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Speaker 2: shake your head at me.

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Speaker 3: It's that put your shot music.

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Speaker 4: You guys are gonna have to wear this for the

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Speaker 1: That's fine, but you gotta change this at some point. Connect.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's happening.

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Speaker 4: Listen some ideas sound uh they sound good in my head.

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Speaker 4: I listen to it and then it comes on the

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Speaker 5: That's that's not a great move. You will trying here.

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Speaker 1: There you go, probably the reason to move it.

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 1: Oh awesome?

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Speaker 5: Man, Yeah, fire it up.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna check things off, buddy, trying to.

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Speaker 4: Trying to avoid the negativity and the threats that are

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Speaker 4: low apparently so have you guys been paying any attention

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Speaker 4: to the fact that Major League Baseball's probably gonna have

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Speaker 4: a work stoppage. It's probably heading in that direction after

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Speaker 4: this season. And then you know, mine of my own business,

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Speaker 4: just kind of doing my thing and this report comes

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Speaker 4: out via The Athletic that the NFL's Competition Committee's annual

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Speaker 4: meeting in conjunction with the Scouting Combine including a conversation

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Speaker 4: regarding multiple contingencies in the event a deal with the

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Speaker 4: NFL Referees Association isn't reached. One possibility includes quote, the

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Speaker 4: possibility of centralizing some officiating functions in New York and

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Speaker 4: expanding the use of technology, basically in case there's a

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Speaker 4: referee work stoppage like we had back when there was

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Speaker 4: a botch tail Mary and all the other fun stuff

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Speaker 4: that went on, We're going to go down this road again.

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Speaker 4: Was a disaster, then this feels like the potential of

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Speaker 4: a disaster. But I'm trying to figure out if it's

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Speaker 4: worse than what we currently have with the NFL officiating

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Speaker 4: problem that continues to be rampant every single season, as

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Speaker 4: we've illustrated on this show.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was claiming for one more official on the

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Speaker 1: field for each one of the games. Now there that

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Speaker 1: might be replacement officials, So I clearly we're not headed

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Speaker 1: in the right direction. I do want to go back

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Speaker 1: to the breaking point of the replacement refs the nfl RA,

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Speaker 1: which is the NFL Referees Association. They had initially had

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Speaker 1: a work stoppage that it didn't coincide necessarily with the players,

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Speaker 1: but it was close. I think it was about I

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Speaker 1: soon after what was deemed as the Fail Mary. For

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Speaker 3: It's about the money. I mean, they want more money.

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Speaker 6: They want they probably want better better pensions, better benefits,

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's what this is all all. That's what

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Speaker 6: it ultimately comes down to money. I mean, I think

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Speaker 6: The fail Mary was a low point.

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Speaker 3: It was bad.

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Speaker 6: I mean, if people do remember, it was bad. But

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Speaker 6: you know, I think it has very little to do

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Speaker 6: You know, it could be things like travel or you know,

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Speaker 4: The fail Mary was probably also the last time they

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Speaker 4: It could be worse, like, oh, like this is what

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Speaker 4: favorite players. Sure, yeah, that's a touchdown. It was awful

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Speaker 4: But I just I look at it and I go

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Speaker 5: And AI and all this stuff, and just.

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Speaker 1: That is so true.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not That's not me. I still think there's

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Speaker 4: you have a cassette tape in your Toyota truck said, hey, listen.

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Speaker 6: He does have a cassette player, so some people may

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Speaker 3: Dang.

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Speaker 7: Oh.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the headquarters for the nfl r A

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Speaker 5: So we're doing that.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 5: You want to call it, what you want to call him?

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Speaker 5: Why not call him?

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Speaker 1: They're not open right now? Okay, well leave leave You

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's leave a message. Yeah, come on, let's let's

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Speaker 5: What are you gonna say, Johnnan, Well, my well, on

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Speaker 5: the message, I don't know. It'll come to me.

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Speaker 3: When I could. I know what I could say at point.

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Speaker 5: Which is what huh what would you say to them?

