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Speaker 2: the guru. Now what you're gonna do when I start

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Speaker 2: I'll be hurting you. But this ain't no threat, So

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Speaker 2: take it personal. I take a personal. Hey, welcome to

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Speaker 2: the Blackout Tips podcast, your host Rod and Karen, and

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Speaker 2: And we can get right into podcasting. Guys, A lot

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Speaker 2: honestly feel like this is an album that a lot

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Speaker 2: sad part. But you know, Beyonce ahead of the curve.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, some people reveling it. Some people not forgiving.

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Speaker 1: It's their brand, like that's their shit. I don't forgive.

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Speaker 2: And then the course is, you did some things to me, boy,

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Speaker 2: The up and downs are worth it. Long way to go,

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Speaker 2: for each other. Sometimes I thought we never see the light,

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Speaker 1: So for me, I'm like, you know what, I'm not

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Speaker 2: I will always feel like forgiving as a selfish act,

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Speaker 2: just as apologizing as a selfish act, because you have

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: You can't like people low the time and say shit

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Speaker 2: of course she's gonna go down with this million dollars

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Speaker 2: you know, man, this sh is not perfect, this shit

432
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 2: is not easy. This shit we had to fight hard

433
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: to get back to a place where where we're stronger

434
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,679
Speaker 2: than we were before. And a lot of times when

435
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: you do, they do studies about infidelity and stuff, a

436
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 2: lot of couples when they do make it always come

437
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 2: out stronger because you have forced honesty. You actually have

438
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: to confront the core issues that you were letting fester,

439
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: that you weren't talking about, that you didn't want to resolve,

440
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 2: that you would never look at because you were shamed.

441
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: You're embarrassed. You thought you could handle it yourself. You know,

442
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 2: on four forty four when Jay talks about failing at

443
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 2: his marriage and stuff because he didn't think he was

444
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 2: worthy of all that of love and shit, And you know,

445
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,439
Speaker 2: I look at his catalog and I say, that's a

446
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: dude that hated himself because he wasn't stupid. Like, if

447
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 2: you're stupid, you can kind of do the I sell

448
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 2: drugs in the community. I don't really care about anyone

449
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 2: with myself. I'm getting bitches, blah blah blah. That's kind

450
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: of a lane you can operate in when you when

451
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: you're kind of dumb. But when you're smart, you know

452
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 2: how much damage you do. And if you have any

453
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 2: level of conscience. It's gonna keep you up at night,

454
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: it's gonna fuck with you. He didn't make all that

455
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: shit up. You know, you talk about how you do

456
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:14,160
Speaker 2: women wrong and shit, nigga, you did that shit because

457
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: you thought it was the That's what people supposed to do,

458
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: that's what men are supposed to do. You didn't get

459
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: to see a lot of healthy relationships growing up and

460
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: things of this nature. So you have people imitating these

461
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 2: these toxic masculine like figures in their lives, and so

462
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: to see somebody work through that as a man is

463
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: very rare in a public swoting is setting very rare.

464
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: But then to see a woman that love somebody like

465
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,879
Speaker 2: that in a time where we are very quick to

466
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 2: say never forgive, move on, fuck them, team women, team men,

467
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 2: let's go on insecures forums and argue with each other.

468
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: You know, like that rifted in our community. It's so real,

469
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: and it's exacerbated by people who are just saying the

470
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 2: dumbest shit on and the meanest things and the most

471
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: they don't even live their lives that way, but they

472
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 2: go online and have these personas that way. People go

473
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: on TV. You have Steve Harvey giving love advice you

474
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: know you have like it's you know you have Tyree's

475
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: given love advice, Like it's so fucked up and we

476
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 2: need something like this. But I really think people are

477
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: gonna miss it. Like even with what I'm saying right now,

478
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: I feel like people are gonna not see the substance

479
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:31,719
Speaker 2: in this. But they have gotten together. They have become

480
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: so much more powerful as a unit than I could

481
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 2: have even imagined, like impact on the game, their charity,

482
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 2: their pro blackness, their outspokenness, you know, their just seeing

483
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: a woman like Beyonce, who's the biggest fucking star on

484
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: the earth, who loves black women so much. You know.

485
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 2: I mean she loves black people, and that's cool, you

486
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. I love that too, but she

487
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 2: has a specific love and representation of black women, you know,

488
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: watching this woman become one of the greatest rappers on

489
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: her last album, Like jay Z tweeted out some shit

490
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 2: last year about his favorite rappers and one of them

491
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: was Beyonce, and people was like, oh this nigga ha.

492
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 1: Ha ha, uh my bad player.

493
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,679
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I'm telling since Flawless,

494
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 2: I've been like this is it me?

495
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: And Beyonce, like, like, what's the next album? Is gonna

496
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: be a rap album? Drop one?

497
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean, what the fuck? The albums just keep getting

498
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: blacker and blacker. I'm telling Trapped Negro Spirituals that's what's next.

499
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 2: It's gonna be trap. Where else can they go after

500
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: this shit? It's so fucking black, you know what I mean.

501
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: It's just I mean why, I know some people will

502
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 2: be offended by the word. Obviously you listen to this,

503
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 2: hopefully you're not, but listening Beyonce say, Nigga's so power.

504
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: She just says she's a like she is this beautiful

505
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: I like the idol of like, you know, like this

506
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: woman is just the most beautiful woman on the earth.

507
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: And you go yeah. And then typically when we think

508
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 2: about that, we think about whiteness or I even think, oh, yes,

509
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 2: well she's good. She's gonna be making these type of songs,

510
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: She's gonna be hanging out in these type of places.

511
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 2: She gonna be hop novel with these type of people. Girl,

512
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: you made it, you elevated, you won, You won the

513
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: game of blackness to the point where you got to

514
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 2: be hanging with white people.

515
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 1: That's the game in America. That's what you want and

516
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: to see her.

517
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 2: Be like, no, no, not only am I rejecting that shit,

518
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 2: fuck you, fuck you, you're a cool fuck you. I'm

519
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: actually gonna take all my black ass sisters up in

520
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: the little and we're gonna do this video. Okay, we're

521
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 2: gonna be getting our hair done in front of like

522
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 2: the Mona Lisa and shit.

523
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: Like fuck it like it was the blue Magic she

524
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: dipped her finger.

525
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: In and it's And it's funny because the blacker she

526
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 2: it's quote unquote, the more specific to her people she gets,

527
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: to her women she gets, the more fucking powerful the

528
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: message becomes, and the more it resonates with everyone. Like

529
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: she's she's undeniable. We have never seen something like this.

530
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 2: She's knocking the streaming game apart. Like the fact that

531
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: she was basically like what she says on the on

532
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: the album, basically like if I put this shit on Spotify,

533
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: Lemonade would have broke all the records. What the fuck

534
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: y'all talking about? You know what I mean? Like that

535
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: type of Uh, it's just so empowering, empowering, It's so

536
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: beautiful to see and I hope people appreciate it because,

537
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: like I said, the messaging is something we need. I

538
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 2: don't know if men and women are paying attention, you know,

539
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 2: I think we're in our bag. And with a lot

540
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: of stuff, like especially involved in jay Z, Beyonce, certain people,

541
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 2: you know, the hype machine and the and the popuarizing

542
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: and the the public discourses almost bigger than life. So

543
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: you can't really get to the music. But I really

544
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: hope people at some point take time to like enjoy

545
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: this music. I heard people say stuff like, there's no

546
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: message to the album. You know this, the album's not

547
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: about nothing. I'm like, I can't believe that went over

548
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 2: your head. Three albums in the making to get to

549
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: get to this album, the album where we go holy shit.

550
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, because for a lot of people, not to be funny,

551
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:26,479
Speaker 1: they don't want to hear shit about love. So if

552
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: you're talking about love, you ain't talking about like I'm

553
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: just keeping. For some people, they're like, this album ain't

554
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: for me.

555
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 2: That's just talking about love.

556
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: I mean don't know. For some people, they're not in love,

557
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: they're bitter, they're hurt. So to them, if you're not

558
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: talking directly to them, they ain't got you know, they

559
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: don't have a significant other. So in their mind they're like,

560
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: you ain't talking about nothing because you ain't giving me

561
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: the box that I want it. So fuck this whole album.

562
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: I do think we're at a point where people can't

563
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 2: hear forgiveness correct, cause it's been used as a weapon

564
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: so much against people. You gotta forgive, forgive, for give.

565
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 2: It's taking away people's power or perception of power. And

566
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: maybe that's why they hear this album and they just

567
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 2: like I hear nothing, you know what I mean? Right?

568
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: And the thing about forgiveness, it does not happen instantly.

569
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: It does not happen overnight, and it takes time.

570
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's And so let me talk about Beyonce for

571
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: a second too, though, Okay, how fucking good is she?

572
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: Like she's so good When I first heard this album,

573
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: at no point did I question her transition into just

574
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: fucking rapper, like just I mean, you know how we

575
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 2: give extra credit on some Scottie pipp and shit to

576
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 2: like Drake Donald Glover, Chris Brown. They get all this

577
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: extra credit like oh they can rap and they can sing,

578
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: and it doesn't matter that they can't do either one

579
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: as the best on the planet or in the top whatever.

580
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: Like it's okay that Chris Brown is an okay singer

581
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: and an okay rapper. It's okay that Donald Glover is

582
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: an okay singer to a lot of people and a

583
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 2: okay rapper to a lot of people. Like, you know,

584
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 2: we wouldn't put him up there with quote unquote Kendrick

585
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 2: or whatever, like it's for some people. You know, I

586
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: stand for child Cambino, But y'all know what I'm saying.

587
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 2: In general, a lot of people would tell you, like, oh,

588
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: I like him, but he's not blank. Beyonce is what

589
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: those niggas are supposed to be. But she doing it

590
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 2: like if she dropped a fucking rap album right now,

591
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: Who the fuck is gonna stand in her way?

592
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: Y'all think I'm bush and I'm looking for that Beyonce

593
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: rock album. I'm looking for that Beyonce country album. Y'all

594
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: fuck around. She'll get some black you fuck around to

595
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: get some black opera singers up in that bitch.

596
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 2: And the thing for me is, I'm sure some people

597
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: you know help on the verse. She's very collaborative and

598
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: stuff correct, but it doesn't really sound like anybody else

599
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 2: to me, especially when you mix into singing like cause

600
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: a lot of these niggas be singing with the auto tune,

601
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: and shit, she's actually singing like it's actually like never

602
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: had a ceiling in my own life. This word the

603
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: blue like she's really singing it, and then she'll turn

604
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 2: it into a rap and then she'll come back to

605
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,879
Speaker 2: sing it. Then she'll sing the fucking chorus and then

606
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: she'll fucking be the hype man behind jay What the fuck?

607
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like it's some Lebron James

608
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: type shit. What jay Z officially gets to be like

609
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Love or Kyrie Irvin or fucking Chris bod Like

610
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 2: where we like, where he she doing so good that

611
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: we can't deny him either, you know what I mean?

612
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: Where we gotta be like, oh yeah, Dwayne Wade's having

613
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: he got twenty five points tonight, good for him. But

614
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: really underpending all of this is Beyonce doing all the

615
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: fucking work.

616
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: God damn she good, Like she keeps this nigga young.

617
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 2: She sounds so Houston, so nigga, so black, and she's

618
00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 2: so talented, and it's honestly, it's honestly full of her

619
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 2: to not even try to just take over the rap game.

620
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: It's very nice. I heard Nigga had to put your

621
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: album back, and I don't blame her, but it's very

622
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: nice of Beyonce to give people some time off to do.

623
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 1: You think Beyonce is like Marvel, because you know when

624
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: Marvel put out certain movies, everybody like pushed their schedules around,

625
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: you know, because everybody was like, yeah, I'm coming out

626
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: and black packs ca no no, no, no no, not

627
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: doing Black History Month events and can't do that time,

628
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, like if you But the thing is, she's

629
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 1: so surprising you have your shit on the schedule and

630
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: won't even notice it.

631
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: You're like, well damn if you're the game me in

632
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: one app Well that's what happened with Nikki. I mean,

633
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 2: we all saw the laptop. We knew the album was coming.

634
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 2: Nigga ain't put out the date, but but that is

635
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 2: the word on the street is this album came out.

636
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: Nigga said, Okay, well I'll just drop it after the

637
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: summer because the rap, you know what I mean, it's

638
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: like to save that. She and you know she was

639
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 2: about to drop the album because Nigga was doing all

640
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 2: the press interviews, so the album was coming soon and

641
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 2: now it's kind of a playing be motherfucker dro drop

642
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,959
Speaker 2: the shit on a Friday and tank if you want,

643
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,879
Speaker 2: you might want to wait. People need to go through

644
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: these nine tracks a few more times, not to mention

645
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: the single they put out not to Mension.

646
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: People got the tickets and they already got to memorized.

647
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, I don't know what's left after this

648
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: for these motherfuckers, But I just think she's extremely magnanimous

649
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: and gracious to even allow other people to have a

650
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 2: challenge talent, because I don't know what else she can do.

651
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 2: I just feel like she could just be like, all right,

652
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 2: well it's time to put out a gospel album and

653
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: take that shit too. Like I like, it's on Game

654
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 2: of Thrones type shit right now, where we all are

655
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: just sitting watching her do whatever the fuck she wants

656
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 2: and hoping that she just don't come for whatever it

657
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 2: is you do. Like I think she could drop a

658
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,240
Speaker 2: podcast right now. I'll never be as good at anything

659
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: as he is at doing Beyonce. Ever, none of us

660
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:01,839
Speaker 2: will be.

661
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: She dropped a podcast, Nigga, that shit would be number

662
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 1: one FORELB.

663
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 2: She could drop podcasts tomorrow. We have to be like well,

664
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 2: podcasting was cool, like you go find a job. It

665
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: was fun.

666
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: Why the last did y'all?

667
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: I remember when people used to listen to other people

668
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: that did podcasts and shit, and then Beyonce came and

669
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: nobody cares any more what y'all got to say? They

670
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: just wait on her to drop every You know, she

671
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: probably dropped her shit like every month and say it'd

672
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 2: be five minutes long. It won't matter, it'll get a

673
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: billion down.

674
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: You know.

675
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: She could just have like five minutes of Blue talking

676
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: and be like, all right, Blue, we gotta go. And

677
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 2: then they'd be like, oh, have you heard the Beyonce podcast?

678
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: Everybody heard it would listen to that shit like it's

679
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: just it's amazing, and then she would charge you for

680
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: premium and I would be the first bitch signing up.

