1 00:00:01,400 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Your work week is over. Plan Colin said, if you 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: know coming tomorrow, don't bother coming in Monday. Hello, Bourday weekend. 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 1: This is the Last Word, the Offseason Home of the 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: Colts with Jeffrey Gorman and Matt Taylor. Hey, Happy Friday night. 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Welcome in to the Last Word, the offseason radio home 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: of your Indianapolis Colts. Here in the Home of the Colts, 7 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: this is ninety three five one oh seven five the Fan. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Thanks for giving us some of your time on our 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Friday night leading off your weekend. I'm Matt Taylor, no 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Gorman tonight he is out and about. Casey Valier's in 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: JJ Stangovitz from Coltstock come along as well. Tonight we're 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: live at the Indiana Convention Center here at the Combine 13 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: two twenty three. We're on Radio Row thirty sixth consecutive 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: year the city of Indianapolis has hosted the NFL Combine. Fellas, 15 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: it was a busy week, kind of dying down a 16 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: little bit here on this Friday, certainly as we get 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: closer and closer to the actual weekend. But the quarterbacks 18 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: spoke today, Casey, They're gonna work out tomorrow night. I 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: feel like just now. In some ways, the combine is 20 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: just a kind of heating up and started. It's that's 21 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: that's funny because most of the time, I feel like 22 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: in years past, about this time, everybody had already gone. 23 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: It's almost like last night they kind of left. But 24 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: all this intrigue at the top of the draft of 25 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks people were, I mean they were here this morning. 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: I got here at seven thirty. Yeah, I couldn't even 27 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 1: get near Bryce Young when he spoke at eight o'clock 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: this morning. I was that far, like late behind to 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: get I mean, that's how much intrigue there is the 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 1: top of this draft. For I couldn't evaluate Bryce Young 31 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: size because I was like forty yards from him, so 32 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: he was small to me. But that had nothing to 33 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: do with how actually big. On Twitter, he looked good, 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: right exactly. That the way it goes exactly. So we're 35 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: loaded up as we always are. Here. The last Word 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: to Night Always brought to you by FanDuel Sports Book. 37 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: Download the app today, make every moment more. Coming up tonight, 38 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk all about the combine. We'll react to 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: what Chris Ballard and Shane Steiken had his say. They 40 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: met with the media. I think that was Wednesday. Feels 41 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: like three weeks ago, considering all the stuff that we 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: had going on here at the Combine. This week we'll 43 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: also visit with NFL Draft insider Jordan Reid, who chatted 44 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: with us earlier this week here at the Combine. We'll 45 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: go over the quarterback class. So we're loaded up per usual, 46 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: but as we said, thirty six consecutive year, Indianapolis the 47 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: host city. That's going to be the case next year 48 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: as well. It's a two year deal between the NFL 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: and the Circle City, and then after that the rebid 50 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: process will start all over again. JJ. I'll start with 51 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: you though, what were your big takeaways this week at 52 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: the combine. What did you'll learn overall about the quarterbacks, 53 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: just about the depth of the certain areas position wise 54 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: of this draft as we're about six seven weeks away 55 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: from the draft in late April. Yeah, Matt, having conversations 56 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: with people, you know, for all the podcasts we've done 57 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:48,839 Speaker 1: for the Colts Audio Network that you can check out there, 58 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: or just you know, walking around the convention center or 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: going out to dinner, you learn that the quarterbacks this 60 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 1: year it is a good year to need a quarterback 61 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: first and foremost. And that's where the Colts are right now. 62 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: Where these four quarterbacks who are I think are at 63 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: the top of everyone's boards, Bryce Young, CJ. Stroud, will 64 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: leve Us, Anthony Richardson all have a lot of really 65 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: good traits and things that can be developed, and none 66 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: of them may be the you know, like we were 67 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: talking to Pat Kurwan yesterday. He's not a fan of 68 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: the quarterback. He is not, but he's right about this 69 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: that he said, you know, there's not a Joe Burrow 70 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: in this class. There's not and Andrew Luck. But I 71 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: think talking to so many other people, Pat is definitely 72 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: more of an outlier on it, and not like in 73 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks other people. A lot of these other people 74 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 1: like the quarterbacks in this year's class and think there's 75 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: a lot of potential. The question then becomes, how are 76 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: you going to develop them if you do wind up 77 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: getting them? And we learned that from Shane Steiken on 78 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: Wednesday a little bit, and that's exactly what I was 79 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: going to say, is the things you've learned about the 80 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks is there are four quarterbacks essentially that are worthy 81 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: of the top and you could talk to four people 82 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: and they have a different quarterbacks. That's the thing that 83 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: I have learned, especially. I mean, I would say that 84 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: most people think Bryce Young is the best quarterback in 85 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: the class, but there are so many questions about his height, 86 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: size and his durability to be able to stay with 87 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: that size with his frame to play an entire seventeen 88 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: game season. So they might think he's the best quarterback, 89 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: but that brings him down on their list. And it's 90 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: interesting because the Colts set at four. There's four quarterbacks. 91 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: You talked to four different people, they have one ranked higher. 92 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: So when when Chris Ballard makes comments about I don't 93 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: necessarily feel like you have to go up to get 94 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: that guy. It's interesting because there the three guys that 95 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: go before. Whoever the Colts pick at four could be 96 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: completely different from what the Colts view it. So that 97 00:04:35,839 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: is one of the things that I've learned. I thought 98 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 1: I would get a little bit more clarity honestly this 99 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: week on the quarterbacks, and I left with more questions. 100 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: One of the things I am interested with I heard 101 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 1: so much about Anthony Richardson and all of his potential 102 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: that it's it's throwing the wrenching. Is he the second 103 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: best guy behind Bryce Young. Where is c J Strout? 104 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: It's I almost have more questions now, I did say say, 105 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: we talked to so many people, and there are so 106 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: many hot takes and opinions floating around in my head, 107 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: trying to prioritize in sort okay, who said what? How 108 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: much stock should I put into who? How much experience 109 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: do you have? All of those things. But that's the 110 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: beauty of the combine. That's the beauty of draft season. 111 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 1: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You talked 112 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: about Chris Ballard and the speculation there and the Chicago 113 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: Bears this week and publicly saying we have faith, we 114 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: have a lot of belief in justin Fields. And so 115 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,039 Speaker 1: then the bells and the whistles and the alarms go off. 116 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 1: You know, we're up there in Chicago saying up, We're 117 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: up for sale. Start calling us. You know the phone 118 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: lines are open. What can you offer us? What did 119 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: you make We're going to play the sound bite here 120 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 1: in just a second. JJ, But those comments from Chris 121 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: Ballard not agreeing that the Colts have to move up 122 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 1: to number one to grab a difference making quarterback on 123 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: the surface level a lot of people here in Indianapolis 124 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: Colts fans are freaking out. What did you make of 125 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: those comments? Here's what I made of what Chris Ballard 126 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: said over the course of the probably twenty five minutes 127 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 1: he spoke on Wednesday. It was like a raw shock test. 128 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: If you came into it believing the cults are going 129 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: to trade up to number one, you could have come 130 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: out of it being convinced they're going to do that. 131 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: If you went into it believing the cults are going 132 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: to stay at number four, you came out of it 133 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: believing they're going to do that. This is what Chris 134 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: Ballard is so good at is he did not tip 135 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: his hand. Anyone who I think says he tipped his hand, 136 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: he was probably already thinking the cults are going to 137 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: do that, right, So what we learned is the process 138 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: for when a decision might be made on whether to 139 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: stay at four or to move up in the draft. 140 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: The cults are not there yet. They are not at 141 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: that point where anything is imminent or anything is close. 