1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Carefully Reckless, the production of Our Heart Radio 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: and the Black Effects. And just like that, we're back 3 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 1: with yet another carefully Reckless episode with your girl just hilarious. Listen, 4 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:22,479 Speaker 1: just fix my mess. I'm gonna jump straight into it. 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: We don't have any voice memos today. I find when 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: I do the voice memos, one person takes up the 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: whole episode. I'm not gonna stop doing them, but I'm 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: gonna do them every other week because i want to 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: give more people a chance to get their stories out there. 10 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: But the lengthy ones I will do every other week. 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: And listen, don't let that discourage you from sending your 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: voice memos. If you want me to hear your voice, 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: if you rather talk about it than write about it 14 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: or type about it, then you can certainly do it. 15 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: Just no, it may take a few weeks for you 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: to hear yours, because I'm only gonna do the voice 17 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: notes every other week. Okay, this woman sent in her 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: story forst one, Jess. I pray this DM finds you. 19 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: You are one of the ones I respect because you 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: keep it so real. Please fix my friend of twenty 21 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: years mess. Okay, I'm gonna make it quick, but you're 22 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: about to be like shit. Okay, my best friend been 23 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: married for eleven years with a boyfriend of nine years 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: who was married to his wife over fifteen years. Hold on, 25 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 1: bit what wait a minute, Let me let me slow 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: this ship down, because, for one, why you ain't putting 27 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: no goddamn punctuation points in here. It's just one big, 28 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: long run on sentence ship. And then you're gonna write 29 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: in all caps like it's really really that good, if 30 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:37,960 Speaker 1: it's all going together. I can't understand. Let me try 31 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: to make sense of this. Okay, my best friend been 32 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: married for eleven years with a boyfriend of nine years 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: who is married to his wife of over fifteen years. 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: I've been in this friendship and seen it all play 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: out very peaceful. Both men loved that girl to death. 36 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Her husband will kill her if he ever found out 37 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: about the boyfriend, and the boyfriend treats her like gold. 38 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: I'm scared for her, though, And the one time I 39 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: tell her to stop, we fall out and her boyfriend's 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: wife gets a message about them. I would have never 41 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: done that, but she thinks it was me and haven't 42 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: spoken to me in months. I love my friend, but 43 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: the ship is foul and how is it love? I'm 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: married of ten years, but her ship got me on 45 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 1: my husband case all the time. Anyway, should I try 46 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: to fix us or say fuck us and our friendship? 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: For her to think I would go and tell that 48 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: woman anything about her and the woman's husband. I got 49 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: pics of them and everything. If I wanted to, I 50 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: could let her know everything, but I would never because 51 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 1: she's my friend. I just want her to stop it 52 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: because she's being dangerous. All right, So you are not 53 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: writing me for you, You're writing me for your friend. 54 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: First off, I want to say you are a good 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: friend for trying to get help with your friend's issue, 56 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 1: because that's exact actually what it is. That's a motherfucking 57 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: issue a k A. A problem b k A A 58 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: big motherfucking problem. What's going on? So your best friend 59 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: married for eleven years, but she has a boyfriend that 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: she's been with for nine years. That means she started 61 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: cheating very early in her marriage. She was only married 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: to her husband for two years before she decided to 63 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: get with his boyfriend. Now the husband don't know does 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: the boyfriend know that she's married? See that's what you 65 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,480 Speaker 1: didn't tell me. I want to know if the boyfriend 66 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: knows that she's married, because what would be easier, and 67 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm not justifying or trying to give anybody any ideas 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: with how to get away would having a boyfriend and 69 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: her husband, But it would be easier if one of 70 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: them knew. It's like, how the hell do you keep 71 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: up a nine year relationship and an eleven year marriage 72 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: without either of them finding out about each other. So 73 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: I would think her boyfriend knows that she's married. However 74 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: she feeds him the fact that it's complicated. I just 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: feel like he just has to know because he's married 76 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 1: as well. So what she has to lose, he in 77 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: fact has to lose as well. So the only person 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: who don't know would be your