Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey ladies, Hi, it is the last week of school.
Speaker 2: Oh thank goodness, we are all most there.
Speaker 3: Slowly things are sweetly falling off the calendar. Kind of
Speaker 3: do we feel that I don't know. I want to
Speaker 3: believe that it was a deep breath in between.
Speaker 1: I no, yeah, I just feel like here at the end,
Speaker 1: there's zero point for them to still be there, minus
Speaker 1: like a few exams here cal A. I get a
Speaker 1: text every day I know I'm doing nothing.
Speaker 2: Can I leave? You know?
Speaker 1: And it's like already for high school, they do let
Speaker 1: you kind of come and go when you've got exams
Speaker 1: and stuff. But then like in middle school, they'll have
Speaker 1: an exam that morning and then it's just movie still
Speaker 1: or the rest of the wish all his movies, Julie.
Speaker 2: So they were watching a movie. I watched a movie yesterday.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you can't get mad at me for
Speaker 1: all the absences because they're not doing anything.
Speaker 2: So it's like, you know it.
Speaker 1: I was leaving to come here today and the line
Speaker 1: was like a normal school line. Everyone's leaving at like
Speaker 1: twelve thirty.
Speaker 2: I'm like, just call it, Yes, be done. Yeah, just
Speaker 2: be done. What's the point. Sorry, that's my that's my.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry sorry. Things will be changing though, and well
Speaker 2: it's starting in June. We're going to have a different
Speaker 2: layout again. But it's going to be more episodes and
Speaker 2: split up a bit. It's going to be we're gonna
Speaker 2: basically it's not going to be because this right now
Speaker 2: will be a week delayed. It won't be a week delayed.
Speaker 2: It'll be very topical. So what we're talking about, it
Speaker 2: airs that day extra risk for all of us in
Speaker 2: our big mouths. I can't wait perfect a good point.
Speaker 2: Oh things I think about.
Speaker 1: Things change so fast, I know, even for us and
Speaker 1: for the headlines and all the things. And so it's
Speaker 1: just like smart it comes out a week later, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, it's iHeart Smart.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's kab So I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: have to really check myself my big opinions.
Speaker 2: It'll be good, it'll be good, guys. I'm having a
Speaker 2: bit of uh karma. Oo oh interesting. I don't love
Speaker 2: it when that comes back around me. Neither. My grass
Speaker 2: is dead huh oh. And it's not anyone's fault, but
Speaker 2: the sprinkler system and the drought's happening. The drought would
Speaker 2: be my grass is always dead. But here's the problem.
Speaker 2: You guys know how much I love my yard. It
Speaker 2: is so dead. But our sprinkler system isn't working, so
Speaker 2: our our rain sensor keeps tripping, and poor Alan is
Speaker 2: to go out. We have all these different zones, so
Speaker 2: he has to go out and then manually do it
Speaker 2: because it doesn't just and then we will we've uncensored
Speaker 2: the rain thing. And I go, this is our karma
Speaker 2: for not letting use our yard. Wait did we say
Speaker 2: no to that? Oh that's I sorry. Well, no, I
Speaker 2: I came apologizing. Okay, okay, I do it was I
Speaker 2: felt awful for talking about it. Hmmm.
Speaker 3: I would like to just speak a little life into
Speaker 3: our little section of the world. It's hard because we
Speaker 3: are all experiencing real life things, the three of us, like,
Speaker 3: we're really doing very normal life. We just happen to
Speaker 3: get in here and we curl up with you guys, and.
Speaker 2: We update each other everything that's happened.
Speaker 3: So literally, and so I think it's also I think
Speaker 3: it's great that you apologize, and I think it's great
Speaker 3: you're acknowledging that I just also want to normalize the
Speaker 3: sharing of our world.
Speaker 2: I think what I where I had to step in
Speaker 2: and look, was though I thought it was a great topic.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, it's someone to it's someone else's How do
Speaker 2: I say this, Like being on the other side of
Speaker 2: it might not feel as good. Absolutely sure, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Like it wasn't even though I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: I think it's such a great topic to talk about,
Speaker 2: and then you know on here we embellish things a
Speaker 2: bit and you know, oh, we got to keep it entertaining,
Speaker 2: so it's just And then so when I have to
Speaker 2: just be mindful because I'm like, I wasn't disrespectful and
Speaker 2: this that, But I'm like, oh, but it's still to
Speaker 2: be on the other side might have not felt great.
Speaker 2: And that's where I'm like, oh, I'm like, I suck.
Speaker 2: So I felt really bad. Well you don't suck. And
Speaker 2: then I'm like, take all my yard. I don't care too.
Speaker 2: But they had already figured out a different plan, and
Speaker 2: than I just felt too more okay, so they figured
Speaker 2: out another plan.
Speaker 1: I will say, anytime we talk about something, we always
Speaker 1: go back and say, did that was that disrespectful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think that's always been our.
Speaker 1: Thing because I never I'm like, yeah, we never want
Speaker 1: to disrespect someone, but I think what ends up happening
Speaker 1: is nine times out of ten we're not necessarily disrespecting anyone.
Speaker 1: But like you said, it still just doesn't feel good
Speaker 1: being talked about. Yeah, And that's where it gets tricky
Speaker 1: because we are very mindful of being disrespectful. But I
Speaker 1: can see where okay, but I might just not want
Speaker 1: you to share that.
Speaker 2: That happened between me and yeah, And that's.
Speaker 1: Where it gets very very tricky on here, and we're
Speaker 1: all trying to be a little bit more mindful of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I think we're very good at making sure we're
Speaker 1: as respectful as possible.