142 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: And I mean, look like Shane Styken got in the 143 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: building two weeks ago. Shane Styken barely has had time 144 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: to like eat dinner, let alone. Take a look at 145 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: the film of these quarterbacks. So now when you bring 146 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: Shane and who's gonna be a big part of the process, 147 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: this is when the cults are really going to start 148 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: evaluating that, you know, and really locking into that draft board. 149 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: But that's going to happen over the next month or two, 150 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, leading up to the draft. Like Chris Ballard said, 151 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: the cement is never dry until draft day, and that's 152 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: where the Colts are right now. And that's that's exactly right. 153 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: Was Shane Steke and just getting here. He's still we 154 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: haven't got confirmation on the entirety of his staff yet. 155 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: So I mean, if you think about it from that way, 156 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean, some of these guys haven't even been in 157 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: the building to start looking at where these guys are 158 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: lining up with what you know, the scouts and everybody 159 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: are looking at. So honestly, I mean, it's going to 160 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: be collaborative. Seven weeks to go, You've got seven weeks 161 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: and it's going to be essentially seven weeks of this. 162 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: This is what you're You've got, You've got all of 163 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: March and half of April to figure it out. And 164 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: that's why it is so imperative that you don't overreact, 165 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: you don't just listen to the outside noise and say, yep, 166 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: we have to make a trade and we have to 167 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: do this right now. It's it's one of those things 168 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: that I'm sure there's a lot of people that they 169 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: dislike the value of what Chris Ballard does with the 170 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 1: patients and kind of letting everything happen. But that is 171 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: so important right now because if you overreact and then 172 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: you look at it in a month and a half, 173 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: if you look and go, we could have gotten our 174 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: guy at four, we could have gotten our guy at seven, 175 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: and instead we traded all of this to go to 176 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: one wet. That's the thing. So it's some one of 177 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: those things where patients really is key because you've got 178 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: a lot of time. It's it's gonna be it's gonna 179 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: be feel like a short time, but you've got a 180 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: lot of time to evaluate and you got to make 181 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: sure you make the right decision. No, it all depends 182 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: on the Colts evaluation, which we're not going to know 183 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: the answer to that until late April. Again, here's Chris 184 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,680 Speaker 1: Ballard on not necessarily buying in the Colts have to 185 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: move up to number one to grab their top quarterback 186 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,280 Speaker 1: to move up. There's got to be a guy worthy 187 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: of it. Okay. I know everybody in the America is 188 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,839 Speaker 1: going to say, like, this is what's great right now. 189 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: Everybody has just automatically stamped that you've got to move 190 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: up to one to get it right. I don't know 191 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: if I agree with that. I don't. And but that's 192 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: gonna be the narrative, and that's okay. You'll got to 193 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: write something. You got to keep the news flowing. So 194 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily know if that's the I don't 195 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: know if that's the the right course of business. If 196 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: when we meet as a staff and we say, okay, 197 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: this is what we need to do. This is the 198 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: guy for the next ten to fifteen years, and we 199 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:13,080 Speaker 1: think he's the right guy, sure we'll do it. But 200 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: who's to say we won't get one At four. That's 201 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: Chris Baller. That was from earlier this week on not 202 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: on radio road, but just over the curtain, if you will, 203 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: the press conference area here in the Indiana Convention Center. 204 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: We're on radio road tonight with Casey Valley. I'm Matt Taylor, 205 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: JJ stangovitznow Jeffrey Gorman tonight, this is the last word. 206 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: You're on ninety three five and one oh seven five. 207 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: The fan head coach Shane stike And also met with 208 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: the media this week and he talked about the process 209 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 1: of trying to project what quarterback prospects can turn into 210 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: NFL franchise quarterbacks at the next level. Here's Shane steike 211 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: And on that. That's a great question. I think you 212 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: got to see the future. I mean, that's sometimes that's 213 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: probably one of the hardest jobs is predict the future 214 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: of these young guys. But what can they be? What 215 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: their capabilities are. I think all these guys in this 216 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: draft talent, and then how do you elevate their talent, 217 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: you know, as coaches and put them in position to succeed. 218 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: But that's a great question. Again as coaches, we've got 219 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: to do a hell of a job of evaluating that 220 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: and seeing what they could be. So there you go. 221 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: That's the new head coach of the Colts JJ. What 222 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: are the Colts going through this week as they try 223 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: to vet these quarterbacks, get enough intel on them as 224 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: much as they can with the on field workouts, the 225 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: fifteen minute in person behind closed door meetings. What can 226 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: they actually gleam from these quarterbacks this week at the 227 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: combine as it relates to the big puzzle of putting 228 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: together your draft board. Yeah, I think you know. The 229 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: first point is the medical for all these guys, just 230 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: making sure that everything is set there and you don't 231 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: have any red flags that may pop up during the 232 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,120 Speaker 1: medical testing on these guys, because look, if you're staking 233 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: your franchise to one of these guys, you need to 234 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: be absolutely sure of everything you possibly can be. And 235 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 1: that's the big piece of it this week. But you know, 236 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: just having the conversations. Maybe it's not directly with the quarterbacks. 237 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: Obviously those are very important, but maybe it's, Hey, you 238 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: pull in a guy who played with this other quarterback 239 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you start talking about something 240 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: and you learn a little bit about what makes Anthony 241 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: Richardson or Bryce Young or c J. Strat or whoever 242 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: tick and those little bits of evaluation and those little 243 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: bits of information are incredibly important. And when you have 244 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: everyone together in a setting like this at the NFL Combine, 245 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: there is a lot of information you can get directly 246 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: or indirectly about these quarterbacks and that's key. I mean, 247 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: you want to be able to find out everything you 248 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: possibly can about these guys because ultimately, let's say you 249 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: take a quarterback, this could impact the franchise for the 250 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: next decade plus. So that is a big, big decision 251 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna make. You want to know everything you can 252 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,959 Speaker 1: about these guys. I mean you may talk to people 253 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: you never thought you would ever talk to about an 254 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,120 Speaker 1: individual because you just want to know. And that's where 255 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: this time is hard. I mean, we talk about you 256 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,839 Speaker 1: have a month and a half, but ultimately that's all 257 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: you have. You have a month and a half to 258 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 1: make a decision that is that large. So it is 259 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 1: a very important time. And I'm sure it's one of 260 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:04,199 Speaker 1: those where you know, front office staff, coaches, scouts, GM 261 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: they I don't know how much sleep they get at 262 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: this time, and I'm sure I can. I can attest 263 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: because I made the poor decision to go out with 264 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: some friends on the media on Wednesday night and I 265 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,079 Speaker 1: was out way too late. I'm not going to say 266 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: all late. I was out, but the party was just 267 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: getting start with the Witching hour. The party was just 268 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: getting started after midnight when I was still out, and 269 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, you you walk into hotel lobby here comes 270 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: a head coach walking this way. There's an offensive coordinator, 271 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: there's an agent, right, there's Von Miller at the bar. 272 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was a wild experience. And 273 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 1: you know we're gonna talk. I mean, guys are gonna 274 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: talk to c. J. Stroud's barber back, We're gonna look 275 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: up Bryce Young's little league coach. I mean, that's how 276 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: big this goes or how deep it goes, right, and 277 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: trying to evaluate these things and get enough intel on 278 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: these guys with the magnitude of the decision. One thing 279 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: we do know, JJ, is that Chris Ballard's not going 280 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: to put a whole lot of stock and a lot 281 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: of emphasis on the on field workouts this week for 282 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Yeah, I mean he said, you can learn 283 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: what you need to learn from the film. You know, 284 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: you don't need to see on the that goes back 285 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: two three years, right, some of these guys. And you're 286 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: watching these guys in person as you're sending scouts, right, 287 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: you know you're watching Will Levis not only in two 288 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: thousand and twenty two, but in two thousand and twenty 289 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: one right in person. What something Chris Ballard said that's 290 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: really important is you work about a year ahead on 291 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, so you know you in two thousand and 292 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: twenty two, Yeah, you might have seen these guys, but 293 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: you probably saw him in two thousand and twenty one 294 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: elive and in person as well. I think for someone 295 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: like Shane Stikeen, it might make a little bit more 296 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: of a difference to see him live just because he's 297 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: a coach. He hasn't gone to see these guys play live. Yeah, 298 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:35,719 Speaker 1: so when he sees how the ball comes out of 299 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: these guys hands in the live on field workouts, that 300 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: will be a bit of an important part of the evaluation. 