681
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I man, I like when I finally got to

682
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 2: like listen to it and just let it click. Today,

683
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: she's a fucking kind man. We don't appreciate her enough,

684
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 2: which is a perfect way to transition into something else.

685
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,839
Speaker 2: And I'm glad I got to say this and talk

686
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: about her as a genius without having to bring up

687
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: bring it up in retaliation of something I love that

688
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: people are starting you know, it started in a bad place,

689
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,720
Speaker 2: but people are starting to call a genius now because

690
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: it's kind of retaliation because they wanted to strip it

691
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: away from Donald Glover. So they want to make it

692
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: sound like, oh, there can only be one and if

693
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: you call him a genius, you better call it Beyonce

694
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: a genius, which I'm like, why not both, But they

695
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: try to make it, you know, basically make you everyone

696
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: make a false equivalency of if you didn't say this,

697
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 2: then you can't say that. The truth of the matter

698
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: is they're both geniuses in their own respects. And it

699
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: was especially weird during that time on the Internet to

700
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: watch people that I've seen admonished Beyonce's work, I've seen

701
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: try to tear down Beyonce, try to tear down her fans,

702
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 2: talk about how overhyped she is, talk about like these

703
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: contrarian ass niggas that because they're so fucking smart, they

704
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 2: gotta always tell us why the things black people like

705
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: aren't great or aren't perfect or aren't good enough. And it's,

706
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: you know, it's always you know, oh black people stand

707
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: for get out. Let them tell you. The flawers will

708
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: get out okay, but then you can't turn around and say,

709
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 2: but I don't understand why white people won't recognize us

710
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 2: as genius. Is nigga, you do it? You know what

711
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: I mean? Like you tell us everything that's wrong, like

712
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: the cudgel for our shit is out every time, you know,

713
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: And it's only in retaliation that we even acknowledge black genius.

714
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 2: And that is fucked up. You know. It's oh, they

715
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: want to it's after they go. Li La Land might

716
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 2: win to Oscar we go, but you get out as

717
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: black genius. Was it black genius when you watched it

718
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 2: in February or was it not? Because it can't just

719
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 2: be genius conveniently for fucking two months out the year.

720
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: Then the war season's over and it's back then it

721
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: wasn't that good. It was y'all overhyped it. Y'all niggas

722
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: always blah blah blah. You know, And the same thing

723
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 2: with you know, like Beyonce. Beyonce doesn't fuck up or

724
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: do anything really problematic or say anything crazy or abuse

725
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 2: people and shit, so we don't get to call her

726
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: genius because we're genius is mostly reserved for men or

727
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: abusive people, racist and it's always as a way to

728
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 2: justify consuming their art or to mitigate the harm they've done. Right,

729
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: It's very selfish level of genius. Right. So that brings

730
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: me to yesterday's news where xxx Temptation was killed. It's

731
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: they say it look like a tempted robbery and he

732
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 2: got shot. He's twenty years old. It was twenty years old.

733
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: I guess was not a fan of dudes music, So

734
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: take that for what it's worth. I think that matters

735
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 2: in this equation.

736
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: I was not.

737
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: I had heard about the abuse. We've read about it

738
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:19,240
Speaker 2: on the show before. I don't follow his online social

739
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 2: media presence like that. I've seen a few videos in

740
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: the past few days, in the past day or so

741
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 2: of people like he said this, so he did that,

742
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: And I've seen people talk about how unrepentant he was.

743
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: And apparently at one time he beat up a black

744
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: person because he thought they were gay. He's abused multiple women,

745
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 2: he's in accused of rape, and he died, and a

746
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 2: lot of mostly since had black men have been doing

747
00:41:53,600 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 2: the Wow, this guy was only twenty. You guys shouldn't

748
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: be talking bad about him that he's dead. Because some

749
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 2: people were celebrating his death. Some people were basically like,

750
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: that's karma. Oh well, welp, you know that kind of response. People,

751
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna, you know, even if they're not celebrating,

752
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna pretend that I'm sad about it. You know,

753
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: there were people doing that, and I don't really have

754
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: a problem with them saying those.

755
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 1: Things same because you have a right to feel how

756
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: you feel.

757
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 2: More importantly, I'm gonna try to make this point. I'll

758
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: try to do it eloquently, but I'm not surprised that

759
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 2: people defending them either, because a lot of people are

760
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 2: too busy worrying about their team of people that are

761
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 2: like them, whether that be straight black men, whether it

762
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: be straight black women, whether it be LGBTQ, whether it

763
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 2: be I'm Asian, whether it be a lot of people

764
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 2: kind of just care that the person in their group

765
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: is saying or doing some things, and then it becomes

766
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 2: a backwards equation of how do I defend this thing,

767
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: as opposed to is this good or bad? I don't

768
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 2: think people are really black or white. You know, you

769
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: listen to the show long enough you know that, and

770
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 2: I don't know this, dude, but from all accounts, it

771
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: seems that people are trying to I think people of

772
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 2: our age are analyzing it from our age group, correct,

773
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 2: which is fine. I think people that have platforms and

774
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 2: stuff should be using it to analyze it from our

775
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: age group. Just hip hop is growing and so are we.

776
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: This guy's not the only nigga hip hop and the

777
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: same way that the forty year old person might review

778
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: a Kanye West album because they've been in the game

779
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 2: for forty years. We need to get used to that.

780
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: We need to get used to the fact that hip

781
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 2: hop grew up with people, and people grew up with

782
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: hip hop and they're not gonna die out of the game.

783
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: Now.

784
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: They might not be the taste maker, but the same

785
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 2: reason motherfucker's listening to Joe Budden's podcast to hear about

786
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: music who and he's probably, you know, a forty year

787
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: old dude. At this point, you can't then turn around

788
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 2: and say, well, forty year old people have to like

789
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 2: whoever the young people like. That's ridiculous. That being said,

790
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,240
Speaker 2: the young people are gonna like what they like, whether

791
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: old people agree or not agreed, because we did, yes,

792
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: we did. It's interesting because like he was twenty, I

793
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,959
Speaker 2: can kind of understand some seventeen year old kid looking

794
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 2: up to this dude to not knowing better because they

795
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 2: haven't gotten to that part of their life where they

796
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: grow in they realize, oh, that's not good. This is

797
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: something you know, you can't just gloss over and let go.

798
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: There's like young people, I kind of I don't want

799
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: to say give them a past, but I understand. And

800
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 2: the reason I understand is because I lived in an

801
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 2: age where we did it, yes, and we had to

802
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: learn and unlearn a lot of shit. And people want

803
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 2: to treat the kids that today because we get to

804
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,800
Speaker 2: see them grow on social media and shit like they different,

805
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: but they're not different. There's a lot of things that

806
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: we thought were rebellious that weren't. There's a lot of

807
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:39,479
Speaker 2: people we have eulogized, mourned, and mythologized and then put

808
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 2: on murals to this day, titans of hip hop. They

809
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,240
Speaker 2: they weren't good people, and yet you don't really feel

810
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: a sense of guilt when their music plays. Really, you

811
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: don't shut down the party, you don't tell, you don't

812
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 2: say take this off of a streaming services. You know,

813
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: you don't run it like see see the Lord's Tucker

814
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: was out here to storing records when we were kids,

815
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: and for the most part, young people laughed at her, like,

816
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: all this old uptight bitch, she don't want us to

817
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 2: listen to death Road. Fuck this bitch. You know, I

818
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: remember that, You know, I remember that age. You know

819
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: what I mean? I remember uh being the weirdo because

820
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 2: I was uncomfortable. You know, this shit that I'm talking

821
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 2: about now is not the stuff we talked about on

822
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 2: this podcast. It's not new to me. I've been talking

823
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 2: this way my whole fucking life, you know. So while

824
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 2: I'm not above enjoying my my ignorant shit, I love

825
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: I love nigga shit. I love it. I don't let

826
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 2: it run or dictate my life, but oh I consume it.

827
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: I cansume it like a motherfucker. But at the same time,

828
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: that was the understanding I grew up with was, yeah,

829
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: you consume n Wa. You don't live like Nwa, and

830
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 2: if you ever had to talk about Nwa, you gonna

831
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 2: be like them. Niggas was creay, you know what I mean,

832
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: Like the police was dope. But I don't know about

833
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 2: all these songs about raping and calling women bitches and

834
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 2: holes and shit. I can't get away with that. I

835
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: can't be doing that. I'm not living my life running

836
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: around calling my sisters bitches and holes and shit at

837
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: my in my neighborhood and expecting them to just be

838
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: cool with that. You know, maybe if I was easy,

839
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 2: maybe I just didn't have a long enough jerichall. I

840
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: don't know. But the kids today are doing the same thing.

841
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 2: They we just have a different if Tupac died today

842
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 2: and he was some twenty year old dude. The way

843
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: that I know people, I watch people cry mm hmm.

844
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: I watched people cry when he died, you know. I

845
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: watched people talk about how much he meant to them.

846
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: I watched people say he was a legend. To this day,

847
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 2: a lot of people still swear he was one of

848
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 2: the most talented, gifted pete artists, and he was gonna

849
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 2: grow and he was gonna change. People are making movies

850
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: about him now. Uh, he facilitated a rape. He went

851
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 2: to jail for that shit. You can say he paid

852
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 2: his dues or what did his time, but that ain't

853
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: really exactly how this works in twenty eighteen anymore. You

854
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 2: go to jail for some shit, that don't mean people

855
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: got to forgive you or let it go. People go,

856
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,840
Speaker 2: he's canceled quote unquote. Now I'm not saying they have

857
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 2: any true effect because a lot of these cancelations is,

858
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: you know, not really effect.

859
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 1: You can't cancel yourself if you tried, right.

860
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 2: So, but the point being a lot of people that

861
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: are out here saying those kinds of things were out

862
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,879
Speaker 2: there saying it now. Back then they weren't saying it

863
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: because they were young, not saying they didn't know any better.

864
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: But they know a lot better now. And so for kids,

865
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: I feel differently than I feel for adults. Like for

866
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: the kids, I'm like, this is your turn to learn.

867
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: I hope they do read what these adults are writing,

868
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 2: because adults have something to add the conversation. I wish

869
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 2: I read more of adults when I was going through

870
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 2: this kind of stuff when I was a kid, to

871
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: know what adults thought about Tupac and big and stuff.

872
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 2: You know that that influence. We don't have the same

873
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: influence of like a minister fair cond is problematicazine could be,

874
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: but a dude that would come in and be like,

875
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: I'll squash a beef between two parties so no one

876
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 2: gets killed. You know, we don't have that anymore. And

877
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,600
Speaker 2: with YouTube and Twitter and Facebook and shit, these kids

878
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: may they hop on this internet and they can be

879
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: saying the most savage, ruthless shit from one thousand miles away.

880
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: But they got concert dates, they got tour dates, they

881
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 2: got interview dates, they got baby mamas, they got family.

882
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 2: They gonna be somewhere and they can get caught, they

883
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 2: can get got, So it's not They may feel more

884
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: safe in the age of trolling in the Internet, but

885
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: these thiggas ain't safe. You know, It's easy to kill

886
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 2: somebody if you want to, you just gotta want to,

887
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 2: and I think people kind of forgot that lesson, you know. Anyway,

888
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: my point being, this dude's dead and then, uh, much

889
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 2: the same way that I said about Erica Gardner on

890
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 2: the show, and I'm staying consistent. I'm not gonna be hypocritical.

891
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are being hypocritical because

892
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 2: they felt totally different when it was Erica Gardner and

893
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 2: they went to y'all gonna bring up she made mistakes,

894
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,839
Speaker 2: she died young, she could have grown. Y'all don't know

895
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: how she really felt. But now that this this dude there,

896
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 2: uh no, no, forgiveness for him. It's different here on

897
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 2: the wrong team, and I'm like, it's kind of the same, though.

898
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: You don't get to tell people they have to forgive

899
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: somebody because they dead. You don't get to tell somebody

900
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 2: that their age is a mitigame factor in the kind

901
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 2: of person they were because to be hones, if you

902
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 2: victimize me at twenty, I what about me? You know

903
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: what I mean? Like, you don't get to just say

904
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 2: for me what's important? It wasn't It's more important that

905
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: we recognize this man's music than what he did to you.

906
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 2: No one gets to say that, you know. No one

907
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: gets to say to the other people that are affected

908
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: by his abuse how they gotta feel about it. You

909
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: know what kind of fucking tyrant do you have to

910
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 2: be the thing you can dictate that shit to somebody else?

911
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 2: You can't, you know. And the only thing you can

912
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 2: do is if you're personally not bothered by is either

913
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up or move the fuck on. But

914
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 2: getting out here and putting your rep on the line

915
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: arguing with people over this shit, the blowing, just burning

916
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: your brand to the down ground, like I've seen people do. MICHAELA.

917
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,760
Speaker 2: Cole was one of them, and people love her, mostly

918
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: black people. I don't know what she's doing, you know,

919
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: but people are out here just jumping in front of

920
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: a bullet for this shit. You know. Rappers, other rappers

921
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 2: are coming out like you know, with all this empathy

922
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: and sympathy for him, mostly black men that they didn't

923
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: have for the people he abused when they had all this.

924
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: He was going to get better, he was gonna he

925
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 2: was gonna grow. I didn't see you taking him under

926
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: your arm trying to help him grow. I saw you

927
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 2: consuming his music from a distance, giving him props, and

928
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 2: that's about it, defending his bullshittery by saying other people

929
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 2: have done bullshit. That's what I saw. I ain't see

930
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 2: a lot of like this dude's alive and I care

931
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: about him, and he's my brother. He's out here doing

932
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 2: fucked up shit. I'm gonna reach out to this dude

933
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 2: and take him under my wing and show him that

934
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 2: it's a better way. I'm I'm gonna see if we

935
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 2: can get this guy some help. I did see that.

936
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: I mean, if people were doing it, they damn show

937
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: wasn't as vocal about that as they was vocal about

938
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 2: making sure he got exonerated on his uh, you know,

939
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 2: on this on his way out. And that's a real impact.

940
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: And people see that. Survivors of abuse see that in

941
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:11,360
Speaker 2: your family and your friends. They see how you, how you,

942
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 2: where you extend your empathy and where it comes up

943
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 2: a little bit short. What you talk, what you speak

944
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 2: out about, who you decide is sanctify and who's not,

945
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: who's off limits and who isn't. That's some real shit.

