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Speaker 1: telephone number. You could also interact with us on Twitter

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Speaker 1: hashtag Giants Chat. Is the Giants still in the midst

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Speaker 1: Ani will take your phone calls on a variety of subjects.

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Speaker 1: But NFL dot com posted an interesting laundry list of

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Speaker 1: questions a hundred to be exact, because two days ago, Paul,

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Speaker 1: it was exactly a hundred days till the start of

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Speaker 1: the NFL regular season to get everybody excited the game

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Speaker 1: between the Packers and the Bears. This is also the

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Speaker 1: one hundredth anniversary of the National Football League, so we

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Speaker 1: thought we'd go through some of the questions out of

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Speaker 1: those one hundred that are related to the NFC East,

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Speaker 1: including the New York Giants. Judy Battista did a really

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Speaker 1: nice job putting together exactly one hundred questions, and there's

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Speaker 1: a handful regarding the NFC East, So we figured we'd

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Speaker 1: use that as a talking point, and we want to

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Speaker 1: hear from you your responses to some of these questions.

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Speaker 1: So let's start with a few that are related to

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Speaker 1: the Giants, Paul, and then we'll branch out a bit

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Speaker 1: with respect to the Cowboys, the Eagles, and the Redskins.

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Speaker 1: And in the top five because she did order them accordingly,

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Speaker 1: she's got two questions regarding the New York Giants. No surprise,

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Speaker 1: it revolves around the quarterback situation. Question number three is

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Speaker 1: will we see Daniel Jones play for the Giants at

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Speaker 1: all this season? And number four is tied in exactly

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Speaker 1: to that, is this the last season we'll see Eli

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Speaker 1: Manning play for the Giants, which obviously has been a

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Speaker 1: big talking point ever since the Giants took Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: And I think if you want to speculate and you

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Speaker 1: want to go down the road of will we see

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I think the obvious way to see it,

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is in a lopsided affair for the Giants,

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Speaker 1: whether it be early, middle, late in the season, lopsided

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Speaker 1: affair like the Redskins game when Kyle o Letta got

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Speaker 1: barring that Paul It to me would take the Giants

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Speaker 1: mathematically being aliminated from contention with a few games to

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Speaker 1: go to realistically give Daniel Jones a shot, or the

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Speaker 1: Giants locking up a playoff spot like the Chiefs did.

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Speaker 1: Remember in two thousand seventeen when Patrick Mahomes got the

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Speaker 1: start in week seventeen and At Smith was rested, I

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Speaker 1: totally concur and therefore my answer will be yes. I

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Speaker 1: do think we will see Jones take some snaps at

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Speaker 1: those scenarios is plausible. Okay, Now, a totally different question,

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Speaker 1: which you did not ask me. Will Daniel Jones start

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Speaker 1: a game during the two thousand nineteen season if you not.

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Speaker 1: If you proposed that one to me, my answer is

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Speaker 1: going to be no, and my money would be banking

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Speaker 1: Moron playing as opposed to starting. So I would be

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Speaker 1: that's better for the Giants if it turns out that

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Speaker 1: way too, well, Listen, if Eli Manning is starting every game,

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Speaker 1: for sure. Well, and here's another reason to have confidence

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Speaker 1: in that take. When was the last time Paul and

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Speaker 1: I bring up the fact that nobody's went back to

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Speaker 1: a Roman the early two thousands. You know, that's my

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Speaker 1: When was the last time that somebody truthfully ran away

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Speaker 1: you evaluate that, I'd say there's a good chance, regardless

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Speaker 1: think that's very probable. So therefore, the Giants are going

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Speaker 1: you need to get done this offseason. It's a no brainer.

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, that's number one. Number two. Zekiel Elliott to me,

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Speaker 1: But the Cowboys have the fifth year option. That's more

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Speaker 1: So that's more of a reason why if I'm Dallas,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even thinking about Zeke. I'm thinking about getting

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Speaker 1: Now here's where I disagree with you slightly. With respect

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Speaker 1: Tredit Paul. He helped the resurrect that offense in the

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Speaker 1: My question is can he sustain it? And that not

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Speaker 1: but we're going through the top one questions at NFL

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Speaker 1: We are obviously focusing on the NFC East related questions,

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys. The next one on the list is number twelve,

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Speaker 1: Sticking with the QB theme, Paul who will be the

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Speaker 1: Scott Hi, guys, how you're doing today? Uh N? The

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Speaker 1: receptions Alvin Kamara, who he also brought up from the Saints.

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Speaker 1: Kimara had eighty one receptions and each of his first

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Speaker 1: two years with the Saints. But remember they're also more

432
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Speaker 1: of a one two punch because they have mark Ingram.

433
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Speaker 1: With McCaffrey and Barkley, I think it's a fairer comparison

434
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Speaker 1: because you really have one true back there. And with

435
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Speaker 1: respect to Chimera, he had a hundred targets and a

436
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Speaker 1: hundred five targets respectively. His carries though, once again, because

437
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Speaker 1: you have mark Ingram one twenty and one nine four

438
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Speaker 1: in each of his first two years respectively. So those

439
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: are some other numbers as a means of comparison, but

440
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Speaker 1: McCaffrey is the best comparison in my mind. Right. I

441
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: was just concerned because I thought that was one of

442
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Speaker 1: the primary reasons they Brow and rod Smith to take

443
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Speaker 1: some of the burden off along with Gallman and create

444
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Speaker 1: more of sort of what they had back in OH

445
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Speaker 1: seven with mad retro and uh names escapes me right now,

446
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking about, Jacobs, Yeah, Brandon Jacobs,

447
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 1: Derek right, so to have more of variety in their

448
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Speaker 1: running type because they both of you know that if

449
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Speaker 1: you have a good running attack, it takes so much

450
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Speaker 1: pressure off the course. Sure, sure, I wonder Honestly, I

451
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Speaker 1: don't think that's why Rod Smith is here. I mean, look,