Speaker 2: Yes, But then I think that because like natives can be,
Speaker 2: you know, and don't I never want any negative. And
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my gosh, I just we get
Speaker 2: on here and we just all up. But then I said,
Speaker 2: oh crap, KB, Like was I because I just said
Speaker 2: how great you know? And then and then it is
Speaker 2: just the other side. But even so, like you know,
Speaker 2: when I share life stuff, well, why did you say
Speaker 2: this about you know that being your best childhood memory
Speaker 2: because it was you know, and so it's again it's
Speaker 2: though that was I wasn't trying to be disrespectful and
Speaker 2: it is my it was like and that's okay, and
Speaker 2: not playing characters like this is our world. Yeah, I'm like,
Speaker 2: there was nothing. I didn't say anything bad about you,
Speaker 2: mom or dad, like you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 2: this is just that was my reality and my truth.
Speaker 2: And I wasn't trying to be disrespectful. But again being
Speaker 2: on the opposite side of things. And also some people
Speaker 2: live in a fence and that's not ours to deal
Speaker 2: with too. Yeah, but like my husband, I think parents potentially,
Speaker 2: I mean, I can write again that's what I was.
Speaker 1: Yea, I could see that being I can already see
Speaker 1: into the future. If my child were to say that
Speaker 1: even if that's that reality, that that would hurt me.
Speaker 2: But I'm still saying it's a great I'm not sorry though,
Speaker 2: but I'm not saying it. I would say it.
Speaker 3: I would say it as the cadid arguments of not
Speaker 3: yourselves and parents of not yourselves.
Speaker 1: And that's my issue is I would do it all
Speaker 1: day long as the kid, and then I go, oh god,
Speaker 1: But if Kaden Britten and me or Ramsey were to
Speaker 1: do that, that would hurt my feelings.
Speaker 2: And so it's like I try.
Speaker 1: I look at that, and I'm like, I still want
Speaker 1: to be able to share my truth and how I
Speaker 1: grew up and all the things. But then I'm like ooh, man,
Speaker 1: like I just can't get it all right all the time.
Speaker 1: So of course they're going to remember those those times
Speaker 1: and that's what they would be talking about, and I
Speaker 1: can see where that would be hard to hear.
Speaker 2: Then as you grow up, as you get older, I
Speaker 2: mean I kind of maybe left out that it was
Speaker 2: my only good child one word, I'll change it all.
Speaker 2: But it was, you know, I mean it was a joke,
Speaker 2: a running joke, you know. So I think that's and
Speaker 2: I'm like, Lisa had a good memory. Yeah, see, we
Speaker 2: see the positive. So positive. I'm like, why am I
Speaker 2: getting in there?
Speaker 3: No, guys, somebody came through the meet and greet line
Speaker 3: the other day instead of resting.
Speaker 2: WHOA, you're really screwed it up on the blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: And he was.
Speaker 3: Like, I am what And they're like, oh, listen to
Speaker 3: the podcast. He's like, so apparently you threw me under
Speaker 3: the bus, and I was like, I don't I think it.
Speaker 3: I remember the episode. Well, I don't even need to
Speaker 3: revisit it. That's up to you, dear listeners, if you
Speaker 3: want to go digging. But I but I also it's
Speaker 3: like they watched just the piece of it and they're
Speaker 3: not listening to the whole episode where we very very
Speaker 3: candidly threw ourselves under the bus. And well, it just
Speaker 3: happens a lot.
Speaker 1: I mean, nine times out of ten, if it's something
Speaker 1: I've talked about with Nick and he just sees the clip,
Speaker 1: he like goes and listens, He's like, oh, that wasn't
Speaker 1: bad at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like usually great marketing. Pretty he's pretty good at
Speaker 2: that though.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, at the same time, it's like
Speaker 1: if you actually go listen and not just take the
Speaker 1: clip that they post.
Speaker 3: The clips are funny, the editing's been epic. I'm like, man,
Speaker 3: if I'm not us is awesome. But if I'm us,
Speaker 3: I'm a little bit yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 2: Of a belliech But needless to say, Karma's biting me
Speaker 2: and they and my grass is dead, kills my grass hearts.
Speaker 2: It's supposed to rain coming up, I know, thank goodness.
Speaker 2: We just can't get this.
Speaker 3: I live across from two empty nesters, and they are
Speaker 3: impeccable with their lawns. Mister John and mister Dan. If
Speaker 3: you're listening, and you never will, you are, They're they're
Speaker 3: my goals. They look like golf courses. I they're out
Speaker 3: there with little trimmers like shears every day and mister
Speaker 3: John will sometimes spray his lawn and color. If there's
Speaker 3: little green pat dry, I'm out then I can spray
Speaker 3: my grass because I'm gonna be out there today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a black there. It's going to be a
Speaker 2: par four by dinner, not a girl Cramer.
Speaker 1: Oh no, good Well that's funny.
Speaker 2: So format's changing and always for That's about. That's about
Speaker 2: all I got. Okay, school lending.
Speaker 3: You guys, I am on our topics of.
Speaker 2: Whether to share or not to share.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm usually like just share, but I'm trying to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more.
Speaker 3: I'm protecting my client strong on this because it's Leggie kid,
Speaker 3: yeah and your client. But I also am like, I
Speaker 3: want to share these things because I know that we
Speaker 3: all go through these things and it's sometimes I find
Speaker 3: a lot of comedy. As we know in the storm
Speaker 3: of motherhood. But I went to go pick up Leggie
Speaker 3: and Love from school yesterday and they again just reminding
Speaker 3: everyone we go just two days a week to tutorial,
Speaker 3: so we only need to keep ourselves together for.
Speaker 2: Two days out of the week.
Speaker 3: And we had a recent incident a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 3: At pickup, it was fine, sweet talking. They're wonderful, wonderful humans,
Speaker 3: and they approach everything with the most grace, like we
Speaker 3: are just so lucky.
Speaker 2: We have truly a sweet spot.
Speaker 3: However, I go to pick up Leggie yesterday, I'm intercepted
Speaker 3: in the middle of the lawn by our director and
Speaker 3: she says, I have to intercept you, and I go, nope, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: what did he do? And so I start to guess,
Speaker 3: which made it worse, and she said we just needed
Speaker 3: to have a talk because Leggie was telling the class
Speaker 3: he was drunk and then he had drugs.