301 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: But it's not the end all be all, he said. 302 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: You know, like Bryce Young isn't throwing on Saturday, but 303 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: he said, that's not going to take him off our board. 304 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: That's not gonna ding him. You know. It's it's just 305 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 1: a very small little piece of the evaluation. Also, Shane 306 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: Styke and Chris Ballard, they confirmed this week some changes 307 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: along the coaching staff when they meet with the media 308 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: here at the Combine. First Gus Bradley and his defensive staff. 309 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: They're coming back, indeed, being retained for twenty twenty three 310 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: after putting up some good numbers for most of the 311 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: season last year. Casey, for you, how important was it 312 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: that Bradley comes back? You got some continuity there, But 313 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley's been a head coach in the NFL before, 314 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: and also he's got that relationship with Shane Steiken, So 315 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: you bring the continuity part into it, and there is 316 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: continuity there between he and Stike and so's It's one 317 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: of those things that I think we would all agree. 318 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 1: The defense wasn't a top five, top ten defense, but 319 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 1: it was definitely a playoff caliber defense. So being able 320 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: to keep that core together, you know, the focus was 321 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: going to be offense. That's what we had heard from 322 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: you know, you saw all the changes prior to the season. 323 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: It's you knew that was to be expected. So leaving 324 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: that intact and kind of just fine too. That makes 325 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: total sense to him. Elsewhere, Chris Ballard acknowledged that Tony 326 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: Sperrano Junior we all know that name, taken over as 327 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: the offensive line coach. Been in the NFL as a 328 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: coach since two eleven. Spent last season as the assistant 329 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: line coach for the Giants. Had the same position with 330 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: the Panthers the year before. The son of former NFL 331 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: head coach Tony Sperrano. So that's why it sounds familiar 332 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: to you. You like this hire. I do. And I 333 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: was talking about this with someone here this week about 334 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: how the Colts want They hired the New York Giants 335 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: assistant offensive line coach and the New York Giants running 336 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: backs coach. So that tells you those two guys together 337 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: probably are going to bring some elements in the New 338 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: York Giants run game, which was very conducive to Daniel 339 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: John Jones and say Quon Barkley. You have a guy, 340 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, Jonathan Taylor, who is a very good one 341 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: to one comparison for say Quon Barkley. They're both extremely 342 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: talented running backs who when they're at their peak, are 343 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: the best running backs in the NFL. And I was 344 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: talking about this with someone who said, that just shows 345 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: Shane Stikeen's scheme flexibility that he's not necessarily coming in 346 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: and saying we're running it the way that we ranted 347 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: in Philly, because I saw at work. It's, hey, you know, 348 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: these guys probably have some interesting ideas about about some 349 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: run concepts that they can provide, And I'm gonna go 350 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: get them. I'm gonna go hire them. I love that 351 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: about this coaching staff that it's not just a bunch 352 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: of guys who Shane Steke and his friends with. You know, 353 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: he is a relationship with Jim Bob Cooter coming in, 354 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: but no prior relationship with Tom Manning, none with Tony 355 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Sperrano Junior, none with DeAndre smith So and none with 356 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne. By the way, we're gonna get to in 357 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: a second. Yes, I like that. That's kind of how 358 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: the New York Giants built out their coaching staff last year, 359 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: where Brian day Bald didn't a relationship with Mike Kafka, 360 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: but brought him in because he thought he had some 361 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 1: good ideas and their offense was great last year. So 362 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: I like that that Shane Styken is showing that scheme 363 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: flexibility that I think is such an asset that he's 364 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: going to bring to this Colt's offense. And that's what 365 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: he showed with the quarterbacks, right, I mean, that's not 366 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: news around here. His flexibility scheme wise, passing, rushing, getting 367 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: the most out of the quarterbacks, there's no question about that. 368 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: You talked about Reggie Wayne. He announced on Twitter this 369 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: week he kind of broke his own news, which that 370 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: should always be the case that he's coming back, But then, 371 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: of course Shane Styken acknowledged that and confirmed that earlier 372 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: this week here at the Combine case. Arey's surprised that 373 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: that Regg is coming back, considering last year came in 374 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: thinking he was gonna work with Frank, But but he's 375 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: coming back, which proves that he liked it and enjoyed 376 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: it and is gravitating more towards being a coach. I'm 377 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: shocked just by I mean, I would say was right 378 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: around camp last year he had already talked about how 379 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: man this coaching thing, it's you come in when it's 380 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: dark and you leave when you don't see the sun. 381 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: You don't see the sun. He's a guy who's the 382 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: warmths to be on the beach. It's cold up here, 383 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: So in that aspect, I am a little surprised, But 384 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: it's one of those things. I think Reggie Ain is 385 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: gonna have a job here as long as he wants it. 386 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: And you see the way the wide receivers gravitated towards him, 387 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: the impact that he had, I do think it resonated, 388 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 1: and that is one of the reasons I think ultimately 389 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 1: he is back because he probably saw that. He saw that, Hey, 390 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: they're actually listening to my voice and they're getting better, 391 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 1: and they're getting better. If I can help out anyway, 392 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: that's Reggie. You know this. If he can help anybody 393 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: get better this much, he's gonna do it. And that's 394 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: the thing that I think you see. I mean, Reggie, 395 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: Reggie is a job of the Colts, not just because 396 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 1: not not because frankly his name is up in the stadium, 397 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: but because he's a really good I think that's the 398 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 1: thing we learned about Reggie Wayne this year is said 399 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: he's a really good coach, he can grow and the 400 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: work that he did with Alec Pierce. You know, I 401 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 1: remember talking to Alec during the season about just the 402 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: things he's picked up from Reggie. And you know, Reggie 403 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: doesn't put his film on. Reggie doesn't say this is 404 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: how I did it, go do it my way. He 405 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: really teaches these guys and emphasizes certain things where he 406 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: can lend his expertise. And it's not because I'm a 407 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: fourteen thousand yard receiver who should have a gold jacket 408 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: by now, which is ridiculous that he doesn't, But because 409 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: I have a deep investment in teaching these guys some 410 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: things and helping them learn and grow. There you go. 411 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: Good stuff so far on Radio Row here at the Combine. 412 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: That's JJ Stangovitz, Casey Valiers along as well. I'm Matt 413 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: Taylor filling in for Jeffrey Gorman. Tonight, this is the 414 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: last Word the off season at Home with the Colts. 415 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: We're just getting started. Loaded up with you until seven 416 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: o'clock tonight. When we come back, we're gonna go more 417 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: in depth on the draft in this quarterback class, break down, 418 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: some strengths and weaknesses of the top gun slingers here 419 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,160 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. Will do that with Jordan Ree, 420 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: NFL Draft Insider from ESPN and ESPN dot Com. Jordan 421 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,360 Speaker 1: Reed joins us on the other side when we come back. 422 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: This is the last Word on ninety three five and 423 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: one oh seven five the fan. Welcome back to the 424 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: Last Word, the offseason radio home of the Indianapolis Colts 425 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: from the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. This is 426 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: the Last Words the offseason radio home of the Indianapolis Colts. 