Speaker 1: It is the end of the season, and at this
Speaker 1: point we're all pretty much playing hurt. Someone I met today,
Speaker 1: an insider friend of show, Jake Fisher, told me, I
Speaker 1: sound like I have been smoking two packs of cigarettes
Speaker 1: for the last two weeks at night, So sounds like
Speaker 1: my voice is starting to go on me.
Speaker 2: But the show continues.
Speaker 1: The show continues because we got some things to do.
Speaker 1: Let's start first before we break down on what happened
Speaker 1: the first playing games.
Speaker 2: I have a gripe to get off my chest. Hey,
Speaker 2: Adam Silver, can.
Speaker 1: You use your hammer of justice to officially make the
Speaker 1: playing games count as playoff games? Can we get some stats?
Speaker 1: Can those stats count for something? Because what most people
Speaker 1: don't know that stats from playing games don't count towards
Speaker 1: the regular season. They don't count towards the playoffs. They're
Speaker 1: just lost. They're just gone. They count for nothing, They're
Speaker 1: gone forever. Even Basketball Reference, which I couldn't live one
Speaker 1: day without, doesn't even have play in stats when you
Speaker 1: call up a player's season game log. So what do
Speaker 1: you have to do? You have to go into the
Speaker 1: individual games themselves. Do you remember when Jason Tatum put
Speaker 1: up fifty on the Wizards in the twenty twenty Playing Game.
Speaker 1: Good luck finding that, good luck seeing that it was real.
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum's gonna tell his son that Duce Tatum when
Speaker 1: Duce Tatum's like ten years old. And then Duce Tatum's
Speaker 1: gonna be like, prove it to me. You can't do
Speaker 1: those stats count towards his career totals.
Speaker 2: Who the fuck knows? I don't know. Fix this.
Speaker 1: Otherwise, people are gonna think that the playing game is
Speaker 1: an exhibition game because finding Summer League stats, I think,
Speaker 1: is easier than find stats for the play in games.
Speaker 2: I digress.
Speaker 1: Fascinating things happened in the first Playing games. Mostly they
Speaker 1: have to do with the teams that lost, though, So okay, Miami,
Speaker 1: they were the number one seed in the East last year,
Speaker 1: might not make the playoffs this year.
Speaker 2: The Pelicans one of the.
Speaker 1: Most exciting teams coming into the season this year. They
Speaker 1: were at one point this season the best team in
Speaker 1: the West. They were number one in the West before
Speaker 1: if a Zion got hurt, we were all excited about
Speaker 1: what they would do. They took Phoenix to the brink
Speaker 1: last year, and you know what, They're gonna watch the
Speaker 1: playoffs from the couch three to two, one can coon,
Speaker 1: so it goes. The Wolves were considered to be one
Speaker 1: of the best young hot teams. They made the move
Speaker 1: for Rudy Gobert so that they could win right now.
Speaker 1: And you know what they're doing. They are hoping upon
Speaker 1: all hope that they can they can beat the OKC.
Speaker 2: Thunder tomorrow or tonight and the Raptors. The Raptors were
Speaker 2: so exciting. The Raptors.
Speaker 1: Everyone had these huge expectations for them. You have multiple
Speaker 1: players used to play defense, and you know what you do.
Speaker 1: You get cooked by DeMar DeRozan and Zach Lavine. You
Speaker 1: don't make the playoffs. And now you're rebuilding.
Speaker 2: All of these teams.
Speaker 1: Have had success recently, had high expectations, and now they're
Speaker 1: at the crossroads. You're gonna probably either see roster rebuilds
Speaker 1: or coaching changes in all of those scenarios.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. That's the thing about expectations.
Speaker 1: If you perform ahead of schedule and then you take
Speaker 1: a step back, oftentimes you pay a price.
Speaker 2: People are like, what are we doing? What's wrong with Toronto?
Speaker 2: What's wrong with the Pelicans. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: Like CJ.
Speaker 1: McCollum, Torres Labram, I don't know his thumb also torn,
Speaker 1: like Brendon Ingram was insane, like Herb Jones can't shoot threes,
Speaker 1: like have you seen a three point shot?
Speaker 2: It's a push shot. It's a ten year old girls
Speaker 2: push shot and probably even worse than that. What are
Speaker 2: we doing?
Speaker 1: And now we've got issues? Right onto the games and
Speaker 1: their implications. Hawks won sixteen one oh five to the Heat.
