WEBVTT - Love Triangle

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Carefully Reckless, the production of Our Heart Radio

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<v Speaker 1>and the Black Effects. And just like that, we're back

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<v Speaker 1>with yet another carefully Reckless episode with your girl just hilarious. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>just fix my mess. I'm gonna jump straight into it.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have any voice memos today. I find when

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<v Speaker 1>I do the voice memos, one person takes up the

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<v Speaker 1>whole episode. I'm not gonna stop doing them, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do them every other week because i want to

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<v Speaker 1>give more people a chance to get their stories out there.

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<v Speaker 1>But the lengthy ones I will do every other week.

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, don't let that discourage you from sending your

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<v Speaker 1>voice memos. If you want me to hear your voice,

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<v Speaker 1>if you rather talk about it than write about it

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<v Speaker 1>or type about it, then you can certainly do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just no, it may take a few weeks for you

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<v Speaker 1>to hear yours, because I'm only gonna do the voice

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<v Speaker 1>notes every other week. Okay, this woman sent in her

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<v Speaker 1>story forst one, Jess. I pray this DM finds you.

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<v Speaker 1>You are one of the ones I respect because you

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<v Speaker 1>keep it so real. Please fix my friend of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years mess. Okay, I'm gonna make it quick, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>about to be like shit. Okay, my best friend been

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<v Speaker 1>married for eleven years with a boyfriend of nine years

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<v Speaker 1>who was married to his wife over fifteen years. Hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>bit what wait a minute, Let me let me slow

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<v Speaker 1>this ship down, because, for one, why you ain't putting

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<v Speaker 1>no goddamn punctuation points in here. It's just one big,

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<v Speaker 1>long run on sentence ship. And then you're gonna write

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<v Speaker 1>in all caps like it's really really that good, if

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<v Speaker 1>it's all going together. I can't understand. Let me try

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<v Speaker 1>to make sense of this. Okay, my best friend been

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<v Speaker 1>married for eleven years with a boyfriend of nine years

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<v Speaker 1>who is married to his wife of over fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been in this friendship and seen it all play

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<v Speaker 1>out very peaceful. Both men loved that girl to death.

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<v Speaker 1>Her husband will kill her if he ever found out

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<v Speaker 1>about the boyfriend, and the boyfriend treats her like gold.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scared for her, though, And the one time I

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<v Speaker 1>tell her to stop, we fall out and her boyfriend's

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<v Speaker 1>wife gets a message about them. I would have never

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<v Speaker 1>done that, but she thinks it was me and haven't

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<v Speaker 1>spoken to me in months. I love my friend, but

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<v Speaker 1>the ship is foul and how is it love? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>married of ten years, but her ship got me on

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<v Speaker 1>my husband case all the time. Anyway, should I try

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<v Speaker 1>to fix us or say fuck us and our friendship?

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<v Speaker 1>For her to think I would go and tell that

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<v Speaker 1>woman anything about her and the woman's husband. I got

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<v Speaker 1>pics of them and everything. If I wanted to, I

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<v Speaker 1>could let her know everything, but I would never because

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<v Speaker 1>she's my friend. I just want her to stop it

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<v Speaker 1>because she's being dangerous. All right, So you are not

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<v Speaker 1>writing me for you, You're writing me for your friend.

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<v Speaker 1>First off, I want to say you are a good

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<v Speaker 1>friend for trying to get help with your friend's issue,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's exact actually what it is. That's a motherfucking

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<v Speaker 1>issue a k A. A problem b k A A

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<v Speaker 1>big motherfucking problem. What's going on? So your best friend

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<v Speaker 1>married for eleven years, but she has a boyfriend that

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<v Speaker 1>she's been with for nine years. That means she started

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<v Speaker 1>cheating very early in her marriage. She was only married

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<v Speaker 1>to her husband for two years before she decided to

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<v Speaker 1>get with his boyfriend. Now the husband don't know does

