1 00:00:02,160 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, December twenty third, and 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: as we speak, we have journalists, hundreds, thousands, maybe of 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: journalists all over this country pouring through tens of thousands 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 1: of new documents and the Epstein files that have just 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: been released as a matter of hours ago. And you 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: will not believe the headlines coming out of this stuff 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: right now. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: We did not We had a whole other plan of 9 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: episodes we were going to do today and this stuff 10 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: started coming out. Tell me what your headline is right now. 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: As we're very familiar with this story, it takes a 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: lot for us to go, wait, what what would you 13 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: say is your headline right now that jumps out, jaw 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: dropping you. 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 2: I would just say that I cannot believe that the 16 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: President of the United States is now being tied pretty dramatically, 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 2: not only to a conversation with Jeffrey Epstein, perhaps the 18 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: world's most notorious pedophile at this point, and now Larry 19 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: Nasser is involved, and there was basically what amounts to 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 2: a suicide note sent to Naser with President Trump's name 21 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: in it. That is about as big of a headline 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: as I could think of. 23 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: Let's be clear there to just make sure that letter 24 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: was sent to Nasser. It mentions the president, but it 25 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: doesn't have his name in it. We need to make 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: clear it says the president urse And we also need 27 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,120 Speaker 1: to make clear that there's nothing we have seen that 28 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: suggests any criminal behavior, criminal activity, or any suggestion that 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: the president was on an investigation. Now that we've got 30 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: that out of the way, Robes, the point you are making, 31 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: I think might be the headline. We have what appears 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: to be Jeffrey Epstein's suicide note that he wrote to 33 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: a fellow pedophile. 34 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 2: Yes, and it just says our president what and at 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 2: that time it was President Trump. Now, yes, that is 36 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: shocking that the two were even conversing, and the fact 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 2: that this was a note that he sent that actually 38 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 2: ended up where it I guess he was in a 39 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: different dress, so it got returned to sender. 40 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: But by the time it was postmark, Jeffrey Epstein. 41 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 2: Was already dead. And for anyone who had questions, and 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: I will admit I was in that camp. I was 43 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 2: not convinced that Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide, I haven't been. 44 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 2: But when I read this note, I said, Wow, it's true, 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide. 46 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: All right, Well, folks, those are the two. There's going 47 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: to be plenty more throughout the day. Really were talking 48 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of documents, and you have journalists all 49 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: over the country trying to pour through this stuff. So 50 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: let's we just wanted to hop on and give you 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: what everybody is talking about right now. Two things in particular. One, 52 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: the letter we're talking about, I guess looks more like 53 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: a postcard that he wrote on. Yes, all right, Jeffrey 54 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 1: Epstein wrote to Larry Nasser. Larry Nasser, Yes, the infamous 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,239 Speaker 1: Larry Nasser, who was spending one hundred years in prison 56 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: essentially right now, for sexual assault for child pornography for 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: was it decade? 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 2: It was. He was charged with sexual assault for more 59 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 2: than two hundred and sixty five women and girls over 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 2: a twenty two year period. Yes, he was a prolific 61 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 2: sexual predator. 62 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: That guy. So yes, Jeffrey Epstein wrote to him in 63 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: what is now being interpreted as a suicide note. We 64 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: are going to read that full text in just a second. 65 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 1: The other big thing jumping out is an email that 66 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: shows appears to show Trump was on Epstein's plane quite 67 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: a bit in a three year period. We will explain. 68 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: This is an email that came from a US Assistant 69 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: District attorney talking to someone but explaining we reviewed these 70 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: filed these logs and it appears he was on the 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: plane a lot, and they lay that out. Those are 72 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: the other two big headlines. There's also a Prince Andrew headline. 73 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: We will definitely get to in this one as well, 74 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: but let's stay focused with this NASA letter. Rose. Reminder 75 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: of who this guy is. I don't remember the names 76 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: in particular, but he was worked for the US Olympic team. 77 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: He worked for Michigan State for a long time. But 78 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: there are a couple of Olympians who came out publicly, 79 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: stood up, testified. So yeah, this guy abused me. 80 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: He was the US Gymnastics Olympic team's doctor. These are 81 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: young girls who are not taken away, but they live 82 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: away from their family to solely focus on becoming elite olympians. 83 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 2: And so yes, they are separated from families at young 84 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 2: ages to focus on their gymnastics career. And he had 85 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: full access to them as their doctor, and he betrayed 86 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 2: their trust and abused them. 87 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 3: Repeated. 