1 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Managers meeting. 2 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 2: Blue Jays manager John Schneider sitting next to us right 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: now in Orlando live at the Winter meetings. 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: Schnid's good to see you, man. 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 3: Thank you, good to be here. Good seeing you guys 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 3: as always. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 4: You see they put in the middle of the manager's meeting. 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 4: Do you see they put the like the last one 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 4: right in the middle, Big Tony. Yeah, like the best 10 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 4: looking manager. 11 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,160 Speaker 3: Look, it's tough. 12 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 5: To be in the same room with that guy. Just 13 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 5: had him for the first time. I was kind of like, 14 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 5: you know, cowered away quickly. It just didn't want to 15 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 5: look at him too long. 16 00:00:34,680 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: Did you say, hey, Rookie, like a third of the room. 17 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, what's up, brook Welcome to the big leagues. 18 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 6: No, well, you could get that with Terry. 19 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 5: And there's a lot of a lot of new guys. 20 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 5: I feel like not the new guy now kind of 21 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 5: a little bit. So it's nice to get to know 22 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 5: these guys too. I think Tony's doing obviously cool stuff 23 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 5: with with Tennessee and you know, really well respected, so 24 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 5: I just kind of get to know him a little bit. 25 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: How are you feeling after your October tie? 26 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 5: I mean it was I think I'm at the point 27 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 5: now where you kind of past the obsession of looking 28 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 5: at everything and being disappointed and you kind of look 29 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 5: back at all the good that we did, do you know, 30 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 5: ninety four wins compared to seventy four of the year before, 31 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 5: you know, winning the Al, winning the division, so many 32 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 5: cool stories, and I think just you know, being really 33 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 5: really proud of how we kind of raise the level 34 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 5: of expectation and standards with the Blue Jays and on 35 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 5: to twenty twenty six and how we can get back there. 36 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 6: All right. 37 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 4: So that's that's gonna lead me right to my question. 38 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 4: We had Hinch on yesterday and yeah, they lost an 39 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 4: epic series to the Mariners. So you guys went on 40 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 4: to beat When did you get over it? Because I 41 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 4: asked him, I said, are you are? When do you 42 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 4: get over it? He goes, You're thinking I'm over it? 43 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 3: Right right? 44 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:44,960 Speaker 4: And he didn't even get as far as I mean 45 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 4: you The guys were like, I mean, inches inches away 46 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 4: from having everything. 47 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 5: I got asked that yesterday, and I don't think I'll 48 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 5: ever get over it, you know. I think that the 49 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 5: only thing that gets you over it is getting back 50 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 5: there and winning it, you know. But I think just 51 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 5: you're going to all think about that he's in that 52 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 5: team and so many crazy plays forever, you know, So 53 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 5: you kind of take a lot of pride in being 54 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 5: part of it and being able to manage that. I 55 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 5: tried to really take in the days and the moments 56 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 5: before the game started and just appreciate where you are. 57 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 5: So in terms of getting over it, I think it'll 58 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 5: just be with me kind of forever. 59 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 7: What moment is it for you? Because in fourteen we 60 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 7: lost Game seven with Alex Gordon on third. For me, 61 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 7: it's the Joe panic moment where he dove back up 62 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 7: the middle to stop a ground or to start a 63 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 7: groundball double play. Like I think about that as much 64 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 7: as I think about Gordo hitting a triple in the 65 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 7: left center field gap. What's the moment for you when 66 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 7: you think about the loss, because that's what it is, 67 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 7: it's a loss. 68 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: Right What you think about? 69 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 5: The one I always go back to is bases loaded 70 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 5: and varsh in the ground ball to Rojas. 71 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 3: That's what I always go back to. 72 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 5: Like would be lying if I didn't say, you know, 73 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 5: you wake up in the middle of the night thinking 74 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 5: about that play. You know I still do not. You know, 75 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 5: every week, but maybe every couple of weeks at this point. 