1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites the podcast presented by BET. 2 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 2: Three sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. 3 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: I am Chaddelman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network. 4 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: Today is our week eleven, Thursday NFL episode. 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I know Simon doesn't like 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: it when I say, let's not dilly dally, but it 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: is time for Shark. 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 3: Hello, who's there. I'm talking Rain Rain telephone range. 59 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 2: Somebody's saying, maybe what you do. 60 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 3: Man, this week is brutal. I feel like it's another 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 3: week of like I thought everyone would be on the 62 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 3: same side, and I'll start with the games. I got 63 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 3: pushedback on. I got some pushback on I like Washington. 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 3: I got some pros that they like the Giants. I'm 65 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: not seeing it like I think their pushback is like, well, 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 3: look how they played earlier in the season. They played 67 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 3: a really tough, close game. I feel like these are 68 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,119 Speaker 3: two different teams at this point right on. One team 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 3: has been going one way, the other teams going another way, 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 3: and the confidence of both these teams are different. So 71 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: I am shocked that they like this number and they 72 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 3: bet it down as well, Like maybe they only liked 73 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: it at ten and now they don't like it. Now 74 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 3: that's moved off and it's down day and a half 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: for a lot of books. But this is interesting because 76 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: I really didn't think anyone was gonna be on the Giants, 77 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: and a shocking amount of guys I've talked to like 78 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 3: the Giants. Same goes for the Houston Texans. You know, 79 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: I like Arizona. I like thereson a number. I still 80 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: like it. Talked to whole bunch of guys. They like Houston, 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 3: they liked the number. They they were happy it was 82 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: coming down, and they hit it again and now it's 83 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 3: going back up at a couple of books. I'm surprised 84 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 3: by it. I am if I said to them, it 85 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: feels like they're buying high in Houston. Their argument is 86 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: against Kyler and this Arizona team coming off a win, 87 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: and I think they're just viewing it wrong. So that's 88 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 3: another one we're definitely gonna dive into more. But yeah, 89 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 3: for for agreeance, it's been it was an easy week. 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 3: Me and Chad talked, thought we had a lot of 91 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 3: picks we liked. The boys are on the same thing 92 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 3: like the guys they like Denver. You know, no shock there. 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 3: We're gonna break that one down even more. But you've 94 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 3: seen that number move now, so I think I got 95 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 3: down to one and a half. We talked about it 96 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 3: at two one and a half. Now almost every book 97 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: is two and a half sou. 98 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 2: And head into three. 99 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so not nut shocking. That's pros versus shows. The 100 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: public is going to be on. The Vikings are a 101 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: fun story. Yeah, I can't. I can't. I can't knock 102 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: them forward. Even if we lose that bet, it's still 103 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 3: when that me and Chad have to make. And now 104 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 3: it's giving me more confident than making one over five 105 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 3: putting Denver in there, So that's definitely game we're gonna 106 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: go over. Yeah, the Pros love Carolina Panthers. Another game 107 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 3: we need to break down more. You know it's just 108 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 3: another game that it's gonna be all public money on 109 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: the Cowboys and it's only gonna be professional money on 110 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 3: the Panthers. Like that game really sticks out. I can't 111 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: even bring it up, but I mean it. I'm still 112 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: gonna bet it. I'll still be on the Eagles, but 113 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 3: I don't think I'll be one of me and Chad's five. 114 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 3: Gotten a lot of pushback on it, a lot of 115 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 3: a lot of the pros loving the Chiefs, and I 116 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,480 Speaker 3: think it's like the numbers even gave us right. They 117 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: love those trend numbers. They love the Andy Reid numbers 118 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 3: after a bye. They love Andy Reid on extended rest. 119 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: They love my homes on three, which they were betting 120 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 3: for four days and you could still get to and 121 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,280 Speaker 3: a half if you want. I just I mean again, 122 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 3: we'll break it down. I just there's just something about 123 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 3: this game. The fact that this was Jalen Hurts's lock screen, 124 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 3: was that confetti from that Super Bowl all off season, 125 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 3: and I just think it's the human element of the Eagles. 126 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: Been looking and thinking about this game all off season, 127 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 3: and man, it's shocking that guys are like putting, you know, 128 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 3: a decent amount of money into this Chiefs team. I 129 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 3: just feel like this is a bad spot for them. 130 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: So I'm pretty interesting to hear all the professionals on 131 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: that one. And yeah, for the last one before we 132 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: break down all these games, I'm hoping he took the 133 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: ten on the Bears. The pros loved it. They've come in, 134 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 3: they've betted down now to seven and a half despite 135 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 3: all the money, all the tickets, all the bets are 136 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,679 Speaker 3: coming in on the lines, and you've seen that number 137 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 3: now drop from ten to seven and a half. Might 138 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: keep dropping, like I would grab it, even if you're 139 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 3: just you're still like you're still a little scared, and 140 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 3: you're like, I don't know if I want to bet 141 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 3: against this Lions team. Come on, guys, the numbers dictating 142 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 3: if you check, give you all the numbers about these 143 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: divisional dogs, and the professionals like it. Now, you're not 144 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: gonna be get that as good as a number as 145 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: the professionals. And that stinks, But that's the way it goes, right. 146 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 3: I Mean, we're me and chatter in the same boat. 147 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: We're not gonna have that good number in our contest. 148 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: That that number is gone. But I still think seven 149 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 3: and a half still still showing value, so not too 150 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 3: shocking here. The boys love that one. It's come down 151 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: now one more big favorite. I will say, I love Miami. 152 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: It's there's some pros on it, but it's not unanimous, right, 153 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 3: It's not everyone's just piling on this big favorite. And 154 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 3: I thought it would be between all the professionals, but 155 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 3: talk to a couple guys who like it. Whether it's 156 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 3: been a couple people have no opinion on that Raiders game. 157 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, that's definitely an interesting game. We've seen that 158 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 3: Miami number move from eleven and a half on Tuesday 159 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 3: up to thirteen and a half now on Thursday. So 160 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 3: definitely a lot of conversations this week about these big favorites. 161 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: Fascinating, fascinating, fascinating. This is the science of betting right now, 162 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 1: because so much of what you just said in your 163 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: breakdown of the sharp calls are the notes that I 164 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: put into our script for each game, down to which 165 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: we're going to put in our five do we still 166 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: like a big number that moved? And also like we'll 167 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: dive into all of it. It's a crazy interesting week. 168 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 1: As a reminder, catch every episode of the Favorites live 169 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: on YouTube. For those enjoying on YouTube, don't forget to 170 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: give us a like. Subscribe to the Action Network YouTube page. 171 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: Let's start narrowing down our games. We got to get 172 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: to the foxhol we got to get to Survivor, we 173 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: got to get to the big Balls bet of the week. 174 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: Some so much movement since we spoke on Tuesday, including 175 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: with so many of the games that we liked. So 176 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna review the ones that we talked about the most. 177 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 2: I expect that. 178 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: Our menu of games that we talked about on Tuesday 179 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: and loved is going to expand because the movement has 180 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: been so aggressive. The first game up it's aligned with 181 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: this question. Mitchell pulled some of the data from the 182 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: week eleven contest entry so far, can you guess the 183 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: most picked team so far? 184 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 3: I would hope it's our our loyal listeners took Pittsburgh, 185 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 3: but I'm not sure Miami. So they listened. 186 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: By the way, it's our loyal listeners. 187 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: They listened to you, clearly they listened to me. It's 188 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: more than two times the next closest pick. So let's 189 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: talk about Miami for a second. Because we loved this 190 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: game on Tuesday and it's. 191 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,199 Speaker 3: Our most public bet of the week, probably right. 