best friend's husband and 79 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: her boyfriend's wife. Well, the wife knows now, but the 80 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: only person in the dark is the husband. Jesus Christ, 81 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 1: And you want to know from me if you should 82 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: try to reconcile with your best friend. She's been your 83 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: best friend for fifteen years. I don't feel the need 84 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: to throw away the friendship over this one. It's not 85 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: your problem. I know that you love her. She's very 86 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: close to you. It seems you know and she's your 87 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: best friend. I mean, should I have one. I've been 88 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,559 Speaker 1: best friends with my best friend, SHANEA for nine years, 89 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: so I definitely know how attached people are. So they're 90 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: best friends. Man. As far as you holding the grudge 91 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: against her, being mad at her because she's mad at 92 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: you for something that you didn't even do, that's just friendship. 93 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: That's friendship. Friendship, Okay. That that's a set down between 94 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: you two. That's a one on one lunch, that's a 95 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: link up, and y'all just sit down and talk about it, 96 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 1: because honestly, it's not like she feels that way for 97 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: no reason. I mean you said when you told her listen, 98 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: they just need to stop. You got a husband and 99 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: you got a boyfriend, and it's like, yo, you know 100 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: your husband will kill you if he finds out that 101 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,159 Speaker 1: you're cheating. Blah blah blah. You said, y'all fell out, 102 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: she blew up on you. Okay, that's because she's gotten 103 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,359 Speaker 1: away with it for so long she doesn't feel the 104 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: need to stop. She's getting away with it. She's having 105 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: her cake and she's eating it too. You understand what 106 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So in her mind, you're my best friend. 107 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: You're my ride or die. Even if I am doing 108 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: something wrong, you can tell me, but don't ever go 109 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: behind my back and snitch on me. You get what 110 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So and coincidentally, even if you didn't reach 111 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: out to the wife, it just coincidentally happened that the 112 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: wife had found out that her husband was cheating. I 113 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 1: don't know if she knew that he was she for 114 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: nine goddamn years. But I know for a fact that 115 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,279 Speaker 1: it was just coincidental. And it may have seemed like 116 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: because if I was your best friend, I would think 117 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 1: the same thing. I would be like, Yo, it's mighty 118 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,719 Speaker 1: funny that after you tell me that you don't like 119 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: what I'm doing and how I'm moving this nigga's wife, 120 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: after nine years of her not knowing anything, his wife 121 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: just hits me up. Even if you did go to 122 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: the wife, I ain't gonna hold you. I don't see 123 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: that completely wrong. However, it pulls your loyalty card with 124 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: your best friend, because before I will go and tell 125 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: this man's wife, I was set down with my best 126 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 1: friend's husband and tell him I ain't gonna hold you. Now, 127 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: I'm built very differently. I don't give a funk. I 128 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: just don't do that. I don't condone that type of ship. 129 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that this is something that I 130 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: would definitely do. Oh, go to the husband, go to 131 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: my best friend's husband. No, I would just go to 132 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: my best friend's husband before I would go to my 133 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: best friend boyfriend's wife. That's two goddamn uh. And then 134 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: do you know both they in a relationship for nine years? 135 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: That means that boyfriend know you, because I'm not gonna 136 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: be in a relationship with nobody for nine years and 137 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 1: not know their best friend, not being around their best friend, 138 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: not ever being the same vicinity with their best friend. 139 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, This has been a nine 140 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: year fucking affair. I know that you you've been around 141 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: this man all the while, knowing that it's hard to 142 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: even be around him. And you know you're close with 143 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: her husband because that's who she married, and that's your 144 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: best friend. So you're in the middle. Whether you want 145 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: to believe it or not, you're in the middle. My 146 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: thing is that would make me take a step back 147 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: from my best friend too, just when people live their 148 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: lives recklessly and wildly like that, knowing that they're hurting 149 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: people knowing that they can possibly hurt someone. And you 150 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: even said it her husband would kill her. I don't 151 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: know if you meant in literal terms, but and ain't 152 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: like Wayne saying nothing like this before. People get caught cheating, 153 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: People kill each other. People, Oh my god, people kill 154 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: over love. People commit suicide over love. People do crazy things, 155 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: They kidnap people's children over love. It's all types of 156 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: ship in this world that we got going on right now, 157 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: and it's worse than it's ever been. So I think 158 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: you should try to salvage the relationship with your best friend. 