Speaker 2: Oh what what?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Wrote?
Speaker 3: And coming from the upbringing, I had ready to hear that.
Speaker 2: Did you ask him? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, And listen when President and I are
Speaker 3: both looking at each other like you guys, I can't
Speaker 3: even articulate how absolutely opposite my household is my husband's
Speaker 3: never done a drug in his life, literally, which I
Speaker 3: know is shocking to people. Like I've done more than
Speaker 3: he ever, he's never done anything. Like we're just drugs.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, like the light ones. There's light ones.
Speaker 2: I don't know there are there are well like we.
Speaker 3: Yes, not like I've never done coke or anything like
Speaker 3: you guys. I read the dayre graduation speech, like, obviously
Speaker 3: a lot of.
Speaker 1: People don't say that weed is really drugs anymore. So
Speaker 1: I think that's the worst.
Speaker 2: I still think it's a drug, right, That's why I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying to be Yea and ones and
Speaker 2: I'm like, there's I only have one, yeah, which I've
Speaker 2: never done. Okay, but yeah, see so like and Preston's like,
Speaker 2: they're just we don't even that's a big deal, Like
Speaker 2: we don't do I did that like a couple of
Speaker 2: times and I'm just not good at it.
Speaker 3: So I was like, I'm out good at it anyways.
Speaker 3: It's like he doesn't know what he's saying, you know.
Speaker 3: And Preston We've had to kind of chat it out
Speaker 3: at home. Preston's constantly we're running a record label. Ot
Speaker 3: of our home. Well, those calls in our industry are
Speaker 3: not super buttoned up, often not super professional, So there's
Speaker 3: words being throwd around, like we've we've had the talk, right,
Speaker 3: and he's never seen me drunk. I don't even know
Speaker 3: if I've really been drunk in his lifetime, Like you know,
Speaker 3: the ship is sailed. So anyways, we had to have
Speaker 3: this moment where we're sitting down and Preston and I
Speaker 3: are both looking at each other like, well, I will
Speaker 3: say this first. I could feel it come over me
Speaker 3: to my point earlier of living in a fence. I
Speaker 3: felt a certain way because I grew up that way
Speaker 3: and I'm cycle breaking, so it just felt deeply personal
Speaker 3: to me that we're even.
Speaker 2: Using terms like that.
Speaker 3: But then it was I was reminded by another friend
Speaker 3: who's just also grew up. Oh, She's like, listen, that's
Speaker 3: because he has no reference. So that's what makes this
Speaker 3: innocent and sweet and a mistake is because he you
Speaker 3: and I would never say those things because we were
Speaker 3: so deeply entrenched in trying to figure it out and
Speaker 3: holding all of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Anyways, so we had to have a real chat yesterday.
Speaker 3: But it's also hard because I'm looking at his seven
Speaker 3: year old self with his forever teeth growing in in
Speaker 3: the front, and he's weeping because we are coming down
Speaker 3: hammer style and not not like aggressive at him, but
Speaker 3: just like this is what happens, Like we talk about biblically,
Speaker 3: like the tongue has power, it holds power, and you
Speaker 3: can't be saying things like this. If you were at
Speaker 3: a different school, this could be a very bigger issue,
Speaker 3: you know, like they have an obligation of file reports
Speaker 3: and call police and and mom and dad could be investigated,
Speaker 3: like you know, like Paus for a.
Speaker 1: Second, he said I have drugs?
Speaker 2: What words?
Speaker 3: Because he did, he said for a reason, look at me,
Speaker 3: I'm drunk, right, He's saying he heard it from someone
Speaker 3: else in college.
Speaker 2: Of course, these are these little Christian tator talks are
Speaker 2: just running around. They have no idea what they're saying.
Speaker 2: All the kids are running around saying things.
Speaker 3: And sure, we watch really great programming, but even back
Speaker 3: in our nineties sitcoms, we were still remember Jesse Spano,
Speaker 3: I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: Yep, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So anyways, it was just I was just referencing if
Speaker 1: he said I have drugs, because that is a different well,
Speaker 1: and he did.
Speaker 2: If he says that in school, yeah, if.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to tell him, right, it's like
Speaker 3: you know, saying bomb and the airplane, we just don't
Speaker 3: don't say that.
Speaker 2: What are you doing?
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 3: Bomb? Why are we the way we are? Anyways? I
Speaker 3: don't want to dominate our time. I just had that
Speaker 3: real parenting moment where I was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: just speak a little life into the moms out there
Speaker 3: that we could be doing our very diligent best and
Speaker 3: still or will Ferrell want to be a son? Will
Speaker 3: say things like I'm drunk and is Christian Jesus school?
Speaker 3: He only tends eight hours a week?
Speaker 2: And he did? He say which friend he heard that? Funt?
Speaker 2: He did?
Speaker 3: And I actually texted the other mom and was just like, hey,
Speaker 3: this is didn't text the director. I'm not bringing anybody else.
Speaker 3: I'm responding to my client's issues only, but just wondering,
Speaker 3: like where it's coming from, because if he is somebody
Speaker 3: had heard it from legend, which of course they did,
Speaker 3: one of.
Speaker 2: Them did yesterday. I would want to know.
Speaker 3: So we checked in with each other and everyone's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we don't really know, Like we couldn't get the origin
Speaker 3: of it, but well, I just would go back to
Speaker 3: he thought he would be funny. So that's the closure
Speaker 3: there is he was like, I don't. I mean you guys,
Speaker 3: it is the most heartbreaking moment where I'm looking at
Speaker 3: his life from thirty thousand feet and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 3: having this really serious talk with you at seven and
Speaker 3: I just you're just not this guy. And he's like,
Speaker 3: I just said it, and I thought i'd say it
Speaker 3: too and it would be funny. But his big tears
Speaker 3: and his forever teeth and they're so big, and he's
Speaker 3: got these big feelings and he's you know, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: is fake tattoos on his hands. And I was like, oh, buddy,
Speaker 3: like you're But also I had to drive the point home.