76 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 5: But there were so many other things. It was so 77 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 5: weird to have that play not go your way, you know, 78 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 5: by a matter of inches, and then twenty seconds later, 79 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 5: kind of the same thing happens when Ernie hits the 80 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 5: ball to left and Pages and Kik, you know, are 81 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 5: brought into each other. So you in your mind, you're 82 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 5: expecting a different outcome. You're expecting that ball to drop 83 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 5: or you're expecting, you know, a wide throw home, and 84 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 5: none of them really happened. So you just find yourself 85 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 5: in this in this moment of wow, and then you 86 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 5: kind of got you have three minutes to readjust and 87 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 5: get back to the next inning. But those obviously because 88 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 5: they were the last you know, images really for us 89 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 5: that we had a chance. And so many things though, 90 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 5: going back to Game six with the ball getting stuck 91 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 5: in the wall and you know, the eighteen inning game 92 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 5: in game three, There's just so many, but I think 93 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 5: the ones that just were the last ones is what 94 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 5: sticks out to you, all. 95 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 7: Right, So in spring training you go over things that 96 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 7: are going to help you guys win the world too. 97 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 7: That play you just talked about, the Dalton varshow play. 98 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 7: Is there anything in spring training that's going Obviously it's 99 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 7: gonna be brought up. People are gonna be like that 100 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:14,119 Speaker 7: are still there? Is there anything that will change as 101 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 7: far as the like approach to that play, how you 102 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 7: guys will approach it and from the Isaiah Kiner FILEFFA base. 103 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 5: Running Yeah, you know, I think you're always trying to 104 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 5: learn to get better, right, That's like the corporate answer, 105 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,559 Speaker 5: and that's kind of how we operate. But it gives 106 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 5: you a chance to kind of drill down a little 107 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: bit more. Looking back, I think we could have done 108 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 5: a better job of getting Izzy off a little bit. 109 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 5: You know, the it wasn't you know runner at third 110 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 5: on contact, You're just going he's reading the play, He's 111 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 5: understanding that Will Smith likes to pick the third with 112 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 5: the left handed hitter up Izz. He's a smart baseball player, 113 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 5: so all those things are going through his head. If anything, 114 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 5: just kind of drilling down a little bit more. And 115 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 5: the odds of Varsh I think lining out to third 116 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 5: are very very slim, so giving himself a little bit 117 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 5: more room off the bag and maybe that's the difference, 118 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 5: you know, So I think all those things you as 119 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 5: bad as it was in real time and as it 120 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 5: will be forever. You know, you say, what could you 121 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 5: do different? I think that's the one thing, you know, 122 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 5: that we could have done a better job for him, 123 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 5: to give him the freedom to get off a little bit. 124 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 5: But I know he's gotten the brunt of it, man, 125 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 5: and I hate that he's wearing it. You know, I 126 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 5: think the world of him as a player, and he's 127 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 5: a smart, smart baseball player. 128 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 3: So that's it. 129 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: Man. 130 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 5: If we can prepare a little bit more and just say, hey, 131 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 5: if this situation comes up and it is Dalton varshow 132 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 5: against the right handed pitcher, you can give yourself a 133 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: little bit more room. 134 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: I got two things, and I hate to bring this up, 135 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 4: but it was such a big thing. There was so 136 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 4: much back and forth. You get it right, he didn't 137 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 4: do it right. 138 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 6: Carlos Feblys, I've known forever at their base coach. You know, 139 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 6: there's the did he tell him where to stand and 140 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 6: where to start? 141 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: Right? 142 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: Fine, that's neither here nor there. My thing is, you're 143 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 4: a catchman. I was a catcher. I played in the 144 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 4: World Series, I played in huge games. There's not a 145 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: chance in holy hell that he Ain's picking a third 146 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 4: base with the World Series on the line, because all 147 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 4: he's got to do is if IKF doesn't go in, 148 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 4: it hits him in the back, it lose the word 149 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: ain't happening, right, And we had Max Munsey and he. 150 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 6: Said, oh, we had talked about it. 151 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: Bullshit. 152 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, no chance that he is. There's no chance that 153 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 4: that pick is happening. And then so that's fine. I 154 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: get you know, all these things are going through your 155 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 4: head and it's happening fast. But have you seen the 156 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 4: new thing that teams are doing. The Tigers do what 157 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 4: the Rays do it. Or there's a right handed hitter, 158 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 4: they take their guy on third and they put him 159 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 4: in fair territory and they have the runner actually take 160 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: his lead in fair territory. And I asked why they 161 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 4: do this and Hinch, Hinch, Hinch drew me a diagram. 162 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 4: But if Joey Kora had already told me why they 163 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 4: do it, and it's to get the third basement off 164 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: the line, because the chances of get Dalton VARs show 165 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: hitting a line drive to the third base and are 166 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 4: like almost zero, okay, but it makes the third baseman 167 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 4: get off the line. It takes away the pick because 168 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: the third basement's too far away. And plus when the 169 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 4: third is a sure when you look down there and 170 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: the guy's are got no lane to throw it. Yeah, 171 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 4: so and then it it eliminates let's say, bar just 172 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 4: a ground ball to third, they're already you're kind of 173 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 4: aurady in his lane to throw it home. 174 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 175 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 6: So have you seen that play? 176 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 7: Now? 177 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 6: We think talk about that, like kratsaid in spring training. 