159 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: I mean, because you two do owe each other a conversation. 160 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying just you. Notice I said you too. 161 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: You both you both owe each other conversation. You both 162 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: owe each other redemption, you know. I don't know if 163 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 1: you know if this relationship is still going on between 164 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: her and the boyfriend, because you said when the wife 165 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: found out, you cut the story off there and you 166 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: wanted to know what you should do about your friendship. 167 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm assuming you don't know because you haven't talked to 168 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: or or whatever. But hopefully that wife found out for 169 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: the fucking better and they're working on their marriage, and 170 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: your best friend is working on her marriage with her husband. 171 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: Was the two divorces going to funk on something? That 172 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: something either way? Because I kind of want to fix 173 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: her mess and not y'alls. God damn, this is crazy. 174 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: But have a conversation with her. Swallow your pride and 175 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: tell her listen. It really hurt me that you thought 176 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: that I would seriously go snitch on you behind your back. 177 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: You cut me off when I was trying to tell 178 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: you that what you're doing is not right, it's not acceptable. 179 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: How would you like if your husband had a non 180 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: affair on you? How would you like to find that out? Like, 181 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: that's not good. I'm married too, And what the funk 182 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: you got going on? I mean, looking at my my 183 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: husband crazy because you never know you're sleeping with a stranger. 184 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: Your husband been sleeping with your sneaky ass for nine 185 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: years and had no ankling, had no idea that you've 186 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: been cheating on him for nine fucking years. It's weird, 187 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 1: it's disgusting, it's a slap in the face. It's an 188 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: insult to the covenant that we had were married bitches, 189 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 1: And I just felt like, if you didn't want your 190 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: husband girl, you could have stayed single, or you could 191 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: have got divorced. I was just being a friend telling 192 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: you I would never go and snitch on you. These 193 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: neat to be your key points when you talk. You 194 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: need to let her know your frustration, but don't come 195 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: at her. Talk to her. Just talk to her. Don't 196 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: come at her now. It may get heated, but she 197 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: probably got so much to tell you. You just never know. 198 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 1: And honestly, she probably needs you more than anything right now, 199 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: but won't say it because y'all both got chips on 200 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: your shoulders. Y'all want to be mad at each other, 201 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: but y'all miss each other. I can tell you've been 202 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: this girl's best friend for fifteen years. I know y'all 203 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: got inside as and all types of ship. Y'all. Y'all 204 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 1: probably want to send each other means and and funny 205 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: ship online all day. Like y'all, bitch, listen, go make 206 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: up with your friends. And whether you guys make up 207 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: or not, you can say you tried. You can say 208 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: I redeemed myself. I just wanted you to know the truth. 209 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: If we walk away from here and we're never friends again, 210 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: I want you to know the truth. I did not 211 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: do what you accused me of. But I just want 212 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: you to get your life together. Boom out, that's it, 213 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: that's done. All right, check back in with me, girl, 214 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: Thank you Jesus. That's that's crazy. That's crazy. Hold up, 215 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: Hold up. I know the ship getting good. But listen 216 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: to just a couple of seconds of a commercial. If 217 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: you love me, you'll listen. Alright. Moving on, Hey, jos, 218 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm here with an update as well as another question. 219 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: So to clear things up, I was with my boyfriend 220 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: for four years and never met his kids or family. 221 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: Oh I remember this story. Yes. I finally put it 222 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: all on the table and told him how I felt. 223 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 1: He claimed he never thought to include his kids in 224 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: his personal life. What he asked for time to work 225 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: on my issues, and I said okay. Fast forward a 226 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: week later. We get into a very small disagreement and 227 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: he ignored me for a week. Well it couldn't have 228 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: been that damn small. He finally texted me out the 229 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: blue a week later and tells me I don't truly 230 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: love him. At this point, I just said fuck it. 231 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,640 Speaker 1: I told him he never truly loved me and the 232 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: relationship he was giving I didn't want. Next thing. I know. 233 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: He's telling me I'll never hear from him again, and 234 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: if I see him out, then act like I don't 235 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: know him. The nerve of this motherfucker shaking my head. 236 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 1: It's been ten days and we haven't spoke since. I 237 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 1: know I'm better off without the relationship, But is it 238 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: crazy that I still want him as a friend. I'm 239 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: alone in this state and could use his wisdom and advice. 