192 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: We loved it on Tuesdays eleven and a half or twelve. 193 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: It was the rare double digit favorite that we were 194 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: willing to bet, willing to take. It went up to twelve, 195 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: it went up to twelve and a half. You were like, 196 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: when he gets at thirteen, you got to stop. Now 197 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: it's at thirteen and a half, so it's a tough one. 198 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 3: I don't think in the. 199 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: Contest at thirteen and a half, we're going to want 200 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: this one. 201 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: I know. And that's what stinks. It's moved so much, 202 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 3: but I just said it, it's like professional money came in. 203 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 3: I kind of thought they were going through just because 204 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 3: I love the number so much. I'm not the biggest, 205 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 3: big favorite better, but there's just certain teams on certain 206 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: seasons that I just like riding as big favorites, and 207 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 3: Miami's that team where it's like they got the horsepower, 208 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 3: like they got the dogs on the outside to get 209 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: those kind of points, and defensively they got the guys 210 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 3: to get the stops. Like big deal Ramsey coming back. 211 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: I know it's gonna take them a mint to get 212 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: back into form, but we talk all the time. When 213 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 3: you have a cornerback that can shut down half the field, 214 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 3: it can totally can change a whole defense. It really 215 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 3: is such a big deal getting that number one shut 216 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: down corner. So yeah, it's it's a nice spot for Miami. 217 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 3: We talked Miami at home to at home tends to 218 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: perform well in these spots. Thirteen and a half is 219 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,640 Speaker 3: a big number, But I'm gonna do my best not 220 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 3: to let it scare it off and join the fancier 221 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 3: on this one. I just an O'Connell might be able 222 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,079 Speaker 3: to put up some points and maybe we'll be able 223 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 3: to run the ball and get the fourteen year twenty one. 224 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 3: But I could see Miami getting way past that. Right. 225 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 3: It just feels like this kind of game they could 226 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,719 Speaker 3: explode in where you're facing against a Raiders team that 227 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 3: they would just beat up on two of the worst 228 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 3: quarterbacks in all football with their interim head coach. Yeah, 229 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: great story from the Raiders. They got really lucky last week, right, 230 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 3: We already talked about the Jets had a touchdown taking 231 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 3: off the board that would have changed the whole outlook 232 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 3: of that game. So nice to see the professionals and 233 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 3: the public aren't buying that the Raiders, you know, lucky 234 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: wins here. And yeah, the fact that this number now 235 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 3: has moved scares me a little. But here's a nice 236 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 3: stat from Evan Tua eight no straight up six and 237 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 3: two ats of a favor of seven or more so 238 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 3: to has performed well is a big favorite. And yeah, 239 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 3: I just I'm trying to think of ways this could 240 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: go wrong and we'd have to have some bad turnover, 241 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: luck and everything like that, but these are things you 242 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 3: can predict. So yeah, value wise, I have this number 243 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: of fourteen, So yes, we're only half a point of value. 244 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: Nothing crazy like this wouldn't be one of my bigger 245 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: bets at this number, just because the value has shifted 246 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 3: so much, but it's still pun in contest. If we're 247 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: having a tough time getting our fifth one in there, 248 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: I wouldn't hate putting this one in. Like of all 249 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 3: the big favorites, this is my favorite one this week. 250 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: But look, I keep thinking about that Carolina game that 251 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: Miami had where they were down fourteen to nothing in 252 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: the first quarter and by the the first half they 253 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: were thirty five to fourteen or something like that, and 254 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: betting on Miami neck game Yeah, they just run over 255 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 1: these teams. They run over these teams, and they're playing 256 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: at home. This Raiders team is not good. People should 257 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: not be buying into anything that's happened in the past two games. 258 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: They're just they're a terrible team experiencing some huge momentum 259 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 1: against really bad teams. Like as I talk about it, 260 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: I feel more and more confident about this Miami game. 261 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 3: It's hard not to. 262 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 4: Shic cargo, hic cago, that Toddle in town Chicago, Chicago, 263 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 4: I will show you around. 264 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: I love it. 265 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: On Sunday night, I said to you, I kind of 266 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: like the Bears at a big number. I wasn't joking 267 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: about it. You were kind of with me. By Tuesday, 268 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: we were both all in on the Bears at plus ten. 269 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: I debated making it my executive decision game before I 270 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: decided to make the Steelers my executive decision game. The 271 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: number is now down to seven and a half. You know, 272 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: we'll do our YouTube exclusives, and we just recorded yesterday 273 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: a video for an educational series we're doing on YouTube 274 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: about terminology that we use here on the podcast, and 275 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: the term that we talked about was closing line value, 276 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: which basically means you want to get the best of 277 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: the number. I talk about it all the time. It's 278 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: why you got to listen to the Sunday Show because 279 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: sometimes we're betting early and we know which way the 280 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: lines are going to go. This is when we felt 281 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: the line was going to move in our direction. Closingline 282 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: value matters only when it matters, right that That was 283 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: sort of your takeaway on this. I'm not afraid of 284 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: the seven and a half in the contest. 285 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 3: I'm not either, but it's not ideal like this. This 286 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: number at ten made more sense. This is a lot 287 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: of movement for a guy that doesn't win games, and 288 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 3: he's not like he's the greatest covering quarterback either. I 289 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: mean justin Fields, he's gonna He's added to that list 290 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: of the all hype guys. Like a few people have 291 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: gotten more hype and done less with it than Justin Fields. 292 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:34,320 Speaker 3: And you know the talents there. I think I think 293 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: someone pushing some crazy stat that he is just maybe 294 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 3: he has more passing touchdowns than Trevor Lawrence at this 295 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: point of this season, and Trevor Lawrence hasn't missed any games, 296 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: so yeah, we know the talents there. We've seen these 297 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 3: moments and these flashes from Fields. Man, that's a big movement. Chad, 298 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: like three points of movement. I think he is worth it. 299 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're back up. I joked all the 300 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 3: time with Chad, like this guy was not a starter, right, 301 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 3: He's someone that need to learn the offense, he needs 302 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 3: to learn how to protect the ball, and he's gonna 303 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: have some growing pains. And Justin Fields looks the part 304 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: we compare it to him, right, You're like, no, Justin 305 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 3: Fields is one of the thirty two best quarterbacks. He 306 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 3: should be a starter, should be playing in the league. 307 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: But all the stats, that's what scares you off. I mean, 308 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 3: Evan's just flooding us with stats. Justin Fields nine twenty 309 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: one and one ats in his career. Justin Fields is 310 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 3: one in ten straight up two and nine ats versus 311 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 3: the NFC North. These are all really bad stats. This 312 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 3: dude is bad. And if you know this show and 313 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: you know Chad, we've been betting the Bears basically every 314 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: time in this spot because there's always gonna be value 315 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: on her, right, because we both think there's there's a 316 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: ton of talent with Fields, and you know this Bears team, 317 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: Say what you want about him. They're usually in all 318 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: these games right go through their schedule. It's not like 319 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 3: they're getting dominated blown out even when they had it 320 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,080 Speaker 3: back up in there. So I'll do it with Chad. 321 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 3: I'll bite it and I'll take the seven. But I 322 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: totally get it people if you're just so burned out 323 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 3: on Justin Field's experience and taking a number and then 324 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: getting burned by him because he does make stupid turnovers 325 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: and that's all part of it. But how do we 326 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: avoid this one? I'm trying to think of ways when 327 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: you avoid this, but it's it's such a big number 328 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 3: against a Lions team that, yeah, they might be put 329 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 3: the points up, but do we trust their defense not 330 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 3: to get back door? And that's the key with this 331 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 3: number here. It's like this back door should always be 332 00:16:26,640 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 3: open for us with Justin Field. So I'm getting there, 333 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 3: maybe this will be one of our five, but it's 334 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: just hard for me to swallow where it's like Evan 335 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 3: hits us with those stats, and I have to remember 336 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 3: that Justin Fields is nine and twenty one ats in 337 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 3: his career, which is just insane. 