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<v Speaker 1>the boyfriend know that she's married? See that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't tell me. I want to know if the boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>knows that she's married, because what would be easier, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not justifying or trying to give anybody any ideas

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<v Speaker 1>with how to get away would having a boyfriend and

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<v Speaker 1>her husband, But it would be easier if one of

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<v Speaker 1>them knew. It's like, how the hell do you keep

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<v Speaker 1>up a nine year relationship and an eleven year marriage

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<v Speaker 1>without either of them finding out about each other. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would think her boyfriend knows that she's married. However

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<v Speaker 1>she feeds him the fact that it's complicated. I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he just has to know because he's married

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So what she has to lose, he in

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<v Speaker 1>fact has to lose as well. So the only person

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<v Speaker 1>who don't know would be your best friend's husband and

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<v Speaker 1>her boyfriend's wife. Well, the wife knows now, but the

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<v Speaker 1>only person in the dark is the husband. Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>And you want to know from me if you should

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<v Speaker 1>try to reconcile with your best friend. She's been your

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<v Speaker 1>best friend for fifteen years. I don't feel the need

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<v Speaker 1>to throw away the friendship over this one. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>your problem. I know that you love her. She's very

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<v Speaker 1>close to you. It seems you know and she's your

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<v Speaker 1>best friend. I mean, should I have one. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>best friends with my best friend, SHANEA for nine years,

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<v Speaker 1>so I definitely know how attached people are. So they're

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<v Speaker 1>best friends. Man. As far as you holding the grudge

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<v Speaker 1>against her, being mad at her because she's mad at

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<v Speaker 1>you for something that you didn't even do, that's just friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>That's friendship. Friendship, Okay. That that's a set down between

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<v Speaker 1>you two. That's a one on one lunch, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>link up, and y'all just sit down and talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>because honestly, it's not like she feels that way for

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<v Speaker 1>no reason. I mean you said when you told her listen,

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<v Speaker 1>they just need to stop. You got a husband and

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<v Speaker 1>you got a boyfriend, and it's like, yo, you know

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<v Speaker 1>your husband will kill you if he finds out that

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<v Speaker 1>you're cheating. Blah blah blah. You said, y'all fell out,

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<v Speaker 1>she blew up on you. Okay, that's because she's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>away with it for so long she doesn't feel the

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<v Speaker 1>need to stop. She's getting away with it. She's having

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<v Speaker 1>her cake and she's eating it too. You understand what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So in her mind, you're my best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>You're my ride or die. Even if I am doing

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<v Speaker 1>something wrong, you can tell me, but don't ever go

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<v Speaker 1>behind my back and snitch on me. You get what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. So and coincidentally, even if you didn't reach

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<v Speaker 1>out to the wife, it just coincidentally happened that the

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<v Speaker 1>wife had found out that her husband was cheating. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if she knew that he was she for

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<v Speaker 1>nine goddamn years. But I know for a fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it was just coincidental. And it may have seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>because if I was your best friend, I would think

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing. I would be like, Yo, it's mighty

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<v Speaker 1>funny that after you tell me that you don't like

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing and how I'm moving this nigga's wife,

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<v Speaker 1>after nine years of her not knowing anything, his wife

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<v Speaker 1>just hits me up. Even if you did go to

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<v Speaker 1>the wife, I ain't gonna hold you. I don't see

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<v Speaker 1>that completely wrong. However, it pulls your loyalty card with

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<v Speaker 1>your best friend, because before I will go and tell

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<v Speaker 1>this man's wife, I was set down with my best

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<v Speaker 1>friend's husband and tell him I ain't gonna hold you. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm built very differently. I don't give a funk. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't do that. I don't condone that type of ship.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that this is something that I

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<v Speaker 1>would definitely do. Oh, go to the husband, go to

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend's husband. No, I would just go to

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<v Speaker 1>my best friend's husband before I would go to my

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<v Speaker 1>best friend boyfriend's wife. That's two goddamn uh. And then

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<v Speaker 1>do you know both they in a relationship for nine years?