240 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: He's forty three and I'm twenty nine. Let me know, 241 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: just boom that your question right there. So listen, his 242 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: little forty three year old ass is playing games with 243 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: your baby ass. Okay, that's what it sounds like to me. 244 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: He's playing games with you. No, listen, not every older 245 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: guy sought out to play games with these younger girls. 246 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: Some some older guys just genuinely are attracted to younger females, 247 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: not little girls, younger females, younger women. Um, and you 248 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: are a young lady, are almost thirty. Not saying that 249 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: you're too fucking young for him, but I think that 250 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: he's playing on your feelings and taking advantage of how 251 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: you feel and taking advantage of the fact also that 252 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: you moved to the state to be with him right, 253 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: And he knows you don't know any want and you 254 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: can't just up and leaving, you know, uproot again and 255 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: go back home, or go back where you want to go, 256 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: or go wherever. He knows that. So he's playing on 257 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: that fact you you don't need him. I think you 258 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: got comfortable with knowing that he's always gonna be there. 259 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: He's always, um gonna take care of you or gonna 260 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: make you feel better. And I think that he also 261 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 1: has spoiled you, and you spoiled him as well. With accessibility. 262 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: He knows he always has access to you. He knows 263 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: he can call you and make you feel a certain 264 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: way and you'll be feeling that way for a week. 265 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: He he knows, he, like you just said, he ignored 266 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: you for a fucking week. How to funn you do 267 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: that to somebody that you love? How the fun you 268 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: do that to somebody that you're in a relationship with. 269 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: How the hell can you do that? Going back to 270 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: the first time that you wrote me, you said that 271 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: you were in a relationship with this man for four 272 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: years and haven't met his kids. He told you kids 273 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: or any other family. I mean you you met in 274 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: passing a brother and a cousin. Who's to say they 275 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: were his real family members? Though you don't know, you 276 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: have to pay attention and the ship like that. His 277 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: kids are his immediate family. Why the funk wouldn't he 278 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 1: think to include them in his personal life when they're 279 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: his people. They're his persons that came out of his 280 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: damn balls. How the hell don't you include your kids, 281 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: whether they're grown or not. I've been your girlfriend for 282 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: four years. How the funk I don't know your children, 283 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: never seen them, never laid eyes on them a day 284 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: of my life. They've never spoken to me or anything. 285 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: Wake your ass up, baby, Wake your ass up. Get 286 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: out there, get to know other people. I'm not saying 287 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: date established friendships. Go to a couple of barns and nobles. 288 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: I'm dead serious. Go take walks around the park. Start 289 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: doing ship for you, because once you start focusing on yourself, 290 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: that's how you make people mad. That's the sweetest revenge 291 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: to work on yourself. Because you're a little damaged to 292 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: be sitting here dealing with this ship. It must be 293 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: something in you. I don't know if it's self esteem, 294 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: or if it's you know you're comfortable, or you you know, 295 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: complacent or you know you're twenty nine and you haven't 296 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: even reached your third decade of life yet. Seriously, I 297 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 1: want you to get yourself to cather, get out there, 298 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: should go back to school, do something with yourself. You 299 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: don't need him as a friend. You don't. He ain't 300 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: gonna be no friend because he already know how to 301 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: unlock certain feelings and play on your heart strings. So 302 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: you don't need a friend like that. No, you don't. 303 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: He need to get itself together, and what you need 304 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: to do is take his advice. Do what he tell 305 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: you to do. Act like you don't know his ass. 306 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: All right, don't ever hit him up again. I mean, 307 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: I know it's easier said than done, but I've been 308 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: in your shoes, and I'm telling you you'll feel better 309 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: knowing what I know. Now. Oh, I would have loved 310 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: for just to fix my fucking mess and tell me. Oh, 311 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: do what he's saying, because once you really do it. 312 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: That's why I told you to do it, because he 313 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: knows you're not ever going to do it. You're not 314 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna do that. You don't want to cut him off. 315 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: You're in love with him, but for real, for real, 316 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: like I said, cut that motherfucker off and start living 317 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 1: for you and watch his as crawled right back up 318 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: in your ass. To believe that. If that's what you 319 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: want to go with it. If not, by boom, check 320 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: back in again. Thank you? All right, we got one 321 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: last one and then we're gonna get out of here, 322 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: says I need some advice on the podcast. Don't say 323 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: my name because he listens to. So. I was with 324 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: a guy for two years. Prior to that, I've been 325 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: in nothing but abusive relationships for over four years. My 326 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: last dude chased me for about two years. Then when 327 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 1: he finally got me, he did me bad, like real bad. 328 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: I found out he was positive. I found out he 329 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: cheated with a plethora of people. He has lied about 330 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: having sex with certain people and lied. He's abusive, narcissist, 331 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: and a manipulator. I'm twenty five, he's forty. I have 332 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: my own and he does too. But he knows I 333 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: have low self esteem as far as my looks and body, 334 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: and he plays on that badly. We've been broken up 335 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: for a year, but won't leave each other alone. What 336 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: should I do? By the way, just three days ago, 337 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: a I I know sent me messages of him fucking 338 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: him after he's saying he still hadn't had sex, so 339 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: he's a liar. Jess, Oh my lord, alrighty, already, already, already, sweetie, Jesus, 340 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: what is up with these forty year old men messing 341 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: with these nine year old motherfucker's these people in the twenties. Okay, So, 342 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: judging from your page, which is private and you have 343 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: a cartoon thumbnail, I don't know if you're a guy 344 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: or a girl. However, I don't want to assume, so 345 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna speak as if I'm talking to a 346 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: woman or man. It doesn't matter. Now you said he 347 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: was positive. You didn't say he was positive? What like 348 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: he what covid? Uh? Gnarhea. It's a plethora of STDs, 349 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: just like those plethora of people that he was fucking 350 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: lying about. He was cheating on you with those people. Hmmm. 351 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,199 Speaker 1: I don't understand why you ask me what you should do, Like, 352 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: just just listen. It's like sometimes people need to hear 353 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: their story back to them. Sometimes you need to repeat 354 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: people so they can hear just how crazy this is. 355 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: You have to take yourself out of your situation and 356 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: look from the outside in and I'm going to help 357 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: you do that. I understand why this is so hard 358 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: for you because you have been and nothing but abusive relationships, 359 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: whether that's emotionally, physically, sexually, whatever. You know, you've been 360 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: in abusive relationships over the past four years, so you've 361 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: kind of gotten used to abuse, which no one should 362 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: ever have to go through. Nobody should ever have to 363 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: feel this way. So you're you're kind of a magnet 364 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: for abuse, And don't take that the wrong way. That's true. 365 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: People attract certain spirits and certain behaviors and and then 366 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: they wonder why, because if I'm right, you're a people 367 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: pleaser and you think you can help everybody, and you 368 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 1: like to give everybody the benefit of the doubt because 369 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: you also have low self esteem and you think you're 370 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: not good enough for the people that you really really 371 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: want to date, that you really really see yourself with, 372 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,439 Speaker 1: or people that you've even tried to get within the 373 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: past and it hasn't worked because you have low self 374 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: esteem being rejected all that ship. So you're taking who 375 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: takes you, You're accepting who accepts you, and ultimately you're settling. 