946
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 2: So it's been interesting to see people basically turn into

947
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: I can't think of a better word than apologist for

948
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: a guy who seems, by all accounts that have done

949
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,600
Speaker 2: some pretty horrible things to people. And we don't carry

950
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: this empathy when the shoes on the other foot, right, Like,

951
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: we don't allow people that, like if a racist person

952
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:03,160
Speaker 2: kill somebody or abuses somebody and we find out about it,

953
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 2: we don't allow all this fucking growth. I ain't really

954
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 2: seen a lot of black people make the case for well,

955
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 2: this person's growing, Dylan Ruth's growing every day, or George

956
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 2: Zimmon's growing every day, or even these like racist people

957
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 2: that just say stuff like nigger, nigger, nigger on their

958
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 2: fucking snapchat. I don't see a lot of people making

959
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: the case for when they're young and we need to

960
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 2: allow them to you know, to grow and one day,

961
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: you know, they'll be a better person. They're just twenty.

962
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,279
Speaker 2: I don't see a lot of that. You know. We

963
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: have to examine where the fuck we put that empathy, man,

964
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 2: where we make that case, because that case says a

965
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: lot about you. Not much. Rather people be honest and say,

966
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 2: I like his music more than I like the idea

967
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: of you know, him not abusing women or whatever. I

968
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 2: just like his music and I don't care because I

969
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 2: can actually identify with that, because most of us can

970
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 2: identify with that because we all have a thing. Yes,

971
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 2: everybody has something that they're like, Oh, I fucking love

972
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 2: these movies, but god damn they bad. I wish this

973
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 2: nigga wasn't in it, you know, like that kind of thing, right,

974
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 2: But that's not what it is. And a lot of

975
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 2: people think that people are defending him because of his

976
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: music and his impact. That's not what they're doing. The

977
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 2: men that you see defending this dude are defending their

978
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: own misogyny, you know, That's what they're defending. They are

979
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 2: brothers in arms, they are united with this dude. They're

980
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: defending themselves because they see themselves in this dude, whether

981
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 2: at twenty, whether at fifty, orther at thirty, they see

982
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:54,200
Speaker 2: themselves in this dude, his attitude towards women, his whether

983
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,280
Speaker 2: it's his music, the idea that him being depressed somehow

984
00:55:57,320 --> 00:56:00,560
Speaker 2: mitigates what the fuck he does other people. They see

985
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 2: themselves in that, and that's kind of the okie doc

986
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 2: to all of it. We've always seen ourselves in all

987
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,640
Speaker 2: these problematic as men, right, All these men that you

988
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 2: we put on the pedestal in the game, they are

989
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 2: on the pedestals because we do identify with them on

990
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 2: some level. We want to have as a rich life

991
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 2: surrounded by money and women and fancy cars and Miami

992
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 2: beaches like Rick Ross. You know where Rick Ross expresses

993
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 2: the idea of if a woman is getting any money

994
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 2: from him, even for work related things, he wants to

995
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 2: fuck her. A lot of men don't have a problem

996
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 2: with that, and if they were Rick Ross's shoes, that's

997
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 2: exactly how they will operate. The only reason they seem

998
00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 2: above it is because they're not in that position, right,

999
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: and they have no impetus to cleanse themselves of these

1000
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 2: notions because they'll never be called to the carpet on it.

1001
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: And that's why they extend undying empathy for these for

1002
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: these dudes. The same men that like hold Black China's

1003
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:14,239
Speaker 2: mothering against her, that still hate Amber Rolls for the SlutWalk.

1004
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: There's no evolution that they will allow for a woman.

1005
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: You know, the men that say, if a woman has

1006
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 2: a sex tape leak, she's garbageing trash for the rest

1007
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,720
Speaker 2: of her life and nobody can marry her because you're

1008
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: gonna have to deal with that forever. And that's just

1009
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: how it is. It's just real nigga shit. And yet

1010
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 2: they would attempt to wash the stains of abuse off

1011
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 2: of a twenty year old dude that is, you know,

1012
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,080
Speaker 2: to a certain extent, not really repentant.

1013
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: You know.

1014
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: That's what I've been watching happen for the last twenty

1015
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: four hours, and uh, it just all makes me sad same,

1016
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: you know, it makes me think about why the fuck

1017
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 2: we need? Love is everything? Because it's this. And I

1018
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 2: did a expert today. I went on Twitter and I

1019
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: searched his name and genius tweet at the tweet, y'all,

1020
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: he was a genius. I'm not saying I'm not here

1021
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 2: really to say he's not I don't consume his music.

1022
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what I want to say is this.

1023
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: I told y'all a couple of months ago when we

1024
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: did This is America. We were talking about it. Genius

1025
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 2: is mostly seen as a male and a white thing,

1026
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 2: not because those are the only people who are genius,

1027
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: but because most of us who consume aren't use the

1028
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: word genius as a shortcut to either cut off criticism

1029
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:48,520
Speaker 2: or to mitigate harm done by fucked up people. So

1030
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:54,440
Speaker 2: we call people genius because it's easier than saying they

1031
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: were wrong. And I'm not they were wrong, but I

1032
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: still want to fuck with their music or their art.

1033
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:03,920
Speaker 2: So what we still in status make it sound like

1034
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: we're missing out on something. You know, I've listened to

1035
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 2: people that, like I said that just a month ago,

1036
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 2: we're talking about why don't we call y'all said genius enough?

1037
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 2: But when you know, ten years ago, when they talked

1038
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: about R. Kelly, they would say I can't stop listening

1039
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,959
Speaker 2: to him because he's a musical genius, or I still

1040
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: listen to his old stuff. I mean, he's a genius.

1041
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: You know. Kanye West, hey Man he's done, he said

1042
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 2: and done some really outlandish, fucked up things. Man, But

1043
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 2: you gotta mean he's a genius. Yeah, he called himself

1044
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: a genius. But we didn't have to take up that torch.

1045
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,479
Speaker 2: A lot of people took up that torch, not because

1046
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 2: they really think he's a genius, but because if I

1047
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 2: say he's a genius, how can you ask me not

1048
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 2: to listen to his shit? I'm STOs to miss out

1049
00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 2: on genius because what he said some problematic things about race.

1050
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 2: Why you know, Chris Brown, you know I've seen people

1051
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: say he's a genius, right, But is he a genius

1052
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 2: or did you not want to say I'm gonna listen

1053
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: to his music even though he definitely beat Rihanna and

1054
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 2: he's had multiple restrained orders with other women. He's always

1055
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 2: in some shit. He's been in court, in and out

1056
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: of court many times. I don't want to give this

1057
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 2: nigga up, Okay, So I'm gonna bring up his age.

1058
01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say he's a genius because the truth of

1059
01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: the matter is if I if I that'll stop the

1060
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: discussion quicker than if I say maybe I'm fucked up

1061
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: in part of the problem. I don't know, but we

1062
01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: could accept the commonality that we're all part of the problem,

1063
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 2: we would be much better off have much healthier conversation.

1064
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 2: But we're not gonna have them because we gotta be

1065
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 2: able to call something a genius. I looked up at

1066
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:47,919
Speaker 2: the same time today experiment also looked at Roseanne Barring genius. Yeah,

1067
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 2: as you think, many results many comedic genius. She's a genius.

1068
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 2: She's so smart, she's her show. She's a genius, show

1069
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 2: creative genius, the visionary genius. So this comedy. Yeah, and

1070
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 2: all those people are mostly defending her from being racist.

1071
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,240
Speaker 2: I'm onto something with this genius shit, y'all. So we say,

1072
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 2: why are men call genius because men of the ones

1073
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: who are more fucked up? Why is genius seem to

1074
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 2: operate in the realm of whiteness for the most part,

1075
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 2: because white people are fucked up, so they get to

1076
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: be geniuses. Because it's the only way to say, I

1077
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: still absorb the fucked up shit that this person does.

1078
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 2: It's that's some real shit. I didn't mean to stumble

1079
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 2: on it, but I fucking stumbled on that shit this year,

1080
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: and I ain't letting it go. Yo, do the experiment yourself,

1081
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 2: you know, And like I said, I saw Beyonce getting

1082
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 2: called genius today too. But I feel like after the

1083
01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 2: Donald Glover thing, a lot of people have kind of

1084
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: gone out their way to make sure that she is

1085
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 2: called a genius, even if it was in a weird

1086
01:01:50,760 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: way to spite Donald Glover. I don't give a fuck

1087
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,880
Speaker 2: how you got here. Welcome to the party. Thank you.

1088
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: Keep that keep that energy up, keep that same energy.

1089
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,439
Speaker 2: Don't drop it, don't drop it. Stop waiting for people

1090
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 2: to do fucked up shit before you can say they

1091
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: are genius. There's a lot of people that aren't fucking

1092
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 2: abusing people and shit, they are just as fucking smart

1093
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: Jesus genius, just as central to your fucking entertainment. But

1094
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: you don't even think of the word genius because they

1095
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 2: don't fuck up like that. You know, Like, let's let's

1096
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 2: give credit where it's due. We don't have to overhype

1097
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:29,920
Speaker 2: somebody's artistic merit to mitigate how fucked up they are,

1098
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: because that's really what a lot of this shit is. Yeah,

1099
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 2: so this has been my ted talk. Thank you, I'll

1100
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 2: talk forever. I'm sorry, Karen, that was just on my

1101
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:45,800
Speaker 2: mind a lot today just watching people react like Jadino

1102
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: was on Twitter.

1103
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: Uh.

1104
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 2: For those who are so wold that their compassion is asleep,

1105
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 2: remember this. If Malcolm X is killed at the age

1106
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 2: of twenty, he would have died an abuse of a thief,

1107
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 2: an addict, and a narrow amount of depressing violent criminal.

1108
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: So I believe in change for the young. My point

1109
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: here is not to equate Malcolm X Malcolm with XXX,

1110
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 2: but to point out that a young lost kid can

1111
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 2: evolve into something greater. I do believe karma was at work, however,

1112
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 2: so I pray that men, he just warned that we

1113
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 2: were vere women, more than any generation before us. I

1114
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,600
Speaker 2: don't know why the fuck people jumping on that grenade,

1115
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 2: Why even jump on that grenade? You're doing just fine.

1116
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 2: And that's when I say, I have to believe that

1117
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: it's the commonality of men to be trashed, that we

1118
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 2: would even see this dude and go I have to

1119
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: say something to defend him. Mm hmm.

1120
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can let a sink just ship the sink

1121
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,479
Speaker 1: on his own, I mean a ship sink on his own.

1122
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. I wonder where this energy was for Erica Garner,

1123
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 2: for the for the dudes who are just now only

1124
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 2: popping in to say a young.

1125
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 1: Person like, consistency is key for me. Hypocrisy just fucking

1126
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: everybody has it.

1127
01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:02,919
Speaker 2: I have it, we all have it, but god damn

1128
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 2: that shit just some days you just see it's like

1129
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 2: this fucking slaps you in the face and you're like,

1130
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: y'all don't care about nobody else when people call us

1131
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 2: the fucking white man of the you know, the white

1132
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 2: people or black people, like this is it? You know,

1133
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 2: this is the shit. This is how fucking white people

1134
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,800
Speaker 2: feel bad for cops that kill black people. And you're like,

1135
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 2: this is this big ass fucking thing you're missing that

1136
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 2: actually is the problem. But you're more worried about this

1137
01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: nigga's feelings and he's dead. The survivors of his abuse

1138
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 2: are still fucking here. What are they supposed to think

1139
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 2: about our attachment, our love, our exaltation of this man,

1140
01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 2: because God, like, what are they supposed to What's the

1141
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 2: message I'm sending when I'm telling you how much I

1142
01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: have to love this man and I can never judge him.

1143
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 2: And this is an age where you cannot say anything.

1144
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: Do I think it's sad? A twenty year old person

1145
01:04:59,080 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: died to be honest, I do think it's sad that

1146
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: somebody that young died. I feel sorry. I'm sad that

1147
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 2: it's fans that are young specifically are going through this

1148
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: because we went through this when we when it was Tupac,

1149
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: when it was Big, when it was Big l Like,

1150
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,480
Speaker 2: we went through this, and we didn't have a critical

1151
01:05:18,600 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: lens of examination in life to truly go back and

1152
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 2: have respective and be like, Yo, was I really fucking

1153
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: with a dude that I knew held a woman down

1154
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: so she could be raped? Is that a thing that

1155
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 2: I fucking thought was cool? You know what I mean?

1156
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 2: Like like Outcast, they had a line on that album

1157
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 2: where it was like fucking a nigga like Tupac up

1158
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:44,480
Speaker 2: and and I listened to that and thought, yeah, women

1159
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: out here fucking Tupac Up, you know what I mean?

1160
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: Like I but I have I'm older now, I have

1161
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 2: the merit of I'm able to have a luxury of

1162
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 2: self examination now. I didn't have that as much at

1163
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 2: a at that age. I didn't have that the analytical

1164
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 2: capital at that time that I have now. So I

1165
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 2: think that that shit matters, and I would allow for

1166
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 2: these young people to do that because I don't see

1167
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 2: any point in the like, I think adults should definitely

1168
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 2: put out on their platforms and stuff, but you're not

1169
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,640
Speaker 2: going to get it by going to chastise and you

1170
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 2: anything gonna run them further away, because that's exactly what

1171
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: happened to our generation. Like part of the reason that

1172
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:32,120
Speaker 2: Luke and some of these more quote unquote cringeworthy acts

1173
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: came up under us is because adults chastised us turn

1174
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: off that hip of it hop da da da da,

1175
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 2: and you go, well, now I want to hear the

1176
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 2: most fucking outlandish shit, the most violent, vile shit, like

1177
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 2: fuck that I'm doing. We talking drugs, we talking pimping,

1178
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 2: we talking fucking beating people, like killing people. We want

1179
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 2: the worst because y'all won't even let us have the

1180
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: old like just to the hip hop a hippi dibbit debit,

1181
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:01,600
Speaker 2: like you said that shit was bad, Well I got

1182
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 2: some bad shit for you, right, Like That's what happened,

1183
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: And I wonder if we're doomed to repeat that cycle.

1184
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: This is something generationally we'll do to the young people today.

1185
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: And that's why they're gonna find these like xx Temptation

1186
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 2: dudes and these six nine dudes and that's why they

1187
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 2: gonna put them on a pedestal, because adults are making

1188
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 2: them more cool by telling these kids how they can't

1189
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 2: listen to them, or they shouldn't listen to them, or

1190
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,439
Speaker 2: how you know, like saying like they're almost raising their

1191
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 2: star further as what's done to us.

1192
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: Agreed.

1193
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know that that's the right solution. But

1194
01:07:35,240 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 2: what I do know is niggas my age need to

1195
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 2: kill the fuck out because your black ass does no better.