452
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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of debate as to why

453
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Speaker 1: he is here. To be perfectly frank with you, but

454
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Speaker 1: if Penny winds up being the fullback, then I I'm

455
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Speaker 1: still of the opinion that Goldman and Perkins are two

456
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Speaker 1: and three in the half back room and and Rod

457
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Speaker 1: Smith does not have a place on this team. But

458
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Speaker 1: but again it depends on what what is it that

459
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Speaker 1: they're actually expecting him to do. That they bring him

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Speaker 1: here to compete as a fullback, that they bring him

461
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Speaker 1: here to compete as a short yardage goal line back,

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Speaker 1: that they bring him here to provide a change of

463
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Speaker 1: pace to to what what the Giants do with their

464
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Speaker 1: other half backs. I'm not even sure what the mission is,

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Speaker 1: why he was brought in. To be perfectly frank with you,

466
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Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna pull any punches. I don't know,

467
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Speaker 1: and you know Robert Martin scenarios. Okay, but look at

468
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Speaker 1: the guy's resume. I mean, outside of a couple of

469
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Speaker 1: games here in area, over four years in the NFL,

470
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Speaker 1: what has he done? And Barkley also was in on

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Speaker 1: some of those goal lines situations more often than I

472
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Speaker 1: So I'm not once again gonna fall for what we

473
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Speaker 1: talked about last year's Scott where you know, we were speculating,

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Speaker 1: is Barkley gonna be the goal lineback and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: utilize somebody else because Barkley turned out to be the

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Speaker 1: goal line back. So I don't think Rod Smith, I'm

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Speaker 1: with Paul. I don't think he was brought in because

478
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Speaker 1: they were saying, all right, well, you know we're gonna

479
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Speaker 1: divvy up the carries outside of Barkley. This guy is

480
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Speaker 1: gonna be this guy, this gun, this guy is gonna

481
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Speaker 1: be that guy. I think Smith is competition to Wayne Goldman,

482
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Speaker 1: to Elijah Penny at fullback and Paul Perkins, and they

483
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Speaker 1: want to see these guys push each other to determine

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Speaker 1: who's worthy of keeping, whether it be three backs or

485
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Speaker 1: four backs. You saw more Cowboys stuff than I did.

486
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Speaker 1: Last year. Rod Smith four carries for a hundred and

487
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Speaker 1: twenty seven yards and one touchdown, the average two point

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Speaker 1: nine yards of carry. He had a step back, Am

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Speaker 1: I supposed to be excited about that? Look at what

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Speaker 1: did he do the previous year. The previous year, though,

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Speaker 1: his numbers were rushes, four touchdowns, four point two yards

492
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Speaker 1: of carry. He took a note last year, but four

493
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Speaker 1: two is not exciting. It's good, but it's not exciting. Well,

494
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Speaker 1: and I think usage helped is two thousand seventeen numbers.

495
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Speaker 1: But you're right he wasn't necessarily. That's what I'm saying

496
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Speaker 1: is I think Perkins can do four yards of carry.

497
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Speaker 1: He did it as a rookie. Goldman can get me

498
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Speaker 1: four yards of carry. You know, I don't know that

499
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Speaker 1: I needed to go out and get another guy to

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Speaker 1: do that well. And that's why I think rod Smith

501
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: is just for competition. Anyways. Yeah, right, Well, my one

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Speaker 1: last question, I want to take it off the year.

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Speaker 1: One of the statistics that I think is really important

504
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Speaker 1: as third down conversions and the Giants last year they

505
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Speaker 1: were converting third downs at a rate of thirty six

506
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Speaker 1: point nine percent. Opposition was at forty two point to

507
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Speaker 1: two percent in either of your opinions, where those numbers

508
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Speaker 1: have to jump to an order for the Giants really

509
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Speaker 1: to be successful. I don't know where they rank in

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Speaker 1: the league, but thirty six point nine on third down

511
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: conversions to me doesn't sound like it's that great. But again,

512
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Speaker 1: it may be all relative, but I was just curious

513
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Speaker 1: your opinions. Thanks guy, appreciate the phone call. Scott, thanks

514
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Speaker 1: so much for way. And well, I mean I have

515
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Speaker 1: the numbers in front of me because I chart every

516
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 1: single third down. They were twenty five in the NFL.

517
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Speaker 1: Last year they were sixty nine. So you heard Scott

518
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Speaker 1: throughout the thirty six percent number. And to give you

519
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Speaker 1: a ballpark figure of where you want to be that now, well,

520
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to look up where like

521
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Speaker 1: the top team was ranked, off the top of my head,

522
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Speaker 1: I would say you want to be in the forties

523
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Speaker 1: at minimum, there's no respectable team on third down, which

524
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Speaker 1: means you know you want to have at least a

525
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Speaker 1: forty one percent conversion rate. I think that's certainly what

526
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Speaker 1: you want to shoot for because if you have that,

527
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Speaker 1: that's going to put you in the top half of

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Speaker 1: the league. So that to me has to be the

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Speaker 1: starting point. Four six eight ten, Dallas was tenth in

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Speaker 1: the NFL with a forty one point four third down

531
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Speaker 1: conversion rate. The common theory as you always want to

532
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Speaker 1: be over how much more do you have to go? Well,

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Speaker 1: let's see what was the number one ran in the

534
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Speaker 1: NFL fourteen sixteen. Hold on sixteen sixteen fifteen teams were

535
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Speaker 1: at forty year above, which is smack in the middle.