338 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: So forget about those stats for a second. Let's find 339 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: different stats to. 340 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: Nerve number one. 341 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: This game was way overinflated, and obviously the inflation has 342 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: come out of it. 343 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,640 Speaker 2: The wise guys bet the numbers. 344 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: It was gone ten like in the last forty hours, 345 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: has gone from ten to seven and a half. It's 346 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: nearly going from one key number to another key number, 347 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: and it'll probably get to seven. Don't forget home teams 348 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 1: in the division since twenty fifteen, which is the lines 349 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: in this case, cover against the spread at a forty 350 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,360 Speaker 1: seven percent rate. Home favorites in the division since twenty 351 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: fifteen only covered a forty five percent rate. Division dogs 352 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: the past twenty years ninety games over five hundred against 353 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: the spread. Okay, so we're in a good spot here 354 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 1: with the Bears, and I know what you're saying. I 355 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: know it's scary. I know it's something where we've been 356 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: burned in the past because of justin fields. But there's 357 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: a lot of evidence. It's the same thing we talked 358 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: about with the Browns last week. There's a lot of 359 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: evidence here is that says take the road dog at 360 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: a big number. 361 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: It used to be a big number, now it's kind 362 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 3: of big. 363 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: Over a touchdown is still relatively big. 364 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 3: Not for the Bears though, But yeah, I'm with you. 365 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,400 Speaker 3: I still think it's too high. I'm with Chad on him. Yeah, 366 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: eight and a half. I would have felt so much 367 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 3: better at putting this in the contest. 368 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 1: That's what, listen, It's what makes the contest hard and 369 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: what makes doing well in the contest so much more remarkable, right, Like, 370 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: it is just not easy to find five games that 371 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 1: you feel confident about like that every week. 372 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: It's really really hard to do this sick time, Pittsburgh 373 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 2: at Cleveland. 374 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: This ended up being your assignment, says was Miami. My 375 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: executive decision was Pittsburgh. We talked about this game last Sunday. 376 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: It was at four and a half. We bettered at 377 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 1: four and a half. I liked it as my executive 378 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: decision at four. Obviously a lot to discuss here now 379 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson out, Thompson Robinson starting their bypassing PJ. 380 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 2: Walker. 381 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: The reasons I liked this game at plus four, we're 382 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: about Pittsburgh's playmakers on defense, three guys who graded out 383 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: as the as top twenty edge rushers according to Pro 384 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: Football Focus. Every time you turn on the television in 385 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: the second half. These guys are making plays. They keep 386 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 1: the Steelers in the game. We know it's not Kenny Pickett. 387 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: We know it's not the offense. It's about what this 388 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: defense does to make plays. So the line obviously is 389 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: now down to plus one. I will not middle this game, Simon, 390 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 1: There's no middling. The same stats still apply for the 391 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: Steelers that applied for the Bears as sort of the 392 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: road team and division games. I don't think we can 393 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: put it in the contest that whatever it's going to be, 394 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a plus one plus a half whatever. 395 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: It's a pass completely for me at this number. 396 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 3: Not for me. I still love Pittsburgh. Yeah. The craziest 397 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 3: thing to me though, again, media is the weirdest shit ever. 398 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: What these people pick and choose what stories to run with. Okay, 399 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 3: so we just had what was the exact injury to Watson? 400 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 3: Do you know the exact injury with what happened to 401 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 3: him Chad shoulder injury? Yes, and you know what he 402 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 3: did to his shoulder fracture, right, So this man went 403 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 3: into the locker room, got a ton of drugs, came 404 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 3: back on when fourteen for fourteen passing, and won a game. 405 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: High as a kite. No one's talking about. Everyone's talk 406 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 3: about how tough he is. And also there's shit, It's like, dude, 407 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 3: this dude was high as shit, loose as hell. I mean, 408 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: he should do that for the rest of his career, 409 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,919 Speaker 3: Like if that's the miracle drug for him. Where it's like, 410 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: this dude just needs to get feeling good to play 411 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 3: good because that was his best half in three years. 412 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, he shit not just throwing, by the way, 413 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: he was running for first downs, he was dodging tacklers. 414 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 3: Oh, if go back and watch it. I watched it. 415 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: You can clearly tell this man is on something, okay, 416 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: cause it's like it doesn't make sense. This man's taking 417 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 3: hits and he's getting right back up and it's all good. 418 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: And I just love that knowing the media touch on 419 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 3: They're like, how tough is this Deshaun Watson? How gritty 420 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 3: is this guy coming back? It's like, oh my god, 421 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: oh my god, everyone's bearing the lead here. This dude 422 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: was crazy high and somehow had a perfect half and 423 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: won an insane game. I mean yeah, like people like you, Chad, 424 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 3: whoever bet the Browns last week, you must donate half 425 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: that money to some type of charity that is not 426 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: your money. That is that's insane. That is so insane, 427 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 3: especial when you learn about his injuries. So yeah, nothing 428 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: changed from me. I have a rookie quarterback going up 429 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 3: against Tomlin and I don't have this statue in front 430 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 3: of me. Maybe Emma can find him. But I love 431 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: Tomlin against rookies. All right, hit that horn, babe, let's dance. Yeah, 432 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 3: here we go. DTR will be the thirty fourth rookie 433 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 3: quarterback to make his first start to face the Steelers 434 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 3: under Mike Tomlin. Those qbs are five and twenty eight 435 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 3: straight up with CJ one earlier this season. I think 436 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 3: they blew him out right at home. Is DTR even 437 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 3: with the type of talent that CJ is. No, you 438 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 3: know he didn't urinate down his leg. Man, that's a 439 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 3: great place to begin. We've seen DTR playing. I'm not 440 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 3: gonna fault them for it. Right, he was thrown into 441 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: a game and he just looked totally unprepared. You think 442 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 3: one week of getting or three days again first team 443 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: reps is going to help this kid before he plays 444 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh in this defense with those backups on offensive line, 445 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 3: Holy shit man, talk about a bad, bad spot for 446 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 3: this Browns team. So if I'm still getting a plus number, 447 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: I'm happy to take. And if you're scared that it's 448 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: so low, go ahead, throw it in a teaser, do 449 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 3: whatever you need a peace of mind. But I got 450 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 3: this a minus two and a half for Pittsburgh now, 451 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 3: So I'm showing a ton of value right now on 452 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: this Pittsburgh line. So Jad might not still be in 453 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 3: love with it, but maybe I can force him to 454 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: take this one. As there's still a dog right now. 455 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna flip to them being a favorite 456 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 3: by kickoff. 457 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: Yeah. 458 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is, as you're talking about it, 459 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, why would I still be in 460 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: on the Bearers and then not be in on the Steelers. 461 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 2: It's like I got to be I either got to 462 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: be in on both of them, or I can't be 463 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 2: on either of them. 464 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: The logic has to apply in both places, because the 465 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,360 Speaker 1: Steelers are actually a better team. And we're talking about 466 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 1: a Browns team that is that it's offensive line is 467 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: decimated going against a pass rushing team that is it's 468 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: actually better than the Ravens. 