1196
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 2: You're not confused, You're not fucking This isn't a tough

1197
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 2: call for you. You're just thinking about twenty year old

1198
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 2: yourself and how trash you were and going, well, I

1199
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 2: guess I should da da da da. Now. I don't

1200
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: know if you was out here beating people. I don't

1201
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 2: know if you was out here fucking attacking people, raping people,

1202
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 2: beating up people in homophobic like hate crime type fashion.

1203
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck you is doing. I

1204
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 2: can't speak for myself. What I do know is even

1205
01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: twenty year old Ridney that shit was wrong and didn't

1206
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,480
Speaker 2: do it, and we're it is not above the comprehension

1207
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 2: of a twenty year old person to know come on now,

1208
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 2: they are.

1209
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: Actually really smart and bright and intelligent, and I'm telling

1210
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:31,640
Speaker 1: you right now, truth be told. Statistically, they beat our

1211
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 1: asses in every level, less teenage, pregnancy, less STDs, higher educated. Now,

1212
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 1: they might not make as much money when they graduate

1213
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: from college compared to us statistically, but they beat us

1214
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: in other fields. A lot of times people fantasize and

1215
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 1: they just think their generation was the best generation ever. Nigga,

1216
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: We was the crack epidemic era. Like, do people forget that.

1217
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 2: The same people that thought fourteen year old girls were

1218
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 2: grown enough to have sex with R. Kelly are the

1219
01:09:03,320 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 2: same people that think a twenty year old man was

1220
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 2: too young to have been set in his ways. I mean,

1221
01:09:14,080 --> 01:09:18,240
Speaker 2: that's that. That shit takes the cake, you know, And

1222
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,640
Speaker 2: we only do it when it's one of us. We

1223
01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,559
Speaker 2: don't do this shit for other people. We just don't.

1224
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:29,759
Speaker 2: We are so selfish within our own group. It's us first,

1225
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 2: fuck everybody else, right, everybody else is piece of shit

1226
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: except for us, And nah, we have to be better

1227
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: than that. I'm sorry, but like, I can't really speak

1228
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 2: on this dude's work, you know, So I can't even

1229
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,679
Speaker 2: really speak to that shit. I wasn't consuming it other

1230
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 2: people that were probably gonna have a lot more lenient

1231
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 2: stances and ideas about this, just on the outside looking in,

1232
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 2: trying to have have as much compassion as I can have.

1233
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 2: I still can't put this dude ahead of all the

1234
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,680
Speaker 2: damage that he did to people, because I know I

1235
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:12,160
Speaker 2: wouldn't do it if it was just some fucking white dude.

1236
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 2: I know I wouldn't, and a lot of these motherfuckers

1237
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 2: know y'all wouldn't either. So what's up with the act.

1238
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 2: Is it compassion for him or is it compassion for

1239
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: your fucking self? Because you hold these mentalities and ideas

1240
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,720
Speaker 2: and you want to make sure that your patriarchal status

1241
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,799
Speaker 2: is protected at all costs, above and beyond the safety

1242
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: of those around us. The number one thing is that

1243
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:42,640
Speaker 2: we have to be the fucking Tyrannosaurus rex that is

1244
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 2: eating on the top of the fucking food chain, and

1245
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 2: everybody else eats after us, and that is what he is.

1246
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 2: His death has become a symbol of for a lot

1247
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 2: of people, protecting that status of sis had Black men,

1248
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 2: even if they're abusive, we have to make sure that

1249
01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:01,760
Speaker 2: they stay on the top of that pedestal because nothing

1250
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 2: should be able to get us off of there. If

1251
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,719
Speaker 2: there was any motherfuck on the earth that you could

1252
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,040
Speaker 2: just be like, I'm not gonna give a fuck. This

1253
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 2: is the time, and a lot of niggas who normally

1254
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:13,840
Speaker 2: do talk about how they don't give a fuck, I

1255
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 2: don't talk about this. Why y'all le shit bother y'all

1256
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,559
Speaker 2: are the first purpose to jump on top of the

1257
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:22,639
Speaker 2: casket on some why Lord, why not my baby shit?

1258
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 2: Right now? Come on now, it's so transparent and so obvious,

1259
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: and it's actually insulting to watch men that would pretend

1260
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 2: to be good promote being good jump over themselves to

1261
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 2: prove how much they identify and sympathize and empathize with

1262
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 2: this dude. I don't like I said, Man, this is

1263
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 2: why we need lovers everything, because a lot of niggas

1264
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,880
Speaker 2: need to learn how to detoxify themselves. And here you're

1265
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 2: way too old to be defending this shit. Like it's like,

1266
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:10,280
Speaker 2: if I could find some level of empathy for him

1267
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: dying at twenty, I can find none for you at

1268
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 2: thirty forty fifty defending this nigga. I have none for

1269
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 2: you because you should know better and you don't, and

1270
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 2: you weren't saying shit to try to reach this dude

1271
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 2: to help him get better or dudes like him to

1272
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 2: help them get better. But your damn should jump on

1273
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 2: top of the fucking casket to make sure that nobody

1274
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: misremembers that. Nobody actually properly remembers that this dude as

1275
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,760
Speaker 2: an abuse her. Nobody's allowed to do that. Nothing to

1276
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 2: see here, And it wasn't as pronounced with Erica Gardner

1277
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 2: because honestly, she was an activist, She was in the street,

1278
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 2: She did a lot of work. But even with all that,

1279
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: you're still a sum of a lot of moments, and

1280
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 2: she has some fucked up moments towards LGBTQ people. Man,

1281
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 2: it was there's not a good way to capital, there's

1282
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 2: no good way to to go out, so over that

1283
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,240
Speaker 2: and yet still you know she had to take them

1284
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 2: them lumps, Her family had to take them lums. People

1285
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,000
Speaker 2: that know her took them lumps. Nobody need to jump

1286
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 2: in front of that, But I saw people jump in

1287
01:13:11,680 --> 01:13:13,559
Speaker 2: front of it. And it'd be funny if I was

1288
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 2: a more petty person. I go look through people's archives

1289
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:20,040
Speaker 2: right now and find exactly what they were saying a

1290
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,760
Speaker 2: few months ago about how she was too young and

1291
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 2: you can't judge her and da da da da, But

1292
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 2: now it's this nigga's judged and forever and it's just

1293
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 2: the slippery slope on this bitch. You know. I'm sure

1294
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 2: we all do it, but it's just interesting that where

1295
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 2: people draw the line and what group you belong to.

1296
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: All right, that's all I have to say about that

1297
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 2: nigga caring. I'm sorry, did you want to adding? I

1298
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 2: know you didn't follow this.

1299
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: Story really, m m m m, because you know I'm

1300
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 1: black and old, so every time you bring his name up,

1301
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,959
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah.

1302
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 2: I've just seen so many people with the hot takes

1303
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,760
Speaker 2: on it. I wanted to drop mine in context on

1304
01:13:57,840 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 2: here because I wouldn't even say this on social media

1305
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 2: because I see most people would just try to take

1306
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: it out of context. Oh and the dude six 's

1307
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 2: nine said he, uh need to stop all his trolling

1308
01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 2: after this dude died. She got real? Sit got real?

1309
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, a lot of people better realize shit got real.

1310
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: So all fun and games, so motherfuckers started killing people

1311
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, it's like, maybe I

1312
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 2: need to stop telling people come kill me and shit, Uh,

1313
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:36,040
Speaker 2: you know, when they actually will fucking come kill me. Whoops,

1314
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 2: so ridiculous, man, But it's yeah, you have to laugh

1315
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: to keep from you have to laugh to keep from crying. Man.

1316
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 2: He said, I'm just thinking sometimes I do too much trolling,

1317
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 2: and tomorrow's not promising. I feel like someone might get

1318
01:14:47,960 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 2: the wrong image of me. You could be here today

1319
01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 2: and going tomorrow. He then went on to say the

1320
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:53,880
Speaker 2: late rapper was always good to him, while also giving

1321
01:14:53,960 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 2: him advice about his music. The rapper also speculated that

1322
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 2: there are probably many people out there looking to kill me,

1323
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,799
Speaker 2: while saying he has been taking his life for granted.

1324
01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:09,799
Speaker 2: Uh so yeah and that and that XX ex Temptation.

1325
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: Dude had a.

1326
01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 2: Had a video before he died talking about how he

1327
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: wants to leave a good legacy and da da da da.

1328
01:15:17,400 --> 01:15:22,479
Speaker 2: I'm like, you can't just talk that game. You gotta

1329
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 2: you gotta fucking do it, you know. Like that's the thing.

1330
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 2: Like people skip over the fact that he could talk

1331
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: a good game. And I and and like I said,

1332
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: very similar to Pocket Mama in my mind, very similar

1333
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 2: because that was why a lot of people love Toopockets

1334
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 2: because at his highest and his highest moral peak, he

1335
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,559
Speaker 2: could be a paragon of virtue. You know, he could

1336
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,280
Speaker 2: be a dude that made you feel like, oh he

1337
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 2: sees me and he speaks for me. You know, he

1338
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 2: can see be a dude that sees the plight of

1339
01:15:55,720 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 2: a young black girl who gets pregnant and Brenda just

1340
01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: got a baby. You know he could do.

1341
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: Dear Mama, you know olde to his his mother who

1342
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,759
Speaker 1: you know, while dealing with crack addiction, raised him still

1343
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: and it's so forgiving and empathetic and understanding it.

1344
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,240
Speaker 2: It can make you cry. It's that strong of a song.

1345
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 2: But he can also be the dude that said, yeah,

1346
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 2: fuck your bitch, you know, yeah, you know, fuck your

1347
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:30,439
Speaker 2: bitch and the click you claim west Side when we

1348
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: ride him a quit with game like you can still

1349
01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: be that dude. You know, he's the same guy do

1350
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,679
Speaker 2: get around as he is on Heaven Got a Ghetto

1351
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 2: Like people aren't one way all the time. And I

1352
01:16:41,680 --> 01:16:44,040
Speaker 2: feel like for the kids, this is their time to

1353
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 2: go through what we went through. I'm not judging the

1354
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 2: kids on this. Nope. Could we like some horrible people,

1355
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 2: Big Pun beat his wife. I don't camera. I didn't

1356
01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:55,880
Speaker 2: even find that shit out till like three years ago, right,

1357
01:16:56,840 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 2: but god, God knows how many signs of porto urry talk, mom,

1358
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,280
Speaker 2: how many times am I fucking you know, don't want

1359
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 2: me a plan no more? I probably listen to that

1360
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: for the rest of my life without even thinking about

1361
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: that shit. But he did do that shit, you know,

1362
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: doctor Dre and d Bars. I mean niggas was just

1363
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 2: celebrating the NWA movie two years ago, hoping that it

1364
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:26,120
Speaker 2: won an Oscar. We are complicit because our generation led

1365
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,880
Speaker 2: to this generation. We begot this shit, and now we're

1366
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,680
Speaker 2: trying to say, well, I'm forty and I realized how

1367
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 2: fucked up that was. So you kids should already know

1368
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: that's not how any of life works. Some of y'all

1369
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:40,920
Speaker 2: got kids, and you know that ain't how that works.

1370
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 2: The lessons you can impart are the lessons you can impart.

1371
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,120
Speaker 2: But part of the reason kids don't see those lessons

1372
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,559
Speaker 2: becuse they haven't lived them yet. Hopefully this is their

1373
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: moment of living these lessons and being looking. One day

1374
01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 2: they'll look back and go, wow, that was a crazy time.

1375
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: I hope so I need too, but they get to

1376
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 2: get a chance. But you old niggas no passes. You

1377
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 2: should know better. National Bellout Groups posted bells for dads

1378
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: so they could be home on Father's Day. Wonderful for

1379
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: all the people that did the well, y'all build out

1380
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 2: the mothers. But what about yeah, they did that too.

1381
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 2: The yeah So National Bell Out is supported by Veriager's

1382
01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: social justice grassroots groups such as Color Changed, the Movement

1383
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:33,120
Speaker 2: for Black Lives, and National Bail Fund Network. June fourteenth,

1384
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,320
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Community Bell Fund bailed out at ten black dads.

1385
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:41,000
Speaker 2: Local organizer Kandas McKinley told The Philadelphia Tribune, We're just

1386
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:42,880
Speaker 2: happy that we can help these men return to their

1387
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:46,519
Speaker 2: family and loved ones in time for Father's Day. Yeah.

1388
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: It's interesting too, because I wonder how I guess it's

1389
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,120
Speaker 2: different with men. You probably have to see what they're

1390
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 2: locked up for too, Yeah, and to make sure that

1391
01:18:56,080 --> 01:19:00,320
Speaker 2: they're not getting out and an abusive situations and shitt

1392
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 2: which is probably a concern you have less of with women.

1393
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 2: But I guess you'd have to check everybody's record to

1394
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 2: make sure they're okay. Yes, sir, but let's see what

1395
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:16,240
Speaker 2: else happened. Family Matters star Daris mccrarry's child support has

1396
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 2: been reduced to twenty nine dollars a month.

1397
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, twenty nine.

1398
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, you may know him as Eddie Winslow. Oh on

1399
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 2: family matters, you.

1400
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,560
Speaker 1: Didn't get him a loan way.

1401
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had to move in with his aunt and uncle.

1402
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:36,320
Speaker 2: Yo's iris ninety thousand dollars and he couldn't afford to

1403
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 2: require visitation monitor to see his daughter. He hasn't really

1404
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 2: been working.

1405
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 1: So.

1406
01:19:44,439 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 2: He uh had to reduce his child sport. He allegedly

1407
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: reported his income as four hundred and sixty two dollars

1408
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 2: a month. Based on that figures, monthly child's port payments

1409
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,759
Speaker 2: were reduced to twenty nine dollars a month. It's required

1410
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,600
Speaker 2: to pay for fifty percent of his daughter's health and

1411
01:20:02,680 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 2: medical costs to How can you even afford that with

1412
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,840
Speaker 2: four fifty two a month? His daughter can't never get

1413
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 2: a cold?

1414
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 1: Oh fall that ship.

1415
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,920
Speaker 2: I don't even cover copain. I know he'd be mad

1416
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 2: as hell. Girl. Why are you getting third flud? Go

1417
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: on ahead and get dimon tapped. You know it's cheaper.

1418
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,760
Speaker 2: I can't afford half half a damn third flock? Can

1419
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 2: before half a dim tap? Maybe I can't give him

1420
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,360
Speaker 2: some cough drops instead? What about some hot tea?

1421
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 1: Not the good kind don't get no recoler.