Speaker 3: They just don't know what they don't know. And I said,
Speaker 3: one of the biggest rules in our house is we
Speaker 3: don't say things we don't understand. And he doesn't understand that.
Speaker 3: So I was like, you broke a rule in the
Speaker 3: way that you don't understand what you're saying, and you're
Speaker 3: saying it and so it's not funny, it's serious.
Speaker 1: Well, and that's what's hard, because they don't know but
Speaker 1: also I do think that's why it's important for them
Speaker 1: to know.
Speaker 3: Right, And we've had the drugs and alcohol talk with
Speaker 3: love more so, but we've talked. I mean, you guys,
Speaker 3: I'm very open about the way I grew up and well,
Speaker 3: and also things are just more dangerous now. They're getting
Speaker 3: them at a young age. They could take they could
Speaker 3: try something.
Speaker 1: One time, Oh, we were talking about drugs and taking
Speaker 1: pills from people from like little little because they ever
Speaker 1: had Because the problem is now I've never even heard
Speaker 1: them say anything about it. No, And the only reason
Speaker 1: I did young was because of if someone at school
Speaker 1: were to say, oh, you a headache, here's an advill
Speaker 1: and it not really be an advil. Like my kids
Speaker 1: are not even allowed to technically take advill from people
Speaker 1: because just things can be laced. Now, it's just like
Speaker 1: a different ball game with fitneal can be an amy.
Speaker 2: I don't like taking the Adville from your little plastic bag.
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're exactly exactly that's what I will take.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And because you know, there's just so many situations
Speaker 1: now where kids will you know, just take a pill
Speaker 1: they're given. And you know, I've talked about that and
Speaker 1: that's why we take and so that's why. So but
Speaker 1: also like tell me, like that's such a nat like hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a conversation, like we can't say this, but like
Speaker 1: also like.
Speaker 3: Listen, the director was as sweet as she can be.
Speaker 3: She was as calm, and she was she can't dismiss it, right,
Speaker 3: and she wasn't going to.
Speaker 1: Saying I have drugs, but like you know, and you
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 2: I say, the kid needs a legal team.
Speaker 3: I mean, the kid is like, I'm like, come on, buddy,
Speaker 3: But also I did. I was thankful because I'd want
Speaker 3: to know and I just don't want him to be
Speaker 3: the kid that is getting that rep either that like
Speaker 3: he's saying that, you know, you can't never count on
Speaker 3: what he's gonna say, or.
Speaker 1: Like well I always had this situation. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: some people don't drink in front of their kids at all.
Speaker 1: I do drink in front of my kids when I drink.
Speaker 1: I don't drink often, but I have. But for the
Speaker 1: longest time, Emmy would say are you getting drunk? And
Speaker 1: I and even at fourteen, I had to recently have
Speaker 1: a conversation with her and the difference, and it's very
Speaker 1: hard to explain because a any drink, she don't want
Speaker 1: them ever getting behind the wheel, obviously, But there is
Speaker 1: a difference between drinking and getting drunk, because she would
Speaker 1: say things like, oh, my mom's getting drunk, and I
Speaker 1: will have had a glass of you know, I'm like
Speaker 1: having a glass of wine, and I'm like, there's a
Speaker 1: very big difference. And when you go and tell someone
Speaker 1: my mom's getting drunk, there's a very big difference between
Speaker 1: that and I'm having a drink. Having said that, you
Speaker 1: also have to understand that having a drink makes you
Speaker 1: impaired though, so you can't drive, you can't do things
Speaker 1: even if you have one. It just gets so intricate,
Speaker 1: fine line. But for the longest time, she would say
Speaker 1: anytime any drink, anyone was having a drink. If she
Speaker 1: would have seen you having a glass of wine later,
Speaker 1: she would have been like, oh, Jana was getting drunk.
Speaker 1: Like that's just what she thought, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like she only knew drunk. She didn't know the difference.
Speaker 1: It's like you drank, you were drunk, you know. So
Speaker 1: it's like also like teaching those little intricacies, you know.
Speaker 1: So like that kid that he heard it from might
Speaker 1: just know like kind of be the same way it is,
Speaker 1: just you know, they don't it can be.
Speaker 2: A lyric from a song like that's the thing. We
Speaker 2: were like, I mean, can you guys, it can be
Speaker 2: a million things that.
Speaker 3: They're hearing a million things like one j Z song
Speaker 3: and he's out you know, like it's yep. So and
Speaker 3: I and I wasn't shifting responsibility. I just looked at
Speaker 3: Preston and I was like, well, in your catalog there
Speaker 3: is a song called Drunk Drunk, Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 3: like they are exposed to these things and it maybe
Speaker 3: is confusing. So our encouragement is always just asked the question.
Speaker 3: That's a very good yeah, and we don't there's a
Speaker 3: rule in our house you never will get in more trouble,
Speaker 3: you get in less trouble if you tell the truth.
Speaker 2: So that's that is the number one yeah. Yeah, And
Speaker 2: so it just was a it will be worse if
Speaker 2: you lie, you.
Speaker 3: Know, And the life lesson was just I just was like,
Speaker 3: I mean I must have been the look on my face.
Speaker 3: She texted me last night to say, my heart is
Speaker 3: with your mama heart because I think I was just
Speaker 3: like what like and all the things I thought he
Speaker 3: would have said, this kid is coming from like the
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just was wild. So all the moms out there
Speaker 2: happened to us, all.
Speaker 3: Running that DARE program, not knowing that you needed to.
Speaker 3: It's seven years old. I just want you know I'm
Speaker 3: standing solidarity with you, and we in fact aren't drunk
Speaker 3: or doing drugs thereouse and only like drugs.
Speaker 2: Apparently I wanted to go back to damn made a
Speaker 2: light to drug.
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not going to sit here in lie to
Speaker 3: the people. Of course, I've tried that, and I you know,
Speaker 3: I'm not proud. It wasn't great, and I just I'm
Speaker 3: not I don't do it, but it was just a
Speaker 3: wild time, but it did.