Speaker 1: I thought there was no chance for the Atlanta Hawks.
Speaker 2: None.
Speaker 1: Hawks pulled a major upset to the fact that all
Speaker 1: seventeen ESPN commentaars picked the Heat to beat him. De
Speaker 1: Jon Tay Murray tweeted the jokes on you when he
Speaker 1: heard this, because the reality is, the joke is on
Speaker 1: all of us. It wasn't because we underestimated the Hawks.
Speaker 1: It was because we overestimated the Heat. The heat fucking suck.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit later about how Brian Windhorst thinks
Speaker 1: that Damian Lillard's going to the Heat.
Speaker 2: And to that end, I say, for who, for who
Speaker 2: do we want? Who?
Speaker 1: The Blazers want, No one, no one on that god
Speaker 1: forsaken team. There is real trouble brewing in Miami, and
Speaker 1: it might end up that the roster all together just disintegrates.
Speaker 1: Eric Spolstra might end up having to find a new job.
Speaker 1: I was asked before the BETMGM show, my betting show,
Speaker 1: on a scale of one to ten, one being zero
Speaker 1: and ten being very confident, how confident are you that
Speaker 1: the Hawks can pull up an upset against the Heat,
Speaker 1: And I said one.
Speaker 2: I said one.
Speaker 1: There's no chance the Hawks suck. The Heat missed fifteen layups.
Speaker 1: I think it was like saran wrap was around the rim.
Speaker 1: You had Quinn Snyder coaching his little lass off out there.
Speaker 1: You had Spo looking shook. They out rebounded the Miami
Speaker 1: Heat by a gajillion. I think Capella had twenty one rebounds.
Speaker 1: The high low action between Bam on Bam and Lowry,
Speaker 1: it was like mouse.
Speaker 2: In the house, Mouse and the house. It was one
Speaker 2: of those.
Speaker 1: Scenarios where you're like, oh yeah, like it's never really close.
Speaker 1: Heat can make a couple of runs and Atlanta just
Speaker 1: keeps extending said lead. You could see the riding on
Speaker 1: the wall as it went on. You can see almost
Speaker 1: the future of the two teams in front of you
Speaker 1: playing right. You're like oh, like, actually, the future's.
Speaker 2: Kind of bright for the Hawks.
Speaker 1: I can see what they're trying to do, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: I see guys moving without the basketball.
Speaker 2: I see it.
Speaker 1: You see Miami and you're like, oh god, Miami, I
Speaker 1: think is done. Kyle Lowry, where's he been? Came out
Speaker 1: of retirement for this game?
Speaker 2: He played.
Speaker 1: I think he played all the minutes. I think he
Speaker 1: went on a fast for this. He had over thirty.
Speaker 1: It did not matter. Trey played well, Dejonte played well
Speaker 1: on Yeka Akongu was incredible five for six, twelve points,
Speaker 1: twenty minutes plus seven. Sidik Bay was everywhere. That team
Speaker 1: looked good. It was really cool too to see how
Speaker 1: the Hawks moved without the ball. It's exactly the type
Speaker 1: of offense that Quinn Snyder wanted to run in Utah.
Speaker 2: It's just like so simple a change.
Speaker 1: I don't know, is it weird to say that, Like
Speaker 1: when you move without the basketball, when and just continue
Speaker 1: to do it and pass to those people who are
Speaker 1: moving that it's like hard to get open shots. It's
Speaker 1: weird that people just don't do that. They just stand
Speaker 1: around the perimeter and hope that they're going to get open.
Speaker 1: It's like very of and simple that, Hey, when you
Speaker 1: don't have the ball, why don't you cut, cut to
Speaker 1: the lane, cut away from the lane, literally instrument some
Speaker 1: sort of motion offense, and then pass to the guys
Speaker 1: that are moving like that.
Speaker 2: That's what it was.
Speaker 1: Sidiq Bay was everywhere looking like Gary Payton the second
Speaker 1: cut into the basket, deflecting balls, hitting timely three. He's like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, like Sideique Bay, get him out of Detroit,
Speaker 1: get him with a real coach, and Jesus Christ, sidek
Speaker 1: Bay's pretty good. Now, the Hawks take on the Celtics,
Speaker 1: and I'll just say this, the Hawks already have dismantled
Speaker 1: one franchise in the East. You better watch out or
Speaker 1: Jalen Brown's gonna go somewhere else. I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: the Hawks have a chance to beat the Celtics. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying that they're not going to roll over. And
Speaker 1: Quinn Snyder's for real. Quinn Snyder is coaching this team
Speaker 1: much better than Lloyd Pierce or Nate mcmellan ever did.