1422
01:20:30,520 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 2: Sip on some hot water. Yeah, get these public's cough

1423
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: drops man. So yeah, they got him. He was just

1424
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 2: working too. Oh well, let's see what else think. I'm

1425
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 2: gonna skip fucking with black people today. Okay, but I

1426
01:20:49,720 --> 01:20:54,719
Speaker 2: am gonna talk about the trash cuz, man, I'm gonna

1427
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 2: talk a lot this episode. Sorry, everybody can feel free

1428
01:20:58,680 --> 01:20:59,960
Speaker 2: chime in. I know I'm talking a lot.

1429
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 1: I will, I will.

1430
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 2: All right, let's do some taking out the trash then,

1431
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: because we need to throw this nigga, Chris Hardwick in

1432
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 2: the motherfucking trash.

1433
01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: And uh be sure to turn it down.

1434
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 2: We definitely got to talk about this. Oh yeah, let

1435
01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:18,759
Speaker 2: me turn the volume down. Thank you. That's a good catch.

1436
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 2: I know, Jeff somewhere like, oh man, my ears. So

1437
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:01,560
Speaker 2: Chris Hardwick has been pulled. Amc is pulled him from

1438
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 2: their Talking Dead show, like they're not even doing the

1439
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 2: talking shows like Talking Dead talking I guess whatever. Bad Lands, Yeah, Preacher,

1440
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:17,040
Speaker 2: which comes back like I think maybe just Sunday shout

1441
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: out to my show. That's my show, y'all. Yes, anyway,

1442
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 2: they've had to pull him from comic com panels everything

1443
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 2: because he's he's a big part of nerddom and the

1444
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 2: way that nerd them is set up. He's he's the

1445
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 2: Ryan Seacrest of nerds, essentially.

1446
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,720
Speaker 1: Literallying mm hmm.

1447
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:39,280
Speaker 2: So AMC issue the statement announceing this removal of several

1448
01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: shows and events associated with the podcast and talk show

1449
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,680
Speaker 2: host Chris Harwick, including the second season debut of his

1450
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 2: show h Talking with Chris Harwick, which was Oh, that's right.

1451
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: Because they normally would do that doing the off season

1452
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: of the show.

1453
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was just like a talk show, correct. Yeah,

1454
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,679
Speaker 2: it wasn't even about specific like shows anymore.

1455
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: And MC it's almost a way to get him on

1456
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 1: all year round.

1457
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: Truthfully. The news comes in the wake of allegations made

1458
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 2: by actress and cosplayer Chloe Dykstra, who recently posted a

1459
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:15,760
Speaker 2: medium essay in which she gave details a first person

1460
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,719
Speaker 2: account of sexually and emotionally abusive relationship with the podcast

1461
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: to term media presence wanted many of us soon to

1462
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 2: be Hardwick, her former boyfriend of several years. AMC's statement

1463
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:28,800
Speaker 2: emphasized the networks long positive working relationship with Hardwick, who

1464
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 2: hosts this walking down after show Talking Dead, but made

1465
01:23:31,000 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 2: it clear that the network takes these allegations very seriously

1466
01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 2: and they will assess the situation. Talking with Chris Hardwick

1467
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 2: will not air on AMC, and Chris is decided to

1468
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:45,559
Speaker 2: step aside for moderating playing AMC and BBC America panels

1469
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 2: at Coma KAW International in San Diego next month. Yes,

1470
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 2: it's interesting that choice of words there. Decided to step aside.

1471
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 2: I know you had brought that up in the car.

1472
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, things, Yeah.

1473
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:05,800
Speaker 2: Because as opposed to saying we're forcing him to step down,

1474
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 2: it has to look like it's his decision, of course,

1475
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 2: and uh probably you know, lawsuit wise and shit that

1476
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,360
Speaker 2: may come out of this if he tries a file

1477
01:24:14,400 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: for some type of wrong for termination blah blah blah.

1478
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 1: And or it may have been his idea, but I

1479
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: doubt did.

1480
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,679
Speaker 2: He released his own statement last night denying the claims

1481
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,560
Speaker 2: made in Dykstra's essay, and he said he was heartbroken

1482
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:31,599
Speaker 2: to read the piece and stated that he never sexually

1483
01:24:31,640 --> 01:24:45,080
Speaker 2: assaulted her, which I find kind of interesting that that

1484
01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 2: was his response because I did read her medium piece

1485
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: and uh, it's extremely uh uh detailed. I'm sure it's

1486
01:24:55,280 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 2: triggering the people. It's very you know, she's talking about

1487
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 2: emotional abuse. She's talking about dealing with her with an

1488
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 2: eating disorder. The way he talked to her, the power

1489
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 2: differential in the relationship. Twenty years older than her when

1490
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,040
Speaker 2: they met. They met at a con, so he's already

1491
01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 2: kind of in a power position anyway. He uh, kind

1492
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 2: of dominated her in their life, which a lot of

1493
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: you know, men can do with younger women. A lot

1494
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: of the nerd culture around women and is very much misogyny.

1495
01:25:42,120 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 2: But they feel like they're entitled to it because they're

1496
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:48,400
Speaker 2: not football players. And shit, I'm a good guy, so

1497
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 2: I should be able to just fucking treat you like

1498
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 2: shit because I'm a good guy. They don't really want

1499
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 2: to be a good guy. They just want to refer

1500
01:25:55,160 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 2: to himselfs as something with the actions. But yeah, she said,

1501
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 2: I struggle with such great, a great fear of talking

1502
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 2: publicly about my experience with long term abuse. There's an

1503
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: explicit danger putting my personal professional reputation online. It's so

1504
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 2: easy to make judgments about someone you don't know personally,

1505
01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 2: or maybe do know personally, but not well, it's the

1506
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 2: same both ways. Did they didn't they? I'm here to

1507
01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 2: tell my story, not necessarily intending to point my finger

1508
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:21,240
Speaker 2: at the man who did it, though that may be

1509
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: an unfortunate consequence for him, but for a different reason.

1510
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 2: So she said, she wrote this to get closer. She

1511
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: approaches her thirties five distability. Quite simply, she wanted this

1512
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 2: out of them. I want this out of me, but

1513
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 2: more poorly. Number two a warning like, if you're dealing

1514
01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:42,759
Speaker 2: with this dude, be careful. So she met this dude

1515
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,360
Speaker 2: and the relationship started out poorly. Within two weeks. Rules

1516
01:26:47,400 --> 01:26:50,000
Speaker 2: were quickly established. Some of them included I should not

1517
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 2: want to go somewhere at night. My nights were respected

1518
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 2: to be reserved for him. He had a busy schedule.

1519
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 2: This alienated me from my friends. She couldn't have close

1520
01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 2: male friends unless they were work together. Photos of male

1521
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: friends were to be removed from my apartment. This is

1522
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 2: heartbreaking for me as my best friend it happens to

1523
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 2: be male. And this is within two weeks. Who moves

1524
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 2: this fast? So first of all, all these niggas that

1525
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,560
Speaker 2: you know your whole life, cal.

1526
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:19,639
Speaker 1: That sounds very controlling, and you know it's hard when

1527
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:22,480
Speaker 1: you lose friends due to somebody else being controlling.

1528
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says he was sober, she couldn't drink alcohol.

1529
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:30,080
Speaker 2: I know, jaded glass wine with dinner. That's going to stop,

1530
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 2: he told her. Which is another thing too though, like

1531
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,640
Speaker 2: people were looking to try to find an excuse of

1532
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 2: like maybe this is back when he was dealing with

1533
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 2: his drug and alcohol abuse days now, I did this

1534
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:49,920
Speaker 2: shit stone coat so because she was not to speak

1535
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:53,160
Speaker 2: in public places elevators, cars or drivers, restaurants where tables

1536
01:27:53,160 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 2: were too close, as he believed that people recognize him

1537
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,760
Speaker 2: and were listening to our conversations. Our dinners out were

1538
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 2: usually silent him on his phone. Who the fuck can

1539
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 2: do that? Don't speak to me? Essentially, uh five, I

1540
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:11,840
Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to take a photo of us. Eventually he

1541
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 2: softened on this rule, but was very stern about me

1542
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,040
Speaker 2: asking permission. Those are just a few of the rules.

1543
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:19,960
Speaker 2: And I made a choice to accept this controlling behavior.

1544
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 2: And he just left his long term girlfriend and I

1545
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: assumed that he was going through some serious emotional discomfort.

1546
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 2: This is a huge mistake. Yeah, that's another thing with

1547
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,440
Speaker 2: these nerddes, man, they really are good at making themselves

1548
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 2: the victim. Like I have this controlling behavior, but it's

1549
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,920
Speaker 2: because girls don't like me. Or they treated me bad

1550
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 2: or whatever like, and they'll use the girl who did

1551
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:47,080
Speaker 2: the wrong in fifth grade to be the reason I

1552
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 2: can whoop your ass because I never got over that,

1553
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: so it's your fault. I first conventioned together at Comic Con.

1554
01:28:56,280 --> 01:29:00,759
Speaker 2: He instructed me not to leave the hotel room by himself.

1555
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 2: Ain't got a famous actress's number with the intention of

1556
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,040
Speaker 2: dating her at the same time as me. I found

1557
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 2: out months later and couldn't bring myself to say anything

1558
01:29:07,280 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 2: because by that time my self worth was in the toilet.

1559
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something that abuses do a lot. They date

1560
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 1: women that have like this high self esteem, high self esteem,

1561
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:22,120
Speaker 1: and they slowly chip at it till it becomes low

1562
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:26,559
Speaker 1: for some women like me. Funny some people. Yeah, some

1563
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: abusers they go low. They all low, But some abusers

1564
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:34,960
Speaker 1: go high and just chip at, just chip and this thing.

1565
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 1: You know, people realize that one's personality is changing, she

1566
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,320
Speaker 1: don't go out as much, she's cut her friends, and

1567
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 1: so they they chip at you until you get to

1568
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,479
Speaker 1: the point where your self esteem is low.

1569
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,639
Speaker 2: They try to break your right.

1570
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 1: A lot of people assume that abuses always go out

1571
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,840
Speaker 1: to somebody that's already broken that's not.

1572
01:29:53,880 --> 01:29:56,640
Speaker 2: So let me go to the next section because we

1573
01:29:56,640 --> 01:29:58,360
Speaker 2: about to get cut off. Guys, We'll be right back.

1574
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,639
Speaker 2: That's a great point, though I didn't even think about

1575
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 2: because the cliche is, you know, you find this girl

1576
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 2: who already doesn't have believe in herself, you target this person,

1577
01:30:09,720 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, and that's what abuse looks like.

1578
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because for some men, there's nothing worse than a

1579
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 1: confident bitch. There's nothing worse than a woman that is

1580
01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,800
Speaker 1: very confident and knows what she wants to know how

1581
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,800
Speaker 1: she wants it, and it's very demanding and and and

1582
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: loves herself. And some men actually treated as a challenge

1583
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: to actually get a woman to the point where she's

1584
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,640
Speaker 1: quote unquote broken down and she feels worthless and she

1585
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:41,559
Speaker 1: depends on him like that, Like that really is a thing,

1586
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: you know. It's like, you know, it's like, does something

1587
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 1: through this masculinity, How dare you, you know, demand this

1588
01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: authority or demand my attention?

1589
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:53,759
Speaker 2: You know, it should be the other way around.

1590
01:30:54,479 --> 01:30:56,720
Speaker 1: And that happens to a lot of women too, And

1591
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 1: that's part of abusive behavior that people don't want to

1592
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 1: talk about because everybody assume that everybody's aiming low.

1593
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 2: Nope.

1594
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: Some people go for the most confident, confident person in

1595
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:07,960
Speaker 1: the room, and that's who they target.

1596
01:31:08,479 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 2: I was quickly pressured to take an on camera job

1597
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 2: at this company I didn't want because he is sinuated.

1598
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 2: I would be grateful to not accept it. Scared to

1599
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 2: upset him, I accepted the job, but I refuse payment

1600
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 2: for my work. Man. Yeah, he should have took that check. Uh,

1601
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,360
Speaker 2: feelings got comfortable about the whole thing, but I but

1602
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 2: I get it too, because you don't want to be

1603
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,799
Speaker 2: financially dependent on this nigga. But at the same time,

1604
01:31:36,080 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 2: like clearly this was about control anyway, of course, that's.

1605
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 1: That's all it is is about.

1606
01:31:44,479 --> 01:31:44,959
Speaker 2: Control.

1607
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,599
Speaker 1: And the thing about control that people who have never

1608
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:51,280
Speaker 1: been around controlling people, like abusive controlling people, and have

1609
01:31:51,439 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: never been around people like this, they don't understand that

1610
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: the control doesn't happen instantly, you know. And a lot

1611
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 1: of people who've never been in abusive relationships and shit

1612
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 1: like that, sometimes they can that's what they taught because

1613
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: you go where you really don't know what you're talking

1614
01:32:02,600 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: about because you've actually never been in an abusive relationship

1615
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 1: and dealt with an abusive person and had to actually

1616
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: deal with it. So you're just talking this theory and

1617
01:32:10,360 --> 01:32:14,479
Speaker 1: this philosophical shit. When push come to shove an abusive person,

1618
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:16,559
Speaker 1: just don't come in one day. But a ha ha, betch

1619
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: I gotcha. No, it's slow. It's a slow methodical. It's

1620
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,240
Speaker 1: like a really really like a crock pot. It's a

1621
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:25,519
Speaker 1: slow burn.

1622
01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:32,960
Speaker 2: Another point. She also probably didn't want to take the

1623
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:36,760
Speaker 2: check because of how it looked. Correct, Oh, his girlfriend

1624
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 2: works here and we got to give her a job. Why,

1625
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:45,439
Speaker 2: like she you, you did to earn this job, so

1626
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to check. I't want you to think

1627
01:32:47,320 --> 01:32:50,800
Speaker 2: I'm just in here getting paid because I'm fucking this dude.

1628
01:32:52,360 --> 01:32:54,400
Speaker 2: But yes, even though they did eventually force her to

1629
01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: take a check, probably because the company was like, you

1630
01:32:57,160 --> 01:32:59,920
Speaker 2: literally have to right by this time, Like I said,

1631
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 2: I was terrified to pis him off. So I did

1632
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:05,639
Speaker 2: what he said, including letting him sexually assault me regularly.

1633
01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 2: I was expected to be ready for him when he

1634
01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 2: came home from work. How did this happen? At the

1635
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:11,560
Speaker 2: beginning our relationship, I was quite ill often due to

1636
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:14,000
Speaker 2: my die something I'll get to in a bit. One night,

1637
01:33:14,040 --> 01:33:16,839
Speaker 2: he initiated and I said, I'm sorry, Can we not tonight?