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Speaker 1: Well that's what you want to be, in the top

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Speaker 1: f of the league. Yeah, that's it, because remember it's

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Speaker 1: thirty two teams, so sixteen is really the middle. But

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Speaker 1: fIF fifteen teams were but were forty were above and

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Speaker 1: forty eight percent for the Colts was number one. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So if you're forty one forty two and forty eight

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Speaker 1: is the top number, then I would say you're certainly

543
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Speaker 1: showing some drastic improvement. Now, just to put things at perspective,

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Speaker 1: I've got Pittsburgh was eighth at forty four, and then

545
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Speaker 1: ninth was Carolina. They went down to under forty two,

546
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Speaker 1: So there was a bit of a gap there between

547
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and Carolina. So the top eight kind of differentiated

548
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: themselves from the rest of the pack and up well.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, it shouldn't surprise anybody that the

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Speaker 1: Colts are number one because you had a good offensive line,

551
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: a good running game, Andrew Luck returned, no surprise, all

552
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: three of those factors a big reason why they were

553
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Speaker 1: so impactful in terms of the rookie class, the offensive line,

554
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: but also they made the playoffs because they were very

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Speaker 1: effective in keeping their offense on the field. As we

556
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: always say, or I always say, many layers to the onion.

557
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: It's a spider web, it's a it's a table of dominoes. Well,

558
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: why do you think that Giant's third down percentage rate

559
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 1: was so low? Partly because they had so many third

560
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: and laws? Okay, so so you know how do you

561
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: deal with that? Well, you don't just try to convert

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Speaker 1: more throw downs. That would be super but you want

563
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 1: to get better third down situations. That's really the best

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00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 1: way to do it. Well, I mean, listen, I have

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Speaker 1: the third down conversion rate for every single game last

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Speaker 1: season in front of me, and just to put things

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Speaker 1: in perspective, for what you're talking about. Let's see you

568
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: had in Week eight against the Redskins, they had eight

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Speaker 1: downs of the a fourteen for ten yards or more

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Speaker 1: and they were two or fourteen on third down in

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Speaker 1: that game. Let's look at another bad one Week five

572
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: at the Panthers. They were over for seven on third

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Speaker 1: down in that game. Of their seven third downs, five

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00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: were for eight yards or more. Looking through the list,

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Speaker 1: Week thirteen against the Bears, they were six of seventeen

576
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Speaker 1: on third down. Now, the percentage didn't work out terribly.

577
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: Six of the seventeen downs were for eight yards or more.

578
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: But of those six they had a third and sixteen

579
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: a third and eighteen, a third and twenty three and

580
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: that was a consistent trend. The following week they had

581
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Speaker 1: three third downs for sixteen yards, seventeen yards, eighteen yards.

582
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: Just a bad habit. You can't win consistent games. Now.

583
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Speaker 1: I also, I've got the two thousand seventeen charts in

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Speaker 1: front of me, Paul, just to use that as a comparison.

585
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 1: Two thousand seventeen Giants third down efficiency was even worse

586
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Speaker 1: than it wasn't two thousand eighteen. They were thirtieth in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. They were thirty three percent in two thousand seventeen,

588
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: so they did improve slightly from two thousand seventeen to

589
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. But another one of those situations where

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00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: every single week you're talking about, on average, you'd have

591
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: anywhere from five to seven third downs of ten yards

592
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: or more. As I looked through my list, well, it's

593
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Speaker 1: just it's hard to win games consistently with those numbers.

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00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: For the season. The Giants passed the ball. Okay, is

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Speaker 1: this eighteen or seventeen? This is two eighteen, This is

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Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. When faced with a third and ten

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00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: or greater, the Giants through because they did have a

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Speaker 1: couple of runs in there. Actually they had seven runs

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00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: in such a situation. They had sixty one past plays

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Speaker 1: when it was third and ten or more. They had

601
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Speaker 1: twenty past plays when it was third and sixteen or more.

602
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: That's over one a game. Yeah, that's horrific. And you

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00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: become predictable as an offense. Really Yeah. Well, I mean no,

604
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: I know, I'm standing the obvious, but sometimes it needs

605
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: to be re emphasized. I mean, you know, so so

606
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: you know, it all starts up front. Everybody feeds office,

607
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: It always feeds off of that, all of this other

608
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: stuff just springs like tentacles from the core, which is

609
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: when the trenches. You do that, all of these other

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00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:35,120
Speaker 1: things somehow get better. Tuesday or one five, one three.

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Speaker 1: You're tuning into Big Blue Kickoff Live, Thursday's edition presented

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Speaker 1: by Corps Light. Let's head back to the phone lines.

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Speaker 1: Jerry is in New Jersey and he joins us here

614
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Speaker 1: on bb K. What's happened to Jerry? First off, thank you.

615
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm a very long time fan, long time first time

616
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: cool tune in, and first of I would like to say, gentleman,

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00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: he gets an A plus for his drift this year.

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00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: How many players did he drift that have not only

619
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: football skills but show up at O t s and

620
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: want to be there? Both of them? I think you

621
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: can say that about most of them. During the course

622
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: of this stay with us. He changed our offensive line,

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Speaker 1: gave us all hope, and he makes me feel like

624
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: I thought when I first became a Giant fan. That's

625
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: really that's really cool. Well, now here's what I will say. Okay,

626
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: for those who still don't understand, uh, you know, look

627
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: at the team he inherited and how poorly they were performing. Well,

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00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: you have two choices. You either stay with what you got,

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00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 1: which clearly wasn't gonna be very good, or you make

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00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: as many changes as it possibly can make to try

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00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 1: to make it better. And you know that's the road

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00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: he has decided to take. And then he still gets criticized.

633
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: It's it's ridiculous, right, Well, they picked on Gettleman because

634
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: you didn't take a quarterback last year. He didn't reach. Instead,

635
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 1: he took the best player in the draft, I think.

636
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: And the second thing is this year he did stretch

637
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: sort of say for a quarterback, and he gets criticized

638
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: for that, but he was in full bloom love with

639
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Dad checks all the boxes, like he says.