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Speaker 6: Well, we're on air right now talking about potentially there

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Speaker 6: being a work stoppage for you guys. Is there any

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Speaker 6: possibility you could get you know, guys could give us

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Speaker 4: Oh, come on, listen, we don't have a lot of time.

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Speaker 4: Like you got to get straight to the point. I

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Speaker 4: you guys is gambled on games?

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, like who is it? Like?

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Speaker 5: Listen, let's not that a legitimate question.

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Speaker 3: It is actually a legitimate question or a you.

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Speaker 5: Know, which one of you guys you know has a

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Speaker 5: real beef with Dean Blandino.

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Speaker 4: Maybe we could set up sort of a three way

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Speaker 4: call and some sort of a celebrity.

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Speaker 1: Three way call. Why don't we try to set up

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Speaker 1: like a celebrity boxing match Dean and have your choice,

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Speaker 5: I got Dean. I'll take Dean in that fight.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna take.

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Speaker 1: There's some say hockey would be won. There's a couple

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Speaker 3: Up Terry beat the breaks off of Dean bland.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you see him grabbing dudes up off of the

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Speaker 3: That's what game was that? Forget it?

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Speaker 5: What it was do you guys.

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Speaker 4: It is kind of interesting though that because look, I

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Speaker 5: I always want that do exist.

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Speaker 4: I'm still in support of the chain gang because I

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Speaker 1: But yeah, well then you just your old school man.

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Speaker 1: You don't want change, You don't want like our culture

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Speaker 1: of society to evolve you, because I do think bro,

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Speaker 1: on all fours. I'm not. I'm not doing that upright stuff.

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Speaker 1: No chance.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you better believe it.

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Speaker 6: Flying they were they guys to Larry learned how to

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Speaker 1: He can go kill things for us with a knife. Now, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna crawl and my.

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Speaker 4: Bare hands because listen, unlike you guys, unlike you, guys,

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Speaker 4: I may work harder, not smarter type guy. Okay, and

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Speaker 4: that's the way I operate. I definitely smarter, but this

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Speaker 4: is but this is the way I don't. But but

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Speaker 4: here's the point, Okay, here's the point. You have the

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Speaker 4: access to all this stuff. You've got chips and footballs.

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Speaker 4: You've got all this, all these things that you can do,

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Speaker 4: and there still seems like it's why would we So

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Speaker 4: if there is the potential of you can centralize this stuff,

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Speaker 4: you can make this quicker, you can get the calls right,

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Speaker 4: it is a more accurate you know, the automatic ball

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Speaker 5: We talked about that before.

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Speaker 3: Like there.

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Speaker 1: You're saying what I just said.

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Speaker 4: And that's and that's why I look at it and

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Speaker 4: I go, why would anybody be against this? But but

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Speaker 5: Doing things around here.

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Speaker 4: Like, dude, you know how many people were impacted or

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Speaker 5: You could go through, recall it, I look it up.

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Speaker 6: It's your it's your timeline though, it's all that buffoonery

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the unwashed show up in that timeline. That's what happened.

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Speaker 5: But I just like the idea that now he listen, guys.

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Speaker 5: But I just like it, like because now they're getting money.

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Speaker 6: They better get the good and get while the getting

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Speaker 1: But it did leave me to this, like Jonas is

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Speaker 5: How would I do that?

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Speaker 4: and throw it into the air and let somebody else

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Speaker 4: deal with it later on.

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Speaker 6: I think the bigger question would be will you need

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Speaker 6: mental assistance? Will you need a therapist? When that day

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Speaker 6: comes that that truck is not a party.

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Speaker 3: I'll be devastating.

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Speaker 5: I'll be devastated, like.

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Speaker 6: More than losing a a loved one, like more like

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Speaker 6: will you have a funeral?

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Speaker 4: Yeah no, because I can't even I won't even be

448
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Speaker 4: able to get to that day like and I wouldn't.

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Speaker 4: And for you, like, I know you've got ulterior motives.

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Speaker 4: You're looking for thong siding, so that's not gonna happen

451
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Speaker 4: at that funeral. You will not be invited to the

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Speaker 4: funeral of my six Tacoma So.