Speaker 1: This is what a real coach looks like. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: see how Rob Williams looks. Because Capella and a Coongwu
Speaker 1: are coming for him. If his knee isn't right, we'll
Speaker 1: have to see. I'm really excited too to see Trey
Speaker 1: Young versus Marcus Smart. Trey averages twenty six, eight and
Speaker 1: three against Boston in his career. He's already had thirty one,
Speaker 1: four and eleven this year. And then outside of that
Speaker 1: in Miami, the nails in the coffin, they're already dead.
Speaker 1: The Bulls are gonna slice them and dice them and
Speaker 1: eat them for breakfast.
Speaker 2: No chance. It's time for South Beach to go on vacation.
Speaker 1: It's been an incredible year, an incredibly bad one, and
Speaker 1: it's time for them to make some choices moving forward.
Speaker 1: Lakers won o eight, Wolves one oh two. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what was that game? The game stunk. It was the
Speaker 1: most It was the most dramatic and bad fourth quarter
Speaker 1: I think I've ever seen. I think that the Wolves
Speaker 1: put up twelve points in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: Lebron James was a freak.
Speaker 1: He played forty five out of the fifty three minutes,
Speaker 1: including all of overtime, Ade chipped in.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, Lebron had thirty ten and six with
Speaker 1: the steal and two blocks. Anthony Davis was really good
Speaker 1: twenty four, fifteen and five. He had two steals, three blocks,
Speaker 1: and listen, the problem for Minnesota and for Karl Anthony
Speaker 1: Towns is that Karl Anthony Towns is just not that guy.
Speaker 2: You can't have him be the tone setter.
Speaker 1: You just can't because when he's setting the tone, he's
Speaker 1: fouling guys and getting into trouble. He had I think
Speaker 1: two thousand in like two minutes. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's sitting on the bench because he's got three fouls
Speaker 1: in the first half or something like that. You have
Speaker 1: to figure out a way to stay on the floor,
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns.
Speaker 2: That's the point. You have no center.
Speaker 1: Rudigobert is nowhere to be found. He's been sent away
Speaker 1: from the team jettison, and that's all you have is you.
Speaker 1: It's it's crazy. The Wolves still had a chance to win.
Speaker 1: Even with all that, they still had a chance to win.
Speaker 1: Mike Conley is really good. You see why they brought
Speaker 1: him in. Uh Anthony Edwards was again nothing. He was
Speaker 1: dealing with the shoulder issue. I think he was zero
Speaker 1: for nine from three. Continued to chuck, wasn't a great,
Speaker 1: didn't use his athleticism at all.
Speaker 2: It was just one of.
Speaker 1: Those scenarios where you're wondering, where is the guy that
Speaker 1: shows up in these big moments. Will the fighting frenchman
Speaker 1: o huh Rudy Goldbert ahu monteur Rudy. Will he be
Speaker 1: a factor in this next game?
Speaker 2: We'll have to see.
Speaker 1: As for the Lakers, man, you gotta give him a
Speaker 1: gritty win for that. They look like they were on
Speaker 1: the ropes. They look like they were dead, and now
Speaker 1: they take on a Memphis team without Steven Adams, without
Speaker 1: Brandon Clark, and a Jaren Jackson who's just basically like
Speaker 1: Karl Anthony town is a guy who's a undersized five
Speaker 1: who should really play four, who's always in foul trouble,
Speaker 1: and the backup is Xavier Tillman. So it's not really
Speaker 1: a great scenario. Is Anthony Davis going to eat these
Speaker 1: boys for lunch? Probably as long as Anthony Davis is healthy,
Speaker 1: the Lakers should win this series. A DLLO was a
Speaker 1: massive disappointment against the Grizzlies last year in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: How will he redeem himself. We're gonna have to see.
Speaker 1: But he's up for a contract, and if he doesn't
Speaker 1: play well.
Speaker 2: In the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't know that the Lakers want to extend him.