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<v Speaker 1>That means that boyfriend know you, because I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be in a relationship with nobody for nine years and

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<v Speaker 1>not know their best friend, not being around their best friend,

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<v Speaker 1>not ever being the same vicinity with their best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, This has been a nine

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<v Speaker 1>year fucking affair. I know that you you've been around

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<v Speaker 1>this man all the while, knowing that it's hard to

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<v Speaker 1>even be around him. And you know you're close with

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<v Speaker 1>her husband because that's who she married, and that's your

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<v Speaker 1>best friend. So you're in the middle. Whether you want

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<v Speaker 1>to believe it or not, you're in the middle. My

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<v Speaker 1>thing is that would make me take a step back

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<v Speaker 1>from my best friend too, just when people live their

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<v Speaker 1>lives recklessly and wildly like that, knowing that they're hurting

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<v Speaker 1>people knowing that they can possibly hurt someone. And you

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<v Speaker 1>even said it her husband would kill her. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you meant in literal terms, but and ain't

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<v Speaker 1>like Wayne saying nothing like this before. People get caught cheating,

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<v Speaker 1>People kill each other. People, Oh my god, people kill

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<v Speaker 1>over love. People commit suicide over love. People do crazy things,

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<v Speaker 1>They kidnap people's children over love. It's all types of

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<v Speaker 1>ship in this world that we got going on right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's worse than it's ever been. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>you should try to salvage the relationship with your best friend.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, because you two do owe each other a conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying just you. Notice I said you too.

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<v Speaker 1>You both you both owe each other conversation. You both

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<v Speaker 1>owe each other redemption, you know. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you know if this relationship is still going on between

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<v Speaker 1>her and the boyfriend, because you said when the wife

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<v Speaker 1>found out, you cut the story off there and you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to know what you should do about your friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming you don't know because you haven't talked to

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<v Speaker 1>or or whatever. But hopefully that wife found out for

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking better and they're working on their marriage, and

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<v Speaker 1>your best friend is working on her marriage with her husband.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the two divorces going to funk on something? That

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<v Speaker 1>something either way? Because I kind of want to fix

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<v Speaker 1>her mess and not y'alls. God damn, this is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>But have a conversation with her. Swallow your pride and

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<v Speaker 1>tell her listen. It really hurt me that you thought

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<v Speaker 1>that I would seriously go snitch on you behind your back.

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<v Speaker 1>You cut me off when I was trying to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that what you're doing is not right, it's not acceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you like if your husband had a non

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<v Speaker 1>affair on you? How would you like to find that out? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not good. I'm married too, And what the funk

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<v Speaker 1>you got going on? I mean, looking at my my

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<v Speaker 1>husband crazy because you never know you're sleeping with a stranger.

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<v Speaker 1>Your husband been sleeping with your sneaky ass for nine

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<v Speaker 1>years and had no ankling, had no idea that you've

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<v Speaker 1>been cheating on him for nine fucking years. It's weird,

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<v Speaker 1>it's disgusting, it's a slap in the face. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>insult to the covenant that we had were married bitches,

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<v Speaker 1>And I just felt like, if you didn't want your

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<v Speaker 1>husband girl, you could have stayed single, or you could

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<v Speaker 1>have got divorced. I was just being a friend telling

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<v Speaker 1>you I would never go and snitch on you. These

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<v Speaker 1>neat to be your key points when you talk. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to let her know your frustration, but don't come

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<v Speaker 1>at her. Talk to her. Just talk to her. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>come at her now. It may get heated, but she

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<v Speaker 1>probably got so much to tell you. You just never know.