469 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 3: And people don't believe in Pittsburgh Chad. Yeah, people don't 470 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 3: believe in this team. I mean you'll hear every day 471 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 3: they're like they've been out gained in every single game. 472 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 3: They're the only team in the NFL to do it. 473 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 3: How are they six and three? Are there really about 474 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: to be seven and three? It's just I can't get 475 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 3: over how much people don't understand good coaching and how 476 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 3: important red zone touchdowns are. It's like, I would be 477 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: happy if I had a team that gave up five 478 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 3: hundred yards per game and my team only put up 479 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 3: two fifty, but we had three touchdowns in the red zone. 480 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 3: They only had one, Like, we're gonna win those games. 481 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what Pittsburgh does. They just they're just 482 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 3: a complete team. It's as if there's only it doesn't 483 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 3: matter how many offensive yards you get. There's a special 484 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 3: teams and a defensive unit. So yeah, Pittsburgh is a 485 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 3: team where I just can't quit them like I'm and 486 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 3: it stinks too, because it feels like I'm I'm betting 487 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: them every week and it's like, uh, you know, we 488 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 3: joke for the Russian a let, but it feels like 489 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 3: a little bit like that where it's like, I'm gonna 490 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 3: get caught by this team. I know what they are. 491 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they keep getting good spots, Like they're a 492 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 3: team that just keeps getting these randomly good spots. I 493 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 3: mean they're catching Green Bay last week after a big win. Yeah, 494 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 3: they got really lucky that the guys missed an extra point, 495 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: that's why they covered the three and a half. But 496 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 3: it's like that's that's the Pittsburgh way, Like they just 497 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 3: have these kind of bounces go their way. So yeah, 498 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 3: the fact that Cleveland's coming off such a big emotional win, 499 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 3: now they have the letdown a losing their quarterback for 500 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 3: the rest of the season. I totally get your guys 501 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 3: angle if you want to take Cleveland. I mean, they're 502 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 3: getting just about the same amount of money right now. 503 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 3: I'm looking the action app it's pretty even even with 504 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 3: the injury newsing. I think that's just because people don't 505 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 3: believe in this Pittsburgh team, right That's just how it is, Chad. 506 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,920 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna hold firm and say I do believe 507 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: in this team, and I believe them in this game. 508 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: You know what, right now are three games Miami minus 509 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: thirteen and a half Bears seven and a half in 510 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,639 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh plus one, and we're about to add one that 511 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: I know we're an agreement on. Finally, a game that 512 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: hasn't moved Dallas at Carolina Carolina plus ten and a half. 513 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 2: The wise guys like it. We liked it. 514 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: I did take a taste of the Panthers on the 515 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: money line. You can see that in the Action Network app. 516 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: All the stats for Dak is a favorite are important 517 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: and relevant, but. 518 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: I'm not. 519 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: I like the other one. You know, we pick and 520 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: choose what we want to believe. Here, teams with a 521 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 1: winning percentage of twenty five percent or less fifty eight 522 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: percent against the spread as a home dog of seven 523 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: or more in the last twenty years that I like 524 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: bigger sample sizes, and I'm like, I'm just never going 525 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: to be a buyer of Dak Prescott as a nearly 526 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: two touchdown favorite on the road. I like Dak as 527 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: a big favorite at home, and we've bet him as 528 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: a big favorite at home. This isn't a spot where 529 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: I like Dak. So I think we're in agreement here. Carolina 530 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: plus ten and a half is making it in. 531 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we might get caught here because the Cowboys have 532 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 3: been playing really well offensively this whole season. Even in 533 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 3: their bad games, they're still moving the ball pretty well. 534 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 3: Like that we talked about that CD and Dak Combo 535 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 3: is just deadly right now. Right But the yeah, the 536 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 3: big Achille Eels though, has got to be Pollard. Like 537 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: they've made Pollard their number one running back? Shit have 538 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 3: you heard his name since Week one? Like this man 539 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 3: has totally disappeared. And if you look at the stats, 540 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: Ezekal Elliott's getting more yards per carry right now this 541 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 3: season than Pollard is, which is just crazy to think 542 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 3: that's that, Like he's doing better up in New England, 543 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: who's just a total train wreck than Pollard is behind 544 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 3: that O line with Dak as his quarterback. It is bizarre. 545 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 3: So you know, I want to make this our big 546 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 3: balls bet, Chad, but I'm worried no one's gonna bet 547 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 3: it but me and you. I'm just worried no one's 548 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: gonna listen to us here, because that's how much ball 549 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 3: as it takes. Like you're you're taking the worst team 550 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 3: in football at home as a double digit dog against 551 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 3: you know, perceived one of the best teams in all football, 552 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: Like Dallas is hot right now, and they looked really 553 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 3: good last week, and I totally get why you don't 554 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: want to do it. Got to take this spot, like 555 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: over long term, Chad just told you the numbers. You 556 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 3: make this bet the rest of your life and this 557 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 3: exact spot, with this number and this kind of matchup, 558 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,160 Speaker 3: you will be profitable long term. And that's what we're 559 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: trying to teach you. So I want to make this 560 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 3: big ball as Chad, you make you with me, Let's 561 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: do it. 562 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: I'm with you, Big Balls better the week. 563 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers plus ten and a half at home, We're 564 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: gonna get screwed, totally gonna get just you know, sideways. 565 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 3: There'll be a quick death though, which will be nice. 566 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: Or we're gonna win because we put a little bit 567 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: of taste in the money line. 568 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this is going the round robin. So you 569 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 3: hate this now, you're gonna hate it even more with. 570 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 2: You, I was struggling with, like, where are we gonna go? 571 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: Big balls? 572 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: I had it as a note for a different game, 573 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: But this is great, so all good on that. We 574 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,439 Speaker 1: still need to do a foxhole, but maybe it's going 575 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: to be a game later in the show, Minnesota and Denver. 576 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: You just said when we were talking about sharp calls. 577 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: I love that you said this. You had a feeling 578 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: this was going to be in our contest. My first note, 579 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 1: I have a feeling this will be in the contest, 580 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 1: So why don't we just say it right now? 581 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 2: Denver minds two and a half, so we're at five 582 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 2: for the record. 583 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, part of it is because of the movement. You know, 584 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of challenges elsewhere. But we broke 585 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: down Russell Wilson and Josh Jobs for our Faves film 586 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: room session for YouTube produced by Hutton Jackson, who's also 587 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: producing our video version of the podcast today, and why 588 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: don't you tell people what you thought about Josh Dobbs 589 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: And I'll tell people what I was able to discover 590 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: about Russell Wilson and why we sort of are landing 591 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: on Minnesota on Denver here. 592 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted to highlight what's working for Dobbs, and 593 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: you know, people are just like blown away. They're like, 594 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: why is this guy a journeyman? Why is no one 595 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 3: giving him a long term chance? And what's wrong with 596 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: all these teams passed on them? And it was basically 597 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: highlight what is his strength is His strength is his legs, 598 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: like his his movement in the pocket. Me and Chat 599 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: are watching. It's incredible his how comfortable he was in 600 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 3: the pocket. Body's flying all around him and he kept 601 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: total composure, which is kind of thing you see from 602 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: a guy who's been in the league a long time 603 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: and he's kind of figured it out right. It's someone 604 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: that they know the hits are going to come, but 605 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: he's so calm and confident in the pocket. It is 606 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: crazy to watch, and his movement and his running ability 607 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: is amazing. But I wanted to highlight he's not a thrower. 608 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 3: That's the reason why he's going to all these different teams. People. 