88 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: So that's the guy we were talking about, and a 89 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: lot of you will remember that story. Again, he has 90 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: a state charges, federal charges, the equivalent of I really 91 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: do think it's one hundred and fifty years plus is 92 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: what he ended up being sentenced to. 93 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 2: So go ahead, yes, no, I can tell you because 94 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 2: I just actually looked sixty years in prison initially, then 95 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 2: an additional forty to one hundred and twenty five years 96 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: to be served consecutively. So it was the de facto 97 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: life in prison without parole sentence. Yes, a lot of 98 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: years plus he will die behind bars. 99 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: So the text of this again it looks like a postcard. 100 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: They have the actual image, not just the text of it. 101 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: But Jeffrey Epstein, days before he died, composed this thing 102 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: to send to Larry Nasser, who was at another prison 103 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: at the time. Why we don't know, and I want 104 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: to make sure it wrote. I didn't see anywhere about 105 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: them having a previous relationship. Why he reached out to 106 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: this guy, we will never know. But he wrote this thing, 107 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 1: he sent it, but because of the delays and its 108 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: prison mail, it's not exactly known to be on time, 109 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: so there was a delay. So the thing didn't actually 110 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: get postmarked till after Jeffrey Epstein was dead. So the 111 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: text of this is going to be interpreted, is going 112 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 1: to be analyzed, going to be talked about for quite 113 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: a while. 114 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 3: Babe, I have chills. 115 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: I have chills reading all of this that's just come out, 116 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 2: which proves the point that everyone was saying, this is 117 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: an everything. This can't be everything. Who's hiding something? These 118 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 2: emails and text prove that. Okay, Here is the text 119 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 2: of the letter that Jeffrey Epstein wrote to Larry Nasser. 120 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: As you will know by now, I have taken the 121 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 2: short root home and he put short root in quotes 122 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: good luck. We shared one thing, our love and caring 123 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 2: for young ladies and the hope they reached their full potential. 124 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 2: Our president also shares our love of young Newbile girls. 125 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: When a young beauty walked by, he loved to grab snatch, 126 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: whereas we ended up snatching grub in the mess halls 127 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: of the system. Life is unfair, yours, Jay Epstein. Holy moully, 128 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: I want to use an expletive, but I'm not. That 129 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: is in insane. 130 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: A couple of things. One, if he doesn't know this man, 131 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,559 Speaker 1: why is he writing this man, why would you write 132 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,599 Speaker 1: a fellow like to commiserate? Only he can understand. Really, 133 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: there might be some people in our lives. You might 134 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: reach out to another breast cancer survivor people do that 135 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: all the time, do people? Is he really thinking he's 136 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: looking for someone who has gone through what he's gone 137 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: through and just reached out to what he thought was 138 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: a friend. 139 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 3: There are a couple of theories. Either they did know 140 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: each other. 141 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: Do we know whether or not they didn't? Okay, so 142 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: they could have known each other. They could have admired 143 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: each other's work. Like murderers and serial murderers and people 144 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: who are deviants, maybe all fine companionship with one another 145 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: or shared experiences or shared deviances, and obviously wanting to 146 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: be with young girls. 147 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: And that you're a pedophile. 148 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 2: So do all pedophiles do they feel like they share 149 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: a love of the same thing. But to me, it 150 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: seems as though obviously he knew he was going to 151 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: kill himself at this point. It clearly states you by 152 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 2: now you'll know I've taken in the short road home, 153 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: so short route home. So he was planning to kill himself. 154 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: So was this a way also to take Trump with him. 155 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 2: Was this a way to did he hope that someone 156 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: would find this and then go after Trump? 157 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: Was this also a kind of final fu to Trump? 158 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: Who knows? 159 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: Because they had fallen out. 160 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: This man is sitting in prison. Who knows. We will 161 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: never know what's in this man's head. It I don't know. 162 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 1: He could have He could have buried this guy a 163 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: long time ago, it seems like, and he chose not to. 164 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: But there, even here, he could have been more direct, 165 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: He could have been more accusatory, he could have been 166 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: more clear. I don't know if he had intentions. I 167 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: don't know. We of course, we won't know. This is 168 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 1: what it is, and it looks awful. It is one 169 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: of the most awful things to have come out about 170 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: the relationship between these two men. 171 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: It's I mean, you might I think you could call 172 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: this a smoking gun because he was about to die 173 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: and he knew it, and he wanted to send this letter. 174 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: This was what he wanted to send. This is how 175 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: he wanted to go out. He wanted this to be known. 