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Speaker 3: Really I'm looking for im thong searching. That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how many miles you get on nothing three ninety

455
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Speaker 4: six maybe coming up on three ninety seven?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Uh? Do you think that's how the NFL

457
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Speaker 1: handles things with the officials, like, hey, man, you're twenty

458
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Speaker 1: years old now, got a lot of miles on you.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go ahead and we're gonna go ahead and

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Speaker 1: sit you down.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's uh yeah, we gotta uh, we gotta gotta

462
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Speaker 4: come with us and go veer off over here. That's

463
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Speaker 4: why Blandino and Pereira were ahead of the game. They

464
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Speaker 4: just realized, you know, we're tired of getting our balls

465
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Speaker 4: broken every single week. Especially Pereira. He's like, I'm tired

466
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Speaker 4: of getting my balls broken every single week, being called

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Speaker 4: an idiot and then a scumbag. Do I have money

468
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Speaker 4: on the game, So it's like you don't, and I'm

469
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Speaker 4: just gonna make money talking about the bad calls or

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Speaker 4: the right calls.

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Speaker 3: Give way more money.

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Speaker 6: What he does, it's a better life, and the perks

473
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Speaker 6: are phenomenal. Their perks are phenomenal.

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Speaker 5: Flandido was on Jerry's bus. Wouldn't want to be on

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Speaker 5: Jerry's bus.

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Speaker 6: Come on, man, I think he was actually working. That

477
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Speaker 6: wasn't a It's better than that. And Bud, he did

478
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Speaker 6: catch that. So shots out to the Steelers and shots

479
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Speaker 6: out to that referee.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike renfro By the way the white rod receiver.

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Speaker 4: Who of the Oilers who got screwed on that call

482
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Speaker 4: in the seventy.

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Speaker 6: Not the receiver, not the receiver for the Oilers.

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Speaker 5: I just want to be it's radio.

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Speaker 3: Just can you make sure you do it every other

486
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Speaker 3: time too?

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Speaker 6: Like can you say the heat that the white receiver

488
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Speaker 6: was robbed by a what.

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Speaker 3: By? What? A black cornerback? Or wow?

490
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Speaker 6: Covered black cornerback from the Steelers white referee.

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Speaker 5: I want to I gotta be careful I a word that.

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Speaker 3: All right? Okay, he was being covered by but you're safe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he got robbed. You got robbed by black corner.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to say that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what happened after the game, but he

496
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Speaker 4: was covered on the play by a black defensive back.

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Speaker 5: That is correct.

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Speaker 4: Mike Renfro, My guy, man, you got screwed in the

499
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Speaker 4: AFC title game back in seventy nine.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely screwed.

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Speaker 4: Uh. It is two pros and a cup of Joe

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Speaker 4: But let's talk about somebody who'd like to get paid.

534
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Speaker 4: Brendan Aubrey, the placekicker for the Dallas Cowboys, reportedly would

535
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Speaker 4: like a little bit of a pay bump. Now, the

536
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Speaker 4: highest paid kicker in the NFL is Harrison butker of

537
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Speaker 4: the Chiefs, who makes about six and a half million dollars.

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Speaker 4: Brendan Aubrey and his representatives are seeking about ten. So

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Speaker 4: we are now have gotten to the point to where

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Speaker 4: placekickers in the NFL are approaching the ten million dollar range, which,

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Speaker 4: if we're being honest, probably the best kicker in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: Guy bombs sixty yard field goals like they're nothing, and

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Speaker 4: not for a guy who didn't even play college football.

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Speaker 4: Gets to the Cowboys, it's America's team. He's the best

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Speaker 4: kicker in the league, and now he'd like to get paid.

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Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. I'm kind of all

547
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Speaker 1: for this. I mean, I feel like as much as

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Speaker 1: we blame kickers, people feel like kickers are afterthoughts. They

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Speaker 1: everyone else's pay has been increasing for the most part,

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Speaker 1: maybe besides some running backs and say maybe a safety,

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Speaker 1: but everyone else has been kind of going up steadily.