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<v Speaker 1>And honestly, she probably needs you more than anything right now,

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<v Speaker 1>but won't say it because y'all both got chips on

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<v Speaker 1>your shoulders. Y'all want to be mad at each other,

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<v Speaker 1>but y'all miss each other. I can tell you've been

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<v Speaker 1>this girl's best friend for fifteen years. I know y'all

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<v Speaker 1>got inside as and all types of ship. Y'all. Y'all

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<v Speaker 1>probably want to send each other means and and funny

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<v Speaker 1>ship online all day. Like y'all, bitch, listen, go make

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<v Speaker 1>up with your friends. And whether you guys make up

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<v Speaker 1>or not, you can say you tried. You can say

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<v Speaker 1>I redeemed myself. I just wanted you to know the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>If we walk away from here and we're never friends again,

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<v Speaker 1>I want you to know the truth. I did not

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<v Speaker 1>do what you accused me of. But I just want

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<v Speaker 1>you to get your life together. Boom out, that's it,

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<v Speaker 1>that's done. All right, check back in with me, girl,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you Jesus. That's that's crazy. That's crazy. Hold up,

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<v Speaker 1>Hold up. I know the ship getting good. But listen

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<v Speaker 1>to just a couple of seconds of a commercial. If

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<v Speaker 1>you love me, you'll listen. Alright. Moving on, Hey, jos,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here with an update as well as another question.

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<v Speaker 1>So to clear things up, I was with my boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>for four years and never met his kids or family.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I remember this story. Yes. I finally put it

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<v Speaker 1>all on the table and told him how I felt.

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<v Speaker 1>He claimed he never thought to include his kids in

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<v Speaker 1>his personal life. What he asked for time to work

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<v Speaker 1>on my issues, and I said okay. Fast forward a

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<v Speaker 1>week later. We get into a very small disagreement and

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<v Speaker 1>he ignored me for a week. Well it couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been that damn small. He finally texted me out the

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<v Speaker 1>blue a week later and tells me I don't truly

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<v Speaker 1>love him. At this point, I just said fuck it.

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<v Speaker 1>I told him he never truly loved me and the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship he was giving I didn't want. Next thing. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>He's telling me I'll never hear from him again, and

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<v Speaker 1>if I see him out, then act like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know him. The nerve of this motherfucker shaking my head.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been ten days and we haven't spoke since. I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm better off without the relationship, But is it

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<v Speaker 1>crazy that I still want him as a friend. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>alone in this state and could use his wisdom and advice.

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<v Speaker 1>He's forty three and I'm twenty nine. Let me know,

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<v Speaker 1>just boom that your question right there. So listen, his

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<v Speaker 1>little forty three year old ass is playing games with

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<v Speaker 1>your baby ass. Okay, that's what it sounds like to me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's playing games with you. No, listen, not every older

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<v Speaker 1>guy sought out to play games with these younger girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Some some older guys just genuinely are attracted to younger females,

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<v Speaker 1>not little girls, younger females, younger women. Um, and you

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<v Speaker 1>are a young lady, are almost thirty. Not saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you're too fucking young for him, but I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he's playing on your feelings and taking advantage of how

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<v Speaker 1>you feel and taking advantage of the fact also that

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<v Speaker 1>you moved to the state to be with him right,

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<v Speaker 1>And he knows you don't know any want and you

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<v Speaker 1>can't just up and leaving, you know, uproot again and

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<v Speaker 1>go back home, or go back where you want to go,

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<v Speaker 1>or go wherever. He knows that. So he's playing on

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<v Speaker 1>that fact you you don't need him. I think you

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<v Speaker 1>got comfortable with knowing that he's always gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's always, um gonna take care of you or gonna

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel better. And I think that he also

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<v Speaker 1>has spoiled you, and you spoiled him as well. With accessibility.

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<v Speaker 1>He knows he always has access to you. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>he can call you and make you feel a certain

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<v Speaker 1>way and you'll be feeling that way for a week.

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<v Speaker 1>He he knows, he, like you just said, he ignored

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<v Speaker 1>you for a fucking week. How to funn you do

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<v Speaker 1>that to somebody that you love? How the fun you

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<v Speaker 1>do that to somebody that you're in a relationship with.