Speaker 1: To me, the X factor is Dennis Shooter. He was
Speaker 1: incredible in that game against the Tea Wolves. Everywhere he
Speaker 1: was pretty much the only guy that you could rely
Speaker 1: on to hit timely shots. He was deflecting balls, he
Speaker 1: was defensively everywhere.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: It's probably the best matchup for the Lakers that they
Speaker 1: could ask for, because why because the Grizzlies can't shoot
Speaker 1: threes and neither can the Lakers. That's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: You saw Darvin Ham go away from all the guys
Speaker 1: that he traded for, which I thought was hilarious. They
Speaker 1: were all sitting their asses on the bench and it
Speaker 1: was just the normies. Austin reeves. We need to have
Speaker 1: a big series for them. If there is an upset
Speaker 1: in the first round that happens, I think.
Speaker 2: That this is it right here.
Speaker 1: Moving forward, Bulls won oh nine Raptors one oh five.
Speaker 1: What a fucking game that was. Raptors get out.
Speaker 2: To a massive lead.
Speaker 1: Credit to the Bulls. They do not give up. They
Speaker 1: turn their season around. Everyone thought that they were dead.
Speaker 1: All they did was pick up it. Was just Pat Beverly,
Speaker 1: wasn't it?
Speaker 2: It was just him?
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, there are one of the better
Speaker 1: teams in the East since the trade deadline.
Speaker 2: This team is now dangerous.
Speaker 1: They upset a Raptors team that most people thought would
Speaker 1: have very little problem winning this game. I think the
Speaker 1: Raptors closed as six and a half point favorites. Midway
Speaker 1: through the third the Raptors were up fifteen points and
Speaker 1: then the Bulls just locked in. Oh my god, you
Speaker 1: can't let Zach Lavine slice you like a hot knife
Speaker 1: through butter. I think he had what fourteen in the
Speaker 1: third quarter.
Speaker 2: Can't you? You can't do that. You cannot do that.
Speaker 1: That's the problem with fucking around with a team with
Speaker 1: a couple of superstars and a couple of gritty, defensive dudes.
Speaker 1: Levine had almost forty, had thirty nine points, DeRozan had
Speaker 1: twenty three. You had those two things together, and that's
Speaker 1: hard to compete with. They missed eighteen of thirty six frets.
Speaker 2: Why what happened?
Speaker 1: Well, Demart de Rosen brought his nine year old daughter
Speaker 1: there and she screamed, blood curdling, bloody murder. In the
Speaker 1: six in Toronto, he brought her to Toronto so that
Speaker 1: she can scream murder every time that a Raptor went
Speaker 1: to the free throw line. Now, it's a long offseason
Speaker 1: for the Raptors.
Speaker 2: Just like Kylie.
Speaker 1: Anderson said, you've got a lot of decisions to make
Speaker 1: during the summer. Nick Nurse probably gone, Pascal may be gone,
Speaker 1: Og may be gone, Fred van Fleet for sure gone,
Speaker 1: Gary Trent probably gone. So we could have just the
Speaker 1: Scottie Barn summer and that's it.
Speaker 2: It might just be a rebuilding team and a bunch
Speaker 2: of draft picks. OKC one twenty three.
Speaker 1: New Orleans Pelicans won eighteen man Man oh man, was that.
Speaker 2: A good one? Okase?
Speaker 1: He's a gritty, little fun team, aren't they. Lou Dort
Speaker 1: was incredible. He was hitting threes upon threes.
Speaker 2: He was making your rain.
Speaker 1: The Pelicans were containing Shay and you had to say
Speaker 1: to yourself, at some point, he's going to be able
Speaker 1: to break through, And you know what, Giddy and Dort
Speaker 1: went off. Thirty one for Giddy, twenty seven for Dort,
Speaker 1: and then Shay still figured out a way to get thirty.
Speaker 1: A quiet thirty. But man Andy didn't have a free
Speaker 1: throw in the first half starting five for OKAC, all
Speaker 1: under the age of twenty three. All five played thirty
Speaker 1: two minutes or more, with Shae Giddy dort All playing
Speaker 1: an average of forty minutes, scoring eighty eight points combined.
Speaker 2: Look Out.
Speaker 1: OKAC now moves to play the Wolves, and this is
Speaker 1: a matchup nightmare for the Wolves.
Speaker 2: Denver waits.
Speaker 1: Both Okasee and Minnesota could be trouble for that team
Speaker 1: in different ways. We're gonna find out how good Denver
Speaker 1: is soon enough,