176 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: But also he wouldn't have known that Larry Nasser. Imagine 177 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 2: if Larry Nasser was at the address he sent this to, 178 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 2: and Larry Nasser received this postcard, this note. Would we 179 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: have ever seen it? It just so happens that he 180 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 2: was moved, was no longer at that address, and it 181 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: got returned to sender. And that is why we're all 182 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: aware of this right now. 183 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: But they read mail, They read your mail in prison. 184 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 1: Now at the time this was sent twenty nineteen, did 185 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 1: everybody piece it together and was well aware? If a 186 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: prison guard read this and said our president, would they 187 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: really think much of him? That oooh I got something here? 188 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 3: No, it depends on the guard. 189 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: Larry Nasser would have received it. Would he immediately understood 190 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: and ran out and said, hey, check this out and 191 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 1: try to make a deal. 192 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 3: Probably not? 193 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: Probably not? Who knows? Did he ever expect this to 194 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: go out? So if you didn't expect it to go out, 195 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: what was his intent in sending it to this man? 196 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: I have no idea, But this is fascinating in robes. 197 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:08,560 Speaker 1: Isn't this the day? 198 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 2: You know what? 199 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: Before I say that statement, I'm gonna save that statement 200 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,920 Speaker 1: because it's going to make more sense when we go 201 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: through this next headline that people are talking about. And 202 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: this is an email. Now, this email is dated January 203 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: seventh of twenty twenty. This is from a US attorney 204 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: for the Southern District, an assistant assistant US attorney who 205 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: has apparently reviewed call excuse not call logs flight logs 206 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: of Epstein as a part of putting together and trying 207 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: to go after Galine Maxwell and trying to build a case. Now, 208 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: we don't know. I think it's right Robes. We don't 209 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: know who this was sent to. 210 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 3: It's blocked out, it's redacted. 211 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: There we go, so we know it came from the 212 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: US attorney assistant attorney. Damn, go right ahead. 213 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 2: This is dated on January seventh, twenty twenty, at seven 214 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: fifty six pm. For your situational awareness, wanted to let 215 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 2: you know that the flight records we received yesterday reflect 216 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 2: that Donald Trump traveled on Epstein's private jet many more 217 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: times than previously has been reported or that we were aware, 218 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: including during the period we would expect to charge in 219 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: a Maxwell case. In particular, he is listed as a 220 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 2: passenger on at least eight flights between nineteen ninety three 221 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: and nineteen ninety six, including at least four flights on 222 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,200 Speaker 2: which Maxwell was also present. He is listed as having 223 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: traveled with, among others, and at various times Marlon Maples, 224 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 2: his daughter Tiffany, and his son Eric. On one flight 225 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: in nineteen ninety three, he and Epstein are the only 226 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 2: two listed passengers. On another, the only three passengers are Epstein, Trump, 227 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 2: and then twenty year old name redacted. On two other flights, 228 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: two of the passengers rescis, respectively, were women who would 229 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: be possible witnesses in a Maxwell case. Whoof We've just 230 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 2: finished reviewing the full records, more than one hundred pages 231 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 2: of very small script, and didn't want any of this 232 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 2: to be a surprise down the road. And it is 233 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: signed the name redacted. But then you see assistant US 234 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 2: Attorney Southern. 235 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 3: District of New York. How did this not get out sooner? 236 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: This is solid as it gets in terms of uh, 237 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 1: it's okay, there we go, all right now? I believe 238 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: Trump said he never went to Epstein Island. I'm not 239 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: sure if he's all the time has denied ever setting 240 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: foot on that plane. I don't know if he has. 241 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he has, But I don't think we 242 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: knew this. This is as solid as it gets. Now 243 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 1: you say smoking gun again. He is not accused of 244 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: any criminal activity. There's been no investigation no one has 245 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: said that, but ropes, I don't know how you explain 246 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: this away. How do you explain being on this man's 247 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: playing that many times? Again? This so this isn't really 248 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: being disputed. Nobody could dispute this, right. 249 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,079 Speaker 3: No, this seems pretty factual. 250 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: Ye. 251 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: Again, the US Attorney they're looking into this, and they're 252 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: actually trying to build a case against somebody else and say, hey, 253 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 1: just heads up, I'm looking at this law Who. 254 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: Did they send this to? That's the interesting thing. Why 255 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: was that person's name redacted? Why shouldn't we know who 256 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 2: the US it's the assistant US Attorney to the Southern 257 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: District of New York. Why don't we know their names? 258 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 2: They're not victims, they're not potential victims, and they could 259 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: potentially be held accountable for some sort of not cover up, 260 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: but certainly trying to keep certain information on. 261 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 3: The down low. Is that okay? Is that acceptable? 