik Bay was everywhere. That team

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<v Speaker 1>looked good. It was really cool too to see how

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<v Speaker 1>the Hawks moved without the ball. It's exactly the type

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<v Speaker 1>of offense that Quinn Snyder wanted to run in Utah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like so simple a change.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, is it weird to say that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>when you move without the basketball, when and just continue

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<v Speaker 1>to do it and pass to those people who are

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<v Speaker 1>moving that it's like hard to get open shots. It's

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<v Speaker 1>weird that people just don't do that. They just stand

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<v Speaker 1>around the perimeter and hope that they're going to get open.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like very of and simple that, Hey, when you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the ball, why don't you cut, cut to

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<v Speaker 1>the lane, cut away from the lane, literally instrument some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of motion offense, and then pass to the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are moving like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Sidiq Bay was everywhere looking like Gary Payton the second

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<v Speaker 1>cut into the basket, deflecting balls, hitting timely three. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh wow, like Sideique Bay, get him out of Detroit,

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<v Speaker 1>get him with a real coach, and Jesus Christ, sidek

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<v Speaker 1>Bay's pretty good. Now, the Hawks take on the Celtics,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll just say this, the Hawks already have dismantled

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<v Speaker 1>one franchise in the East. You better watch out or

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Brown's gonna go somewhere else. I'm not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>the Hawks have a chance to beat the Celtics. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just saying that they're not going to roll over. And

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<v Speaker 1>Quinn Snyder's for real. Quinn Snyder is coaching this team

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<v Speaker 1>much better than Lloyd Pierce or Nate mcmellan ever did.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what a real coach looks like. Uh, let's

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<v Speaker 1>see how Rob Williams looks. Because Capella and a Coongwu

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<v Speaker 1>are coming for him. If his knee isn't right, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>have to see. I'm really excited too to see Trey

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<v Speaker 1>Young versus Marcus Smart. Trey averages twenty six, eight and

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<v Speaker 1>three against Boston in his career. He's already had thirty one,

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<v Speaker 1>four and eleven this year. And then outside of that

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami, the nails in the coffin, they're already dead.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bulls are gonna slice them and dice them and

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<v Speaker 1>eat them for breakfast.

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<v Speaker 2>No chance. It's time for South Beach to go on vacation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been an incredible year, an incredibly bad one, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for them to make some choices moving forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Lakers won o eight, Wolves one oh two. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>what was that game? The game stunk. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>most It was the most dramatic and bad fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>I think I've ever seen. I think that the Wolves

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<v Speaker 1>put up twelve points in the fourth quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron James was a freak.

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<v Speaker 1>He played forty five out of the fifty three minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>including all of overtime, Ade chipped in.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Lebron had thirty ten and six with

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<v Speaker 1>the steal and two blocks. Anthony Davis was really good

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, fifteen and five. He had two steals, three blocks,

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<v Speaker 1>and listen, the problem for Minnesota and for Karl Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Towns is that Karl Anthony Towns is just not that guy.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't have him be the tone setter.

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<v Speaker 1>You just can't because when he's setting the tone, he's

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<v Speaker 1>fouling guys and getting into trouble. He had I think

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand in like two minutes. All of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>he's sitting on the bench because he's got three fouls

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half or something like that. You have

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out a way to stay on the floor,

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<v Speaker 1>Karl Anthony Towns.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the point. You have no center.

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<v Speaker 1>Rudigobert is nowhere to be found. He's been sent away

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<v Speaker 1>from the team jettison, and that's all you have is you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's crazy. The Wolves still had a chance to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Even with all that, they still had a chance to win.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Conley is really good. You see why they brought

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<v Speaker 1>him in. Uh Anthony Edwards was again nothing. He was

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the shoulder issue. I think he was zero

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<v Speaker 1>for nine from three. Continued to chuck, wasn't a great,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't use his athleticism at all.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just one of.

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<v Speaker 1>Those scenarios where you're wondering, where is the guy that

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<v Speaker 1>shows up in these big moments. Will the fighting frenchman

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<v Speaker 1>o huh Rudy Goldbert ahu monteur Rudy. Will he be

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<v Speaker 1>a factor in this next game?

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<v Speaker 2>We'll have to see.

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<v Speaker 1>As for the Lakers, man, you gotta give him a

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<v Speaker 1>gritty win for that. They look like they were on

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<v Speaker 1>the ropes. They look like they were dead, and now

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<v Speaker 1>they take on a Memphis team without Steven Adams, without

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon Clark, and a Jaren Jackson who's just basically like

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<v Speaker 1>Karl Anthony town is a guy who's a undersized five

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<v Speaker 1>who should really play four, who's always in foul trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>and the backup is Xavier Tillman. So it's not really

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<v Speaker 1>a great scenario. Is Anthony Davis going to eat these

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<v Speaker 1>boys for lunch? Probably as long as Anthony Davis is healthy,

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers should win this series. A DLLO was a

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<v Speaker 1>massive disappointment against the Grizzlies last year in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>How will he redeem himself. We're gonna have to see.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's up for a contract, and if he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>play well.