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<v Speaker 1>How the hell can you do that? Going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that you wrote me, you said that

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<v Speaker 1>you were in a relationship with this man for four

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<v Speaker 1>years and haven't met his kids. He told you kids

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<v Speaker 1>or any other family. I mean you you met in

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<v Speaker 1>passing a brother and a cousin. Who's to say they

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<v Speaker 1>were his real family members? Though you don't know, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to pay attention and the ship like that. His

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<v Speaker 1>kids are his immediate family. Why the funk wouldn't he

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<v Speaker 1>think to include them in his personal life when they're

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<v Speaker 1>his people. They're his persons that came out of his

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<v Speaker 1>damn balls. How the hell don't you include your kids,

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<v Speaker 1>whether they're grown or not. I've been your girlfriend for

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<v Speaker 1>four years. How the funk I don't know your children,

0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.800
<v Speaker 1>never seen them, never laid eyes on them a day

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<v Speaker 1>of my life. They've never spoken to me or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Wake your ass up, baby, Wake your ass up. Get

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<v Speaker 1>out there, get to know other people. I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>date established friendships. Go to a couple of barns and nobles.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dead serious. Go take walks around the park. Start

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<v Speaker 1>doing ship for you, because once you start focusing on yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how you make people mad. That's the sweetest revenge

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<v Speaker 1>to work on yourself. Because you're a little damaged to

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<v Speaker 1>be sitting here dealing with this ship. It must be

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<v Speaker 1>something in you. I don't know if it's self esteem,

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<v Speaker 1>or if it's you know you're comfortable, or you you know,

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<v Speaker 1>complacent or you know you're twenty nine and you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>even reached your third decade of life yet. Seriously, I

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<v Speaker 1>want you to get yourself to cather, get out there,

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<v Speaker 1>should go back to school, do something with yourself. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't need him as a friend. You don't. He ain't

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be no friend because he already know how to

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<v Speaker 1>unlock certain feelings and play on your heart strings. So

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<v Speaker 1>you don't need a friend like that. No, you don't.

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<v Speaker 1>He need to get itself together, and what you need

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<v Speaker 1>to do is take his advice. Do what he tell

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<v Speaker 1>you to do. Act like you don't know his ass.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, don't ever hit him up again. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's easier said than done, but I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in your shoes, and I'm telling you you'll feel better

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<v Speaker 1>knowing what I know. Now. Oh, I would have loved

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<v Speaker 1>for just to fix my fucking mess and tell me. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>do what he's saying, because once you really do it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I told you to do it, because he

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<v Speaker 1>knows you're not ever going to do it. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do that. You don't want to cut him off.

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<v Speaker 1>You're in love with him, but for real, for real,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, cut that motherfucker off and start living

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<v Speaker 1>for you and watch his as crawled right back up

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<v Speaker 1>in your ass. To believe that. If that's what you

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<v Speaker 1>want to go with it. If not, by boom, check

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<v Speaker 1>back in again. Thank you? All right, we got one

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<v Speaker 1>last one and then we're gonna get out of here,

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<v Speaker 1>says I need some advice on the podcast. Don't say

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<v Speaker 1>my name because he listens to. So. I was with

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<v Speaker 1>a guy for two years. Prior to that, I've been

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<v Speaker 1>in nothing but abusive relationships for over four years. My

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<v Speaker 1>last dude chased me for about two years. Then when

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<v Speaker 1>he finally got me, he did me bad, like real bad.

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<v Speaker 1>I found out he was positive. I found out he

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<v Speaker 1>cheated with a plethora of people. He has lied about

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<v Speaker 1>having sex with certain people and lied. He's abusive, narcissist,

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<v Speaker 1>and a manipulator. I'm twenty five, he's forty. I have

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<v Speaker 1>my own and he does too. But he knows I

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<v Speaker 1>have low self esteem as far as my looks and body,

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<v Speaker 1>and he plays on that badly. We've been broken up

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<v Speaker 1>for a year, but won't leave each other alone. What

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<v Speaker 1>should I do? By the way, just three days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>a I I know sent me messages of him fucking