609 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 3: He's not a consistent thrower. That's his weakness. And you know, 610 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 3: going back and watching that Vikings game, they've seen the 611 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: offense to have him have one open read looks kind 612 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: of right. They'd have him roll out and either be 613 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 3: his tight end there that's breaking open, or you know, 614 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 3: a wide receiver over the top. It would just be 615 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 3: a simple one two read. That's the only option he has. 616 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 5: It. 617 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 3: If it's not there, he can run it for a 618 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 3: couple of yards. And I love that they're doing that 619 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 3: with him in the offense. You know incomes this Denver 620 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 3: defense that they're just fast, Like if you go back 621 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: and watch all their tape these last couple of weeks, 622 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: they're fast across the board and they're hard to run 623 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 3: the ball like that against, like a quarterback trying to scramble. 624 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 3: I mean, that's what Mahome is one of the best 625 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 3: in the league at right. Mahomes is so incredible doing 626 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 3: what Dobbs is okay at, which is not panicleing the 627 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 3: pocket it breaks down, he can scramble for you for 628 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 3: that first down. Was he doing that against Denver in 629 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 3: the two games they faced him, No, because they knew 630 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: how to defend it. I think they'll run the same 631 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 3: exact scheme against Dobbs here, where at least you have 632 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 3: to worry about him passing so much as you do. 633 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 3: It's the exact same thing as the Chiefs. You need 634 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 3: to double the tight end, which is Hockinson, and you 635 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 3: need to have a spy in the quarterback. So I 636 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 3: think it's all there for Denver. But what really gives 637 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: me confident shat is just the love and all the 638 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 3: money and all the bets seeing it all come in 639 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: on the vikings and the fact that the Lions reversed movement, 640 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 3: like it's gone from one and a half to two 641 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: to now it's at two and a half. I think 642 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 3: this might get to three. Like, I just think the 643 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 3: pros will keep betting this one just because Denver feels 644 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 3: like they have found something and the Vikings feel like 645 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 3: they are so due for a totally shit bad game. 646 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 3: I mean, what are they on a five or six 647 00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: game win street. I mean, Kirk Cousins was playing amazing, 648 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 3: they went on this crazy run. They bring in this 649 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 3: backup Dobs who wins a road game I'm pretty sure 650 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: against Atlanta and then he came home and just beat 651 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 3: the Saints. Like we joke all the time, the NFC 652 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 3: South might be the worst division all football. So this 653 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: man just got fat and rich off being two teams that, 654 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 3: yeah they're leaving their division, but they might be really bad. 655 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: Now they're playing a team that we view as one 656 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 3: of the tougher divisions all football, right, I mean, as 657 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 3: shitty as the Raiders are, they're what above five hundred, 658 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 3: They're at least have five hundred. Sam goes for the 659 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 3: Chargers and then the Chiefs, Like this is a really 660 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 3: tough division and Denver showed out these last couple of weeks. 661 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: So I can't pass on how well this Denver defense 662 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: has been playing, how good they've playing as a team. 663 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 3: And Russell will us on what you're about to break down, 664 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 3: how he's improved these last couple of weeks. 665 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, Russell Wilson is sort of going unnoticed. The 666 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: key to Russell Wilson, if you watch, and what Sean 667 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 1: Payton has done so brilliantly in season is getting him 668 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: to make decisions faster and putting him in a position 669 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: to succeed by getting the ball snapped before there's less 670 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: than ten seconds on the play clock. And early in 671 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: the season you would see him get. 672 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 2: Into the line. 673 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: There was a lot of confusion, a lot of mayhem. 674 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: You saw bad, bad fumbles, bad decision making. On the 675 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: film room session we did yesterday, we broke down a 676 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: game clinching fumble that he forced himself by knocking the 677 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: ball out of his hand with his own leg against 678 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: the Jets. The next week a pick against the Chiefs 679 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 1: when he had less than one hundred yards passing, and 680 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: then they had ten days off, and since then they 681 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: won three games in a row, and not against sort 682 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: of Patsy's right. They beat the Bills, they beat the Chiefs, 683 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: the Packers obviously not not as challenging. But what Mahomes 684 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: has done since then seventy two percent completion percentage, six touchdowns, 685 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: no interceptions, but also just making decisions. And you even 686 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,479 Speaker 1: saw it in that Bills game. Second and one end 687 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 1: of the first quarter. Instead of doddling back and forth, 688 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: he immediately gets the ball out when his primary reads 689 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: aren't open, they get a first down. Next play started 690 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: the second quarter, the lane opens in the middle of 691 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,959 Speaker 1: the field. Instead of trying to stay back and make 692 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: the big play, immediately scrambles ten yards for a first down. 693 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: Like he's just a better quarterback. The guy's got eighteen 694 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: touchdown passes and four picks. That's second most touchdown passes 695 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: in the NFL right now and second fewest picks. So like, 696 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus, seventh best quarterback under pressure. 697 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: And he will get a lot of blitz's from the Viking. 698 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 2: So we like the Broncos. 699 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: We just yeah, I'll give you just one more actual 700 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 3: stat for Denver defense, because I was talking about how 701 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 3: good they've been, but Evan gave us an actual, real 702 00:33:55,440 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 3: stat that people can understand more. Broncos defense is tenth 703 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: an EPA per play since week six, So you know, 704 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 3: that's a huge improvement because through weeks one and five 705 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 3: they were thirty second in the league, and so since 706 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 3: week six they're tenth. Like, that's not a small sampler, 707 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: that's multiple weeks, and that's multiple weeks of faith. Like 708 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: Chatt is talking about, they faced the Chiefs twice in 709 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 3: that run. They faced the Bills in that run. So yeah, 710 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: clearly this defense. Since that's seventy point loss and a 711 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,399 Speaker 3: bunch of you know, they got rid of a bunch 712 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: of guys from that defense. Things have changed it for Denver. 713 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 3: So trying not to think too much about you're taking 714 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 3: a bad Denver team as a favorite. This is not 715 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 3: that team. They're a much better team. They should be 716 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 3: a favorite in this game. 717 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: Don't think, just do the one you got to think 718 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: about Philadelphia, Kansas City. Look, we liked it a two 719 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: and a half. It got bid up to three. Right 720 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,760 Speaker 1: after we did all that. We listed all the reasons 721 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: why we hate it. Mahomes in November December, virtually unbeatable Momes. 722 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 3: Well, I just wanted people to know this is why 723 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 3: people are going to push back on it. 724 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: Mahomes is a favorite of lesson three virtually impossib well, 725 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,799 Speaker 1: they'll cover against. This feels like the Super Bowl bet 726 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: all over again, right where we were on Philly last 727 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: year at the same number and ended up getting beat 728 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: in a bad spot. Philly was the right side in 729 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: that game, like they played better. There were some bad 730 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: plays and then they got my homes. So and reft 731 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: I wrote, this is a foxhole of big balls. We 732 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: went big balls with Carolina. If we're staying on Philly 733 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: and I haven't bought out of this bet kind of 734 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: feels like a foxhole to me. 735 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 3: I can't do it because I'm not going to make 736 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,479 Speaker 3: this one of my five biggest bets of the week. 737 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 3: I'm just not going to do it. I'm on the Eagles, 738 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 3: I'm taking the three. I'm happy to take it. But 739 00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 3: you just we talked about like this. My homes spot 740 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,319 Speaker 3: has not been good to us, and it's not a 741 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 3: great spot to fade him even worse. I saw that 742 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 3: Kelsey's parents are going to be there and Taylor Swift's 743 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 3: parents are going to be there, Chad, how can we 744 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 3: go against love? How can we go against love? 745 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: Nobody loves love more than me. 746 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 3: So I don't know what to do with this one. 747 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 3: I'm on them, but I don't know if I want 748 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 3: to make this our fox. Well I have another game 749 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 3: of mind. I just I don't know what to do 750 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 3: because I'm seeing a good number. But I hate I 751 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 3: hate how the professionals are coming in on the Chiefs 752 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 3: and like the guys I've talked to like that I respect. 