427 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: With you every Friday night here on the Home of 428 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: the Colts. Ninety three five one oh seven five the Fan. 429 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,640 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor on radio row here at the Combine, 430 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: join alongside Kasey Valia, J J. Stangovitz from Colts dot Com. 431 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: No Gorman tonight, do we know where Jeffrey is. He's 432 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: gotta be gotta be Vega, Vegas, Vegas Vegas collection this weekend? Yeah, 433 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: they got the big show coming out or going out 434 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: right now in Las Vegas. Check that out if you can. 435 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: If you're looking for a late excursion, head out west 436 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: with Las Vegas an awesome event. It really is Vegas, 437 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: it really is. And there's gonna be more events across 438 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 1: the country dates TBD. If you will here in the springtime, 439 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:07,239 Speaker 1: in summertime with the Jim Ursay Collection. Tom Petty, by 440 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: the way, brought us back in with I need to 441 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: know because everybody needs to know what's going on with 442 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks, what's going on with the speculation with the 443 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: Colt sitting at number four? Are they gonna be able 444 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,640 Speaker 1: to get the quarterback that they like? Casey Valier, how 445 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: many people would you suggest were in front of C. J. 446 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: Stroud and Bryce Young earlier today? Oh? Boy, I mean 447 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: that happened early. It happened around seven fifty eight o'clock 448 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: this morning. I would say they got there about seven 449 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: fifteen or earlier. I mean, like I said, I got 450 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: there at seven thirty, and I was way back. I 451 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: would say at least one hundred and fifty. You ever 452 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: been to one of those concerts where you got the 453 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: headliner that's playing at eight am eight pm GA tickets? Yeah, 454 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: people show up at seven am. And that's why I 455 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: just figured someone just like slept here to get first 456 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: in line for Bryce. So I took a picture and 457 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: I was showing Matt and at George Brimmer, who covers 458 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: the coltson Anderson. He was front row, and Matt goes, 459 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: what did George get here four o'clock? Do you just 460 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: not lead yesterday? That's good stuff, man. This is the 461 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,640 Speaker 1: last word. We're brought to you by Fandel Sports Book. 462 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: Download the app today, make every moment more asked. Promise 463 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk draft right now, go more in depth 464 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: on these quarterbacks. Earlier this week, myself and Casey Valley 465 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: we talked with Jordan Reid, He's an NFL Draft insider 466 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: from ESPN. We got his fieldings on the quarterback class. 467 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: And which of these gun slingers he's most bullish on 468 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: when it comes to the potential of being franchise quarterbacks 469 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: at the next level in the NFL. So, I mean, 470 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: you're going to hear about the top four guys, and 471 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: I'll just start with Bryce Young of Alabama, the player 472 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: that I liked the most at the position. But the 473 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: one knock that you're gonna repeatedly hear about him is 474 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: the size. We'll see what he does end up measuring at. 475 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: I think the quarterbacks are doing measurements on Saturday morning 476 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,360 Speaker 1: this year, which is a little bit different, So we'll 477 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 1: see what he does end up measuring at. But with him, 478 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 1: as far as just playing the position, he has everything 479 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 1: that you want, the moxie, the mentality that he plays with, 480 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,160 Speaker 1: the killer instinct, the polways he plays with the same 481 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: heartbeat and no matter the moment of the game. But 482 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: it's just the size. You just have to be comfortable 483 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: with him being an outlier. This is just something that 484 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: we haven't seen before. And if I had a guess, 485 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: he's probably five ten and a half one hundred and 486 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: ninety five pounds. As long as he hits that threshold, 487 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: I think he'll be okay as far as going early, 488 00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 1: as far as the top five, but we'll see what 489 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,919 Speaker 1: he does now with that. Does it matter? I mean, 490 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: I want to know how much that measurement here matters, 491 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,440 Speaker 1: because more than likely that's not what he's going to 492 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: be playing at. I kind of want to look at 493 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 1: what that tape is so how much I mean, I 494 00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: know it's impossible to know what every GM is looking 495 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,159 Speaker 1: for and what you know, everybody has their thresholds, But 496 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: how much does that matter? How much will that matter 497 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: what he weighs in here as compared to what he 498 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 1: even does it as pro day It's really a team 499 00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: by team basis, just because there's some guys that like 500 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: those bigger statured guys just because they like to involve 501 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback in the design quarterback run game, and Bryce 502 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,919 Speaker 1: just doesn't have the body to consistently hold up to 503 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: that type of playing style. And you see younger guys 504 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,919 Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert and Jalen Hurts, these 505 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: guys that are involved in that quarterback design running game 506 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: that's just not really Bryce's game. Now. Bryce is a 507 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't say really good athlete. I think he's probably a 508 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: b level athlete. He's able to get himself out of 509 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: harm's way. He's not a statue back there by any 510 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. But you don't want to consistently 511 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 1: involve him as far as taking hits as being a 512 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: plus one in the running game. But like I said, 513 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: as far as playing the position, he has everything that 514 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: you want. It's just the size. Now, I know with that, 515 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: it's hard to say what it's going to do for 516 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: the future. But a guy like Bryce Young never seen 517 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, five ten, one eighty five, whatever it is 518 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 1: he's going to measure at. Is this something that if 519 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,159 Speaker 1: he can prove that he can make it, What is 520 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: that going to do for that position for the next decade. Well, 521 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: we've seen it already, I mean Kyler Murray, right, I 522 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: mean it seems like there's always exceptions, but you're kind 523 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: of getting lower and lower on those. So what is 524 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 1: that going to do. It'll be huge, just because I 525 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,880 Speaker 1: think size is something that evaluators have gotten a little 526 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: bit more passive about, especially seeing guys like Drew Brees 527 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,639 Speaker 1: and Russell Wilson and being successful and now with Kyler Murray, 528 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: I think is gonna help Bryce. But like I said, 529 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: it's just everybody has their different threats. So this is 530 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: going to be a team by team basis. Yeah, put 531 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: your GM hat on. I mean Chris Ballard spoke earlier 532 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: this week saying, you know, I don't know if we 533 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: have to go from four to one to get a 534 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: difference maker. But if you make that move from four 535 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: to one, the guy you have to be so sure on, 536 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 1: you have to be so convicted on. There can't be 537 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 1: a shadow of a doubt that this is your franchise 538 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: quarterback because we all know what happens if you get 539 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: it wrong. So for you, do you have a player 540 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: that you're so convicted about, Like if you're if you're 541 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: a general manager, is there a player in this bunch 542 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: that you're just so convinced is gonna have a good 543 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,439 Speaker 1: pro career? Stroude would be that one. He would be 544 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,479 Speaker 1: the one that I would be most comfortable with, just 545 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: because he has the size that you're looking for. You know, 546 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: he's gonna be able to step in from day one 547 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: and be able to contribute. He's extremely smart, and then 548 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: he's just so polished. And just to paint a picture, 549 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: I like using cross boord analogy. So with CJ. He's 550 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: like an ace picture on opening day. He's just so smooth. 551 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: He's just a natural eth the position. He's so polished 552 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: as far as re se read, see and reacting everything. 553 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: And then he doesn't have a super strong arm, but 554 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: he has enough to push the ball down the field. 