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Speaker 1: Kickers have remained somewhat flat for a while. And he's phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: And as Pete Prisco said, if there's a reaction from

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Speaker 1: last year, maybe teams going for it too much on

555
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Speaker 1: fourth down, you start getting teams kicking more field goals

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Speaker 1: and only highlights more of the importance too of having

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Speaker 1: someone who could make him they can put points on

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Speaker 1: the board. So it's uh he Look, he plays with

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, So if there's ever a team where

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Speaker 1: they could, you know, find a way of reset in

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Speaker 1: the market for a position group, Jerry Jones Stephen Jones

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Speaker 1: will be your guys. I mean, they love bragging about

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Speaker 1: how much they pay everyone. So he's in the right

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Speaker 1: spot in order to get this steal done.

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Speaker 6: Except Michael Parsons. But hey, listen, it's it's uh there,

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Speaker 6: there's there's a couple of something.

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Speaker 1: Else out there, though you have to admit that there's

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Speaker 1: something else there. With the Microsoft, there was definite any

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Speaker 1: something else there. Yeah, there's definitely something else there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens are trying to get it done

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Speaker 1: with Lindernbaum and there there are going to be certain

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Speaker 1: players that have shown that they have that type of

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Speaker 1: value connected to.

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Speaker 6: Them, and and this is one of those players. I mean,

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Speaker 6: he's he's rewriting the way you view trusting your kicker.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you literally have a chance to put three

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Speaker 6: points on the field the moment you get close to

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Speaker 6: the fifty yard line, Like that's unheard of. So when

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Speaker 6: you do things that are unheard of and different and

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Speaker 6: unique in a phenomenal way, you should be rewarded for it.

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Speaker 6: I don't think it's a hard conversation at all.

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Speaker 4: And it's also when that guy lines up the kick,

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Speaker 4: I just want to I really do just want to

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Speaker 4: watch it because he bombs like he hits bombs, So

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Speaker 4: there is a there's an entertainment aspect to it. And

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Speaker 4: he's gonna I mean, we're going to get to set.

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Speaker 4: Like Vic Fangio said it, it's going to get to

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Speaker 4: the point to where Aubrey's making seventy yard field goals

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Speaker 4: like at a at a clip. That's just consistent. So

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Speaker 4: that's gonna happen, and he's looking for the ten million dollars.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of Brendan's I don't know if you guys had

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Speaker 4: a chance to see this, but here we go again.

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Speaker 5: This is a story that Petros is really going to.

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Speaker 4: Like Brendan Soresby, who's the former quarterback for the Cincinnati Bearcats, Well,

596
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Speaker 4: he's being sued by Cincinnati in federal court alleging that

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Speaker 4: he breached his NIL contract with the Bearcats when he

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Speaker 4: refused to pay a one million dollar exit fee when

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Speaker 4: he transferred to Texas Tech. Now, these are the members

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Speaker 4: that are out there. Who knows if they're true. Soorsby

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Speaker 4: reportedly signed an NIL deal with Texas Tech that pays

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Speaker 4: in between four to six million dollars this season, but

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Speaker 4: Cincinnati's looking to get a million back based on the

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Speaker 4: fact that they feel like he violated the terms of

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Speaker 4: their agreement.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna start seeing this too. For any player

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Speaker 1: who signs an NIO deal that's uh has multiple years

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Speaker 1: on it, there'll be an exit fee some way of

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Speaker 1: trying to essentially, you know, you see this in other

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Speaker 1: professional sports leagues like the EPL, for example, transfer fees,

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Speaker 1: and that's really what this is. You know, it's a

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Speaker 1: it's not a new concept. It's existed for a while.

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Speaker 1: It's just as as the College Football League tries to

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Speaker 1: find its way in this you know, professional format, you know,

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Speaker 1: working without a collective bargain agreement, no union, and no

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Speaker 1: really overseeing body. This is how they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: do it. They're gonna have to continue to press the

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Speaker 1: regulations or rules that the NCAA sets out, and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be challenged in court, and based on those court decisions,

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Speaker 1: they're they're going to find precedent and so in this case,

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Speaker 1: you know, they'll probably settle. That's what usually happens in

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Speaker 1: these these instances. I'm sure Brendon Sorsby was aware of

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Speaker 1: the language within the deal and understood that this was

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Speaker 1: potentially could happen. But when you're getting paid four to

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Speaker 1: five maybe six million for a one year deal with

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech, it's worthwhile. It's more than Cincinnati was going

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Speaker 1: to be paying you. So I would not be shocked

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Speaker 1: at all if they don't end up settling this thing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's five hundred thousand, whatever the number is, but

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Speaker 1: they will make this public and they willn't force it

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Speaker 1: because they don't want this to happen again with other players.