178 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that. 179 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's always things that are just kind of counter 180 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 5: counter moves to a move, you know what I mean, 181 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 5: that stuff that we have to kind of you know, 182 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 5: take into consideration for sure, and it's really hard. Like 183 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 5: I agree with you, I would. I would have been 184 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 5: shocked if we'll try to pick him off at third. 185 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 4: I will if Will Smith it picks him off at third, 186 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: I mean, you know what you say, You're like, you. 187 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: Know what, right, you got it? 188 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 5: So it's like there's all these advanced reports and it's like, okay, 189 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 5: he does do that. I think just removing yourself from 190 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 5: just the information and just saying where am I right now? 191 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 5: Is that gonna happen? Probably not, you know, I think 192 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: it's just how is he checks down? You know, what 193 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 5: I mean, his his his checkpoint, just like here's where 194 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 5: I'm at, Here's where this guy is. But yeah, I've 195 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 5: seen that play. I know the Tigers are really good 196 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 5: at those things. We've seen guys do that. I saw 197 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 5: guys they year even scoring from second and they were 198 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 5: just cutting so close they are in the grass to 199 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 5: try to make you know, a tough throw, even tougher 200 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 5: going into home plates. So those are because of that play. Yeah, 201 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 5: we've we've definitely tried to dive into some of that stuff. 202 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 7: You've seen, Vladdie. Since you guys were both babies, you 203 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 7: kind of came up through the minor leagues with him. 204 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 7: The run he put together in the playoffs, is that 205 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 7: the hottest streak? I'm even talking fisher Cat, Dunedin Blue Jay, Vladdie, Like, 206 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 7: is that the hottest streak or the most locked in 207 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 7: you've ever seen? And do you feel like maybe a 208 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 7: little bit. If it had been his free agent year, 209 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 7: it would have been a little bit tougher for him 210 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 7: to lock in. But since he had security, you know what, 211 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 7: that's where he was at. 212 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: Starting with the security part. 213 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 5: I think that when he did sign the extension, that 214 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 5: kind of freed him up a little bit and freed 215 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 5: up everyone a little bit, like, hey, here's what we're 216 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 5: doing right now, and here's what we're doing for the 217 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 5: long term. So yes, I have seen him as hot 218 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: as that before. I've never seen him as locked in, 219 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 5: you know, And I noticed it. Even we win the division, 220 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 5: we got four or five days off and we're doing 221 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: workouts at the stadium, we're doing sim games and things 222 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 5: like that. There was just a different way about him 223 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 5: even in those days leading up to the to the DS, 224 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 5: and he carried it right on through the World Series. 225 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 5: It was really cool for the world to kind of 226 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 5: see him for the player. He is not just a hitter. 227 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: Everyone thinks about the hitter. But what he did, you know, 228 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 5: running the base is what he did defensively. He was 229 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 5: just in the zone. 230 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: You know. 231 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 5: He's in that spot where elite athletes, elite performers can 232 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 5: get to. So now it's just how do you maintain that? 233 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 5: You know, That's that's the next conversation with Ladd is 234 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 5: just how do you keep yourself there as much as 235 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 5: you can? Almost impossible to do it one sixty two, 236 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 5: but he's shown he can do it. He was just 237 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 5: on a different level I think at one point, I 238 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 5: don't know if you finished the postseason, but he had 239 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 5: more home runs and strikeouts, which is which is pretty remarkable. 240 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 5: So it was fun to be in the du i 241 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 5: watching him do his thing. 242 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 4: Okay, well, then how'd you carry this over to twenty 243 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,199 Speaker 4: twenty six? You know, I know people say it's a 244 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 4: different year, and I'm not talking about just flat, I'm 245 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 4: talking about the team in general. Because you guys were humble, 246 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 4: your pitching was unbelievable, your bullpen was locked in. You 247 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 4: guys are getting huge hits from one through nine in 248 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 4: the lineup. As a manager, how do you carry this 249 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 4: over to twenty twenty six? I know every year is different, 250 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 4: but now you bringing Dylan Ceas and you're in, You're 251 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 4: there's all kinds of rumors about, you know, Toronto's kind 252 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:27,359 Speaker 4: of almost becoming like a little bit of a destination 253 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 4: place where people when to go after seeing what you 254 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 4: guys did last year? So how do you as the 255 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 4: manager carry this over to the next year? 256 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 5: So I wish I knew, you know what I mean, 257 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 5: I know a lot good problem that had though, right, 258 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 5: it's a good problem to have a lot of people 259 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 5: have been through this and we actually met last week, 260 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 5: brought the staff down here. We talked about that. It's like, 261 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 5: how do you latch onto the good things we did? 262 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 5: And it's easy to think about just the postseason, right, 263 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 5: it just happened, but it wasn't always great. You know, 264 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 5: back in April and May, we're grinding a little bit 265 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 5: and Okay, what did we do differently to get on 266 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 5: this role? 267 00:10:58,679 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 3: So I think I've said this a lot. 268 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 5: I feel like this year we've been very aligned top 269 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 5: to about him front office, to coaches, to players, and 270 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 5: down to the minor league system. So I think everyone's 271 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,719 Speaker 5: doing their part. And you know, Ross is going out 272 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 5: and he's added to really good starting pitchers already. He's 273 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 5: going to continue to try to make our team better. 274 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 5: But I think my job and the staff's job is 275 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 5: to just really stay on these guys. These guys that 276 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 5: kind of turned into household names, Ernie Clement, Madison Barger, 277 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 5: you know, Alejandra Kirk, they kind of I don't want them, 278 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 5: Nathan Lucas. I don't want them to feel like they 279 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 5: have to be anything different. That's my big I don't 280 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 5: want to say concern, but that's my focus with these 281 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 5: guys going into next year. It's just you have to 282 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 5: continue to be who you are and be good at 283 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 5: what you're good at. So that part we'll have to, 284 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 5: I think drill down on a little bit, and then 285 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 5: just what did the how did the culture get to 286 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,320 Speaker 5: where it got to and what everyone saw, you know, 287 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 5: throughout the postseason was legit and real. The guys loved 288 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 5: each other, they loved coming to the park, They pulled 289 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 5: for one another, they didn't care who got the credit. 290 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 5: So from that standpoint, we've raised that expectation. You can 291 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 5: kind of say, Okay, this is how we do things. 292 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 5: And I do think it helped, you know, teams kind 293 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 5: of took notice, and players kind of took notice. You know, 294 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 5: the feedback that I was getting in the outreach I 295 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 5: was getting during the postseason from other managers and other 296 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 5: players was phenomenal. So how do we just bottle that 297 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 5: up and say, what were we doing when it was 298 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 5: really good? 299 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 3: And let's continue to do it all? Right? 300 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 7: Well, part of that culture was one of the reasons 301 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 7: that Shane Bieber said, I'm going to pick up my 302 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 7: player option now from an outsider's view, and you can 303 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 7: tell me which of these options is the case he's 304 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 7: either hurt and wants to guarantee this one next year, 305 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 7: and so he might start a little start a little 306 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 7: later in the season. To this clubhouse culture is something 307 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 7: that's never been seen before. And he would turn down 308 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 7: thirty plus million in the off season or three. You 309 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 7: have pictures of him and so it's blackmail and you 310 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 7: brought him back, So Witches. 311 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 5: It's definitely not three. He's pretty, he's got it. He's 312 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 5: pretty button up. I think, you know, he's it's a 313 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 5: weird thing coming off of Tommy John, you. 314 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 315 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,200 Speaker 5: And he he did everything we could have hoped for 316 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 5: and more. He really fit in really well, really quickly 317 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 5: with our group. And when I say that too, it 318 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 5: was players, it was staff, and it was you know, 319 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 5: their wives and kids too. I feel like we do 320 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 5: a phenomenal job of that. So everyone kind of felt 321 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 5: at home. And as of now, I mean, Beebs is 322 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 5: on track for opening day. You know, it's anyone coming 323 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 5: off that surgery and then pitching as deep into the 324 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 5: World Series as he did coming out of the bullpen 325 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 5: in Game seven, We're going to be mindful of his workload, 326 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 5: you know. 327 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: So whether there was some doubt in his mind. 328 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 5: You know, I'm not really sure, you know, but in 329 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 5: terms of talking to him now and getting ready for spring, 330 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 5: we're just going to be mindful and kind of take 331 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 5: it week to week on how he's feeling. But the 332 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 5: expectation is that he's going to be ready for opening day. 333 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 5: So I think it's a combination maybe of the first two, 334 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 5: you know, him taking care of him self physically, but 335 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 5: at the same time being really comfortable in this surroundings. 