1638
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 2: I'm really feeling sick. He responded, I just wanted to

1639
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,679
Speaker 2: remind you the reason my last relationship didn't work out

1640
01:33:22,760 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 2: was because of the lack of sex. It was a

1641
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,600
Speaker 2: veiled threat, and I succumbed every night. I laid that

1642
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 2: for him, occasionally in tears. He called it starfishing. He

1643
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:33,680
Speaker 2: thought the whole idea was funny. To be fair, I

1644
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:35,760
Speaker 2: did go along with that out of fear of losing him.

1645
01:33:35,800 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 2: I'm still recovering from men sexually used, not in a

1646
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:39,640
Speaker 2: super fun way for three years.

1647
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's a fear that a lot of men

1648
01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 1: know that a lot of women have, you know, because

1649
01:33:48,560 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: society has taught women straight women. But society has taught

1650
01:33:52,479 --> 01:33:56,040
Speaker 1: people you're worthless if you are alone, that you're not

1651
01:33:56,200 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 1: worthy of anybody if you are alone, And that's not true.

1652
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 2: Sometimes you are your.

1653
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:07,639
Speaker 1: Own best company. Being alone a quote unquote bad thing,

1654
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, but society teaches it is a bad thing.

1655
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 1: When you're alone, you can learn yourself who you are

1656
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: when you alone, You can grow when you alone. You

1657
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,800
Speaker 1: can just do a lot of things that you don't

1658
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 1: have to deal with when you have a partner or

1659
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 1: a mate, and all relationships ain't good relationships.

1660
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:28,679
Speaker 2: Well. Also in this there's this dynamic of this older

1661
01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:33,360
Speaker 2: man telling a younger woman like, this is just life, honey,

1662
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 2: Like this is what it is. Yeah, Like you don't

1663
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:38,680
Speaker 2: know as much as I know. I'm fifty. You know

1664
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm telling you right now. If you're not fucking me,

1665
01:34:42,040 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 2: then I'm pretty much just gonna have to cheat on

1666
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,800
Speaker 2: you and treat you like shit. So I don't care

1667
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 2: if you just gotta lay there and give it to me.

1668
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 2: You just gotta you gotta do what you gotta do,

1669
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 2: because you're grown up now, baby, this is what it is.

1670
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:55,320
Speaker 2: And I can see somebody kind of being like, I

1671
01:34:55,320 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 2: guess this is what sex is.

1672
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 1: Correct and for us and me and you talked about it.

1673
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 1: That's why a lot of these older dudes, a lot

1674
01:35:03,040 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 1: of it. They get the same generic woman that's fifteen

1675
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,639
Speaker 1: to twenty years to senor this purpose that I think

1676
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,920
Speaker 1: is purposely done because they know you don't know nothing,

1677
01:35:12,160 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: you're still learning, you haven't completely come into womanhood yet.

1678
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:17,920
Speaker 1: You know. They don't want to have nobody that got

1679
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:19,720
Speaker 1: demands and go tell them what they is and the

1680
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:21,559
Speaker 1: ain't gonna do. They don't want to have nobody that'll

1681
01:35:21,600 --> 01:35:24,200
Speaker 1: actually buck up against them and be like, I'm not

1682
01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:26,120
Speaker 1: gonna tolerate this shit. Yep.

1683
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:31,200
Speaker 2: Uh. And also just as a human being, what does

1684
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,559
Speaker 2: that say about you? You would lay there while somebody's

1685
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:37,240
Speaker 2: fucking crying underneath you on some color purple shit, Like,

1686
01:35:37,400 --> 01:35:40,880
Speaker 2: what that's your sex, that's your love life?

1687
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:41,640
Speaker 1: Uh.

1688
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:43,240
Speaker 2: The first time I told him I loved him, after

1689
01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,479
Speaker 2: six months of hope and he said first his response was,

1690
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,960
Speaker 2: and I quote, I think I love you too, a

1691
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 2: homophobic slur, which I'm assuming he thought was a funny joke,

1692
01:35:56,120 --> 01:36:00,599
Speaker 2: like I'm being sarcastic. But uh, now that she's put

1693
01:36:00,600 --> 01:36:07,240
Speaker 2: his business in the street, none of them was. What

1694
01:36:07,400 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 2: I wanted was a partner, someone that could fide in,

1695
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:12,240
Speaker 2: someone to share things with, someone who wouldn't judge me,

1696
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:14,680
Speaker 2: someone I knew would be there for me. What I

1697
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:18,160
Speaker 2: felt that this man wanted was a woman who would

1698
01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,160
Speaker 2: feed him, sleep with him, and go to events with him.

1699
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 2: I watched the support of him as he grew from

1700
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 2: aley successful podcast in the Powerhouse CEO of his own company.

1701
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 2: He was obsessed with celebrity, being famous, famous people. He

1702
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:30,040
Speaker 2: did not spend any time with people he considered friends.

1703
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:33,640
Speaker 2: It only really made time for industry people who he

1704
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 2: considered worth it. I myself was very little personal support,

1705
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 2: had very little personal support, and I've been alienated for

1706
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 2: my own friends. Alienation is a huge part of abuse.

1707
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:46,280
Speaker 1: That's one of the number one signs.

1708
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 2: Other than an occasional party. I was obligated to leave

1709
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:51,280
Speaker 2: early where he decided it was time. Sometimes he'd let

1710
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:53,200
Speaker 2: me go play D and D, but I always had

1711
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 2: a curfew. He would yell at his voicemails at me,

1712
01:36:55,720 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 2: and if I didn't answer his calls. I was expected

1713
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:00,559
Speaker 2: to follow him everywhere and exist pretty much so for him,

1714
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,320
Speaker 2: say for a hosting job once in a while, when

1715
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,320
Speaker 2: cameras were on us, he was a prince. Turned him

1716
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 2: off and he was a nightmare. Yeah, I mean, this

1717
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:12,200
Speaker 2: dude has also been trying to be famous since fucking uh.

1718
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:15,160
Speaker 2: He was on MTV on that dating show.

1719
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,639
Speaker 1: I remember somebody saying that I don't remember that show,

1720
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 1: but somethime remember somebody bringing it up.

1721
01:37:19,400 --> 01:37:24,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, he like kind of rebranded himself as the nerd dude,

1722
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:29,360
Speaker 2: Mike the nerdy. I mean, I think nerdous, Like I'm

1723
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: the nerdiest nerd dude. So I don't think it was

1724
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:48,800
Speaker 2: very far fetched that he could be a guy that

1725
01:37:48,840 --> 01:37:51,640
Speaker 2: would craft his image very I mean, you have to

1726
01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:55,080
Speaker 2: almost to do what he did for a living, which was, hey,

1727
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,960
Speaker 2: I get famous people to come on my shit, you

1728
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I'm I'm professionally a nice guy,

1729
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 2: Like I have to do that. I have to turn

1730
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 2: on the I say, it's a muscle all the time,

1731
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: you know, like people have that muscle and it doesn't

1732
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,679
Speaker 2: necessarily mean to make them a good or bad person.

1733
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 2: But you know, Megan Kelly doesn't have that muscle, but

1734
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 2: our broker does. A roker could be the dust evilest

1735
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 2: vow motherfucker behind the scenes. But that camera turns on.

1736
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:25,360
Speaker 1: Hey hey home there, we got our.

1737
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 2: Cold friend coming in. He's like, whoa, Okay, you can

1738
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:30,760
Speaker 2: turn that. You know, it's a funny Chappelle Joe. They

1739
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 2: turned off the camera and he's like, no, I talked

1740
01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,679
Speaker 2: like this motherfucker. You know. So it's that kind of thing.

1741
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 2: But yet I wouldn't be shocked. I mean, the dude

1742
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 2: has crafted an image. You know. I watched the support

1743
01:38:47,479 --> 01:38:51,160
Speaker 2: him and Da Da Da Da when during all of

1744
01:38:51,160 --> 01:38:53,280
Speaker 2: this I lost myself up mentally and physically. I lost

1745
01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 2: fifteen pounds in a week, started pulling out my own hair,

1746
01:38:55,560 --> 01:38:57,800
Speaker 2: had to get extensions regularly to hide it. I generally

1747
01:38:57,800 --> 01:38:59,960
Speaker 2: stopped speaking less spoken to a while with him drifting

1748
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:01,639
Speaker 2: through life like a ghost. I would try to sleep

1749
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 2: in as late as possible, so my days was shorter.

1750
01:39:05,000 --> 01:39:07,240
Speaker 2: I stopped listening to music entirely. I ceased to be

1751
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,320
Speaker 2: I was an ex person. And then she talked about

1752
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 2: how she had to save herself. She ended up following

1753
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:16,679
Speaker 2: for another man like as soon as she left him.

1754
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 2: She literally just met the dude, and basically she was

1755
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:23,200
Speaker 2: looking for the first motherfucker that she thought could save

1756
01:39:23,280 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 2: her from him. Unfortunately, there was a slight crossover a

1757
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,840
Speaker 2: kiss a kiss, and I immediately told him about He

1758
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:34,240
Speaker 2: surprisingly instantly forgave me the total one eighty, begged me

1759
01:39:34,240 --> 01:39:35,719
Speaker 2: not to leave him, even told me he was playing

1760
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,760
Speaker 2: to propose, despite stating previously had no attention to marry me.

1761
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,679
Speaker 2: I knew this all stem from his fear of being alone.

1762
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:43,040
Speaker 2: He actually got engaged very shortly after I left him,

1763
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 2: so luckily I remained stronger than I was alt to

1764
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 2: leave him, despite my only desire for three years, being

1765
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 2: that he loved me the way I loved him. One

1766
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:51,960
Speaker 2: of the things interesting that he would talk about with

1767
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 2: Chris har I don't listen to his podcast, so I

1768
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:57,640
Speaker 2: didn't notice. I'm not you know, I recognize he's a

1769
01:39:57,680 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 2: stable of TV, but I'm not a huge fan of is.

1770
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,720
Speaker 2: He apparently used to go on this podcast all the

1771
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:07,120
Speaker 2: time and talk about his ex girlfriend in very mean

1772
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,719
Speaker 2: ways and say she cheated on him and oh yes,

1773
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:13,280
Speaker 2: and all this shit. So for people that are doing

1774
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:15,719
Speaker 2: the whole what about him, he too is gone too far?

1775
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,360
Speaker 2: How can she just put this account out there? He's

1776
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 2: been going around telling people she cheated on him, and

1777
01:40:20,760 --> 01:40:22,840
Speaker 2: they had a public relationship for a few years. People

1778
01:40:23,040 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 2: know that they were together, they know her through him,

1779
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:29,960
Speaker 2: she worked at his company. Yeah, nigga, that that's not

1780
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,080
Speaker 2: cool either. You don't. You don't get to decide when

1781
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:35,599
Speaker 2: I retaliate that it's fucked up for me to say

1782
01:40:35,640 --> 01:40:38,559
Speaker 2: something after a nigga has been dragging me across the

1783
01:40:38,560 --> 01:40:43,679
Speaker 2: fucking timeline and and and and the podcast land every day.

1784
01:40:44,040 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 2: You don't get to say I'm the one that's an

1785
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:53,000
Speaker 2: asshole who does that anyway, because of my leaving him

1786
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:55,559
Speaker 2: for someone else. He caught made calls to several companies

1787
01:40:55,640 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 2: I regularly receive work from to get me fired by

1788
01:40:58,320 --> 01:41:00,600
Speaker 2: threatening to never work with them. He said, I was

1789
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 2: blacklisted with the assistance of a woman who gained my

1790
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,480
Speaker 2: trust in my heart over the past year, he steamrolled

1791
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,280
Speaker 2: my career. The woman actively made her mission to destroy

1792
01:41:08,360 --> 01:41:10,760
Speaker 2: my friendships, and she did because by the time they

1793
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 2: realized she was an unreliable source, the damage had already

1794
01:41:14,000 --> 01:41:16,200
Speaker 2: been done. To be fair, and break ups like this

1795
01:41:16,280 --> 01:41:18,400
Speaker 2: when some friends will just naturally gravitate towards the person

1796
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,280
Speaker 2: who has more power and ability to employ them, especially

1797
01:41:21,360 --> 01:41:25,439
Speaker 2: in the business I'm in. Despite whatever history exists, Still

1798
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:28,080
Speaker 2: there's so much more to that woman's story, including six

1799
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 2: other women who have reputation and careers she's attempted to sabotage.

1800
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,080
Speaker 2: But I don't want to digress too far from my point,

1801
01:41:33,120 --> 01:41:37,960
Speaker 2: which is abusive relationships, not friendships. This time in my

1802
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 2: life was agony, and she talked, so she almost killed

1803
01:41:40,960 --> 01:41:45,360
Speaker 2: herself and she didn't end up going through with that obviously,

1804
01:41:45,479 --> 01:41:47,840
Speaker 2: and then she got therapy and all this other stuff,

1805
01:41:49,880 --> 01:41:52,200
Speaker 2: so she said, I'll leave you with this. I lost

1806
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 2: my period for a year because of anorexia. Somehow I

1807
01:41:56,200 --> 01:42:01,720
Speaker 2: got pregnant topically. I was told I'd have to have

1808
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 2: surgery immediately because ec topic or ectpic pregnancies are very

1809
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 2: dangerous and can often be fatal. When I found out,

1810
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,920
Speaker 2: I collapsed on the floor, terrified he would be furious

1811
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 2: with me. Between sides, I told him over the phone,

1812
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 2: please don't be mad at don't worry. I have to

1813
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,000
Speaker 2: have surgery to have it removed, or it could kill

1814
01:42:18,080 --> 01:42:20,680
Speaker 2: me at any time. My fear of his anger at

1815
01:42:20,680 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 2: me getting pregnant was literally greater than my fear of death.

1816
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:24,800
Speaker 2: Let me add in here, I'll never forget the night

1817
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:26,599
Speaker 2: he slept in the cottage foot of my hospital bed

1818
01:42:26,640 --> 01:42:29,280
Speaker 2: after my surgery. It made me believe that, deep down

1819
01:42:29,320 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 2: the side of him, maybe there was a man who

1820
01:42:31,640 --> 01:42:33,400
Speaker 2: loved me. Then, after my recovery, here and my mother

1821
01:42:33,400 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 2: would greeted by the doctor. The surgery went well. Should

1822
01:42:35,479 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 2: be fondes at the doctor, Thank god, said my mother.