555 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: So Stroud would be the one that I'm most comfortable 556 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: with that doesn't have a bunch of flaws. Yeah, talking 557 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: with folks here that the comparison on CJ. Strout in 558 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 1: the league right now is Jared Goff. Yeah. Do you 559 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: see that, because I mean a lot of when people 560 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: hear that, it doesn't depending on who you are, it 561 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: doesn't get a lot of people fired up, right, I 562 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: mean it's not going to get a lot of people 563 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: fired up. But Jared Goff went to a Super Bowl, right, 564 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: He was very successful for Detroit last year. And I think, 565 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: especially in the class where nobody instantly loves a quarterback, 566 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be more safe with the 567 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: floor of these quarterbacks, and I think CJ has the 568 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,439 Speaker 1: highest floor. He may not have the highest ceiling, but 569 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: as far as being able to come in and contribute 570 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 1: right away, as long as you have a good offensive line, 571 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: a run game and weapons around him. I think CJ. 572 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,159 Speaker 1: So you're saying he has the highest baseline. Absolutely, if 573 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: they had to step on the field tomorrow, I think 574 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,360 Speaker 1: CJ would be your best bet. Now, when you talk 575 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: about highest ceiling, I think we all know who that 576 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: guy is. With Anthony Richardson, I mean, the guy seems 577 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: like just a freak athletically. He's got the SIZEE got 578 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: the arm. Strange, it seems like beauty is in the 579 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: eye of the beholder. That seems like one of the 580 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: things we've heard all week. When you're looking at this 581 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: and you've got I would say, the other two guys, 582 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: Will Levis and Anthony Richardson, where are they on your 583 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: comparison and where is the gap between those two guys, 584 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: because I think we know where it is between those 585 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,360 Speaker 1: guys and Stroud and Young. So I put Anthony Richardson 586 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 1: as my third quarterback in September and everybody was like, WHOA, 587 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing? This was when Hendon Hooker was 588 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 1: making his highest assension and everything like that. But the 589 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: best way that I can describe it is that there's 590 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: so many different layers to his evaluation. And I'll go 591 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: all the way back to last year. So last year 592 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: he rotated time with Mry Jones, who ended up transferring 593 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. Those two guys had no idea who was 594 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: going to take the snaps the next series of the game. 595 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: So I don't even county that past season as far 596 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: as him starting. Last year was his first year starting 597 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 1: to meet and they didn't let him do a whole 598 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: bunch as far as the offensive scheme, just because everything 599 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 1: was pistol, play action, Faker booting to his left and 600 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 1: coming back to the right. So what we have to 601 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 1: figure out is the why behind that. Why didn't they 602 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: let him do more? And everybody looks on paper at 603 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: the fifty or completion percentage, but a lot of it 604 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: is just footwork with him, which is you have to 605 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 1: trust your coaching coming through the door. We see he 606 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: has the bazooka arm strength. Right. He's not very accurate 607 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: right now, but a lot of that is centered around 608 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: his footwork. But as far as being able to see 609 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,439 Speaker 1: the field, the dissecting coverages and then being decisive as 610 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: far as no one where to go with the football, 611 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: he has that, But once again it revolves back to 612 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: the accuracy standpoint. He has to get better with his footwork. Now, 613 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: I'll say this, the tricky part about his evaluation is 614 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: that everybody wants to use the Patrick Mahomes blueprint of 615 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: where you wanted to sit for a year, you want 616 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 1: to season veteran. But the only way Anthony is going 617 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: to get better and work through these flaws and play. 618 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,199 Speaker 1: That's the tricky part about his evaluation. And that's one 619 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: of the things. I mean in the NFL, there's really 620 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: no patience. It's really really different exactly Now. One of 621 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: the things the Colts did, they've knew coaching Shandon stek 622 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 1: and who's got you know, wide range of quarterbacks that 623 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: he has had time with. And one of the things 624 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: that he mentioned how he thinks in the NFL accuracy 625 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: numbers they can definitely increase. That's one way you can 626 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: improve that. So from a national perspective, a guy who 627 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: has worked with a handful of different quarterbacks, is that 628 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: a guy that you can see a Shane steik And and 629 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: and a Chris Ballard kind of taking a chance on. 630 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 1: Because of the high ceiling, you can get this huge 631 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: boom and you've got a guy who's already worked with 632 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: a handful of different quarterbacks. Absolutely and it goes back 633 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: to the ceiling of the floor discussion. And if I'm 634 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: Shane Steiken, I have to look to the future. I 635 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: have to beat Patrick Mahomes, I have to go through 636 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, I have to beat Joe Burrow. So he 637 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: is a guy like c. J. Strout or Bryce Young 638 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: or Will LEVI is going to give me that opportunity 639 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: to do that? Or do I want to trust my 640 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: coaching and coach up this freak athlete that I think 641 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: can step on the field tomorrow and do exactly what 642 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: Justin Fields did as a runner last year. I think 643 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna be him, Lamar Jackson and Justin Fields as 644 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: far as the top three runners in the NFL right away. 645 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: But you have to trust your coaching and quarterback developing 646 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 1: to get that side of the game to catch up. 647 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: But what I always say about these mobile quarterbacks is 648 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: that it's great to have mobility, and that's why the 649 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: game is catering towards them, just because they can use 650 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,719 Speaker 1: that as a kickstand while the mental part of the 651 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: game catches up to the mobile side. So if you 652 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: take Anthony, you have to trust your coaching to coach 653 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: up that footwork coach up that decisive playmaking and then 654 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 1: just galvanize it around the athleticism that he has. That's 655 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Reid, NFL Draft insider for ESPN. Generally speaking, where 656 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: are you with playing a rookie quarterback right out of 657 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: the game, especially if you're gonna pick that guy in 658 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: the top fifteen. I always like having a veteran in 659 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: the room just so you can use him as a bridge. 660 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: The worst thing that can happen is that guy plays 661 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: the entire year, that guy sits the whole year, and 662 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: then you start them in year two. So I think 663 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: I always think it's great to have a veteran in 664 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: the room, just because these guys have no idea how 665 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: to be a pro. They don't know how to prepare, 666 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: they don't know how to study, they don't know how 667 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: to watch film, they don't know what they're looking at 668 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: from an NFL perspective. So I always say, if you're 669 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: a team thinking about drafting a quarterba, go sign a 670 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: ten plus a year veteran, just because that knowledge is 671 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: so great for them, just because they don't know. They 672 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: say they know they went through in the college, but 673 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: they don't know. Now I know this is something that's 674 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: going to continue to grow. We saw the Jalen Carter 675 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: news yesterday. When you look at that from the top 676 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: end of this draft, it was kind of you got 677 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and then you got Will Anderson and Jalen Carter. 678 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: Now kind of Jalen, not sure what's going to happen there, 679 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: But how do you think that's gonna shake up the 680 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: top of the draft with teams that don't need a 681 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: quarterback and these other teams that might say, hey, you know, 682 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: we might need to jump up and into quarterback because 683 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: that's where the deepest part of this. I think it 684 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: makes the Bears think twice about trading and back just 685 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: because and I said this, I think the sweet spot 686 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: for them to trade back was forth that the Colts, 687 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: just because I think Houston's gonna take a quarterback. So 688 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: you guarantee yourself one of Will Anderson or Jalen Carter 689 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: at that fourth spot for the Bears. So it throws 690 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: a wrench and a lot of things right now. And 691 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: you know, I can't speak on this legal situation. I 692 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: don't know what's going on with that, so I can't 693 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: give them more details about that. So we'll see what 694 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: does happen with that news is not good for the Colts, 695 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: then no, it's not, just because I think the natural 696 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: marriage with the Colts was to trade up with the Bears. 