Speaker 2: I will say this.
Speaker 3: It felt really good to be able to say to him,
Speaker 3: you've never seen your parents drunk.
Speaker 2: And you can do don't do hard.
Speaker 1: So I don't really have to explain now between light
Speaker 1: drugs and hard drugs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, did you want me to have that talk with
Speaker 2: your kids? You feel like I'm the best to do that.
Speaker 3: Janna, would you like to pop in And we've talked
Speaker 3: about that as well. Aunt Kristen's here to tell you
Speaker 3: about light drugs.
Speaker 2: And our drugs. Damn it. Like I've got to chat
Speaker 2: about with my kids and we still haven't even had
Speaker 2: the yeah baby combo yeahs or anything. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, we just are living in a different world. So
Speaker 3: we're all just doing the best we tend to team.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just didn't see it coming. So of
Speaker 3: all the households, anybody else got a whine, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to, but I have to pin one, and I
Speaker 3: will not.
Speaker 2: Forget it because.
Speaker 3: To our earlier point, I don't know how to I
Speaker 3: don't know how to say it without it being a
Speaker 3: personal thing in people knowing and people listening.
Speaker 2: I'm going to whine about myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you know this is because then we're not
Speaker 1: going to offend anyone's Like, well, it does involve someone else,
Speaker 1: but it's you vend yourself great, and it's like.
Speaker 2: Really just like silly.
Speaker 1: But like we all know that I hate small talk, right,
Speaker 1: we all know that like small talk?
Speaker 2: Like just I'm.
Speaker 4: Processing this, Yes, like hate it, like yes, as much
Speaker 4: as I love that my kids do sports and like
Speaker 4: all the things like going and sitting and like talking
Speaker 4: to me, I have my cheer moms, I never want
Speaker 4: new ones.
Speaker 2: You know, just dabeakat cheer, don't talk to her. She
Speaker 2: doesn't want to talk to you. So that's my social cat.
Speaker 2: That's not my wine.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is my wine, is that it's not
Speaker 1: true that I don't want friends. It's that and so
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that exactly. That's my wine.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: So you know it took me a while to get those,
Speaker 1: and then it just was kind of relatively easy, right,
Speaker 1: and it just kind of like, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: is in a social part of my life more, but
Speaker 1: it's with the awkward you know, someone broke the awkwardness.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 2: It's a whole story.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I'm sitting at the softball field the other day
Speaker 1: and already, you know, I put that off, you know,
Speaker 1: I posted a meme one day and add everyone responding
Speaker 1: to me, like the moms from the softball teams, all
Speaker 1: the things, because it was basically like how much I
Speaker 1: hate small talk.
Speaker 2: I'm really not a bitch, but like I just act
Speaker 2: like it, you know.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so I'm sitting there obviously not talking to
Speaker 1: anyone but my family, and it's not like I don't
Speaker 1: like these people. That's the sad thing, you know, it's
Speaker 1: like I don't know them well enough to like them or.
Speaker 2: Not like them, right, and you never will.
Speaker 1: That's what I Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: And so I'm never going to have more friends. No,
Speaker 2: it's it's not that.
Speaker 1: But I'm sitting there and there's a sweet woman who
Speaker 1: I've talked to a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know. This is what she said a few things.
Speaker 2: She's really sweet.
Speaker 1: I try to insert myself the other day, but it's
Speaker 1: just awkward, like I need advice because I don't know
Speaker 1: how you just like, not justly looking at me. You're
Speaker 1: just really good at it. You're just you are. You're
Speaker 1: especially good at it. Okay, I think I'm especially in
Speaker 1: truth to be honest. That that's what I need, like
Speaker 1: a happy medium. I did try to insert myself the
Speaker 1: other day and then it just felt like awkward with
Speaker 1: this one mom.
Speaker 2: But she's super sweet.
Speaker 1: Anyway, We're sitting there and she goes, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: she was like, so.
Speaker 2: She do nowhere? She goes, there was a pos.
Speaker 1: So yeah, she goes, So I listen to that podcast
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh gosh, okay, okay, all right,
Speaker 1: and she was like, but I never watched the videos before.
Speaker 2: And then I watched a video the other day and.
Speaker 1: She was like, and you're on the podcast right. So
Speaker 1: I literally sit there and I'm like, huh, and that
Speaker 1: was it.
Speaker 3: Well, Also, seven thousand things go through your brain when
Speaker 3: somebody says that they listen thousand things?
Speaker 2: How many things?
Speaker 1: Instead of saying those seven thousand things, I literally just
Speaker 1: shut down and I sat there and I was like,
Speaker 1: in my head, I was like, I seem like the
Speaker 1: biggest bitch. She listens to this and now she hates me,
Speaker 1: Like I hope you're listening today because I don't hate you.
Speaker 2: I don't know pleased out to me.
Speaker 1: I need your friend, Like I don't know what to
Speaker 1: say or to do. And it is the biggest like
Speaker 1: whine of mine lately, because I'm like, I'm forty two
Speaker 1: years old. How have I not figured out to how
Speaker 1: to follow up with someone I don't know when they
Speaker 1: are talking to me? Like that sounds so silly and
Speaker 1: so stupid. No, but it's it's bad.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's bad. I do think there's a something.
Speaker 3: A girlfriend and I just talked about this yesterday actually
Speaker 3: via voice memo. There's such a low tolerance at our
Speaker 3: age for like bringing someone into the fold maybe too,
Speaker 3: because I think we have established who we are, we
Speaker 3: know what we love.
Speaker 1: And I get that, but that's not necessarily where I'm at.
Speaker 2: Is it anything you're afraid of? I maybe not being
Speaker 2: included if or them maybe not.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's them not liking me or feeling like like
Speaker 1: I just don't know how to make the small talk.
Speaker 1: I don't know where to go make me How do
Speaker 1: I say, oh, my gosh, thanks for listening, because that
Speaker 1: doesn't feel natural to me.