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00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: And one ware thing on Chikombark, he reminds me of

641
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: Frank Effort. And just for instance, Frank Effort was in

642
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: league with Paul Horny. Frank Effort was obviously no problems,

643
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Speaker 1: Hall of famed person and not only football player. But

644
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Speaker 1: then we have Paul Horning, who is could have been

645
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Speaker 1: the better of the two hand backs, but gets thrown

646
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: out of league year for gambling at a few other problems. So,

647
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 1: like I said, it reminds me when we had Frank Diffort,

648
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: and I could actually worship one of my hear spread

649
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: than make excuses for yeah, real quick, what else I'd

650
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: like to say something about Eli real quick that it

651
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,680
Speaker 1: used to be a saying. I don't know who staid it,

652
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 1: but it said that you can tell a good football

653
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: player when you could take his team and beat yours,

654
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: and when you could take your team and beat his.

655
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Speaker 1: And I'm just thinking about Eli and m Brady, uh

656
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: like that because I'm Brady twice with his team and

657
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: obviously wasn't the best team. And one more thing with that,

658
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: I'd like to say that, just for supposing somehow Eli

659
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Speaker 1: ended up with Belichick and Brady ended up with the Giants,

660
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: to suppose what their careers would have looked like, would

661
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: Brady still be a goat? Well, I mean it's hard

662
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: to say. That's a heck of a hypothetical. Wow, that's

663
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: a That's a fun one to think about, isn't it.

664
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Speaker 1: An environment impacts the quarterback, but also the defense of

665
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: the special team's impacts a team, So you know you

666
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: have to take all of that, I think within the conversation.

667
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Speaker 1: I appreciate the phone call, Jerry, Thanks so much for

668
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: weighing in. Keep in mind, quarterbacks don't beat quarterbacks. Teams

669
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: beat teams in the national that is true. But Jerry

670
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: I would say one thing, Uh, just be happy. Soak

671
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: in the fact that Ellis had a Hall of Fame

672
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: career and he's won two Super Bowl m v ps,

673
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: and he's given you a lot of joy as a

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00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 1: Giants fan. I don't think there's any need to be

675
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: hypothetical or speculated about anything else. Just enjoy what was

676
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 1: a phenomenal career. Indeed, let's head back to the phone lines.

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00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: We got Will, who joins us from Houston. Will, what's happening? Hey, guys,

678
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,759
Speaker 1: are you doing that? Hello? All right, well we'll tell

679
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: your mind. Yeah. Yeah, So you know, I don't know

680
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: if it's been talked about on this program or not

681
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: past a couple of days, but I just want to

682
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: send my condulences and thoughts of our stars family of

683
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,760
Speaker 1: passing a him over the weekend. Yeah, we did mention

684
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: that the other day for sure. Yeah. I just have

685
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: a have a quick story just kind of how he

686
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: influenced my life as a young football player. If you

687
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: guys can stare with me for a moment, and uh,

688
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: throughout the year as well too, you know, would just

689
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: kind of being you know, I don't like to think

690
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: about it because it's a bit of sweet, but potentially

691
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: the eli's last year a lot of influencer him as

692
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: well to being a young man. Grew up in Mississippi

693
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Speaker 1: titleized sham as a young quarterback through Pop Warner middle school,

694
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: high school, college. Um, but you know, we'll kind of

695
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Speaker 1: say that throughout the year, but you know, specifically with

696
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 1: Parts Star my very first game ever playing any kind

697
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: of Pop Warner football. My grandfather used always telling me

698
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: all these stories about all the old guys. Uh reminds

699
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: me a lot of Paul talking about football. But um,

700
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 1: whenever I was young, kind of going into that whole

701
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: process of playing and stuff he called talking about Parts

702
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,360
Speaker 1: Star in the ice bol and the quarterback sneak to

703
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 1: win the game. My very first Pop Warner football game ever.

704
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: I get in, I'm like, you know, eight years old,

705
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 1: like the second string. We're getting blown up by like

706
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: three or fourth scores. So of course all the good

707
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: kids come out and all the bad kids going at

708
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Speaker 1: the time, and uh, at the time, you know, we're

709
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: just running like I formation quarterback speech to the outside

710
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: that's all we did. And we get down and it's

711
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: a minute left. We're losing by three scores, and you know,

712
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: we've got the ball close to the goal line, like

713
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: two yard line, and the coach calls the fullback dive.

714
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Speaker 1: And I remember my grandfather tell me about Bart starting

715
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Speaker 1: quarterback snake, so eight years old to call my own audible,

716
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Speaker 1: and I scored my very first touchdown. Every of the

717
00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: football player in quarterback sneak because the Bart star Cool,

718
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 1: the healthy influenced that. But um, that's all I got

719
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Speaker 1: for you to leave you with that, And I said,

720
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Speaker 1: hopefully it's the year I'll be able to call in

721
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: with more stories about Eli as well too. Just you know,

722
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: with all that influence, he's out on me too. But

723
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys taking my call. All right, Well cool,

724
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: very cool, Thanks so much. Chooser four five one three

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Speaker 1: is the telephone number. I got a Twitter comment here

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Speaker 1: from a difficult name to pronounce, Zach Cher Nobyl Bilsie.

727
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Speaker 1: I believe I'm sorry if I didn't get Zack Zack. See,

728
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Speaker 1: he says, to what degree would hard knocks hurt the

729
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: giant's ability to hide and store hidden gems on the

730
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Speaker 1: practice squad, considering a Conrad Dungee and and anybody else

731
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Speaker 1: who may be of interest. Um, they have not decided,

732
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: by the way NFL films and HBO in the league,

733
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Speaker 1: they have not decided which team will be the Hard

734
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Speaker 1: Knocks subject. I personally, if it were me and I

735
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Speaker 1: had a say in it, I would not want my

736
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Speaker 1: organization to be part of Hard Knocks. I don't need

737
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Speaker 1: the stacksons, the attention, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. I would not

738
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: want my team to do it. Um. Do I think

739
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 1: that it necessarily impacts the secrecy of practice squad plans?

740
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: That's that's an interesting question. I don't think it does.