697 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: And if I had to pick one team that would 698 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: trade up to one, it would be the Colts. That 699 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: was my vote, just because Poles and Chris ballad they 700 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,880 Speaker 1: worked together in Kansas City. And then also I think 701 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: the Bears wanted to trade back and feel comfortable a 702 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: spot of getting Will Anderson or Jalen Carter. And then 703 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: also I'll say this, I think Jim Mersey wants his 704 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: pick of the litter just because he saw what Andrew 705 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: Luck and Paying Manning did for him at one overall, 706 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: so he wants to say, hey, Chris, let's just go up. 707 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: We're tired of the veteran retreads. Let's just go get 708 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 1: our guy. Go get your top rank guy on the board. Now. 709 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: I want to I want to dive real quickly outside 710 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, just because when you draft a guy, you 711 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: need weapons around him. When you look at position groups, 712 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: whether that be running back, wide receiver, tight end, where 713 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: do you think the most value is in this draft? 714 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: Because it seems like the last handful it's been wide 715 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: receiver heavy. This year, it seems like maybe they're a 716 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: little down. Not necessarily a worst group, just not as 717 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: heavy at the top. Yeah. So we've been really spoiled 718 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: with really good wide receiver classes over the past few years. 719 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: We've seen guys go top five, top ten, like Jamar 720 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: chasing the great class last year with Garrett Wilson, christ 721 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: Olive and Jamison Williams going at the top and Drake 722 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: London too, all those guys going inside of the top twelve. Now, 723 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: there isn't that type of guy. There isn't that bona 724 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: fide wide receiver, one that you know is going to 725 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: be a superstar walking through the door. But if you're 726 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 1: looking for a bunch of complimentary second wide receivers that 727 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: eventually possibly could be that number one, this is the 728 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: draft class for that. So I think I don't know 729 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: if we're gonna see one going inside of the top twelve, 730 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: but inside of the top fifteen, I think that's where 731 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: the run could start. And then also tight end, I 732 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: think tight end is the deepest position group of any 733 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: this class. Yeah, I think we could see as many 734 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: as six or seven going side of the top two rounds. 735 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: How many how many are true able to block tight ends. 736 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: So Darniell Washington I think he's the best blocker of 737 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: the group just because how he was utilized at Georgia. 738 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: Dawton Kincaide is not. Luke Musgrave can spurts outside of that. 739 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: Tucker Craft, I think he's a little bit more versatile. 740 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: How many how many teams prioritize that still really make 741 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: that It really just depends just because you're gonna roster 742 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: two to three tight ends, so it's kind of like 743 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna use them kind of like a basketball team. 744 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: You have your blocker, you have your pass catcher, and 745 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: then you have your third one can do a little 746 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: bit of both, So you really want to package all 747 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: those guys together, and it really just depends on what 748 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: you have on the roster. Like for the Colts, they 749 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: have somebody like a Gilannie Woods who can block and 750 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: then also be a pass catcher. Two. So now you 751 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: can afford to take that guy who you want as 752 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: an inline blocker, or you can get your true what 753 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: I like to call f tight end that you can 754 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: move around a little bit. Going back to last year's draft, 755 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: remember the name Andrew Ogletree out of the Youngstown State. 756 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, just a terrible thing for him tearing his 757 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 1: ACL there in training camp when he was just really 758 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: on the come and the ascend, and it look like 759 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: he was actually ahead of the time of Jelanti Woods 760 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: in terms of progress and adaptation to the NFL. How 761 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,959 Speaker 1: much translation do you still think he has to the NFL. 762 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm from a small school. Yeah, that's the tough part, 763 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 1: especially when you're talking about small school guys. The level 764 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: of competition. It's a big jump for them. So it's 765 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: kind of like whoa, It's much faster than what I'm 766 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: accustomed to seeing. So but as he gains reps, as 767 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: he gets healthy, I think will continue to get better. 768 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: All right. For you take me back to last year. 769 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: How much college football do you consume during the fall? 770 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,280 Speaker 1: So during the season, I'm actually on the road every weekend. 771 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: I'm live scouting, so I mainly stay in the Southeast 772 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 1: the most part. So I'm based in Charlotte, so I'm 773 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: going from a SEC games to ACC games. Don't going 774 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: to back and forth. So that's what I do during 775 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: the year, and then during the week I'll get the 776 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,120 Speaker 1: coaches film of all the games I have guys by 777 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,640 Speaker 1: positions that I'll I'll go through and I'll write up 778 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: and then I'll just do that pretty much from August 779 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: all way through December. So that's what the back end 780 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 1: of the year consists of me. But the live scouting 781 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: so much fun, just getting being able to experience different 782 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,879 Speaker 1: stadiums around the country, like I was at Alabama, Tennessee 783 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 1: when that game happens. Just being able to experience things 784 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 1: like that, seeing guys up closest. I'm living the dream man. 785 00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: That's that's the great part about this job, seeing guys 786 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: up close and then just seeing them transform from August 787 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: now here to the combine. And I always heard like 788 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 1: when you watch film, and when that's your job, when 789 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: that's your livelihood. When you watch film, you can watch 790 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: it start to finish, rewind it, you know, watch the 791 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: play several times, and then come back five days later, 792 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: watch the same film and you see something different, yeah, right, 793 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: or you see it you see it from a different perspective. Yeah, 794 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 1: that's the best part about this job. We're all watching 795 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: the same thing, but we have a million different And 796 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: always compare scouting to buying a car. So August through December, 797 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: you're seeing the exterior of the car, and you can 798 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,839 Speaker 1: go back, you can look online, you can scroll all 799 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: the pictures. But now the Combine and then eventually to 800 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 1: the Draft. You're going to the dealership, you're seeing the 801 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 1: interior of the car, you're lifting the hood up, you're 802 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,279 Speaker 1: seeing the engine. Just the mental makeup of these guys 803 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: and then also the athleticism. So it's kind of like 804 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: buying and invested in the car. And then you see 805 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: that coffee staying on the back sheet, leather is a 806 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: little bit or they put like a little napkin over 807 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: that picture, and then you've been a wait a minute, 808 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: how did that get there? Right? I love it? Man. Well, 809 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. We always enjoy 810 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: talking with you. This is one of our favorite stops 811 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: here at the Combine. Best of luck with everything and 812 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of your stay here in Indie. Absolutely, 813 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: thank you guys. Always fantastic conversation. Right there again, that's 814 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: Jordan Reed from ESPN, one of the best here on 815 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: radio road talking up the Draft, and he's at the 816 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 1: Combine every year. You can check him out and the 817 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: rest of our guests. This week on the Colts Audio Network, 818 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: he closed down I love that that analogy that us 819 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense when you think about it. I mean, 820 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,360 Speaker 1: how many times do we thumb through pictures online of 821 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: a house or a car. We're all guilty of buying 822 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: something stupid on Amazon. We don't really fully understand the 823 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: dimensions of it, like and then we get it in 824 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: the mail. It's either too small or too big. That's 825 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: what this combine is for, to make sure we figure 826 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: out what's real and what's not. Some shiny object is 827 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 1: exactly what we think it is. I mean, we've all, 828 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it. We I'm guilty of this. 829 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: We use my wife and I use Facebook marketplace to 830 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: sell a bunch of things, and you make sure you 831 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,839 Speaker 1: take pictures of the good side of things so that 832 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: you can be put skip or ten dog in the 833 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,040 Speaker 1: back it's right. And then and then whenever you show 834 00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 1: it to them, you just make sure you slide it 835 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: or what you know, you try. That's just what happens. 836 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: And that's exactly I've allowed his analogy because that's exactly 837 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: what it is. What's your handle on Facebook marketplace to 838 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: so I know to avoid my wife's handled that's probably 839 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: if you see mine, definitely avoid it. Kinsey's more. You know, 840 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: it's probably better stuff. They're saying this live on the radio. 