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Speaker 1: You know, Cincinnati doesn't want to be looked at as

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Speaker 1: a school within the Big twelve. That just allows any

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Speaker 1: player to, hey, we're going to pay you well. Because

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Speaker 1: Sworsby was was paid well last year to be their starter,

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Speaker 1: but not the top of the market. And that's what

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech is now offered. And so in order for

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Speaker 1: them to keep their roster and players intact, they have

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Speaker 1: to put these sorts of things in the contracts and

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Speaker 1: they have to enforce them.

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Speaker 6: It just forces a lot of different conversations, one the

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Speaker 6: protection of the player and doing these contracts. I mean,

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Speaker 6: I've I've been doing a lot of deep diving in

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Speaker 6: on some of these contracts that that are being being

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Speaker 6: put together to be signed. I think there's one there's

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Speaker 6: one contract. I'll leave the school nameless. But there's one

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Speaker 6: contract out there that you sign, and it's they could

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Speaker 6: actually get out of the contract if your weight isn't

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Speaker 6: the specific weight, if if you're there're certain Now I really.

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Speaker 1: Want to know what school that is. Like now now

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with knowing what school would be that concerned

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Speaker 1: about some.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you. No, I'm not going to say it

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Speaker 3: on air.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't have to sit on there by the way,

656
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Speaker 1: is this is this school? Is this the same school

657
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: that that lady? Remember the read we had that what

658
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: was it? What was it called?

659
00:32:58,440 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 5: Oh?

660
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, where they uh something they were.

661
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: Mean to you? Is that the same? Is that where

662
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: she went to school? Maybe that's where she learned it?

663
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: No?

664
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, where did her? Where did her fat ass go

665
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 5: to school?

666
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah?

667
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: I don't remember the story because I was thinking about

668
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 3: something else. What that story? Again? Tell me the story again?

669
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: What was it the lady who means.

670
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: To you about the supplement or the diethee?

671
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I could see it in your face. Maybe

672
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 6: she went all in the bio in your neck.

673
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, maybe she went she said it.

674
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: Maybe, I don't you know, I don't know.

675
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 4: She was one more actly and LaVar, I just got

676
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 4: your text. That makes sense.

677
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's.

678
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 1: That's that's I was going to say, Like, of all

679
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 1: the schools, that's one that you're probably thinking away from.

680
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, anyway, they can they can actually cancel out your

681
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 6: contract based off of those things, and if you didn't

682
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 6: look at it, if they wanted to get rid of you.

683
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 6: Because again I made this point to you guys before

684
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 6: these there's gms that are being hired. They're being hired

685
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 6: to be gms. You're not just taking on a title

686
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 6: and a role of Oh, like you're GMS, so I

687
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 6: mean you're the general manager of the team. You're managing

688
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 6: you know mells like when you know, like logistically, like

689
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 6: when we leave from the facility, go get on the airplane.

690
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 6: Like no, you're negotiating, like there are standard contracts like

691
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 6: the Big Ten's, certain certain conferences have standard contracts, like

692
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 6: it's standard language, standard contracts. But when you get into

693
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 6: the other there's like two contracts that have to be signed.

694
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 6: But this one in particular, they customized their contract. So

695
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 6: they used the template, but they added some of their

696
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 6: own language. If I, if I understood it correctly, I

697
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 6: could be speaking out a term in that instance. But

698
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 6: I do believe they customize to add different I guess

699
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 6: a mendic clauses where if you're doing X, you're on

700
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 6: the hook. You can be let go for this, or

701
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 6: if you leave you have to pay X back. So

702
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 6: the point is, without getting too deep into all of that,

703
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 6: the point is that parents like the first thing parents

704
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 6: do when or at least they should do, when they

705
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 6: get a you know, their son says, I got to

706
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 6: renew because these are yearly renewals, all right, Like you

707
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 6: gotta like come back talk to the GM. They tell

708
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 6: you your value, like Okay, we're going to give you more,

709
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 6: we're going to give you less. We think you should

710
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 6: potentially look to go somewhere else. All those conversations take

711
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 6: place like almost like exit meetings every year. So parents

712
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 6: have to be more vigilant and more proactive in looking

713
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 6: at the language of these contracts that your kids are signing.