753 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 3: It's like, fuck, this is just so typical, Like am 754 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 3: I I just like I just said it. The Eagles 755 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,839 Speaker 3: just are a much better team right now, and we're 756 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 3: getting three. It's crazy because home field basically dead, Like 757 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 3: home Field really is basically dead. It's like a point 758 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 3: and a half two points depending on the place. So 759 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 3: you're telling me on a neutral field the Chiefs will 760 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 3: be minus one at this point of the season, and 761 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 3: I wouldn't believe it. Like the Eagles have been more 762 00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 3: complete offensively and defensively than the chief have. Right the Chiefs, 763 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,560 Speaker 3: their best unit this season has been their defense. But 764 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 3: me and Chat talked though they've had injuries to it, 765 00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 3: that's why we love Denver. Against this Chiefs team a 766 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago, It's like They're a different team 767 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 3: on defense when they have injuries. So I'm trying to 768 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:19,200 Speaker 3: get there, brother, but this line is just so fishy, fishy, fishy, fishy. 769 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 3: So I I just won't make this one of our 770 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 3: five this week. I tell you that much. I just 771 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 3: can't do it because I can see it now, me 772 00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 3: and you will be sitting there. It's fourteen to three 773 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 3: mahomes like midway through the second quarter, and we're both 774 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,719 Speaker 3: just like, of course, like this is this is why 775 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 3: this Chiefs team have won multiple Super Bowls and they're 776 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: just a dynasty. It's just what they do in these spots. 777 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 3: So I'm taking the three. I think the Eagles are 778 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 3: the better team, but I just don't know if it's 779 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 3: gonna be my five biggest bets of the week. 780 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, I mean I don't know that. Like, 781 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,120 Speaker 2: we've got five games that we like right now. 782 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 1: I don't know that it would beat any of those 783 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: five games too much. The line is too right, Yes, 784 00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: it would be too much tension at the end of 785 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,200 Speaker 1: the week for this to be the game that we're 786 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: hinging a potentially you know what is otherwise a two 787 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 1: and two week on this game. Let's talk for a 788 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 1: minute about Arizona and Houston. Normally I auto bet when 789 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 1: you're like, you've been adamant about this game and I 790 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: have not been able to pull the trigger on Arizona, 791 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: Like I just can't wrap my head around it. I 792 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,319 Speaker 1: feel like there's too much credit. Like you said, the 793 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,439 Speaker 1: game was at five and a half, got down to five, 794 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 1: four and a half, four, and now professionals have come 795 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: back in on Houston. Yeah, I think CJ. Stroud might 796 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: be an exception to all these rules, at least he 797 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: has been this season, and so it's hard for me 798 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: to pull the trigger on Kyler Murray, who I think 799 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: is inconsistent and has a little bit of shine right now. 800 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,919 Speaker 3: And CJ at home, which he's performed better as well 801 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,359 Speaker 3: at home. I totally get it. And that's all gonna see. 802 00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 3: If you want to make this our foxhole just because 803 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 3: you know me, regardless of what's going on, I'm a 804 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 3: foxhole guy. I commit to a team, I commit to 805 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 3: a city. I'm a foxhole guy. The bullets are a 806 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 3: fly and man, no one, no one wants to take Arizona. 807 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: I feel like maybe the people you talk to they 808 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,919 Speaker 3: might like Arizona, but everyone is in on this Houston team. 809 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,960 Speaker 3: Here we go, Thank you, Evan. Here we go. Kyler 810 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 3: Murray ats career dog twenty one and twelve and two. 811 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 3: Dude his money as a dog as a favorite nine 812 00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 3: and fifteen ats. So clearly we want to back Kyler 813 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 3: as a dog. This is when you do want to 814 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,319 Speaker 3: back Kyler. But totally gear where Chad's coming from. Like, 815 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 3: this shit ain't fun. Like betting against CJ, the guy 816 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,439 Speaker 3: we just talked about. He could win MVP this year. 817 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 3: That's our real thing, people. I'm not the only crazy 818 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 3: person saying or thinking that. It's like, if this guy 819 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 3: can get this team who had the number two pick 820 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 3: in the last year's draft, that have just been an 821 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,439 Speaker 3: absolute joke. What three seasons now ever since to hold 822 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 3: the Shawn trade debacle happened. Pretty amazing story. But we 823 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 3: play numbers here. This feels like it should be three. 824 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: I'm getting up across a key number of four, four 825 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 3: and a half with Arizona. This will be one of 826 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 3: my five biggest bets. And yeah, I'm gonna be an 827 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 3: absolute sucker betting against CJ here at home, but I 828 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 3: gotta do it. 829 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: If you feel that strongly about it, we can make 830 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 1: it the foxhole, but it's not. I can't see it 831 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,240 Speaker 1: being one of our five. So that's fine, Like, yeah. 832 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 3: That's again, it's all give and take, baby, if you 833 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 3: have another, if we have five, we're good with. We 834 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 3: don't need to get this one in. I am happy 835 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 3: not to have to have this one in against CJ. 836 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 3: I'm just I just like it because it's just it's 837 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 3: the right play, like this is a long term another 838 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 3: long term winner, like you play this spot. I just 839 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 3: gave you the status Kyler as a dog, Like that's 840 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 3: that's when you want to back Kyler. It's when people 841 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 3: don't believe him, they're underestimating them. It's not when he's 842 00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 3: getting all the hype and the smoke possess. So yeah, 843 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 3: I still don't think anyone watched that Arizona Atlanta game. 844 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:08,839 Speaker 3: Only me. That was That's your classic corner TV game, 845 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 3: the Shado always says. So I don't think the public 846 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 3: winner stands that Kyler looks like he hasn't missed a beat, 847 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 3: And yeah, totally get it though, by the public love CJ. 848 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 3: It's like, I can't get over how amazing that win 849 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 3: was last week and all of his wins this season, 850 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 3: he's just he was incredible. He plays way above what 851 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,399 Speaker 3: he should be playing as a rookie. We haven't seen 852 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 3: anything like Aroonan. I guess we have. Last time we 853 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 3: said it was Dak when Dak had this kind of run. 854 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,680 Speaker 3: But think about how good that Cowboys team was compared 855 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 3: to this team here, right, Like Dak was a fourth 856 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 3: round pick that fell into a team that was built 857 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 3: for Tony Romo, like it had all the pieces already there. 858 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,839 Speaker 3: This dude fell into a team that had no pieces. Right, 859 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,840 Speaker 3: He's turning Nico Collins into a household name. He's tarn Yeah, 860 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 3: Tank Del What the hell is the other guy named 861 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 3: Pharaoh Brown? Like a guy who got cut from the 862 00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:02,240 Speaker 3: Cowboys is number one in the league for catches yards 863 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 3: per catch, right, Like bizarre, bizarre what they're doing in Houston. 864 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 3: He's changing everything. So totally get it if you're straight 865 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: off this number. But it's the smart play people. I 866 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 3: gotta beg you to do it. You just got to 867 00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 3: you gotta take this number. 868 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 2: CJ. 869 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: Strouds started the season two hundred and one to win MVP. 870 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: Now he's twenty to one. 871 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 2: Last rookie, dam last rookie to win MVP Jim Brown 872 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:27,919 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty seven. 873 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 3: Stott sid. 874 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: No, I had two more games that I want us 875 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 1: to talk about quickly. Okay, Tennessee at Jacksonville. I don't 876 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: like it still, but it's like the kind of game 877 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 1: that we should normally play. No. We said if it 878 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: got to seven, we were gonna tell about it. It's 879 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: Mike vrabel, a big dog on the road. This is 880 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,160 Speaker 1: when he wins. This is when he covers. I can't 881 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: find any on the field reason to like the Titans here, 882 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: but strictly with the coach and the spot. Division game, 883 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: division road team, division road dog, this is when you 884 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 1: back the trend. I haven't bet it yet. I don't 885 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: know that I like it any more than our five currently, 886 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: but I have to mention it. I have to mention. 