741
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,959
Speaker 1: I don't because I think there are too many things

742
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: that go into the player evaluation that you don't see

743
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 1: on a just short edited version of a weekly program. Well,

744
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it depends on your coaching staff,

745
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,280
Speaker 1: your players. If they stay on task and their focus,

746
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: then I'm not too overly concerned about the cameras. And

747
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: you know, first of all, listen, when you play in

748
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: the New York market, Paul, you understand what it's like

749
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: to have cameras in front of you. You understand what

750
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: it's like to be peppered with sometimes questions that have

751
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 1: no relation to the topic at hand, So I don't

752
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: really think it would have a negative influence. Do I

753
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: think that Giants are gonna be selected for hard Knocks? No,

754
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: I would say it's a much more likely scenario that's

755
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 1: one of those other teams that are eligible gets selected.

756
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you're heard by the way

757
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 1: Jake Gruden's comments head coach of the Redskins, but he

758
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: and his brother's team are both eligible. John Drew with

759
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: the Raiders, so Jay was publicly campaigning for why the

760
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: Raiders make a lot more sense to be on hard

761
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: It was quite funny. See, I think the Redskins should

762
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: be the team for hard knocks, I really do. Well.

763
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: I think you just want another NFC East team. I

764
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: just think that surrounded the great Dwayne Haskins, you know,

765
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Speaker 1: coming out of Ohio State, all the publicity and the headlines,

766
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: he's he's a natural magnet for ratings for HBO. Not

767
00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: to mention, they are in the capitol, Nation's capital, which

768
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: is a big football town. People are always always over

769
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Speaker 1: the top enthusiastic about the Redskins and Redskins Land and

770
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,439
Speaker 1: I understand that that there's some of the best fans

771
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Speaker 1: in the league, so why not. And Gruten's a good

772
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Speaker 1: personality as a head coach. Absolutely, I think he doesn't

773
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Speaker 1: get probably enough credit for some of the quarterbacks that

774
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,919
Speaker 1: he's worked with and helped develop. But so these legit reasons, well,

775
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: you went to legitimate reasons after the fact that initially

776
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: off you mentioned the NFC East. I didn't mention the NFC.

777
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: I think you did. You're keeping things close to the chest.

778
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: Well leave it. I'm simply giving the gameculations for another time.

779
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 1: You did, you got to the legitimate reasons. It took

780
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 1: you some time, you got to legitimate reasons. I would

781
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Speaker 1: make the case, though, I think the Raiders are by

782
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: far the most attractive option. Though, Paul, Well, the thought,

783
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: despite what you just laid after the thought is that

784
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: they're going to go to Vegas in a year and

785
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 1: that they want better for Vegas. Well, that's a better

786
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: hard knocks than this one would be. Well, but first

787
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 1: of all, we've seen teams on hard knocks multiple times.

788
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: The Cowboys were in hard knocks multiple times. I feel

789
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: like there's been other teams having the Bengals been on

790
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: hard knocks multiple times of memory. I don't recall. But

791
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You're gonna do Raiders back to back.

792
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: I doubt it, no, But who says you gotta do

793
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: it year one? Do it? You know, maybe two or

794
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 1: three years into Vegas. They probably would want to market

795
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: the Vegas move as much as they can. I I

796
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: understand the logic behind those who think the Raiders are

797
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: the better topic for next season. I get that. So

798
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: just just give it to the Red Skin. And it's

799
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown's first year in Oakland. Growden alone is personable

800
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 1: that he won't shy away from the cameras. You've got

801
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: Richie Incognito, Vantes perfect, You've got so many Raids on

802
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: that team. But here's the bottom line. The best reasons

803
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: are Redskins are Raiders. There's no question. Well I totally

804
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: agree with that. There are more reasons for those two

805
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 1: teams than anybody else. So as long as one of

806
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: those two teams gets it, it's wonderful. And I do

807
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: think it's probably in all likely going to be one

808
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: of those two teams. But the other thing is, I

809
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: think hard knocks Paul. This is big picture perspective. I

810
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: think it's more about the personalities on the team than

811
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: the environment. So, for example, even if their rationalities, we

812
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: want to wait for the Raiders to get to Vegas,

813
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: you watch Hard Knocks. This is my personal opinion. I'm

814
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: not saying everybody subscribe to this because of what the

815
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: players bring to the table. You know, who's got that personality?

816
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: Who do they follow off the field? So well, they're

817
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: in Vegas, so I want to watch. The Giants are

818
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: a very nondescript team right now. Well, and that's I

819
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: think part of the reason why I don't think they

820
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,439
Speaker 1: would pick the Giants. I also think, once again, there's

821
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: more attractive story that anyways connected to getting We're getting

822
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,919
Speaker 1: into the wrong part of the question. The better part

823
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: to the question was, and the real part to this

824
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Speaker 1: man's question, Zack out there, z actually the negative? Does

825
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Speaker 1: it no? Does it impact your ability to hide a

826
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Speaker 1: practice squad player? Oh well, I mean, listen, we've talked

827
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Speaker 1: up some practice squad eligible guys slash Fringe fifty three

828
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: man guys and writers write about it. We talk about it,

829
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: and sometimes those guys are claimed and sometimes times they're not.

830
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 1: I would not be overly concerned about Hard Knocks beefing

831
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: up guys. I don't think it matters either, because, quite honestly,

832
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:10,359
Speaker 1: those shows are edited down anyway. And quite frankly, if

833
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: anyone is really seriously talking about a personnel decision, you

834
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: know it's not going to make the final cut. It's

835
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Speaker 1: just not well. First of all, if you're one of

836
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Speaker 1: the executives from the thirty one other teams in the

837
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: NFL and you go to your general manager and say

838
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: I saw him on Hard Knocks, I want to get

839
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: that guy. Do you really think that he's gonna he's

840
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: gonna suggested? I mean, come on, you know, for example,

841
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: I don't know how closely you watched Hard Knocks last year, Paul,

842
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 1: last year was the Brown. Some years I watched it close.