376 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: You're settling, and you are giving benefit of the doubt 377 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: to everyone because people change. Yeah, people change, but people 378 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: can't change people. People change themselves. Now, you can help 379 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: people change, but you're not even in the right state 380 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: of mind or where you need to be for you 381 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 1: to help someone else. You know what I'm saying, because 382 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:44,720 Speaker 1: you're still suffering real with something. You're still you know 383 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: it's something about you reading your story. It's deeper than 384 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: just dating. This is something else as well. You know. 385 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: I need you to figure out what that is. Babe. 386 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can help you with with 387 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: within yourself. I don't know, but I do. I want 388 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: you to know that I think that you should stay 389 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: the funk away from this nigga. I'm telling you that 390 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: because when somebody shows you who they are and you 391 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: keep turning a blind eye to it, you're not being 392 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 1: real with yourself. Now, you're lying to yourself about this 393 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: person they're showing you. Now, they're not telling you who 394 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: they are. They're showing you, which is better because you 395 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: can tell me anything. But when you start showing me 396 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: the type of person you are, that gives me the 397 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: liberty to say, Okay, I don't want to deal with this, 398 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: or I can deal with this, but you are settling 399 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: and you're staying in it because you just want someone 400 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: to love you. You have a true desperation for love. 401 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: You have an unruly desperation for love. And you cannot 402 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: and will not be happy like that. You're not You're 403 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: never gonna find happiness, never gonna be happy for long 404 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: like that. You're gonna end up miserable, and you can 405 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: end up losing your life like that as well. Because 406 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: this abusive ship, this is a cry for help, and 407 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: I need you to go get help. Okay, leave that 408 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: motherfucker alone. Seriously, he's showing you who he is. You 409 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: don't need any more confirmation, you don't need. I don't 410 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 1: care if he begs you, whatever the funk. I don't 411 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: give a fuck. Y'all been broken up for a year, 412 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: but y'all can't leave each other alone. Uh, that's because 413 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: you know you ain't going to where leave you said. 414 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: He plays on the fact that you don't. You're not 415 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 1: confident in your body and your face and how you look. 416 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: Leave because there is someone out there that's gonna love 417 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 1: you for your body, your face, your personality. When you 418 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: wake up in the morning, somebody's gonna want to smell 419 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: that motherfucking morning breath when you go to bed and nice, 420 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna wanna cut it up and hold your ass. 421 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,479 Speaker 1: You understand, So, man or woman, whatever whoever you are, 422 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: I don't care. You need to let that go and 423 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: start healing on yourself. And listen, you will never be healed. 424 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: That's what I want people to understand. There's no way 425 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:54,160 Speaker 1: that you can be healed. Everybody always running around something. 426 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 1: Oh I want to I want to date somebody that's healed. 427 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: I want to make it that's already healed. Already. Listen, 428 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: You're gonna be healing for the rest of your life. 429 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: Everybody who's been through something is going to be healing 430 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: for the rest of their lives. Why, Because the world 431 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 1: doesn't stop is new trauma every day, new situations, new 432 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 1: ship that we can't even control, that are out of 433 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: our hands, that are affecting us, that we didn't even 434 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: think had anything to do with us. Oh, but it does. 435 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: So the things that you think don't affect you will. 436 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 1: It's almost humanly impossible to find someone that's completely fucking healed. Seriously, 437 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: Now you can be with someone that can assist you 438 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: in your healing. Process that can help you heal. That's 439 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: called building together. That's called working, building a strong foundation, 440 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: open honest communication, doing everything the right way, not lying 441 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: about ship I'm talking about. That's how you start a 442 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: true healing process. And who's to ever say that you 443 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: will be healed one cent? But if you do it 444 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,840 Speaker 1: the right way, you'll end up turning out better than 445 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,640 Speaker 1: you would if you keep living life like this, sweetie. 446 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: So I want you to check back in with me, um, 447 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: and I want you to know something. I love you. 448 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't know you, don't know your name, I don't care, 449 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: but I love you just as a person you are. 450 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 1: You're enough. You're enough. Stop thinking that you aren't because 451 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: a person says it. That's just another person with the 452 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: same skin you got. If you cut them, they're gonna 453 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 1: bleed just like you. Just know that. And just like that, 454 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: we've come to the end of another Carefully Reckless session 455 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: with Dr Jess because I'm fixing mess all day and 456 00:23:32,400 --> 00:24:47,119 Speaker 1: then my deepest pam boys peace. 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