Speaker 2: But that sounded natural, yeah, because it doesn't. I'm you know,
Speaker 2: like I don't know.
Speaker 1: Like if I'm you, then like I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting here.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was just the most uncomfortable situation I've ever been in,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I really want to kind of
Speaker 1: be friends with this girl.
Speaker 2: So I think if you want to be friends with
Speaker 2: the person, to always respond back with a question, because
Speaker 2: then it sounds like you're interested you, you're interested in them,
Speaker 2: you know. I think that's so how long have you
Speaker 2: been listening to the podcast?
Speaker 3: Something I need to do, Like me, do.
Speaker 2: What I should have said? Do you love me or
Speaker 2: hate me? You should go back? So I literally it's
Speaker 2: a question, and that's a very true, authentic response. You
Speaker 2: want to talk to someone, it's if you end it
Speaker 2: with the period. Then the conversation it was just.
Speaker 1: An awkward laugh and then it was like she will
Speaker 1: never speak to me again.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: It's interesting though, because Alan and I have been talking
Speaker 2: about this because we're like we want to find it.
Speaker 2: Like we're interviewing couples friends, a couple of friends, couple
Speaker 2: friends to have, you know, like thinking about the lake
Speaker 2: and like who to come, and it's like, I love
Speaker 2: you girls, but like my husband had to take me
Speaker 2: to see Devil Wars PRODATU right, And I'm like this
Speaker 2: is a problem. Well it's also in me like come on,
Speaker 2: but I'm just like saying I'm like I I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: who else can we kind of like around the same
Speaker 2: age or time to hang out or like you know,
Speaker 2: I was just talking to Ali Webb yesterday about you know,
Speaker 2: she's like, I'm looking for friends. I'm like, well, let's
Speaker 2: do it. Let's do it, you know, a double date
Speaker 2: with the husbands, and like, you know, it's just because
Speaker 2: it's but it's hard, you know, because I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't you know, and then I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: sometimes to know if people don't like me because I
Speaker 2: talk about it, maybe i'm podcast or so then I'm like,
Speaker 2: I get like the husband has to like the husband
Speaker 2: and the wife has and then it's like and then
Speaker 2: the kids got to like the kids, and it's the
Speaker 2: whole thing. And so but we are you know, I
Speaker 2: have been more talkative at the baseball games because I'm like, okay, great, like,
Speaker 2: you know, this person's son and jas are really close,
Speaker 2: and like the wife seems really cool and the dad
Speaker 2: seems cool. Like let's start talking to them and the like,
Speaker 2: you know, they can come visit the lake or you know,
Speaker 2: it's just getting more, you know. But it's also hard
Speaker 2: because the time as well. So yeah, but no, that's
Speaker 2: that's so true.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing, like I don't necessarily have even
Speaker 1: time to hang out with my friends. Yes, so it's
Speaker 1: not like and I see this is maybe where I
Speaker 1: come off bad. So it's not like I'm looking for
Speaker 1: friends for that. Yeah, but I don't want to be
Speaker 1: the mom sitting at the ball field talking to no one. Yea.
Speaker 1: I actually love being social once I get to know people,
Speaker 1: I mean, I hang out with those sheer, you know,
Speaker 1: we got really close because once I start talking to someone,
Speaker 1: I'm golden and like, I want to be social. I
Speaker 1: just got to get past that hump at forty two
Speaker 1: years old. It's hard, it's sad. I mean, that was
Speaker 1: the lady at Stargets and I were talking about it.
Speaker 2: She's like, it's just you can talk to someone at Starbucks. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's you know, I was waiting for my chie and
Speaker 2: she's just like, how's your weekend? And I'm like, it's great,
Speaker 2: how's yours. She's like, well, I'm heading to California because
Speaker 2: I got my clients there, and so she moved here
Speaker 2: and she's like trying to find friends. But yeah, oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, I think I met definitely the odd house.
Speaker 1: She was the cutest little dress. I envy that, and
Speaker 1: y'all though I do, ye.
Speaker 2: Run on it. I'm gonna make so Kat and I
Speaker 2: are flying to New York next week. Okay, what are
Speaker 2: you doing? She's going to make her talk to the
Speaker 2: person next to her on the flight. Take video, Take video.
Speaker 2: It happened. I've met so many people on flights. Take video,
Speaker 2: or it never happened. Kramer nick Lache speaking of flights
Speaker 2: details his flight run in with Jessica Simpson twenty years
Speaker 2: after their divorce, so he confirmed too recently cross paths
Speaker 2: with wife ex wife sorry, Jessica Simpson on a flight
Speaker 2: to Hawaii. It was the first time they had seen
Speaker 2: each other in nearly twenty years since their divorce. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: Lache was traveling with his wife and children and Simpson
Speaker 2: with her mom. A strange husband and their children. I
Speaker 2: mean tea years.
Speaker 1: Can I ask a quick question now, did y'all see
Speaker 1: the interview or did you just read the clips? Did
Speaker 1: you see the class the clips? I didn't see an
Speaker 1: interview or whatever you mean with with what's his name?
Speaker 1: And and go was so funny to watch, So I
Speaker 1: didn't watch the whole thing, So give us the Rundown's
Speaker 1: just so funny because I mean, Nick was so respectful, yes,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't really meaning to walk into this, you
Speaker 1: could totally tell.
Speaker 2: But Andy kept asking questions and he was like, as
Speaker 2: he a good interviewer, B and.
Speaker 1: He was like but you could tell there was some
Speaker 1: like hesitancy in him, like responding, you know.
Speaker 2: So that's how he.
Speaker 1: Got exactly his wife well, and he too in every
Speaker 1: the whole situation, because then he got to the point that,
Speaker 1: you know, it gets to that because he was like,
Speaker 1: what about the kids, what about her husband?
Speaker 2: You know or whatever? I don't know if it talks
Speaker 2: about in this article, just says strangely, okay, yes, an
Speaker 2: appropriate response.
Speaker 1: But he kind of kept going and he's like, well,
Speaker 1: who else was there? Was your wife there? He was?