841 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: You're losing your family money right doing If you see 842 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: how much stuff I've actually sold, it's really I'm probably 843 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: helping ourselves instead of what are we talking about right now? 844 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: We'd like forks, I know, I know, like if I'm 845 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: not trying to used fork, Yeah, what are you doing? 846 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:37,400 Speaker 1: You used for I mean like a we are you? 847 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: What are you trying? What are you trying to pawn 848 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: off on people? When are kilverware napkins? What are we doing? 849 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: My kids went from a twin bed to a full 850 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: bed and we sold their beds. They might have a 851 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,479 Speaker 1: couple of nicks because if I'm playing something together, it's 852 00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: not going to be put together. Also missing like five 853 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: screws exactly, especially when I take it apart too. So 854 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: that's why when I sell, that kind of says not 855 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,359 Speaker 1: the analogy that Jordan Reed was going. No, no, it 856 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,000 Speaker 1: wasn't your or way off way off base. But you 857 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 1: can check out Jordan Read and the rest of our guests. 858 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,399 Speaker 1: I mean, good gosh, we were loaded up this week. 859 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: We had Dane Brugler from the Athletic We had Mike Tannenbaum, 860 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 1: Dan Graziano from ESPN, Jim Nage from the Senior Bowl. 861 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: We spoke with Charles Davis, Mark Ross, Cynthia Freeland from 862 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,479 Speaker 1: NFL Network, all the voices from around the AFC South 863 00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: and many morris to check all of that out. Also, 864 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:28,080 Speaker 1: our Free Agent Tracker podcast series that continued this week, 865 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: we examine the free agent profiles of Brandon Facon and 866 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 1: Ronnie McLeod. We also talked about Matt Hawk and Chase 867 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 1: McLoughlin on the special team side of things. So again 868 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: that is all available for you right now. Check it 869 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: out Colts dot Com, the Colts Mobile app, and of 870 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: course the Colts Audio Network anywhere you download your podcast. 871 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 1: This is the Last Word brought to you by FanDuel 872 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: and FanDuel Sports Book. Download the app today, Make every 873 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: moment more. Ron Radio Row, JJ Stangovitz, Casey Valley. I'm 874 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor filling in for Jeffrey Gorman tonight. He's out 875 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 1: and about when we come back, we're back for one 876 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,760 Speaker 1: final time. We'll give you the Forum Credit Union question 877 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 1: of the Week, and we'll also discuss Shane steike In 878 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: maybe not being able to employ one of his favorite 879 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,240 Speaker 1: plays in his arsenal. That's the third down, the fourth 880 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: down rugby style play with the quarterback sneak. That's under 881 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: scrutiny this week here at the Combines. So we'll talk 882 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: about that when we come back for the final time 883 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: with you until seven o'clock tonight on the Last Word. 884 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: We're back in a moment here on ninety three five 885 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:34,400 Speaker 1: and one oh seven five the Fan. We now return 886 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: to the offseason radio home of the Indianapolis Colts, the 887 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: Last Word from the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio. 888 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: We're back for the final time here on Radio Row 889 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: here on the fan, ninety three five, one oh seven five. 890 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: This is the Last Word, the offseason home of the Colts. 891 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: Were on Radio Row here at the Combine with Casey Valley. 892 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,399 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor, JJ Stankovitz along for the journey as 893 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: well tonight. Know Jeffrey Gorman, Otis Redding bringing us back 894 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,040 Speaker 1: in right there. That's the happy song. I hope you're 895 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: having a happy Friday night, happy weekend leading into what 896 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: hopefully is a weatherwise, you know, something that dries up 897 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,439 Speaker 1: a little bit, because my gosh, it's been raining now. 898 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: I feel like this is that that that's scene from 899 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: Forrest Gump. You know, rain is coming in sideways up 900 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: down in Indianapolis. Now was my sump? Pump? Yeah, listen, 901 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,280 Speaker 1: it's real right now, it's real. Hopefully that basement stays 902 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: dry for sure. All right, we're up. Brought to you 903 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,279 Speaker 1: by FanDuel Sports Book. Download the app today, of course, 904 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: make every moment more. It's time now, fellas for the 905 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,360 Speaker 1: Forum Credit Union Question of the Week. So the combines 906 00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: in town and if you're on radio row, I know 907 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: this is a audio medium, but earlier this week, every 908 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,600 Speaker 1: team is here. Every team's got their digital department where 909 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: they're doing radio shows and podcasts just like we are. 910 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,200 Speaker 1: So it's kind of like the United Nations of the NFL. 911 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: You see all the flags and all the banners up, 912 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: so it's kind of cool. So me thinking of all 913 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 1: the teams in the NFL, how many teams in the 914 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,719 Speaker 1: league have never appeared in a Super Bowl? That's the 915 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: Forum Credit Union question of the week. Thirty two teams. 916 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,319 Speaker 1: How many have never even appeared in the Big Game. 917 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 1: I think I think I actually know this one. I 918 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:18,759 Speaker 1: think that two of them are in art division. I 919 00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: think the Jaguars would be correct, and the Texans correct. Yeah, 920 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, Lions, and they're still here. They're right 921 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: over there. If you want to go talk some smack, 922 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: let them know, just in case they forgot. Oh maybe 923 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: I don't. You said it was four, so even more more, Well, 924 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 1: it's gotta be. It's gotta be a recent expansion team probably, Uh, yes, 925 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: yes and no, yes and no. Is it the Browns? 926 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 1: There's your hint. Yes it's the Cleveland Browns, right, so, 927 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,320 Speaker 1: yes and no on that. So you've got the Browns, 928 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,319 Speaker 1: the Lions, the Texans, and the Jaguars. Now eight have 929 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: played in the Super Bowl but have never won it. 930 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: Those teams would be the Vikings. They lost in the 931 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl four times. Man, the Bills of course four times. 932 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: We know all about that, The Bengals twice, Carolina twice. 933 00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:10,240 Speaker 1: The Falcons have lost it twice. Los Angeles Chargers lost 934 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: it once. That was the Steve Young forty nine er 935 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,080 Speaker 1: big game against the Chargers. The Titans lost it once. 936 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: That was that excruciating loss to who they so close 937 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 1: there at the end. And then the Arizona Cardinals lost 938 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, to the Steelers. Yeah, Holmes James 939 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 1: Harrison had the yard pick six And yeah, so all right, 940 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,479 Speaker 1: like you said, two of those teams that have never 941 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,080 Speaker 1: played in the Super Bowl are from the AFC South. 942 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: And we talked with all the voices inside the division 943 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,120 Speaker 1: this week and fellas the consensus is the Jacksonville Jaguars 944 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: are here to stay. They seem to have the most 945 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: buzz and the most promising roster right now with all 946 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: the teams inside the division, everybody else sort of having 947 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: these big offseason questions, including the cold, so it appears 948 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: like the Jacksonville Jaguars when you talk to a lot 949 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: of people here at the combine, JJ have the most 950 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: stability at the moment, which is crazy to say because 951 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: a year ago, sitting right here in this space, they 952 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 1: were the Jacksonville Jaguars as we knew them to be, 953 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: but no longer here. Yeah. I stepped into Trent Balky's 954 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,399 Speaker 1: press conference here, their general manager, and what he said, 955 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,520 Speaker 1: and that was that previously they've had to play in 956 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: the deep end of the free agency pool because they've 957 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: had money and they've had roster needs. But now they 958 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: are into that phase of roster development where it is 959 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: about draft and develop and accentuating the roster with young 960 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: players who are ascending, and that is a place. If 961 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 1: they can continue to do that, they are going to 962 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 1: continue to be the team to beat in this division, 963 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: not just in twenty twenty three, but it might be 964 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: for a little while longer. With Trevor Lawrence going into 965 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: his third year, they got some other young pieces on 966 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,919 Speaker 1: that roster. Yeah, and you're right mate, everyone he talked 967 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 1: to around here, it is the Jaguars and a large 968 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:00,160 Speaker 1: gap between everyone else in the division right now. But 969 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: that's one of the things that I like. It can 970 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: close fast, can closed. I mean, as we talk, hears 971 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: the first baby Jacksonville was right here last year, and 972 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 1: you look at the other three teams, there's a there's 973 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,279 Speaker 1: a toss up. I mean, who's to say that you 974 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 1: can't have a really good offseason and climb right back anything. 