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<v Speaker 2>In the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that the Lakers want to extend him.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, the X factor is Dennis Shooter. He was

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<v Speaker 1>incredible in that game against the Tea Wolves. Everywhere he

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty much the only guy that you could rely

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<v Speaker 1>on to hit timely shots. He was deflecting balls, he

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<v Speaker 1>was defensively everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably the best matchup for the Lakers that they

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<v Speaker 1>could ask for, because why because the Grizzlies can't shoot

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<v Speaker 1>threes and neither can the Lakers. That's pretty much it.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw Darvin Ham go away from all the guys

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<v Speaker 1>that he traded for, which I thought was hilarious. They

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<v Speaker 1>were all sitting their asses on the bench and it

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<v Speaker 1>was just the normies. Austin reeves. We need to have

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<v Speaker 1>a big series for them. If there is an upset

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round that happens, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>That this is it right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving forward, Bulls won oh nine Raptors one oh five.

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<v Speaker 1>What a fucking game that was. Raptors get out.

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<v Speaker 2>To a massive lead.

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<v Speaker 1>Credit to the Bulls. They do not give up. They

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<v Speaker 1>turn their season around. Everyone thought that they were dead.

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<v Speaker 1>All they did was pick up it. Was just Pat Beverly,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>It was just him?

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, there are one of the better

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<v Speaker 1>teams in the East since the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 2>This team is now dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>They upset a Raptors team that most people thought would

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<v Speaker 1>have very little problem winning this game. I think the

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<v Speaker 1>Raptors closed as six and a half point favorites. Midway

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<v Speaker 1>through the third the Raptors were up fifteen points and

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<v Speaker 1>then the Bulls just locked in. Oh my god, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't let Zach Lavine slice you like a hot knife

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<v Speaker 1>through butter. I think he had what fourteen in the

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<v Speaker 1>third quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't you? You can't do that. You cannot do that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem with fucking around with a team with

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of superstars and a couple of gritty, defensive dudes.

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<v Speaker 1>Levine had almost forty, had thirty nine points, DeRozan had

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three. You had those two things together, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to compete with. They missed eighteen of thirty six frets.

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<v Speaker 2>Why what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Demart de Rosen brought his nine year old daughter

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<v Speaker 1>there and she screamed, blood curdling, bloody murder. In the

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<v Speaker 1>six in Toronto, he brought her to Toronto so that

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<v Speaker 1>she can scream murder every time that a Raptor went

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<v Speaker 1>to the free throw line. Now, it's a long offseason

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<v Speaker 1>for the Raptors.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like Kylie.

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<v Speaker 1>Anderson said, you've got a lot of decisions to make

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<v Speaker 1>during the summer. Nick Nurse probably gone, Pascal may be gone,

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<v Speaker 1>Og may be gone, Fred van Fleet for sure gone,

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Trent probably gone. So we could have just the

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<v Speaker 1>Scottie Barn summer and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>It might just be a rebuilding team and a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of draft picks. OKC one twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>New Orleans Pelicans won eighteen man Man oh man, was that.

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<v Speaker 2>A good one? Okase?

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<v Speaker 1>He's a gritty, little fun team, aren't they. Lou Dort

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<v Speaker 1>was incredible. He was hitting threes upon threes.

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<v Speaker 2>He was making your rain.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pelicans were containing Shay and you had to say

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<v Speaker 1>to yourself, at some point, he's going to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to break through, And you know what, Giddy and Dort

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<v Speaker 1>went off. Thirty one for Giddy, twenty seven for Dort,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Shay still figured out a way to get thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>A quiet thirty. But man Andy didn't have a free

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<v Speaker 1>throw in the first half starting five for OKAC, all

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<v Speaker 1>under the age of twenty three. All five played thirty

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<v Speaker 1>two minutes or more, with Shae Giddy dort All playing

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<v Speaker 1>an average of forty minutes, scoring eighty eight points combined.

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<v Speaker 2>Look Out.

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<v Speaker 1>OKAC now moves to play the Wolves, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>a matchup nightmare for the Wolves.

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<v Speaker 2>Denver waits.

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<v Speaker 1>Both Okasee and Minnesota could be trouble for that team

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<v Speaker 1>in different ways. We're gonna find out how good Denver

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<v Speaker 1>is soon enough,