887 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 3: It, and I might have to make it my Survivor pick, 888 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,480 Speaker 3: which sucks. Like I've been going through who we have 889 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 3: left and like this, this might be the best time 890 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 3: to take the Jaguars at home against a rookie quarterback. 891 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,120 Speaker 3: So I'm with Chad. I'll throw a penny on the seven, 892 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 3: but nothing big because I'm gonna need this for Survivor. 893 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 3: I don't want to be sweating. 894 00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: Oh god, but. 895 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 3: You're so right, Like this is the classic Vrabel. 896 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 2: Spot, but this is a Rabel spot. 897 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:48,000 Speaker 3: It's also a great It's also a great Jaguar spot. Right, 898 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 3: you gave us that stat. Teams that get blown out 899 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 3: come back. Yes, they usually bounce back, especially teams that 900 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:57,360 Speaker 3: are well coached, like the guy Doug p that was 901 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 3: a total train wreck. Right. It was like the same 902 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 3: thing when Dallas played the forty nine ers, like it 903 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 3: was literally the worst game of the year they had. 904 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 3: What happened the next week with Dallas? Right, they get 905 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 3: completely blew out of the team, and you expect the same. 906 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 3: The Jaguars are the cream of the crop, the leader 907 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 3: of this division that we keep talking about them waiting 908 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 3: on Trevor Lwrence to take that next step, And yeah, 909 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 3: he hasn't. He's had some real stinkers this season, but 910 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 3: he's also i think, playing really well in the system. 911 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, if you want to take the seven with 912 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 3: me and Chad, we can do it. But I'm telling 913 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 3: you this can be one my survivor pick, So it's 914 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 3: not gonna it. Probably wanted to be my top fifteen 915 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:35,800 Speaker 3: big bets this week. 916 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:37,280 Speaker 2: Last game. 917 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: Seattle at the Rams, so Stafford got helped. Stafford was announced, 918 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: the line moved from two and a half down to one. 919 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,080 Speaker 1: I stole some stats from the Ray Bound Stucky Action 920 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: Network podcast from the six Pack. You can listen to 921 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: it now or watch the video on YouTube. Rams have 922 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: had a better strength of schedule adjusted quarterback. Last time 923 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: they played, Rams out gained them by nearly three hundred 924 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: yards double them up on first downs. 925 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,040 Speaker 2: That was without Cooper Cup. 926 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 1: Seattle's wins had been fraudulent Giants, Panthers, Cardinals, Washington that 927 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: they needed a miracle. 928 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 3: So maybe Detroit give them some flowers over time. 929 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: So do we go with, Like, are the Rams a 930 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: pick that we're not talking enough about that should be 931 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 1: in our top five because like we weren't really focused 932 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:31,719 Speaker 1: on until late in the week. 933 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 2: Sometimes we do that. 934 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is a pros game, Like I talked 935 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 3: to a bunch of pros who love this on sharp calls. 936 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 3: They love this game. I got no real feel for it, 937 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:46,960 Speaker 3: Like I want to take the Rams, but it's Yeah, 938 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 3: it's a tough one for me. It really is, because 939 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 3: you know this number is gonna flip, right, And Evan 940 00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 3: gave us that number that when these teams move from 941 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 3: a dog to a favorite, it's not it's not great 942 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 3: for the Rams. So that's another fear with this RAMS number. 943 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,120 Speaker 2: But interesting, ah man. 944 00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is uh, this is definitely a Pros game. 945 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 3: The Pros are on the Rams. I just I have 946 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:12,960 Speaker 3: no real feel for this one. I'll be honest, Chad, 947 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 3: Like I want to get down the Rams coming into this. 948 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 3: I wanted to get on just with Stafford coming back, Like, 949 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 3: I agree with everything those guys were talking about, Like, 950 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 3: I think the Rams are just as good as Seattle. 951 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,120 Speaker 3: Like they've just they've had some bad injuries, right, Stafford 952 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 3: missing games. That's gonna kill you like that. That's the 953 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 3: reason the record is what it is. They're not that record, right, 954 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,879 Speaker 3: They're much better team than their record perceived. So I'm 955 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:37,800 Speaker 3: with the guys and I get what the pros are saying. 956 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 3: Maybe this will end up being one of our five 957 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 3: comes Sunday. It's just right now sending your Thursday. I 958 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,359 Speaker 3: just can't get there. I have no money bet on 959 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,359 Speaker 3: this game either side, so no real fill from this one. 960 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 3: But yes, the Pros that they like the Rams in 961 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 3: the spot. 962 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: Simon, can you name the fastest growing ticketing app in 963 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 1: the United States. 964 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:54,880 Speaker 3: Game Time. 965 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,239 Speaker 2: That's right, it's our. 966 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: Sponsor, game Time. I love game Time for two reasons. 967 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,200 Speaker 1: One because they sponsor this show. So number two, I 968 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: actually use game Time to buy tickets. They've got amazing 969 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: last minute deals on all sorts of tickets, including pro 970 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: and college football games, speaking which I'm using the game 971 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:12,200 Speaker 1: Time app right now from my house here in Connecticut. 972 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: Guess what hockey fans, You can get in to see 973 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 1: the New Jersey Devils. Devils for less than one hundred 974 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: and fifty bucks. Go see NHL hockey no matter where 975 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: you live. Download the game Time app, get down and 976 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,040 Speaker 1: has some fun this week. Go swait your bets live 977 00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 1: and in person, and you can redeem code favorites for 978 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: twenty dollars off your first purchase. Terms apply again. Just 979 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:41,719 Speaker 1: download the app and enter code favorites twenty dollars off 980 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,920 Speaker 1: last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. 981 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:45,959 Speaker 2: All right. Reminder about our contest picks. 982 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,320 Speaker 1: Simon and I typically enter our picks into the contest 983 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,120 Speaker 1: website on Thursday after the show. 984 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 2: If you want to see those unofficial. 985 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,840 Speaker 1: Picks we've entered before they lock, go to the contest 986 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,640 Speaker 1: site favorites dot Actionnetwork dot com search for the phase five. 987 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,800 Speaker 2: That's us. 988 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: We typically have these picks visible by Thursday afternoon before 989 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: we get to our money Line Underdog Round Robin. The 990 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: week eleven contest tiebreaker is total rushing yards on Monday night. 991 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:16,800 Speaker 1: Football Action Network predictive analyst Billy Ward writes a weekly 992 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 1: article about tiebreaker strategy, and a link to the article 993 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,200 Speaker 1: can be found in this episode's description. If you want 994 00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,080 Speaker 1: to leg up on the contest, good luck, all right, 995 00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: signon our Moneyline Underdog Round Robin. 996 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,239 Speaker 4: Dog blocks your dog, Your dog blocks mot dog. 997 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 2: Hello, Carolina Panthers, get that one in there. 998 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,600 Speaker 3: Gotta get Arizona in after I just hype them up 999 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 3: all that time. 1000 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 2: Here, we do have to get Arizona in there. 1001 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,920 Speaker 3: Let's cheat a little eagle, Yeah, yeah, I get the 1002 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,600 Speaker 3: Eagles in there. Should we do the coward cheat and 1003 00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 3: take Pittsburgh Pittsburgh plus one hundred? Yep, because it is 1004 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 3: a plus number. 1005 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Carolina and Arizona Philly in Pittsburgh so far. 1006 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 3: So we got we need one more? Oh god, Rams 1007 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 3: now minus one four? 1008 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 2: How about the Bears? 1009 00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 3: All right? I like that because last week, thanks to 1010 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 3: my guy Chad here, I hit the Cleveland You know 1011 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 3: that was that was a really nice pay to the 1012 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 3: Cleveland Denver. I think it made me thirteen or twelve 1013 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 3: to one, So yeah, yeah, that was really good. Yeah, 1014 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,479 Speaker 3: let's do it. Let's get Chicago in there. 1015 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:40,239 Speaker 2: All right. You know what else we're gonna do. 1016 00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna make Little Caesars, which is the official pizza 1017 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: sponsor of the NFL, part of your game today, Simon, 1018 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 1: We're already in mid November this Thanksgiving. 1019 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 2: Are you most grateful for Little Caesars Pizza? 1020 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:51,800 Speaker 3: I am Chad. 1021 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 2: Order online during. 