1823
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:39,679
Speaker 2: That's great. When don't you think I can have sex

1824
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:42,519
Speaker 2: with her again? Said my ex. It was his first question,

1825
01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:47,439
Speaker 2: and my mother never forgot. While we were together, he

1826
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:49,760
Speaker 2: was repeatedly shared with me that he was terrified I

1827
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 2: would talk publicly about how he treated me. But I'm

1828
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 2: done protecting him. It dispends my own mental health talk

1829
01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 2: about He talked about me publicly, incorrectly, speculating loudly and

1830
01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,680
Speaker 2: regular and regularly that I was sleeping around on him

1831
01:43:01,680 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 2: on multiple occasions, once in front of an audience of

1832
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 2: thousands at a convention. It got so bad I ended

1833
01:43:06,760 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 2: up having to ask my lawyer to write him a

1834
01:43:09,560 --> 01:43:17,040
Speaker 2: letter to write his lawyer letter. Meanwhile, Meanwhile, because people

1835
01:43:17,080 --> 01:43:19,080
Speaker 2: knew y'all were attached together, so it's not like you

1836
01:43:19,120 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 2: were anonymously talking about somebody. Meanwhile, publicly, I continually tried

1837
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 2: to go high when he went low. Also, at the time,

1838
01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:27,920
Speaker 2: I knew it was unlikely people would choose to believe

1839
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 2: me over a cheery sound and famous guy. All it

1840
01:43:30,160 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 2: would do to properly come forward was hurt me. And

1841
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 2: guess what it would probably hurt me now too. Despite

1842
01:43:35,880 --> 01:43:38,080
Speaker 2: the me Too movement, we come a long way, but

1843
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:39,200
Speaker 2: we still have a ways to go.

1844
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:40,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

1845
01:43:40,280 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 2: You know, perhaps this post could be construed as me

1846
01:43:42,600 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 2: going low when I should be going high, But I

1847
01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 2: like to think Michelle Obama will support me in this

1848
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,040
Speaker 2: because I'm not alone. This type of relationship is so

1849
01:43:49,080 --> 01:43:51,920
Speaker 2: common and so easy to slip into normalizing behavior. Happened

1850
01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 2: incredibly quickly, and one can lose track of what is

1851
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 2: acceptable treatment. And that's the big question is it isn't

1852
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,439
Speaker 2: it if this person treated you so badly? What did

1853
01:43:59,479 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 2: you how did you stay? Your guesses will probably include

1854
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:06,160
Speaker 2: it wasn't that bad. Memories can warp. He was famous,

1855
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,519
Speaker 2: she enjoyed the lifestyle. For the record, I usually insisted

1856
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:12,040
Speaker 2: on paying for dinner, thank you very much. Yeah, she

1857
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,160
Speaker 2: should have took that check from that job and let

1858
01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 2: that rich motherfucker pay for dinner. Fuck that. Three. She

1859
01:44:17,439 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 2: was dumb and or weak and didn't have the strength

1860
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 2: to stand up to him, especially if you wasn't even

1861
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:24,799
Speaker 2: eating much, because it's a whole food thing, like, nigga,

1862
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna pay for this motherfucking bread or whatever. Fuck

1863
01:44:27,320 --> 01:44:30,840
Speaker 2: I'm eating tonight, I know that much. Oh starfishing me

1864
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 2: ass nigga right? Uh? At any rate, she just believed

1865
01:44:36,000 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 2: that he would change. That's uh, That's basically.

1866
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:42,080
Speaker 1: Why, And that is a trick. I've talked to a

1867
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:45,400
Speaker 1: lot of women who have been in abusive relationships, and

1868
01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 1: relationships have different.

1869
01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 2: Levels of abuse.

1870
01:44:48,160 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 1: And you know, for some people to start off like

1871
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,080
Speaker 1: this and then eventually it gets physical, and it'll be

1872
01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,280
Speaker 1: I never hurt you again. I never hit you again.

1873
01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:57,720
Speaker 1: I never punched you again. And and these things were

1874
01:44:57,720 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 1: the constantly apologies, constantly big gilt. It was constantly going

1875
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,000
Speaker 1: overboard to try to get you to stay.

1876
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:08,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, the other thing that's interesting, She ends basically like,

1877
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 2: hey man, a sincere heartfeld apology could have made my

1878
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:14,280
Speaker 2: last four years of hell a lot easier. The person

1879
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 2: I used to date would try to suit try to

1880
01:45:16,200 --> 01:45:20,400
Speaker 2: suit me the pride. I would not recommend it. Uh,

1881
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 2: do the Pride, I would not recommend it. I have

1882
01:45:22,280 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 2: audio video that will support improved many of the things

1883
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,960
Speaker 2: I've stayed in this post. I've chosen not to include

1884
01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 2: it for your sake, in the hopes that the person

1885
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:35,240
Speaker 2: you become will do the right thing. So he issued

1886
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:40,920
Speaker 2: a response, right, and his response was essentially, I ain't

1887
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:50,800
Speaker 2: do none of that shit. Now. What's interesting in his uh?

1888
01:45:50,840 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 2: In his response, uh, he essentially says like, yeah, we

1889
01:45:58,479 --> 01:46:04,360
Speaker 2: would yell and fight something, but you know we wouldn't actually, uh,

1890
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 2: you know, I didn't do none of that shit you

1891
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:11,479
Speaker 2: accused me of you know, which sounds like he might

1892
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:13,600
Speaker 2: be setting the world up for if she does have

1893
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,559
Speaker 2: video of him yelling at her, and shit, he'll be like, see,

1894
01:46:16,600 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 2: I told y'all sometimes couples fight, Like what's so bad

1895
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:24,000
Speaker 2: about me yelling at this woman? And and all this

1896
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:26,280
Speaker 2: stuff that she's claiming is abuse. I mean that could

1897
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 2: just be two people arguing, which you know, I guess

1898
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:40,000
Speaker 2: is that's a stretch to me. He said, these are

1899
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 2: very serious allegations, not to be taken lightly, which is

1900
01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 2: why I've taken the day to consider how to respond.

1901
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:46,720
Speaker 2: I was heartbroken to read Chloe's post. Our three year

1902
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:53,080
Speaker 2: relationship was not perfect. We were ultimately an ad popped up. Okay,

1903
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 2: we were ultimately not a good match and argued and

1904
01:46:58,240 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 2: even shouted at each other. But I loved her my

1905
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 2: best to uplift and support her as a partner and companion. Anyway,

1906
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,760
Speaker 2: at no time that I sexually saw her. He basically said,

1907
01:47:07,760 --> 01:47:11,920
Speaker 2: he was that he was blindsided about all this. We

1908
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 2: were living together, I found out that Chloe had cheated

1909
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:17,639
Speaker 2: on me, and I ended the relationship. Now see that, right,

1910
01:47:17,680 --> 01:47:19,960
Speaker 2: there is a weird thing to put in the article,

1911
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 2: like like, let's say, I'm accused of all this shit

1912
01:47:27,680 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 2: that she's saying happened. It's only because you've been going

1913
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:34,800
Speaker 2: around for years telling the world this story that she

1914
01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:37,760
Speaker 2: cheated on you, and everyone should feel sorry for you,

1915
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 2: and so if you use your platform to bash her,

1916
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:42,040
Speaker 2: we should all just laugh along with you and say

1917
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:48,479
Speaker 2: it's okay. Justlight the huge age difference and power difference

1918
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:50,840
Speaker 2: and the dynamic of her working for you and all

1919
01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,599
Speaker 2: this shit we're supposed to just overlook at as audience

1920
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:58,679
Speaker 2: and laugh at the nice, funny guy. But in this statement,

1921
01:47:58,720 --> 01:48:00,200
Speaker 2: why would you need to even bring that up up?

1922
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:03,479
Speaker 2: It's like you're trying to say she's a bad person.

1923
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:05,880
Speaker 2: She cheated on me, so everything she's saying must be.

1924
01:48:05,800 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 1: A lie, right, And a lot of his fan base

1925
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,680
Speaker 1: them like males, are gonna eat it up.

1926
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 2: Think about people that have had so much cheat on them.

1927
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:17,840
Speaker 2: How often does a person in this situation get caught

1928
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,160
Speaker 2: cheating or whatever the fuck and then go and I

1929
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:23,840
Speaker 2: still want to ruin your life years later? Let me

1930
01:48:23,920 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 2: just make up a random accusation four years after the fact.

1931
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 2: Who the fuck would do that? Anyway? For several weeks

1932
01:48:32,280 --> 01:48:34,559
Speaker 2: after we broke up, she asked to get back together

1933
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:36,280
Speaker 2: with me, and even told me she wanted to have

1934
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 2: kids with me and build a life with me, and

1935
01:48:37,960 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 2: told me I was the one, but I did not

1936
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 2: want to be with someone who was unfaithfully added and

1937
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:45,000
Speaker 2: carefully craft the response. I'm devastating to read she's now

1938
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:47,000
Speaker 2: accusing me of conduct that did not a carolge Blond

1939
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:49,040
Speaker 2: side of our post. And I always wanted the best

1940
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,400
Speaker 2: for her as a husband, a son, and a future father.

1941
01:48:51,439 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 2: I do not condone any type of mistreatment of women.

1942
01:48:53,840 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this much, dog, you better be telling

1943
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:01,920
Speaker 2: the truth because if she said she got evident of videos,

1944
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,519
Speaker 2: that mean text that a lot, whatever conversations I had,

1945
01:49:06,240 --> 01:49:09,479
Speaker 2: you better not be fucking lying, bro. I know that much.

1946
01:49:10,600 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously this is an accusation. We don't know

1947
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 2: what's what right now. She claims to have more proof,

1948
01:49:17,680 --> 01:49:21,599
Speaker 2: more evidence, I mean yeah, And other.

1949
01:49:21,479 --> 01:49:24,200
Speaker 1: People have came out, like within the Nerdous company itself,

1950
01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 1: they've came out publicly.

1951
01:49:25,479 --> 01:49:28,360
Speaker 2: So you know, right.

1952
01:49:31,240 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 1: Right now now, that was about racist stuff. What didn

1953
01:49:35,080 --> 01:49:37,160
Speaker 1: you said? Some people come out publicly about.

1954
01:49:37,040 --> 01:49:39,840
Speaker 2: No not no, I have that too, and I'm gonna

1955
01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 2: bring it out. Just didn't so that was enough, you

1956
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,960
Speaker 2: know one way, right, This is why I went, Yeah,

1957
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 2: something's up. Nerdous issue the statement that it deleted him

1958
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:59,080
Speaker 2: from their founders on the website. He had not had

1959
01:49:59,160 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 2: dealings with them, according to them, and managerial rows or

1960
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 2: anything for two years. His contract expired at the end

1961
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 2: of December last year, and they did not renew it.

1962
01:50:08,080 --> 01:50:13,719
Speaker 2: It's fucking June and he's Chris fucking Hardwick. You renew

1963
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:16,559
Speaker 2: that contract if you think everything's on the up and up,

1964
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:19,120
Speaker 2: you're happy if he doesn't come to you and go,

1965
01:50:19,360 --> 01:50:20,759
Speaker 2: I actually want way more money.

1966
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:23,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. They heard rumors to rumbling something.

1967
01:50:24,680 --> 01:50:28,840
Speaker 2: Something right, like something was up and its specifically in

1968
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,920
Speaker 2: the me too. Time you go, let's not renew his contract.

1969
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:33,760
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it. Somebody was saying that might

1970
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 1: be why they counsel at midnight.

1971
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:38,759
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know. I don't know, because at midnight

1972
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:43,720
Speaker 2: had great ratings right for it just to stop. So

1973
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just know something stinks about all

1974
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:51,479
Speaker 2: this shit. Chris Harred had no operational involvement with Nerders

1975
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 2: for the two years preceding the exploration of his contract

1976
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:56,000
Speaker 2: December twenty fifth, seventeen. He no longer had a z

1977
01:50:56,000 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 2: any affiliation with Legendary Digital Networks. The company has removed

1978
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:02,400
Speaker 2: all references to mister Hardwick, even as the original founder

1979
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 2: of Nervous, pending further investigation.

1980
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:07,680
Speaker 1: They knew something and they wanted to separate themselves, and

1981
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:09,800
Speaker 1: they was like, this brand is bigger than you. Now.

1982
01:51:10,720 --> 01:51:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, people have been tweeting about him and they're dealing

1983
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:19,639
Speaker 2: with him, like people that are that have worked with him,

1984
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:23,320
Speaker 2: other men, Oh, you know, people saying like, I'm happy

1985
01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:25,559
Speaker 2: to not have to cover for a boss that's clearly

1986
01:51:25,640 --> 01:51:29,640
Speaker 2: a racist. You know, hey, this dude has been the

1987
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:32,840
Speaker 2: problem with toxic men in our industry for a while,

1988
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:39,920
Speaker 2: and it's good that he's gone. Like, yeah, nigga, it's not.

1989
01:51:42,000 --> 01:51:46,519
Speaker 2: This does not seem to be the surprise to a

1990
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:48,720
Speaker 2: lot of people that knew him or worked with him

1991
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 2: that you would think it would be.

1992
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:53,200
Speaker 1: Uh.

1993
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:56,240
Speaker 2: Now. Of course, it hasn't stopped people from defending him.

1994
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,799
Speaker 2: The New York Post put out the takedown of Chris Harwick.

1995
01:51:59,840 --> 01:52:02,360
Speaker 2: His shows me to us, gone too far, as they

1996
01:52:02,400 --> 01:52:08,679
Speaker 2: always do it the guys they like, right, Keep in mind,

1997
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:11,080
Speaker 2: he's only had this show taken off. They didn't fire

1998
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:13,600
Speaker 2: him or say the show won't come back. They're gonna investigate,

1999
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:16,280
Speaker 2: which I don't understand how that means me too's gone

2000
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:18,760
Speaker 2: too far? The fuck is the corporate responsibility of a

2001
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:20,400
Speaker 2: motherfucker that finds this out?

2002
01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:23,880
Speaker 1: Is AMC supposed to just keep acting like nothing happened?

2003
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 1: Are you fucking crazy?

2004
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:28,639
Speaker 2: Because see this is the cash twenty two with these

2005
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:32,479
Speaker 2: motherfuckers that write these editorials. So we don't do nothing.