Speaker 1: So then he uncomfortably gets to the point that he's
Speaker 1: not real sure because they were in.
Speaker 2: A different class of service.
Speaker 1: Incredible interviewing it, and he was like trying to be respectful,
Speaker 1: but like he couldn't really fully answer his questions because essentially,
Speaker 1: without saying it, he was in first class with her
Speaker 1: and her mother, but the rest of them were not
Speaker 1: in first class.
Speaker 2: I think her kids because we're in the back. Yes, kids,
Speaker 2: and possibly is a husband ex husband, ex husband. Oh,
Speaker 2: Jesse is in first class with her mom.
Speaker 1: But he and he is asking him questions about like
Speaker 1: the rest of them, and he's like, I don't really know.
Speaker 2: He's like trying to avoid it.
Speaker 1: And he was like because they were, you know, And
Speaker 1: so he finally got to it and he was like, oh,
Speaker 1: so they were sitting in the back.
Speaker 2: It was just it was. It really made me laugh.
Speaker 2: He was very respectful.
Speaker 3: I kept thinking, what would it be like to be
Speaker 3: a flight attendant and see the flight manifest come through
Speaker 3: and be like, oh, Jackpot. I mean, I mean this
Speaker 3: is incredible. I mean a reunion, closed quarters, oxygen masks
Speaker 3: are available, incredible, so good, incredible.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I thought it it was all sweet. It
Speaker 1: was nothing was like malicious or anything. I just thought
Speaker 1: it was really funny.
Speaker 2: It's more wild to me that they haven't seen each
Speaker 2: other in twenty years. What's crazy to me? How they
Speaker 2: haven't seen each other in twenty years? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Do they forgive me for not knowing this? Do they
Speaker 1: live completely different.
Speaker 2: In La? Well? I thought they were. I mean they
Speaker 2: were in Hawaii for a bit for her show. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering.
Speaker 1: In Nashville, So that's probably why I was gonna say.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're like going.
Speaker 2: Clue, that's true, that's true, and she lives but she's
Speaker 2: here all the time. So I mean think about that
Speaker 2: one x for you guys. Would it be weird to
Speaker 2: run into that personally? I know your person I had
Speaker 2: I know years. Was it happened at that restaurant? I
Speaker 2: hadn't been nine Yeah, it had been nine years, nine
Speaker 2: years and it was twenty. You've just been twenty yeah,
Speaker 2: and you never was. What would you do? Like I
Speaker 2: would die? Was local? It's local? No, No, he's not local? Okay,
Speaker 2: but like, would you say anything? I would even know?
Speaker 1: Would you just I don't even know? Finally, probably gosh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Five to ten years ago, not ten
Speaker 1: years ago, five to seven. We finally had like a
Speaker 1: cordial like exchange over email, right, yeah, like over like
Speaker 1: someone had passed away and so but I had seen you.
Speaker 2: Nick, I'm curious, Well, Nick, he doesn't care, but I
Speaker 2: don't remember. Would you care if he reached out to
Speaker 2: an X? Nah? No, not like that.
Speaker 1: He I mean he had he does like she had
Speaker 1: someone in her family, like and I knew that he
Speaker 1: like it's so that doesn't bother me in the least,
Speaker 1: But I can't remember he knows that I've reached out
Speaker 1: through because I mean there have been exchanges where I've
Speaker 1: been like, I'm so sorry that so and so this
Speaker 1: happened like crickets like Reddit not responding to you, like
Speaker 1: still hated me, and big he still hates me.
Speaker 2: So, I mean he doesn't care. But now since that
Speaker 2: was a cordial five percent years, maybe then maybe it
Speaker 2: would be.
Speaker 1: Like had I not gotten that, I would have kept
Speaker 1: on walking. I think, wow, he would have kept on
Speaker 1: walking for sure.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: But now I don't know. But twenty years, I don't
Speaker 1: even know if i'd recognize him. Wow, really, because I
Speaker 1: don't follow him on I mean, i'd recognize them, but
Speaker 1: I don't really follow him on socials anymore.
Speaker 2: At our age, a lot changes in twenty years. So
Speaker 2: twenty years, Yeah, it's wild. So anyway, that's crazy. I
Speaker 2: hadn't really thought about that tone.
Speaker 3: So yeah, well, now you better prepare something small talk,
Speaker 3: you better prepare something.
Speaker 2: Oh, I won't know what to do. I have a
Speaker 2: little speech prepared to do. Pocket Kramer, what would you do?
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys know me. I'd be like, hey,
Speaker 2: uh huh, you know, I mean, yeah, funny thing happened
Speaker 2: on Easter. Actually, oh, we never talked about this.
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm really glad we're bowing back and resurrect it.
Speaker 2: Indeed, goingead, I still don't know what happened. So we
Speaker 2: do this thing where if I don't have the kids,
Speaker 2: and honestly, it's selfishly, I set this up because I
Speaker 2: love to go to church service with my kids on holidays,
Speaker 2: and you know, I've offered on my year when I
Speaker 2: have the kids and he doesn't for him to join
Speaker 2: us for church. So this year it was my Easter
Speaker 2: and was like, hey, we're going to nine o'clock church.
Speaker 2: You're more than welcome to come if you'd like to come, right,
Speaker 2: So he's like, great, awesome, I'll get there early and
Speaker 2: save seats for us. So he saved a seat for
Speaker 2: Alan me and you know himself, right, So then this
Speaker 2: is already golden so which again is really sweet to
Speaker 2: that Alan is you know, he's listen.
Speaker 3: It's amazing of all three of you. Yeah, truly, it
Speaker 3: takes a lot of maturity from all three of you.