714
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 6: You can't just go sign the contract like oh it's

715
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 6: National Signing Day, you sign, you get your scholarship, you

716
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 6: go play like this literally has now turned into an

717
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 6: industry where you have to have the language fine tooth

718
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 6: combed before you sign something. Are you guys, because you

719
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 6: could find yourself in a situation like this right here

720
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 6: where you have monies that you have to pay back.

721
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,880
Speaker 6: And even the kid that transferred from Georgia, I think

722
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 6: that or whatever went to South Carolina or whatever it was,

723
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 6: like having to pay money back because or based off

724
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 6: of not even getting it yet, Like that's crazy to me.

725
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 4: If there are stipulations and contracts now at the college level,

726
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 4: I'm fine with that. Like, if that's if you're investing

727
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 4: that type of money into somebody, you want to know

728
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 4: that they're handling it and doing everything on their end

729
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 4: to keep their part of the deal, their portion of

730
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 4: the deal.

731
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 5: I don't have a problem with that.

732
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 4: So if they're like, hey, listen, man, if you're not

733
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 4: under a certain weight, it gets voided or you owe

734
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 4: ys this, or like if we're at the point to

735
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: where this is basically a professional model, then that's just

736
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 4: some of the stuff that comes along with There.

737
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 6: Needs to be something in place that like a governance

738
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 6: of technology or something that's in place, because as good

739
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 6: as that sounds, and business is business, at the end

740
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 6: of the day, a lot of these families are imparvish.

741
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 6: They don't live in the best of situations, they don't

742
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 6: have resources to invest in being able to actually properly

743
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 6: protect their kids. And that's where the issue comes in

744
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 6: with all of this, Like it's not just oh, go

745
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 6: get an agent to do it, Like these agents are

746
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 6: asking for exorbitant amounts of percentages on what it is

747
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 6: that they're doing, not to mention if it's a retainer,

748
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 6: because they're just overlooking looking over a contract that's available.

749
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 6: I just think that there needs to be some systems

750
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,399
Speaker 6: put in place that actually protect these families because they're

751
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 6: not all going to sit there and be like, yeah,

752
00:37:58,440 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 6: I can go get Oh, I got a lawyer that

753
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 6: can look at it, and who knows if you're being

754
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 6: taken advantage by that lawyer in that situation. So it

755
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 6: just creates some harder conversations and there needs to be

756
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,360
Speaker 6: some solutions that are possibly being working towards, work towards

757
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 6: for the betterment for both the universities and the athletes

758
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 6: that are involved.

759
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of financial stuff that needs to be

760
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Speaker 4: bowl dot com. Forward slash disclosures and up next, it

767
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Speaker 4: is back one of the great details from the combine

768
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Speaker 4: in Indianapolis, and it's yours right here on FSR.

769
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and

770
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 2: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and

771
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific

772
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

773
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet you she was.

774
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 6: She was whipping them eggs, yolks, get ready to make

775
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 6: some scrambled eggs.

776
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 3: She was, damn it to this right here.

777
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 6: That toast was popping out, that coffee was eating out. Yeah,

778
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 6: get it, mama, cute red turn out of the mac.

779
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah.

780
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 5: May Dublin Kaufman shirt on.

781
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: Taking that jog around the community. You know me that

782
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: Midwest living.

783
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, her juice head son, he's in the garage listening

784
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 5: to the same song.

785
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, eating a protein or drinking a protein shake with

786
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 4: a ribbi two pounds of peanut butter in it and

787
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 4: a bong some.

788
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 5: Wait, I didn't know those things went together.