843
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: So my guess is he didn't watch it last year.

844
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: There was a guy, Jevin could Juice who was highlighted

845
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: a lot on Hard Knocks last year, and he was

846
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: a good guy, funny personality. They followed him on and

847
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: off the field. The hard Protections was was James was

848
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: another guy. Correct. And but the reason why I'm bringing

849
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: up Couldrews Couldjuice didn't make the Cleveland Brown team. And

850
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: I want to say I don't even think he may

851
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: have been claimed by another team or me. He was

852
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: and he didn't ultimately make the roster, don't hold me

853
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: to it. I could be mistaken. So once again, I

854
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: would not lose sleep over the fact that somebody is

855
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: going to take notice if your player. If they're gonna

856
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: take notice of that player, it's because the scouting department

857
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 1: went to some other preseason game, saw what they liked

858
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: and reported back to their GM. Not that they've got

859
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: a great personality on hard knocks, So I wouldn't necessarily

860
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 1: go too crazy about that. We we got some more here, Uh.

861
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: Alex Wilson says Corey Lattimer was on pace for his

862
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: best season yet in eighteen, succumbed to injury. Was a

863
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: hundred ninety yards and a score over six games and

864
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: just two starts. Uh. He's looking at him to be

865
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: a great number three. Uh. Personally, I think they could

866
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: get more production out of the receiving spot from someone

867
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: higher than Lattimer. I think Latimer to me is a

868
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: four more than he is a After what I saw

869
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: last year, I think I need a little more speed

870
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: at the spot. Corey Coleman to me, that was going

871
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: to be the name that I was going to throw out.

872
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: I really watch out for him. I think he can

873
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: thrive in this scenario, if you know, given the opportunity

874
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 1: and remaining healthy, I think that's a really good attractive

875
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: spot for you know, if Latimer could have stayed healthy

876
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: last year. I was very intrigued when they signed him.

877
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: I thought he was a good possession receiver or moved

878
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 1: the chains kind of guy. But one thing we do know,

879
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: he is a good locker room guy. He is a

880
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 1: good special teams guy, and I do think he deserves

881
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: an NFL roster spot. I'm just not so sure that

882
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: with the Giants receiver mix, they wouldn't be better off

883
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: with him as the four instead of the three, to

884
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: try to get more speed in the number three spots. Well,

885
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: I will say this again, it is unfortunate that he

886
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: was sidelined due to injury last season. It would have

887
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 1: been nice to see a full year under his belt

888
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 1: in this offense. Though the few opportunities that he did have,

889
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: Paul I always felt Cody Latimer made plays. I remember

890
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: there was there was play. What was the game? Do

891
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: you remember? There was a play was up the left sideline.

892
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: He held out. I think it was a left hand

893
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: and then he holded him. I don't, but you remember

894
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: that there was a really and he made a few

895
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: of those. So in his small sample size, and I'm

896
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 1: bringing up his numbers, he was only out there for

897
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: six games, two starts, and he only had eleven receptions

898
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: for a buck nineties. So compared to what he did

899
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,479
Speaker 1: even in Denver, that wasn't necessarily something that you would,

900
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, get overly excited about. But if remaining healthy

901
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: and having another year under his belt in this system,

902
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: there is an absolute spot for Cod Latimer on this roster.

903
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: There is again it's you're gonna have to compete though

904
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: after the top guy you should have. The problem is

905
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: they brought a golden Tape to be the primo, and

906
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: he is an elite possession receiver, third down conversion monster

907
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: and and the kind of guy who you want to

908
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: feature as much as possible in the key spot. Well, again,

909
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: no disrespect to Corey Latimer, but I'm I'm gonna look

910
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: for old and take to fill that type of role.

911
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: That's why, to me, the third guy needs to be

912
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 1: a speed demon. This is more about fitting certain parts

913
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 1: and certain positions. More so than it's about Corey Lattimer.

914
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,240
Speaker 1: I get that, and that's why to me, Corey Coleman,

915
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: as we discussed, I think would be a nice compliment

916
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 1: to the Shepherds and the Golden Tates of the world.

917
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: But someone has stretched that field for those other guys

918
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: to operate. But Ottimer is not going to do that.

919
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 1: But I will say this, if the roster is ultimately Shepherd, Tate, Lattimer, Coleman,

920
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: Russell Shepherd. Between Lattimer, Coleman and Russell Shepherd, I like

921
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: that mix. I think all of those guys bring something

922
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: different to the table, and all of those guys can

923
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: be productive and make play. So if that is what

924
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: becomes of the depth chart, I guess is what I'm saying.

925
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: Paul at wide receiver. I think the Giants could be

926
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: in a way worse position than that. So I'd be

927
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: more than comfortable on the Giants coaching staff having to

928
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: rely on those three game And if somebody beats any

929
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,880
Speaker 1: of those guys out, then that just means they deserve

930
00:47:57,960 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: to do it and the Giants are even better for it.

931
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: We have another one here from ny G Pete. My

932
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: five undrafted free agents with the best shot at making

933
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: the roster in order. C J. Conrad, who's my dark

934
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: horse pick? James O'Hagan the center, Uh Conrad the tight end,

935
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: by the way, offensive tackle Paul Adams, He's the guy

936
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: from Missouri who was by some by some picks, was

937
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 1: the most talented, most qualified offensive tackle who was not

938
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 1: drafted in the league. He did have a lot of

939
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: of free agent phone calls. UH. Linebackers, safety Jacob Carlock,

940
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: who some people have been very interested in, and Josiah

941
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: uh to to Ifa. I don't I still don't get

942
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: his name right. He's an inside linebacker. Uh. Those are

943
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: the five that he is listing and wants to know

944
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:51,959
Speaker 1: what what we think of those guys. I'm I'm going

945
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: Conrad all the way. I've already made that very clear.