975 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: So it can happen quick in the NFL. There you go. 976 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 1: That's the Forum credit Union question of the Week. Visit 977 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: the Forum credit Union fan forum section of Colts dot com. 978 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 1: There you can interact with other fans online and post 979 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 1: a topic and participate in a lot of discussions regarding 980 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: the Colts Forum credit Union, helping members live their financial dreams. 981 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: Last words always brought to you by Meyer as well, 982 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 1: the official supercenter of the Colts and proud sponsor of 983 00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: hundreds of local sports teams from across the bed West. 984 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the NFL big story. I don't know 985 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: if it's the biggest story here at the Combine, but 986 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: I like it, so I'm making it the big story 987 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: because it does pertain to the Colts, because it does 988 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,880 Speaker 1: surround Shane Steike in a little bit. The NFL Competition 989 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,839 Speaker 1: Committee they always meet in indeed during the Combine week, 990 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: and they're considering out lulling the quarterback sneak play where 991 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: the offensive linemen and the running backs behind the quarterback. 992 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: In this case, Jalen Hurts Shane Styke and kind of 993 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 1: made it famous last year. Uh, push the quarterback up 994 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,319 Speaker 1: the field on that quarterback sneak play? What's it called? 995 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,279 Speaker 1: What's it being referred to by Kalen Kayler of The 996 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: Athletic who's done a lot of really interesting reporting on this. 997 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,240 Speaker 1: She called it the two cheeks sneak. I'll like it. 998 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: I like it. That's a that's a lot better than 999 00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: the bush push back in the day. Right, Well, the 1000 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: Bush push was illegal. This isn't. This isn't this is 1001 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: currently this is in the well. That's that's the debate here. 1002 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: So Shane Styke and and Nick Sirianni, they used it 1003 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: to their advantage a ton. Last year. Jalen Hurts ran 1004 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: the ball forty three times and third and one, fourth 1005 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: and one situations and converted first downs on those plays 1006 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: on thirty seven of those situations, including eight touchdowns. They 1007 00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: ran the play five times in the Super Bowl, converted 1008 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,239 Speaker 1: all five, including the game tying touchdown there in the 1009 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. We all remember that, but it's been legal 1010 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: since two thousand and five. JJ. Should the play be 1011 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 1: taken out of the NFL? Absolutely not. Shane Stekin' is 1012 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: the head coach of the Colts out Absolutely not. Honestly, 1013 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,720 Speaker 1: I would say that if he was still the offensive 1014 00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,240 Speaker 1: coordinator in Philly. Listen, listen the NFL. There are certain 1015 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: things that happen in the NFL that you know, it's 1016 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: the it's the brand new, shiny thing, and then defense 1017 00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,120 Speaker 1: has learned to adjust. So how our defense is going 1018 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 1: to adjust to this if it's if it remains legal, 1019 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:32,560 Speaker 1: how what's the adjustment to the adjustment? Is it running 1020 00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 1: pitch plays more often out off of the two cheeks sneak. 1021 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,640 Speaker 1: I can't. Honestly, this adds like a little level of stranded. 1022 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 1: This wasn't a football show. You might you might confuse that. Yeah, 1023 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it, keep it, keep it 1024 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:49,919 Speaker 1: and yeah, not just because Shane Stekin is the Colts 1025 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 1: head coach, but mostly because Shane Stekin is a Colts 1026 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 1: head coach. You're keeping it in. I'm keeping it in. Um, 1027 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: I do agree. I mean, I understand it's all about 1028 00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: safety and it's essentially like a rugby scrum and it 1029 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: can be dangerous. I get that, but it's one of 1030 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,839 Speaker 1: those things that you got to tip your cap. Like 1031 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: we saw it when Philadelphia was here. Everybody in the 1032 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 1: building knows the play, everybody knows what's going to happen, 1033 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 1: and you're successful on it. So, especially knowing that Shane 1034 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: Steikin's under our sidelines, now I'm all for it for sure. 1035 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. Even if it does get taken out 1036 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,960 Speaker 1: of the game, I hope Shane Steikin's philosophy on third 1037 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,880 Speaker 1: and short and fourth and short remains the same because 1038 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 1: football is not a hard game. I think oftentimes we 1039 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 1: over complicate football. And I understand you can run play 1040 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: action off of it and scheme and take advantage because 1041 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,320 Speaker 1: you show it on tape because you do it so often. 1042 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: So there's that element of it too. But I think, 1043 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: just big picture, one of my biggest football pet peeves 1044 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: is third and short, fourth and short and you line 1045 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 1: up in shotgun because you're not trying to get one 1046 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: yard or two feet or energies and some now you 1047 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,320 Speaker 1: got to get six yards. Yeah, right, don't overcomplicate the game. 1048 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 1: It's why lineup under center turn hand off to a 1049 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 1: running back when the entire defensive line is submarining the 1050 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: offensive line trying to create a pile taken away those 1051 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,920 Speaker 1: running alleys. So regardless of what happens with this, I 1052 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,520 Speaker 1: hope Shane Steken continues to just oversimplify the game because 1053 00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: it's not that hard. The probability of getting one yard 1054 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 1: or one foot with a quarterback sneak is really high. 1055 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,720 Speaker 1: So we'll see how that translates here with the Colts. 1056 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,560 Speaker 1: And that's one thing I want to talk about with 1057 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: Shane Stiken. He took something and said we can take 1058 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 1: this and run with it. So I like that mentality. 1059 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: If HiT's saying, you know, if it's if it's in 1060 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,640 Speaker 1: the framework of the rules, we're gonna do it. So 1061 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that let's say this rule gets changed, 1062 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: she's gonna go, okay, if that's what we can't do. 1063 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: But this is what we can do. Let's emphasize this 1064 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:49,640 Speaker 1: and do that. I love it because it's a very 1065 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: creative way of getting yardage that's incredibly simple. Yes, do 1066 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 1: not overcomplicate the game. It's always good to end the 1067 00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: conversation on Radio Row with the topic that ends in 1068 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: cheek okay, So anytime we can do that, I feel 1069 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: like we had a successful week here. J J. Stangovitz, 1070 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,680 Speaker 1: Casey Valley, JJ, what are you doing this weekend? Man, 1071 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,680 Speaker 1: celebrating the fact that you don't have to come here 1072 00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: on Radio Row anymore. No, I'm not celebrating that because 1073 00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: I love this week. I love getting to talk to 1074 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,759 Speaker 1: so many people. Your your turkey sandwich days are over. Yeah, 1075 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,359 Speaker 1: I'll I'm looking forward to eating a better lunch. But 1076 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: I mean, actually, no, I should say the lunch here 1077 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: has been fantastic compared to previous really stopped through the game. Yeah, No, weekend, 1078 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: I'm still going to write an article on coltstot com. 1079 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 1: Had a chance to catch up with Jalen Wayne. You 1080 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 1: might recognize that last name. He's a wide receiver from 1081 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,880 Speaker 1: South Alabama who is Reggie Wayne's cousin. Okay, calls him 1082 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,120 Speaker 1: uncle because Reggie's quote a lot older than I am, 1083 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 1: and he wanted you wanted to make sure that made 1084 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: it into the story. Fantastic. Uh. And yeah, just about 1085 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: learning from you know, wide receiver, young wide receiver, learning 1086 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,320 Speaker 1: from Reggie Wayne about how to go about this process, 1087 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,239 Speaker 1: little details in his game. I thought it was really interesting. Um, 1088 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 1: you know, it seems like a really good kid looking 1089 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,480 Speaker 1: forward to seeing what his professional journey becomes. Uh. And 1090 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 1: the hand that Reggie Wayne is having it already fantastic. 1091 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: Check that out on colts dot com later on this weekend. 1092 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:09,200 Speaker 1: That's j J. Stangot's case. What are you getting into. 1093 00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: It's my wife's birthday on Sunday, so it's kind of 1094 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: her weekend. So whatever she decides to do. Facebook Marketplace, 1095 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome. Facebook market makes some extra dough 1096 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: so you can take her out to dinner. You can 1097 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 1: you can sell your fridge that's broken. You just don't 1098 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: tell anybody. Fantastic guys. I really enjoyed it. Great job 1099 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 1: all week long with the podcasts and the interviews and 1100 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,160 Speaker 1: all the insiders we had here on Radio roagain. Check 1101 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: those out on the Colts Audio network feed wherever you 1102 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 1: get your podcasts, and of course on Colts dot com 1103 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: as well. For JJ Casey, I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for listening. 1104 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: This is the last word the offseason radio home of 1105 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. We'll do it again next Friday, as 1106 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: we get in the last word here in the Home 1107 00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,239 Speaker 1: of the Colts ninety three five and one oh seven 1108 00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:24,240 Speaker 1: five the fan have a great weekend. Bitter Bitter,