336 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: He was in how real before we move on? 337 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 4: Because I I kind of hit on this and when 338 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 4: we were doing our postseason stuff with Tommy John. Guys, 339 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 4: especially when they first come back, it's almost every other start, right, 340 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: they had a really good start and they kind of 341 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 4: and they lose it. And we asked him because we had 342 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 4: him on and he kind of it. He kind of 343 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 4: admitted it in a weird way, like, yes, when you 344 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 4: have one really good start and the next one it's 345 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: not the same, and then the next one's really good again, 346 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 4: and then you is that a real thing for guys 347 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: that you've noticed with Tommy John? 348 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: Kind of yeah, it's it's up and down. 349 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: You know. 350 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 5: His first start to Mammy was like I think six 351 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 5: score lists punched out nine no walks, and everyone says 352 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 5: command comes last. You know, stuff is there, but command 353 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 5: comes last. He had his command throughout the whole time 354 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 5: he was back with us, and there were some ups 355 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 5: and downs, and I think it's just you spend so 356 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 5: much time on a routine, on a schedule. Here's where 357 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 5: I'm throwing, here's my side day, here's my game day. 358 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 5: You don't really have time to deload a little bit. 359 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 5: You're just going, going, going, So that probably plays into it. 360 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 5: We tried to give him, him and everyone extra rest 361 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 5: as we got down later in the season, went to 362 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 5: a six man at one point for a turn or 363 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 5: two through and you kind of never know, you know 364 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 5: what I mean to me, it's always. 365 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 3: The next year. 366 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 5: Then guys are really feeling like themselves and you know 367 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 5: they have a regular offseason, not a rehab off season, 368 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 5: and hopefully kind of hit the ground run and get 369 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 5: back to the cy young caliber picture that he has been. 370 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 4: Okay, then let's talk about another one of your pictures. 371 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 4: There's a big story that came out not too long ago. 372 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: A guy missed the World Series. Yes, did you know? 373 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 6: Did you understand? Because I know he was mad and 374 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 6: but how weird is that? 375 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 4: And then then you have a whole conversation about his 376 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 4: teammates and what do they do? So how do you 377 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: handle that going into spring training? 378 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 5: You know, I think you handle it in the off season. 379 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 5: For one, I mean, Posey's been so good for us, 380 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 5: you know, and he was not happy moving out of 381 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: the rotation. That was well documented and he probably took 382 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 5: a day to be pissed, and then you know, said, Okay, 383 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 5: this is what's best for the team, and unfortunately, you know, 384 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 5: goes on the il. He had been battling that all 385 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 5: year and he's such a prideful guy and making his starts, 386 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 5: so he was feeling he was feeling it a little bit. 387 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 5: And then when we were traveling back and forth to Seattle, 388 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 5: you know, some guys stay back. He was one of 389 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 5: those guys that stay back. And then with the World Series, 390 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 5: it was, Hey, I need to spend time with my family. 391 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 5: That's what we were told. We're obviously gonna, you know, 392 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 5: respect that, and he's a he's a big time family man. 393 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 5: And right now, you handle it the best you can. 394 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 5: You say, hey, Hosey, we're here to help you get better. 395 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 5: If he feels bad about it, or if his teammates 396 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 5: have certain feelings about it. You just got to get 397 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 5: in front of it and make sure that when everyone 398 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 5: arrives in February that everyone's kind of understanding what happened 399 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 5: and on the same page and give him a little 400 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 5: bit of forgiveness. 401 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: But you know, Jose is a great teammate. 402 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 5: He's done so much in his career, and I think that, 403 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 5: you know, when the dust settles, I think he'll be viewed, 404 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 5: you know, the exact same way as he has been 405 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 5: his entire career. 406 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 6: Good answer, do. 407 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 7: You anticipate anticipate anybody in the clubhouse, like from uprisings 408 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 7: that was happening, because we talked about it that guys 409 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 7: in the clubhouse maybe would be pissed in spring training, 410 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 7: But in the World Series, No, we gotta play on 411 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 7: the field, Like we're not like, oh, who's not here? Oh? 412 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 5: No, Like, yeah, it's in World Series. It's kind of like, hey, 413 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:19,479 Speaker 5: when does the game start? You know what I mean, 414 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 5: You're not worrying about all these other things. How are 415 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 5: we going to win tonight? I mean, really, it already 416 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 5: has started to be handled. It will be handled before 417 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 5: we get to spring training, So it's not a thing 418 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 5: in spring training. You know, it's just you know, him 419 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 5: and myself and the other guys and the team just 420 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 5: sorting through some things kind of you know, airing some 421 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 5: things out a little bit and saying, hey. 422 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 3: Hosie, you are You're part of our rotation. 