262 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: He was the president at the time, right, so twenty 263 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 1: twenty he lost and then twenty one, yeah, so he 264 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 1: was president still at the time, first term. This appears 265 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, and this is not how do you speculative? 266 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 1: I don't like doing that. 267 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: I don't either. 268 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: The point here being. This is written as if it's 269 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: a hey, heads up, yeah, so it would be somebody 270 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: in the president's circle. Hey, just want you to know. 271 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking into this thing and I found this stuff. 272 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: Don't you think that we as Americans should know who 273 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 2: this was sent to? 274 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: I do who in it took. Maybe it was his lawyer, 275 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: and that's why we shouldn't know that. I don't know that. 276 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: Why they chose to redact, I don't know. But this 277 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: is as damning as anything that we have seen in 278 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: these files. This is as damning as anything that's been 279 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 1: out there, because this is not speculation. These are facts. 280 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: These are written, These are set in stone heart some 281 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: con cred wording about at least the relationship. But again, 282 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: we always have to be careful. He'll ropes that he 283 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: is not accused of anything criminal and nothing wrong. Excuse me, 284 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: nothing criminally wrong, I should say, and we have to 285 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: say that. But this is the day that we've had 286 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: so and trust me, folks, as we are speaking, folks 287 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: are pouring through these things now, Rhodes, I said this 288 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: to you first, before some of this stuff came out. 289 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: I said, they are already defending themselves before we even 290 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: know what the hell's in there. 291 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 2: You said, there must be something really sensational going on, 292 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: because we were out running errants early in the morning 293 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 2: before the snow hit New York. And you said, babe, 294 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: the Department of Justice just put out a tweet that 295 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: makes me think something big is about to happen, And 296 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 2: you were correct. Here was the Department of Justice's tweet 297 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: earlier this morning. The Department of Justice has officially released 298 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 2: nearly thirty thousand more pages of documents related to Jeffrey Epstein. 299 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: Some of these documents contain untrue and sensationalist claims made 300 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 2: against President Trump that were submitted to the FBI right 301 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 2: before the twenty twenty election. To be clear, the claims 302 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: are unfounded and false, and if they had a shred 303 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 2: of credibility they serve would have been weabonized against President 304 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: Trump already, nevertheless, out of our commitment to the law 305 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 2: and transparency. That's hilarious because you were forced to sorry, well, 306 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: that's a fair laugh. The DOJ is releasing these documents 307 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: with the legally required protections for Epstein's victims. 308 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, before we even started reading anything from the 309 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: files today, they sent that out and we knew something 310 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: had to be coming, and much more might be coming. 311 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: Romes because by all accounts, President Trump's name appears multiple 312 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: times and the people are just trying to find the 313 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: right context for it. But folks, stay here. You didn't 314 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: think we were going to get through all these pages 315 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: without a Prince Andrew reference? Did you stay here? Hey? Folks? 316 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: We continue on this, hey, yeah, Christmas Eve Eve, and 317 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: a lot of journalists are spending their Christmas Eve Eve 318 00:16:57,360 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: not out shopping, not online shopping, but staring at a 319 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: screen and going through tens of thousands of pages. That 320 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: robes quite frankly. Even the fact that the pages came 321 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: out today is mean they broke the law because they 322 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: were supposed to be out Friday. And what are we 323 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: getting a trickle? This is the third dump they have done, 324 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: so I guess maybe they feel is I don't know. 325 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Chuck Schumer is trying to go after them. 326 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: He wants to pass legislation now to force what is it? 327 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: He what's the thing he wants, Chuck Schumer the resolution 328 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about it. 329 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 2: He wants to enforce the act which said that they 330 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: had to the Department of Justice had to release all 331 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 2: of the Epstein files and because they didn't. Now he 332 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: wants to put more legislation forward that would actually create 333 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:49,239 Speaker 2: a punishment for not actually delivering on the law that 334 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 2: was set in place for them to be transparent. 335 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: And what was the other one of the two sponsors? 336 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: They all contempt. 337 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: They want to hold Attorney General Pam Bondi in contempt. 338 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 2: Actually some specific that would that hasn't been actually done 339 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: in modern times, but would actually put her in prison 340 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: until all of the files are released. 341 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: All right, folks, you all know the name boal Moral. 342 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: People know that name by. 343 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 3: No I think so, and especially royal followers know beal Moral. 344 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 1: You know bout moral. I only bring that up because 345 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna need to recognize that as we go. 346 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 3: In on Queen Scottish residents. But she spends her summers. 