1022 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: Our pizza pizza pre game one hour before NFL games 1023 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,880 Speaker 1: and get ready for some football and fine, choose your 1024 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:02,200 Speaker 1: favorite Little Caesars pizza or pick the topics your crave. Simon, 1025 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 1: what do you think about this new motto I invented 1026 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,240 Speaker 1: just on the spot. Even if your car is coated 1027 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: and rust, you can always afford crazy crust. Love it. 1028 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 2: However you order your pizza, you win. 1029 00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:20,319 Speaker 1: And speaking of winning, everyone scores with convenient delivery or 1030 00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,520 Speaker 1: our in store pizzaa portal pickup. So grab some friends 1031 00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,880 Speaker 1: and enjoy a few slices during the game. It's time 1032 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,320 Speaker 1: for I'm. 1033 00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:33,680 Speaker 3: A Survivor the Survivor Pool pick of the week. 1034 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,080 Speaker 2: Jags. 1035 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, gotta do it. I guess like I'm like going 1036 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 3: through them right now. I could could take the lines, 1037 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,919 Speaker 3: but I really don't want to. And that's the only 1038 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 3: other real option. Like I've already used Dallas, I've already 1039 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,400 Speaker 3: used the Dolphins, already used the forty nine ers. Yeah, 1040 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 3: I'm sorry people, this is this is what it' start. 1041 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 3: It's getting ugly. We gotta do we gotta take the jags. 1042 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,520 Speaker 3: I hate it, but they're the best option I got. 1043 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes when we're doing the show, I'm looking at the 1044 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 1: script that I have in front of me, not at 1045 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: the zoom, so I can't always see you, And so 1046 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: I'll be looking at the script and I will ask 1047 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,400 Speaker 1: you a question and I don't go back to the zoom. 1048 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: And sometimes you're so deep in thought you pause for 1049 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,800 Speaker 1: like an extra two seconds or so. And just now, 1050 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: when you pause so long for the jags, I kind 1051 00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: of thought you would just frozen. 1052 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh no, did we lose. 1053 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,000 Speaker 1: Are dead air? 1054 00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 2: Dead Air? Dead Air? All right? 1055 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,240 Speaker 1: We've talked a lot about your biggest bets of the week. 1056 00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 1: Where are you right now on your biggest bets of 1057 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 1: the week. 1058 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 3: I feel bad because people got pissed last week because 1059 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,319 Speaker 3: I end up buying out that Bengals position. But this 1060 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,319 Speaker 3: week I will not be buying out people unless both 1061 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:01,280 Speaker 3: receivers are. We had all of a sudden from Miami. 1062 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 3: I'm in all Miami. I've been betting Miami, you know, 1063 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,360 Speaker 3: since Sunday night, and now that number is all up 1064 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,520 Speaker 3: to thirteen and a half and I'm gonna still fair 1065 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 3: a little on there. All right, So our biggest bets Miami, Arizona, 1066 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:20,440 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh and Denver, so right now, Yeah, those guys they 1067 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,239 Speaker 3: keep adding up. 1068 00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 2: But of it. 1069 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty pretty gross week. But I love these games, 1070 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 3: I really do. 1071 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: As a reminder, the Favorite podcast is presented by Bet 1072 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,480 Speaker 1: three six five Bet three six five thousand and two Ordinary. 1073 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: That's why you get more boosts with them than with 1074 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,520 Speaker 1: anyone else. Every day they power out the odds one 1075 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:39,479 Speaker 1: hundreds of bets to give you a chance to win more. 1076 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,400 Speaker 1: Bet three sixty five boosts specific markets to your winnings 1077 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,680 Speaker 1: and even parlays, and they don't stop there. Keep an 1078 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: eye out for their biggest and best odds with the 1079 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: incredible super Boost. 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And 1089 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 1: if you don't give me confirmation bias about it and 1090 00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,520 Speaker 1: they've heard that's I am going to freaking. 1091 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,680 Speaker 3: Lose the last word with Evan Abrams. 1092 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,120 Speaker 2: We're finished talking. 1093 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, I stayed a little away this week, but let's 1094 00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 5: get into it. So I mentioned this stat on Tuesday 1095 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,120 Speaker 5: about Jerry Gobb covering eleven straight games against the NFC North. 1096 00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 5: So in the last twenty years, only one other quarterback 1097 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 5: has covered at least eleven straight versus division opponent. Can 1098 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:47,680 Speaker 5: you name him? At AFC North, AFC South. He's retired. 1099 00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 5: He recently declared the Civil War is over I don't 1100 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,160 Speaker 5: know if you remember him anybody. No, Andrew Loven Gerard. 1101 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 5: There you go, and Andrew Andrew Willlock. Okay, So Andrew 1102 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 5: Luck and Jari gov had the longest streak, so God 1103 00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 5: can break that this weekend. 1104 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 3: Here's the next one for you. 1105 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 5: So Chiefs Eagles is a betting matchup twenty eight years 1106 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 5: in the making. So Eagles and Chiefs are the first 1107 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,640 Speaker 5: matchup of teams being favored in their first nine games 1108 00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,840 Speaker 5: of the season since forty nine Ers Cowboys back in 1109 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety five. No, it wasn't Steve Young and Troy Aikman. 1110 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,800 Speaker 5: It was actually Elvis Gerback and Wade Wilson because Aikman, 1111 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 5: who started, was hurt in the first quarter. Dallas was 1112 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,080 Speaker 5: minus thirteen and lost outright. So twenty eight years since 1113 00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,360 Speaker 5: we've had two teams favored in their first nine games 1114 00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 5: face off against each other. Unfortunately the dog in those 1115 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 5: games six and twenty three. So not great straight up, 1116 00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 5: not a great stat. But let's talk about one more so. 1117 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 5: This one actually was a favorite on Twitter last week 1118 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:49,799 Speaker 5: X whatever you want to call it. But when both 1119 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 5: teams are on extended rest, which is eight days or more, 1120 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 5: the under is now one oh one forty seven and 1121 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 5: one since twenty eighteen, including twenty five and five this 1122 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 5: season last week. This week, unfortunately it's Chiefs Eagles, so 1123 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,640 Speaker 5: that is the one game that fits, so that that 1124 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,920 Speaker 5: is the under you're looking at there. And a friendly 1125 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 5: reminder primetime unders that is night games and the international game. 1126 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 5: So far thirty and seven this season, so see if 1127 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 5: that continues. 1128 00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 2: Evan didn't do anything to make either of us feel better. 1129 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,759 Speaker 2: That's a goal, all right. 1130 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: Let's recap our Foxhol Arizona plus five one of Simon's 1131 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,560 Speaker 1: biggest bets of the week. I'm not even sure I'm 1132 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,719 Speaker 1: in the Foxhol with him, but I will be because 1133 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,800 Speaker 1: he's my guy and I back him one hundred percent. 1134 00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: Our big balls Carolina plus ten and a half the 1135 00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 1: exec decision. Remember you got to listen to the show 1136 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,520 Speaker 1: on Tuesday. That was Pittsburgh plus four. That number's gone. 1137 00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,240 Speaker 1: We're still gonna like Pittsburgh plus one in the contest, 1138 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 1: Simon says, with Miami minus twelve also long gone, thirteen 1139 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 1: and a half will probably still put it in the contest. 1140 00:55:54,640 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: Money line underdog round Robin Carolina, Arizona, Philly, Pittsburgh, Chicago 1141 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: if we had to lock it in right now. 1142 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:08,640 Speaker 2: The paths five for now. 1143 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 1: Denver minus two and a half, Miami minus thirteen and 1144 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 1: a half, Bears plus seven and a half, Pittsburgh plus one, 1145 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,440 Speaker 1: Carolina plus ten and a half. I think the debates 1146 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,320 Speaker 1: are going to be over the next forty eight hours 1147 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 1: forty eight to seventy two hours rams in Arizona. Do 1148 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 1: they end up as we hear more information? Do they 1149 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: end up replacing any of these teams? What do you 1150 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: think of that? 1151 00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just hoping for Arizona six and a half 1152 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,120 Speaker 3: in contest. That would be amazing. I could see us 1153 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 3: getting in there. But if it's four and a half 1154 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,040 Speaker 3: five and a half, I don't know. It'd be a 1155 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 3: lot harder to talk me into it. 1156 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,880 Speaker 1: All right, Before we sign off, reminder that Simon and 1157 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,000 Speaker 1: I will be back with our week eleven recap episode 1158 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 1: live on the Action Network YouTube page the Sunday and 1159 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 1: every Sunday seven thirty. Also reminder our Sunday episode on 1160 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:03,800 Speaker 1: December third will be live and in person in Hoboken, 1161 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 1: New Jersey. The Shepherd and the Knucklehead December third Live Show. 1162 00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: Come join us, Prizes, drinks, hugs from Simon and I 1163 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:20,560 Speaker 1: so much more. You must rsvp. The link to RSVP 1164 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,320 Speaker 1: is in the episode description. 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