423 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 5: You know, it wasn't that we wanted to take you 424 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 5: out of the rotation when we did when trade came up. 425 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 5: But you know, this is what we're doing right now 426 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 5: to try to win. Doesn't mean it's going to be 427 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 5: like that in twenty twenty six. So I think just 428 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 5: squaring that away with him and man, I mean, if 429 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 5: we're going to get back to where we want to 430 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,719 Speaker 5: get to, he's going to be a huge part of it. 431 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 3: So that'll be handled before we even get going to camp. 432 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 4: All right, twenty twenty six defending American League champions. You 433 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 4: already brought Dylan seas biggest, one of the biggest signings 434 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 4: so far of the off season. 435 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 6: What's next for the Blue Jays? Do you have any 436 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 6: say or you like, Hey, I want I want to 437 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 6: do it. 438 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 7: I can't. 439 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 6: I'm not going to name names, you know, you know, the. 440 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 5: Nation though the visitation document to visit our complex and 441 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 5: I said, no, it's only for free agents, but I'm 442 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 5: a free agent, said, I'm still a free agent. 443 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 4: I've actually been to it because my son played for 444 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 4: the Blue Jay scout team, so they used to do 445 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 4: all kinds of stuff there. 446 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 5: It's incredible, pretty nice. It's unbelieva. Yah, it's the best 447 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 5: one I've seen. I think it's one of one, I 448 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 5: really do. I think I hate though, and this is 449 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 5: me being nitpicky as hell. The stadium's not there. 450 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 4: You got to get on the bus, you know, if 451 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 4: you got the double decker bus, you guys have to 452 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 4: get on the. 453 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 5: Grid to build the whole complex by the stadium. There 454 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 5: wasn't enough land, so we kind of had to do 455 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 5: what we got to do. But in terms of what's next, 456 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 5: I think you get cees, you know, you get ponds 457 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 5: in the rotation. And we're still looking to add We're 458 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 5: still looking to add a bat. We're talking with Bo, 459 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 5: We've met with Tucker. We'd love to have Bo back, 460 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I think that what he 461 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 5: does for our lineup in our clubhouse is kind of 462 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:14,320 Speaker 5: underrated and undervalued. When you have guy like Vlad who 463 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 5: signed long term, but I think that's an area we 464 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 5: want to address, you know, make sure we have another 465 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 5: bat there and then looking for some high leverage relief options, 466 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 5: you know, at the back. 467 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: End of the pen. 468 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 5: So it's it's cool right now because we're we're hitting 469 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 5: that part. You know, this has been building for a 470 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 5: few years in Toronto in terms of ownership, support, payroll, players, facilities, 471 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: and it's it's shown on the field. So I think 472 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 5: having this success we've had makes it a little bit 473 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 5: more desirable to come here. We've definitely heard that from 474 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 5: players and agents and comfortable to say that we will 475 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 5: continue to try to get better as this month unfolds. 476 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 7: Can you put an over under on the amount of 477 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 7: starts that your organization feels Trey us average is going 478 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 7: to make. Obviously, just coming up last year now has 479 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 7: more playoff starts than regular season starts. We heard all 480 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 7: the stories, just like you hitting a home run and 481 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 7: then hanging up your cleats. They told the story like 482 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 7: a yeah, they told it though, Joe Davis told that 483 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 7: story probably seven times, sick of it. 484 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 5: So that was when the Dodgers were losing. He just 485 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 5: wanted to fill the air because when they were winning, 486 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 5: he was going crazy. Stop it, I got I got 487 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 5: a bone to pick with Joe. 488 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 6: Stop. 489 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 3: Okay, to stop broadcast anyway, stop anyway? 490 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: Okay, hold on, no, no, now we're going to have 491 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 4: a bone to pick because I do these games. Yes, 492 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 4: what you understand is whoever's winning is who they're who 493 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: we talk about, because what am I going to talk 494 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 4: about if you're losing? 495 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 5: True, maybe me hanging up my spikes as a bad 496 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 5: player at spring training. But anyway, that's a cool story. 497 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 5: That's cool story for like one second, you know what 498 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: I mean. But I think Bobashid didn't the three on 499 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 5: Homer off Otani's look cooler, and you know fly ball 500 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 5: to center that Boll's gone. 501 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: You know. 502 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 3: Anyway, that's not Wait. 503 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: So is it because he's a Dodgers guy? 504 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 6: Well, you know you sound like right now every Blue 505 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 6: Jays fan on the planet. 506 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 3: I had to get it out. 507 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 5: I was actually and he covered us the entire postseason. 508 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 5: Him and Smulti, they're awesome and he's got one of 509 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 5: the best voices in the game. I love his energy. 