347 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 1: Mora's it's it's their hampton. So the summer it's. 348 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 3: There's Scottish Highlands Hampton's Okay. 349 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: That's where they hang out. Well, I'll only say that 350 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: because it's there's a reference to it in this email 351 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: we're about to let you here. Now, this is an 352 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 1: email between what is believed I say that Robes I 353 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 1: think most are reporting it as fact that this was 354 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: Prince Andrew, former Prince Andrew. 355 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 3: Andrew, the former Prince Andrew, what is his friend? 356 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 1: First and last night? I don't know if I always 357 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: want to call him Badminton, this. 358 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: Is it's something close to that. But this is interesting 359 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 2: because when you see the from Andrew, former Prince Andrew's 360 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: actual email is creepy, right, the invisible man we creepy. God, 361 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 2: that's creepy. And then it's too Gallaine Maxwell and the 362 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: subject is summer camp. 363 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: You know, it sounds fun, sounds innocent enough. 364 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 3: This is disgusting. 365 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 2: It was sent on Thursday, August sixteenth, two thousand and one. 366 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: Oh, it's anniversary of Elvis Presley's death. I'm sorry. It 367 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: was just a random fact I saw from August sixteenth, 368 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,959 Speaker 1: because I'm trying to lighten the mood before people get 369 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: pissed about what they're about to hear. 370 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 3: This is disgusting. Woof Okay, so. 371 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: What everywhere I think? Is this the one? This is 372 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 1: the one that a lot of people, a lot of journalists, 373 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: they actually gave you a warning before you read this. 374 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,360 Speaker 1: It's like, hey, you're going to have a difficult time 375 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 1: or warning this could be triggering a graph for graphic 376 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: or something. This is I actually did this. 377 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 3: I told you like it. 378 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 2: Literally feel emotional reading this because it's so disgusting. So 379 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: this is reportedly from the former Prince Andrew to Gallaine Maxwell. 380 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 2: He writes, I am up here at Balmoral summer camp 381 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: for the royal family. I don't know how that isn't 382 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 2: Prince Andrew. Sorry, activities take place all day and I 383 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 2: am totally exhausted at the end of each day. The 384 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: girls are completely shattered and I will have to give 385 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: them an early night today as it is getting tiring 386 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 2: splitting them up all the time. How's la, Have you 387 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 2: found me some new inappropriate friends? Let me know when 388 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 2: you are coming over, as I am free from the 389 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 2: twenty fifth of August until the second of September and 390 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: want to go somewhere. 391 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 3: Hot and sunny with some fun. 392 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: People before having to put my nose firmly to the 393 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 2: grindstone for the fall. 394 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: And this was Glaine Maxwell's response to that. So sorry 395 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 1: to disappoint you, However, the truth must be told. I 396 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: have owned been able to find appropriate friends this on 397 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: their own ropes. They don't. There's not an admission. There's 398 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: not a confession. There's not a smoking gun necessarily, but 399 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: as we peel this onion and piece that together with 400 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: the rest of the story, we know that paints a 401 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: very clear picture of what they're talking about. 402 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 2: Inappropriate equals underage, appropriate means age appropriate. That's awfully, that's mine, 403 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: that's most people's, that's most people's understanding of what that 404 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 2: means coming from the invisible man. So their jargon isn't 405 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 2: exactly indiscernible. I think, yes, we can't say for sure. 406 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: Legally it wouldn't it wouldn't be enough, but common sense 407 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: will tell you we can understand what that code word 408 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 2: actually insinuates or means. 409 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: Folks, this is going to be a day, and it 410 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: might be a couple of days, but these are a 411 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: lot of pages to go over. And what we can 412 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: tell you that independent agencies are going through it, and 413 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: they're all coming out with the same headlines. They're seeing 414 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: the same stuff, and they are finding the same stuff 415 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: that is newsworthy, new headline making jaw dropping even in 416 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 1: some cases. But I think this robes today. This might 417 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 1: be the worst Epstein File day that the president has. 418 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 3: Had, oh without a doubt. 419 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: And I actually was just imagining the mixed emotions that 420 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 2: the victims must feel. This must feel so validating and 421 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 2: at the same time so infuriating. 422 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 3: That it has to be both of those feelings. 423 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 2: But they're powerful and look, at the end of the day, 424 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 2: the truth is coming out. 425 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: This will not be the last day, no doubt of this, folks. 426 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: We will hop back on if needed. We didn't expect 427 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: to be doing this, but this is actually a story 428 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: that is ongoing as we speak. Top right corner of 429 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: your Apple Podcasts app where you see our show page 430 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: that button it says follow. You get that you can 431 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: always get our updates as we put them out, and 432 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: there might be another Epstein one today. But as always, 433 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: we appreciate you spending the time here with us on 434 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: TJ Holmes on the Average, Amy Robots. We'll talk to 435 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: us soon.