946
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: He would be my dark horse. And again I'm discounting

947
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: Dungee because I don't consider him a dark horse every

948
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: and he knows about him and we all believe that

949
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to make it on the fifty

950
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: three is a Swiss army knife. Well, to me, you

951
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: also need to look at the position of those players. So,

952
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: for example, he lists James o'hagen as number two, but

953
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: You're talking about a roster right now that has two

954
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 1: guys competing for the starting job, and they're all likelihood

955
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: the guy that loses that job still has a really

956
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 1: good chance of making the roster because he can at

957
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: least play guard. And I'm talking about Hallo, p O,

958
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: and Pulley. So are they gonna go to now a

959
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: third center? And oh, by the way, Evan Brown, who

960
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: I think has also been lost in the conversation. You've

961
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: got three guys to me that have been in the system,

962
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: have experience. I would not put all Hagen too. I

963
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: think that's extremely high. If you really want me to

964
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 1: analyze this list, it would be hard for me to

965
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: see him do better than practice squad. Yeah, so Conrad

966
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: to me makes sense because he plays a position where

967
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: I think there's opportunity outside of the Evan Ingrams and

968
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: the Red Ellison's of the world. You know, Scott Simonson

969
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: was on the roster, Scott Simons had got some playing time,

970
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: but could they want to maybe go a little bit

971
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,879
Speaker 1: younger at that position. It would not stunt be Pole.

972
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: So Conrad to me would make sense at number one too.

973
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: I probably move up Jake Carlock once again because of

974
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: the position he plays, the ability to be a linebackers

975
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,840
Speaker 1: slash safety. He to me, makes the most sense to

976
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 1: go at number two. We've also seen like a guy

977
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: like Sean Chandler make this roster last year, so there's

978
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 1: still opportunities at that position. And then I'd probably go

979
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: with Paul Adams at three. That would be my top three.

980
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 1: Beyond that, I think it's taken it a little too far.

981
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 1: I've never been here where I've seen we're talking about

982
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: more than three undrafted guys make this roster. I can't

983
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: remember a season when we've had they've had four. I mean,

984
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: it's not unlo, it's rare, it's not unlike, and he

985
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: can do it. No, and there have been tons of

986
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: years where you've had at least two three guys. I

987
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: don't think it's pushy at four. To me, Let's see

988
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: last year it was Hailey and Chandler. Chandler correct averages.

989
00:50:54,440 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: Last year, Evan Brown, Evan Brown, and then of course

990
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: they had they had practice squad. Nick Gates was but

991
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm including I'm including three, of course practice squad. What

992
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:13,240
Speaker 1: I'm thinking is, uh, Tay Davis, We'll see an undrafted

993
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:18,839
Speaker 1: rookie free agent, there's your four. I mean, at four

994
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: is not unlike the Giants. The Giants habitually have, you know,

995
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: minimum of two and oftentimes four, So I don't think

996
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,959
Speaker 1: it's out of the question to think that four could

997
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: make it this year. I just think with some of

998
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 1: the changes that were made via free agency, and then

999
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: a number of the guys that are returning who have

1000
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:43,879
Speaker 1: familiarity with the offense or defense, I think it's less

1001
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 1: likely they're going to see four undrafted guys. Plus, remember

1002
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: you also have a big rookie class well of legitimate drafting.

1003
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: That's that's that's the real rub here, because they did

1004
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: draft ten guys, plus they got bo last year. So

1005
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: when you combine all of those factors, that makes it

1006
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: hard to before I think it's pushing it this but

1007
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me if there too, and that would

1008
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: not I think there's definitely gonna be one, though I

1009
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: think Conrad's gonna make it well. I mean, the Giants

1010
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: have had a pretty strong track record of retaining at

1011
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: least one to two undrafted players every single season, no

1012
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: matter who the general manager or the structure of the

1013
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: front office has been, so I don't think that's a

1014
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: stretch at all. While you are looking through a few

1015
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 1: more tweets, I do want to also get back to

1016
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: some of the one questions that we were talking about earlier.

1017
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: Just want to peruse a few more of them, considering

1018
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: it gives you an idea of what the NFC East

1019
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,920
Speaker 1: may look like in some of the questions hovering over

1020
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: the division. Uh, we hit on the Redskins, we had

1021
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys, we had on the Giants. Here's a

1022
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: few Eagles questions. Number thirty nine, is Carson Wentz entirely

1023
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: healthy and Kenny stay that way all season? And connected

1024
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: to that is number sixty eight. Could the backup quarterback

1025
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: Nate Sudfeld be another Nick Foles for the Eagles if

1026
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: need be well. Carson Wentz has looked good during O

1027
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: t A s thus far in the limited time that

1028
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: he's been out there throwing. So I think the fact

1029
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: that they shut him down at the tail end of

1030
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: last season they rested him all throughout the off season

1031
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: is an encouraging sign that they're not going to try

1032
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: to repeat and try to force him back onto the

1033
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: field and him also trying to get back on the field.

1034
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: So I think his health entering the year. Is not

1035
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: a question as to whether or not he's gonna hold

1036
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 1: up for sixteen games. The track record says no, because

1037
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: he's missed games and just about all of his seasons.

1038
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: So I do think that the Eagle is gonna have

1039
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 1: to make sure they solidify the backup quarterback job. And

1040
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: I actually like Nate Sudfeld. Nate Sudfeld was actually with

1041
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: the Redskins, and the Redskins let him go Paul, and

1042
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: to me, it was a steel for the Eagles to

1043
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: have him as their third quarterback over the last few seasons,

1044
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: and I think he was at time to develop. He's

1045
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: had time to learn Doug Peterson system. So yes, if

1046
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: Sudfeld has to start, if I'm the Eagles, I'd feel

1047
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: good that he can fill in for at least one

1048
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: or two games and be a productive quarterback. I would

1049
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: not have my doubts with that well, especially because he's

1050
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: can comically attractive. But I'm looking at it more from

1051
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 1: a skill set. I think there's some upside with him,

1052
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: and I think the Redskins wish they still had it.