789
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe

790
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 4: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas

791
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 4: Knox with you coming up a little over ten minutes

792
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,359
Speaker 4: from now, we are going to tell you about a

793
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: problem that was identified with the NFL last season that

794
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: may have affected many of you who were watching games.

795
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 4: We'll have that for you right here on FSR. But guys,

796
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 4: tis the season for let's find out what's wrong with

797
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: players at the combine from a physical standpoint, and we're

798
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 4: going to talk about hand sizes and everything else that

799
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 4: comes along with it. Apparently there's an arm length issue

800
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,760
Speaker 4: when it comes to Miami defensive end Rubin Bain Junior,

801
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 4: who addressed about arms. He addressed these these rumors yesterday

802
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 4: in an interview.

803
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 7: None of the teams seemed to be too concern with

804
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 7: it as long as I just talking the walk play

805
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 7: with technique and nobody really asks me about it, so

806
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 7: I really don't get the kind of time a day

807
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 7: for it. That's just all stuff I can feel, like

808
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 7: you said on social media. But none of the teams

809
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 7: have been sign so I'm not to sign. If you

810
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 7: could keep bringing that upbout at level, but no teams,

811
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 7: Like I said, no teams really brought it up to me.

812
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 6: So I don't bring it up either. So apparently they

813
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 6: ain't thinking about it.

814
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 5: I mean, ain't thinking about it.

815
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: Okay, can let's just go ahead and give the details.

816
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: He was measured at approximately thirty and three quarters of

817
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: an inch arms. Okay, as far as the length, which

818
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,800
Speaker 1: is meaningful for edge rushers, right, get the hands on

819
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: the guys first. That is two to three inches shorter

820
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: than the typical NFL edge rusher. So that's why it's

821
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 1: a concern for teams.

822
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 5: Oh wow, wow. So he's not built like a t Rex.

823
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 6: No, he is built like he's not really his arms

824
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 6: are longer than that.

825
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 3: But again, here's what I would say, Lorraine's.

826
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: Got measure my arms. I want to measure this like

827
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: next off segment.

828
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 4: Lorreno's got him like he's got thumbs coming out of

829
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 4: his arm pits.

830
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 5: Thirty inches.

831
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 6: He's built strongly, though he's not like a slim built

832
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 6: type of defensive end. He's a he He passed rushes

833
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 6: like a slim defensive end. But he is a four down,

834
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 6: three down defensive end. He's big enough and sturdy enough

835
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 6: to take on rundowns as well. So I mean, it

836
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 6: only becomes a problem if it becomes a problem, and

837
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 6: I think will Campbell would be the first one to

838
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 6: tell you it's only it only becomes an issue when

839
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 6: it becomes an issue, like for now, that doesn't seem

840
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,399
Speaker 6: to be like, I don't If somebody wants to use

841
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 6: that as negotiating bait, then maybe that's how it'll work out.

842
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 6: But I think Bain is one of the more impressive

843
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 6: defenders in this year's draft, very very intriguing. I think

844
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 6: one thing that you got to take into consideration with

845
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 6: him or any of those those adge guys coming out

846
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 6: of Miami is that Jason Taylor is their coach and sinsey,

847
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 6: So where he may not have it in an inch

848
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 6: or two off of the standard, he's going to have

849
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 6: it in spades and technique and understanding of the game.

850
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 6: Jason Taylor has been a phenomenal coach and guide since

851
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 6: even starting at the high school level.

852
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 3: I think that gives him an added you know bang

853
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: that is. I think that gives him an.

854
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 6: Added level of probably trust from the scouts that are

855
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 6: looking at him.

856
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 5: I'm sure. Yeah.

857
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: I look burst of the scene as a freshman seven

858
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: and a half. Sacks had nine and a half this

859
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 1: past year. If anyone watched their run to the National Championship.

860
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: Him and Messador, the other edge rusher. They had a

861
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 1: lot to do with it. So complete player. Can you

862
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: overcome it? Of course you can, but you know the

863
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: wait and see.

864
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: We'll have to wait. That's a beauty of sports.

865
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,439
Speaker 6: You get to see a play out hour three coming

866
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 6: at you.

867
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: Joe