2006
01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:35,160
Speaker 2: We stand by our man. We decide as a company. Hey,

2007
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 2: you know what, dog, Chris Hardwick's alright with us. He's

2008
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:41,799
Speaker 2: never done anything at this job. Let's just let him work,

2009
01:52:42,439 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 2: then y'all go. When he does something more harbored, some

2010
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 2: evidence gets revealed, Well, why didn't AMC do anything sooner

2011
01:52:50,760 --> 01:52:52,479
Speaker 2: they knew he was accused? Why did they even look

2012
01:52:52,520 --> 01:52:57,719
Speaker 2: into it? That's what happens. You know what I'm saying,

2013
01:52:57,800 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 2: like I fucked up, is that these mother fuckers are

2014
01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:03,639
Speaker 2: gonna judge you either way. It's you're overreacting. Okay, well,

2015
01:53:03,720 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 2: we're not gonna do anything. You let this motherfucker stay

2016
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:09,559
Speaker 2: on the air for three more years knowing he had

2017
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:12,080
Speaker 2: this dirt on him. Shame on you. All you care

2018
01:53:12,080 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 2: about is money?

2019
01:53:14,439 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 1: You know it's it's it's some real shaky shit out

2020
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 1: there with the way people talk about these things, right

2021
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,920
Speaker 1: and me and you're talking before, and I will say

2022
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:26,840
Speaker 1: this again. Companies have been watching companies fuck shit like

2023
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 1: this up, and they know certain sit you just don't

2024
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 1: do like like they know companies that got more media savvy,

2025
01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:37,400
Speaker 1: because I think social media threw a lot of companies

2026
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 1: for a loop because a lot of companies there are

2027
01:53:40,160 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 1: big moving ships and they're slow to change, right, So

2028
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,720
Speaker 1: they didn't understand how something happened on social media can

2029
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:52,160
Speaker 1: instantly affect your stocks, instantly affect your bonds, instantly affect

2030
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 1: fuck your money up if you don't do certain things right.

2031
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 1: It ain't like a rooffull. It's like an instant a

2032
01:53:58,560 --> 01:54:03,960
Speaker 1: stop or shift. And most large companies don't adjust like that.

2033
01:54:04,040 --> 01:54:07,600
Speaker 1: They're slow to change. So I think that particularly with

2034
01:54:07,680 --> 01:54:09,639
Speaker 1: the nerdst they was like, no, no, no, no no

2035
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 1: no no. Uh, we're gonna jump ahead of the ship

2036
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:14,920
Speaker 1: and we don't want to have to deal with it

2037
01:54:14,920 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 1: because the thing is anybody that stays associated with him

2038
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:21,680
Speaker 1: are gonna have to deal with questions about him constantly,

2039
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:24,639
Speaker 1: and no company wants to deal with somebody that's actually

2040
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 1: bigger than your brand. Every time you do an interview,

2041
01:54:27,360 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 1: every time he comes up, he's gonna be asked about it.

2042
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna be asked about it. Do you you know

2043
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be quick? Do you condone this? How do

2044
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 1: you feel about this? They're gonna start asking your employees.

2045
01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:38,200
Speaker 2: So people don't like, we don't want to deal with this.

2046
01:54:38,280 --> 01:54:40,680
Speaker 1: Let's let's just suspend and sit down. So if you'll

2047
01:54:40,720 --> 01:54:43,680
Speaker 1: ask us, we can go. Well, it's under investigation, it's uninvestigated,

2048
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:47,080
Speaker 1: so and it almost pushes the burden to kind of

2049
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 1: deal with that offer you.

2050
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is kind of interesting because they do

2051
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:56,040
Speaker 2: this shit for this me too shit with a it's

2052
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,960
Speaker 2: too far, it's too much. Obviously, nothing's happened to him

2053
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 2: that isn't gonna try as on the court. He hasn't

2054
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:06,280
Speaker 2: even officially lost his job. The company already hadn't renewed

2055
01:55:06,360 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 2: his contract and shit, so I'm not like he lost

2056
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:13,800
Speaker 2: out on money there. He's been trashing this woman's public

2057
01:55:13,840 --> 01:55:17,520
Speaker 2: reputation for the years. At this point, you never gave

2058
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 2: a fuck about hers when he was out here calling

2059
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 2: her cheater and making jokes and lat roast her. That

2060
01:55:23,440 --> 01:55:26,400
Speaker 2: was just part of the game, right, She just had

2061
01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 2: to live with that people knowing who she was and

2062
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,960
Speaker 2: how he talked about her. That was just what she's

2063
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,640
Speaker 2: supposed to do as a woman. But the second that

2064
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:38,040
Speaker 2: you go will turn about his fair play. Now I

2065
01:55:38,040 --> 01:55:41,320
Speaker 2: want to speak my part. Whoa whoa WHOA yr Russian

2066
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 2: took conclusion with just dah da da dah. Now I've

2067
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:48,040
Speaker 2: been thinking about this. I honestly don't know what power

2068
01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:50,960
Speaker 2: you have as a company when you find out somebody's

2069
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:53,800
Speaker 2: emotionally abusive in a relationship and.

2070
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:56,480
Speaker 1: It didn't happen at your job on your premises.

2071
01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:00,000
Speaker 2: I honestly don't know the rules to that. And that's

2072
01:56:00,160 --> 01:56:02,480
Speaker 2: one of the scary parts quote unquote to a lot

2073
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:06,160
Speaker 2: of people with me to movement is this idea there's

2074
01:56:06,200 --> 01:56:08,800
Speaker 2: some some policies and things that we don't have a

2075
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 2: thing in place for. And now these these are things

2076
01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:15,839
Speaker 2: are that have to be brought up. But here's the problem.

2077
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:21,640
Speaker 2: She worked for his company. That's number one, right, So

2078
01:56:21,720 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 2: now we're talking about employee boss relationship correct and number

2079
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 2: two more importantly, and people have already gone on Twitter

2080
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:32,000
Speaker 2: and said, hey, I was one of these companies that

2081
01:56:32,120 --> 01:56:35,720
Speaker 2: he reached out to. If he black bought her from

2082
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 2: the industry or from jobs, he has to fucking go

2083
01:56:40,040 --> 01:56:44,560
Speaker 2: because that is work. I don't know. I don't I

2084
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 2: don't know this shit about abuse and relationships. I'm not

2085
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:51,240
Speaker 2: I don't know enough of about the legal recourses of

2086
01:56:51,280 --> 01:56:53,840
Speaker 2: a company and all that shit. It's it's easy for

2087
01:56:53,880 --> 01:56:56,600
Speaker 2: us to sit on Twitter and ship and talk about how, oh,

2088
01:56:56,760 --> 01:56:59,000
Speaker 2: just fire him, just do this. I don't fucking know.

2089
01:56:59,080 --> 01:57:00,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you do that, and then I

2090
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 2: would sayden, you get sued the fucking oblivion because you

2091
01:57:03,320 --> 01:57:06,840
Speaker 2: actually can't say we found out you spank your kids,

2092
01:57:06,880 --> 01:57:09,960
Speaker 2: so you lost your job. I don't know how that works.

2093
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:15,720
Speaker 2: And especially with emotional abuse, because when it's something criminal

2094
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 2: like physical abuse domestic violence, there's certain things people can

2095
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 2: do where it's like, yeah, that's not a disagreement, that's

2096
01:57:24,320 --> 01:57:26,640
Speaker 2: not a fight, Like you fucking hit your wife in

2097
01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:30,800
Speaker 2: the eye, you went to jail, you off the job, right,

2098
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:34,000
Speaker 2: something like a person coming out saying he was basically

2099
01:57:34,480 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 2: shitty to me and as far as I'm concerned, sexually

2100
01:57:38,120 --> 01:57:40,880
Speaker 2: assaulted me. He might even have grounds to go in

2101
01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:44,280
Speaker 2: the courtroom and win that case, like, I'm not even

2102
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 2: sure that the legal definition of I mean, courtrooms don't

2103
01:57:49,120 --> 01:57:51,120
Speaker 2: even hold up when it's some jump out the bushes raping,

2104
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 2: so I don't So I don't even know that he

2105
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:55,120
Speaker 2: would go to jail or some shit like, I don't

2106
01:57:55,160 --> 01:57:58,600
Speaker 2: even think it's that type of deal. So I don't

2107
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 2: know what a company necessarily can do for that stuff.

2108
01:58:01,880 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 2: This is the ugly, icky part of these conversations that

2109
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:07,560
Speaker 2: we don't get to have because people are too far

2110
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,280
Speaker 2: jumping on like this guy's I like this guy. I

2111
01:58:10,280 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 2: don't say anything about him or throw him in the trash.

2112
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:14,840
Speaker 2: He's trash to end. But this is a big part

2113
01:58:14,840 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 2: in the middle that a lot of people, a lot

2114
01:58:18,280 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 2: of people probably have experienced this type of abuse, more

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Speaker 2: so than Harvey Weinstein's black like his casting couch right

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01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:31,280
Speaker 2: this shiit like, you work with somebody that's gone through

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01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 2: this shit, you yourself, you've gone through this. Some of

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01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:38,360
Speaker 2: y'all have done this to somebody else. Just pressure them

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Speaker 2: into sex this. I'm gonna get blue balls. I don't

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Speaker 2: care if you just gotta lay there and let me

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Speaker 2: help you. Some of y'all have done this, and that's

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Speaker 2: the reason you'd rather talk about something else than examine, like,

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01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:52,680
Speaker 2: am I rom did I? What do I my apology?

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01:58:52,720 --> 01:58:54,480
Speaker 2: Do I fuck it? Did I fuck up? How do

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01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:57,440
Speaker 2: they feel about this? Was this done to me? Was

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01:58:57,480 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 2: that abuse? Was our sexual assault at work? You know,

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01:59:01,880 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 2: because we don't talk about consent and shit till it's

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01:59:04,680 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 2: till after you fuck up, then we talk about concent right.

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01:59:07,560 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of people that maybe you have

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01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:11,640
Speaker 2: children you should be talking to about this now come on,

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01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 2: you know, like there's a lot of opportunity here to learn.

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01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:18,560
Speaker 2: But what's gonna happen is it's gonna become about is

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01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 2: Chris Hardwick good or bad? Is this woman telling the

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01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:21,760
Speaker 2: truth or not?

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Speaker 1: Is uh?

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01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 2: Is this uh? Should he lose his job? Are we

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01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:28,440
Speaker 2: going too far? Me too?

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Speaker 1: Ain't got nobody wrong yet? And all these allegations get vetted.

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Speaker 2: When they report rumors and in the window these papers

2140
01:59:38,720 --> 01:59:40,600
Speaker 2: go and research and shit and back it up.

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01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 1: We saw what happened with George Taka. He was accused

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Speaker 1: of something we was just reading last week.

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Speaker 2: There was like actually that we went and looked into

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01:59:47,720 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 2: that and it's not what that dude said. These like

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01:59:52,600 --> 01:59:55,440
Speaker 2: somebody will look into this and she has corroborating evidence.

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01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 2: And like I said, people on I've seen tweets of

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01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:03,040
Speaker 2: people that say, look, this shit happened. He told us

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Speaker 2: not to let her work with us, and we you know,

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Speaker 2: and we have a list of people that we don't

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Speaker 2: allow to work with us, and she was just another

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Speaker 2: name on this long list. We don't know why people

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02:00:13,120 --> 02:00:15,840
Speaker 2: go on that list. We just are told don't work

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02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 2: with so and so and so and so and so

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02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:21,200
Speaker 2: we stopped working with him, But I coroborate did that happen.

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02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:24,480
Speaker 2: So it's only gonna take a few of those people,

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02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:27,560
Speaker 2: and if they can prove that this niggas blackballing her,

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02:00:27,600 --> 02:00:30,480
Speaker 2: that's a very easy thing to prove. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how you can ever bring him back or work with

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02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:35,280
Speaker 2: him again, right, because now you done take your personal

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02:00:35,320 --> 02:00:38,760
Speaker 2: relationship in data into a professional place, and who knows

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Speaker 2: what other kind of shit you might be doing at

2162
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:44,720
Speaker 2: the job. We can get somebody else to host that show,

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02:00:45,080 --> 02:00:47,840
Speaker 2: she can and keep it pushing. That won't get us

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02:00:48,080 --> 02:00:52,520
Speaker 2: sued or in court or some shit. Right, So anyway,

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Speaker 2: let's go ahead and get into soar ratchiness because this

2166
02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:00,480
Speaker 2: has gone way too long and it was so serious.

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02:01:01,280 --> 02:01:04,440
Speaker 2: But I don't apologize. I personally need to get these

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Speaker 2: things out to day because I don't want to talk

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Speaker 2: about on social media.

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Speaker 1: NIP, don't want to go down that. Don't have them conversations.

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Speaker 2: Yep so and will I have fun tomorrow with Queen

2172
02:01:13,960 --> 02:01:18,800
Speaker 2: and Jay for sure? To you, I can't wait to

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Speaker 2: talk to that lady and Jay.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You guys will get that if y'all listen to their show.

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02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:28,160
Speaker 2: If not, you won't get it at all. That's fine.

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Speaker 2: Uh story rating this time? Mm hmm. I wonder if

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Speaker 2: Chris Hardwick feels singled out Fday Melbourne, Florida, Florida man

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Speaker 2: is in jail at the law authority say he threw

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Speaker 2: a samurai saw the deputies responding to a domestic disturbance call.

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02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:11,640
Speaker 2: Oh Barar County Sheriff's deputies were responding to a nine

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Speaker 2: one call Wednesday from a woman who set herself was

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Speaker 2: straightening her with a pair of swords, Florida to Tell

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Speaker 2: Florida Today reports that when deputies arrived, they found twenty

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Speaker 2: four year old Jeffrey Crane holding the samurai swords that

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Speaker 2: he refused to put them down. Investigators say Crane then

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Speaker 2: threw one of the swords that the deputy is a

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Speaker 2: stun gun was used a subdued Crane who had blood

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Speaker 2: alcohol content a point three to six. Shit Ooo, he

2190
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Speaker 2: was licked. Twenty eight is a legal limit, so he

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Speaker 2: was like four times a legal limit or some shit

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Speaker 2: that was a little over there. I don't know. That's

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Speaker 2: high tolerance, right, Damn this nigga li game. Crane faces

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Speaker 2: several charges, including domestic abuse and aggravated assault on law

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02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:57,320
Speaker 2: enforce in office. He was being He's still being held

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Speaker 2: in Brother County jail on Saturday. Uh didn't say he

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Speaker 2: has a lawyer. Information from Florida today is where they

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Speaker 2: got it from. So Florida and swords who would have known? Guys?

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Sorry, talk so much today, Karen.

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Speaker 1: Oh, sometimes you got to just get some things off

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Speaker 1: your chest, because sometimes it be me talking.

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Speaker 2: I hear you. Thank you for being here and supporting me,

2203
02:03:24,040 --> 02:03:26,920
Speaker 2: because love is everything. Is all right, We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you all tomorrow till then. I love you.

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Speaker 1: I love you.

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Speaker 2: Wh