1053
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: We got a couple more tweeks. Can we go to

1054
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: those harding says Kwan may have fewer than five yards

1055
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: per carry and still have a great season. Only ten

1056
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 1: people of average five yards to carry for their career

1057
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: in NFL history, and three were quarterbacks, and he lists

1058
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,440
Speaker 1: them as Michael Vick, Randall Cunningham. Let's see if I

1059
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: can get the rest of him here, Marion Motley, Jamal Charles,

1060
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: Jim Brown, and Cam Newton, Mercury Morris Uh and also

1061
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: there Joe Perry, Gale Sayers, Barry Sanders. Those are the

1062
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Speaker 1: guys who averaged five yards and more for their careers.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Bartner is gonna be five yards

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Speaker 1: or more for his career. I'm simply saying this particular

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Speaker 1: season coming up, I would not at all be surprised.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I'm predicting it he will average more than

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Speaker 1: five yards of carry in year two in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's crazy at all. And when you

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Speaker 1: take into the fact that you've got an improved offensive line,

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Speaker 1: I think that they're going to not necessarily rely on

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Speaker 1: him as much as a receiver as last year, so

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Speaker 1: they'll emphasize the run. I think the running games should

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Speaker 1: also open up based on the spread the wealth mentality.

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Speaker 1: Shepherd Tate Ngram, some of the other wide receivers we

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Speaker 1: talked about, you know, not necessarily anymore a team where

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Speaker 1: it's O'Dell, O'Dell, O'Dell, It's okay, who do you want

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Speaker 1: to focus on game to game. I think all of

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Speaker 1: those are encouraging factors for se Quanta still be effective

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Speaker 1: on the ground. So once again, I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: a crazy prediction. Devonka Juice. You mentioned him before last

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Speaker 1: year offseason and practice squad member with the Browns. Apparently

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Speaker 1: not with anybody right now. Um. In fact, one of

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Speaker 1: the tweets that we just got said they believe he's

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Speaker 1: retired from Timothy Allen, jirok or Jerroke. A. J. Marshall

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Speaker 1: says Corey Ballentine has been with the third team. Can

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Speaker 1: he play in the slot or has he been on

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00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: the outside? Well, right now, he's been outside. But you

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00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 1: know he's about five eleven. He's not, you know, one

1089
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: of those tall corners who you have to have on

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Speaker 1: the outside. This is a guy because of his his

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00:56:09,360 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: five eleven size, probably could be tried in the slot.

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Speaker 1: But with Haley and Love already in my opinion, battling

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Speaker 1: it out to be the lead slot guy. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that there's a lot of room to play him

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Speaker 1: in the slot right now. Um, I think they're just

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Speaker 1: gonna see what they have in him. Let's experiment, right

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Speaker 1: Why not. He's a terrific talent where has four or

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Speaker 1: four seven speed, So just let him go out there

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Speaker 1: and see where he best fits. Yeah, I think that

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Speaker 1: they should do that for a lot of these young guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the time of the year where

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Speaker 1: you see what you're working with as opposed to just

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Speaker 1: as signing roles. And if they feel that they're versatile

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Speaker 1: enough where they could be moved to the outside and

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Speaker 1: the inside, that's just an extra piece of versatility that

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Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna be working with. How many times

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Speaker 1: when DRC was here, Paul and I bring this example

1108
00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 1: up a lot, and he would be taken out in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the game, and then the Giants would

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Speaker 1: have to throw somebody in the mix. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: if you can move guys around, and you could say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, one of the guys on the outside

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00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: can now be moved into the inside and we have

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Speaker 1: a better guy suitable to take over on the outside.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's not necessarily putting your team in a

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Speaker 1: precarious position. Another example with the Giants. How many times,

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Speaker 1: and I'll remember exactly one game. It was a Giant's

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Speaker 1: Cowboys game, Paul here in East Rutford. Late in the game,

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Speaker 1: Terrell Thomas gets hurt and they correct on him three

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Speaker 1: straight pass and I think Tony Romo helps set up

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Speaker 1: a game winning field goal for the count. Remember, here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. Whoever wins the lead slot position, then the

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Speaker 1: other guy is gonna be the backup slot guy. Okay, fine,

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Speaker 1: Well let's say Haley wins it. Well, they're already talking

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Speaker 1: about love maybe working summit free safety, and we've seen that,

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Speaker 1: so nothing's wrong with Okay, guess what if Valentine at

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Speaker 1: some point, Remember he came in a little bit late

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Speaker 1: because of the playing, a bit of cat accident that

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Speaker 1: that that that he had to deal with. You know,

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Speaker 1: if he shows he can play some there's nothing wrong

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Speaker 1: with adding depth to that spot. I'm with you. And

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Speaker 1: when you can move guys around and experiment. Once again,

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Speaker 1: this is the time of the year that you're supposed

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Speaker 1: to do that. So I wouldn't get so caught up

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Speaker 1: by the way and what comes out of O t

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Speaker 1: A s where guys are lined up. The pole point

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Speaker 1: is they're trying to get a feel for these players.

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Speaker 1: Yet there are some some folks tweeting out starting line

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00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 1: up alignments. The actually think that means something. Go ahead

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Speaker 1: and take that to the bank. Right now, I'm just

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00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: lining up, getting first team red line up. Let's see

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Speaker 1: if you're homeless by the end of the year. Sure

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Speaker 1: it's gonna have a reflection one, all right. That is

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap things up for us. Appreciate the tweets, Appreciate

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Speaker 1: the phone calls. We'll maybe get to a few more

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Speaker 1: of those top one hundred questions on future shows over

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Speaker 1: the next few days. For Paul to Tino, I'm Lance Meado.

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kickoff Live as always presented by Core's Light,

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Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your Thursday, and as always, stay

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Speaker 1: locked the Giants dot Com. Have a good one.