Speaker 2: I just know too. On the flip side, like when
Speaker 2: it's his year, he graciously does the same thing too,
Speaker 2: and it's nice to have that time. Absolutely, you know,
Speaker 2: even though the kids aren't with us in the service,
Speaker 2: well for Christmas Eve they are, but for Easter they're
Speaker 2: their little class. But still just to be in the
Speaker 2: same building and do that is amazing. But so it
Speaker 2: was completely packed, right, completely packed. So it was Alan
Speaker 2: me Mike was to my left. There was two seats
Speaker 2: open to his left in walks an X. I knew
Speaker 2: this is where this was going, not saying who I
Speaker 2: knew it, and literally Mike's and Mike and Allan's face.
Speaker 2: I mean it was Mike was like, there's a spot
Speaker 2: rating no, and obviously they saw and they said shook
Speaker 2: heads and where else, you know, Like they didn't shake
Speaker 2: their heads no to us, but like obviously, you know,
Speaker 2: they went somewhere else or whatever. But I would have
Speaker 2: been like, go ahead, don't you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't care, But the look on Mike's face and
Speaker 2: then I know I saw Alan and Mike's like should
Speaker 2: we love them? And I'm like no, Like this is
Speaker 2: so like I'm like and I was like sure, but
Speaker 2: I just like laughed. But but what I honestly loved
Speaker 2: about it was that, well, a I'll always be kind
Speaker 2: to an ex whether you know, no matter what, I'll
Speaker 2: always say hello or smile or whatever. But it was
Speaker 2: that we could sit there and laugh about it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Alan laugh, Me laugh, and Mike laugh. And then also
Speaker 2: to be in the same road together, yeah, was like
Speaker 2: this is beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, beyond that too, I like that everyone knows that's
Speaker 3: an ex because there's a lot of instances where there
Speaker 3: would be exces floating around and no one may even know,
Speaker 3: not you, but like just in general, right, So it's
Speaker 3: kind of just fun to me that everyone is like oop.
Speaker 1: I just know that if I were in that church
Speaker 1: service and I knew who you were and I.
Speaker 2: Saw all those people sitting in the.
Speaker 1: Line, I would have been like firing up literally gold
Speaker 1: little secret picture.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was hysterical. It was really funny though, because
Speaker 2: it was just like his look to me, like.
Speaker 3: Mike, Yeah, Mike would play right into it, he'd love it.
Speaker 2: But it was funny. But I also then just was like,
Speaker 2: this is pretty cool that we can all sit here
Speaker 2: and the maturity and get through the surface together because
Speaker 2: it's like everyone's happy, everyone's doing their own thing, and
Speaker 2: I just love that for everyone, which is why I'd
Speaker 2: be so fine if I ran into anybody. I don't
Speaker 2: think m I'm like, I'm trying to think. I don't
Speaker 2: think there would be anybody that I would run away from.
Speaker 2: I mean, I say hi and run, yeah, but it's
Speaker 2: just so awkward. Throws the starbucks.
Speaker 1: He hated me though, out of that story another day,
Speaker 1: good story.
Speaker 2: We're gonna pin that. If we don't, we'll forget a
Speaker 2: good one to tell. Okay, Lord, twenty year old me.
Speaker 2: I think it's good though. What's good that we're pinning it?
Speaker 2: Then we'll talk about it because I think there'll be
Speaker 2: something that there's a lot from that. I bet I
Speaker 2: know good. I like it. Hey, ladies, I'm thirty two
Speaker 2: and recently got out of a long term relationship of
Speaker 2: six years Eke. The hardest part is that our lives
Speaker 2: were completely intertwined. We share the same friend group, so
Speaker 2: I see him at birthdays, dinners, and even casual hangouts.
Speaker 2: My best friend since college is dating his best friend,
Speaker 2: so it's hard to escape. I want to move on
Speaker 2: and start dating again, but every time I put myself
Speaker 2: out there, I compare new people to him or feel
Speaker 2: guilty like I'm replacing our relationship too quickly. I also
Speaker 2: can't picture how our mutual friends will act if I
Speaker 2: bring someone new around him. Any advice, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, you can't really control everybody else's reaction to it,
Speaker 1: but I think people can surprise you in good ways too.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm kind of negative Nancy sometimes, but
Speaker 3: it is fun when somebody brings a new person around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like remember when we got Alan. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we love when new people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm just saying like, it's like I only
Speaker 3: use that example because before that, it's been forever since
Speaker 3: our friends were like you know, since we've.
Speaker 2: Been trying to think. But like, it's so fun to
Speaker 2: get a new person.
Speaker 3: And I would hope that there is to the earlier
Speaker 3: points of maturity in that too, that like, you know,
Speaker 3: it didn't work out, we can all still be around
Speaker 3: each other. But I know also the quickness feeling of
Speaker 3: like how I be it's just so heavy and so real,
Speaker 3: how I be perceived?
Speaker 2: What would they add on that? Overthinking on that part,
Speaker 2: I totally get. I would be the absolute same way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think we put so much pressure on
Speaker 1: that when other people aren't thinking that deeply into it
Speaker 1: as it just rights.
Speaker 2: I want you to be happy, yeah exactly. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: want you to move on. And now if they don't
Speaker 2: like the guy, that that's the problem us again. Maybe no,
Speaker 2: maybe we will. We will give you a chance.
Speaker 1: Maybe we will give you a chance, But then you've
Speaker 1: got to.
Speaker 3: We're always kind. Yeah, but we also can smell and
Speaker 3: we can smell it. Oh my god, remember that one
Speaker 3: where you're like, no, I mean there was a.
Speaker 2: Couple more specific and then I would just give it
Speaker 2: a game. But I can think about five right now.
Speaker 2: I just had to. I just had to, okay the top. Anyways, Well, guys,
Speaker 2: we're not helpful. She should bring.
Speaker 3: I think it's exciting to bring. Remember that those people
Speaker 3: new friends are fun too, and they want to see
Speaker 3: you happy. And if they don't want to see you happy,
Speaker 3: that's a bigger conversation. They want to see you. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it's just and go.
Speaker 2: You should date.
Speaker 3: Well, you still have your collagen and your high boobs.
Speaker 3: You should be out there living your best life.
Speaker 2: Amen. Bye bye s