510 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 5: He reached out to me before it even started. If 511 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 5: we saw him for three days in l a and 512 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 5: he told me Hey, if you hit to the postseason, 513 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 5: I'm going to cover you. I got all the respect 514 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 5: in the world for him. He's really cool. I think 515 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 5: he's great at what he does. But I had to 516 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 5: get that out there. It's a little subtle. 517 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 4: I can't put my phone will be as soon as 518 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 4: this airs, my phone will be ringing and it'll be 519 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: Joe and he's gonna be like, you need to. 520 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 3: I should like text him, And I'm done with this. 521 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: Because we have this conversation all the time, Like when 522 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 4: I do games and I don't care honestly, Now Joe's 523 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 4: a little different because he I really don't care who wins, right, 524 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 4: I just want a good game. Right. 525 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 6: But as you're doing the game, if you look on 526 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 6: Twitter and you go to social media, why do you 527 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 6: like this team? Why do you like the Blue Jays? 528 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 6: Why do you hate the Dodgers? 529 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 4: Right? And then two seconds later somebody be like, why 530 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: do you love the Dodgers? Why do you hate And 531 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 4: it's the same within a minute of each other. That 532 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 4: was just depending on how you look at it. 533 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: That wasn't me. 534 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 5: We didn't hear the broadcast. That was some complaints from 535 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 5: some family and some friends and some other people around 536 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 5: because they're rotten for us, you know. So, But going 537 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,479 Speaker 5: back to Trey, going back to Trey, Uh, there's going 538 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 5: to be no restrictions, really, you know what I mean. 539 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: I think that we were really deliberate and careful with. 540 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 5: His innings this year, his first full season, and there 541 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 5: wasn't an innings limit this year, and it's going to 542 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 5: be a normal workload for him next year. I think 543 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 5: just being very mindful of his offseason work. We've already 544 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,479 Speaker 5: been in touch with him numerous times about when he's 545 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 5: starting to throw, and I think, look, looking ahead, man, 546 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,919 Speaker 5: you pencil him in to make pretty regular starts for us. 547 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 5: If that means thirty two, great, you know, if it 548 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 5: means twenty seven, great, But we're looking for him to 549 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 5: just lot right into the rotation. 550 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 6: Did you keep him hidden a whole year on purpose? 551 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: Because there's this big conspiracy theory that you guys didn't 552 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 4: want to bring him up too early because we knew 553 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 4: what we had and we don't want to show anybody. 554 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 5: There was maybe a little bit of gamesmanship, but at 555 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 5: the same time, you're not trying to call a guy 556 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 5: up in and disrupt everything he's been. He's been doing, 557 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 5: you know, just a transition to the big leagues. 558 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: You know. 559 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:15,919 Speaker 5: He came up and I think there was like two 560 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 5: weeks left in our season and he pitched against Tampa, 561 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 5: pitched against Kansas City, and then pitched against Tampa again. 562 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 6: You know, all non playoff teams, you know, but all. 563 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 5: I kind of must win games to try to win 564 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 5: the division, you know, So we the one time we 565 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 5: thought about, Okay, Boston was in there. We were playing 566 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 5: Boston at home and possible playoff opponent. Do we want 567 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 5: them to see him because it's a unique look, like 568 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 5: it's it's tough to game plan for unless you've seen it, 569 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 5: So that that played into it a little bit. That 570 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 5: was kind of the appeal to have him pitch against 571 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 5: the Yankees as well, against a veteran team that can 572 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 5: game plan really well. 573 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 3: But no, we didn't. We didn't hide him. 574 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 5: I think we wanted to wait for the right time 575 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 5: that we were really comfortable that he could contribute when he. 576 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: To come up. 577 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:59,760 Speaker 2: I have aim more something really grinding my gears that 578 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna like. It's about Dylan's pace. We 579 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: had him on yesterday. He signs with you guys, and 580 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 2: then of course, if you're a fan of say the 581 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 2: Padres are gonna miss him and you're pissed that he's 582 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 2: going somewhere else whatever. Right, so we see a lot 583 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 2: on social media and you just get the endless like, oh, 584 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: if Reuben Nablin, the Padres pitching program couldn't get him 585 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,360 Speaker 2: to be a number one, then like this is such 586 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: a bad signing whatever. I basically told this to him, Yeah, yesterday, Okay, 587 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 2: So I just wanted to get your take on how 588 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 2: you guys had conversations with him and this is zero 589 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: knock on prior teams. Let's also remember Dylan has had 590 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: cy young high level voting periods right and finishes in 591 00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: his lifetime. So I just want to get your take 592 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 2: on that, because part of his answer was about, you know, 593 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 2: his slider shape, and