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<v Speaker 1>him after he's saying he still hadn't had sex, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's a liar. Jess, Oh my lord, alrighty, already, already, already, sweetie, Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>what is up with these forty year old men messing

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<v Speaker 1>with these nine year old motherfucker's these people in the twenties. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>judging from your page, which is private and you have

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<v Speaker 1>a cartoon thumbnail, I don't know if you're a guy

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<v Speaker 1>or a girl. However, I don't want to assume, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna speak as if I'm talking to a

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<v Speaker 1>woman or man. It doesn't matter. Now you said he

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<v Speaker 1>was positive. You didn't say he was positive? What like

0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:45.800
<v Speaker 1>he what covid? Uh? Gnarhea. It's a plethora of STDs,

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<v Speaker 1>just like those plethora of people that he was fucking

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<v Speaker 1>lying about. He was cheating on you with those people. Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why you ask me what you should do, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>just just listen. It's like sometimes people need to hear

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<v Speaker 1>their story back to them. Sometimes you need to repeat

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<v Speaker 1>people so they can hear just how crazy this is.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to take yourself out of your situation and

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<v Speaker 1>look from the outside in and I'm going to help

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<v Speaker 1>you do that. I understand why this is so hard

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<v Speaker 1>for you because you have been and nothing but abusive relationships,

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<v Speaker 1>whether that's emotionally, physically, sexually, whatever. You know, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>in abusive relationships over the past four years, so you've

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gotten used to abuse, which no one should

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<v Speaker 1>ever have to go through. Nobody should ever have to

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<v Speaker 1>feel this way. So you're you're kind of a magnet

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<v Speaker 1>for abuse, And don't take that the wrong way. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>People attract certain spirits and certain behaviors and and then

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<v Speaker 1>they wonder why, because if I'm right, you're a people

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<v Speaker 1>pleaser and you think you can help everybody, and you

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<v Speaker 1>like to give everybody the benefit of the doubt because

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<v Speaker 1>you also have low self esteem and you think you're

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<v Speaker 1>not good enough for the people that you really really

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<v Speaker 1>want to date, that you really really see yourself with,

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<v Speaker 1>or people that you've even tried to get within the

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<v Speaker 1>past and it hasn't worked because you have low self

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<v Speaker 1>esteem being rejected all that ship. So you're taking who

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<v Speaker 1>takes you, You're accepting who accepts you, and ultimately you're settling.

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<v Speaker 1>You're settling, and you are giving benefit of the doubt

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<v Speaker 1>to everyone because people change. Yeah, people change, but people

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<v Speaker 1>can't change people. People change themselves. Now, you can help

0:19:33.480 --> 0:19:36.960
<v Speaker 1>people change, but you're not even in the right state

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<v Speaker 1>of mind or where you need to be for you

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<v Speaker 1>to help someone else. You know what I'm saying, because

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<v Speaker 1>you're still suffering real with something. You're still you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's something about you reading your story. It's deeper than

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<v Speaker 1>just dating. This is something else as well. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to figure out what that is. Babe.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I can help you with with

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<v Speaker 1>within yourself. I don't know, but I do. I want

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<v Speaker 1>you to know that I think that you should stay

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<v Speaker 1>the funk away from this nigga. I'm telling you that

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<v Speaker 1>because when somebody shows you who they are and you

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<v Speaker 1>keep turning a blind eye to it, you're not being

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<v Speaker 1>real with yourself. Now, you're lying to yourself about this

0:20:14.440 --> 0:20:17.479
<v Speaker 1>person they're showing you. Now, they're not telling you who

0:20:17.520 --> 0:20:20.639
<v Speaker 1>they are. They're showing you, which is better because you

0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.960
<v Speaker 1>can tell me anything. But when you start showing me

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<v Speaker 1>the type of person you are, that gives me the

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<v Speaker 1>liberty to say, Okay, I don't want to deal with this,

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<v Speaker 1>or I can deal with this, but you are settling

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<v Speaker 1>and you're staying in it because you just want someone

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<v Speaker 1>to love you. You have a true desperation for love.

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<v Speaker 1>You have an unruly desperation for love. And you cannot

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<v Speaker 1>and will not be happy like that. You're not You're

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<v Speaker 1>never gonna find happiness, never gonna be happy for long

0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.280
<v Speaker 1>like that. You're gonna end up miserable, and you can

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.960
<v Speaker 1>end up losing your life like that as well. Because

0:20:53.119 --> 0:20:55.760
<v Speaker 1>this abusive ship, this is a cry for help, and

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<v Speaker 1>I need you to go get help. Okay, leave that

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<v Speaker 1>motherfucker alone. Seriously, he's showing you who he is. You

0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.800
<v Speaker 1>don't need any more confirmation, you don't need. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if he begs you, whatever the funk. I don't

0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.760
<v Speaker 1>give a fuck. Y'all been broken up for a year,

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<v Speaker 1>but y'all can't leave each other alone. Uh, that's because

0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:15.080
<v Speaker 1>you know you ain't going to where leave you said.

0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>He plays on the fact that you don't. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>confident in your body and your face and how you look.

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<v Speaker 1>Leave because there is someone out there that's gonna love

0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:28.920
<v Speaker 1>you for your body, your face, your personality. When you

0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:31.320
<v Speaker 1>wake up in the morning, somebody's gonna want to smell

0:21:31.359 --> 0:21:33.840
<v Speaker 1>that motherfucking morning breath when you go to bed and nice,

0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:36.880
<v Speaker 1>somebody's gonna wanna cut it up and hold your ass.

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<v Speaker 1>You understand, So, man or woman, whatever whoever you are,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. You need to let that go and

0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:47.639
<v Speaker 1>start healing on yourself. And listen, you will never be healed.

0:21:47.760 --> 0:21:50.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what I want people to understand. There's no way

0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:54.160
<v Speaker 1>that you can be healed. Everybody always running around something.

0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:56.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh I want to I want to date somebody that's healed.

0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I want to make it that's already healed. Already. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna be healing for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody who's been through something is going to be healing

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:08.520
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of their lives. Why, Because the world

0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:13.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't stop is new trauma every day, new situations, new

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:15.439
<v Speaker 1>ship that we can't even control, that are out of

0:22:15.440 --> 0:22:18.119
<v Speaker 1>our hands, that are affecting us, that we didn't even

0:22:18.160 --> 0:22:20.760
<v Speaker 1>think had anything to do with us. Oh, but it does.

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<v Speaker 1>So the things that you think don't affect you will.

0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:32.199
<v Speaker 1>It's almost humanly impossible to find someone that's completely fucking healed. Seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>Now you can be with someone that can assist you

0:22:36.920 --> 0:22:39.800
<v Speaker 1>in your healing. Process that can help you heal. That's

0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:44.040
<v Speaker 1>called building together. That's called working, building a strong foundation,

0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:48.280
<v Speaker 1>open honest communication, doing everything the right way, not lying

0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:50.520
<v Speaker 1>about ship I'm talking about. That's how you start a

0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 1>true healing process. And who's to ever say that you

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:58.720
<v Speaker 1>will be healed one cent? But if you do it

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<v Speaker 1>the right way, you'll end up turning out better than

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.640
<v Speaker 1>you would if you keep living life like this, sweetie.

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<v Speaker 1>So I want you to check back in with me, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want you to know something. I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you, don't know your name, I don't care,

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<v Speaker 1>but I love you just as a person you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You're enough. You're enough. Stop thinking that you aren't because

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<v Speaker 1>a person says it. That's just another person with the

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<v Speaker 1>same skin you got. If you cut them, they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bleed just like you. Just know that. And just like that,

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<v Speaker 1>we've come to the end of another Carefully Reckless session

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<v Speaker 1>with Dr Jess because I'm fixing mess all day and

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<v Speaker 1>then my deepest pam boys peace. Carefully Reckless is a

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