it seemed like he was giving 594 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: us a little taste of Hey, you can grate a pitch, 595 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: but then what if I open up a little more 596 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 2: and then you can see that pitch better? Is the 597 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: pitch really grading well in terms of the shape, but 598 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 2: they're seeing it out of my hand? So I just 599 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: thought he got really granular, and it sounded like he 600 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 2: did that with your team. 601 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 5: He did, Yeah, he's he's a he's a sharp guy, 602 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 5: you know. And I think that when you're presenting yourself 603 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 5: to these players on a zoom call with the agent 604 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 5: and all this, you didn't get a yeah. I mean 605 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 5: that might have been next if you didn't sign, might 606 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 5: have just tried to show some bells and whistles off. 607 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 5: But it was weird, Like I think, it was an 608 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 5: hour and a half conversation and we all on the 609 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 5: call kind of hit it off, you know, Pete Walker, Graham, Johnson, 610 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 5: Sam Green, bullpen coach and assistant pitching coach. They you know, 611 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 5: kind of had some ideas, you know, on a power 612 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 5: point to say, here's where we think obviously respecting his 613 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 5: stuff and his swing and miss stuff is profile of 614 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 5: all of his pitches. Dylan was pretty adamant about, Hey, 615 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 5: how can you help maximize my potential? 616 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,719 Speaker 3: And that kind of opened a door for us. 617 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 5: And I think what we've been we've been a really 618 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 5: good job of hiring coaches that have good content, but 619 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 5: they can coach it, you know. So when you get 620 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 5: into that little presentation some biomechanical stuff, some pitch design 621 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 5: stuff with Sam and Graham, and then you kind of 622 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 5: finish off the pitching thought as a whole with Pete 623 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 5: Walker was going into year fifteen with the Blue Jays. 624 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 5: It's a pretty inviting thing to have for a picture 625 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 5: who's very well aware of how his stuff works. So 626 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 5: we felt when we hung up the phone that it 627 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: was a really good match. He had some really cool 628 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 5: feedback in that in that call, and you know, Scott 629 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 5: Morris followed up with Ross and said he was really 630 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 5: impressed with what we had to offer. So it happened 631 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 5: quick really. I mean we signed him maybe like a 632 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: week later after that call. And so everyone's different. You know, 633 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 5: some guys they don't want all that information. We have 634 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 5: it all, and he was a guy that really seemed 635 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 5: like he wanted to hear it all, so that I 636 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 5: think played into it. 637 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 3: And Dylan's an easy guy to. 638 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 7: Like, right. Last one. First of all, Trey needs somebody 639 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 7: to throw with. I'm just twenty minutes south of him, 640 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 7: so give him my phone number. If he needs somebody 641 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,119 Speaker 7: a long toss I'll go, Ye are you. 642 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: Still long, Austin? Are you still long? 643 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: Toosson? 644 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 645 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm high school coach. I got to show these kids, 646 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,640 Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure. By ucl Is gone though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 647 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 7: but it's the days are numbered. But my last comment 648 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 7: is during the World Series, we have a group thread 649 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 7: that you're not on called the Round Up Slayers. It's 650 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 7: it's Brad Hasse, drag Yesovich and we were all going, 651 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,640 Speaker 7: I mean, it's it's the Crew, Veto Chaer Belati, everybody, 652 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 7: Carlo Coda. We were all going to come up if 653 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 7: you guys won the World Series, we were going to 654 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 7: come up and surprise you at the parade. So just 655 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 7: remember that when you're pushing the rest of the year. 656 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, all right, Well that is a carrot at 657 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 5: the end of the stick that is like no other. 658 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 5: To try to win it next year, joining the parade 659 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 5: and if I do see you guys, there'll be some 660 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 5: beers involved and drinks and beyond me. 661 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: That was it that pushes you over the top. 662 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's all that's all I need. Right, So I 663 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: want to know. 664 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 6: Where your cleats are They still hanging somewhere? 665 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's some backfield in Saint Pete, you know, somewhere. 666 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 4: Three Carlos Klado he got them put them on. 667 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 8: What was his name, Kretzi who you said Carlos was 668 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 8: one of the guys car are a ball double Carlow Coda, Yeah. 669 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 6: He took that. 670 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: Plus Carlos Colaso from. 671 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 7: Uh Jose, Ambria took him because he was. 672 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: He was standard standard. Yeah, I'll make it work. 673 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: You give it to me, I'll fit. It's good to 674 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: see you man, Thanks for your guy. 675 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 2: Appreciate to catch up and see you After all that, 676 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: it was a freaking hell of a bride to watch. 677 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 3: Thanks man. It's fun to be part of and hopefully 678 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: we get bactors